<script data-pm-proxy="intercept"></script><?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:googleplay="http://www.google.com/schemas/play-podcasts/1.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[Stop and Think ]]></title><description><![CDATA[A skeptical but not cynical view of scientific evidence ]]></description><link>https://johnmandrola.substack.com</link><image><url>https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GQKD!,w_256,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fjohnmandrola.substack.com%2Fimg%2Fsubstack.png</url><title>Stop and Think </title><link>https://johnmandrola.substack.com</link></image><generator>Substack</generator><lastBuildDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2026 21:49:12 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="/__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><copyright><![CDATA[John Mandrola]]></copyright><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><webMaster><![CDATA[johnmandrola@substack.com]]></webMaster><itunes:owner><itunes:email><![CDATA[johnmandrola@substack.com]]></itunes:email><itunes:name><![CDATA[John Mandrola]]></itunes:name></itunes:owner><itunes:author><![CDATA[John Mandrola]]></itunes:author><googleplay:owner><![CDATA[johnmandrola@substack.com]]></googleplay:owner><googleplay:email><![CDATA[johnmandrola@substack.com]]></googleplay:email><googleplay:author><![CDATA[John Mandrola]]></googleplay:author><itunes:block><![CDATA[Yes]]></itunes:block><item><title><![CDATA[Good Questions that I was Asked at the Cardiology Society of Australia and New Zealand Meeting ]]></title><description><![CDATA[These were the questions and my answers in the fellows session]]></description><link>https://johnmandrola.substack.com/p/good-questions-that-i-was-asked-at</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://johnmandrola.substack.com/p/good-questions-that-i-was-asked-at</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[John Mandrola]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2026 21:14:33 GMT</pubDate><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in Sydney at the CSANZ meeting. Here are questions I was asked yesterday during a session for cardiology fellows: </p><p><em><strong><span data-color="#ff0000" style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">What has cardiology gotten spectacularly right, and spectacularly wrong, over the past 30 years?</span></strong></em></p><p><strong><span>Spectacular: </span></strong><span>The treatment of acute coronary syndrome and MI. Young clinicians may not be able to remember how MI care was transformed with emergency PCI and stents but it is amazing. People with MIs often leave the hospital the next day with only a band-aid on their wrist. The heart and person saved. </span></p><p><span>This has led to fewer cases of heart failure and arrhythmia. I live in a city of million people and rarely do primary prevention defibrillators for ischemic-related cardiomyopathy&#8212;because of all these fixes. </span></p><p><span>The corollary to acute care has also been disease-modifying therapy for CAD. When I started my career, an MI was often followed by another and another. Now, with optimal medical therapy, recurrent events are much lower. Patients with MI usually live long enough to die of something else.</span></p><p><span>Heart failure care has also been transformed with the four classes of HF medicines. What was once a miserable death sentence has been transformed into a livable chronic condition. Of course, the challenge in HF care is using it wisely, because most cases of HF are not in ambulatory males with solid blood pressure, but in older patients with many co-morbidities.</span></p><p><span>Catheter ablation technology has been a spectacular success for every arrhythmia except AF. Ablation renders patients with arrhythmias from focal areas like surgical patients: cured. We still have a huge knowledge deficit in AF pathophysiology. More on that below. </span></p><p><span>In structural interventions, TAVI is nothing short of spectacular. We can extend the quality and quantity of life for many older adults who faced certain death from aortic stenosis&#8212;without open heart surgery.</span></p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://johnmandrola.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Stop and Think  is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p><strong><span>What we have been most wrong about: </span></strong></p><p><span>I am still shocked that percutaneous left atrial appendage closure is so popular. The seminal trials found higher ischemic stroke rates, and no decrease in major bleeding. This is exactly what the most recent CHAMPION AF and CLOSURE AF trials found. Yet 600,000 people have had this device. Our acceptance of this procedure baffles me. And I worry that it has to do with the influence of industry. Patients not able to take oral AC were excluded from the trials, so we are flying blind in these patients. </span></p><p><span>Other than LAAC, I don&#8217;t think we are doing too badly. </span><em><span>Out biggest challenge now is not having something to do for a person but whether we should do it</span></em><span>. Patients in trials represent best-case scenarios. Most of the patients I see are older and sicker and the question is whether we should intervene at all. <br><br>I also worry that the high cost of new interventions create a situation seen in oncology where low value high-cost interventions strain both the patient&#8217;s and society&#8217;s financial resources. Another challenge of modern cardiology: how to provide the bast care to the greatest number of people.</span></p><p><span>One area that I am extremely hopeful in is the GLP1a. Given the high prevalence of cardiometabolic disease in Australia and North America, these drugs could be transformative. Everyone talks about the weight loss, and this is remarkable, but I&#8217;ve seen middle-aged people completely transform their ASCVD risk. I suspect this class of drug may make statins look weak. But I would not put this in the spectacularly correct category yet, because we need more data.</span></p><p><strong><span data-color="#ff0000" style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">How do you recognize genuine innovation instead of hype?</span></strong></p><p><span>This is easy; go look at the KM curves of the old cardiology trials. ACE-I, MRA, and ICD trials show clinically significant and statistically robust signals of mortality benefit. Not benefits in composites of nonfatal outcomes, but mortality.</span></p><p><span>We haven&#8217;t had one of these in a while. But that is ok. Iterative progress in bioengineering has been great. PFA for instance in EP. Valve technology in structural cardiology and GLP1a's in prevention.</span></p><p><span>As for hype, I would encourage everyone to have their eyes open to papers that distract attention from the primary endpoint. </span><a href="/__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/p/how-do-dubious-norms-get-established"><span>RITA-2 i</span></a><span>s the classic paper for this. When the primary endpoint of an experiment is null, you need to be careful about saying much about other endpoints. Don&#8217;t look for bias in the analysis of trials, look for it before the first patient is enrolled. Trial design is where the bodies are. </span></p><p><strong><span data-color="#ff0000" style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">When you read a new trial, what convinces you, or makes you immediately sceptical?</span></strong></p><p><span>Again, convincing are clinically important and statistically robust findings in an important endpoint. You have to have both. </span></p><p><span>Take </span><a href="/__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/p/good-news-also-deserves-attention"><span>DANGER Shock,</span></a><span> the micro-axial flow pump (Impella) in cardiogenic shock trial. You get a 26% reduction in mortality. ARR is a massive 13%. But the p-value is 0.04 and just 1 or 2 endpoints in the different group would render the trial non-significant. So&#8230; I think the trial, which took 10 years to find 360 pts, shows that the micro-axial flow pump probably works in super select group of patients. </span></p><p><span>When I read a paper, I like to start with the purpose of the study. Are the authors trying to answer an important question about a therapy? Or are they simply been hired to sell more product for a company.</span></p><p><span>That said, I don&#8217;t think we can label all industry trials as biased. The TAVI trials are exemplary, for instance. Medtronic ran a 7000-patient trial called WRAP IT to test whether their ABX pouch reduced infection. It did. And it was a clean trial. </span></p><p><strong><span data-color="#ff0000" style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">You&#8217;ve changed your mind publicly over the years. This can be a difficult thing to do. How should emerging cardiologists learn to change theirs?</span></strong></p><p><span>If you haven&#8217;t changed your thinking a number of times, you aren&#8217;t thinking enough. Change in Medicine is normal. The thing about training is that you don&#8217;t know what you don&#8217;t know, not because you are not smart, but because change is such a constant.</span></p><p><span>For instance, when I trained at Indiana University in the 1990s, the three procedures that I do most often today had not even been thought of yet. BiV and conduction system pacing as well as AF ablation had yet to be discovered.</span></p><p><span>I actually love changing my mind. It&#8217;s one of the joys of this job.</span></p><p><strong><span data-color="#ff0000" style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">Imagine you&#8217;re back at CSANZ in 2046 speaking to today&#8217;s fellows, now consultants. What do you think they&#8217;ll look back on and say &#8220;What were we thinking?</span></strong></p><p><span>Whenever I finish an AF ablation and go talk to the patient, they want to know if their AF is gone. Yet all we do is isolate PVs. A robot could do it. It&#8217;s mindless. Sometimes it works, but we don&#8217;t know when it will. Future doctors will surely think we were idiots when it came to AF ablative therapy.</span></p><p><span>I also hope the thinking on LAAC changes. It&#8217;s sort of changing now, but surely future doctors will be shocked that we did this in the face of all the contrary evidence.</span></p><p><span>Interventional therapy for acute MI and stroke will hold up, but I think preventive therapy will further erode the need for revascularization in chronic CAD. I would not be surprised if left main disease is treated medically in 20 years.</span></p><p><span>I give it at least a 25% chance that the combination of imaging and AI will improve targeted revascularization and future doctors will think it silly that we decide on placing a stent by how ugly a lesion looks on an angiogram. </span></p><p><strong><span data-color="#ff0000" style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">Is there one landmark trial that has most shaped the way you think about evidence, and what did it teach you?</span></strong></p><p><a href="/__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/p/why-is-evidence-so-important"><span>CAST </span></a><span>&#8211; should be taught in all medical schools. It&#8217;s the most important trial not just in cardiology but all of medicine.</span></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://johnmandrola.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Evidence is what separates doctors from palm readers but there are caveats ]]></title><description><![CDATA[Andrew Foy had an important post last week over at Sensible Medicine. He told the story of spironolactone in heart failure.]]></description><link>https://johnmandrola.substack.com/p/evidence-is-what-separates-doctors</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://johnmandrola.substack.com/p/evidence-is-what-separates-doctors</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[John Mandrola]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2026 13:17:57 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6kxv!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5569e975-3278-41d4-bd60-a721a1b63b30_1760x1038.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="/__u/andrewjfoy.substack.com/">Andrew Foy</a> had an important <a href="https://www.sensible-med.com/p/a-cautionary-tale-of-clinical-mistranslation">post last week over at Sensible Medicine.</a> He told the story of spironolactone in heart failure. I often cite the <a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199909023411001">RALES</a> trial of spironolactone vs placebo as one cardiology&#8217;s biggest effect sizes. The absolute reduction in <em>death</em> was a whopping 11%. The inexpensive mild diuretic had an NNT to save a life of just 9. </p><p>Yet spironolactone is not an easy drug to use. You have to get labs after starting it because it can cause high potassium levels, especially in patients with impaired kidney function or those taking ACE-I or ARB drugs. Both of these are common in patients with HF. In fact, whenever I write for spironolactone the EMR gives me a drug-drug interaction alert. </p><p>Foy smartly cited an <a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa040135">observational study</a> from Ontario published soon after RALES that showed that spironolactone use increased after RALES but so did potassium related complications. Crucially, the Canadian authors found no evidence that the extra spironolactone reduced heart failure hospitalizations. </p><p>Vinay wrote an <a href="https://www.sensible-med.com/p/andrew-foy-says-there-is-efficacy">adjoiner</a> calling this an efficacy-effectiveness gap. Here is a slide I often show to learners. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6kxv!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5569e975-3278-41d4-bd60-a721a1b63b30_1760x1038.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6kxv!, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/w_424, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5569e975-3278-41d4-bd60-a721a1b63b30_1760x1038.png 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6kxv!, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/w_848, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/c_limit, 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8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Trials, it turns out, are the best way to test whether an intervention works (efficacy) but the worst way to assess who will benefit from it (effectiveness). </p><p>Foy and Vinay both point out that trials do two things that are not done in the real world: a) they select patients in whom the intervention has the best chance to work and b) trial procedures provide hypervigilant protection of patients. </p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://johnmandrola.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Stop and Think  is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p>Vinay points out that oncology trials recruit patients with good functional status and strong family support. I can vouch for this firsthand. We are a recruiting center in the <a href="https://orit.research.bcm.edu/leftvsleft/index.html">Left vs Left trial </a>of conduction system pacing vs biventricular pacing in patients with an indication for cardiac resynchronization therapy. Basically two ways to achieve CRT. Trial inclusion and exclusion criteria are strict, but that&#8217;s rarely the barrier. The barriers are whether the patient has the support, strength, cognitive ability or desire to participate in the trial. We exclude many patients because the trial won&#8217;t work for them. </p><p>Recruiting the best patients is one thing, but trial procedures are equally important. In RALES, for instance, Foy tells us that patients had numerous lab checks; many more than is routinely done or feasible in regular practice. He doesn&#8217;t say this but you should know that being in a trial is wonderful because not only do you have doctors but you also have an uber-detail-oriented research nurse who makes sure nothing falls through the cracks. Research nurses are like healthcare guardian angels. There are no research nurses in regular practice.</p><p>RALES is not an outlier when it comes to extraordinary procedures. The seminal beta-blocker trials that established these drugs in the post-MI setting had incredibly unrealistic monitoring. Read about the monitoring in the 1<a href="/__u/cardiologytrials.substack.com/p/review-of-the-beta-blocker-heart">982 BHAT trial over at Cardiology Trials substack. </a></p><p>Nothing about selection of patients or trial procedures are nefarious. Rather it is an attempt to enhance <em>efficacy</em>. Does the drug or procedure work in this ideal environment?</p><p>Our job as clinicians is to figure out whether benefits seen in the trial environment can be duplicated in the patient in front of us. Clinicians need to focus on <em>effectiveness</em>. </p><p>Foy has some great rules: </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7Txb!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcfc6e562-9bd3-4fd5-a456-d0db9486a301_1516x1150.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7Txb!, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/w_424, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcfc6e562-9bd3-4fd5-a456-d0db9486a301_1516x1150.png 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7Txb!, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/w_848, 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They should be taught in every medical school and residency program. </p><p>Here is the problem though: doctors who apply these rules will use less of the anointed therapies. They face the tension of EBM enthusiasts who push things like &#8220;guideline directed medical therapy,&#8221; which sounds great in practice but can create mischief for many patients. </p><p>When I discharge a 90-year-old with a walker with tennis balls on it and severe kidney disease, the EMR tells me I am not using proper GDMT of her chronic HF. The average age of patients in the HF trials&#8212;mid 60s. </p><p>How or why, you wonder, could following GDMT become a tension or problem? </p><p>No field is more emblematic of the tension between Foy&#8217;s rules and guideline-mandated care than the treatment of patients with heart failure. The seminal trials of heart failure drugs were performed sequentially. ACE-I were first; then the beta-blocker trials tested adding on beta-blockers. In RALES, patients were on ACE-I and spironolactone was tested as an add-on. In the SGLT2i trials, patients were on the three drug classes. All of this was sequential. Most were done in stable ambulatory outpatients. </p><p>But now there is a strong push to start all these drugs at once and early, often in the hospital. Proponents cite observational studies showing that patients started on four drug classes right away do better. But these studies are flawed by huge doses of selection bias; of course a patient who can tolerate 4 new pills is more robust than those in whom a doctor would never attempt such an aggressive move. </p><p>Vinay rightly points out that a proper trial would test the theory that rapid sudden initiation of 4 drugs is superior to a sequential slow approach. This is the best way forward. </p><p>HF leaders worry that not starting drugs early and all at once risks undertreatment. This is a reasonable concern as inertia is clearly a barrier to the best medical care. I have seen both. </p><p>Yet I favor Foy&#8217;s approach. </p><p>Use of medical evidence is absolutely necessary. Otherwise we are like palm readers. </p><p>But efficacy in a trial is a lot different than effectiveness in the real world. The best doctors understand this. They are the doctors who I would want to care for me. </p><p>But they may not be the doctors with the best EBM scorecard. </p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://johnmandrola.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Body Scanning and Philosophy ]]></title><description><![CDATA[The Midjourney promise of body ultrasound, like the total body MRI body imagers, suffer the same problem--and it isn't technical, it's philosophical]]></description><link>https://johnmandrola.substack.com/p/body-scanning-and-philosophy</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://johnmandrola.substack.com/p/body-scanning-and-philosophy</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[John Mandrola]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2026 12:14:33 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!m1I-!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F__ss-rehost__tw-video-preview-13_2071991287738511360.jpg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Journalist Christina Farr hosted this interview/podcast with three doctors regarding the idea of preventive total body imaging to extend life. It&#8217;s a good discussion. My friend Venk Murthy particularly excels. </p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/chrissyfarr/status/2071994162606657732?s=20&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;Midjourney built a body scanner. Here's what three doctors actually think about it.\n\nNew episode of Lifers with <span class=\&quot;tweet-fake-link\&quot;>@venkmurthy</span>, <span class=\&quot;tweet-fake-link\&quot;>@psufka</span>, and <span class=\&quot;tweet-fake-link\&quot;>@DrDeepMD</span>.\n\nTimestamps:\n(00:00) Lead In\n(00:46) Intro\n(02:17) Whole body MRI basics\n(03:11) Incidental findings trap\n(05:52) Can AI fix &quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;chrissyfarr&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Christina Farr&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1932929345577689088/UR-OTIfm_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-06-30T16:27:58.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[{&quot;img_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!m1I-!,w_1028,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best,fl_progressive:steep/l_play_button_usfui2,w_88,e_colorize:0/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F__ss-rehost__tw-video-preview-13_2071991287738511360.jpg&quot;,&quot;link_url&quot;:&quot;https://t.co/ms5Gf3neaB&quot;}],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{},&quot;reply_count&quot;:4,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:4,&quot;like_count&quot;:22,&quot;impression_count&quot;:7681,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:&quot;https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/2071991287738511360/vid/avc1/1280x720/fNNj1Nz1ugEGJqEV.mp4&quot;,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><p>The concept is enticing: many diseases (heart and cancer, primarily) lie dormant before causing death. A scan could find these early, at a stage where surgery or medicine could cure. Doing this would extend life. </p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://johnmandrola.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Stop and Think  is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p>Even some doctors are fooled, saying they went into medicine to prevent disease not just throw pills at diseases that could be cured if caught earlier. </p><p>Of course, anyone who is tempted to fall for this folly fails basic numerical literacy. </p><p>That is, if a disease has a 1% prevalence (and many of the diseases found on these scans have an even lower incidence) and a test is 90% sensitive and 90% specific most of the &#8220;positives&#8221; are false positives. </p><p>To review the calculation. It&#8217;s disease prevalence multiplied by the likelihood ratio (sensitivity/1-specificity) equals the after test probability. </p><p>1% x [.9/.1] = 9%. Meaning that if 100 people have a positive scan, 9 will be a true positive and 91 will be false positive.</p><p>We learn this basic stuff in medical school then it is promptly forgotten. It&#8217;s why mammography has such a hard time reducing breast cancer outcomes. The inherent problem is looking for low incidence conditions. Even a good test (90% sensitive and specific) produces more false positives than true positives when disease prevalence is low. </p><p>Every doctor can tell you horror stories of false positives. The person who has a coronary calcium scan and is found to have a lung nodule&#8212;who nearly dies during the biopsy procedure of the non-cancerous nodule, for instance. </p><p>But this self-evident medical fact is not the biggest problem with these total body scans. Let me show you two more. </p><p>First, in the opening paragraph of the <a href="https://bradtaylor.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/death-of-humane-medicine.pdf">Death of Humane Medicine</a>, the late Dr. Petr Skrabanek laid out the biggest problem with this idea: </p><blockquote><p><em>Health, like love, beauty or happiness, is a metaphysical concept, which eludes all attempts at objectivisation. Healthy people do not think of health, unless they are hypochondriacs, which, strictly speaking, is not a sign of health. Similarly, when our organs perform their functions perfectly, we are not aware of them. It is the absence of health that gives rise to dreaming about health, just as the real meaning of freedom is only experienced in prison. </em></p><p><em>The pursuit of health is a symptom of unhealth.</em></p></blockquote><p>Healthy people do not think of health. The pursuit of heath is a symptom of unhealth. As I age, fewer ideas ring truer. </p><p>For the second problem, I cite the great book <a href="https://www.amazon.com/s?k=conflict+of+visions&amp;hvadid=792731889359&amp;hvdev=c&amp;hvexpln=67&amp;hvlocphy=9220800&amp;hvnetw=g&amp;hvocijid=1741133939929377877--&amp;hvqmt=e&amp;hvrand=1741133939929377877&amp;hvtargid=kwd-301085646209&amp;hydadcr=4547_13551749&amp;mcid=a84ac8501eca33a9a7065592911c3d09&amp;tag=googhydr-20&amp;ref=pd_sl_5gclphnwo_e_p67">Conflict of Visions</a> by Thomas Sowell. </p><p>The <strong>unconstrained</strong> vision holds that there are ideal solutions to every problem and that compromise is never acceptable. Just tweak human nature enough and you can fix all that ails society. </p><p>The <strong>constrained </strong>vision holds that human nature has never changed, cannot be modified and, here, compromise is essential because there are no ideal solutions, only trade offs. Constrained thinkers favor evidence to sort out these tradeoffs. </p><p>Now apply that frame to medicine.</p><p><span>Unconstrained thinkers dominate medicine. More is better. We can solve human disease. We just need to do more tests, give more drugs, keep innovating. Everything is modifiable. Of course, there is profit in being an unconstrained thinker. </span></p><p><span>The concept of total body scanning is unconstrained thinking raised to exponential levels. </span></p><p><span>I am a constrained vision person. I am shocked more doctors are not this way. It&#8217;s as if we ignore what we see everyday. We see patients survive an MI only to die a year later with pancreatic cancer; we see thousands of diseases affect our patients. </span></p><p><span>The idea that a scan or search from one disease could save you belies any sense of health and disease. </span></p><p><span>Religious people say people die when God calls them. I am not that religious but I am absolutely convinced that we die when it is our time. And it is only modifiable on the margins. </span></p><p><span>You wear a seatbelt (low harm) and do not ignore a bump in your armpit or new symptoms. You do basic things, mostly pay attention. I&#8217;ve seen cyclists call their new breathlessness asthma when it was an LAD lesion that could have been fixed before causing cardiac arrest. These are the &#8220;evidence&#8221; parts in the constrained vision. </span></p><p><span>Short of paying attention, the wealth of diseases that could kill you are hardly worth chasing. Better to healthily not pursue health. </span></p><p><span>Finally, the corollary of this philosophy pertains to doctoring: yes, doctors are supposed to treat the sick. Our job is to help people who are asking for our help. Prevention is best left to a person&#8217;s smart choices and good luck. </span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://johnmandrola.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Stop and Think  is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Just Another Summer Update ]]></title><description><![CDATA[Many new powerpoints and my search for fitness]]></description><link>https://johnmandrola.substack.com/p/just-another-summer-update</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://johnmandrola.substack.com/p/just-another-summer-update</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[John Mandrola]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2026 12:31:41 GMT</pubDate><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The popular economist Tyler Cowen advises that in the era of AI, writing has decreased in value. Increased in value are things that AI cannot do: be with people in person. I&#8217;ve done a lot of that recently, not so much because TC recommends it, rather, I can&#8217;t seem to say no to invitations to speak. </p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://johnmandrola.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Stop and Think  is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p><strong>January. London. At the British Cardiovascular Intervention Society (BCIS) </strong>Professor David Hildick Smith assigned my lecture as <em>&#8220;The 3 worst interventional trials that changed practice nonetheless.&#8221; </em>My choices were <a href="https://www.sensible-med.com/p/fame-2-one-of-cardiologys-most-influential">FAME-2</a>, <a href="https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/989105">TRILUMINATE</a> and <a href="https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/early-tavr-positive-trial-fails-inform-clinical-decisions-2024a1000kec">EARLY TAVR</a>. Notable at this meeting was that my bridge fell off, and I got a central London dentist to glue it back on&#8212;for &#163;250. And I saw a fox while running in Hyde Park. </p><p><strong>March. New Orleans. ACC. </strong> I particapated in one panel discussion, but mainly I was there as a columnist for Medscape. I wrote 5 articles: a <a href="https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/mandrolas-top-4-trials-acc-2026-details-matter-2026a10008ti">preview column</a>, <a href="https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/six-reasons-why-champion-af-should-not-change-practice-2026a10009i7">CHAMPION AF</a>, <a href="https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/adoption-before-evidence-chip-bcis3-humbles-impella-2026a10009jh">CHIP BCIS</a>, <a href="http://Does Ez-PAVE Support &#8216;Lower Is Better&#8217; for LDL-C?">EZ-PAVE</a>, and <a href="https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/pulsed-field-ablation-af-disappoints-setup-success-avant-2026a1000ddt">AVANT GUARD.</a> </p><p><strong>April. Paris. European Heart Rhythm Association.</strong> My talk was <strong>&#8220;</strong><em>Common Statistical Biases and Misleading Presentations in Cardiology Trials.&#8221;</em> The best part of this meeting was seeing old friends, from Germany, Poland, Martinique and Romania. </p><p><strong>April. Chicago. Heart Rhythm Society. </strong>My talk was the con part of a debate: <em>&#8220;Athletes with AF with a Moderate Stroke Risk Should NOT Be Offered LAAO&#8212;A Four-Pronged Argument.&#8221;</em>  I also recorded a <a href="https://www.hrsonline.org/resource/the-lead-episode-156-a-discussion-of-the-association-between-atrial-fibrillation-burden-and-quality-of-life-a-substudy-of-the-sham-pvi-trial/">podcast </a>with colleague and friend Dr Nassir Marrouche on the Sham-PVI trial. The host Christopher Kowalewski, MD did an amazing job. Sadly, HRS has become way too industry dominated.</p><p><strong>May. Hartford CT.</strong> The <a href="https://www.trinityhealthofne.org/location/the-hoffman-heart-and-vascular-institute/jeresaty-symposium">Jeresaty Symposium</a> is supposedly the oldest CV symposium in the US. My talk was titled <em>&#8220;Anticoagulation in the Era of Left Atrial Occlusion Devices.&#8221;</em> I accepted this invitation because I rotated at St Francis hospital in internal medicine as a 3rd year medical student at UCONN in 1991. It was a thrill going back home. I had dinner with my Dad and brother&#8212;who lives in Suffield CT, a beautiful New England town, which has as its main downside that it is hard to get to. </p><p><strong>May. Nyborg Denmark. </strong>I gave the opening lecture at the annual meeting of the <strong>Danish Cardiac Society.</strong> &#8230; <em>&#8220;Interpretation of Evidence in a Healthcare System Under Pressure  Prioritization and Clinical Judgment.&#8221; </em>I had the pleasure of getting in two huge bike rides (107km and 75km), one to the north tip of central DK, and the other to the southern end. The rides are etched into my memory not least because of the amazing scenery and pristine roads, but also because both times my ride partner (different guys) pulled the entire time. EVERY SINGLE TIME I have ridden in Northern Europe, my colleagues have put me into the pain cave. </p><p><strong>June. Berlin Germany.</strong> At the <a href="https://www.dhzb-akademie.de/en/course/berlin-atrial-fibrillation-2026-2/">Berlin AF meeting</a> I led a journal club wherein three EP fellows presented the FLECA-ED, CHAMPION AF and AVANT GUARD trials. It was a fun session. Two highlights: one of the hosts of the meeting, Professor Gerd Hindricks, who is one of the most famous electrophysiologists in Europe, greets me with an old fashioned hug. He is such a nice man. And Berlin is a running city. The Tiergarten forest may be the <a href="https://www.strava.com/activities/18807398901">best city run</a> I have ever done. </p><p><strong>June. London UK.</strong> It was my second trip to the <a href="https://londonarrhythmiasummit.com/'">London Arrhythmia Summit.</a> This year my keynote lecture was titled &#8220;<em>Signal or Noise? What the AF Evidence Explosion Actually Changes in Practice.&#8221;</em> I spoke about how AF clinic has changed dramatically in the last 3-5 years, based on&#8230;wait for it&#8230;new trials. I also debated Professor Tim Betts on left atrial appendage closure. It&#8217;s curious; in cost constrained health systems, wherein the government pays, my argument against LAA closure usually wins. A show of hands confirmed I won the debate. </p><div><hr></div><p>I remain a full-time electrophysiologist in Louisville. Most of these trips use the weekend as much as possible to reduce time away from clinic and lab. </p><p>Many doctors my age (62 years) contemplate retirement. I am the opposite. I feel good; not 40 years old good, but pretty darn good. At 40, my functional threshold power on the bike was about 315 watts. Today it is about 275 watts. </p><p>As many of you know, I remain skeptical of all new technology. And that remains, but with one big caveat. Medtronic&#8217;s version of PFA ablation with their dual lattice tip catheter (capable of both RF and PFA) has been our workhorse. No conflicts of interest to report. AF ablation has been radically transformed lately. It&#8217;s changed the calculus of when to offer the procedure vs other therapies. </p><div><hr></div><p>We are also using novel pacing techniques. My partner and I were relatively early adopters of conduction system pacing, which is an elegant way to achieve cardiac pacing WITHOUT creating RV-LV dyssynchrony. </p><p>Finally, bioengineers have gifted us a pacemaker that looks like a small bullet and has no leads. It&#8217;s all contained in the heart. No incision. Leadless pacing is a niche device that has helped patients with specific situations. </p><div><hr></div><p>On doctoring. Since my time doing this job is decreasing, I seem to enjoy it more than ever. I have this phrase that I like to say out loud: &#8220;we help people.&#8221; </p><p>It&#8217;s almost too simple to think about it, but helping people is what gives the job meaning. And a job with meaning is the best antidote for burnout. </p><div><hr></div><p>The other reason not to retire yet is our team. My first slide in these lectures is a picture of our hospital. It&#8217;s a small, non-academic place located in a medium sized city. But inside that hospital is our great team of people who I respect immensely. My partners, our APRN&#8217;s, PA&#8217;s and medical assistants all get along well. It&#8217;s such a nice work family. </p><div><hr></div><p><strong>You can read or listen to my work in a few places: </strong></p><p>At <em>TheHeart.org on Medscape</em> as a <a href="https://www.medscape.com/index/section_10325_0">columnist.</a> </p><p>The <em>This Week in Cardiology Podcast</em>. The transcript is on <a href="https://www.medscape.com/index/list_10295_0">Medscape</a>. ITunes<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/this-week-in-cardiology/id991125169"> link</a>. Spotify <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/5l6Umho5EXfIr39MIIkUC6">link.</a> I try to give the week&#8217;s study a fair analysis. Every Friday. </p><p>I write the Study of the Week (Monday) on the <a href="https://www.sensible-med.com/">Sensible Medicine </a>substack. I am also one of the three editors of that substack. SM is doing well. It&#8217;s a joy to publish non-industry-conflicted content. Sensible Medicine also hosts a <a href="https://www.sensible-med.com/p/this-fortnight-in-medicine-xxviii">Fortnight in Medicine Podcast</a>, which I participate in. We are happy to welcome our friend Vinay Prasad back after his sabbatical. </p><p>And of course, you can follow my feed on X <a href="https://x.com/drjohnm">@DrJohnM </a></p><div><hr></div><p>Thanks for your support. JMM </p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://johnmandrola.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Industry vs Non-Industry Funding for Science ]]></title><description><![CDATA[Some thoughts on the role of funding of medical science]]></description><link>https://johnmandrola.substack.com/p/industry-vs-non-industry-funding</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://johnmandrola.substack.com/p/industry-vs-non-industry-funding</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[John Mandrola]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2026 12:52:43 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!S2Eb!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb917e533-8540-42a9-8b6b-3f6903fc4bf4_1158x562.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look at this recent <a href="https://x.com/hollymorgs/status/2023662127207141569/quotes">post</a> on X: </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!S2Eb!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb917e533-8540-42a9-8b6b-3f6903fc4bf4_1158x562.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!S2Eb!, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/w_424, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/f_webp, 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8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Dr Holly Morgan is cardiologist and researcher in the UK and was an author on one of the best cardiology trials of our time&#8212;the <a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2206606">REVIVED BCIS2</a> trial. </p><p>Dr Sunil Rao is a cardiologist and researcher who has published many important trials in cardiology, both industry and government funded. </p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://johnmandrola.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Stop and Think  is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p>Today we address the tension in the two types of science funding. </p><p>Dr. Morgan commented on my lecture at the recent BCIS meeting in London. It was not my idea to speak on &#8220;<em>the three worst interventional cardiology trials that changed practice nonetheless.&#8221;</em> I could have easily and happily spoke on the three best interventional trials; but this was not my assignment. </p><p>My choice for the three worst trials in interventional cardiology were: <a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1205361">FAME-2</a>, <a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2300525">TRILUMINATE</a>, and <a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2405880">EARLY TAVR</a>. </p><p>FAME-2 established the use of physiologic measures of coronary stenoses. TRILUMINATE created enthusiasm for clipping tricuspid valves to reduce leakiness. EARLY TAVR tempted cardiologists to change the rule that we wait for patients with aortic stenosis to have symptoms before operating on the valve. </p><p>All three of these trials were industry supported. All three were designed to be positive before the first patient was enrolled. </p><p>And therein lies the core problem between industry and non-industry funded trials: <strong>industry funds trials to sell products. </strong></p><p>Dr Rao is exactly right in his post on X. This does not necessarily mean industry-funded science equals bad science. In many cases (ICD, primary stenting for MI, statins, most HF meds), the confluences of interest between profit and societal benefit align. And industry-funded science leads to huge advances. </p><p>But. But. Profit and societal gain are not always aligned. In my opinion, profit takes precedence in industry-funded science. This is a problem because in the ideal world of medical science, experimenting with human subjects should only be to answer an important question. </p><p>There is some empirical evidence that I am correct. 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8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>In my lecture in London, I spell out how trial design guaranteed positive results of the three trials.  </p><p>One glaring example was in the TRILUMINATE trial of tricuspid valve clipping vs meds in patients with severe tricuspid valve regurgitation. One group got an invasive procedure with the clipping tool and one group got only meds. Patients knew their treatment. Imagine being in the meds group. Your brain thinks&#8230;crap I didn&#8217;t get the best option. </p><p>The primary endpoint included hard endpoints like death and heart failure and soft endpoints like a quality of life questionnaire. The results favored the invasive procedure but only on subjective quality of life measures. This design, of course, fails high school science because it ignores the placebo effect. </p><p>What bothers me most is that EVERYONE involved in TRILUMINATE knew this and went ahead with the trial anyways. It so happens that tricuspid valve regurgitation is super common. So the gain to the company that makes the clipping tools and the doctors who do the procedure are enormous. </p><p>The easy solution would have been to have a sham arm where one group had a placebo procedure. As a potential patient some day, this is the trial I would want. Because I believe there probably are a select few people with severe valve disease who would benefit. But with a biased trial, we will never know. </p><p>Non-industry funded trials, on the other hand, are far more likely to be done to answer a question.  </p><p>Dr Morgan&#8217;s REVIVED BCIS2 trial, for instance, studied hard outcomes in two strategies (stents or meds) for treating patients with severe coronary disease and left ventricular dysfunction. Most of us believed these patients should have their blockages stented to improve blood flow to weak heart muscle. Yet the cardiology community was surprised, no shocked, that simple medicines performed as well. </p><p><strong>The Solution for You and I</strong></p><p>If we lived in an ideal world, all trials of new therapies would be conducted by independent research teams. That&#8217;s unlikely to ever happen. </p><p>So, I would propose the following specific approaches: </p><ul><li><p>Start the evaluation of a trial with an open mind. You know industry exists to make a profit. This is normal. It does not (always) equate to a biased trial. </p></li><li><p>Evaluate the trial design and procedures in a neutral manner. In the seminal ICD trials, one group got an ICD and the other group did not. In the end, they measured the number of people who died. That&#8217;s mostly free of bias. The trials were positive and led to increased use of the ICD. Since it saved lives, both industry and society won. </p></li><li><p>After looking at the design and procedures of a trial, consider the authors&#8217; conclusion. Did they stay true to the primary endpoint? Or did they employ spin&#8212;distraction from null results on the primary endpoint. <a href="/__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/p/expertise-is-over-rated?utm_source=publication-search">RITA 2 </a>was the whopper of all examples of spin. </p></li></ul><p>The more global general approach is: </p><p>To become better consumers of medical science. This is the goal of Stop and Think. It is the goal of <a href="https://www.sensible-med.com/">Sensible Medicine</a>. And the <a href="https://www.medscape.com/index/list_10295_0">This Week in Cardiology</a> podcast. </p><p>I did 8 procedures yesterday. All of them were easier and more likely to help patients than procedures I did 10 years ago. Industry innovation is largely responsible for these advances. So industry is not bad. We want industry to innovate; profits are not an enemy of medical science. </p><p>Yet we are Bayesians. Profit motive is a prior we must consider in the evaluation of a trial. But the prior is only a prior; the main question is the nuts of the bolts of the actual trial. </p><p>Appraisal of evidence is not a speciality. Not being bamboozled is one of the main jobs of the modern clinician. It is a lifelong pursuit. </p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://johnmandrola.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Some Year End Things and A Pro-Tip ]]></title><description><![CDATA[Here&#8217;s another update of things I&#8217;ve worked on.]]></description><link>https://johnmandrola.substack.com/p/some-year-end-things-and-a-pro-tip</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://johnmandrola.substack.com/p/some-year-end-things-and-a-pro-tip</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[John Mandrola]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2025 13:12:13 GMT</pubDate><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s another update of things I&#8217;ve worked on. </p><p>My year end <a href="https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/mandrolas-top-10-cardiovascular-stories-2025-2025a1000yuh">review of top cardiovascular stories</a> is up over at TheHeart.org | Medscape Cardiology. We learnt quite a bit in 2025. </p><ul><li><p>Two trials suggested less-is-more when it comes to combining anticoagulants and antiplatelet drugs when patients have chronic coronary disease and AF. </p></li><li><p>Beta-blockers used routinely after uncomplicated myocardial infarction is now completely reversed as multiple trials showed little to no benefit. </p></li><li><p>Asymptomatic carotid vascular disease in the US was often treated with surgery. The CREST 2 trial showed this practice was inferior to simple medical therapy. </p></li><li><p>The mantra in severe aortic stenosis was no intervention into symptoms. Key opinion leaders aim to change that; but their data is weak. </p></li><li><p>Radiofrequency energy in the kidneys to treat hypertension is set to be let loose to the profit-makers. Renal denervation is so bad it may make left atrial appendage closure look like a good deal. </p></li><li><p>One of my favorite stories was the failure of cerebral protection during TAVI procedures. How does a device that catches debris-heading-to-the-brain not reduce stroke? </p></li><li><p>I&#8217;ve watched my colleagues in AF ablation promise game-changing approaches for two decades. None really worked. Until now. Pulse field ablation is incredible. There is no going back to thermal ablation. </p></li><li><p>The German-led Closure AF trial showed inferiority of left atrial appendage closure compare to simple anticoagulation. The results aren&#8217;t published yet, but this shocked the proponents&#8212;who have largely remained silent. </p></li><li><p>I have always said TAVI is an amazing procedure. The question is whether low surgical risk patients should have TAVI or open heart surgical valve replacement. Five to seven year data came out in 2025 and TAVI looks pretty darn close to surgery. We await ten-year outcomes; I predict surgery will look better over time. </p></li><li><p>This year saw one of the goofiest change-in-endpoints I&#8217;ve ever seen. The FAME-3 trial found that bypass surgery beat stenting in its primary analysis. But after the loss, the authors changed the endpoint to one more favorable to stents. And. Voila. Now the two therapies look similar. Trigger warning: this cannot be unseen. </p></li><li><p>We also had two trials looking at stopping oral anticoagulants after successful AF ablation. Both trials were underpowered to tell any difference. But they were underpowered because stroke rates were so (awesomely) low. Which is an important knowledge pont. </p></li></ul><div><hr></div><p></p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://johnmandrola.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Stop and Think  is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p>Last Friday was the year&#8217;s last <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/this-week-in-cardiology/id991125169">This Week in Cardiology podcast</a>. I discussed how difficult it is to predict cardiac events, a trial with a really crazy endpoint, tirzepatide&#8217;s dominance over dulaglutide in diabetes, and the sorry saga of andexanet alfa&#8212;a reversal agent Factor Xa inhibitors , which was pulled off the market this year. </p><p>I also wrote about the mistakes made with andexanet alfa on Sensible Medicine&#8217;s <a href="https://www.sensible-med.com/p/the-embarrassing-but-necessary-lesson">Study of the Week. </a>There are important lessons in critical appraisal. </p><p>Speaking of <a href="https://www.sensible-med.com/">Sensible Medicine,</a> Adam and I love the project. We miss Vinay, but he&#8217;s doing important work at FDA. It&#8217;s hard for me to believe that every post we send goes off to 103K subscribers. We are also excited to have <a href="/__u/andrewjfoy.substack.com/">Andrew Foy</a> join us on our <a href="https://www.sensible-med.com/p/this-fortnight-in-medicine-xi-461">Fortnight</a> podcasts. Andrew is one of the best thinkers in all of Medicine. </p><h4><strong>The Pro Tip</strong></h4><p>For cardiology learners or purists, please do look at our <a href="/__u/cardiologytrials.substack.com/">Cardiology Trials Substack</a>. This is a project I work on with Drs. Andrew Foy, Muhammed Ruzieh. The idea is to write summaries of every seminal trial in cardiology. A place to go to read why we do the things we do. It&#8217;s a work in progress. </p><p>Ruzieh recently added a bonus: <a href="/__u/cardiologytrials.substack.com/p/how-to-read-a-randomized-trial-part">How To Read a Cardiology Trial.</a> This is such an excellent piece. </p><div><hr></div><p>December is a our busiest month in the hospital. It&#8217;s weird; this is my 29th year at Baptist Health Louisville. And I enjoy it now more than I ever have. </p><p>Specifically, PFA has transformed AF ablation and conduction system pacing makes the most beautiful ECGs. Generally, though, the work of helping people feels even better than it always has. I really do love it. We get paid to help people. That is nice. </p><p>Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. And thanks for reading my stuff. </p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://johnmandrola.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[What I believe in Medicine ]]></title><description><![CDATA[Dr.]]></description><link>https://johnmandrola.substack.com/p/what-i-believe-in-medicine</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://johnmandrola.substack.com/p/what-i-believe-in-medicine</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[John Mandrola]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2025 16:05:51 GMT</pubDate><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Bryan Vartabedian has a great post on<a href="/__u/33charts.substack.com/p/what-i-believe-about-medicine"> 75 things he believes about medicine</a>. Do read it. There are many gems. Bryan and I started our careers at about the same time. </p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://johnmandrola.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Stop and Think  is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p>Here are 45 things I believe:  </p><ol><li><p>I tell patients that <em>I will help</em> them. Even when you can&#8217;t cure, you can care. And that helps. (I learned this from Jerry Lacy, one of the best doctors I ever knew.) </p></li><li><p>When in doubt, take a good history, preferably sitting down with family in the room. Always sit down. </p></li><li><p>Never be overconfident. Go slow; be present. Mistakes happen most when you are too confident. </p></li><li><p>Re mistakes: they will happen, and you will regret them most when the procedure could have been avoided with a conservative approach. Think about this regret when recommending procedures. </p></li><li><p>Re, Re, mistakes: discuss them with colleagues. I like to tell stories of the dumbest things I ever did in medicine. There are many. </p></li><li><p>Resist the urge to do more when less is enough. </p></li><li><p>Read the seminal trials. Read current trials. Don&#8217;t rely on guideline summaries. If you read the post-MI beta-blocker seminal trials, you&#8217;d have zero surprise about their lack of effect in current trials. </p></li><li><p>Trials require expiration dates. See also the ICD in patients with non-ischemic cardiomyopathy. </p></li><li><p>I will bet you two espressos that quality improvement initiatives reduce quality. </p></li><li><p>Cite trials in the medical record. For instance, &#8220;we are stopping aspirin because the patient is on oral anticoagulation&#8230; AQUATIC trial.&#8221;  </p></li><li><p>Your note does not have to be long, but it should create a memorable picture of the patient. </p></li><li><p>Notes are a great place to practice writing. Use short sentences. Avoid throw away phrases, such as, &#8220;it was pleasure seeing this wonderful patient.&#8221; Say something interesting, please. AI does not help me. I write my own notes. </p></li><li><p>Use ultrasound when puncturing major blood vessels. POCUS may be one of the most elegant innovations in medicine. </p></li><li><p>Repeat #1: say <em>I will help you</em> to patients. </p></li><li><p>Be truthful with patients, but be optimistic. Use the placebo effect. Avoid the nocebo effect. Words can harm or heaI. I often warn families after I implant a pacemaker that the patient will be hard to contain. Say this in front of the patient. </p></li><li><p>Never order a test just to know something. Tests are scary and you should always have a prior; the test modifies that prior. </p></li><li><p>Learn the Gerd Gigerenzer <a href="https://scalar.usc.edu/works/quantitative-literacy-and-the-humanities/probability-natural-frequencies">breast cancer problem</a> that most doctors get wrong. </p></li><li><p><em>&#8220;The heart will not stop.&#8221;</em> Dr Bill Dillon when called about asymptomatic bradycardia. Caveat that we have added: <em>&#8220;The heart will not stop, unless a heart doctor gets overzealous.&#8221; </em></p></li><li><p>Learn the Miguel Indurain heart rate story. The 5-time winner of the Tour famously had a resting heart rate in the 20s. </p></li><li><p>Polymorphic VT can have two origins&#8212;with totally different treatments. A) is pause-dependent with QT prolongation. This is torsades de pointes, and it&#8217;s treatment is to increase HR and remove the QT prolonging agent. B) is malignant VT usually due to ischemia. Treatment is antiarrhythmic drugs and investigating the cause. Knowing the difference allows you to save lives. </p></li><li><p>Speaking of drugs, pharmacology is underrated. This should be taught later in medical training, so that it sticks better. </p></li><li><p>Don&#8217;t use enoxaparin or heparin acutely for AF. There are no trials. Oral anticoagulation provides its benefit over years not hours. Just give an oral dose of anticoagulation if you feel compelled. </p></li><li><p>For AF and rapid rates, don&#8217;t use IV diltiazem. Use IV beta-blockers, digoxin and oral meds. Also put people in a quite reassuring environment. Adrenaline drives tachycardia. </p></li><li><p>Don&#8217;t rely on the echocardiogram ejection fraction when the patient is in new AF with a heart rate of 130 bpm. </p></li><li><p>Never ever shock a person with less than maximum energy. 1J hurts as much as 200J. You look really dumb if you don&#8217;t use maximal energy. </p></li><li><p>Phone-a-friend is your most important tool in medicine. 2x better than any LLM. </p></li><li><p>Think about palliative care before patients have hours to live. Staci says palliative care people are <em>pals for people with severe disease</em>. Know that palliative care is not the same as hospice. </p></li><li><p>Not all cardiac devices need to be replaced. Tell pts this before the device reaches battery replacement. Generator change is the classic low probability/high consequence problem. E.g. device infection (low Pb) and subsequent need to extract 20 year olds leads (high consequence). </p></li><li><p>I hate adenosine for SVT. The &#8220;heart stopper&#8221; works, but it&#8217;s harsh, ugly and unnecessary. Calm the patient down, naturally lower adrenaline levels, and then vagal maneuvers or IV beta-blockers are more likely to work in a calm patient. </p></li><li><p>When in doubt, go see the patient. </p></li><li><p>Moving radiologists out of the hospital has been an awful development. I learned so much from them&#8212;even the one in our hospital who had no chairs in her office (so that people would not overstay their welcome.)</p></li><li><p>I hate telemedicine. I am allergic to Zoom. </p></li><li><p>Doctors who take night call are underpaid, especially those who go in to fix heart attacks. They have my respect. </p></li><li><p>Your most important day in Medicine is career day. Choose wisely. I am so glad I picked EP. Interventional fields seem sexy when you are young, but fixing MIs at 0400 is not so easy in middle age. </p></li><li><p>Speaking of EP: three of the most common procedures I do in 2025 (AF ablation, CRT, and conduction system pacing) did not exist when I trained. Not only did they not exist, they were not even thought of.  Be prepared to learn lots. </p></li><li><p>Spironolactone is one my secret weapons for patients with any kind of heart failure. </p></li><li><p>Doctors who write and think about policy should travel. I cannot believe how little I knew about how healthcare could be delivered until I went to other countries. My favorite system is the Danish system. </p></li><li><p>Two of the most important questions to ask about a trial result: was the effect size clinically meaningful and was the effect statistically robust. For the former, look at absolute risk reduction; for the latter, look at the 95% confidence intervals.</p></li><li><p>Another overlooked evidence pearl: how many people were screened to get in a trial? Famously, to get into PARADIGM HF (sacubitril/valsartan) you had to tolerate both enalapril and sacubitril/valsartan for 2 and 4 weeks. </p></li><li><p>Nearly every treatment recommendation in modern medicine is <em>preference sensitive</em>. Never say someone &#8220;needs&#8221; anything. People need food and water. Almost everything else is sensitive to patient preferences. </p></li><li><p>Shared decision making is way overrated. Too often, it is used as a menu. Never present treatment options as a menu. Other times, SDM is used to guide patients to lower value or less beneficial procedures.</p></li><li><p>Stories are what make the hospital such a great place to work. Nearly a day goes by that I don&#8217;t hear a great story. </p></li><li><p>AI is an amazing tool that will only get better. But it won&#8217;t replace the need for humanity in medicine. That said, you&#8217;d better figure out a way to create value over and above a LLM. </p></li><li><p>Doctors overestimate how much control they have over outcomes. Dr John Lloyd when he read my essay on Medical Reversals. </p></li><li><p>No matter how bad the administrative overreach gets, Medicine remains an excellent career. Because we help people. The job has meaning. I love it. </p></li></ol><p>Feel free to add some of yours. Happy Thanksgiving </p><p>JMM </p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://johnmandrola.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[A Fall Update of My Work Outside of the EP Lab]]></title><description><![CDATA[The mornings in Louisville have grown colder.]]></description><link>https://johnmandrola.substack.com/p/a-fall-update-of-my-work-outside</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://johnmandrola.substack.com/p/a-fall-update-of-my-work-outside</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[John Mandrola]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2025 13:49:21 GMT</pubDate><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The mornings in Louisville have grown colder. Our 5 AM thumper of a 40-mile bike ride has given way to the indoor trainer. My brain has more time to write and think in the early mornings.</p><p>Here is review of my writing, podcasting and academic work from the fall.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://johnmandrola.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Stop and Think  is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h4><strong>Fish Oil</strong></h4><p>I had thought all the news this month would come from the AHA meeting in New Orleans. I was wrong. At Kidney Week we learned results of the <a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2513032">PISCES trial,</a> an RCT comparing fish oil supplements to corn oil placebo in patients on hemodialysis. Nothing works in these patients, so the positive results were a shocker.</p><p>My column is here: <strong><a href="https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/why-i-believe-fish-oils-big-cv-benefit-dialysis-patients-2025a1000uzg">Why I Believe Fish Oil&#8217;s Big CV Benefit in Dialysis Patients</a>. </strong>I also covered PISCES for <a href="https://www.sensible-med.com/p/the-pisces-trial-a-breakthrough-or">Sensible Medicine</a>.</p><p>A good rebuttal leads the <a href="https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/1003092">TWIC podcast</a> this past Friday. From Richard Bogle.</p><div><hr></div><h4><strong>Left Atrial Appendage Closure</strong></h4><p>I have long argued (on five continents, actually) that putting foreign bodies in the left atrial appendage was a dubious stroke prevention strategy. No matter, my colleagues have closed more than a half-million appendages. Weird is that since the seminal trials failed to show definitive benefit from LAAC, no one thought to do any more trials. Until recently.</p><p>A German team from Charite hospital in Berlin led the CLOSURE AF trial, a fair test of LAAC to &#8220;best medical care,&#8221; which mostly included the newer oral anticoagulants. The best part of the trial was that it was <em>not</em> industry funded, and Germany was one of the earliest adopters of LAAC.</p><p>LAAC failed. My column is here: <strong><a href="https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/percutaneous-left-atrial-appendage-closure-af-falls-short-2025a1000uzu">Percutaneous Left Atrial Appendage Closure in AF Falls Short Again in CLOSURE-AF</a></strong></p><div><hr></div><h4>Stopping Anticoagulation After Successful AF Ablation</h4><p>Patients get put on anticoagulants because they have AF. Sometimes ablation vanquishes AF. Guideline writers still recommend anticoagulation. That&#8217;s hard to explain.</p><p>Canadian investigators presented the <a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2509688">OCEAN trial</a>, which randomized patients with successful AF ablation to either rivaroxaban or low-dose aspirin. The results are technically challenging to interpret, but largely good news.</p><p>My column: <strong><a href="https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/anticoagulation-after-af-ablation-ocean-trial-still-leaves-2025a1000v4t">Anticoagulation After AF Ablation: The OCEAN Trial Still Leaves Questions</a> </strong>I also covered the topic on Friday&#8217;s TWIC in cardiology <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/this-week-in-cardiology/id991125169">podcast</a>.</p><div><hr></div><h4><strong>A Bad Combination &#8211; Anticoagulation and Antiplatelet Drugs</strong></h4><p>Chronic coronary disease and atrial fibrillation are two of the most common cardiac conditions. They often co-exist. Doctors like to think of the human body as an engine to be tweaked. So we use anticoagulants to prevent clots in AF; and antiplatelets to prevent clots in arteries. But the combination has never faced head-to-head scrutiny.</p><p>In 2025, two trials tested dual pathway (both drugs) to single pathway (only anticoagulant) therapy. I wrote columns about both trials. And both yielded clear answers in favor of single pathway therapy. Less is almost always more.</p><p>The ADAPT AF-DES trial: <strong><a href="https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/spread-word-af-patients-stents-dont-need-dual-antithrombotic-2025a1000v5b">Spread the Word: AF Patients With Stents Don&#8217;t Need Dual Antithrombotic Therapy</a></strong></p><p>The AQUATIC Trial:<strong> <a href="https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/aquatic-finds-clear-harm-aspirin-anticoagulation-combo-2025a1000ntq">AQUATIC Finds Clear Harm From Aspirin-Anticoagulation Combo</a></strong></p><p>My column on AQUATIC for<strong> <a href="https://www.sensible-med.com/p/the-aquatic-trial-of-oral-anticoagulation">Sensible Medicine</a></strong></p><div><hr></div><h4><strong>Beta-Blockers after MI</strong></h4><p>One of the oldest and strongest dogmas in cardiology is that patients should receive beta-blockers after a myocardial infarction (MI). We even have quality measures that measure beta-blocker usage after MI; the acceptable percentage is 100%.</p><p>Yet MI in 2025 looks nothing like an MI in 1980. Now it is common for people-with-an-MI to get a stent, sustain zero heart injury and go home the next day with a band-aid on their wrist.</p><p>In the last 24 months, a slew of trials have come forth upending our oldest dogma. The Swedish <a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2401479">REDUCE AMI</a> trial, the French <a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/abs/10.1056/NEJMoa2404204">ABYSS</a> trial, and the Japanese <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30153268/">CAPITAL RCT</a> each found little reduction of hard outcomes with beta-blocker use or nonuse in patients with MI.</p><p>At the European meeting in September, I wrote about two largely negative trials of beta-blockers in post-MI patients. <strong><a href="https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/beta-blockers-post-mi-clear-clinical-message-2025a1000mz0">Beta-Blockers Post-MI: A Clear Clinical Message</a>. </strong>NEJM just published the <a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2512686">least surprising meta-analysis</a> ever done.</p><div><hr></div><h4><strong>Expiration Dates for Evidence</strong></h4><p>The most important message from the beta-blockers post-MI story is that dogmas should have expiration dates.</p><p>Perhaps the next practice to be reversed is the primary prevention internal cardioverter-defibrillator (ICD) for patients with heart failure.</p><p>My column<strong>: <a href="https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/time-nix-primary-prevention-icd-2025a1000mz2">Time to Nix the Primary Prevention ICD?</a></strong></p><div><hr></div><h4><strong>Prostate Cancer Screening</strong></h4><p>Now that I see doctors as a patient, I have faced the PSA sell. <em>John, you are too young to die of prostate cancer,</em> goes the message.</p><p>NEJM recently published 23-year results of the European Randomized Study of Screening for Prostate Cancer trial. I covered the stunning results on Sensible Medicine: <strong><a href="https://www.sensible-med.com/p/the-psa-screening-test-and-humility">The PSA Screening Test and Humility</a></strong></p><div><hr></div><h4>Places to find my work:</h4><p>I write for <a href="https://www.medscape.com/cardiology">TheHeart.org | Medscape Cardiology</a></p><p>The <em>This Week in Cardiology</em> Podcast comes out every Friday. Here is the THO link which includes rough transcripts: <a href="https://www.medscape.com/index/list_10295_0">https://www.medscape.com/index/list_10295_0</a> </p><p>But you can also find the podcast on iTunes, Spotify and other apps.</p><p>I also write and edit the <a href="https://www.sensible-med.com/">Sensible Medicine Substack</a>, now over 100,000 subscribers. My main column is the Study of the Week on Monday mornings.</p><p>I am also active on X (formerly Twitter):<strong> <a href="https://x.com/drjohnm">@DrJohnM</a></strong></p><div><hr></div><h4><strong>Academic Work:</strong></h4><p>In the American Heart Journal Plus: <strong><a href="https://doi.org/10.1016/j.ahjo.2025.100594">Stroke prevention in atrial fibrillation: Why oral anticoagulation remains the standard over devices</a></strong></p><p>In the European Heart Journal:<strong> <a href="https://academic.oup.com/europace/article/27/10/euaf203/8245303?login=false">Great Debate--the blanking period after atrial fibrillation ablation is needed and should be maintained</a></strong></p><p>In the American Journal of Medicine:<strong> <a href="https://www.amjmed.com/article/S0002-9343(25)00390-0/fulltext">Medical hyperbole: an unnecessary element in scientific clinical presentations</a></strong></p><p>In the International Journal of Cardiology:<strong> <a href="https://doi.org/10.1016/j.ijcard.2025.133524">Time-to-event analysis of the long-term outcome in trials comparing transcatheter and surgical aortic valve implantation: A meta-analysis</a></strong></p><p>In a letter to the New England Journal of Medicine: <strong><a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2502743">Tirzepatide for Heart Failure and Obesity</a></strong></p><p>In Cardiology Reviews:<strong> <a href="https://escholarship.org/uc/item/44s2w51h">The History of Angina and Its Remedies: COURAGE, ORBITA, and a Path Forward</a></strong></p><p>In JAMA Network Open:<strong> <a href="https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2827168">Heart Failure and All-Cause Hospitalizations in Patients With Heart Failure: A Meta-Analysis</a></strong></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://johnmandrola.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Medical evidence should not be too technical for doctors ]]></title><description><![CDATA[I debated two key opinion leaders last week.]]></description><link>https://johnmandrola.substack.com/p/medical-evidence-should-not-be-too</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://johnmandrola.substack.com/p/medical-evidence-should-not-be-too</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[John Mandrola]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2025 12:44:01 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qfsO!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa6543bd6-4ad7-45c9-a07c-618ba95cd03c_2690x1634.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I debated two key opinion leaders last week. I will tell you topic later; it doesn&#8217;t matter for what I want to argue now. </p><p>In both debates, my academic colleagues did not focus on the evidence underpinning the procedure. They <em>mentioned</em> evidence, but in only a guideline-sort of way. As if to say, it&#8217;s in the guidelines, it&#8217;s settled. </p><p>In one of the debates, my opponent cited the vast number of procedures that have been done since approval. The message: Mandrola, the majority of your colleagues love this procedure. You are an outlier? Are you smarter than the masses?</p><p>In the other debate, my opponent said he just knew the device worked. The studies I cited were old, and my analysis was technical. &#8220;John, most doctors can&#8217;t see the details in studies like you can.&#8221;</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://johnmandrola.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Stop and Think  is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p>I&#8217;ve been stewing about these attitudes for a few days. I&#8217;ve heard them before, especially the one about doctors not being able to appraise studies. </p><p>This is embarrassing for our field. Of course doctors should be able to assess evidence. We are in the evidence-assessment business. When a patient seeks our help, we use our evidence-assessment skills to sort out the problem and the fix. </p><p>We should expect nothing less when it comes to assessing the evidence underpinning our therapies. </p><p>But that&#8217;s not what I see out there&#8212;in the hospital, clinic and speaking circuit. </p><p>What I see is that doctors simply accept what guideline writers put into those colored boxes. Which would be fine if guidelines were written by neutral Martians free of dualities of interests. But that&#8217;s not the case. </p><p>Let me show you some examples of dubious evidence, which a practicing doctor ought to know about and be able to use in clinic. </p><p><strong>Example 1</strong>: Left atrial appendage occlusion proponents should be able to explain their enthusiasm for a procedure that had two failed regulatory trials against warfarin. PROTECT AF failed to pass FDA muster, and PREVAIL failed to meet noninferiority in its co-primary endpoint for stroke, embolism and CV death. 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8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>I&#8217;ve been told that this is too nuanced for doctors. I disagree. </p><p>What this shows is that the upper bound (worst case) is that the Watchman device could be 2x worse than warfarin. And the NI margin was a whopping 1.75&#8212;meaning the trial had such a low bar that Watchman could be 74% worse and still meet noninferiority. But it didn&#8217;t. It was even worse. <br><br><strong>Example 2</strong>: In heart failure, sacubitril/valsartan (Entresto) is preferred over basic generic ACE-I. I contend that every cardiologist should be able to explain their love of this drug given two facts: one is that its regulatory trial (<a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1409077">PARADIGM HF</a>) used maximum dose valsartan against medium dose enalapril, and we know that dosage of this drug class matters. The second is that no other trial of sacubitril/valsartan has delivered significant results. Why not? </p><p><strong>Example 2a</strong>: Also in heart failure, the new mineralocorticoid receptor antagonist (MRA) finerenone is being promoted as the next new thing in treating patients with heart failure and a preserved ejection fraction (HFpEF). The regulatory trial called <a href="https://www.nejm.org/do/10.1056/NEJMdo006729/full/">FINEARTS HF</a> was positive, but this trial compared the drug to placebo. Yet I think every cardiologist who uses this drug should explain why they think it is better than the generic MRA drug spironolactone. That a new drug for HFpEF gets on the market without proving superiority to a generic is not too technical for a cardiologist. <br><br><strong>Example 3</strong>: In some centers, cath lab staff are not sent home until the last stress test is read as negative. That&#8217;s because nearly all positive stress tests get sent to the cath lab for angiography. The sky is blue and you get an angiogram for a positive stress test. Well, I don&#8217;t think it too nuanced for doctors to explain why this is the norm when our government spent $100 million on the <a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1915922">ISCHEMIA</a> trial, where 5000 patients with positive stress tests were randomized to immediate angiography or conservative medical management and there was no difference in hard outcomes. </p><p><strong>Example 4:</strong> Primary care clinicians don&#8217;t get off the hook. I would expect them to be able to explain the <a href="https://www.nejm.org/do/10.1056/NEJMdo006729/full/">NORDICC Trial</a> of screening colonoscopy. In this NEJM-published study, more than 84,000 people were randomized to be invited to screening or not invited. In the end, the risk of dying of colon cancer was 0.28% in the invited group vs 0.31% in the non-invited group and risk of dying was 11.0% in both arms. I do not think it is too technical for a primary care clinician ordering a colonoscopy to understand that the difference in colon cancer death in this most modern trial is 0.03%. And there was no survival advantage. <em>(The response should not be that those who actually had the screening did better; if this is your answer, you fail critical appraisal 101. Because people who get the screen are different from those who did not.) </em></p><div><hr></div><p>I will stop now. But my point is that doctors (and advanced practice professionals) are about to face a crisis. That is, when a patient comes to you with an AI-driven thread of questions regarding the evidentiary support of a proposed treatment, the answer better not be&#8230;it&#8217;s in the guidelines, or, I know it works, or, 500,000 procedures have already been done. </p><p>What will doctors be for, if we cannot be better at evidence appraisal than a large language model? </p><p>I propose that we reinvigorate the skill of critical appraisal. </p><p>If we can learn the biochemistry and organic chemistry, we can surely understand that putting efficacy and safety endpoints into a non-inferiority primary endpoint is an easy way to bias a trial. </p><p></p><p></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Prasad Being Forced Out of FDA is a Sad Day for Evidence-Based Medicine ]]></title><description><![CDATA[I am sure we will have more to say about the forced resignation of Vinay Prasad over at Sensible Medicine.]]></description><link>https://johnmandrola.substack.com/p/prasad-being-forced-out-of-fda-is</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://johnmandrola.substack.com/p/prasad-being-forced-out-of-fda-is</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[John Mandrola]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2025 12:08:13 GMT</pubDate><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sure we will have more to say about the <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/29/health/vinay-prasad-fda-resigns-loomer.html?unlocked_article_code=1.aU8.gtY7.pr6E8JVOHgqp&amp;smid=nytcore-ios-share&amp;referringSource=articleShare">forced resignation</a> of Vinay Prasad over at Sensible Medicine. Adam and I will welcome our friend back. </p><p>Here are some initial thoughts. </p><p>Mainly I am sad. </p><p>Sad for Vinay because he told me how much he had learned in his short time. He was happy doing a job that had incredible meaning. You could see how much this new role meant to him in the FDA videos he did with Marty. It was a different Vinay. </p><p>I am also sad for FDA, because I <em>had thought</em> that this new leadership could make a difference. Marty and Vinay together had a chance to bring increased rigor and greater independence to drug and device regulation. WIth RFK Jr&#8217;s opinion on removing industry influence, I had thought that the new FDA would be less apt to approve dubious drugs and devices. </p><p>Yet Vinay&#8217;s rapid ouster turned this optimism into magical thinking. </p><p>His first tough stance&#8212;regarding Sarepta&#8217;s drug for Duchenne Muscular Dystrophy&#8212; brought anger from right wing influencers Laura Loomer and former senator RIck Santorum. </p><p>The question I have, and surely you do too, is why would political operatives care about a specific drug for a rare disease. </p><p>Surely everyone (no matter the political affiliation) would want an FDA that reacts cautiously to any drug that could cause death.  </p><p>NYT reports that Rick Santorum &#8220;has ties to Sarepta.&#8221;  Here is the paragraph from the article: </p><blockquote><p>Dr. Prasad&#8217;s critics argued that his actions with Elevidys amounted to a crusade against Sarepta. Mr. Santorum, <em>who has ties to Sarepta</em>, also reposted an editorial lambasting Dr. Prasad on social media and called top officials at the White House to relay his concerns, according to a person familiar with the matter.</p></blockquote><p>We don&#8217;t know what these ties were but it&#8217;s hardly a conspiracy theory to believe that industry may have influenced these attacks. </p><p>And if that were true, if industry could so easily extract an independent judge of evidence, then the only thing to feel is intense cynicism and hopelessness. </p><p>Gosh this is bad. I am not against medical industry. We have had great advances in this generation. </p><p>But society also needs independent judges to prevent profiteering of susceptible people with serious illness. That we had one, and he was removed this easily is simply awful. Trust is shredded. </p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://johnmandrola.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Stop and Think  is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[This Week in Cardiology Podcast is Fixed ]]></title><description><![CDATA[I did a deep dive into cardiac imaging, focusing on the use of CTA for the diagnosis of coronary artery disease. I think the anatomic imaging test is leading us astray.]]></description><link>https://johnmandrola.substack.com/p/this-week-in-cardiology-podcast-is</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://johnmandrola.substack.com/p/this-week-in-cardiology-podcast-is</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[John Mandrola]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2025 13:27:46 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Wgpz!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F40ee3226-8785-4625-8c5a-53eb0f2ee58f_1532x480.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a post about coronary artery imaging. </p><p>But first, in the matter of first world problems, the <a href="https://www.medscape.com/index/list_10295_0">This Week in Cardiology podcast</a> did not upload properly to the Apple and Spotify platforms yesterday. The Medscape team promptly fixed the issue and the podcast can now be heard in full. </p><p>I make note of this because I spent the week studying the use of coronary CT scanning. </p><p>Here are a few words about this relatively new way to assess for coronary artery disease. When you present for evaluation of chest pain, we try to diagnose and treat the problem. While chest pain can have many causes, a primary concern is coronary artery disease or CAD. </p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://johnmandrola.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Stop and Think  is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p>In days of old there was only &#8220;functional&#8221; testing for CAD. That is, we stressed the heart, either with exercise or vasodilators, and then assessed for ischemia (demand &gt; supply due to coronary disease). </p><p>Inducible ischemia shows up on either the ECG, echo, or nuclear perfusion images. If positive, stress tests provided &#8220;indirect&#8221; evidence for coronary disease. The doctor could then treat the patient for CAD or refer for invasive coronary angiography&#8212;wherein contrast is injected into each of the three coronary arteries. </p><p><em>(Of course, the multimillion dollar <a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1915922">ISCHEMIA trial </a>found that there was no difference in outcomes for sending patients with positive stress tests immediately to the cath lab for coronary angiography vs initial medical treatment. But no matter, the train from positive stress tests to the cath lab remains at full capacity in the US.)</em></p><p>Coronary CT scans offer a different way to diagnose CAD. We call these &#8220;anatomic&#8221; tests&#8212;wherein the doctor can see the blockage as contrast goes down the coronary. (Note, a coronary CT is different from a coronary calcium scan. The latter simply measures the amount of calcium in the arteries whereas coronary CT is an actual angiogram of the inside of the vessel.) </p><p>The promise of coronary CT is that non-invasive angiography allows a more accurate diagnosis of CAD. Because you can see it. </p><p>I was part of a <a href="https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2655243">meta-analysis of studies</a> comparing functional and anatomic testing in patients with chest pain. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Wgpz!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F40ee3226-8785-4625-8c5a-53eb0f2ee58f_1532x480.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Wgpz!, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/w_424, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/q_auto:good, 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/__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F40ee3226-8785-4625-8c5a-53eb0f2ee58f_1532x480.png 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Wgpz!, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/w_848, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F40ee3226-8785-4625-8c5a-53eb0f2ee58f_1532x480.png 848w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Wgpz!, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/w_1272, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F40ee3226-8785-4625-8c5a-53eb0f2ee58f_1532x480.png 1272w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Wgpz!, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/w_1456, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F40ee3226-8785-4625-8c5a-53eb0f2ee58f_1532x480.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>We found that use of CTA decreased the incidence of MI but increased the use of coronary interventions. CTA vs functional stress testing did not result in a decrease in cardiac hospitalizations or mortality. However, and it was a big however, we were forced by reviewers to include a trial that was dissimilar from all the others. </p><p>The question we asked was which method was better to evaluate patients with chest pain&#8212;CTA or functional tests. We wanted to include only trials that <em>directly</em> compared the two testing strategies. Those trials, when combined, showed no difference in any outcome. </p><p>Peer reviewers, however insisted that we include the <a href="http://10.1016/S0140-6736(15)60291-4 External Link">SCOT-HEART</a> trial, which found that adding CTA to the normal routine of testing reduced MI in the future. Adding SCOT-HEART drove the positive results (MI) of our meta-analysis. </p><p>But there were two issues with SCOT-HEART. One was that it did not directly compare CTA and functional testing. Instead it was a comparison of CTA + functional testing to functional testing alone. So we did not originally include it in our meta-analysis. Peer reviewers insisted, and we had two choices: include it or have the paper rejected. </p><p>The second issue with SCOT-HEART arose when the authors presented the <a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1805971">five year results</a>, which showed dramatic reductions in MI when adding CTA. </p><p>The title of my commentary at that time was: <a href="https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/901204">Five Reasons I Don't Believe an Imaging Test Improves Outcomes</a>. See also my post on SCOT-HEART on <a href="https://www.sensible-med.com/p/when-trials-find-implausible-resultsthe">Sensible Medicine</a>. </p><p>I discussed this issue again on this <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/jun-20-2025-this-week-in-cardiology/id991125169?i=1000713878617">week&#8217;s podcast</a>. The short story is that the degree of reduction in MI in SCOT-HEART was outsized and hard to explain. </p><p>I went further into CTA imaging on last week&#8217;s podcast. </p><p>For instance, the test is used in much different ways in the US vs Scotland. In cost-constrained health systems the test is used to decrease the number of expensive angiography and stent procedures. They do this by believing in the evidence and treating any CAD medically. Because that is what the evidence shows. </p><p>In the US, it&#8217;s the opposite. Hospitals are buying CTA scanners and putting them in ERs and chest pain centers, because the anatomic test finds CAD at higher rates than functional tests. It does not matter that patients can present with totally non-cardiac pain and the CTA finds coincidental CAD. </p><p>The culture here is that CAD should be investigated with an invasive angiogram and stented if significant&#8212;despite the evidence showing there is no benefit. I call the CTA scanners in the US cash machines because they send more patients to the cath lab than functional tests did. </p><p>The other issue I went into on the podcast was a new twist on using CTA called fractional flow reserve or FFR from the CT. This proprietary test from a company called HeartFlow purports to tell doctors whether a partial blockage seen on CTA is tight enough to limit flow. And if it is, that is bad, and it should be fixed. </p><p>Of course, FFR is used in the cath lab as well. </p><p>My take is that FFR is a flawed measure, no matter where it&#8217;s used. I went into detail on one of the seminal studies of CT-FFR, called the <a href="https://academic.oup.com/eurheartj/article/39/41/3701/5078463">ADVANCE</a> registry. I found a darn mess. </p><p><strong>Conclusion</strong></p><p>Many smart people have advised me not to be critical of a test. A test is just a test. The problem are the humans who misuse the test. That advice fits here. A CTA is a simple picture of coronary arteries. Our job is to use it wisely. That it is misused is the fault of humans not the scanner. </p><p>Coronary artery disease is part of the diverse disease of atherosclerosis. CAD treatment therefore should focus on treating atherosclerosis: diet, exercise, good control of blood pressure and cholesterol for instance. </p><p>Placing stents in stable partial blockages does not reduce the chance of future MI or death. It&#8217;s a hard concept but it&#8217;s been borne out by every clinical trial ever done. </p><p>If a CTA finds CAD the treatment is not a stent but medical treatment. Then if medical treatment fails, a stent can be considered. </p><div><hr></div><p>Here are the various places that you can find the podcast. It publishes every Friday afternoon. </p><p><a href="https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/1002652">This Week in Cardiology podcast on Medscape (with a transcript) </a></p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/jun-20-2025-this-week-in-cardiology/id991125169?i=1000713878617">This Week in Cardiology podcast on Apple </a></p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/4BiOQyjJdMk2KZ0F8rHFng">This Week in Cardiology podcast on Spotify </a></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Restoring Gold Standard Science is Far More than Stopping Fraud ]]></title><description><![CDATA[Some brief thoughts on the call for Gold Standard Science]]></description><link>https://johnmandrola.substack.com/p/restoring-gold-standard-science-is</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://johnmandrola.substack.com/p/restoring-gold-standard-science-is</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[John Mandrola]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2025 15:21:42 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7jbs!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F088f7dfb-0945-4a34-ab07-65c80b0749c6_1180x592.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look at this <a href="https://x.com/DrJMarine/status/1926632102193238170">post</a> from Dr. Joseph Marine. He comments on the new executive order about <a href="https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/05/restoring-gold-standard-science/">&#8220;Restoring Gold Standard Science.&#8221;</a> </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7jbs!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F088f7dfb-0945-4a34-ab07-65c80b0749c6_1180x592.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7jbs!, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/w_424, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F088f7dfb-0945-4a34-ab07-65c80b0749c6_1180x592.png 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8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>I write to clarify one particular issue about flawed science. The executive order highlights the matter of science that does not replicate, likely because it is fraudulent.</p><p><strong>Fraud is not the biggest problem with medical science</strong>. Not even close. The biggest problem is what I call &#8220;middle-of-the-curve&#8221; lousy science. If there are 10 problems with medical science, numbers 1-7 are simply poorly designed and inconsequential projects, which never had a chance of advancing knowledge.  </p><p>The analogy for the middle-of-the-curve problem is modern clinical practice. While the criminals giving chemo or placing stents without reason are real, downright malfeasance is a rarity. Far more common is everyday low-value non-beneficial care that is performed as standard operating procedure. I call it therapeutic fashion. Coronary angiography after every positive stress test; screening elderly people for cancer; coronary artery scans for people on statins. I could make a long list. </p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://johnmandrola.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Stop and Think  is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p>I have no doubt that some small fraction of science is falsified, but far more common is the everyday lousy study. </p><p>Take observational comparison studies that are fatally biased from the beginning. Most of these studies have zero chance of eliminating bias. The attempts to match groups is a charade. Journals publish oodles of such studies every week. Sometimes these are popular papers, covered in big news sites. </p><p>The authors try not to couch the results in causal language, though they often fail. Yet it would not matter if a large language model scraped every causal verb from the manuscript; the truth is that the goal was to find causation. And it was hopeless. It shouldn&#8217;t have been attempted. </p><p>Yet incentives to publish are strong. The saddest thing is that the young people assigned to do these worthless studies could have spent this time learning clinical medicine (or cycling or reading or doing just about anything else). </p><p>Another example: the 29th substudy of an already underpowered randomized controlled trial. The general results of a trial have wide 95% confidence intervals, leading to uncertainty about the overall outcome. Then authors post-hoc break up smaller subgroups which have even less power. The most likely outcome is being fooled. These may be worse than worthless. </p><p>But perhaps the absolute worst type of middle-of-the-curve bad science are trials designed to be positive before the first patient is enrolled. These are marketing trials wherein nobody involved is interested in answering a question about nature. </p><p>The<a href="https://www.sensible-med.com/p/finding-bias-before-the-first-patient"> ATLAS</a> trial compared two types of defibrillator and the endpoint had 4 of 5 components that could only happen in one arm. The <a href="https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/mandrola-previews-option-trial-most-worrisome-study-aha-2024-2024a1000kmz">OPTION</a> trial compared safety of a stroke prevention device (which requires an invasive procedure) against a simple anticoagulant and used an endpoint that excludes bleeding from the procedure. This list, too, is long. </p><p>I know many people worry that the new administration has cut science funding. I don&#8217;t. Because every week, when I review medical evidence, I see tremendous amounts of waste. </p><p>The solution of course is to foster science that has every characteristic shown in the slide below: </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!shwC!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0aa9852e-0019-43d3-ae01-832383f48737_1178x610.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!shwC!, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/w_424, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0aa9852e-0019-43d3-ae01-832383f48737_1178x610.png 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It is need of big changes. Incremental is not going to cut it. </p><p>I&#8217;m happy to give a new group a chance. JMM</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://johnmandrola.substack.com/p/restoring-gold-standard-science-is?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/p/restoring-gold-standard-science-is?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><p></p><p></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Things I have worked on in the last month ]]></title><description><![CDATA[The main thing I do, of course, is my work as an electrophysiologist.]]></description><link>https://johnmandrola.substack.com/p/things-i-have-worked-on-in-the-last</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://johnmandrola.substack.com/p/things-i-have-worked-on-in-the-last</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[John Mandrola]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2025 15:16:44 GMT</pubDate><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The main thing I do, of course, is my work as an electrophysiologist. </p><p>Pulsed field ablation has transformed AF ablation. It is fast, safe and has changed the calculus to recommend AF ablation. PFA is probably not any more successful, but it is less likely to cause the most dreaded complication&#8212;atrial-esophageal fistula. </p><p>On the pacing front, we continue to use conduction system pacing, which results in  gorgeous paced QRS complexes, and likely avoids pacing induced cardiomyopathy. We are (proudly) randomizing patients in the <a href="https://orit.research.bcm.edu/leftvsleft/">Left vs Left</a> clinical trial. </p><p>Honestly, it&#8217;s never been a better time to be a heart rhythm doctor. </p><div><hr></div><h4>At Medscape</h4><p>I wrote two new columns. </p><p><a href="https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/cerebral-protection-tavi-picture-vs-thousands-data-points-2025a10008z3">Cerebral Protection in TAVI: A Picture vs Thousands of Data Points</a> explores the mystery of cerebral protection during transcatheter aortic valve implantation or TAVI. The short story: TAVI creates lots of debris during the procedure. The debris can travel north to the brain and cause stroke. A device placed in the carotids catches debris. Pictures show it. Yet three trials have found no significant benefit in stroke. How is that possible? Get this: an observational study may explain the mystery. </p><p>In <a href="https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/cabg-still-superior-stents-despite-fame-3-endpoint-swap-2025a1000ao5">CABG Still Superior to Stents Despite FAME 3 Endpoint Swap</a>, I highlight the way proponents of a procedure can emphasize more favorable endpoints in a trial. We can treat symptomatic multi-vessel coronary artery disease with either percutaneous coronary intervention (with stents) or coronary artery bypass grafts (CABG). Numerous trials favor CABG. The FAME-3 trial also favored CABG in its 1-year results. Now, FAME-3 authors have published 3- and 5-year results, suggesting stents are equivalent. I explain why the results are actually the same as the 1-year results. </p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://johnmandrola.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Stop and Think  is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h4>On the <em>This Week in Cardiology Podcast </em></h4><p><a href="https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/1002473">Apr 18, 2025 This Week in Cardiology Podcast</a>. Further discussion of FAME-3, and TAVR vs SAVR at 5 years, pacers after TAVR, and mavacamten is not a wonder drug for all types of hypertrophic cardiomyopathy.</p><p>The <a href="https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/1002487">Apr 25, 2025 This Week in Cardiology Podcast</a> reported on AI and ECGs, a novel ways to treat hypertension, combined lipid-lowering therapy after myocardial infarction, PFA and silent stroke, a move toward accountability in AF ablation, and pacing issues in tricuspid valve replacement. </p><p>In the <a href="https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/1002501#vp_3">May 02, 2025 This Week in Cardiology Podcast</a>, I commented on the recent FDA approval of TAVR for asymptomatic patients with severe aortic stenosis, digital health, the subcutaneous- vs transvenous ICDs and cryptogenic stroke in young adults. The PRAETORIAN XL trial was especially dubious. </p><p>In this week&#8217;s <a href="https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/1002528">May 09, 2025 This Week in Cardiology Podcast</a>, I covered the controversial KETO-CTA study, tough decisions in subclinical AF, and another potentially huge benefit for GLP-1 receptor agonists.</p><p>This Week in Cardiology comes out in any of your favorite podcast apps. The above Medscape links include a rough transcript. </p><div><hr></div><h4>At the European Heart Rhythm Association (EHRA) Meeting in Vienna</h4><p>I gave two lectures. In one I took the contra side of PFA. But it was really difficult because I am now using PFA for all AF ablations. Nonetheless, there is still uncertainty about the new technology. </p><p>In the other lecture, I spoke about caveats in separating statistical vs. clinical significance. I also chaired a session on leadless pacing. </p><div><hr></div><h4>At the UMC Amsterdam </h4><p>I flew from Vienna to Amsterdam to speak at UMC Amsterdam. The first thing to say is that UMC Amsterdam seems like the Mayo Clinic of the Netherlands. It&#8217;s huge. There are basic science labs a pedway walk from the hosptial wards. UMC Amsterdam has a deep history in cardiology. <a href="https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/epdf/10.1161/01.CIR.41.6.899">Total Excitation of the Human Heart</a> is one of the seminal papers describing how the heart is activated. </p><p>As it was in Denmark, to become a Dutch cardiologist requires a PhD. There were 6 PhD candidates who presented their work. There are 3 slots in cardiology. These are impressive young people&#8212;who are achieving great things. Call me old school, but medicine should be this competitive. </p><p>I gave two talks. One on spotting methodological flaws in clinical trials, and the other, a critical appraisal of AF evidence with a focus on areas of uncertainty. The team also took me for a 60k bike ride in the Dutch countryside. It was incredible. </p><h4>Over at Sensible Medicine </h4><p>I usually write on Mondays in a column called the Study of the Week. </p><p>On May 5, the <a href="https://www.sensible-med.com/p/perhaps-the-strongest-benefit-of">Perhaps the Strongest Benefit of GLP1a drugs is.</a>..column appraised the ESSENCE trial, using semaglutide to treat patients with fatty liver disease. </p><p>On April 28, in the <a href="https://www.sensible-med.com/p/words-can-harm-words-can-heal">Words can Harm, Words can Heal column</a>, I wrote about one of my all-time favorite studies, from a single center and author. KB Thomas <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3109581/">studied </a>the value of being positive in clinical encounters. What an awesome study. </p><p>On <a href="https://www.sensible-med.com/p/when-a-negative-trial-causes-confusion">April 21</a>, I wrote about the PROTECT TAVI trial. It was similar to my column on TheHeart.org | Medscape Cardiology, only written for a more general audience. </p><p>On April 14, the <a href="https://www.sensible-med.com/p/tech-bros-require-regular-relooks">Tech Bros Require Regular Relooks at the Seminal Evidence in Coronary Artery Disease</a> column revisited the COURAGE trial, which provocatively showed that fixing severe coronary lesions did <em><strong>not</strong></em> reduce MI or death over simple medical therapy. I aimed to counter the movement pushed by technology billionaires that everyone should be screened for coronary disease. </p><p>We also have a new 20-week series of lectures on <em><strong>How Not to Get Fooled by Medical Literature</strong></em>. In this series, Vinay, Adam and I each present and discuss a pertinent topic in critical appraisal. Here is the <a href="https://www.sensible-med.com/p/how-not-to-get-fooled-by-the-medical">first of 10 lectures</a>. We plan to extend the series after these lectures. </p><p>Sensible Medicine is approaching 100,000 subscribers. It is super exciting. The Substack model allows us to remain independent, free of ads. The next challenge is that Vinay Prasad is leaving (for a while) to head up the CBER division at FDA. We enthusiastically <a href="https://www.sensible-med.com/p/sensible-medicine-endorses-vinay">endorse him</a>, and, we also hope he brings added rigor to the regulatory process. </p><h4>Over at Cardiology Trials Substack</h4><p>I also work with Drs. Andrew Foy and Muhammed Ruzieh in our effort to chronicle all the seminal trials in cardiology. Each trial gets a 1200-word summary, and we do biweekly discussions in podcast format. We finished the acute MI section and are now onto heart failure. </p><p>There are too many posts to single out. But if you are interested in the evidence underpinning what we do in cardiology, <a href="/__u/cardiologytrials.substack.com/">Cardiology Trials</a> is your place. I learn so much reviewing these older trials. The problem, of course, is some things cannot be unseen. </p><h4>Next Meetings</h4><p>I travel to the<a href="https://www.dhzb-akademie.de/en/course/berlin-atrial-fibrillation-2025-3/"> Berlin AF</a> meeting in a couple of weeks. I will speak about one of the most flawed trials in all of electrophysiology&#8212;the OPTION trial. I will also present a lecture on critical appraisal of medical evidence. </p><p>In June, I will speak at the <a href="https://londonarrhythmiasummit.com/">London Arrhythmia Summit</a>. </p><h4>Fitness Update</h4><p>Training wise, I had a difficult winter with a bad crash in October, multiple viral infections, lots of travel and terrible weather in Kentucky. </p><p>I am doing better and our <a href="https://www.strava.com/activities/14414167581">morning rides</a> have begun. My goal at age 61 is to not get dropped on our Sleepy Hollow Climb, a 3:15 second effort at about 4-5% that requires about 350-400 watts to hold wheels. </p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://johnmandrola.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Trials That Attempt to Expand Treatment Indications but Do Not Increase Knowledge ]]></title><description><![CDATA[My latest column is up over at theheart.org | Medscape Cardiology]]></description><link>https://johnmandrola.substack.com/p/trials-that-attempt-to-expand-treatment</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://johnmandrola.substack.com/p/trials-that-attempt-to-expand-treatment</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[John Mandrola]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2025 09:32:16 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tszO!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcb59f9ce-c8dd-4468-abfb-d4ae0a1732e4_1150x540.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first question I ask when looking at a medical study is its purpose. That is: was the study done to sort out an important question or was it done for marketing of an intervention. </p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://johnmandrola.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Stop and Think  is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p>Two studies presented at the recent American College of Cardiology meeting serve as excellent examples of the misplaced incentives in medical science. </p><p>In the <a href="https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/little-learned-trials-are-positive-design-2025a10008jc">column</a>, which is written for a medical reader, I discuss the DapaTAVI and STRIDE trials. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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/__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcb59f9ce-c8dd-4468-abfb-d4ae0a1732e4_1150x540.png 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tszO!, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/w_848, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcb59f9ce-c8dd-4468-abfb-d4ae0a1732e4_1150x540.png 848w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tszO!, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/w_1272, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcb59f9ce-c8dd-4468-abfb-d4ae0a1732e4_1150x540.png 1272w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tszO!, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/w_1456, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcb59f9ce-c8dd-4468-abfb-d4ae0a1732e4_1150x540.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p></p><p>In <a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2500366">DapaTAVI</a>, investigators randomized patients after a transcatheter aortic valve implantation or TAVI. One group got the SGLT2i dapagliflozin; the other group got standard care. (No placebo tablet). </p><p>Patients who get TAVI are older and have multiple conditions that predispose to fluid buildup requiring diuretic therapy. </p><p>After one year, 15% of patients in the dapagliflozin group had a primary outcome event of death or heart failure event (urgent visit or hospitalization) vs 20.1% in the control arm. That 28% lower rate reached statistical significance, rendering the trial a win for the SGLT2i dapagliflozin. </p><p>The problems I had with the trial were:</p><ul><li><p>The control arm did not get a placebo tablet. That means patients and doctors knew the treatment assignment. </p></li><li><p>The driver of the positive primary endpoint was not death but a HF event. That&#8217;s a problem because the decision to have a patient come in for an &#8220;urgent visit&#8221; or hospitalize a patient is made by a clinician. Knowledge of treatment assignment could bias the decision. For instance, one option for patients with HF symptoms might be to have the patient take an extra oral diuretic tablet at home, which would not count as an endpoint event. </p></li><li><p>The other problem with using &#8220;HF hospitalization&#8221; is that older patients can be admitted to the hospital for many reasons. The authors don&#8217;t report total hospitalizations, so we can&#8217;t know whether reducing HF hospitalizations reduces the burden of healthcare. </p></li></ul><p>My main criticism however is the basic idea of the trial. We know that SGLT2i drugs are fairly potent diuretic drugs&#8212;which means they pull fluid from the body, via the kidneys. </p><p>I argue in the column that you could give an SGLT2i drug to <em>any </em>patient after <em>any</em> cardiac procedure and it would likely lead to fewer &#8220;HF events&#8221;. They used TAVI in the study, but it could be after an ablation, stent or bypass surgery. </p><p>DapaTAVI therefore should not be used to expand the indication for SGLT2i drugs. Yet more than 40 news outlets covered the trial, nearly all with positive headlines. </p><div><hr></div><p>The <a href="http://10.1016/S0140-6736(25)00509-4">STRIDE</a> trial was worse. This was an industry-sponsored and -run trial of semaglutide vs placebo in patients with peripheral artery disease who have claudication (pain in the muscle with exercise due to inadequate blood supply.) </p><p>The authors measured walking time on a treadmill as a primary endpoint. As most of you can imagine, walking time on treadmill is highly susceptible to coaching and motivation. Who hasn&#8217;t run an extra 400 with prompting? Proper blinding is mandatory with such an endpoint. </p><p>And herein lies the fatal flaw of the study. Patients on semaglutide will surely know they are on it; they lose weight, have easy satiety, and often nausea. </p><p>The difference in walking time was modest. Not even a 100 feet more compared to placebo. Yet it reached statistical significance, rendering STRIDE a positive study and publication in the influential LANCET journal. </p><p>The increase in walking time is similar to the old and generic drug cilostazol. Yet more than 35 news outlets covered the trial with positive headlines. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!D04B!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fde42a074-2c2b-4d25-9179-8eb373327fd0_1546x314.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!D04B!, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/w_424, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fde42a074-2c2b-4d25-9179-8eb373327fd0_1546x314.png 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!D04B!, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/w_848, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fde42a074-2c2b-4d25-9179-8eb373327fd0_1546x314.png 848w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!D04B!, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/w_1272, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fde42a074-2c2b-4d25-9179-8eb373327fd0_1546x314.png 1272w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!D04B!, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/w_1456, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fde42a074-2c2b-4d25-9179-8eb373327fd0_1546x314.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!D04B!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fde42a074-2c2b-4d25-9179-8eb373327fd0_1546x314.png" width="1456" height="296" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/de42a074-2c2b-4d25-9179-8eb373327fd0_1546x314.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:296,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:83921,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://johnmandrola.substack.com/i/161175470?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fde42a074-2c2b-4d25-9179-8eb373327fd0_1546x314.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!D04B!, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/w_424, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fde42a074-2c2b-4d25-9179-8eb373327fd0_1546x314.png 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!D04B!, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/w_848, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fde42a074-2c2b-4d25-9179-8eb373327fd0_1546x314.png 848w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!D04B!, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/w_1272, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fde42a074-2c2b-4d25-9179-8eb373327fd0_1546x314.png 1272w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!D04B!, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/w_1456, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fde42a074-2c2b-4d25-9179-8eb373327fd0_1546x314.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Yet the modest increase in exercise time on semaglutide could have been due to placebo effect. One way to know if there is unblinding in a trial would be a simple blinding test. This was not done in STRIDE. </p><p><strong>Conclusion:</strong></p><p>Evidence-based practice relies on clinical trials. I laud investigators who do trials. </p><p>Yet it saddens me that trials-designed-to-be-positive make it to the big stage of a meeting and garner publication in major medical journals. </p><p>The upstream causes of this problem are complex. One cause is surely profit motive. STRIDE is a good example of an industry-designed trial made to expand an indication for their drug. In my opinion, it does not get reach that level. </p><p>The Spanish government funded DapaTAVI. Here, the upstream problem involves doing trials that deliver positive results. I would have bet a lot on DapaTAVI being positive. When it comes back modestly positive only for a subjective bias-prone endpoint, medical science is not advanced. </p><p>I don&#8217;t have a solution to this problem&#8212;other than to sharpen critical appraisal skills so as not to be bamboozled.  </p><p>JMM </p><div class="captioned-button-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://johnmandrola.substack.com/p/trials-that-attempt-to-expand-treatment?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="CaptionedButtonToDOM"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Stop and Think ! This post is public so feel free to share it.</p></div><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://johnmandrola.substack.com/p/trials-that-attempt-to-expand-treatment?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/p/trials-that-attempt-to-expand-treatment?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p></div><p></p><p></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Big Weekend Coming Up in Cardiology ]]></title><description><![CDATA[The American College of Cardiology will meet in Chicago this weekend.]]></description><link>https://johnmandrola.substack.com/p/big-weekend-coming-up-in-cardiology</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://johnmandrola.substack.com/p/big-weekend-coming-up-in-cardiology</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[John Mandrola]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2025 11:39:46 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zWkb!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe3152b38-a6a0-4bec-aba9-7cbe58b92acd_1640x436.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The American College of Cardiology will meet in Chicago this weekend. The European Heart Rhythm Association gathers in Vienna. </p><p>Since I was invited to EHRA, I leave for Vienna on Friday. I don&#8217;t like that the meetings conflict, but I am a heart rhythm doctor first, and a cardiologist second. </p><p>ACC always features important trials. I will cover these in spoken form on the <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/this-week-in-cardiology/id991125169">This Week in Cardiology podcast</a> and in written form at <a href="https://www.medscape.com/index/section_10325_0">TheHeart.org | Medscape Cardiology</a>. Surely one or two will make the Study of the Week over at <a href="https://www.sensible-med.com/">Sensible Medicine</a>. </p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://johnmandrola.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Stop and Think  is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p>I did write my usual <a href="https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/mandrolas-5-trials-look-2025-american-college-cardiology-2025a10006zu">ACC preview column</a>. Much like I choose studies for the podcast, here I simply pick the 5 trials that interest me most. It&#8217;s a highly biased selection. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zWkb!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe3152b38-a6a0-4bec-aba9-7cbe58b92acd_1640x436.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zWkb!, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/w_424, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe3152b38-a6a0-4bec-aba9-7cbe58b92acd_1640x436.png 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zWkb!, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/w_848, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/c_limit, 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8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>A notable observation comes in comparing the first two late-breaking trials at ACC. One trial seeks to understand a common but mysterious condition. The second trial seeks to expand an indication for an expensive drug. I called it science vs marketing. </p><div><hr></div><p>Stay tuned. I will be active on X and writing a lot in the coming weeks. If you are in Vienna, please do say hi. </p><p>Two more things: this Friday, on TWICPodcast, I will discuss one of my favorite biases&#8212;collider bias. Collider bias is the great explainer of nearly every purported paradox in cardiology. Teaser: despite hundreds of articles in the medical literature there is no such thing as the obesity or smoker&#8217;s paradox. </p><p>Finally, congratulations to Professors Jay Bhattacharya and Marty Makary on being confirmed as NIH director and FDA commissioner. Both were voices of reason during the pandemic. I look forward to a new chapter in medical science and regulation. </p><div><hr></div><p><em><strong>As always, thank you for the support. I do have fun writing and thinking about medical science. JMM </strong></em></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://johnmandrola.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[A New Proposal for AF studies: Jettison the "Blanking Period" ]]></title><description><![CDATA[Since the beginning of AF ablation 20 years ago, studies have used a 90-day blanking period after the procedure where AF episodes do not count. It is not right.]]></description><link>https://johnmandrola.substack.com/p/a-new-proposal-for-af-studies-jettison</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://johnmandrola.substack.com/p/a-new-proposal-for-af-studies-jettison</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[John Mandrola]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2025 12:55:39 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!myw3!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbc0f81dd-5283-40ff-8365-0a18d1658559_1266x728.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I presented Friday at the Western AF symposium. Program director Nassir Marrouche usually asks me to present something provocative. </p><p>My session assignment this year was a roundtable on the management of AF during the &#8220;blanking period&#8221; after ablation. </p><p>I took the opportunity to propose eliminating the blanking period. </p><p>I give credit for this idea to Drs. Mohammed Ruzieh and Andrew Foy. We recently wrote together in the <em>American Heart Journal Open</em> in favor of jettisoning the blanking period after AF ablation. We titled our piece <a href="https://doi.org/10.1016/j.ahjo.2024.100497">Patients&#8217; Lives Don&#8217;t Pause for the Blanking Period. </a></p><p>I also have a <a href="https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/are-we-inflating-success-rate-af-ablation-2025a10004v9">Medscape piece</a> up on our argument as well. </p><p>My proposal at Western AF was not well-received. A few commenters agreed but most argued that we should still have a period of time after AF ablation where recurrences don&#8217;t count. </p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://johnmandrola.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Stop and Think  is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p>Let me tell you how the blanking period got established and then the reasons Ruzieh, Foy and I think it is wrong think. </p><p><strong>Background </strong></p><p>Much like cardiac surgery causes AF in the weeks post-op because of injury and inflammation, thermal lesions given in the left atrium during the ablation could also stir up arrhythmia. At least that is the theory. </p><p>My field came to the conclusion that some cases of AF in the weeks after ablation were not a failure of the procedure (due either to a wrong target or pulmonary vein reconnection from inadequate lesions) but rather inflammation that would subside with time. In fact, some early cases of AF never recur. </p><p>The challenge was that having AF in the blanking period greatly increased the probability of late recurrence of AF (procedural failure) but the correlation was not perfect. </p><p>The fact that some early AF resolve gave rise to the blanking period. Then it became ensconced. As if the sky is blue and we have blanking periods after ablation. </p><p>Blanking periods were also self-serving for ablation proponents. Because, In trials of ablation vs drugs, the ablation arm got a free ride for 90 days. </p><h4>Reasons for Eliminating the Blanking Period</h4><p><strong>Reason 1</strong>: The blanking period falsely elevates our perceived success rate of AF ablation. A Vancouver-led group recently <a href="https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIRCEP.124.013232">re-analyzed </a>an ablation trial called Circa-Dose and found that shortening the blanking period from 12 to 8 weeks dropped the success rate of AF ablation by a statistically significant 5% (from 55% to 50%). Other papers have replicated this observation. </p><p>But you hardly need empirical studies, right? AF recurrences in the blanking period are common. Not counting episodes favors the ablation arm of studies. </p><p><strong>Reason 2</strong>: No other areas of cardiology have such a blanking period. </p><p>At Western AF, I showed the example of the <a href="https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1915922">ISCHEMIA trial</a> of delayed vs invasive strategies for patients who have positive stress tests. The main composite endpoint of the ISCHEMIA trial was not significantly different with either of the two strategies but controversy ensued over the rate of MI, which was one of the components of the composite primary endpoint. </p><p>For the primary endpoint, <em>all</em> MIs were counted, including those occurring immediately after the stent procedure. This comparison found no differences. </p><p>A secondary endpoint of non-procedural-related MI (see image) found that not counting MIs from the stent procedure resulted in the invasive arm having a 33% lower rate of MI. IOW, adding a blanking period in the ISCHEMIA trial led to fewer MIs. (But of course, patients cannot exclude an MI because it occurs after a procedure.)</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!myw3!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbc0f81dd-5283-40ff-8365-0a18d1658559_1266x728.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!myw3!, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/w_424, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbc0f81dd-5283-40ff-8365-0a18d1658559_1266x728.png 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!myw3!, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/w_848, 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appendage closure plus AF ablation vs oral anticoagulation after AF ablation. </p><p>Here, the primary safety endpoint (bleeding) was found to be superior in the left atrial appendage closure arm. But, the trialists designated the safety endpoint to <em>exclude </em>bleeding at the time of the procedure (e.g. a blanking period). A secondary endpoint of all bleeding found similar rates. IOW, without the blanking period, there was no advantage to the appendage closure device. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1awP!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe1476494-7c26-4471-857a-41323c3ec635_1952x790.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1awP!, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/w_424, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe1476494-7c26-4471-857a-41323c3ec635_1952x790.png 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1awP!, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/w_848, 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Pulsed field ablation (PFA) uses electrical energy rather than thermal energy. PFA is also delivered through bigger multipole catheters. It&#8217;s faster, safer and likely leads to more durable ablation. </p><p>Why is that important? Because a recurrence of AF after PFA ablation more likely implicates a wrong target problem rather than a recurrence of conduction through the line of block that we attempt to create with point-to-point RF or cryoballoon ablation. </p><p>A recent <a href="https://doi.org/10.1016/j.hrthm.2024.08.011">study</a> supports this notion. After reviewing more than 300 cases, investigators found that any AF that occurred more than 4 weeks after a PFA ablation was 100% predictive of more recurrences and a failed procedure. </p><p><strong>Conclusions</strong></p><p>It no longer makes sense to have a blanking period after AF ablation. A patient admitted to the hospital for AF one week after an ablation surely feels this negative outcome should count. </p><p>Of course, the caveat I offered the Western AF audience was that doctors have two mindsets. (We wear two hats if you will.) </p><p>One hat is our science or evidence hat. Here, we should surely count all AF episodes because it is the proper way to evaluate outcomes in studies. All AF counts for the patient and it should count in trials. </p><p>Doctors also must be clinicians and use judgement. Not having a blanking period does not mean that we need to take patients back for second ablations after an early recurrence. We can Stop and Think, and assess each patient and their specific situation. A blanking period should not obstruct clear thinking. </p><p></p><p></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Great stuff over at Sensible Medicine and Cardiology Trials ]]></title><description><![CDATA[We featured today a guest post from Dr.]]></description><link>https://johnmandrola.substack.com/p/great-stuff-over-at-sensible-medicine</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://johnmandrola.substack.com/p/great-stuff-over-at-sensible-medicine</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[John Mandrola]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 04 Feb 2025 12:32:23 GMT</pubDate><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We featured today a <a href="https://www.sensible-med.com/p/a-plan-to-refocus-primary-care">guest post</a> from Dr. Kuma Folmsbee on saving primary care. I loved it because it centered on the core mission of doctoring: helping people who are asking for our help. Medicine excels when we treat illness. Medicine is much trickier when we try to help people who complain of nothing. </p><p>We also had a <a href="https://www.sensible-med.com/p/rfk-jr-hearings-eulogy-values-and">podcast discussion</a> about the MAHA movement and other things. I do love talking with Adam and Vinay. </p><p>Yesterday, I <a href="https://www.sensible-med.com/p/a-review-of-the-newly-approved-novel">wrote</a> about the new non-opioid pain reliever suzetrigine. While there is a huge unmet need for non-opioid pain relief, the actual evidence is underwhelming.</p><p>And, of course, Andrew Foy, Muhammed Ruzieh, and my quest to chronicle the seminal trials in cardiology continues over at <a href="/__u/cardiologytrials.substack.com/">CardiologyTrials</a> Substack.   </p><p>Thanks for reading and supporting our work. </p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://johnmandrola.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Stop and Think  is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Thoughts on the MAHA Movement ]]></title><description><![CDATA[Robert F Kennedy, Jr will face confirmation hearings today.]]></description><link>https://johnmandrola.substack.com/p/thoughts-on-the-maha-movement</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://johnmandrola.substack.com/p/thoughts-on-the-maha-movement</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[John Mandrola]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 29 Jan 2025 13:43:07 GMT</pubDate><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert F Kennedy, Jr will face confirmation hearings today. Health will be in the news. </p><p>I want to write a few things about the MAHA movement. There is much to be happy about, but there are areas to clarify. </p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://johnmandrola.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Stop and Think  is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p>I have long advocated for healthy living measures&#8212;especially for our children. There should be more physical activity in school. I also favor policy changes that would bring back walkable neighborhoods. Long lines of cars dropping children off at schools is an American blemish. I hope MAHA helps improves this. </p><p>Our food supply could also be improved. When I counsel patients about weight loss, the most common recommendation is to reduce processed food and sugary drinks. There will never be agreement on the &#8220;healthiest&#8221; diet, but clearly it is best to eat real food. </p><p>MAHA blames big Ag for the obesity crisis. They use the term <em>toxicity </em>and <em>poisoning</em>. The more nuanced, less sexy, approach to toxicity and poison is dose. Water is toxic at high doses. </p><p>Processed food is not toxic nor is it poison at small doses&#8212;say at a Super Bowl party. The problem with processed food is dosage. I advocate removing it from schools&#8212;along with soft drinks. But it&#8217;s soft thinking to place blame on processed food. It&#8217;s fine to eat processed food once in awhile. In small doses. </p><p>There will also be talk about the &#8220;medical-industrial complex&#8221; and how it conspires to make us sick&#8230;for profits. Again, there is partial truth here. </p><p>I have long argued that the medical profession over-diagnoses and over-treats people. We lower disease thresholds so that normal people now have pre-diabetes or pre-heart failure. This is dumb. I am against it. </p><p>I am also against low-value interventions, of which there are too many. Expensive drugs when there are generics; procedures that are poorly vetted by evidence are much too common. </p><p>It is one thing to use GLP1a drugs to reduce diabetes and obesity in a 65-year-old patient; it is yet another to give these drugs to overweight children. The former use has solid evidence; the latter has zero evidence. </p><p>Low-value care has many causes. MAHA persuades us that it is all due to nefarious profit-driven actors in industry and the medical profession. This, too, is soft thinking. </p><p>Low-value care exists in cost-constrained systems as well. Non-nefarious causes of low-value care include patient demand and lack of critical appraisal skills amongst doctors. </p><p>For instance, tech titans think they can outsmart disease with expensive tests, scans and supplements. That idea&#8212;of cheating disease&#8212;is pervasive. It&#8217;s why so many people accept screening programs, which have a dubious evidentiary basis. </p><p>In other words, in the Thomas Sowell framing, many people are unconstrained thinkers when it comes to disease prevention. More is better. All is modifiable. Constrained thinking about healthcare has no cheering section. Unconstrained thinking provides a tailwind for low-value care. </p><p>Finally, my strongest opposition to the MAHA movement is their framing of industry and doctors as sinister. This is also soft thinking. Thinking of industry as sinister is like being mad when it rains. </p><p>Industry has one job: make products that make profits. Industry and innovation has helped transform medicine into a much better place. In my field, patients with heart rhythm disorders have benefited greatly from industry-led innovations. Of course these companies have made a profit. </p><p>Cancer care has also hugely advanced. Industry innovation has transformed once deadly diseases to chronic conditions. Patients having an MI (heart attack) now often go home the next day with no heart damage and a band-aid on their wrist. This too is due to industry-MD collaboration in which money was made. </p><p>While there is occasional fraud, the much larger problem with industry stems from weaknesses in critical appraisal. We are a rapturous audience. Doctors are too easily bamboozled. That lack of critical appraisal is on us&#8212;not industry. </p><p>While I don&#8217;t advocate deceptive marketing, imagine a world where doctors were far more skeptical and less easily bamboozled. </p><p>The goal of this Substack, as well as <a href="https://www.sensible-med.com/">Sensible Medicine</a> and <a href="/__u/cardiologytrials.substack.com/">CardiologyTrials</a> is to bring robust non-cynical critical appraisal in the public sphere. </p><p>Profits from innovation should not be discouraged. The answer is not to demonize those who innovate, but rather to have the strength of mind to critically appraise evidence.</p><p>I hope the MAHA movement promotes the value of strong thinking. Because this would improve much of what ails US healthcare. </p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://johnmandrola.substack.com/p/thoughts-on-the-maha-movement?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/p/thoughts-on-the-maha-movement?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><p></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Future of Medical Information ]]></title><description><![CDATA[Perhaps we are at an inflection point for the dissemination of medical information]]></description><link>https://johnmandrola.substack.com/p/the-future-of-medical-information</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://johnmandrola.substack.com/p/the-future-of-medical-information</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[John Mandrola]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 02 Jan 2025 10:02:05 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cxAH!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F78ca438e-3d7d-4615-a8c1-c89eecf97616_1166x1620.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take a look at this <a href="https://x.com/ehlJAMA/status/1874278668228595863">post</a> from Dr. Ed Livingston, a UCLA professor and former deputy editor of JAMA. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cxAH!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F78ca438e-3d7d-4615-a8c1-c89eecf97616_1166x1620.png" 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/__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/w_1456, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F78ca438e-3d7d-4615-a8c1-c89eecf97616_1166x1620.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><blockquote><p>&#8220;The legacy journals are dying&#8230;&#8221; </p><p>&#8220;Blogs like Sensible Medicine are the future.&#8221; </p></blockquote><p>I hope he is right; but I am not so sure. Here is a screenshot of an <a href="https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIRCOUTCOMES.115.002415">editorial</a> from Dr. Harlan Krumholz, an academic cardiologist at Yale. He wrote this in 2017 when he finished his tenure as editor-in-chief of <em>Circulation: CV Quality and Outcomes</em>. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gNGK!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff9dbc947-f9ed-4259-85ad-6c4d84ce5e70_1426x486.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gNGK!, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/w_424, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff9dbc947-f9ed-4259-85ad-6c4d84ce5e70_1426x486.png 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gNGK!, 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/__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/w_1456, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff9dbc947-f9ed-4259-85ad-6c4d84ce5e70_1426x486.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 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He wrote that they were too slow, too expensive, too limited, too unreliable, too focused on the wrong metrics, too parochial, too static and too powerful. </p><p>Seven years have passed from that essay. You know what Dr. Krumholz does now? </p><p>He is editor-in-chief of JACC&#8212;the biggest cardiology journal. Grin. </p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://johnmandrola.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/johnmandrola.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><div><hr></div><h4>My Diagnosis</h4><p>Ten years ago, as a hobby, instead of bike racing, I started writing, and now podcasting, about medical studies. I&#8217;ve also co-authored more than 70 academic papers and peer-reviewed many more. </p><p>My diagnosis: the dissemination of medical evidence is a mess. In fact, I think we have regressed in the last decade. </p><p>Every Tuesday, I start searching for studies to discuss in my <a href="https://www.medscape.com/index/list_10295_0">This Week in Cardiology podcast.</a> During the weeks of big medical meetings, it&#8217;s easy to find studies to discuss. It&#8217;s not that easy during the weeks between meetings. </p><p>The thing is&#8230;journals publish the same number of studies every week. Which means that many, if not most, of these studies contribute little or zero to medical progress. Typical examples of pointless studies: small underpowered trials, single-center case series, or, the worst, observational non-random comparisons, which are hopelessly marred by confounding biases. </p><p>I ask myself: why would the authors spend time on such a project? The time commitment is massive; not only to do the grunt work of data collection and writing, but then submitting the paper to the journal, withstanding the many rejections, and answering numerous peer reviewer queries. </p><p>If the paper describes a new observation or important trial results, then, yes, it is worth it. I estimate that less than 10% of published papers fulfill this worthiness category. Yet it continues, week in and week out. </p><p>I think of a young learner putting in these hours to get a publication and it makes me sad. The reason trainees do this is to get a better training or faculty position&#8212;at a branded institution. It&#8217;s especially sad that being a dedicated clinical trainee is not enough. </p><p>But now, looking back after nearly three decades of practice, and one decade of academic work, I am convinced this time would be better spent doing any number of other things. Things like learning to be a better doctor, training for a marathon, reading non-medical books or working on writing or public speaking would be better than first-authoring a paper that does not increase medical knowledge. </p><div><hr></div><h4>An Inflection Point</h4><p>Dr. Krumholz and Livingston highlight the reasons Vinay, Adam and I started <a href="https://www.sensible-med.com/">Sensible Medicine</a>. It&#8217;s why Andrew Foy, Muhammed Ruzieh and I chronicle the seminal trials over at <a href="/__u/cardiologytrials.substack.com/">Cardiology Trials</a>. </p><p>We recognized that medical people had almost no where to go get an independent point of view.  </p><p>Indeed, Krumholz was most right about journals being parochial. The reason is obvious: the business model of journals is advertising. Industry supports medical publishing. So it&#8217;s impossible to publish an editorial exposing the flaws of an industry-supported study. Sure, a few carefully worded critical sentences are allowed, but that is it. </p><p>Proponents of medical journals will cite their gate-keeping role. Editorial judging and peer-review prevents the dissemination of bad science. You can&#8217;t just publish a preprint and let the public decide, goes the thinking. Grin. Do not <a href="https://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2021/02/01/richard-smith-peer-reviewers-time-for-mass-rebellion/">read Richard Smith,</a> the former editor of the BMJ. </p><p>Medical meetings are worse. When late-breaking trials are presented, the discussant spends most of their time congratulating the authors&#8212;even if the trial was designed as <a href="https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/989105">marketing rather than science</a>. </p><p>Social media used to be a place to find critical appraisal. No more. Now the key opinion leaders, the <em>Top People</em>, are there to thwart anyone who dare question a trialist&#8217;s choice of comparator or endpoint. One of the most influential doctors in the US referred to anyone who speaks up as the &#8220;<a href="https://33charts.com/robert-califf-peanut-gallery/">peanut gallery.</a>&#8221; </p><p>Together, these forces keep medical evidence inside the metaphorical gates. I&#8217;ve heard Eric Weinstein refer to this as the GIN, or the <em>gated institutional narrative</em>. Left atrial appendage occlusion, tricuspid valve clipping, and ARNI drugs all provide benefit. Period. Stop asking questions. But outside the gates of the institution, people-without-conflicts look at these trials and think&#8230;really? </p><p>Thinking outside the gates is what this newsletter is for. It&#8217;s our goal at Sensible Medicine and Cardiology Trials. </p><p>Independent medical appraisal is at a severe disadvantage. We can&#8217;t offer people a prominent position at an academic medical center; nor can we expect people to attend a medical meeting focused on critical appraisal. </p><p>But perhaps the Internet and the reader-supported model gives us a chance. For instance, a handful of journalists have broken from their legacy positions to become a powerful voice. The <a href="https://www.thefp.com/">Free Press</a>, <a href="https://www.racket.news/">Racket News</a>, <a href="https://www.slowboring.com/">Slow and Boring</a> and <a href="https://www.natesilver.net/">Silver Bulletin</a> have made their mark. <a href="https://marginalrevolution.com/">Marginal Revolution</a> has been there even longer. </p><p>That&#8217;s our goal too: to put critical and independent thinking out there&#8212;as normal. We give permission to be skeptical but not cynical about medical practice. </p><p>There has to be a place for such thinking. For now, it is on Substack and podcasts. </p><div><hr></div><p><em><strong>Thanks for your support. Happy New Year. May the next year be one of clear thinking. JMM </strong></em></p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://johnmandrola.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Stop and Think  is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Thank You ]]></title><description><![CDATA[Just a short note to say thank you to those who follow this Substack.]]></description><link>https://johnmandrola.substack.com/p/thank-you</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://johnmandrola.substack.com/p/thank-you</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[John Mandrola]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 28 Nov 2024 11:45:12 GMT</pubDate><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a short note to say thank you to those who follow this Substack.  I am grateful to have readers. </p><p>It&#8217;s Thanksgiving here and it is nice that my brain gets a holiday. </p><p>Peace be with you all. JMM</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://johnmandrola.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Stop and Think  is a reader-supported publication. 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