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mandat le moins cher de France &#224; ma connaissance, vous b&#233;n&#233;ficierez pendant 12 mois d&#8217;une remise de 40% sur les frais d&#8217;assurance et de gestion (qui sont de 0,67%), sur un montant maximum de 15.000 euros et sous r&#233;serve d&#8217;un versement initial minimum de 500 euros. Je b&#233;n&#233;ficierai alors de la m&#234;me remise sur les frais de mon propre contrat Indexa Vie Spirica.</em></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://indexacapital.com/t/b7IWO8&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:&quot;button-wrapper&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary button-wrapper" href="https://indexacapital.com/t/b7IWO8"><span>D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica</span></a></p><div><hr></div><p>Et pourtant, les d&#233;buts du premier fonds indiciel destin&#233; au grand public de l&#8217;histoire &#8212; son nom &#233;tait alors First Index Investment Trust, le fonds s&#8217;appelle aujourd&#8217;hui Vanguard 500 Index Fund &#8212; furent poussifs.</p><p>Tr&#232;s poussifs.</p><p>A tel point que Jack Bogle, le fondateur de Vanguard, qualifia ce lancement d&#8217;&#8221;&#233;chec cuisant&#8221;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a>.</p><p>Je rappelle qu&#8217;avant ao&#251;t 1976, tous les fonds actions &#233;taient g&#233;r&#233;s activement. Ils avaient des frais de gestion &#233;lev&#233;s et cherchaient &#224; faire mieux que le march&#233;, repr&#233;sent&#233; par un indice de r&#233;f&#233;rence comme le S&amp;P 500 pour les grandes valeurs &#233;tatsuniennes.</p><p>Jack Bogle, qui &#233;tait un des dirigeants de Wellington, une des grandes soci&#233;t&#233;s de gestion de l&#8217;&#233;poque, avait &#233;t&#233; mis sur la touche suite &#224; une fusion d&#233;sastreuse avec un concurrent.</p><p>La seule solution qu&#8217;il avait trouv&#233;e pour rester dans le circuit de la gestion d&#8217;actifs &#233;tait de cr&#233;er une structure mutualiste faisant de la <em>non gestion</em>, &#224; savoir de la gestion indicielle, ou passive. Il obtint ainsi le feu vert de ses anciens associ&#233;s au sein de Wellington, qui ne voyaient pas dans Vanguard une menace.</p><p>Au vu du lancement d&#233;sastreux du premier fonds indiciel grand public<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a>, ils furent sans doute confort&#233;s dans cette opinion : alors que Jack Bogle visait une lev&#233;e de fonds initiale de 150 millions de dollars, elle ne fut que de 11,32 millions de dollars.</p><p>Un montant insuffisant pour pouvoir acheter toutes les valeurs de l&#8217;indice S&amp;P 500 : seules les 200 plus grosses valeurs purent &#234;tre achet&#233;es &#224; proportion de leur poids dans l&#8217;indice, et 80 valeurs servirent &#224; essayer de r&#233;pliquer la performance des 300 autres.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;S'abonner maintenant&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/subscribe"><span>S'abonner maintenant</span></a></p><p>Le fonds First Index Investment Trust ne franchit le seuil des 100 millions de dollars d&#8217;encours qu&#8217;en 1981, en fusionnant avec un fonds plus gros que lui (58 millions de dollars d&#8217;encours) et sous-performant.</p><p>Devenu Vanguard 500 Fund, le pionnier de la gestion indicielle grand public franchit le seuil du milliard de dollars d&#8217;encours en 1988, puis, en avril 2000, devint le plus gros fonds au monde en surpassant Fidelity Magellan.</p><p>Aujourd&#8217;hui, les diff&#233;rentes parts de Vanguard 500 (fonds traditionnel non n&#233;gociable en bourse et ETF) p&#232;sent environ 1 700 milliards de dollars d&#8217;encours.</p><p>Quant aux frais de la part ETF, ils s&#8217;&#233;l&#232;vent &#224; 0,03% par an.</p><p>C&#8217;est-&#224;-dire presque rien.</p><p>La gestion indicielle est probablement la meilleure chose qui soit arriv&#233;e en finance depuis 50 ans pour les investisseurs particuliers.</p><p>Evidemment, les g&#233;rants traditionnels, &#224; savoir actifs, furent sceptiques face &#224; la gestion indicielle d&#232;s le premier jour.</p><p>Lors du lancement de First Index Investment Trust, on parlait aux Etats-Unis de &#8220;Bogle Folly&#8221; (la folie de Bogle).</p><p>Ned Johnson, alors &#224; la t&#234;te de Fidelity, d&#233;clara m&#234;me ceci :</p><blockquote><p>Je ne peux pas croire que la majorit&#233; des investisseurs va se contenter de performances moyennes.</p></blockquote><p>50 ans apr&#232;s l&#8217;&#233;chec du lancement de First Index Investment Trust, la gestion indicielle s&#8217;est impos&#233;e face &#224; la gestion active aux Etats-Unis : &#224; fin juillet, pour les actions Etats-Unis, la part de la gestion indicielle &#233;tait de 67% des encours totaux d&#8217;apr&#232;s Morningstar.</p><p>Pour tous les fonds de long terme, la part de la gestion indicielle &#233;tait de 56% des encours totaux.</p><p>Les investisseurs ont donc majoritairement choisi la gestion indicielle &#224; bas co&#251;ts de l&#8217;autre c&#244;t&#233; de l&#8217;Atlantique.</p><p>En Europe, la part de march&#233; de l'indiciel progresse aussi, mais n&#8217;atteint pas encore le niveau des Etats-Unis. </p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/les-50-ans-dune-idee-de-genie?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Partager&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/les-50-ans-dune-idee-de-genie?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Partager</span></a></p><p>Je rappelle l&#8217;int&#233;r&#234;t de la gestion indicielle &#224; bas co&#251;ts pour s&#8217;exposer &#224; un indice actions tr&#232;s diversifi&#233; (un indice actions monde comme le FTSE Global All-Cap, le MSCI ACWI IMI, le FTSE All-World, le MSCI ACWI ou le MSCI World, un indice actions Europe comme le MSCI Europe le FTSE Developed Europe ou le STOXX Europe 600, un indice actions Etats-Unis comme le S&amp;P 500) :</p><ul><li><p>Des frais tr&#232;s bas</p></li><li><p>Une probabilit&#233; &#233;lev&#233;e de faire mieux qu&#8217;au moins 80% des fonds g&#233;r&#233;s activement sur des dur&#233;es de d&#233;tention sup&#233;rieures &#224; 5 ans</p></li></ul><p>Bien entendu, il existe des g&#233;rants actifs qui battent les fonds indiciels, y compris sur longue dur&#233;e.</p><p>Si vous &#234;tes capable de les identifier <em>&#224; l&#8217;avance</em> avec <em>un niveau de fiabilit&#233; &#233;lev&#233;</em>, n&#8217;h&#233;sitez pas : investissez dans leurs fonds.</p><p>Si vous ne vous en sentez pas capable, un fonds indiciel &#224; faibles frais est sans doute une bonne option.</p><p>Alors que la gestion indicielle f&#234;te ses 50 ans, son &#226;ge d&#8217;or ne fait sans doute que commencer en Europe.</p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>&#8220;Abject failure&#8221;.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Quelques ann&#233;es auparavant, la banque Wells Fargo avait lanc&#233; un produit similaire, qui &#233;tait r&#233;serv&#233; &#224; certains investisseurs institutionnels, comme le fonds de pension de la soci&#233;t&#233; Samsonite.</p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[SpaceX et mon portefeuille]]></title><description><![CDATA[Comment s'exposer au conglom&#233;rat d'Elon Musk ?]]></description><link>https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/spacex-et-mon-portefeuille</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/spacex-et-mon-portefeuille</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Philippe Maupas]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2026 14:02:51 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UAT0!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd52b1a79-a62a-4da9-8b5e-079db5c08b0c_2048x1365.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UAT0!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd52b1a79-a62a-4da9-8b5e-079db5c08b0c_2048x1365.jpeg" 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y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Source de la photo : <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/spacex/50346751973">flickr</a></figcaption></figure></div><p>Si vous vous int&#233;ressez &#224; la bourse, vous savez probablement que SpaceX, une soci&#233;t&#233; cr&#233;&#233;e en 2002 par Elon Musk, projette de s&#8217;introduire le 12 juin sur le Nasdaq via une augmentation de capital.</p><p>A l&#8217;origine, la soci&#233;t&#233; travaillait sur le d&#233;veloppement d&#8217;un lanceur l&#233;ger<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a> capable de mettre de petits satellites en orbite, pour un co&#251;t le plus faible possible.</p><p>Aujourd&#8217;hui, SpaceX ressemble &#224; un conglom&#233;rat avec des th&#233;matiques li&#233;es &#224; l&#8217;espace, une activit&#233; de r&#233;seau social avec X (ex Twitter) et une activit&#233; d&#8217;intelligence artificielle (xAI).</p><p>En mars 2025, xAI a absorb&#233; le r&#233;seau social X. Puis, en f&#233;vrier 2026, SpaceX a absorb&#233; xAI.</p><p>Si les activit&#233;s li&#233;es au spatial (lancements de satellites et exploitation de la constellation de satellites de communication Starlink) sont profitables, les activit&#233;s X et xIA sont tr&#232;s d&#233;ficitaires, en raison d&#8217;investissements massifs.</p><p>Les donn&#233;es de chiffre d&#8217;affaires et de r&#233;sultat sont mentionn&#233;es dans le document pr&#233;liminaire &#224; l&#8217;introduction en bourse (le &#8220;<a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1181412/000162828026036936/spaceexplorationtechnologi.htm#id286866c4c474ba490d6531a57db9e93_54">S-1</a>&#8221;), qui ne fournit pour le moment pas le cours d&#8217;introduction, donc les ratios de valorisation.</p><p>Ces derniers devraient &#234;tre stratosph&#233;riques<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a>.</p><p>J&#8217;ai lu le <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1181412/000162828026036936/spaceexplorationtechnologi.htm#id286866c4c474ba490d6531a57db9e93_54">S-1</a>, la gouvernance de la soci&#233;t&#233; est &#233;pouvantable et les ratios de valorisation seront tr&#232;s &#233;lev&#233;s, mais ce n&#8217;est pas le propos de ce billet.</p><p>Je pr&#233;cise que <em>rien </em>dans cet article ne constitue un conseil d&#8217;investissement. </p><p>Si vous d&#233;cidez d&#8217;investir dans les actions SpaceX, faites vos propres diligences.</p><p>Comment SpaceX se retrouvera dans les portefeuilles des investisseurs une fois l&#8217;introduction en bourse effectu&#233;e ?</p><div><hr></div><p><em>J&#8217;exprime toute ma gratitude &#224; <a href="https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ">Indexa Capital</a> qui renouvelle de mai 2026 &#224; avril 2027 son soutien financier &#224; L&#8217;Odyss&#233;e des Placements.</em></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 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y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>En souscrivant <a href="https://indexacapital.com/t/b7IWO8">via ce lien</a> &#224; Indexa Vie Spirica, le contrat d&#8217;assurance vie en gestion sous mandat le moins cher de France &#224; ma connaissance, vous b&#233;n&#233;ficierez pendant 12 mois d&#8217;une remise de 40% sur les frais d&#8217;assurance et de gestion (qui sont de 0,67%), sur un montant maximum de 15.000 euros et sous r&#233;serve d&#8217;un versement initial minimum de 500 euros. Je b&#233;n&#233;ficierai alors de la m&#234;me remise sur les frais de mon propre contrat Indexa Vie Spirica.</em></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://indexacapital.com/t/b7IWO8&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:&quot;button-wrapper&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary button-wrapper" href="https://indexacapital.com/t/b7IWO8"><span>D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica</span></a></p><div><hr></div><h3>En achetant directement l&#8217;action</h3><p>Si votre interm&#233;diaire vous donne acc&#232;s aux march&#233;s d&#8217;actions &#233;tats-uniens, et notamment au Nasdaq, vous pourrez investir dans SpaceX via votre compte-titres ordinaire.</p><p>Si vous voulez b&#233;n&#233;ficier du cours d&#8217;introduction<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a>, il vous faudra passer un ordre d&#8217;achat avant l&#8217;introduction en bourse. Si la demande est sup&#233;rieure &#224; l&#8217;offre, vous ne recevrez pas la totalit&#233; des actions demand&#233;es, voire rien du tout.</p><p>Vous pourrez aussi acheter les actions sur le march&#233;, dont le cours ob&#233;ira &#224; la loi de l&#8217;offre et de la demande. Vous paierez des frais de courtage et le cas &#233;ch&#233;ant des droits de garde.</p><p>Si vous r&#233;alisez des plus-values, elles ne seront pas impos&#233;es aux Etats-Unis, mais en France<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a>.</p><p>Si vous percevez des dividendes<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a>, le fisc &#233;tats-unien appliquera une retenue &#224; la source de 30%, ou de 15% si vous remplissez le formulaire W-8BEN et le transmettez &#224; votre courtier avant le d&#233;tachement des dividendes. <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-6" href="#footnote-6" target="_self">6</a> </p><p>La convention fiscale entre la France et les Etats-Unis permet d&#8217;&#233;viter une double imposition des dividendes.</p><p>Consultez un fiscaliste, je n&#8217;en suis pas un.</p><h3>En achetant un fonds actif qui <em>choisira </em>d&#8217;investir dans SpaceX</h3><p>De nombreux fonds actions ou mixtes (investissant &#224; la fois dans des actions et des obligations) g&#233;r&#233;s activement sont <em>susceptibles </em>d&#8217;investir dans SpaceX.</p><p>Cette d&#233;cision d&#8217;investissement est &#224; la discr&#233;tion de l&#8217;&#233;quipe de gestion.</p><p>Sont concern&#233;s les fonds actions investissant dans le monde entier, ou en actions Etats-Unis, ou en actions sectorielles, d&#232;s lors que l&#8217;&#233;quipe de gestion consid&#232;re que les activit&#233;s de SpaceX appartiennent au(x) secteur(s) dans lesquels le fonds investit.</p><p>Et les fonds mixtes pouvant investir une partie de leur poche actions en valeurs &#233;tats-uniennes.</p><p>La vente ob&#233;it &#224; la m&#234;me r&#232;gle que l&#8217;achat : c&#8217;est l&#8217;&#233;quipe de gestion qui d&#233;cide.</p><p>Et cela, l&#8217;investisseur ne peut pas le savoir &#224; l&#8217;avance.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Abonnez-vous maintenant&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Abonnez-vous maintenant</span></a></p><h3>En achetant un fonds indiciel qui <em>devra </em>investir dans SpaceX</h3><p>Le premier article d&#8217;une s&#233;rie en cours sur les indices est <a href="/__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/plongee-dans-le-monde-des-indices">ici</a>.</p><p>Un fonds indiciel actions a pour vocation de r&#233;pliquer la performance d&#8217;un indice. D&#232;s lors qu&#8217;une nouvelle valeur fait son entr&#233;e dans cet indice, il doit l&#8217;acheter aussi rapidement que possible pour coller &#224; sa composition.</p><p>Les principaux fournisseurs d&#8217;indices ont fait &#233;voluer leur m&#233;thodologie pour permettre l&#8217;entr&#233;e rapide de SpaceX dans leurs diff&#233;rents produits.</p><p>Le principal obstacle concernait le flottant mis en bourse, &#224; savoir la part du capital total. Un flottant minimum de 10% du capital &#233;tait g&#233;n&#233;ralement requis, mais SpaceX ayant annonc&#233; vouloir ne mettre en bourse que 5% de son capital, les grands fournisseurs d&#8217;indices, apr&#232;s avoir consult&#233; les parties prenantes, ont abaiss&#233; ce seuil<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-7" href="#footnote-7" target="_self">7</a> pour permettre l&#8217;entr&#233;e de la soci&#233;t&#233;.</p><p>Deuxi&#232;me obstacle, celui de la p&#233;riode d&#8217;attente entre l&#8217;introduction en bourse et l&#8217;entr&#233;e effective de la valeur dans les indices. Jusque-l&#224;, cette p&#233;riode &#233;tait assez longue.</p><p>Le Nasdaq, qui est &#224; la fois une bourse et un fournisseur d&#8217;indices (le Nasdaq-100) a d&#233;gain&#233; le premier. Il fallait jusqu&#8217;&#224; fin avril attendre la reconstitution annuelle de l&#8217;indice pour l&#8217;int&#233;grer. Depuis le 1er mai, c&#8217;est possible apr&#232;s 15 jours de cotation.</p><p>FTSE Russell a fait encore mieux : une valeur &#233;ligible peut dor&#233;navant entrer dans un de ses indices<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-8" href="#footnote-8" target="_self">8</a> apr&#232;s seulement&#8230; cinq jours de cotation, contre un &#224; trois mois auparavant.</p><p>S&amp;P DJ Indices, le concepteur du tr&#232;s populaire indice S&amp;P 500, a &#233;galement modifi&#233; sa m&#233;thodologie pour permettre une entr&#233;e rapide des valeurs dans ses indices.</p><p>Notamment en proposant la suppression de ce qui la distinguait de ses concurrents, &#224; savoir une obligation d&#8217;avoir d&#233;livr&#233; des b&#233;n&#233;fices cumul&#233;s positifs lors des quatre derniers trimestres, condition &#224; laquelle SpaceX ne satisfait pas.</p><p>Et en proposant de r&#233;duire de 12 &#224; six mois la dur&#233;e minimum de pr&#233;sence en boutse pour entrer dans les indices<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-9" href="#footnote-9" target="_self">9</a>.</p><p>Chez MSCI, un autre tr&#232;s important fournisseur d&#8217;indices, une proc&#233;dure d&#8217;inclusion rapide (&#8220;Fast entry&#8221;) a &#233;t&#233; mise en place d&#232;s 2002. Les valeurs &#233;ligibles peuvent entrer dans les indices entre 5 et 10 jours apr&#232;s leur introduction en bourse.</p><p>Tous les fonds indiciels r&#233;pliquant un indice actions contenant des grandes capitalisations &#233;tats-uniennes vont donc <em>devoir </em>acheter SpaceX plus ou moins rapidement : les fonds indiciels actions Etats-Unis, les fonds indiciels actions monde, les fonds indiciels actions sectorielles pertinents.</p><p>Encore une fois, car on n&#8217;est jamais trop prudent : <em>rien </em>dans cet article ne constitue un conseil d&#8217;investissement. </p><p>Si vous d&#233;cidez d&#8217;investir dans SpaceX, faites vos propres diligences.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/spacex-et-mon-portefeuille?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Partager&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/spacex-et-mon-portefeuille?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Partager</span></a></p><p>  </p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Le Falcon.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>On parle de 100 fois le dernier chiffre d&#8217;affaires annuel, ce qui est faramineux. Parmi les soci&#233;t&#233;s cot&#233;es, seule la soci&#233;t&#233; Palantir a un ratio valorisation/chiffre d&#8217;affaires similaire.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Dont je rappelle qu&#8217;il n&#8217;est pas connu &#224; la date de r&#233;daction de ce billet.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>D&#232;s lors que vous &#234;tes r&#233;sident fiscal en France.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-5" href="#footnote-anchor-5" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">5</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>SpaceX n&#8217;en distribuera probablement pas dans un futur proche.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-6" href="#footnote-anchor-6" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">6</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Certificate of Foreign Status of Beneficial Owner, informations <a href="https://www.irs.gov/forms-pubs/about-form-w-8-ben">ici</a>.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-7" href="#footnote-anchor-7" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">7</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Ou vont le faire.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-8" href="#footnote-anchor-8" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">8</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Russell Top 50, Top 200 et 1000 et les indices de la s&#233;rie FTSE World Global.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-9" href="#footnote-anchor-9" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">9</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Le r&#233;sultat de la consultation de S&amp;P DJ Indices aupr&#232;s des parties prenantes devrait &#234;tre connu le 28 mai.</p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Plongée dans le monde des indices (1)]]></title><description><![CDATA[Les fournisseurs d'indices sont les nouveaux ma&#238;tres du monde]]></description><link>https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/plongee-dans-le-monde-des-indices</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/plongee-dans-le-monde-des-indices</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Philippe Maupas]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2026 14:02:54 GMT</pubDate><enclosure 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8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>En souscrivant <a href="https://indexacapital.com/t/b7IWO8">via ce lien</a> &#224; Indexa Vie Spirica, le contrat d&#8217;assurance vie en gestion sous mandat le moins cher de France &#224; ma connaissance, vous b&#233;n&#233;ficierez pendant 12 mois d&#8217;une remise de 40% sur les frais d&#8217;assurance et de gestion (qui sont de 0,67%), sur un montant maximum de 15.000 euros et sous r&#233;serve d&#8217;un versement initial minimum de 500 euros. Je b&#233;n&#233;ficierai alors de la m&#234;me remise sur les frais de mon propre contrat Indexa Vie Spirica.</em></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://indexacapital.com/t/b7IWO8&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:&quot;button-wrapper&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary button-wrapper" href="https://indexacapital.com/t/b7IWO8"><span>D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica</span></a></p><div><hr></div><h3>Qu&#8217;est-ce qu&#8217;un indice ?</h3><p>Un indice, c&#8217;est une fiction compos&#233;e de donn&#233;es enrob&#233;es dans de la propri&#233;t&#233; intellectuelle.</p><p>Je reviendrai plus en d&#233;tail sur cette d&#233;finition lapidaire.</p><h3>A quoi servent les indices ?</h3><p>A suivre la performance d&#8217;un panier de valeurs &#8212; qui peuvent &#234;tre des actions, des obligations ou d&#8217;autres instruments financiers &#8212; s&#233;lectionn&#233;es et pond&#233;r&#233;es selon diff&#233;rents crit&#232;res et sont repr&#233;sentatives d&#8217;un certain type d&#8217;investissements.</p><p>Un indice permet d&#8217;&#233;valuer la performance d&#8217;un investisseur qui aurait le m&#234;me univers : si vous voulez savoir si le g&#233;rant du fonds Alpha Actions europ&#233;ennes grandes capitalisations est bon, vous pouvez comparer la performance et la composition de son fonds &#224; celles d&#8217;un indice d&#8217;actions europ&#233;ennes de grandes capitalisations.</p><p>Les indices servent aussi de plus en plus de supports &#224; des produits de placement &#8212; qualifi&#233;s d&#8217;indiciels &#8212; qui essaient d&#8217;en d&#233;livrer la performance &#224; des investisseurs.</p><h3>A quand remontent les indices ?</h3><p>Le 3 juillet 1884, le journaliste am&#233;ricain Charles Dow, cofondateur de la soci&#233;t&#233; Dow Jones &amp; Company et du <em>Wall Street Journal</em>, lan&#231;a le premier indice boursier, le Dow Jones Transportation Average (initialement nomm&#233; Dow Jones Average), compos&#233; de 11 valeurs dont neuf soci&#233;t&#233;s de chemin de fer. </p><p>Pourquoi un indice ? Parce qu&#8217;&#224; l&#8217;&#233;poque, les investisseurs ne disposaient d&#8217;aucun outil pour savoir si la bourse montait ou baissait. Dow eut donc l&#8217;id&#233;e de regrouper des actions au sein d&#8217;une fiction (un indice) afin de calculer leur &#233;volution moyenne.</p><p>Comment ? Tout simplement en additionnant les cours de cl&#244;ture et en divisant la somme par le nombre de soci&#233;t&#233;s dans l&#8217;indice. Les outils de calcul de l&#8217;&#233;poque ne permettaient pas de m&#233;thode plus sophistiqu&#233;e.</p><p>En mai 1896, Dow lan&#231;a le Dow Jones Industrial Average (DJIA), qui existe toujours, pour tenir compte de l&#8217;&#233;volution de la composition de la cote actions, qui comportait de plus en plus de soci&#233;t&#233;s industrielles.</p><p>A l&#8217;origine, le DJIA comportait 12 valeurs<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a>.</p><p>En 1935, <em>Financial News</em>, un journal du groupe <em>Financial Times</em>, lan&#231;a le FT30 au Royaume-Uni<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a>. En 1949, l&#8217;indice Nikkei fut lanc&#233; au Japon. En 1957, ce fut le tour de l&#8217;indice S&amp;P 500 aux Etats-Unis. Puis, en 1962, de l&#8217;indice FTSE All Share au Royaume-Uni (FTSE = &#171;&nbsp;Financial Times Stock Exchange&nbsp;&#187;).</p><p>En 1969, Capital International lan&#231;a ce qui deviendra le MSCI World Index.</p><p>Les banques d&#8217;investissement Kuhn, Loeb and Co et Salomon Brothers lanc&#232;rent en 1973 les premiers indices obligataires </p><p>En 1984, le FTSE 100 fut lanc&#233; au Royaume-Uni, pour donner acc&#232;s &#224; un panier d&#8217;actions plus &#233;tendu et plus diversifi&#233;.</p><p>C&#8217;est en 1987 que fut lanc&#233; en France le CAC 40 (CAC = &#171; Cotation Assist&#233;e en Continu &#187;).</p><p>En 1991, Goldman Sachs lan&#231;a le premier indice mati&#232;res premi&#232;res pouvant servir de support d&#8217;investissement.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Abonnez-vous maintenant&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Abonnez-vous maintenant</span></a></p><h3>Qui sont les fournisseurs d&#8217;indices ?</h3><p>Les indices ont &#233;t&#233; &#224; l&#8217;origine lanc&#233;s par des groupes de presse financi&#232;re (<em>Dow Jones/Wall Street Journal</em>, <em>Financial Times</em>, <em>Nihon Keizai Shinbun</em>)</p><p>L&#8217;augmentation de la puissance de calcul des ordinateurs &#224; partir des ann&#233;es 1960 en a fait une activit&#233; de plus en plus technologique, &#233;loign&#233;e du c&#339;ur de m&#233;tier des groupes de presse.</p><p>Des groupes sp&#233;cialis&#233;s ont alors &#233;merg&#233;, certains rachetant les activit&#233;s d&#8217;indices &#224; leurs cr&#233;ateurs (le groupe <em>Financial Times</em> a ainsi vendu sa participation dans FTSE au London Stock Exchange et le groupe <em>Dow Jones</em> a apport&#233; son activit&#233; indices &#224; S&amp;P Dow Jones Indices).</p><p>Il existe aujourd&#8217;hui 3 acteurs dominants :</p><ul><li><p>FTSE Russell, majoritairement d&#233;tenu par London Stock Exchange Group (soci&#233;t&#233; cot&#233;e en bourse) ;</p></li><li><p>MSCI Group, cot&#233; en bourse ;</p></li><li><p>S&amp;P DJ Indices, d&#233;tenue majoritairement par S&amp;P Global (une soci&#233;t&#233; cot&#233;e en bourse) et minoritairement par CME Group (un op&#233;rateur boursier cot&#233; en bourse) et par Dow Jones ( d&#233;tenue par News Corp, soci&#233;t&#233; &#233;galement cot&#233;e en bourse).</p></li></ul><p>Il existe de nombreux autres fournisseurs d&#8217;indices.</p><p>Certains sont des bourses (comme le Nasdaq, Euronext ou Deutsche B&#246;rse), d&#8217;autres des op&#233;rateurs sp&#233;cialis&#233;s (comme Solactive), d&#8217;autres des fournisseurs de donn&#233;es financi&#232;res (comme Bloomberg ou Morningstar).</p><p>Tant que la gestion indicielle n&#8217;existait pas (c&#8217;est-&#224;-dire jusqu&#8217;en 1976, ann&#233;e du lancement par Vanguard du premier fonds indiciel actions &#224; destination des particuliers, j&#8217;en ai parl&#233; <a href="/__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/vanguard-meilleur-ami-des-investisseurs">ici</a>) ou n&#8217;&#233;tait pas tr&#232;s d&#233;velopp&#233;e (c&#8217;est-&#224;-dire jusqu&#8217;au d&#233;but des ann&#233;es 2000), les fournisseurs d&#8217;indices avaient une faible visibilit&#233; et un pouvoir n&#233;gligeable.</p><p>Aujourd&#8217;hui, la gestion indicielle est en tr&#232;s forte croissance dans le monde entier, est devenue dominante aux Etats-Unis et le poids des fournisseurs d&#8217;indices est devenu consid&#233;rable, puisqu&#8217;ils orientent des flux de capitaux consid&#233;rables.</p><p>J&#8217;ai coutume de dire qu&#8217;ils sont les nouveaux ma&#238;tres du monde financier.</p><p>Dans les semaines &#224; venir, j&#8217;essaierai d&#8217;expliquer pourquoi et vous emm&#232;nerai &#224; la d&#233;couverte du monde m&#233;connu et passionnant des indices.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/plongee-dans-le-monde-des-indices?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Partager&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/plongee-dans-le-monde-des-indices?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Partager</span></a></p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Il en comporte aujourd&#8217;hui 30 et c&#8217;est un indice m&#233;thodologiquement d&#233;pass&#233;. Mais en raison de son anciennet&#233;, il est toujours fr&#233;quemment mentionn&#233;.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>FT30 parce qu&#8217;il &#233;tait compos&#233; de 30 valeurs. Il y a (environ) 500 valeurs dans le S&amp;P 500. Il y a 40 valeurs dans le CAC 40. Etc.</p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Vanguard, meilleur ami des investisseurs ?]]></title><description><![CDATA[Le second g&#233;rant d'actifs au monde f&#234;te son 50&#232;me anniversaire]]></description><link>https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/vanguard-meilleur-ami-des-investisseurs</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/vanguard-meilleur-ami-des-investisseurs</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Philippe Maupas]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2025 07:30:42 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/5e3a524d-590d-4dac-a435-028a4e32d9d5_397x84.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" 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/__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa62a3a6f-6b50-48d2-9f20-1256f29e0430_397x84.jpeg 1272w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GZsT!, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/w_1456, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa62a3a6f-6b50-48d2-9f20-1256f29e0430_397x84.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Une soci&#233;t&#233; de gestion g&#232;re l'argent que lui confient des investisseurs, g&#233;n&#233;ralement dans des fonds.</p><p>Une soci&#233;t&#233; de gestion sert deux ma&#238;tres : ses propres actionnaires et les investisseurs dans ses fonds.</p><div><hr></div><p><em>L&#8217;Odyss&#233;e des Placements est 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8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>En souscrivant <a href="https://indexacapital.com/fr/fra/?invitation_code=jV5EWJ">via ce lien</a> &#224; Indexa Vie Spirica, le contrat d'assurance vie en gestion sous mandat le moins cher de France, vous b&#233;n&#233;ficierez d'une remise de 40% sur les frais d'assurance (qui sont de 0,67%) pendant 12 mois, dans la limite de 15.000 euros de versement et sous r&#233;serve d'un versement initial minimum de 500 euros. Je b&#233;n&#233;ficie alors de la m&#234;me remise sur les frais de mon propre contrat Indexa Vie Spirica.</em></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:&quot;button-wrapper&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary button-wrapper" href="https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ"><span>D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica</span></a></p><div><hr></div><p>Ces deux ma&#238;tres ont des attentes qui peuvent &#234;tre difficiles &#224; concilier pour la soci&#233;t&#233; de gestion :</p><ul><li><p>L&#8217;actionnaire de la soci&#233;t&#233; de gestion attend de cette derni&#232;re qu&#8217;elle soit rentable et que sa valorisation progresse.</p></li><li><p>L&#8217;investisseur dans les fonds de la soci&#233;t&#233; de gestion attend de ces fonds qu&#8217;ils se valorisent.</p></li></ul><p>La soci&#233;t&#233; de gestion facture aux fonds qu&#8217;elle g&#232;re des frais r&#233;currents<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a> qui r&#233;mun&#232;rent sa gestion des fonds<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a>, ce qui est parfaitement l&#233;gitime.</p><p>Ces frais viennent <em>en d&#233;duction</em> de la performance des fonds : toutes choses &#233;gales par ailleurs, moins les frais factur&#233;s aux fonds par la soci&#233;t&#233; de gestion sont &#233;lev&#233;s, plus la performance qui revient aux investisseurs dans les fonds l&#8217;est (&#233;lev&#233;e).</p><p>C&#8217;est l&#224; o&#249; les int&#233;r&#234;ts des actionnaires de la soci&#233;t&#233; de gestion et ceux des investisseurs dans les fonds de la soci&#233;t&#233; de gestion peuvent diverger : les seconds veulent payer les frais de gestion les <em>moins</em> &#233;lev&#233;s, les premiers veulent que la soci&#233;t&#233; de gestion facture les frais de gestion les <em>plus </em>&#233;lev&#233;s afin de maximiser sa rentabilit&#233;.</p><p>Une soci&#233;t&#233; de gestion a r&#233;solu le probl&#232;me en apparence insoluble de devoir servir deux ma&#238;tres &#224; la fois : elle s&#8217;appelle Vanguard, elle a &#233;t&#233; cr&#233;&#233;e en mai 1975 aux Etats-Unis et elle vient de f&#234;ter son cinquanti&#232;me anniversaire.</p><p>Pour ne servir qu&#8217;un ma&#238;tre, Jack Bogle (1929-2019), le fondateur de Vanguard, a dot&#233; la soci&#233;t&#233; de gestion d&#8217;une structure <em>de type</em> mutualiste, tr&#232;s atypique aux Etats-Unis : elle est juridiquement d&#233;tenue par les fonds dont elle assure la gestion, donc <em>indirectement </em>par les investisseurs dans ces fonds.</p><p>Vanguard peut &#8220;r&#233;mun&#233;rer&#8221; ses actionnaires indirects (les investisseurs dans les fonds qu&#8217;elle g&#232;re) en <em>baissant </em>les frais de gestion au fur et &#224; mesure de l&#8217;augmentation de leurs encours.</p><p>Pas de dividendes donc, mais des baisses r&#233;guli&#232;res de frais de gestion. Je rappelle que toutes choses &#233;gales par ailleurs, des frais en <em>moins</em>, c&#8217;est autant de performance en <em>plus </em>pour les investisseurs dans les fonds.</p><p>50 ans apr&#232;s sa cr&#233;ation, Vanguard est le deuxi&#232;me plus gros g&#233;rant d&#8217;actifs au monde en termes d&#8217;encours<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a> derri&#232;re BlackRock<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a>, qui est une soci&#233;t&#233; cot&#233;e en bourse servant deux ma&#238;tres.</p><p>Depuis 1975, Vanguard a baiss&#233; les frais de gestion de ses fonds &#224; plus de 2000 reprises.</p><p>Pour sa gamme de fonds de droit &#233;tats-unien, les frais moyens annuels pond&#233;r&#233;s des encours sont aujourd&#8217;hui de 0,07%<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a>. C&#8217;est tr&#232;s peu.</p><p>Vanguard est avant tout un g&#233;rant de fonds indiciels<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-6" href="#footnote-6" target="_self">6</a>, mais c&#8217;est aussi, du fait de sa taille, un des grands acteurs de la gestion active<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-7" href="#footnote-7" target="_self">7</a> mondiale.</p><p>Dans les deux cas (fonds indiciels et fonds g&#233;r&#233;s activement), Vanguard facture des frais tr&#232;s inf&#233;rieurs &#224; ceux des autres soci&#233;t&#233;s de gestion, qui servent toutes deux ma&#238;tres.</p><p>Vanguard est pr&#233;sent hors des Etats-Unis, notamment en Europe.</p><p>La soci&#233;t&#233; commercialise en France<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-8" href="#footnote-8" target="_self">8</a> une gamme de fonds traditionnels<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-9" href="#footnote-9" target="_self">9</a> et d&#8217;ETF<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-10" href="#footnote-10" target="_self">10</a>. Certains de ses produits sont r&#233;f&#233;renc&#233;s dans des contrats d&#8217;assurance vie, en gestion libre ou en gestion sous mandat<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-11" href="#footnote-11" target="_self">11</a>.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Abonnez-vous maintenant&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Abonnez-vous maintenant</span></a></p><p>Certains commentateurs parlent d&#8217;un effet Vanguard ('&#8220;Vanguard effect&#8221;) : en baissant r&#233;guli&#232;rement les frais de gestion de ses propres fonds, Vanguard force ses concurrents &#224; baisser ceux des leurs pour rester dans la course, ce qui permet aux investisseurs de r&#233;aliser des &#233;conomies consid&#233;rables.</p><p>Ces &#233;conomies croissent au fil du temps et finissent par atteindre au total des centaines de milliards de dollars.</p><p>Cet effet est particuli&#232;rement prononc&#233; aux Etats-Unis, o&#249; le march&#233; de la distribution de produit de placement est tr&#232;s concurrentiel.</p><p>Il l&#8217;est moins en Europe, o&#249; le poids dominant des banques dans la distribution r&#233;duit la concurrence tarifaire, mais il se fait quand m&#234;me sentir.</p><p> 50 ans, c&#8217;est largement l&#8217;&#226;ge de raison. J&#8217;esp&#232;re que l&#8217;effet Vanguard sera de plus en plus prononc&#233; en Europe, car tous les investisseurs ont &#224; y gagner. </p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/vanguard-meilleur-ami-des-investisseurs?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Partager&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/vanguard-meilleur-ami-des-investisseurs?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Partager</span></a></p><p> </p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Frais de gestion fixes et commission de surperformance dans certains cas.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Ces frais viennent en d&#233;duction de la performance des fonds, de fa&#231;on invisible &#8212; mais pas indolore &#8212; pour l&#8217;investisseur.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Vanguard g&#233;rait plus de 9 000 milliards de dollars &#224; fin 2024.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>BlackRock g&#233;rait 11 600 milliards de dollars &#224; fin 2024.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-5" href="#footnote-anchor-5" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">5</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Frais pond&#233;r&#233;s des encours moyens de l&#8217;ann&#233;e 2024.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-6" href="#footnote-anchor-6" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">6</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>C&#8217;est-&#224;-dire de fonds qui se contentent d&#8217;essayer de d&#233;livrer la performance de leur indice de r&#233;f&#233;rence, moins les frais.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-7" href="#footnote-anchor-7" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">7</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>La gestion dite &#8220;active&#8221; <em>cherche </em>&#224; battre un indice de r&#233;f&#233;rence. Vanguard g&#233;rait activement pour 1 800 milliards de dollars &#224; fin 2024.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-8" href="#footnote-anchor-8" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">8</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Son site destin&#233; aux investisseurs institutionnels en France est <a href="https://www.fr.vanguard/professionnel">ici</a>.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-9" href="#footnote-anchor-9" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">9</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>A savoir non n&#233;gociables en bourse.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-10" href="#footnote-anchor-10" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">10</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Les ETF, pour Exchange Traded Funds, sont des fonds n&#233;gociables en bourse.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-11" href="#footnote-anchor-11" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">11</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Le contrat d&#8217;assurance vie en gestion sous mandat Indexa Vie Spirica utilise des fonds indiciels Vanguard.</p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[En cas de malheur]]></title><description><![CDATA[Que se passe-t-il si mon interm&#233;diaire financier fait faillite ?]]></description><link>https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/en-cas-de-malheur</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/en-cas-de-malheur</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Philippe Maupas]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 11 Mar 2024 16:39:59 GMT</pubDate><enclosure 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8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>En souscrivant <a href="https://indexacapital.com/fr/fra/?invitation_code=jV5EWJ">via ce lien</a> &#224; Indexa Vie Spirica, le contrat d'assurance vie en gestion sous mandat le moins cher de France, vous b&#233;n&#233;ficierez d'une remise de 40% sur les frais d'assurance (qui sont de 0,67%) pendant 12 mois, dans la limite de 15.000 euros de versement et sous r&#233;serve d'un versement initial minimum de 500 euros. Je b&#233;n&#233;ficie alors de la m&#234;me remise sur les frais de mon propre contrat Indexa Vie Spirica.</em></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:&quot;button-wrapper&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary button-wrapper" href="https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ"><span>D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica</span></a></p><div><hr></div><h3>Les d&#233;p&#244;ts</h3><p>Pour pouvoir investir, il faut de l&#8217;argent, qui peut &#234;tre d&#233;pos&#233; sur un compte courant, un compte &#224; terme, un livret bancaire, un livret jeune, un compte ou un plan d&#8217;&#233;pargne logement (CEL ou PEL), un plan d'&#233;pargne populaire (PEP) bancaire ou encore sur un compte-esp&#232;ces associ&#233; &#224; un <strong>compte-titres ordinaire</strong>, &#224; un <strong>PEA </strong>ou &#224; un <strong>PEA-PME</strong>.</p><p>Dans le jargon financier, on parle de <strong>d&#233;p&#244;ts</strong>.</p><h3>Les titres financiers</h3><p>Les esp&#232;ces peuvent avoir &#233;t&#233; investies dans des <strong>titres financiers</strong> (actions, obligations, parts de fonds communs de placement ou actions de sicav, produits d&#233;riv&#233;s, etc.) d&#233;tenus sur un compte-titres ordinaire, un PEA ou un PEA-PME.</p><p>Les <strong>actifs num&#233;riques</strong> comme les <strong>crypto </strong>ou les <strong>NFT </strong>ne sont <strong>pas </strong>consid&#233;r&#233;s comme des titres financiers.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Abonnez-vous maintenant&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Abonnez-vous maintenant</span></a></p><h3>Le FGDR</h3><p>Il existe en France une <strong>garantie </strong>des <strong>d&#233;p&#244;ts </strong>et des <strong>titres </strong>qui s&#8217;exerce au travers du <strong>Fonds de Garantie des D&#233;p&#244;ts et de R&#233;solution (FGDR)</strong>, cr&#233;&#233; en <strong>1999</strong>.</p><p>Ce dernier, &#8220;charg&#233; d&#8217;une <strong>mission de service public</strong> [&#8230;] est l&#8217;op&#233;rateur de crise du secteur bancaire et financier. Il prot&#232;ge les avoirs des clients et <strong>les indemnise en cas de d&#233;faillance de leur &#233;tablissement</strong>&#8221; (<a href="https://www.garantiedesdepots.fr/fr">source</a>).</p><p>Selon le dernier <a href="https://www.garantiedesdepots.fr/sites/default/files/2023-04/08-FGDR-Rapport_Annuel_2022-A4_web.pdf">rapport annuel</a> du FGDR (celui de 2022), &#8220;toutes les soci&#233;t&#233;s disposant de la part de l&#8217;ACPR d&#8217;un agr&#233;ment en qualit&#233; d&#8217;&#233;tablissement de cr&#233;dit, d&#8217;un agr&#233;ment comme prestataire de services d&#8217;investissement, d&#8217;un agr&#233;ment en tant qu&#8217;interm&#233;diaire financier habilite&#769; a&#768; d&#233;livrer des engagements de caution r&#233;glement&#233;s ou d&#8217;un agr&#233;ment en tant que soci&#233;t&#233; de gestion de portefeuille, adh&#232;rent au FGDR au titre des m&#233;canismes de garantie des d&#233;p&#244;ts, de garantie des titres ou de garantie des cautions respectivement. Cette adh&#233;sion est obligatoire et constitue une condition m&#234;me de l&#8217;agr&#233;ment.&#8221;</p><p>Les ressources du FGDR proviennent des contributions vers&#233;es par ses adh&#233;rents.</p><p>A fin 2022, les <strong>fonds propres </strong>du FGDR s&#8217;&#233;levaient &#224; <strong>6,9 milliards d&#8217;euros</strong>.</p><h3>La garantie des d&#233;p&#244;ts</h3><p>Pour les d&#233;p&#244;ts, le plafond actuel d&#8217;indemnisation est depuis 2009 de <strong>100 000 &#8364;</strong> <strong>par d&#233;posant</strong> et <strong>par &#233;tablissement</strong>. Et ce quel que soit le nombre de comptes d&#233;tenu par une personne au sein d&#8217;un m&#234;me &#233;tablissement.</p><p>Les sommes pr&#233;sentes sur les <strong>livrets d&#8217;&#233;pargne r&#233;glement&#233;e</strong> (livret A, livret de d&#233;veloppement durable et environnementale, livret d&#8217;&#233;pargne populaire) ne sont pas d&#233;compt&#233;es du plafond de 100 000 euros car ces livrets b&#233;n&#233;ficient d&#8217;une <strong>garantie de l&#8217;Etat</strong>.</p><p>La garantie du FGDR s&#8217;applique <strong>&#224; tous les &#233;tablissements bancaires agr&#233;&#233;s par l'Autorit&#233; de Contr&#244;le Prudentiel et de R&#233;solution</strong> (ACPR), qu&#8217;ils soient fran&#231;ais ou qu&#8217;il s&#8217;agisse de filiales fran&#231;aises de banques &#233;trang&#232;res.</p><p>Il existe &#233;galement en France des <strong>succursales de banques &#233;trang&#232;res</strong> : pour celles dont le <strong>si&#232;ge social</strong> est situ&#233; dans les pays de l&#8217;<strong>Espace Economique Europ&#233;en</strong> (pays de l&#8217;Union europ&#233;enne, Islande, Norv&#232;ge et Lichtenstein), <strong>la garantie du pays d&#8217;origine s&#8217;applique</strong>.</p><p>Suite &#224; la crise financi&#232;re de 2008, le plafond de la garantie de 100 000 euros par d&#233;posant s&#8217;applique <strong>dans toute l&#8217;Europe</strong>, et ce depuis le <strong>1er janvier 2011</strong>.</p><p>Depuis sa cr&#233;ation, la garantie des d&#233;p&#244;ts n&#8217;a encore <strong>jamais eu &#224; jouer</strong>.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/en-cas-de-malheur?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Partager&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/en-cas-de-malheur?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Partager</span></a></p><h3>La garantie des titres</h3><p>Cette garantie des titres prot&#232;ge et indemnise les investisseurs en cas de d&#233;faillance de leur prestataire (<strong>banque </strong>ou <strong>entreprise d&#8217;investissement</strong>).</p><p>Le plafond de la <strong>garantie des titres</strong> est de <strong>70 000 &#8364; par client et par &#233;tablissement</strong>.</p><p>La garantie est d&#233;clench&#233;e sous une double condition : que <strong>les titres aient disparu des comptes</strong> et que l&#8217;&#233;tablissement teneur des comptes soit en <strong>cessation de paiement</strong> et ne puisse <strong>ni restituer ces titres, ni les rembourser</strong>.</p><p>Quant aux <strong>esp&#232;ces associ&#233;es aux comptes titres</strong>, elles sont garanties &#224; hauteur d&#8217;un <strong>plafond de 70 000 &#8364;</strong> si l&#8217;&#233;tablissement teneur de compte est <strong>une entreprise d&#8217;investissement</strong> et que le compte est libell&#233; <strong>en euro</strong> ou dans <strong>une autre devise de l&#8217;Espace Economique Europ&#233;en</strong>.</p><p>Si l&#8217;&#233;tablissement teneur de compte est <strong>un &#233;tablissement bancaire</strong>, les esp&#232;ces sont incluses dans les sommes couvertes <strong>dans la limite de 100 000 &#8364; au titre de la garantie des d&#233;p&#244;ts</strong>.</p><p>Les titres et les esp&#232;ces associ&#233;es confi&#233;s les investisseurs &#224; une <strong>soci&#233;t&#233; de gestion de portefeuille</strong> sont prot&#233;g&#233;s par une autre garantie &#233;galement g&#233;r&#233;e par le FDGR, celle des <strong>services de gestion</strong>.</p><p>Mise en place &#224; l&#8217;&#233;t&#233; 2022, cette garantie couvre les instruments financiers (dont les parts d&#8217;OPCVM) et les esp&#232;ces associ&#233;es &#224; hauteur d&#8217;un total de <strong>20 000 &#8364;</strong>.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Partager L'Odyss&#233;e des Placements&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Partager L'Odyss&#233;e des Placements</span></a></p><p>Aucune des garanties mentionn&#233;es dans ce billet ne concerne <strong>l&#8217;assurance vie</strong>, qui fait l&#8217;objet d&#8217;un <strong>r&#233;gime sp&#233;cifique</strong> sur lequel je reviendrai ult&#233;rieurement. En effet, les titres d&#233;tenus dans un contrat d&#8217;assurance vie appartiennent juridiquement &#224; <strong>l&#8217;assureur</strong>, pas &#224; <strong>l&#8217;assur&#233;</strong>.</p><p>Si le sujet vous int&#233;resse et que vous voulez approfondir, il est possible de suivre un <strong>mini-cours en ligne</strong> et de lire des <strong>tutoriels </strong>sur <a href="https://www.garantiedesdepots.fr/fr/cours-en-ligne">le site du FGDR</a>.</p><div><hr></div><p><em>N&#8217;h&#233;sitez pas &#224; visiter le site d&#8217;Indexa Capital pour d&#233;couvrir le contrat Indexa Vie Spirica. J&#8217;y ai souscrit moi-m&#234;me.</em></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:&quot;button-wrapper&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary button-wrapper" href="https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ"><span>D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica</span></a></p><div data-component-name="FragmentNodeToDOM"><div><hr></div><p></p></div><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;S'abonner&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;fr&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Merci de lire L'Odyss&#233;e des Placements ! Abonnez-vous gratuitement pour recevoir de nouveaux posts et soutenir mon travail.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Tapez votre e-mail&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="S'abonner"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Quel investisseur êtes-vous (2/2) ?]]></title><description><![CDATA[Int&#233;ress&#233; par les valorisations ou sans opinion ?]]></description><link>https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/quel-investisseur-etes-vous-22</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/quel-investisseur-etes-vous-22</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Philippe Maupas]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2024 09:30:14 GMT</pubDate><enclosure 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href="https://pixabay.com/fr/users/minkewink-3914298/?utm_source=link-attribution&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_campaign=image&amp;utm_content=1879999">Minke Wink</a> de <a href="https://pixabay.com/fr//?utm_source=link-attribution&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_campaign=image&amp;utm_content=1879999">Pixabay</a></figcaption></figure></div><p>Dans <a href="/__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/quel-investisseur-etes-vous-12">le pr&#233;c&#233;dent billet</a>, je me suis int&#233;ress&#233; &#224; deux familles d&#8217;investisseurs : le <strong>trader </strong>et l&#8217;investisseur ax&#233; sur le <strong>prix</strong>. </p><p>Pour l&#8217;un comme pour l&#8217;autre, la probabilit&#233; de gagner <strong>durablement </strong>de l&#8217;argent est tr&#232;s <strong>faible</strong>.</p><p>Dans notre jeu des quatre familles, inspir&#233; par le blogueur anglais <strong><a href="https://behaviouralinvestment.com/2024/02/06/which-type-of-investor-are-you/">Joe Wiggins</a></strong>, 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8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>En souscrivant <a href="https://indexacapital.com/fr/fra/?invitation_code=jV5EWJ">via ce lien</a> &#224; Indexa Vie Spirica, le contrat d'assurance vie en gestion sous mandat le moins cher de France, vous b&#233;n&#233;ficierez d'une remise de 40% sur les frais d'assurance (qui sont de 0,67%) pendant 12 mois, dans la limite de 15.000 euros de versement et sous r&#233;serve d'un versement initial minimum de 500 euros. Je b&#233;n&#233;ficie alors de la m&#234;me remise sur les frais de mon propre contrat Indexa Vie Spirica.</em></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:&quot;button-wrapper&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary button-wrapper" href="https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ"><span>D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica</span></a></p><div><hr></div><h3>L&#8217;investisseur ax&#233; sur la valorisation</h3><p>Notez bien la diff&#233;rence de terminologie entre <strong>prix </strong>et <strong>valorisation </strong>: ce n&#8217;est pas <strong>du tout</strong> la m&#234;me chose. </p><p>L&#8217;investisseur ax&#233; sur la valorisation est g&#233;n&#233;ralement un <strong>professionnel</strong>. Il recherche des actifs <strong>sous-valoris&#233;s</strong> en s&#8217;int&#233;ressant &#224; leur valeur fondamentale qu&#8217;il va chercher &#224; <strong>calculer </strong>en en estimant les flux de tr&#233;sorerie futurs.</p><p>J&#8217;avais parl&#233; de cette approche <a href="/__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/les-actions-3">ici</a>.</p><p>Dans la mesure o&#249; <strong>les fluctuations des prix des actifs</strong> &#224; court et moyen termes peuvent s&#8217;&#233;loigner &#8212; parfois <strong>consid&#233;rablement </strong>&#8212; de la <strong>valeur fondamentale</strong> qu&#8217;on leur a affect&#233;e, une telle approche est la plus p&#233;nible en mati&#232;re comportementale.</p><p>Il arrive que les membres de cette famille passent pour des <strong>idiots </strong>pendant de longues p&#233;riodes. Ils peuvent attendre une <strong>validation </strong>de leur <strong>valorisation </strong>pendant des ann&#233;es, parfois <strong>en vain</strong>.</p><p>Par rapport aux membres de la pr&#233;c&#233;dente famille &#8212; celle des investisseurs ax&#233;s sur <strong>le prix</strong> &#8212; ils ont <strong>plus fr&#233;quemment raison</strong> mais risquent plus de <strong>perdre leur travail</strong>.</p><p>Je reviendrai plus tard sur ces investisseurs ax&#233;s sur la valorisation : on les retrouve parmi un groupe de professionnels qu&#8217;on appelle <strong>les g&#233;rants actifs</strong>. </p><p>Ils sont <strong>actifs </strong>car leur <strong>objectif </strong>est de d&#233;livrer <strong>une performance sup&#233;rieure</strong> &#224; celle du march&#233; sur lequel ils investissent.</p><p>Pour cela, il doivent &#234;tre <strong>diff&#233;rents </strong>de ce march&#233; (incarn&#233; par un panier d&#8217;actions ou d&#8217;obligations qu&#8217;on appelle un <strong>indice</strong>), donc il faut qu&#8217;ils soient <strong>actifs </strong>(par opposition &#224; l&#8217;indice, que l&#8217;on qualifie de <strong>passif</strong>).</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Abonnez-vous maintenant&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Abonnez-vous maintenant</span></a></p><h3>L&#8217;investisseur passif</h3><p>Cet investisseur n&#8217;est pas un <strong>trader </strong>: il a un horizon de placement de moyen ou de long terme.</p><p>Il n&#8217;est pas ax&#233; sur le <strong>prix </strong>des actifs, ni sur leur <strong>valorisation</strong>, qu&#8217;il ne cherche pas &#224; d&#233;terminer.</p><p>Il veut en revanche exposer son &#233;pargne &#224; des <strong>paniers d&#8217;actions ou d&#8217;obligations<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a></strong> (incarn&#233;s par des <strong>indices</strong>) tr&#232;s <strong>diversifi&#233;s</strong>, tant en termes g&#233;ographiques que de secteurs d&#8217;activit&#233;.</p><p>Les paniers d&#8217;actions ou d&#8217;obligations correspondant &#224; la composition des indices peuvent &#234;tre achet&#233;s par des <strong>fonds </strong>que l&#8217;on qualifie <strong>d&#8217;indiciels </strong>: leur seul objectif est de d&#233;tenir les valeurs composant leur indice, afin d&#8217;en d&#233;livrer la performance aux investisseurs (moins leurs frais).</p><p>Les investisseurs <strong>passifs </strong>(c&#8217;est-&#224;-dire utilisant des fonds indiciels) n&#8217;ont pas <strong>d&#8217;opinion </strong>sur la <strong>valorisation </strong>des actions ou des obligations d&#233;tenues par leurs fonds.</p><p>Ils estiment que sur longue dur&#233;e, sur la foi des donn&#233;es financi&#232;res pass&#233;es, les actions et les obligations <strong>s&#8217;appr&#233;cient </strong>parce qu&#8217;elles refl&#232;tent <strong>l&#8217;accroissement de richesse du monde</strong> depuis la r&#233;volution industrielle, qui est r&#233;el.</p><p>Un investisseur passif consid&#232;re qu&#8217;il n&#8217;y a pas de m&#233;thode <strong>infaillible </strong>pour battre les indices <strong>sur longue dur&#233;e </strong>en utilisant une approche ax&#233;e sur la valorisation (celle des investisseurs actifs).</p><p>Nous verrons plus tard que depuis 2008, il est en effet tr&#232;s difficile pour <strong>les g&#233;rants professionnels actifs</strong> de battre les fonds indiciels. Certains y arrivent, mais il est &#224; peu pr&#232;s <strong>impossible </strong>de les identifier <strong>&#224; l&#8217;avance</strong>.</p><p>Une approche passive pose des probl&#232;mes comportementaux : <strong>ne rien faire est difficile</strong>, tant les sollicitations pour faire <em>quelque chose</em> sont nombreuses &#224; chaque fois que se produit <strong>un &#233;v&#233;nement susceptible d&#8217;avoir un impact sur les march&#233;s financiers</strong>.</p><p>Nous verrons aussi que, d&#232;s lors que votre portefeuille est <strong>diversifi&#233;</strong>, <strong>ne rien faire</strong> est souvent de tr&#232;s loin <strong>la meilleure approche</strong>.</p><p>Vous l&#8217;aurez peut-&#234;tre devin&#233; en lisant ce billet et <a href="/__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/quel-investisseur-etes-vous-12">le pr&#233;c&#233;dent</a>, je suis <strong>un fervent partisan de l&#8217;approche passive</strong> (&#224; savoir de l&#8217;utilisation de fonds indiciels &#224; bas co&#251;ts), qui me semble de tr&#232;s loin <strong>la meilleure pour l&#8217;immense majorit&#233; des particuliers</strong>.</p><p>Je suis par ailleurs convaincu que la premi&#232;re approche &#8212; celle du <strong>trader </strong>&#8212; est de tr&#232;s loin <strong>la pire</strong> pour faire fructifier sur la dur&#233;e un patrimoine financier.</p><p>Et vous, &#224; quelle famille pensez-vous appartenir ?</p><div><hr></div><p><em>N&#8217;h&#233;sitez pas &#224; visiter le site d&#8217;Indexa Capital pour d&#233;couvrir le contrat Indexa Vie Spirica. J&#8217;y ai souscrit moi-m&#234;me.</em></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:&quot;button-wrapper&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary button-wrapper" href="https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ"><span>D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica</span></a></p><p></p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Je n&#8217;ai pas encore consacr&#233; de billet aux obligations. &#199;a viendra bient&#244;t, patientez.</p><p></p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Quel investisseur êtes-vous (1/2) ?]]></title><description><![CDATA[O&#249; l'on joue au jeu des quatre familles, pour apprendre &#224; se conna&#238;tre]]></description><link>https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/quel-investisseur-etes-vous-12</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/quel-investisseur-etes-vous-12</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Philippe Maupas]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2024 16:48:16 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MOOq!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F90aa0477-a835-4551-972f-3801ffcb8acf_4032x3024.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MOOq!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F90aa0477-a835-4551-972f-3801ffcb8acf_4032x3024.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source 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Je b&#233;n&#233;ficie alors de la m&#234;me remise sur les frais de mon propre contrat Indexa Vie Spirica.</em></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:&quot;button-wrapper&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary button-wrapper" href="https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ"><span>D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica</span></a></p><div><hr></div><h3>Le trader</h3><p>Le trader, g&#233;n&#233;ralement coll&#233; &#224; son <strong>&#233;cran</strong>, a un horizon d&#8217;investissement <strong>tr&#232;s court</strong>.</p><p>Il ne s&#8217;int&#233;resse ni &#224; la <strong>valorisation </strong>ni aux <strong>fondamentaux </strong>de l&#8217;actif qu&#8217;il trade et cherche avant tout &#224; <strong>pr&#233;dire correctement la r&#233;action des autres investisseurs</strong> &#224; une information, ou bien &#224; <strong>sp&#233;culer </strong>avec des instruments financiers qui se pr&#234;tent &#224; l&#8217;exercice.</p><p>Ces instruments financiers sont souvent des <strong>produits d&#233;riv&#233;s</strong> (j&#8216;y reviendrai), que <strong>Warren Buffett</strong>, l&#8217;un des investisseurs les plus talentueux au monde, a qualifi&#233; <strong>d&#8217;armes financi&#232;res de destruction massive</strong>.</p><p><a href="https://fr.finance.yahoo.com/news/retail-traders-losing-billions-india-050113068.html">Un article</a> de 3 journalistes de <em>Bloomberg </em>nous apprend qu&#8217;en <strong>Inde</strong> le r&#233;gulateur des march&#233;s financiers (Sebi) vient de publier des donn&#233;es sur les <strong>traders particuliers</strong> utilisant <strong>des produits d&#233;riv&#233;s</strong> : <strong>90% d&#8217;entre eux ont perdu de l&#8217;argent<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a></strong>.</p><p>Collectivement, ils ont perdu l&#8217;&#233;quivalent de <strong>5,2 milliards de dollars</strong>. Leur dur&#233;e moyenne de d&#233;tention des produits d&#233;riv&#233;s est inf&#233;rieure &#224;&#8230; <strong>30 minutes</strong>.</p><p>Pour le commun des mortels, est extr&#234;mement difficile de <strong>trader durablement avec succ&#232;s</strong>, ce qui explique pourquoi ce sont surtout les gens qui <strong>enseignent le trading aux autres</strong> en leur <strong>vendant des formations</strong> qui en profitent, plut&#244;t que les traders eux-m&#234;mes.</p><p>Toujours en Inde, un influenceur nomm&#233; <strong>Mohammad Nasiruddin Ansari</strong>, suivi par 500,000 personnes sur les r&#233;seaux sociaux, vendait des &#8220;formations&#8221; pour devenir riche en tradant, en assurant &#234;tre devenu lui-m&#234;me tr&#232;s riche gr&#226;ce au trading.</p><p>Pas de chance, la Sebi lui a demand&#233; ses relev&#233;s de portefeuille : entre janvier et juillet 2023, le g&#233;nie auto-proclam&#233; du trading avait <strong>perdu </strong>l&#8217;&#233;quivalent de <strong>347,700 dollars</strong>.</p><p>Son associ&#233; et lui ont &#233;t&#233; condamn&#233;s &#224; <strong>restituer </strong>les 172 millions de roupies de chiffre d&#8217;affaires g&#233;n&#233;r&#233;s par la vente de formations au trading (l&#8217;&#233;quivalent de 1,927 millions d&#8217;euros ou de 2,071 millions de dollars).</p><p>Si vous &#234;tes abonn&#233; &#224; ce Substack, vous ne devriez pas appartenir &#224; cette famille.</p><h3>L&#8217;investisseur ax&#233; sur le prix</h3><p>Selon Joe Wiggins, c&#8217;est la famille la plus nombreuse.</p><p>L&#8217;investisseur ax&#233; sur le prix a <strong>un horizon d'investissement court</strong>, mais plus long que celui du trader : <strong>de trois mois &#224; trois ans</strong>.</p><p>Il utilise deux types d&#8217;approches :</p><ol><li><p><strong>pr&#233;dire les r&#233;actions des autres investisseurs</strong> <strong>aux informations futures</strong>, qu'elles concernent les march&#233;s ou la macro, <strong>avant</strong> qu&#8217;elles ne soient connues ;</p></li><li><p><strong>pr&#233;dire les r&#233;actions des autres investisseurs aux informations</strong>, qu'elles concernent les march&#233;s ou la macro, une fois que ces informations sont connues.</p></li></ol><p>Il s'int&#233;resse <strong>un peu plus</strong> que le trader aux <strong>fondamentaux </strong>et aux <strong>valorisations</strong>.</p><p>Wiggins estime que cette approche est <strong>la plus confortable sur un plan comportemental</strong>, car elle satisfait plusieurs des biais de l&#8217;&#234;tre humain : le d&#233;sir d'&#234;tre actif, de faire comme les autres, de raconter des histoires.</p><p>Si vous achetez vous-m&#234;me des actions <strong>sans avoir fait une analyse financi&#232;re de la soci&#233;t&#233; pour en &#233;tablir une valorisation</strong>, vous appartenez &#224; cette famille.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/quel-investisseur-etes-vous-12?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Partager&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/quel-investisseur-etes-vous-12?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Partager</span></a></p><p>D&#233;sol&#233; pour vous, mais Wiggins consid&#232;re qu&#8217;il est <strong>difficile de gagner durablement de l&#8217;argent</strong> avec une telle approche.</p><p>Je suis d&#8217;accord avec lui.</p><p>Dans un prochain billet, je m&#8217;int&#233;resserai aux deux derni&#232;res familles d&#8217;investisseurs.</p><p>Spoiler : il y aura celle qui me semble la plus pertinente pour les investisseurs non professionnels qui ne souhaitent pas consacrer un temps d&#233;raisonnable &#224; la gestion de leurs placements.</p><div><hr></div><p><em>N&#8217;h&#233;sitez pas &#224; visiter le site d&#8217;Indexa Capital pour d&#233;couvrir le contrat Indexa Vie Spirica. J&#8217;y ai souscrit moi-m&#234;me.</em></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:&quot;button-wrapper&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary button-wrapper" href="https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ"><span>D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica</span></a></p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Sur un an &#224; fin mars 2022. Ce sont les derni&#232;res donn&#233;es disponibles.</p><p></p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Où acheter actions et ETF ?]]></title><description><![CDATA[Il existe aujourd'hui d'autres options que les banques traditionnelles pour les comptes-titres]]></description><link>https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/ou-acheter-actions-et-etf</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/ou-acheter-actions-et-etf</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Philippe Maupas]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2024 16:20:30 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!IItS!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F84400719-f221-49a5-84d4-7587ebb4b799_1280x903.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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href="https://pixabay.com/fr/users/geralt-9301/?utm_source=link-attribution&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_campaign=image&amp;utm_content=1307227">Gerd Altmann</a> sur <a href="https://pixabay.com/fr//?utm_source=link-attribution&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_campaign=image&amp;utm_content=1307227">Pixabay</a></figcaption></figure></div><p>Maintenant que nous avons explor&#233; l&#8217;univers des actions et des comptes-titres, le temps est venu de nous int&#233;resser aux diff&#233;rents <strong>acteurs </strong>chez qui on peut ouvrir des comptes-titres.</p><p>Je rappelle qu&#8217;il n&#8217;y a <strong>pas de limite au nombre de compte-titres ordinaire</strong> qu&#8217;une personne physique peut d&#233;tenir.</p><p>Il y en a revanche une limite pour le PEA et le PEA-PME : un seul par personne physique, j&#8217;en avais parl&#233; <a href="/__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/les-actions-5">ici</a>.</p><p>Qu&#8217;est-ce qui diff&#233;rencie les offres de comptes-titres ?</p><ul><li><p>Les frais.</p></li><li><p>Les places boursi&#232;res et les types de produits auxquels vous avez acc&#232;s.</p></li><li><p>Les outils mis &#224; votre disposition (donn&#233;es de march&#233; et informations).</p></li></ul><p>Je me dois de pr&#233;ciser ceci : si vous lisez ce Substack et que vous y apprenez quelque chose, il est plus que probable que vous ne soyez pas encore pr&#234;t (ou pr&#234;te) &#224; investir en actions.</p><p>Je n&#8217;entrerai donc pas ici dans des d&#233;tails inutiles mais vous donnerai les informations essentielles pour que vous puissiez le cas &#233;ch&#233;ant investir en <strong>ETF</strong>.</p><p>Ces produits, qui s&#8217;ach&#232;tent en bourse comme des actions (&#8220;ETF = Exchange Traded Funds, soit Fonds n&#233;goci&#233;s en bourse), sont g&#233;n&#233;ralement <strong>tr&#232;s diversifi&#233;s</strong>.</p><p>Et contrairement &#224; une action &#8212; pour laquelle il importe d&#8217;avoir une id&#233;e aussi pr&#233;cise que possible de sa valorisation avant d&#8217;investir (et donc d&#8217;avoir <strong>des connaissances avanc&#233;es en analyse financi&#232;re et acc&#232;s &#224; des outils</strong>) &#8212; on peut investir dans des ETF tr&#232;s diversifi&#233;s sans comp&#233;tences particuli&#232;res en mati&#232;re de valorisation, d&#232;s lors que l&#8217;on a compris certains principes.</p><p>Je reviendrai longuement sur les ETF dans un futur proche.</p><div><hr></div><p><em>Le lancement de L&#8217;Odyss&#233;e des Placements est soutenu par <a href="https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ">Indexa Capital</a>.</em></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rFuu!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0b0b30cc-b164-4fd4-89bb-a4dd6b97ce6b_789x364.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div 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1272w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rFuu!, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/w_1456, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0b0b30cc-b164-4fd4-89bb-a4dd6b97ce6b_789x364.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>En souscrivant <a href="https://indexacapital.com/fr/fra/?invitation_code=jV5EWJ">via ce lien</a> &#224; Indexa Vie Spirica, le contrat d'assurance vie en gestion sous mandat le moins cher de France, vous b&#233;n&#233;ficierez d'une remise de 40% sur les frais d'assurance (qui sont de 0,67%) pendant 12 mois, dans la limite de 15.000 euros de versement et sous r&#233;serve d'un versement initial minimum de 500 euros. Je b&#233;n&#233;ficie alors de la m&#234;me remise sur les frais de mon propre contrat Indexa Vie Spirica.</em></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:&quot;button-wrapper&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary button-wrapper" href="https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ"><span>D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica</span></a></p><div><hr></div><h3>Les banques traditionnelles</h3><p>Les banques traditionnelles ont un avantage important : du fait de leur <strong>maillage du territoire</strong> par un <strong>r&#233;seau d&#8217;agences</strong> tr&#232;s d&#233;velopp&#233; (qui leur co&#251;te tr&#232;s cher et qu&#8217;elles ont tendance &#224; r&#233;duire), elles sont la destination naturelle pour les particuliers oblig&#233;s d&#8217;avoir <strong>un compte-courant</strong>.</p><p>Nous adorons collectivement les <strong>d&#233;tester</strong>, parce que les employ&#233;s en agence changent fr&#233;quemment, parce qu&#8217;il est de plus en plus difficile de les avoir au t&#233;l&#233;phone, parce qu&#8217;elles ne nous comprennent pas, parce que nous trouvons les tarifs &#233;lev&#233;s et les agios injustes, mais nous avons finalement un niveau &#233;lev&#233; de <strong>confiance </strong>en elles.</p><p>Et comme une partie importante de notre vie financi&#232;re gravite autour du <strong>compte courant</strong>, la banque o&#249; vous domiciliez vos revenus a un &#233;norme avantage pour vous vendre d&#8217;autres produits, dont <strong>des produits d&#8217;&#233;pargne et de placement</strong>, des produits <strong>d&#8217;assurance</strong>, voire des services de <strong>t&#233;l&#233;phonie </strong>ou de <strong>t&#233;l&#233;surveillance</strong>.</p><p>Les banques traditionnelles se livrent &#224; une concurrence f&#233;roce sur un seul produit : <strong>les pr&#234;ts immobiliers</strong>.</p><p>Sur les autres prestations, la concurrence est bien moindre et les tarifs de ces acteurs aux noms connus de tous (Cr&#233;dit Agricole, BNP Paribas, Soci&#233;t&#233; G&#233;n&#233;rale, LCL, Cr&#233;dit Mutuel, CIC, Banques Populaires, Caisses d&#8217;Epargne, La Banque Postale) sont &#224; la fois <strong>&#233;lev&#233;s </strong>et assez proches.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!T7Zz!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3755089c-2702-4457-b6a6-44440f292adc_4032x3024.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!T7Zz!, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/w_424, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/f_webp, 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/__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3755089c-2702-4457-b6a6-44440f292adc_4032x3024.jpeg 1272w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!T7Zz!, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/w_1456, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3755089c-2702-4457-b6a6-44440f292adc_4032x3024.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" 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y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Agence BNP Paribas Place de Clichy &#224; Paris</figcaption></figure></div><p>Sur les frais de courtage, les banques traditionnelles sont <strong>ch&#232;res</strong>. Certaines plus que d&#8217;autres, mais il y a <strong>une tr&#232;s faible concurrence tarifaire</strong> sur ce segment qui n&#8217;est <strong>pas strat&#233;gique</strong>.</p><p>Les banques traditionnelles donnent acc&#232;s &#224; <strong>un nombre limit&#233; de places boursi&#232;res</strong>, ne donnent pas acc&#232;s <strong>&#224; tous les ETF cot&#233;s en Europe</strong> et ne donnent g&#233;n&#233;ralement pas acc&#232;s &#224; certains produits complexes et tr&#232;s sp&#233;culatifs, ni aux crypto.</p><h3>Les banques en ligne</h3><p>Par &#8220;banques en ligne&#8221;, j&#8217;entends les acteurs qui &#233;taient <strong>100% en ligne d&#232;s leur cr&#233;ation</strong> et qui n&#8217;ont pas de r&#233;seau d&#8217;agences en propre.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Avec l&#8217;arriv&#233;e d&#8217;<strong>internet</strong>, la banque a cess&#233; d&#8217;&#234;tre n&#233;cessairement <strong>un commerce de proximit&#233;</strong>.</p><p><strong>BoursoBank </strong>a &#233;t&#233; l&#8217;un des premiers acteurs de la banque en ligne en France. </p><p>Cr&#233;&#233;e en 1998, la soci&#233;t&#233; &#233;tait &#224; l&#8217;origine une plateforme d&#8217;information boursi&#232;re en ligne, op&#233;rant sous la marque <strong>Boursorama</strong>, qui donnait acc&#232;s &#224; des donn&#233;es de march&#233; et &#224; des informations &#233;conomiques et financi&#232;res. </p><p>Rachet&#233;e en 2002 par <strong>Fimatex</strong>, un courtier appartenant au groupe <strong>Soci&#233;t&#233; G&#233;n&#233;rale</strong>, la soci&#233;t&#233; est devenue courtier en ligne puis banque, sous le nom de Fimatex Boursorama puis de <strong>Boursorama Banque</strong>, avant de prendre en octobre 2023 le nom de <strong>BoursoBank</strong><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a>.</p><p>Elle est aujourd&#8217;hui d&#233;tenue &#224; 100% par <strong>Soci&#233;t&#233; G&#233;n&#233;rale</strong>.</p><p>Autre acteur de la banque en ligne, <strong>Fortuneo</strong>. Cr&#233;&#233;e en 2000, Fortuneo &#233;tait &#224; l&#8217;origine un courtier en ligne. En 2001, la soci&#233;t&#233; change de nom et devient <strong>ProCapital</strong>.</p><p>Elle est rachet&#233;e en 2006 par <strong>Ark&#233;a </strong>(groupe <strong>Cr&#233;dit Mutuel de Bretagne</strong>) et devient une banque en ligne en 2009 sous le nom de <strong>Fortuneo Banque</strong>.</p><p><strong>HelloBank !</strong> est une banque en ligne lanc&#233;e en <strong>2013 </strong>par <strong>BNP Paribas</strong>. Ce n&#8217;est pas un acteur agressif sur les frais, en ligne avec la philosophie du groupe auquel il appartient.</p><p>Les tarifs de courtage des banques en ligne sont g&#233;n&#233;ralement <strong>inf&#233;rieurs </strong>&#224; ceux des banques traditionnelles. Ces banques &#233;tant filiales de groupes dans lesquels existe une banque &#224; r&#233;seau, elles ne sont pas tr&#232;s agressives sur les frais.</p><p>Elles donnent g&#233;n&#233;ralement acc&#232;s &#224; <strong>plus de bourses</strong>, <strong>&#224; plus d&#8217;ETF</strong> (mais pas &#224; tous) et &#224; des produits complexes et sp&#233;culatifs. Comme les banques traditionnelles, elles permettent g&#233;n&#233;ralement pas d&#8217;acc&#233;der aux crypto.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Abonnez-vous maintenant&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Abonnez-vous maintenant</span></a></p><h3>Les n&#233;o-courtiers</h3><p>Sont apparus plus r&#233;cemment des acteurs que l&#8217;on baptise <strong>n&#233;o-courtiers</strong> en fran&#231;ais, ou <strong>neo-brokers</strong> en anglais.</p><p>Quelques noms : <strong>DeGiro</strong>, <strong>eToro</strong>, <strong>Saxo</strong>, <strong>Scalable Capital</strong>, <strong>Trade Republic</strong>.</p><p>Les n&#233;o-courtiers sont g&#233;n&#233;ralement d&#233;tenus par <strong>des fonds de capital-risque</strong>.</p><p>Ces fonds prennent des participations dans des soci&#233;t&#233;s non cot&#233;es, au moment de leur cr&#233;ation ou peu de temps apr&#232;s et les accompagnent dans leur d&#233;veloppement. Ils vendent apr&#232;s quelques ann&#233;es leur participation si la soci&#233;t&#233; existe toujours<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a>.</p><p>Ces acteurs ont des <strong>tarifs de courtage</strong> beaucoup plus <strong>bas </strong>que ceux des banques traditionnelles et des banques en ligne, donnent g&#233;n&#233;ralement acc&#232;s &#224; <strong>plus de places boursi&#232;res</strong>, &#224; <strong>beaucoup plus d&#8217;ETF</strong>, &#224; des produits <strong>complexes </strong>et <strong>tr&#232;s sp&#233;culatifs</strong> et &#224; des nombreuses <strong>crypto</strong>, soit directement, soit via des produits ressemblant &#224; des ETF<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a>.</p><p>La plupart de ces acteurs ont int&#233;r&#234;t &#224; ce que leurs clients <strong>multiplient </strong>les transactions, ce qui n&#8217;est <strong>jamais </strong>bon pour la performance. Ils peuvent employer des m&#233;thodes jouant sur <strong>les ressorts et les failles psychologiques des humains</strong> pour inciter les clients &#224; acheter et vendre.</p><p>Je m&#8217;int&#233;resserai surtout &#224; <strong>Scalable Capital</strong> et &#224; <strong>Trade Republic</strong><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a>, deux soci&#233;t&#233;s allemandes actives en France.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9DiT!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F81d2a80b-5dc4-4b9d-94d2-896055124d24_3034x2151.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9DiT!, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/w_424, 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8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Elles connaissent un succ&#232;s consid&#233;rable aupr&#232;s des <strong>particuliers en Allemagne</strong> avec leurs <strong>plans d&#8217;&#233;pargne en ETF</strong>.</p><p>Le principe ? Vous mettez en place un <strong>programme automatique de versement</strong> sur un ou plusieurs ETF, pour <strong>un montant donn&#233;</strong>, &#224; une <strong>fr&#233;quence donn&#233;e</strong>.</p><p>Vous choisissez par exemple d&#8217;investir 100 euros tous les mois &#224; hauteur de 70 euros sur un ETF r&#233;pliquant la performance d&#8217;un panier tr&#232;s diversifi&#233; d&#8217;actions, comme l&#8217;indice MSCI World ou le FTSE All-World<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a> , et de 30 euros sur un ETF r&#233;pliquant la performance d&#8217;un panier tr&#232;s diversifi&#233; d&#8217;obligations.</p><p>Vous n&#8217;avez <strong>plus rien &#224; faire</strong>.</p><p>Vous n&#8217;avez pas &#224; choisir le &#8220;bon&#8221; moment pour investir (il n&#8217;y en a pas), puisque vous avez automatis&#233; ce choix.</p><p>Vous n&#8217;avez pas &#224; choisir la &#8220;bonne&#8221; action puisque vous achet&#233; un panier tr&#232;s diversifi&#233; d&#8217;actions.</p><p>Cerise sur le g&#226;teau : quand vous mettez en place un tel plan d&#8217;&#233;pargne en ETF, vous ne payez <strong>pas </strong>de frais de courtage<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-6" href="#footnote-6" target="_self">6</a>. </p><p>Ces deux acteurs permettent &#224; leurs clients d&#8217;acheter des <strong>fractions d&#8217;actions ou d&#8217;ETF</strong> dans le cadre des plans d&#8217;&#233;pargne, ce que les banques traditionnelles et les banques en ligne en France sont &#224; ma connaissance incapables de faire &#224; ce jour dans l&#8217;enveloppe du compte-titres ordinaire.</p><p>Si certains n&#233;o-courtiers ont &#233;galement un statut de <strong>banque </strong>(c&#8217;est le cas de <strong>Trade Republic</strong> depuis d&#233;cembre 2023), la plupart ne fournissent que des services de courtage.</p><p>Vous devrez donc alimenter le compte-esp&#232;ces de votre compte-titres ordinaire depuis le le compte-courant de votre banque principale, ce qui est aujourd&#8217;hui facile.</p><p>Pour le moment, les n&#233;o-courtiers actifs en France <strong>ne permettent pas d&#8217;ouvrir des compte-titres PEA ou PEA-PME</strong>, mais certains y  travaillent.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/ou-acheter-actions-et-etf?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Partager&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:&quot;button-wrapper&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary button-wrapper" href="/__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/ou-acheter-actions-et-etf?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Partager</span></a></p><p>Mais au fait, que se passe-t-il si mon interm&#233;diaire fait <strong>faillite </strong>?</p><p>La question est l&#233;gitime : si les Fran&#231;ais sont familiers des banques traditionnelles &#224; r&#233;seau, et ont donc plut&#244;t confiance en elles et en leur solidit&#233;, il n&#8217;en est pas de m&#234;me pour les banques en ligne.</p><p>Et encore moins pour les n&#233;o-courtiers, qui sont de surcro&#238;t aujourd&#8217;hui &#233;trangers, donc peu connus.</p><p> Je r&#233;pondrai &#224; cette question importante dans un prochain article.</p><div><hr></div><p><em>N&#8217;h&#233;sitez pas &#224; visiter le site d&#8217;Indexa Capital pour d&#233;couvrir le contrat Indexa Vie Spirica. J&#8217;y ai souscrit moi-m&#234;me.</em></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:&quot;button-wrapper&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary button-wrapper" href="https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ"><span>D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica</span></a></p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Je suis client de BoursoBank. J&#8217;y ai un compte-courant et un PEA.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Soit en l&#8217;introduisant en bourse, soit en vendant leur participation &#224; un ou plusieurs autres fonds, soit en la vendant &#224; une soci&#233;t&#233; du secteur.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Mais qui n&#8217;en sont pas.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>J&#8217;estime que les approches de eToro et DeGiro ne conviennent pas &#224; un investisseur de long terme, qui est celui auquel j&#8217;essaie de m&#8217;adresser dans <em>L&#8217;Odyss&#233;e des Placements</em>.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-5" href="#footnote-anchor-5" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">5</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Je reviendra prochainement sur les indices.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-6" href="#footnote-anchor-6" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">6</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Il serait trop complexe d&#8217;expliquer ici comment les interm&#233;diaires se r&#233;mun&#232;rent, puisqu&#8217;il faut bien qu&#8217;ils gagnent de l&#8217;argent. En (tr&#232;s) bref, soit ils per&#231;oivent de l&#8217;argent de la part des acteurs ex&#233;cutant les transactions en ETF pour le compte de leurs clients particuliers, soit ils per&#231;oivent de l&#8217;argent des fournisseurs d&#8217;ETF.</p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Les actions (6)]]></title><description><![CDATA[Les frais du compte-titres]]></description><link>https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/les-actions-6</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/les-actions-6</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Philippe Maupas]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2024 16:47:04 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3319ef82-7738-4971-a21e-05fa5bb8a682_4608x3008.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><hr></div><p><em>Le lancement de L&#8217;Odyss&#233;e des Placements est soutenu par <a href="https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ">Indexa Capital</a>.</em></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rFuu!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0b0b30cc-b164-4fd4-89bb-a4dd6b97ce6b_789x364.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rFuu!, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/w_424, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0b0b30cc-b164-4fd4-89bb-a4dd6b97ce6b_789x364.jpeg 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rFuu!, 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8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>En souscrivant <a href="https://indexacapital.com/fr/fra/?invitation_code=jV5EWJ">via ce lien</a> &#224; Indexa Vie Spirica, le contrat d'assurance vie en gestion sous mandat le moins cher de France, vous b&#233;n&#233;ficierez d'une remise de 40% sur les frais d'assurance (qui sont de 0,67%) pendant 12 mois, dans la limite de 15.000 euros de versement et sous r&#233;serve d'un versement initial minimum de 500 euros. Je b&#233;n&#233;ficie alors de la m&#234;me remise sur les frais de mon propre contrat Indexa Vie Spirica.</em></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:&quot;button-wrapper&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary button-wrapper" href="https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ"><span>D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica</span></a></p><div><hr></div><p>Nous avons d&#233;taill&#233; dans un <a href="/__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/les-actions-5">pr&#233;c&#233;dent billet</a> les diff&#233;rents types de comptes-titres.</p><p>La d&#233;tention de ces enveloppes vous permettant d&#8217;investir dans des titres financiers de diff&#233;rentes natures implique d&#8217;encourir des <strong>frais </strong>appartenant &#224; deux grandes familles :</p><ul><li><p>Frais sur les <strong>flux </strong>(les <strong>achats </strong>et les <strong>ventes</strong>).</p></li><li><p>Frais sur les <strong>stocks</strong>.</p></li></ul><p>Ces frais peuvent &#234;tre <strong>proportionnels </strong>au montant de la transaction ou de la valorisation des titres financiers ou <strong>forfaitaires</strong>.</p><p>Les frais sont fix&#233;s par l&#8217;interm&#233;diaire chez lequel vous ouvrez votre compte-titres. Ils viennent &#233;videmment <strong>en d&#233;duction</strong> de la performance de vos placements, et il importe donc de les <strong>minimiser</strong>.</p><p>Pour cela, analysez <strong>les grilles tarifaires</strong> des diff&#233;rents interm&#233;diaires : chacun a sa politique commerciale.</p><p>Gardez en t&#234;te que ces interm&#233;diaires sont des entit&#233;s &#224; but <strong>lucratif </strong>et que plus vous effectuez de transactions, plus leur chiffre d&#8217;affaires augmente.</p><p>Ils ont donc int&#233;r&#234;t &#224; vous inciter &#224; faire le plus de transactions possible, et certains utilisent pour cela des moyens <strong>d&#233;loyaux </strong>int&#233;gr&#233;s au design de leur site ou de leur application, utilisant les ressorts psychologiques qui nous incitent &#224; r&#233;pondre inconsciemment &#224; certains stimuli. </p><p>Gardez &#233;galement en t&#234;te que les &#233;tudes acad&#233;miques montrent que <strong>plus les investisseurs non professionnels font de transactions</strong>, <strong>moins bonne est leur performance</strong>.</p><p>L&#8217;int&#233;r&#234;t de votre interm&#233;diaire (dont le chiffre d&#8217;affaires est fonction du nombre de transactions de ses clients) n&#8217;est donc pas n&#233;cessairement align&#233; avec le v&#244;tre.</p><h3>Les frais sur les flux</h3><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PlUm!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3319ef82-7738-4971-a21e-05fa5bb8a682_4608x3008.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PlUm!, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/w_424, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/f_webp, 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y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Photo de <a href="https://unsplash.com/fr/@mikeanywhere?utm_content=creditCopyText&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_source=unsplash">Mike Lewis HeadSmart Media</a> sur <a href="https://unsplash.com/fr/photos/cascade-pendant-la-journee-waAAaeC9hns?utm_content=creditCopyText&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_source=unsplash">Unsplash</a></figcaption></figure></div><p>Quand vous passez un ordre en bourse, que ce soit pour <strong>acheter </strong>ou <strong>vendre </strong>des <strong>actions </strong>ou des <strong>ETF </strong>(&#224; savoir des fonds cot&#233;s en bourse, ou Exchange Traded Funds<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a>), vous paierez des <strong>frais de transaction</strong>, commun&#233;ment appel&#233;s <strong>frais de courtage</strong>.</p><p>Ces frais peuvent &#234;tre <strong>forfaitaires </strong>ou <strong>proportionnels </strong>au montant de la transaction. Ils peuvent varier <strong>en fonction de la place boursi&#232;re</strong> sur laquelle les ordres sont ex&#233;cut&#233;s. Il existe parfois un <strong>montant minimum</strong> de perception.</p><p>Sur certains instruments financiers et dans certaines juridictions, des <strong>taxes </strong>sont susceptibles de s&#8217;ajouter aux frais de courtage r&#233;mun&#233;rant votre interm&#233;diaire.</p><p>En France, il existe ainsi une <strong>taxe sur les transactions financi&#232;res</strong> dont le taux actuel est de <strong>0,3%</strong>, s&#8217;appliquant sous certaines conditions lors de <strong>l&#8217;achat d&#8217;actions en bourse</strong>. Cette taxe est collect&#233;e par votre interm&#233;diaire qui en reverse ensuite le produit &#224; l&#8217;Etat. </p><p>Elle concerne les actions de soci&#233;t&#233;s ayant leur si&#232;ge social <strong>en France</strong> et dont la <strong>capitalisation boursi&#232;re</strong> d&#233;passe <strong>1 milliard d&#8217;euros</strong> au 1er d&#233;cembre, avec une <strong>mise &#224; jour annuelle</strong> via une publication dans la base documentaire BOFiP-Imp&#244;ts.</p><p>La liste des soci&#233;t&#233;s incluses dans le p&#233;rim&#232;tre de cette taxe au <strong>1er d&#233;cembre 2023</strong> est consultable <a href="https://bofip.impots.gouv.fr/bofip/9789-PGP.html/identifiant%3DBOI-ANNX-000467-20231220">ici</a>.</p><p>Le r&#233;gulateur des march&#233;s financiers en France, l&#8217;AMF, suit <strong>la moyenne</strong> des frais factur&#233;s par les banques et les sp&#233;cialistes en ligne. Je rappelle qu&#8217;une <strong>moyenne </strong>peut masquer des <strong>disparit&#233;s importantes</strong>.</p><p>Voici les derniers chiffres publi&#233;s par l&#8217;AMF sur la base des tarifs de 9 banques &#224; r&#233;seau au 1er janvier 2023.</p><div id="datawrapper-iframe" class="datawrapper-wrap outer" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/YQDAq/1/&quot;,&quot;thumbnail_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/391469f0-647f-44ae-b6aa-2a89056eb0ef_1260x660.png&quot;,&quot;thumbnail_url_full&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:276,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;Banques : frais moyens des ordres internet (ordres pass&#233;s sur Euronext Paris)&quot;,&quot;description&quot;:&quot;Create interactive, responsive &amp; beautiful charts &#8212; no code required.&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="DatawrapperToDOM"><iframe id="iframe-datawrapper" class="datawrapper-iframe" src="https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/YQDAq/1/" width="730" height="276" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" loading="lazy"></iframe><script type="text/javascript">!function(){"use strict";window.addEventListener("message",(function(e){if(void 0!==e.data["datawrapper-height"]){var t=document.querySelectorAll("iframe");for(var a in e.data["datawrapper-height"])for(var r=0;r<t.length;r++){if(t[r].contentWindow===e.source)t[r].style.height=e.data["datawrapper-height"][a]+"px"}}}))}();</script></div><p>Voici les chiffres pour les ordres pass&#233;s sur internet aupr&#232;s de 10 <strong>sp&#233;cialistes en ligne</strong> : pour les transactions comparables, ces sp&#233;cialistes sont en moyenne <strong>bien moins chers</strong> que les banques.</p><div id="datawrapper-iframe" class="datawrapper-wrap outer" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/xlKSw/1/&quot;,&quot;thumbnail_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/235f6b04-71a8-4988-a643-9633f2cc3556_1260x660.png&quot;,&quot;thumbnail_url_full&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:369,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;Frais de courtage moyens pour les ordres pass&#233;s sur internet aupr&#232;s des sp&#233;cialistes en ligne&quot;,&quot;description&quot;:&quot;Create interactive, responsive &amp; beautiful charts &#8212; no code required.&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="DatawrapperToDOM"><iframe id="iframe-datawrapper" class="datawrapper-iframe" src="https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/xlKSw/1/" width="730" height="369" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" loading="lazy"></iframe><script type="text/javascript">!function(){"use strict";window.addEventListener("message",(function(e){if(void 0!==e.data["datawrapper-height"]){var t=document.querySelectorAll("iframe");for(var a 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y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Photo de <a href="https://unsplash.com/fr/@sulyok_imaging?utm_content=creditCopyText&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_source=unsplash">Adrian Sulyok</a> sur <a href="https://unsplash.com/fr/photos/lot-de-boites-en-plastique-jaune-et-blanc-sczNLg6rrhQ?utm_content=creditCopyText&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_source=unsplash">Unsplash</a></figcaption></figure></div><p>Certains interm&#233;diaires facturent p&#233;riodiquement (g&#233;n&#233;ralement une fois par an) des frais <strong>proportionnels </strong>&#224; la <strong>valorisation </strong>de tout ou partie de votre portefeuille &#224; un instant t (g&#233;n&#233;ralement le dernier jour boursier de l&#8217;ann&#233;e).</p><p>Une tarification <strong>par ligne</strong> (des actions d&#8217;une m&#234;me soci&#233;t&#233; ou un fonds = une ligne) peut &#233;galement s&#8217;appliquer et se <strong>cumuler </strong>avec les frais proportionnels. </p><p>Ces frais sont souvent appel&#233;s des <strong>droits de garde</strong>.</p><p>Gardez en t&#234;te que les co&#251;ts encourus par votre interm&#233;diaire ne sont <strong>pas proportionnels</strong> &#224; la valorisation de votre portefeuille : ils sont dans leur immense majorit&#233; <strong>fixes</strong>.</p><p>Voici les derni&#232;res donn&#233;es de l&#8217;AMF relatives aux droits de garde des <strong>banques &#224; r&#233;seau</strong>, sur la base des tarifs au 1er janvier 2023 de 9 banques.</p><div id="datawrapper-iframe" class="datawrapper-wrap outer" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/umMA3/1/&quot;,&quot;thumbnail_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/d9373877-4797-4172-bbdd-9ebb2c54ed2a_1260x660.png&quot;,&quot;thumbnail_url_full&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:306,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;Banques : droits de garde moyens&quot;,&quot;description&quot;:&quot;Create interactive, responsive 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valorisation du plan</strong>, avec une majoration possible par ligne de 5 &#8364; au plus pour les titres cot&#233;s et de 25 &#8364; au plus pour les titres non cot&#233;s.  </p><p>L&#8217;AMF ne publie pas de donn&#233;es sur les droits de garde pour les acteurs en ligne : sachez que les tarifs pratiqu&#233;s sont <strong>tr&#232;s inf&#233;rieurs</strong> &#224; ceux des banques &#224; r&#233;seau, car la plupart des courtiers en ligne ne facturent <strong>pas </strong>de droits de garde.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Abonnez-vous maintenant&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Abonnez-vous maintenant</span></a></p><h3>Autres frais</h3><p>Certains interm&#233;diaires pr&#233;voient des frais s&#8217;appliquant en cas d&#8217;<strong>inactivit&#233;</strong> sur votre compte-titres. Par exemple, si vous n&#8217;effectuez pas de transaction pendant une p&#233;riode donn&#233;e (un mois civil), un montant <strong>forfaitaire </strong>vous sera factur&#233;.</p><p>Si de tels frais d&#8217;inactivit&#233; existent, votre interm&#233;diaire vous signale presque explicitement qu&#8217;il veut que vous fassiez des transactions.</p><p>Dans un prochain billet, je m&#8217;int&#233;resserai aux diff&#233;rentes familles d&#8217;interm&#233;diaires permettant d&#8217;ouvrir des comptes-titres.</p><div><hr></div><p><em>N&#8217;h&#233;sitez pas &#224; visiter le site d&#8217;Indexa Capital pour d&#233;couvrir le contrat Indexa Vie Spirica. J&#8217;y ai souscrit moi-m&#234;me.</em></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:&quot;button-wrapper&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary button-wrapper" href="https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ"><span>D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica</span></a></p><div><hr></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Je reviendrai en d&#233;tail sur ces produits ult&#233;rieurement.</p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Les actions (5)]]></title><description><![CDATA[O&#249; l'on explore l'univers du compte-titres]]></description><link>https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/les-actions-5</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/les-actions-5</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Philippe Maupas]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2024 17:13:32 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffdfae1e9-3cac-4f8a-9664-37d6de727e33_4032x3024.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><hr></div><p><em>Le lancement de L&#8217;Odyss&#233;e des Placements est soutenu par <a href="https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ">Indexa Capital</a>.</em></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rFuu!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0b0b30cc-b164-4fd4-89bb-a4dd6b97ce6b_789x364.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div 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mandat le moins cher de France, vous b&#233;n&#233;ficierez d'une remise de 40% sur les frais d'assurance (qui sont de 0,67%) pendant 12 mois, dans la limite de 15.000 euros de versement et sous r&#233;serve d'un versement initial minimum de 500 euros. Je b&#233;n&#233;ficie alors de la m&#234;me remise sur les frais de mon propre contrat Indexa Vie Spirica.</em></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:&quot;button-wrapper&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary button-wrapper" href="https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ"><span>D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica</span></a></p><div><hr></div><p>Je vous souhaite une excellente ann&#233;e 2024.</p><p>Nous avons explor&#233; dans les billets pr&#233;c&#233;dents l&#8217;univers des <strong>actions</strong> : l&#8217;heure est venue de nous int&#233;resser &#224; <strong>l&#8217;enveloppe </strong>permettant d&#8217;acheter et de vendre des <strong>valeurs mobili&#232;res</strong>, dont font partie les actions.</p><p>De m&#234;me que vous disposez d&#8217;un <strong>compte-courant</strong> 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y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Photo de <a href="https://unsplash.com/fr/@solenfeyissa?utm_content=creditCopyText&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_source=unsplash">Solen Feyissa</a> sur <a href="https://unsplash.com/fr/photos/oeuf-bleu-sur-nid-brun-CvstEmd-tK0?utm_content=creditCopyText&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_source=unsplash">Unsplash</a></figcaption></figure></div><p>Cette enveloppe n&#8217;est pas physique, comme le cochon servant de tirelire aux enfants : c&#8217;est <strong>une entr&#233;e</strong> dans une <strong>base de donn&#233;es</strong>.</p><p>On ouvre un compte-titres aupr&#232;s d&#8217;un <strong>interm&#233;diaire financier</strong> : une banque, qu&#8217;elle soit traditionnelle (avec un r&#233;seau d&#8217;agences) ou exclusivement en ligne, ou un courtier en ligne.</p><p>Il existe diff&#233;rents types de comptes-titres.</p><h3>Le compte-titres ordinaire (CTO)</h3><p>C&#8217;est <strong>le plus 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du contribuable :</p><ul><li><p>Au pr&#233;l&#232;vement forfaitaire unique (<strong>PFU</strong>) aux taux global de <strong>30%</strong> (12,8% au titre de l&#8217;imp&#244;t sur le revenu et 17,2% au titre des pr&#233;l&#232;vements sociaux) ;</p></li><li><p>Ou &#224; un pr&#233;l&#232;vement de 17,2 % au titre des pr&#233;l&#232;vements sociaux et &#224; l&#8217;imposition au bar&#234;me progressif de l&#8217;imp&#244;t sur le revenu.</p></li></ul><h3>Le plan d&#8217;&#233;pargne en actions (PEA)</h3><p>Cette enveloppe a &#233;t&#233; cr&#233;&#233;e en <strong>1992 </strong>pour d&#233;velopper la d&#233;tention d&#8217;actions par les particuliers.</p><p>Le PEA, qui s&#8217;ouvre chez le m&#234;me type d&#8217;interm&#233;diaires financiers que le CTO, est un compte-titres bien <strong>moins souple d&#8217;utilisation</strong> que le CTO.</p><p>Ne sont &#233;ligibles au PEA que les actions d&#8217;entreprises cot&#233;es<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a> ayant leur si&#232;ge social dans  <strong>l&#8217;Union europ&#233;enne</strong> (UE) ou dans un Etat de <strong>l&#8217;Espace &#233;conomique europ&#233;en</strong> (EEE) et les parts de fonds investis pour au moins <strong>75% de leur actif</strong> en actions d&#8217;entreprises europ&#233;ennes.</p><div id="datawrapper-iframe" class="datawrapper-wrap outer" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/TUZGG/1/&quot;,&quot;thumbnail_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/7282d248-9e98-4aac-ad13-9a5ab4479615_1260x660.png&quot;,&quot;thumbnail_url_full&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:636,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;Pays de l'Union europ&#233;enne (UE) et de l'Espace &#233;conomique europ&#233;en (EEE)&quot;,&quot;description&quot;:&quot;Create interactive, responsive &amp; beautiful charts &#8212; no code required.&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="DatawrapperToDOM"><iframe id="iframe-datawrapper" class="datawrapper-iframe" src="https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/TUZGG/1/" width="730" height="636" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" loading="lazy"></iframe><script type="text/javascript">!function(){"use strict";window.addEventListener("message",(function(e){if(void 0!==e.data["datawrapper-height"]){var t=document.querySelectorAll("iframe");for(var a in e.data["datawrapper-height"])for(var r=0;r<t.length;r++){if(t[r].contentWindow===e.source)t[r].style.height=e.data["datawrapper-height"][a]+"px"}}}))}();</script></div><p>Notez que ni la <strong>Suisse</strong>, ni le <strong>Royaume-Uni</strong> ne font partie de l&#8217;EEE. Les actions des soci&#233;t&#233;s ayant leur si&#232;ge social dans l&#8217;un de ces deux pays ne peuvent par cons&#233;quent <strong>pas </strong>&#234;tre log&#233;es dans un PEA.</p><p>En revanche, on peut en trouver dans des fonds &#233;ligibles au PEA.</p><p>Le PEA est r&#233;serv&#233; aux personnes <strong>majeures </strong>domicili&#233;es fiscalement en <strong>France</strong>. <strong>Un seul PEA par personne</strong> est autoris&#233;.</p><p>Le PEA dans sa version classique bancaire (voir ci-dessous) est accompagn&#233; d&#8217;un <strong>compte-esp&#232;ces</strong>, sur lequel transitent&#8230; les esp&#232;ces, qui peuvent <strong>ne pas &#234;tre investies</strong>.</p><p>Il existe diff&#233;rents types de PEA.</p><h4>Le PEA classique bancaire</h4><p>C&#8217;est le type dominant. Selon la <a href="https://www.banque-france.fr/fr/publications-et-statistiques/statistiques/plan-depargne-en-actions-pea">Banque de France</a>, il y avait 5 199 109 PEA bancaires ouverts &#224; fin 2022.</p><h4>Le PEA classique assurance</h4><p>Il est souscrit aupr&#232;s d&#8217;une compagnie d&#8217;assurance et prend la forme d'un contrat de capitalisation en unit&#233;s de compte<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a>.</p><p>Selon la <a href="https://www.banque-france.fr/fr/publications-et-statistiques/statistiques/plan-depargne-en-actions-pea">Banque de France</a>, il y avait 1 269 378 PEA assurance ouverts &#224; fin 2022.</p><p>Pour le PEA bancaire comme pour le PEA assurance, <strong>le plafond de versement</strong> est de <strong>150 000 &#8364;</strong>.</p><p>Les PEA h&#233;bergeaient un peu plus de <strong>100 milliards d&#8217;euros</strong> de titres &#224; fin 2022 et les comptes-esp&#232;ces associ&#233;s des PEA bancaires pr&#232;s de <strong>18,5 milliards d&#8217;euros</strong>.</p><h4>Le PEA-PME</h4><p>L&#8217;enveloppe a &#233;t&#233; mise en place le <strong>1er janvier 2014</strong>. Comme pour son grand fr&#232;re le PEA, le PEA-PME existe dans deux version : <strong>bancaire </strong>et <strong>assurance</strong>.</p><p>Selon la <a href="https://www.banque-france.fr/fr/publications-et-statistiques/statistiques/plan-depargne-en-actions-pea">Banque de France</a>, il y avait 249 439 PEA ouverts &#224; fin 2022, donc 108 620 PEA bancaires et 140 819 PEA assurance.</p><p>Le PEA-PME est r&#233;serv&#233; aux personnes <strong>majeures </strong>domicili&#233;es fiscalement en <strong>France</strong>. <strong>Un seul PEA-PME par personne</strong> est autoris&#233;. On peut cumuler la d&#233;tention d&#8217;un PEA et d&#8217;un PEA-PME.</p><p>Comme son nom le laisse penser, le PEA-PME est r&#233;serv&#233; aux <strong>petites et moyennes entreprises</strong> (PME) et aux <strong>entreprises de taille interm&#233;diaire</strong> (ETI) r&#233;pondant aux crit&#232;res suivants :</p><ul><li><p>moins de 5 000 salari&#233;s ;</p></li><li><p>chiffre d&#8217;affaires inf&#233;rieur ou &#233;gal &#224; 1,5 milliard d&#8217;euros ou total d&#8217;actif au bilan inf&#233;rieur ou &#233;gal &#224; 2 milliards d&#8217;euros.</p></li></ul><p>Le plafond de versements sur un PEA-PME est de <strong>225 000 euros</strong>, mais en cas de d&#233;tention d&#8217;un PEA et d&#8217;un PEA-PME, la somme la somme <strong>totale </strong>vers&#233;e sur les 2 plans par un m&#234;me titulaire est plafonn&#233;e &#224; <strong>225 000 euros</strong>.</p><p>Si vous d&#233;tenez un PEA et avez atteint le plafond de 150 000 euros de versement, vous ne pourrez donc verser que <strong>75 000 euros</strong> sur votre PEA-PME.</p><p>Les PEA-PME h&#233;bergeaient un peu moins de <strong>2,4 milliards d&#8217;euros</strong> de titres &#224; fin 2022 et les comptes-esp&#232;ces associ&#233;s des PEA bancaires <strong>680 millions d&#8217;euros</strong>.</p><p>Les actions des petites et moyennes entreprises cot&#233;es sont consid&#233;r&#233;es comme <strong>plus risqu&#233;es</strong> que celles des grandes entreprises.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/les-actions-5?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Partager&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/les-actions-5?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Partager</span></a></p><h3>La fiscalit&#233; du PEA</h3><div 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y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Le collecteur d&#8217;imp&#244;ts, Marinus van Reymerswale, Mus&#233;e du Louvre</figcaption></figure></div><p>La fiscalit&#233; du PEA (et celle, identique, du PEA-PME) est g&#233;n&#233;ralement plus cl&#233;mente que celle du CTO, les gains (revenus et plus-values) pouvant &#234;tre <strong>exon&#233;r&#233;s d&#8217;imp&#244;t sur le revenu</strong>.</p><h4>Retrait ou rachat avant 5 ans</h4><p>Un retrait ou rachat effectu&#233; sur un PEA pendant les cinq premi&#232;res ann&#233;es de son existence entra&#238;ne automatiquement <strong>la cl&#244;ture du plan</strong>.</p><p>Le gain net r&#233;alis&#233; depuis l'ouverture est alors soumis au pr&#233;l&#232;vement forfaitaire unique au taux de <strong>30%</strong> dont <strong>17,2% de pr&#233;l&#232;vements sociaux</strong> et <strong>12,8% au titre de l&#8217;imp&#244;t sur le revenu</strong><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a>.</p><p>Il existe des cas d&#8217;exon&#233;ration d&#8217;imp&#244;t sur le revenu : licenciement, invalidit&#233;, mise &#224; la retraite, d&#233;c&#232;s du titulaire du plan, affectation des sommes au financement de la cr&#233;ation ou de la reprise d&#8217;une entreprise<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a>.</p><h4>Retrait ou rachat apr&#232;s 5 ans</h4><p>Apr&#232;s 5 ans<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a>, les revenus et les plus-values ne sont pas soumis &#224; l&#8217;imp&#244;t sur le revenu et les retraits ou rachats n&#8217;entra&#238;nent pas la cl&#244;ture du plan.</p><p>Les gains nets restent soumis aux pr&#233;l&#232;vements sociaux.</p><p>Les titres <strong>non cot&#233;s</strong> sont soumis &#224; un r&#233;gime particulier : leurs revenus (dividendes dans le cas d&#8217;actions) sont exon&#233;r&#233;s, chaque ann&#233;e, dans la limite de 10 % de la valeur d'acquisition de ces titres.</p><p>Les PEA de type &#8220;assurance&#8221; poss&#232;dent des particularit&#233;s qui rendent &#224; mon avis n&#233;cessaire le recours &#224; un <strong>conseil</strong>.</p><p>Notez qu&#8217;il est possible de choisir de sortir d&#8217;un PEA assurance en <strong>rente viag&#232;re, </strong>&#224; savoir une somme qui vous sera vers&#233;e jusqu&#8217;&#224; votre mort selon une p&#233;riodicit&#233; d&#233;finie &#224; l&#8217;avance.</p><p>Le montant de la rente d&#233;pend de <strong>l&#8217;&#226;ge du titulaire</strong>, de la <strong>somme </strong>disponible sur le plan et de <strong>l&#8217;assureur</strong>. Je rappelle qu&#8217;en optant pour une rente, vous renoncez <strong>d&#233;finitivement </strong>&#224; votre capital au profit de l&#8217;assureur qui va vous verser la rente.</p><p>Notez &#233;galement que, au cas o&#249; vous souhaiteriez b&#233;n&#233;ficier d&#8217;une rente, vous pouvez transformer votre PEA classique bancaire en PEA assurance. Cette transformation peut entra&#238;ner des <strong>frais</strong>.</p><p>Le choix de sortir d&#8217;une enveloppe de type assurance en rente a des cons&#233;quences <strong>consid&#233;rables </strong>qui l&#233;gitiment &#233;galement de recourir &#224; un <strong>conseil</strong>.</p><p>Attention, certains &#8220;conseils&#8221; sont avant tout des vendeurs et n&#8217;ont pas n&#233;cessairement <strong>votre seul int&#233;r&#234;t </strong>&#224; l&#8217;esprit.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Abonnez-vous maintenant&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Abonnez-vous maintenant</span></a></p><p>Dans les prochains billets, je m&#8217; int&#233;resserai aux <strong>frais </strong>des comptes-titres et aux <strong>modalit&#233;s de passage des ordres</strong> d&#8217;achat et de vente de titres financiers.</p><div><hr></div><p><em>N&#8217;h&#233;sitez pas &#224; visiter le site d&#8217;Indexa Capital pour d&#233;couvrir le contrat Indexa Vie Spirica. J&#8217;y ai souscrit moi-m&#234;me.</em></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:&quot;button-wrapper&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary button-wrapper" href="https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ"><span>D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica</span></a></p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Et sous certaines conditions non cot&#233;es.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Nous reviendrons sur cette enveloppe quand nous aborderons l&#8217;assurance vie.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>On peut aussi opter pour une imposition au bar&#232;me progressif de l'imp&#244;t sur le revenu, les pr&#233;l&#232;vements sociaux &#233;tant <strong>toujours </strong>dus.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Sous conditions.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-5" href="#footnote-anchor-5" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">5</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>A compter de la date d&#8217;ouverture, qui est la date du <strong>premier versement</strong> sur le plan.</p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Les actions (4)]]></title><description><![CDATA[Les acheter et les vendre]]></description><link>https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/les-actions-4</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/les-actions-4</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Philippe Maupas]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2023 16:24:33 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5af49810-d47e-444e-89ae-d3457cda9d5e_1280x720.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><div><hr></div><p><em>Le lancement de L&#8217;Odyss&#233;e des Placements est soutenu par <a href="https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ">Indexa Capital</a>.</em></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>En souscrivant <a href="https://indexacapital.com/fr/fra/?invitation_code=jV5EWJ">via ce lien</a> &#224; Indexa Vie Spirica, le contrat d'assurance vie en gestion sous mandat le moins cher de France, vous b&#233;n&#233;ficierez d'une remise de 40% sur les frais d'assurance (qui sont de 0,67%) pendant 12 mois, dans la limite de 15.000 euros de versement et sous r&#233;serve d'un versement initial minimum de 500 euros. Je b&#233;n&#233;ficie alors de la m&#234;me remise sur les frais de mon propre contrat Indexa Vie Spirica.</em></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:&quot;button-wrapper&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary button-wrapper" href="https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ"><span>D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica</span></a></p><div><hr></div><p>Une action repr&#233;sente une <strong>fraction </strong>du <strong>capital </strong>d&#8217;une entreprise et donne certains droits, dont celui de percevoir des <strong>dividendes </strong>quand la soci&#233;t&#233; en distribue et celui de <strong>voter </strong>les r&#233;solutions pr&#233;sent&#233;es lors des assembl&#233;es g&#233;n&#233;rales des actionnaires.</p><p>Je rappelle qu&#8217;en cas de <strong>faillite </strong>de la soci&#233;t&#233;, les actionnaires passent <strong>en dernier</strong>, loin derri&#232;re des groupes prioritaires, dont les <strong>cr&#233;anciers<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a></strong>. Dans le pire des cas, les actions ne valent plus rien et les actionnaires perdent leur mise.</p><p>Je rappelle aussi que l&#8217;immense majorit&#233; des entreprises sont <strong>priv&#233;es </strong>(c&#8217;est-&#224;-dire <strong>non cot&#233;es en bourse</strong>) et que le nombre de soci&#233;t&#233;s cot&#233;es est relativement modeste<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a>.</p><p>Comment s&#8217;ach&#232;tent et se vendent les actions ?</p><h3>Les actions, des titres d&#233;mat&#233;rialis&#233;s</h3><p>En France, jusqu&#8217;en <strong>1984</strong>, les titres financiers &#8212; dont les actions &#8212; &#233;taient <strong>imprim&#233;s</strong> (titres papier).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" 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/__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2b9907e1-55fa-4012-866a-4655dde37f3a_300x218.jpeg 1272w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VpBW!, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/w_1456, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2b9907e1-55fa-4012-866a-4655dde37f3a_300x218.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Action des Galeries Lafayette</figcaption></figure></div><p>Depuis le 5 novembre 1984, les actions sont <strong>d&#233;mat&#233;rialis&#233;es</strong> sous forme d&#8217;une <strong>inscription </strong>dans les <strong>comptes-titres</strong> ouverts au sein des institutions financi&#232;res habilit&#233;es.</p><h3>March&#233; primaire vs march&#233; secondaire</h3><p>Par convention, quand de <strong>nouvelles actions</strong> sont <strong>cr&#233;&#233;es </strong>par une soci&#233;t&#233;, elles sont <strong>&#233;mises </strong>sur le march&#233; qualifi&#233; de &#8220;<strong>primaire</strong>&#8221; et le produit de leur vente revient &#224; <strong>l&#8217;entreprise</strong>.</p><p>Une fois ces nouvelles actions &#233;mises, elles poursuivent leur vie et se traitent (s&#8217;ach&#232;tent et se vendent) sur le march&#233; dit &#171;&nbsp;<strong>secondaire&nbsp;</strong>&#187;. Le <strong>produit </strong>de la vente des actions de la <strong>soci&#233;t&#233; </strong>est alors per&#231;u par le <strong>vendeur</strong>, pas par la soci&#233;t&#233;.</p><p>Ce march&#233; peut &#234;tre <strong>organis&#233; </strong>et <strong>r&#233;glement&#233; </strong>(une <strong>bourse</strong> pour les soci&#233;t&#233;s cot&#233;es) ou <strong>non organis&#233;</strong>, de <strong>gr&#233; &#224; gr&#233;</strong>, pour les soci&#233;t&#233;s <strong>non cot&#233;es</strong> (&#8220;priv&#233;es&#8221;).</p><h3>Soci&#233;t&#233;s priv&#233;es</h3><p>Les transactions s&#8217;effectuent donc de <strong>gr&#233; &#224; gr&#233;</strong> entre le <strong>vendeur </strong>et <strong>l&#8217;acheteur</strong>, qui doivent &#234;tre d&#8217;accord sur le <strong>prix </strong>et la <strong>quantit&#233;</strong>.</p><p>Dans la plupart des cas, les actions sont <strong>librement cessibles</strong>. </p><p>Il existe parfois un <strong>pacte d&#8217;actionnaires</strong>, qui est un <strong>contrat </strong>d&#233;taillant les modalit&#233;s applicables en bas de vente d&#8217;actions.</p><p>La plupart des soci&#233;t&#233;s par actions ont l&#8217;obligation de tenir un <strong>registre des actionnaires</strong>, dans lequel les d&#233;tails de <strong>toutes les transactions</strong> sont report&#233;s.</p><p>Ce registre peut &#234;tre <strong>physique </strong>ou <strong>virtuel</strong>.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/les-actions-4?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Partager&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:&quot;button-wrapper&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary button-wrapper" href="/__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/les-actions-4?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Partager</span></a></p><h3>Soci&#233;t&#233;s cot&#233;es</h3><p>Un <strong>march&#233;</strong>, c&#8217;est un lieu, <strong>physique </strong>ou <strong>virtuel</strong>, sur lequel <strong>s&#8217;&#233;changent </strong>des biens ou des services.</p><p><strong>L&#8217;offre </strong>(les <strong>vendeurs</strong>) y rencontre la <strong>demande </strong>(les <strong>acheteurs</strong>) et des <strong>transactions </strong>ont lieu quand le vendeur et l&#8217;acheteur tombent <strong>d&#8217;accord </strong>sur une <strong>quantit&#233; </strong>et un <strong>prix</strong>.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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/__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F21756f22-68bb-4763-9dad-eff569110288_5472x3648.jpeg 1272w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LGHX!, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/w_1456, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F21756f22-68bb-4763-9dad-eff569110288_5472x3648.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Photo de <a href="https://unsplash.com/fr/@didier_provost?utm_content=creditCopyText&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_source=unsplash">Didier Provost</a> sur <a href="https://unsplash.com/fr/photos/personnes-au-marche-pendant-la-journee-v8IbdsPXo7U?utm_content=creditCopyText&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_source=unsplash">Unsplash</a></figcaption></figure></div><p>Il existe des march&#233;s sp&#233;cialis&#233;s qui permettent aux acheteurs et aux vendeurs <strong>d&#8217;actions </strong>de r&#233;aliser des transactions : des <strong>bourses</strong>.</p><p>Une des premi&#232;res fut celle d&#8217;<strong>Amsterdam</strong>, qui vit le jour apr&#232;s la cr&#233;ation en 1602 de la <strong>Compagnie n&#233;erlandaise des Indes orientales</strong> (VOC, pour Vereenigde Oost-Indische Compagnie), qui avait plus de 1.000 actionnaires<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a>, pr&#233;cis&#233;ment pour permettre &#224; ces actionnaires de pouvoir vendre leurs actions.</p><p>Je reviendrai en d&#233;tail ult&#233;rieurement sur les bourses. Par le jeu de rachats, certaines sont devenues <strong>gigantesques</strong>, notamment aux Etats-Unis et au Royaume-Uni, et sont bien plus que des places de march&#233; o&#249; s&#8217;&#233;changent les actions.</p><p>Pour le moment, il suffit de savoir que les bourses sont des march&#233;s <strong>tr&#232;s r&#233;glement&#233;s</strong> sur lesquels les investisseurs peuvent <strong>acheter </strong>et <strong>vendre </strong>des <strong>actions cot&#233;es</strong> ainsi que, de plus en plus, des <strong>fonds cot&#233;s en bourse</strong> (<strong>ETF</strong>, pour <strong>exchange traded funds</strong><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a>).</p><p>Nous avons vu que les actions avaient &#233;t&#233; des titres papier avant d&#8217;&#234;tre <strong>d&#233;mat&#233;rialis&#233;es</strong>. </p><p>Sur le m&#234;me mod&#232;le &#8220;physique&#8221;, les transactions sur les actions se sont longtemps faites <strong>&#224; la cri&#233;e</strong>, &#224; Paris autour de la <strong>corbeille </strong>du <strong>Palais Brongniart</strong>.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rOaD!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5ade2a53-1df3-4665-a64b-52997d1d5c17_5636x4333.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rOaD!, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/w_424, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5ade2a53-1df3-4665-a64b-52997d1d5c17_5636x4333.jpeg 424w, 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y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">A la bourse, Honor&#233; Daumier (Valmondois, lithographe) - 1856</figcaption></figure></div><p>En France, les <strong>agents de change</strong>, qui b&#233;n&#233;ficiaient du statut <strong>d'officiers minist&#233;riels</strong> tout en exer&#231;ant une activit&#233; commerciale dans des soci&#233;t&#233;s de droit priv&#233; (des &#8220;charges&#8221;), ont eu le <strong>monopole de l&#8217;ex&#233;cution des transactions en bourse</strong> jusqu&#8217;en <strong>1987</strong>.</p><p>Les transactions sur les actions ont migr&#233; sur des <strong>r&#233;seaux &#233;lectroniques</strong> en <strong>1987 </strong>pour la bourse de Paris.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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href="https://pixabay.com/fr/users/mightyfinebros-17490253/?utm_source=link-attribution&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_campaign=image&amp;utm_content=7388620">Jonathan Hammond</a> de <a href="https://pixabay.com/fr//?utm_source=link-attribution&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_campaign=image&amp;utm_content=7388620">Pixabay</a></figcaption></figure></div><p>Dans un prochain billet, j&#8217;expliquerai le fonctionnement du <strong>compte titres</strong>, qui est <strong>l&#8217;enveloppe de d&#233;tention des actions</strong>, ainsi que les diff&#233;rents types d&#8217;ordres pour faire des transactions en actions.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Abonnez-vous maintenant&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Abonnez-vous maintenant</span></a></p><p>Je vous souhaite d&#8217;excellentes f&#234;tes de fin d&#8217;ann&#233;e.</p><div><hr></div><p><em>N&#8217;h&#233;sitez pas &#224; visiter le site d&#8217;Indexa Capital pour d&#233;couvrir le contrat Indexa Vie Spirica. J&#8217;y ai souscrit moi-m&#234;me.</em></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:&quot;button-wrapper&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary button-wrapper" href="https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ"><span>D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica</span></a></p><div><hr></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Qui sont toutes les entit&#233;s auxquelles la soci&#233;t&#233; doit de l&#8217;argent.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>A fin novembre 2023, l&#8217;indice MSCI ACWI IMI Index comprenait 9182 soci&#233;t&#233;s de grandes, moyennes et petites capitalisations dans 23 pays consid&#233;r&#233;s comme d&#233;velopp&#233;s et 24 pays consid&#233;r&#233;s comme &#233;mergents. <a href="https://www.msci.com/documents/10199/4211cc4b-453d-4b0a-a6a7-51d36472a703">Source</a>.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Pour l&#8217;historien fran&#231;ais Fernand Braudel (1902-1985), des bourses existaient en Italie bien avant la cr&#233;ation de celle d&#8217;Amsterdam.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Je reviendrai longuement et en d&#233;tail sur ces instruments financiers relativement r&#233;cents, puisque le premier ETF a &#233;t&#233; lanc&#233; en 1990 au Canada.</p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Les actions (3)]]></title><description><![CDATA[Les diff&#233;rentes techniques de valorisation]]></description><link>https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/les-actions-3</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/les-actions-3</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Philippe Maupas]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2023 15:44:23 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nWuZ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F238468bc-8ff4-4a06-b9aa-8bdd49a6f429_1280x853.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><hr></div><p><em>Le lancement de L&#8217;Odyss&#233;e des Placements est soutenu par <a href="https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ">Indexa Capital</a>.</em></p><p><em>En souscrivant <a href="https://indexacapital.com/fr/fra/?invitation_code=jV5EWJ">via ce lien</a> &#224; Indexa Vie Spirica, le contrat d'assurance vie en gestion sous mandat le moins cher de France, vous b&#233;n&#233;ficierez d'une remise de 40% sur les frais d'assurance (qui sont de 0,67%) pendant 12 mois, dans la limite de 15.000 euros de versement et sous r&#233;serve d'un versement initial minimum de 500 euros. 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/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VDGa!, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/w_1456, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F64eb8234-df1c-41e1-8f67-d8c948b65d05_276x96.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>De nombreux <strong>professionnels </strong>sont sp&#233;cialis&#233;s dans la valorisation des soci&#233;t&#233;s. Par exemple les <strong>banquiers</strong>, les <strong>experts-comptables</strong>, les <strong>analystes financiers<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a></strong>.</p><p>Ils ont l&#8217;habitude d&#8217;analyser les &#233;tats financiers des soci&#233;t&#233;s, qui servent de base &#224; la valorisation, et emploient diff&#233;rentes approches, souvent compl&#233;mentaires.</p><p>Les voici.</p><h3>Valeur d&#8217;actif net comptable</h3><p>Parmi les pi&#232;ces comptables que doivent &#233;tablir les soci&#233;t&#233;s figure le <strong>bilan</strong>, qui est une <strong>photographie </strong>&#224; un instant t de ce que <strong>poss&#232;de </strong>une entreprise (son <strong>actif</strong>) et ce qu&#8217;elle <strong>doit </strong>(son <strong>passif</strong>).</p><p>Par construction, les deux postes sont &#233;quilibr&#233;s : l&#8217;actif est &#233;gal au passif.</p><p>Au passif figurent notamment le <strong>capital </strong>et les <strong>r&#233;serves </strong>(qui sont la fraction des b&#233;n&#233;fices pass&#233;s qui n&#8217;a pas &#233;t&#233; distribu&#233;e sous forme de dividendes), ainsi que les <strong>dettes </strong>de l&#8217;entreprise.</p><p>Les dettes doivent &#234;tre <strong>rembours&#233;es </strong>par l&#8217;entreprise, pas le capital ni les r&#233;serves.</p><p>Un calcul assez simple permet de calculer l&#8217;actif net <strong>comptable</strong>, c&#8217;est-&#224;-dire la valeur nette comptable du <strong>patrimoine </strong>de l&#8217;entreprise.</p><p>Dans la mesure o&#249; cette valeur est &#233;tablie <strong>&#224; un instant t</strong>, situ&#233; dans un pass&#233; r&#233;cent (celui de la date d&#8217;arr&#234;t&#233; de l&#8217;exercice comptable), il n&#8217;y a <strong>aucune dimension prospective</strong>.</p><p>Si la soci&#233;t&#233; signe un &#233;norme contrat tr&#232;s profitable ou d&#233;pose un brevet potentiellement tr&#232;s lucratif apr&#232;s la cl&#244;ture comptable, son impact est <strong>invisible </strong>dans les comptes de l&#8217;exercice pr&#233;c&#233;dent.</p><p>C&#8217;est pourquoi cette approche de la valorisation n&#8217;est pertinente que pour une soci&#233;t&#233; <strong>m&#251;re </strong>ayant de <strong>faibles </strong>perspectives de <strong>croissance</strong>.</p><p>Par ailleurs, la valorisation <strong>comptable </strong>des &#233;l&#233;ments de l&#8217;actif peut &#234;tre fort &#233;loign&#233;e de leur valeur <strong>r&#233;elle</strong>, d&#8217;autant plus que les <strong>actifs immat&#233;riels</strong> (qu&#8217;on appelle comptablement &#8220;<strong>actifs incorporels</strong>&#8221;) p&#232;sent de plus en plus dans le bilan des entreprises et que leur valorisation est encore plus complexe que celle des <strong>actifs corporels</strong>.</p><p>Voici comment Mazars d&#233;finit les actifs incorporels<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a> :</p><blockquote><p>L'actif incorporel est d&#233;fini comme une ressource contr&#244;l&#233;e par la soci&#233;t&#233;, intangible, non mon&#233;taire mais identifiable ind&#233;pendamment de l'entreprise. Parmi les actifs incorporels figurent les marques, les technologies, les relations de client&#232;le et le <em>goodwill</em>. Parmi les m&#233;thodes couramment utilis&#233;es dans l&#8217;&#233;valuation des actifs incorporels, on peut citer la m&#233;thode des surprofits et la m&#233;thode des redevances.</p></blockquote><p>Voici comment le m&#234;me Mazars d&#233;finit les actifs corporels<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a> :</p><blockquote><p>L'actif est dit corporel s'il s'agit d'une ressource tangible contr&#244;l&#233;e par la soci&#233;t&#233; et utilis&#233;e sur plus d'un exercice pour la production, la location ou &#224; des fins administratives. 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y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Photo de <a href="https://unsplash.com/fr/@lennykuhne?utm_content=creditCopyText&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_source=unsplash">Lenny Kuhne</a> sur <a href="https://unsplash.com/fr/photos/vehicule-gris-en-cours-de-fixation-a-linterieur-de-lusine-a-laide-de-machines-robotisees-jHZ70nRk7Ns?utm_content=creditCopyText&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_source=unsplash">Unsplash</a></figcaption></figure></div><p>La valeur d&#8217;une action est &#233;tablie en divisant la valeur de l&#8217;actif net comptable par le nombre total d&#8217;actions. </p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Abonnez-vous maintenant&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Abonnez-vous maintenant</span></a></p><h3>DCF</h3><p>Pour int&#233;grer le <strong>futur </strong>&#224; la valorisation d&#8217;une soci&#233;t&#233;, il faut faire des <strong>pr&#233;visions</strong>, qui sont par construction <strong>al&#233;atoires </strong>et peuvent diff&#233;rer grandement d&#8217;une source &#224; l&#8217;autre.</p><p>Une m&#233;thode de valorisation tr&#232;s r&#233;pandue r&#233;pond au nom de <strong>DCF</strong>, pour <strong>Discounted Cash Flow</strong>. En fran&#231;ais <strong>Flux de tr&#233;sorerie actualis&#233;s</strong>.</p><p>Tiens, on retrouve <strong>l&#8217;actualisation </strong>dont j&#8217;avais parl&#233; dans <a href="/__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/les-actions-2">le pr&#233;c&#233;dent billet</a>.</p><p>Philosophiquement, l&#8217;utilisation du DCF revient &#224; estimer que la <strong>valeur </strong>d'un actif (une soci&#233;t&#233; en est un) est &#233;gale &#224; la valeur actuelle nette <strong>des flux de tr&#233;sorerie futurs g&#233;n&#233;r&#233; par cet actif</strong>.</p><p>Le <strong>taux d&#8217;actualisation</strong> utilis&#233; est cens&#233; refl&#233;ter le <strong>niveau de risque</strong> (ou d&#8217;incertitude) de cet actif. Plus le niveau de risque est &#233;lev&#233;, plus le taux d&#8217;actualisation l&#8217;est.</p><p>Que sont ces <strong>flux de tr&#233;sorerie disponible</strong> (en anglais, &#8220;Free cash flow to the firm&#8221;) ?</p><p>Selon Mazars<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a>,</p><blockquote><p>[l]e flux de tr&#233;sorerie disponible correspond au flux net d&#8217;imp&#244;t g&#233;n&#233;r&#233; par l'actif &#233;conomique apr&#232;s couverture des besoins d'investissement et des variations de BFR<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a>. Il appartient aux investisseurs au sens large c&#8217;est-&#224;-dire aux actionnaires et aux bailleurs de fonds, contrairement au flux de tr&#233;sorerie disponible aux actionnaires. Il est utilis&#233; dans l'&#233;valuation des entreprises par la m&#233;thode d'actualisation des flux de tr&#233;sorerie disponibles et suivant une approche indirecte. Il est &#233;gal au r&#233;sultat d'exploitation (EBIT) net d'imp&#244;t major&#233; des dotations aux amortissements et provisions et minor&#233; des investissements nets et de la variation du BFR.</p></blockquote><p>Les flux de tr&#233;sorerie disponible <strong>pass&#233;s </strong>sont disponibles dans les <strong>&#233;tats comptables</strong>. L&#8217;exercice de valorisation consiste &#224; en estimer <strong>l&#8217;&#233;volution future</strong>, ann&#233;e apr&#232;s ann&#233;e.</p><p>La pr&#233;vision &#233;tant un art difficile, les analystes font g&#233;n&#233;ralement des projections de flux de tr&#233;sorerie disponible sur 4 &#224; 10 ans, puis utilisent une valeur unique pour l&#8217;entreprise, dite &#8220;<strong>terminale</strong>&#8221;.</p><p>Ces flux annuels et cette valeur terminale sont ensuite <strong>actualis&#233;s</strong>. Le taux d&#8217;actualisation utilis&#233; correspond g&#233;n&#233;ralement au <strong>co&#251;t moyen pond&#233;r&#233; du capital</strong> de la soci&#233;t&#233;, qui est une moyenne du co&#251;t des fonds propres<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-6" href="#footnote-6" target="_self">6</a> et du co&#251;t de la dette, pond&#233;r&#233;e par le poids de chacune des deux sources de financement.</p><p>Si vous souhaitez plus d&#8217;informations sur le co&#251;t moyen pond&#233;r&#233; du capital, vous pouvez commence par <a href="https://www.vernimmen.net/Vernimmen/Resumes_des_chapitres/Partie_3_La_valeur/Chapitre_31_Le_cout_du_capital.html">cette d&#233;finition</a> du site vernimmen.net.</p><p>Voici la formule pour le calcul de la valeur actuelle (VA) d&#8217;un actif en fonction de ses flux de tr&#233;sorerie disponibles (F) futurs, o&#249; t correspond aux p&#233;riodes annuelles de projection des flux (allant de 1 &#224; n), 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Toute variation dans chacune de ces valeurs conduit en outre &#224; <strong>des diff&#233;rences tr&#232;s importantes</strong> dans la valeur actuelle.</p><p>Illustration avec l&#8217;exemple simplifi&#233; d&#8217;un actif qui g&#233;n&#232;rerait les m&#234;mes flux de tr&#233;sorerie disponible pendant 5 ans (soit 100 &#8364; par an) et aurait une valeur terminale apr&#232;s 5 ans de 2.000 &#8364;. </p><p>J&#8217;ai utilis&#233; 3 taux d&#8217;actualisation : 3 %, 5 % et 7 %.</p><p>Vous constatez que la <strong>valeur actuelle</strong> est d&#8217;autant plus <strong>&#233;lev&#233;e </strong>que le <strong>taux d&#8217;actualisation</strong> est <strong>faible </strong>et que les <strong>diff&#233;rences </strong>entre les 3 valeurs terminales sont tr&#232;s <strong>significatives</strong>.</p><div id="datawrapper-iframe" class="datawrapper-wrap outer" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/7AR4P/1/&quot;,&quot;thumbnail_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/29668c44-6428-4ac4-8587-6553c601593a_1260x660.png&quot;,&quot;thumbnail_url_full&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:416,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;Actualisation &#224; 3, 5 et 7%&quot;,&quot;description&quot;:&quot;Create interactive, responsive &amp; beautiful charts &#8212; no code required.&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="DatawrapperToDOM"><iframe id="iframe-datawrapper" class="datawrapper-iframe" src="https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/7AR4P/1/" width="730" height="416" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" loading="lazy"></iframe><script type="text/javascript">!function(){"use strict";window.addEventListener("message",(function(e){if(void 0!==e.data["datawrapper-height"]){var t=document.querySelectorAll("iframe");for(var a in e.data["datawrapper-height"])for(var r=0;r<t.length;r++){if(t[r].contentWindow===e.source)t[r].style.height=e.data["datawrapper-height"][a]+"px"}}}))}();</script></div><p>Valoriser un actif n&#8217;est <strong>pas </strong>une science exacte.</p><h3>M&#233;thode des comparables</h3><p>Une autre m&#233;thode de valorisation consiste &#224; <strong>comparer </strong>une soci&#233;t&#233; avec d&#8217;autres soci&#233;t&#233;s <strong>similaires</strong>.</p><p>Que compare-t-on ?</p><p>Des <strong>ratios </strong>de valorisation.</p><p>A savoir le rapport entre la valorisation d&#8217;entreprises proches (&#8220;comparables&#8221;) de celle que l&#8217;on veut valoriser et <strong>divers agr&#233;gats comptables</strong>.</p><p>Imaginons que vous souhaitiez introduire en bourse une compagnie a&#233;rienne.</p><p>Il existe de nombreuses compagnies a&#233;riennes cot&#233;es en bourse, pour lesquelles il est ais&#233; d&#8217;&#233;tablir la moyenne de diff&#233;rents ratios de valorisation &#224; un instant t.</p><p>Par convention, certains de ces ratios sont exprim&#233;s par action. Voici les principaux :</p><ul><li><p>Cours/b&#233;n&#233;fice net</p></li><li><p>Cours/b&#233;n&#233;fice d&#8217;exploitation</p></li><li><p>Cours/chiffre d&#8217;affaires<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-7" href="#footnote-7" target="_self">7</a></p></li><li><p>Cours/actif net</p></li><li><p>Cours/flux de tr&#233;sorerie disponible</p></li></ul><p>En calculant la moyenne de diff&#233;rents ratios de valorisation de compagnies a&#233;riennes cot&#233;es, on peut <strong>positionner </strong>la compagnie a&#233;rienne que l&#8217;on veut introduire en bourse <strong>relativement &#224; son univers de concurrence</strong> : plus ou moins ch&#232;re en fonction de ses perspectives de croissance et de la capacit&#233; des &#233;quipes en charge de l&#8217;introduction de raconter une histoire <strong>convaincante </strong>et <strong>s&#233;duisante </strong>aux investisseurs.</p><h3>M&#233;thode des transactions comparables</h3><p>Autre m&#233;thode de valorisation, celle consistant &#224; s&#8217;appuyer sur des <strong>acquisitions r&#233;centes</strong> dans le m&#234;me secteur, en consid&#233;rant que les multiples de valorisation de ces op&#233;rations sont pertinents pour aider &#224; valoriser une soci&#233;t&#233; non cot&#233;e.</p><p>Pour cela, il faut qu&#8217;il y ait eu des transactions <strong>r&#233;centes </strong>et <strong>pertinentes </strong>et que les <strong>donn&#233;es de valorisation</strong> soient <strong>disponibles </strong>(ce qui est le cas des transactions faites en bourse, mais pas n&#233;cessairement des op&#233;rations impliquant des soci&#233;t&#233;s priv&#233;es).</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Abonnez-vous maintenant&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Abonnez-vous maintenant</span></a></p><p>On le voit, il y a plusieurs approches possibles pour valoriser une entreprise.</p><p>Les grands interm&#233;diaires sp&#233;cialis&#233;s que sont les banques d&#8217;investissement les utilisent en parall&#232;le pour &#233;tablir une valorisation, laquelle n&#8217;est pas une science exacte et peut faire l&#8217;objet de <strong>grandes divergences</strong> entre &#233;valuateurs.</p><p>Dans un prochain billet, j&#8217;expliquerai ce que sont les <strong>bourses </strong>&#8212; le lieu o&#249; s&#8217;&#233;changent les actions des soci&#233;t&#233;s cot&#233;es &#8212; et comment on <strong>ach&#232;te </strong>et <strong>vend </strong>ces actions.</p><div><hr></div><p><em>N&#8217;h&#233;sitez pas &#224; visiter le site d&#8217;Indexa Capital pour d&#233;couvrir le contrat Indexa Vie Spirica. J&#8217;y ai souscrit moi-m&#234;me.</em></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:&quot;button-wrapper&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary button-wrapper" href="https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ"><span>D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica</span></a></p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Ou encore votre beau-fr&#232;re ou un coll&#232;gue de travail boursicoteur, qui sont a priori des sources moyennement fiables, car non professionnelles. Ce qui n&#8217;implique pas &#8212; h&#233;las &#8212; que les professionnels soient des sources toujours fiables.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.mazars.fr/Accueil/Services/Financial-Advisory/Glossaire-Definition/A/Actif-incorporel">Source</a>. Mazars est une soci&#233;t&#233; sp&#233;cialis&#233;e dans l&#8217;audit, la fiscalit&#233; et le conseil ainsi que dans les services comptables et juridiques.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.mazars.fr/Accueil/Services/Financial-Advisory/Glossaire-Definition/A/Actif-corporel">Source</a>.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.mazars.fr/Accueil/Services/Financial-Advisory/Glossaire-Definition/F/Flux-de-tresorerie-disponible-FCFF">Source</a>.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-5" href="#footnote-anchor-5" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">5</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>BFR = besoin en fonds de roulement. &#8220;Le besoin en fonds de roulement (BFR) est un agr&#233;gat de l'analyse financi&#232;re refl&#233;tant le volume des capitaux mobilis&#233;s, n&#233;cessaires &#224; l'exploitation d'une activit&#233;. Comptablement, il correspond au solde des comptes des actifs et des passifs circulants.&#8221; (<a href="https://www.mazars.fr/Accueil/Services/Financial-Advisory/Glossaire-Definition/B/Besoin-en-fonds-de-roulement-BFR">Source</a>.)</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-6" href="#footnote-anchor-6" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">6</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Les fonds propres se composent du capital social, des r&#233;serves, du report &#224; nouveau et du r&#233;sultat net de l&#8217;exercice.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-7" href="#footnote-anchor-7" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">7</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Le b&#233;n&#233;fice n&#8217;est pas toujours positif, alors que le chiffre d&#8217;affaires l&#8217;est toujours.</p><p></p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Les actions (2)]]></title><description><![CDATA[Comprendre la valeur temps de l'argent pour valoriser un actif]]></description><link>https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/les-actions-2</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/les-actions-2</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Philippe Maupas]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2023 13:15:27 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TSdg!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F90e9a22c-e642-46ea-af43-098e8f70901a_1280x870.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><hr></div><p><em>Le lancement de L&#8217;Odyss&#233;e des Placements est soutenu par <a href="https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ">Indexa Capital</a>.</em></p><p><em>En souscrivant <a href="https://indexacapital.com/fr/fra/?invitation_code=jV5EWJ">via ce lien</a> &#224; Indexa Vie Spirica, le contrat d'assurance vie en gestion sous mandat le moins cher de France, vous b&#233;n&#233;ficierez d'une remise de 40% sur les frais d'assurance (qui sont de 0,67%) pendant 12 mois, dans la limite de 15.000 euros de versement et sous r&#233;serve d'un versement initial minimum de 500 euros.</em></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:&quot;button-wrapper&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary button-wrapper" href="https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ"><span>D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica</span></a></p><div><hr></div><p>Dans le <a href="/__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/les-actions-1">pr&#233;c&#233;dent billet</a>, je me suis demand&#233; pourquoi investir en actions. Mais au fait, comment s&#8217;&#233;tablit la <strong>valeur</strong> des actions ?</p><p>Je rappelle que l&#8217;immense majorit&#233; des soci&#233;t&#233;s ne sont pas cot&#233;es en bourse : elles sont <strong>priv&#233;es</strong>. </p><p>Un des indices boursiers les plus exhaustifs, le MSCI ACWI Investable Market Index, comportait &#224; fin novembre 2023 <strong>9.182 soci&#233;t&#233;s</strong> cot&#233;es en bourse (&#8220;<strong>publiques</strong>&#8221;) de 23 pays consid&#233;r&#233;s comme d&#233;velopp&#233;s et 24 pays consid&#233;r&#233;s comme &#233;mergents<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a>.</p><p>Alors qu&#8217;il existe vraisembablement des dizaines de millions de soci&#233;t&#233;s priv&#233;es.</p><p>Les actions cot&#233;es s&#8217;&#233;changent sur un <strong>march&#233; boursier</strong> et leur cours est fix&#233; par la confrontation de <strong>l&#8217;offre </strong>et de la <strong>demande</strong>.</p><p>Cette offre et cette demande sont influenc&#233;es en partie par les <strong>calculs de valorisation</strong> faits par de multiples intervenants, majoritairement des professionnels.</p><p>Ces derniers utilisent des techniques de valorisation &#8212; qui s&#8217;appliquent &#233;galement aux soci&#233;t&#233;s non cot&#233;es &#8212; que je vais essayer de pr&#233;senter de fa&#231;on intelligible dans ce billet et surtout dans les suivants.</p><h3>Le capital initial</h3><p>Mais au fait, comment fixe-t-on la valeur des actions &#224; la <strong>cr&#233;ation </strong>d&#8217;une entreprise ? Quand, par d&#233;finition, il n&#8217;existe aucun historique d&#8217;&#233;tats comptables ?</p><p>La premi&#232;re d&#233;cision &#224; prendre est celle du montant du capital n&#233;cessaire pour cr&#233;er l&#8217;entreprise et <strong>financer son exploitation</strong>, sachant que les premiers revenus mettront plus de temps &#224; se mat&#233;rialiser que les premi&#232;res d&#233;penses.</p><p>En fonction de la forme juridique de la soci&#233;t&#233; et de la juridiction, il existe des <strong>montants minimums r&#233;glementaires</strong> de capital.</p><p>En France, pour cr&#233;er une soci&#233;t&#233; anonyme (SA), le montant minimum du capital est de 37.000 euros<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a>.</p><p>Pour certains types d&#8217;activit&#233;, un capital <strong>sup&#233;rieur </strong>au montant r&#233;glementaire est indispensable.</p><p>Croisez tous ces param&#232;tres et vous arr&#234;tez le montant initial du capital social, qui est pr&#233;cis&#233; dans les <strong>statuts </strong>de la soci&#233;t&#233;.</p><p>Imaginons qu&#8217;il s&#8217;agisse de 100.000 euros, comme dans le cas de la soci&#233;t&#233; Odyss&#233;e que j&#8217;avais cr&#233;&#233;e dans <a href="/__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/une-societe-cest-quoi-1">ce billet</a>.</p><p>Les actionnaires fondateurs d&#233;cident de r&#233;partir ce capital social en 1.000 actions de 100 euros (1000 actions x 100 euros = 100.000 euros).</p><p>Ils auraient pu &#233;galement choisir de cr&#233;er 10.000 actions de 10 euros. Ou 100.000 actions de 1 euro.</p><h3>Valoriser une soci&#233;t&#233;</h3><p>Une fois que la soci&#233;t&#233; a &#233;t&#233; cr&#233;&#233;e, elle peut d&#233;marrer ses activit&#233;s et doit d&#233;poser ses <strong>comptes annuels</strong> (j&#8217;ai parl&#233; des diff&#233;rents &#233;tats comptables <a href="/__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/une-societe-cest-quoi-2">ici</a>).</p><p>Des actionnaires existants peuvent avoir envie de vendre tout ou partie de leurs actions, ou bien la soci&#233;t&#233; peut d&#233;cider d&#8217;augmenter son capital, par exemple pour financer son d&#233;veloppement.</p><p>Dans ce cas, il faut &#233;tablir une <strong>valorisation </strong>de la soci&#233;t&#233;, car il est peu vraisemblable qu&#8217;elle vaille la m&#234;me chose que son capital initial : elle a depuis sa cr&#233;ation <strong>produit des biens ou des services</strong>, fait construire des <strong>usines</strong>, d&#233;pos&#233; des <strong>brevets</strong>, sign&#233; des <strong>contrats</strong>.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TSdg!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F90e9a22c-e642-46ea-af43-098e8f70901a_1280x870.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TSdg!, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/w_424, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F90e9a22c-e642-46ea-af43-098e8f70901a_1280x870.jpeg 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TSdg!, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/w_848, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/c_limit, 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/__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F90e9a22c-e642-46ea-af43-098e8f70901a_1280x870.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TSdg!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F90e9a22c-e642-46ea-af43-098e8f70901a_1280x870.jpeg" width="1280" height="870" 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/__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F90e9a22c-e642-46ea-af43-098e8f70901a_1280x870.jpeg 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TSdg!, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/w_848, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F90e9a22c-e642-46ea-af43-098e8f70901a_1280x870.jpeg 848w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TSdg!, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/w_1272, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F90e9a22c-e642-46ea-af43-098e8f70901a_1280x870.jpeg 1272w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TSdg!, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/w_1456, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F90e9a22c-e642-46ea-af43-098e8f70901a_1280x870.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Image par <a href="https://pixabay.com/fr/users/blickpixel-52945/?utm_source=link-attribution&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_campaign=image&amp;utm_content=453758">Michael Schwarzenberger</a> de <a href="https://pixabay.com/fr//?utm_source=link-attribution&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_campaign=image&amp;utm_content=453758">Pixabay</a></figcaption></figure></div><p>En d&#8217;autres termes, sa valeur a probablement augment&#233;.</p><p>Avant d&#8217;aborder les diff&#233;rentes m&#233;thodes de valorisation d&#8217;une soci&#233;t&#233;, il convient de faire un court, d&#233;plaisant et n&#233;cessaire d&#233;tour par un concept cl&#233;, celui de la <strong>valeur temps de l&#8217;argent</strong>, et de s&#8217;infliger une toute petite dose de math&#233;matiques.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Abonnez-vous maintenant&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Abonnez-vous maintenant</span></a></p><h3>La valeur temps de l&#8217;argent</h3><p>Vous avez le choix entre percevoir 1000 euros <strong>aujourd&#8217;hui </strong>ou 1000 euros <strong>dans un an</strong>. Que choisissez-vous ?</p><p>Probablement de recevoir 1000 euros <strong>aujourd&#8217;hui</strong>, pour pouvoir utiliser cette somme <strong>imm&#233;diatement </strong>&#224; des fins de consommation ou d&#8217;&#233;pargne. Vous n&#8217;avez <strong>aucun int&#233;r&#234;t</strong> &#224; attendre un an.</p><p>Vous avez le choix de recevoir <strong>1000 euros</strong> aujourd&#8217;hui ou <strong>1100 euros</strong> dans un an, que choisissez-vous ?</p><p>Sauf &#224; ce que vous ayez un besoin <strong>vital </strong>de cette somme imm&#233;diatement, &#231;a d&#233;pend de la <strong>valeur </strong>que vous assignez au <strong>temps</strong>.</p><p>En g&#233;n&#233;ral, on consid&#232;re que pour un investisseur une somme d'argent re&#231;ue &#224; un instant t vaut davantage qu'une m&#234;me somme re&#231;ue plus tard, d&#232;s lors qu&#8217;il peut <strong>placer </strong>cette somme et la faire <strong>fructifier</strong>.</p><p>Pour avoir 1.100 euros dans un an en pla&#231;ant 1.000 euros aujourd&#8217;hui, il faut une r&#233;mun&#233;ration annuelle de 10%<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a>.</p><p>A l&#8217;inverse, la valeur aujourd&#8217;hui (&#8220;<strong>valeur actuelle</strong>&#8221; ou VA) d&#8217;une somme de 1100 euros dans un an (&#8220;<strong>valeur future</strong>&#8221; ou VF) est de 1000 euros.</p><p>Puisque 1000 x (1+10%) = 1100, on a aussi 1100/(1+10%) = 1000</p><p>Ce qui peut se repr&#233;senter math&#233;matiquement par l&#8217;&#233;quation suivante : </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Gt9x!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F752ed663-1577-49cc-a0f9-cfdc4fee0fbb_258x93.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Gt9x!, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/w_424, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/f_webp, 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/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Gt9x!, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/w_1456, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F752ed663-1577-49cc-a0f9-cfdc4fee0fbb_258x93.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>O&#249; r est le taux d&#8217;int&#233;r&#234;t annuel.</p><p>Sur des p&#233;riodes sup&#233;rieures &#224; un an, l&#8217;&#233;quation devient</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VDGa!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F64eb8234-df1c-41e1-8f67-d8c948b65d05_276x96.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div 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/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VDGa!, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/w_1456, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F64eb8234-df1c-41e1-8f67-d8c948b65d05_276x96.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>O&#249; n est le nombre d&#8217;ann&#233;es.</p><p>Si le taux d&#8217;int&#233;r&#234;t annuel est de <strong>10%</strong>, la valeur actuelle d&#8217;une somme de 1000 euros re&#231;ue dans<strong> 3 ans</strong> est de :</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NTXn!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F23f85f74-f664-420b-8854-e1e7de6f423f_213x102.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NTXn!, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/w_424, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F23f85f74-f664-420b-8854-e1e7de6f423f_213x102.png 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NTXn!, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/w_848, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F23f85f74-f664-420b-8854-e1e7de6f423f_213x102.png 848w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NTXn!, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/w_1272, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F23f85f74-f664-420b-8854-e1e7de6f423f_213x102.png 1272w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NTXn!, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/w_1456, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F23f85f74-f664-420b-8854-e1e7de6f423f_213x102.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NTXn!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F23f85f74-f664-420b-8854-e1e7de6f423f_213x102.png" width="213" height="102" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/23f85f74-f664-420b-8854-e1e7de6f423f_213x102.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:102,&quot;width&quot;:213,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:5360,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NTXn!, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/w_424, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F23f85f74-f664-420b-8854-e1e7de6f423f_213x102.png 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NTXn!, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/w_848, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F23f85f74-f664-420b-8854-e1e7de6f423f_213x102.png 848w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NTXn!, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/w_1272, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F23f85f74-f664-420b-8854-e1e7de6f423f_213x102.png 1272w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NTXn!, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/w_1456, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F23f85f74-f664-420b-8854-e1e7de6f423f_213x102.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Soit 1000 / 1,331 = <strong>751,31 euros</strong></p><p>Et si le taux d&#8217;int&#233;r&#234;t annuel est de <strong>3%</strong>, la valeur actuelle de la m&#234;me somme de 1000 euros re&#231;ue dans 3 ans est de :</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TtJv!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3d575d64-6b36-4bb9-ae29-28a1ed957fdb_192x102.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TtJv!, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/w_424, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3d575d64-6b36-4bb9-ae29-28a1ed957fdb_192x102.png 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TtJv!, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/w_848, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3d575d64-6b36-4bb9-ae29-28a1ed957fdb_192x102.png 848w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TtJv!, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/w_1272, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3d575d64-6b36-4bb9-ae29-28a1ed957fdb_192x102.png 1272w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TtJv!, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/w_1456, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3d575d64-6b36-4bb9-ae29-28a1ed957fdb_192x102.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TtJv!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3d575d64-6b36-4bb9-ae29-28a1ed957fdb_192x102.png" width="192" height="102" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/3d575d64-6b36-4bb9-ae29-28a1ed957fdb_192x102.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:102,&quot;width&quot;:192,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:5059,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TtJv!, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/w_424, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3d575d64-6b36-4bb9-ae29-28a1ed957fdb_192x102.png 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TtJv!, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/w_848, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3d575d64-6b36-4bb9-ae29-28a1ed957fdb_192x102.png 848w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TtJv!, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/w_1272, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3d575d64-6b36-4bb9-ae29-28a1ed957fdb_192x102.png 1272w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TtJv!, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/w_1456, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3d575d64-6b36-4bb9-ae29-28a1ed957fdb_192x102.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Soit 1000 / 1,093 = <strong>915,14 euros</strong></p><p>Le taux d&#8217;int&#233;r&#234;t utilis&#233; pour calculer la valeur actuelle d&#8217;une somme per&#231;ue dans le futur (&#8220;<strong>actualiser</strong>&#8221;) s&#8217;appelle le <strong>taux d&#8217;actualisation</strong>.</p><p>L&#8217;op&#233;ration inverse (calculer la valeur future de la valeur actuelle) s&#8217;appelle la <strong>capitalisation</strong>, et le taux d&#8217;int&#233;r&#234;t le <strong>taux de capitalisation</strong>. </p><p>Quand on actualise, d&#232;s lors que le taux d&#8217;actualisation utilis&#233; est positif, plus il est <strong>&#233;lev&#233;</strong>, plus la valeur actuelle est <strong>faible</strong>. Plus ce taux est <strong>faible</strong>, plus la valeur actuelle est <strong>&#233;lev&#233;e</strong>.</p><p>Cette relation d&#233;coule de la formule de calcul, o&#249; l&#8217;impact du taux d&#8217;int&#233;r&#234;t se fait sentir au d&#233;nominateur.</p><p>Le rapport avec la valorisation d&#8217;une soci&#233;t&#233; ?</p><p>Une des m&#233;thodes utilis&#233;es, dont je parlerai dans le prochain billet, consiste &#224; consid&#233;rer que <strong>la valeur actuelle d&#8217;une soci&#233;t&#233; est &#233;gale &#224; celle de ses flux financiers futurs</strong>.</p><p>Ces flux peuvent &#234;tre les <strong>dividendes </strong>ou bien les <strong>flux de tr&#233;sorerie</strong> g&#233;n&#233;r&#233;s par la soci&#233;t&#233;, qu&#8217;il faut <strong>estimer </strong>et <strong>actualiser</strong>.</p><p>C&#8217;en est fini avec les math&#233;matiques, je pr&#233;senterai dans le prochain billet diff&#233;rentes m&#233;thodes pour valoriser un actif comme une soci&#233;t&#233;.</p><p><em>N&#8217;h&#233;sitez pas &#224; visiter le site d&#8217;Indexa Capital pour d&#233;couvrir le contrat Indexa Vie Spirica. J&#8217;y ai souscrit moi-m&#234;me.</em></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:&quot;button-wrapper&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary button-wrapper" href="https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ"><span>D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica</span></a></p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.msci.com/documents/10199/4211cc4b-453d-4b0a-a6a7-51d36472a703">Source</a>.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a 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Photo : Carlos Delgado.</figcaption></figure></div><p>Une action, c&#8217;est une titre financier permettant &#224; son d&#233;tenteur d&#8217;&#234;tre <strong>propri&#233;taire </strong>d&#8217;une soci&#233;t&#233;, &#224; proportion du nombre d&#8217;actions d&#233;tenu dans le total.</p><p>Dans un <a href="/__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/une-societe-cest-quoi-1">pr&#233;c&#233;dent billet</a>, j&#8217;ai cr&#233;&#233; la soci&#233;t&#233; Odyss&#233;e. Voici la r&#233;partition de son capital apr&#232;s une augmentation de capital r&#233;alis&#233;e pour financer le retour &#224; Ithaque.</p><p>Ulysse poss&#232;de 600 actions d&#8217;Odyss&#233;e sur un total de 1500 : il d&#233;tient donc 40% (600 / 1500) du capital de la soci&#233;t&#233;.</p><div id="datawrapper-iframe" class="datawrapper-wrap outer" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/znvOJ/2/&quot;,&quot;thumbnail_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/a66989b1-d0dc-436e-b765-fad0fd6277d3_1260x660.png&quot;,&quot;thumbnail_url_full&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:437,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;R&#233;partition du capital de la soci&#233;t&#233; Odyss&#233;e apr&#232;s l'augmentation de capital&quot;,&quot;description&quot;:&quot;Create interactive, responsive &amp; beautiful charts &#8212; no code required.&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="DatawrapperToDOM"><iframe id="iframe-datawrapper" class="datawrapper-iframe" src="https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/znvOJ/2/" width="730" height="437" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" loading="lazy"></iframe><script type="text/javascript">!function(){"use strict";window.addEventListener("message",(function(e){if(void 0!==e.data["datawrapper-height"]){var t=document.querySelectorAll("iframe");for(var a in e.data["datawrapper-height"])for(var r=0;r<t.length;r++){if(t[r].contentWindow===e.source)t[r].style.height=e.data["datawrapper-height"][a]+"px"}}}))}();</script></div><p></p><h3>Pourquoi investit-on en actions ?</h3><p>Parce que les actions permettent &#224; l&#8217;actionnaire de profiter du succ&#232;s d&#8217;une entreprise de deux fa&#231;ons :</p><ul><li><p>En procurant un <strong>revenu p&#233;riodique</strong>, sous forme de <strong>dividende</strong>.</p></li><li><p>En procurant une <strong>plus-value </strong>en capital, quand la <strong>valeur </strong>de l&#8217;action est <strong>sup&#233;rieure </strong>&#224; son <strong>co&#251;t d&#8217;acquisition</strong>.</p></li></ul><p>Cette plus-value est qualifi&#233;e de <strong>latente </strong>tant que<strong> </strong>l&#8217;actionnaire n&#8217;a pas vendu ses actions.</p><p>Quand les actions ont &#233;t&#233; vendues, la plus-value est <strong>r&#233;alis&#233;e</strong>. Dans ce cas, l&#8217;actionnaire n&#8217;a plus droit aux dividendes sur les actions qu&#8217;il a vendues.</p><p>Quand le cours (ou le prix de vente) est inf&#233;rieur au cours d&#8217;achat, on parle de <strong>moins-value</strong> latente (ou r&#233;alis&#233;e).</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Abonnez-vous maintenant&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Abonnez-vous maintenant</span></a></p><h3>Le dividende</h3><p>C&#8217;est la part des profits r&#233;alis&#233;s dans le pass&#233; que la soci&#233;t&#233; choisit de distribuer &#8212; g&#233;n&#233;ralement en cash &#8212; aux actionnaires.</p><p>C&#8217;est le conseil d&#8217;administration qui propose &#224; l&#8217;assembl&#233;e g&#233;n&#233;rale des actionnaires le montant unitaire du dividende par action.</p><p>A quelques exceptions pr&#232;s, les soci&#233;t&#233;s n&#8217;ont <strong>pas d&#8217;obligation de distribuer des dividendes</strong> &#224; leurs actionnaires. Certaines soci&#233;t&#233;s choisissent de ne pas en distribuer pour <strong>r&#233;investir</strong>, d&#8217;autres choisissent de ne distribuer qu&#8217;une partie du b&#233;n&#233;fice.</p><p>Dans certains cas, la soci&#233;t&#233; peut distribuer <strong>plus </strong>que son b&#233;n&#233;fice de l&#8217;ann&#233;e pr&#233;c&#233;dente en puisant dans ses <strong>r&#233;serves </strong>et/on en <strong>s&#8217;endettant </strong>pour financer le paiement des dividendes.</p><p>En distribuant un dividende &#224; ses actionnaires, la soci&#233;t&#233; <strong>s&#8217;appauvrit </strong>du montant de ce dividende et les actionnaires <strong>s&#8217;enrichissent </strong>du m&#234;me montant. </p><p>C&#8217;est un simple <strong>transfert </strong>d&#8217;argent, similaire &#224; un retrait d&#8217;argent &#224; un distributeur bancaire.</p><p>Le cours d&#8217;une soci&#233;t&#233; <strong>cot&#233;e </strong>baisse en th&#233;orie<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a> du montant du dividende le jour du d&#233;tachement de celui-ci, pour refl&#233;ter la baisse de valeur de la soci&#233;t&#233; due au paiement du dividende.</p><p>Chaque actionnaire est libre de faire ce qu&#8217;il veut du dividende : le <strong>d&#233;penser</strong>, <strong>l&#8217;&#233;pargner</strong>, le <strong>r&#233;investir </strong>dans les actions de la soci&#233;t&#233; ou dans d&#8217;autres actions.</p><h3>Le pouvoir du r&#233;investissement des dividendes</h3><p>Sur tr&#232;s longue dur&#233;e<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a>, les actions (cot&#233;es) ont jusqu&#8217;&#224; aujourd&#8217;hui d&#233;livr&#233; des performances <strong>sup&#233;rieures &#224; l&#8217;inflation</strong> et sup&#233;rieures &#224; celles des obligations (qui sont des titres financiers dont je parlerai ult&#233;rieurement).</p><p>Nous venons de voir que l&#8217;investisseur pouvait d&#233;penser son dividende ou le r&#233;investir.</p><p>Pour qui n&#8217;a <strong>pas </strong>besoin du <strong>revenu </strong>que constituent les dividendes pour vivre, il est tr&#232;s vivement conseill&#233; des les r&#233;investir <strong>imm&#233;diatement</strong>.</p><p>En effet, dans la mesure o&#249; la valeur des actions augmente sur le long terme, la performance obtenue par un investissement dans un panier d&#8217;actions<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a> en r&#233;investissant les dividendes est tr&#232;s <strong>sup&#233;rieure </strong>&#224; celle du m&#234;me panier d&#8217;indices si les dividendes ne sont pas r&#233;investis.</p><p>Pourquoi ?</p><p>Avec les dividendes de l&#8217;ann&#233;e, vous achetez de <strong>nouvelles </strong>actions. Comme vous avez <strong>plus </strong>d&#8217;actions, la valorisation de votre portefeuille est sup&#233;rieure &#224; ce qu&#8217;elle aurait &#233;t&#233; si vous n&#8217;aviez pas r&#233;investi les dividendes (car vous auriez alors <strong>moins </strong>d&#8217;actions).</p><p>C&#8217;est la magie<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a> de ce qu&#8217;on appelle les <strong>int&#233;r&#234;ts compos&#233;s</strong>.</p><p>Illustration avec la performance d&#8217;un indice compos&#233; d&#8217;actions europ&#233;ennes de grandes et moyennes capitalisations, l&#8217;indice <strong>MSCI Europe</strong>.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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class="image-caption">Souorce : JPMorgan Asset Management, Guide des March&#233;s, Europe, T4 2023, 30 septembre 2023</figcaption></figure></div><p>Si vous aviez investi <strong>5.000 euros</strong> d&#233;but 1986 dans cet indice et aviez <strong>r&#233;investi les dividendes</strong> chaque ann&#233;e dans des nouvelles actions des soci&#233;t&#233;s ayant vers&#233; ces dividendes, votre portefeuille vaudrait <strong>99.000 euros</strong> au 30 septembre 2023.</p><p><strong>Sans r&#233;investissement des dividendes</strong>, votre portefeuille vaudrait <strong>32.000 euros</strong>. Trois fois moins pour la m&#234;me mise de d&#233;part.</p><p>Attention, ce graphique cr&#233;&#233; par la soci&#233;t&#233; de gestion <strong>JPMorgan Asset Management</strong> est fourni &#224; titre <strong>d&#8217;illustration </strong>: il n&#8217;est en effet <strong>pas possible</strong> d&#8217;investir <strong>directement </strong>dans un indice.</p><p>Pour s&#8217;y exposer, il faut investir dans un fonds qui en r&#233;plique le comportement, et ce fonds applique des <strong>frais </strong>qui <strong>r&#233;duisent la performance</strong>.</p><p>Mais la hi&#233;rarchie reste la m&#234;me : <strong>par construction</strong>, r&#233;investir les dividendes, &#231;a fait toujours <strong>mieux </strong>que ne pas les r&#233;investir. Plus le temps passe, plus l&#8217;&#233;cart cro&#238;t.</p><p>Nous verrons dans un prochain billet comment acheter les actions en bourse. Dans ce cas, il peut &#234;tre <strong>tr&#232;s fastidieux</strong> de r&#233;investir soi-m&#234;me les dividendes, ne serait-ce que parce que le montant per&#231;u peut-&#234;tre inf&#233;rieur au cours d&#8217;une action et que des <strong>frais </strong>s&#8217;appliquent.</p><p>Heureusement, nous verrons aussi qu&#8217;il est possible d&#8217;investir en actions en achetant des fonds, g&#233;r&#233;s par des <strong>professionnels </strong>beaucoup mieux outill&#233;s que les particuliers pour r&#233;investir les dividendes. Vous paierez pour cela des <strong>frais</strong>, mais le jeu en vaut la chandelle.</p><p>Nous verrons aussi que ces fonds existent souvent dans deux versions : l&#8217;une <strong>distribue </strong>les dividendes, l&#8217;autre les <strong>r&#233;investit</strong>.</p><p>Vous avez compris que si vous n&#8217;avez pas besoin de percevoir de dividendes, il est infiniment pr&#233;f&#233;rable pour votre moi futur d&#8217;opter pour la version des fonds qui <strong>r&#233;investit </strong>les dividendes.</p><p>Faites-le, votre moi futur vous en remerciera.</p><p>Dans le prochain billet, nous verrons comment acheter les actions et quelles sont les techniques pour les valoriser.</p><p><em>N&#8217;h&#233;sitez pas &#224; visiter le site d&#8217;Indexa Capital pour d&#233;couvrir le contrat Indexa Vie Spirica. J&#8217;y ai souscrit moi-m&#234;me.</em></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:&quot;button-wrapper&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary button-wrapper" href="https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ"><span>D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica</span></a></p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>D&#8217;autres effets jouant, le cours de cl&#244;ture de l&#8217;action le jour du d&#233;tachement peut ne pas &#234;tre &#233;gal au cours de cl&#244;ture de la veille moins le montant du dividende.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Des p&#233;riodes glissantes de 20 ans et plus.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Ce panier peut prendre la forme d&#8217;un indice, sujet sur lequel je reviendrai en d&#233;tail.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Qui n&#8217;a en r&#233;alit&#233; rien de <em>magique</em>, et tout <em>d&#8217;arithm&#233;tique</em>.</p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Une société, c'est quoi (2) ?]]></title><description><![CDATA[Les actionnaires, leurs droits, la gouvernance]]></description><link>https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/une-societe-cest-quoi-2</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/une-societe-cest-quoi-2</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Philippe Maupas]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2023 16:44:29 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Y0a7!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F17f4a9b2-a2db-4da6-8d85-6a12f97aa083_1024x683.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><hr></div><p><em>Le lancement de L&#8217;Odyss&#233;e des Placements est soutenu par <a href="https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ">Indexa Capital</a>.</em></p><p><em>En souscrivant <a href="https://indexacapital.com/fr/fra/?invitation_code=jV5EWJ">via ce lien</a> &#224; Indexa Vie Spirica, le contrat d'assurance vie en gestion sous mandat le moins cher de France, vous b&#233;n&#233;ficierez d'une remise de 40% sur les frais d'assurance (qui sont de 0,67%) pendant 12 mois, dans la limite de 15.000 euros de versement et sous r&#233;serve d'un versement initial minimum de 500 euros.</em></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:&quot;button-wrapper&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary button-wrapper" href="https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ"><span>D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica</span></a></p><div><hr></div><p>J&#8217;ai cr&#233;&#233; dans le pr&#233;c&#233;dent billet la soci&#233;t&#233; Odyss&#233;e. Je vais m&#8217;int&#233;resser ici &#224; la <strong>gouvernance<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a> </strong>d&#8217;entreprise. A savoir &#224; l&#8217;ensemble des r&#232;gles qui r&#233;gissent la fa&#231;on dont les entreprises sont <strong>contr&#244;l&#233;es </strong>et <strong>dirig&#233;es</strong>.</p><h3>Conseil d&#8217;administration</h3><p>Les actionnaires (personnes physiques ou morales) sont repr&#233;sent&#233;s par le <strong>conseil d&#8217;administration </strong>(ou une structure &#233;quivalente), compos&#233; d&#8217;administrateurs nomm&#233;s par l&#8217;assembl&#233;e des actionnaires. En France, les administrateurs sont entre 3 et 18, dont un <strong>pr&#233;sident</strong>.</p><p>Dans de nombreuses juridictions, on demande la pr&#233;sence d&#8217;administrateurs <strong>ind&#233;pendants </strong>dans certaines entreprises : un administrateur peut &#234;tre qualifi&#233; d&#8217;ind&#233;pendant<strong> </strong>lorsqu&#8217;il n&#8217;entretient aucune relation de quelque nature que ce soit avec la soci&#233;t&#233;, son groupe ou sa direction, qui puisse <strong>compromettre l&#8217;exercice de sa libert&#233; de jugement</strong>.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Y0a7!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F17f4a9b2-a2db-4da6-8d85-6a12f97aa083_1024x683.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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Photo : Frank Schulenburg.</figcaption></figure></div><p>Le conseil d&#8217;administration (CA) <strong>nomme </strong>et peut <strong>r&#233;voquer </strong>le directeur g&#233;n&#233;ral de la soci&#233;t&#233;, qui est <strong>en charge de la gestion au jour le jour de la soci&#233;t&#233;</strong> et qui applique la <strong>strat&#233;gie </strong>d&#233;finie par le CA, sous le contr&#244;le de ce dernier.</p><h3>Assembl&#233;e g&#233;n&#233;rale des actionnaires</h3><p>Elle a lieu une fois par an &#224; titre ordinaire. Durant cette r&#233;union<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a>,les actionnaires <strong>approuvent les comptes</strong> de l&#8217;exercice pr&#233;c&#233;dent. Ils votent &#233;galement sur une ou plusieurs <strong>r&#233;solutions </strong>(dividendes, op&#233;rations sur le capital notamment).</p><p>Certaines de ces r&#233;solutions ont un caract&#232;re <strong>contraignant </strong>pour l&#8217;entreprise, qui <strong>doit </strong>les appliquer, d&#8217;autres non.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6PIN!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F93cc818e-d575-4947-9994-d87d995226b3_534x288.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6PIN!, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/w_424, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/q_auto:good, 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vote</strong>, il existe de multiples exceptions &#224; cette r&#232;gle. Certaines actions sont <strong>sans droit de vote</strong>, d&#8217;autres ont des <strong>droits de vote multiples</strong><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a>, d&#8217;autres encore ont des droits de vote qui croissent avec la dur&#233;e de d&#233;tention.</p><h3>Droits des actionnaires</h3><p>Les actionnaires d&#8217;une entreprise en sont <strong>propri&#233;taires </strong>au prorata du nombre d&#8217;actions d&#233;tenues. Ils per&#231;oivent leur part des <strong>dividendes </strong>&#233;ventuellement vers&#233;s par l&#8217;entreprise.</p><p>En cas de faillite de l&#8217;entreprise, ils ne sont <strong>pas prioritaires</strong>. Ils peuvent percevoir une partie des actifs liquid&#233;s, une fois tous les <strong>cr&#233;diteurs </strong>pay&#233;s.</p><p>Les actionnaires ne sont pas responsables des <strong>dettes </strong>de l&#8217;entreprise.</p><p>Lors des assembl&#233;es g&#233;n&#233;rales, le cas le plus fr&#233;quent est : une action, un vote, sauf exceptions mentionn&#233;es ci-dessus.</p><h3>Cot&#233; vs non-cot&#233;</h3><p>Comme nous l&#8217;avons vu dans <a href="/__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/une-societe-cest-quoi-1">le pr&#233;c&#233;dent billet</a>, la plupart des soci&#233;t&#233;s sont <strong>non cot&#233;es</strong>.</p><p>Certaines soci&#233;t&#233;s sont cot&#233;es en bourse, o&#249; des acheteurs et des vendeurs peuvent s&#8217;&#233;changer leurs actions. Le cours est alors fix&#233; par la confrontation entre <strong>l&#8217;offre </strong>et la <strong>demande</strong>.</p><p>La valorisation d&#8217;une action s&#8217;appr&#233;cie selon diff&#233;rentes techniques sur lesquelles je reviendrai dans un prochain billet.</p><h3>Etats comptables</h3><p>Les entreprises doivent publier des &#233;tats comptables <strong>annuels </strong>respectant des normes nationales ou internationales, afin de permettre :</p><ul><li><p>aux Etats de les <strong>taxer </strong>;</p></li><li><p>de <strong>comparer </strong>les comptes de diff&#233;rentes entreprises entre eux.</p></li></ul><p>Les normes comptables ne sont <strong>pas unifi&#233;es</strong> et peuvent <strong>diverger </strong>d&#8217;un pays &#224; l&#8217;autre.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Abonnez-vous maintenant&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Abonnez-vous maintenant</span></a></p><p>Les principaux &#233;l&#233;ments comptables sont :</p><ul><li><p>Le <strong>bilan</strong> : une <strong>photographie</strong> de ce que poss&#232;de (<strong>l&#8217;actif</strong>) et ce que doit la soci&#233;t&#233; (<strong>le passif</strong>) le jour de la cl&#244;ture de ses comptes ;</p></li><li><p>Le <strong>compte de r&#233;sultat </strong>: un &#233;tat qui regroupe sur un an l&#8217;ensemble des <strong>enrichissements</strong> (le chiffre d&#8217;affaires) et des <strong>appauvrissements</strong> (les charges) de la soci&#233;t&#233; par nature. La diff&#233;rence entre les deux est le r&#233;sultat, qui peut &#234;tre positif ou n&#233;gatif ;</p></li><li><p><strong>L&#8217;annexe </strong>qui pr&#233;sente toutes les informations d&#8217;importance significative destin&#233;es &#224; compl&#233;ter et &#224; commenter celles donn&#233;es par le bilan et le compte de r&#233;sultat ;</p></li><li><p>Le <strong>tableau des flux de tr&#233;sorerie</strong>, obligatoire pour les soci&#233;t&#233;s cot&#233;es, qui explique la variation &#224; la hausse ou &#224; la baisse de la tr&#233;sorerie &#224; trois niveaux (exploitation, investissement, financement) ;</p></li><li><p>Le <strong>tableau de variation des fonds propres</strong>, obligatoire pour les soci&#233;t&#233;s cot&#233;es, qui r&#233;capitule les dividendes pay&#233;s au cours de l&#8217;exercice et les op&#233;rations r&#233;alis&#233;es sur le capital (&#233;mission d&#8217;actions nouvelles par exemple).</p></li></ul><p>Les diff&#233;rents &#233;tats comptables, ainsi que des rapports extra-financiers sur lesquels je reviendrai ult&#233;rieurement, permettent d&#8217;&#233;tablir une <strong>valorisation </strong>des entreprises.</p><p>Dans le prochain billet, je m&#8217;int&#233;resserai aux actions : comment les valoriser, comment et o&#249; s&#8217;ach&#232;tent-elles et se vendent-elles, quels en sont les risques ?</p><p><em>N&#8217;h&#233;sitez pas &#224; visiter le site d&#8217;Indexa Capital pour d&#233;couvrir le contrat Indexa Vie Spirica. J&#8217;y ai souscrit moi-m&#234;me.</em></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:&quot;button-wrapper&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary button-wrapper" href="https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ"><span>D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica</span></a></p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Le terme de &#8220;gouvernement&#8221; est plus fran&#231;ais mais &#8220;gouvernance&#8221;, qui vient de l&#8217;anglais &#8220;governance&#8221;, s&#8217;est impos&#233;.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>En fait, avant celle-ci, le vote par correspondance s&#8217;&#233;tant impos&#233;.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>C&#8217;est notamment le cas pour certaines soci&#233;t&#233;s aux Etats-Unis, comme Meta. Le fondateur, Mark Zuckerberg, d&#233;tient des actions de classe B qui ont chacune 10 droits de vote. Tr&#232;s minoritaire dans le capital de Meta, Zuckerberg a la majorit&#233; des droits de vote et fait litt&#233;ralement <em>ce qu&#8217;il veut</em> (dans les limites de la loi et de la r&#233;glementation).</p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Une société, c'est quoi (1) ?]]></title><description><![CDATA[Le capital, les actions, les actionnaires]]></description><link>https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/une-societe-cest-quoi-1</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/une-societe-cest-quoi-1</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Philippe Maupas]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2023 14:08:33 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2a54b5f4-b994-4394-bce1-97549fd3c929_1280x853.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><hr></div><p><em>Le lancement de L&#8217;Odyss&#233;e des Placements est soutenu par <a href="https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ">Indexa Capital</a>.</em></p><p><em>En souscrivant <a href="https://indexacapital.com/fr/fra/?invitation_code=jV5EWJ">via ce lien</a> &#224; Indexa Vie Spirica, le contrat d'assurance vie en gestion sous mandat le moins cher de France, vous b&#233;n&#233;ficierez d'une remise de 40% sur les frais d'assurance (qui sont de 0,67%) pendant 12 mois, dans la limite de 15.000 euros de versement et sous r&#233;serve d'un versement initial minimum de 500 euros.</em></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:&quot;button-wrapper&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary button-wrapper" href="https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ"><span>D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica</span></a></p><div><hr></div><p>Une soci&#233;t&#233; est une entit&#233; juridique pouvant prendre la forme d&#8217;une soci&#233;t&#233; de capitaux ou d&#8217;une soci&#233;t&#233; de personnes.</p><p>Les <strong>actionnaires </strong>apportent des <strong>capitaux </strong>et re&#231;oivent des <strong>actions </strong>proportionnellement &#224; leur apport dans le total.</p><p>Une action repr&#233;sente une fraction du capital d&#8217;une entreprise. Son d&#233;tenteur est <strong>propri&#233;taire </strong>d&#8217;une partie de la soci&#233;t&#233;, &#224; hauteur de son poids dans le capital total. Cette d&#233;tention conf&#232;re des <strong>droits </strong>sur lesquels je reviendrai dans un prochain billet.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Abonnez-vous maintenant&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Abonnez-vous maintenant</span></a></p><h3>La soci&#233;t&#233; Odyss&#233;e</h3><p>Imaginons qu&#8217;&#224; sa cr&#233;ation la soci&#233;t&#233; Odyss&#233;e se dote d&#8217;un capital de 100,000 euros, compos&#233; de 1,000 actions d&#8217;une valeur nominale de 100 euros.</p><ul><li><p>Ulysse apporte 60% du capital, soit 60,000 euros et re&#231;oit 600 actions. </p></li><li><p>Mentor apporte 30% du capital, soit 30,000 euros et re&#231;oit 300 actions. </p></li><li><p>Antiphos apporte 10% du capital, soit 10,000 euros et re&#231;oit 100 actions.</p><p></p></li></ul><div id="datawrapper-iframe" class="datawrapper-wrap outer" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/SOgce/1/&quot;,&quot;thumbnail_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/7320b1f5-9dd8-42fe-84be-afd82580ce16_1260x660.png&quot;,&quot;thumbnail_url_full&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:410,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;R&#233;partition du capital de la soci&#233;t&#233; Odyss&#233;e&quot;,&quot;description&quot;:&quot;Create interactive, responsive &amp; beautiful charts &#8212; no code required.&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="DatawrapperToDOM"><iframe id="iframe-datawrapper" class="datawrapper-iframe" src="https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/SOgce/1/" width="730" height="410" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" loading="lazy"></iframe><script type="text/javascript">!function(){"use strict";window.addEventListener("message",(function(e){if(void 0!==e.data["datawrapper-height"]){var t=document.querySelectorAll("iframe");for(var a in e.data["datawrapper-height"])for(var r=0;r<t.length;r++){if(t[r].contentWindow===e.source)t[r].style.height=e.data["datawrapper-height"][a]+"px"}}}))}();</script></div><p></p><p>Ces actions sont g&#233;n&#233;ralement librement n&#233;gociables et transmissibles. Les actionnaires peuvent &#234;tre li&#233;s par un contrat (un <em>pacte d&#8217;actionnaires</em>) qui r&#233;git les ventes et les achats d&#8217;actions.</p><p>La soci&#233;t&#233; permet g&#233;n&#233;ralement de <strong>limiter la responsabilit&#233;</strong> des associ&#233;s au montant qu&#8217;ils apportent.</p><h3>Publique vs priv&#233;e</h3><p>Une soci&#233;t&#233; peut &#234;tre <strong>cot&#233;e en bourse</strong> (<em>publique</em>) ou <strong>non cot&#233;e</strong> (<em>priv&#233;e</em>). <strong>La plupart des soci&#233;t&#233;s sont non cot&#233;es.</strong></p><p>A fin octobre 2023, l&#8217;indice MSCI ACWI IMI<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a>, un des plus diversifi&#233;s, comprenait <strong>9,204 soci&#233;t&#233;s cot&#233;es</strong> de 23 pays consid&#233;r&#233;s comme d&#233;velopp&#233;s et 24 pays consid&#233;r&#233;s comme &#233;mergents<a 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href="https://pixabay.com/fr/users/pignatta-3676473/?utm_source=link-attribution&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_campaign=image&amp;utm_content=6571842">Rodrigo Pignatta</a> de <a href="https://pixabay.com/fr//?utm_source=link-attribution&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_campaign=image&amp;utm_content=6571842">Pixabay</a></figcaption></figure></div><p>Num&#233;riquement, les entreprises sont dans leur immense majorit&#233; de petite taille.</p><p>Il y en a environ 4,2 millions en France selon les chiffres de l&#8217;INSEE (<a href="https://www.insee.fr/fr/statistiques/6666955?sommaire=6667157">source</a>).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cX49!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F51b77f6b-02d7-469d-bbb1-324f82dd330b_960x540.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div 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Si vous passez &#224; Paris, allez chez Biogrenelle, 12 Rue des 4 Fr&#232;res Peignot, 75015 Paris. C&#8217;est bon, c&#8217;est bio, et en plus, le boulanger, c&#8217;est mon cousin.</figcaption></figure></div><p>Voici la r&#233;partition entre micro-entreprises (MIC), petites et moyennes entreprises hors MIC (PME hors MIC), entreprises de taille interm&#233;diaire (ETI) et grandes entreprises (GE), en nombre d&#8217;entreprises et en effectif salari&#233; en &#233;quivalent temps plein (ETP). </p><p>La d&#233;finition de ces cat&#233;gories est <a href="https://www.insee.fr/fr/metadonnees/definition/c1057">ici</a>.</p><div id="datawrapper-iframe" class="datawrapper-wrap outer" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/jV5P4/1/&quot;,&quot;thumbnail_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/86a10398-21a4-48d1-9f56-8d955f37b615_1260x660.png&quot;,&quot;thumbnail_url_full&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:306,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;R&#233;partition des entreprises en France en 2020&quot;,&quot;description&quot;:&quot;Create interactive, responsive &amp; beautiful charts &#8212; no code required.&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="DatawrapperToDOM"><iframe id="iframe-datawrapper" class="datawrapper-iframe" src="https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/jV5P4/1/" width="730" height="306" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" loading="lazy"></iframe><script type="text/javascript">!function(){"use strict";window.addEventListener("message",(function(e){if(void 0!==e.data["datawrapper-height"]){var t=document.querySelectorAll("iframe");for(var a in e.data["datawrapper-height"])for(var r=0;r<t.length;r++){if(t[r].contentWindow===e.source)t[r].style.height=e.data["datawrapper-height"][a]+"px"}}}))}();</script></div><p></p><div id="datawrapper-iframe" class="datawrapper-wrap outer" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/gz5jU/1/&quot;,&quot;thumbnail_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/97374dec-e492-441d-9eb3-50b74e8b597f_1260x660.png&quot;,&quot;thumbnail_url_full&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:333,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;R&#233;partition des effectifs salari&#233;s dans les entreprises en France en 2020 (ETP)&quot;,&quot;description&quot;:&quot;Create interactive, responsive &amp; beautiful charts &#8212; no code required.&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="DatawrapperToDOM"><iframe id="iframe-datawrapper" class="datawrapper-iframe" src="https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/gz5jU/1/" width="730" height="333" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" loading="lazy"></iframe><script type="text/javascript">!function(){"use strict";window.addEventListener("message",(function(e){if(void 0!==e.data["datawrapper-height"]){var t=document.querySelectorAll("iframe");for(var a in e.data["datawrapper-height"])for(var r=0;r<t.length;r++){if(t[r].contentWindow===e.source)t[r].style.height=e.data["datawrapper-height"][a]+"px"}}}))}();</script></div><p></p><p>A titre anecdotique, c&#8217;est &#224; Toulouse, en 1372, que fut cr&#233;&#233;e la 1&#232;re soci&#233;t&#233; recens&#233;e : la Soci&#233;t&#233; des Moulins du Bazacle.</p><h3>Les op&#233;rations sur le capital</h3><p><strong>La souscription initiale</strong> : dans l&#8217;exemple ci-dessus, les associ&#233;s apportent 100,000 euros.</p><p><strong>L&#8217;augmentation de capital</strong> : dans certaines circonstances (besoin de capitaux pour se d&#233;velopper par exemple), la soci&#233;t&#233; peut &#234;tre amen&#233;e &#224; augmenter son capital. Elle cr&#233;e (<em>&#233;met</em>) pour cela de nouvelles actions qui peuvent &#234;tre achet&#233;es (<em>souscrites</em>) par les actionnaires existants au prorata de leur participation, ou bien destin&#233;es &#224; de nouveaux actionnaires.</p><p>Imaginons que pour financer le voyage du retour &#224; Ithaque, la soci&#233;t&#233; Odyss&#233;e ait besoin de 50,000 euros suppl&#233;mentaire. Les banques n&#8217;existent pas et personne n&#8217;est dispos&#233; &#224; lui pr&#234;ter de l&#8217;argent car ce voyage est p&#233;rilleux.</p><p>Odyss&#233;e va donc proc&#233;der &#224; la cr&#233;ation de <strong>500 actions</strong> de <strong>100 euros</strong>.</p><p>Aucun des trois actionnaires existants n&#8217;ayant de liquidit&#233;s, c&#8217;est Euryloque qui apporte les capitaux, ce qui change la r&#233;partition du capital entre les actionnaires : la part des fondateurs diminue (ils sont <em>dilu&#233;s</em>).</p><div id="datawrapper-iframe" class="datawrapper-wrap outer" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/znvOJ/1/&quot;,&quot;thumbnail_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/01ccb580-7341-4adc-b959-ec16f60e50a1_1260x660.png&quot;,&quot;thumbnail_url_full&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:437,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;R&#233;partition du capital de la soci&#233;t&#233; Odyss&#233;e apr&#232;s l'augmentation de capital&quot;,&quot;description&quot;:&quot;Create interactive, responsive &amp; beautiful charts &#8212; no code required.&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="DatawrapperToDOM"><iframe id="iframe-datawrapper" class="datawrapper-iframe" src="https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/znvOJ/1/" width="730" height="437" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" loading="lazy"></iframe><script type="text/javascript">!function(){"use strict";window.addEventListener("message",(function(e){if(void 0!==e.data["datawrapper-height"]){var t=document.querySelectorAll("iframe");for(var a in e.data["datawrapper-height"])for(var r=0;r<t.length;r++){if(t[r].contentWindow===e.source)t[r].style.height=e.data["datawrapper-height"][a]+"px"}}}))}();</script></div><p></p><p><strong>Les cessions</strong> : des actionnaires peuvent d&#233;cider de vendre tout ou partie de leurs actions &#224; des tiers, qui peuvent faire partie des actionnaires existants ou pas.</p><p>Si la valeur de la soci&#233;t&#233; a augment&#233; depuis sa cr&#233;ation<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a>, il est tout &#224; fait possible de valoriser les actions &#224; un nouveau prix refl&#233;tant cette appr&#233;ciation<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a> : au lieu de 100 euros, l&#8217;action Odyss&#233;e peut en valoir 500 car la soci&#233;t&#233; est propri&#233;taire d&#8217;or et de bijoux suite au pillage de Troie.</p><p>Le nominal de l&#8217;action sera toujours de 100 euros, mais sa valorisation a un instant t est cinq fois sup&#233;rieure &#224; ce qu&#8217;elle &#233;tait &#224; l&#8217;origine. Ce qui augmente la <em>valorisation totale </em>de la soci&#233;t&#233;, qui est multipli&#233;e par 5.</p><p>Incidemment, c&#8217;est ainsi que certains entrepreneurs deviennent immens&#233;ment riches (au moins sur le papier<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a>) : ils sont actionnaires d&#232;s la cr&#233;ation de la soci&#233;t&#233; et la valeur de leur participation augmente au fil du temps.</p><p><strong>La r&#233;duction de capital</strong> : la soci&#233;t&#233; peut &#233;galement racheter ses propres actions pour les annuler, ce qui revient &#224; r&#233;duire son capital. Cette pratique est de plus en plus r&#233;pandue dans le monde.</p><h3>Qui sont les actionnaires ?</h3><p>Les actionnaires peuvent &#234;tre :</p><ul><li><p>Des personnes physiques (vous, moi) ;</p></li><li><p>Des personnes morales : certaines d&#8217;entre elles<strong> </strong>sont des <strong>actionnaires professionnels </strong>(les <strong>fonds</strong> par exemple).</p></li></ul><p>Ces actionnaires peuvent &#234;tre des personnes physiques impliqu&#233;es op&#233;rationnellement dans la soci&#233;t&#233; (qui peuvent loger leur participation dans une personne morale qu&#8217;elles contr&#244;lent), ou des personnes physiques ou morales non impliqu&#233;es.</p><p>Dans le prochain billet, nous nous int&#233;resserons plus en d&#233;tail aux actionnaires, &#224; leurs droits et &#224; la gouvernance des soci&#233;t&#233;s.</p><p><em>N&#8217;h&#233;sitez pas &#224; visiter le site d&#8217;Indexa Capital pour d&#233;couvrir le contrat Indexa Vie Spirica. J&#8217;y ai souscrit moi-m&#234;me.</em></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:&quot;button-wrapper&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary button-wrapper" href="https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ"><span>D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica</span></a></p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Nous reviendrons ult&#233;rieurement sur ce qu&#8217;est un indice.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Description en anglais de cet indice <a href="https://www.msci.com/documents/10199/4211cc4b-453d-4b0a-a6a7-51d36472a703">ici</a>.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Nous verrons aussi ult&#233;rieurement quelles sont les diff&#233;rentes techniques pour valoriser une soci&#233;t&#233;.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Nous sommes ici dans le cas d&#8217;une soci&#233;t&#233; non cot&#233;e en bourse. Quand elle est cot&#233;e, le cours de bourse sert de base pour calculer le prix auquel seront &#233;mises les nouvelles actions.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-5" href="#footnote-anchor-5" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">5</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>J&#8217;&#233;cris &#8220;sur le papier&#8221; car la valeur de leur &#8220;fortune&#8221; est th&#233;orique. Oui, Elon Musk, d&#233;tient environ 17% des actions Tesla. Oui, Tesla valait 776 milliards de dollars en bourse le 29 novembre 2023. Oui, la valeur de la participation de Musk &#233;tait donc de 132 milliards de dollars (17% de 776). Mais si Musk d&#233;cidait de vendre toutes ses actions, il n&#8217;en retirerait pas 132 milliards de dollars. Et si Tesla faisait faillite, la valeur des actions pourrait tomber &#224; z&#233;ro.</p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Pourquoi investir ?]]></title><description><![CDATA[Plusieurs bonnes raisons, et une mauvaise]]></description><link>https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/pourquoi-investir</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/pourquoi-investir</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Philippe Maupas]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2023 13:03:40 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F36907c3c-3ee3-46d1-9c8e-e45adef21aa1_5760x3840.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><hr></div><p><em>Le lancement de L&#8217;Odyss&#233;e des Placements est soutenu par <a href="https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ">Indexa Capital</a>.</em></p><p><em>En souscrivant <a href="https://indexacapital.com/fr/fra/?invitation_code=jV5EWJ">via ce lien</a> &#224; Indexa Vie Spirica, le contrat d'assurance vie en gestion sous mandat le moins cher de France, vous b&#233;n&#233;ficierez d'une remise de 40% sur les frais d'assurance (qui sont de 0,67%) pendant 12 mois, dans la limite de 15.000 euros de versement et sous r&#233;serve d'un versement initial minimum de 500 euros.</em></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:&quot;button-wrapper&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary button-wrapper" href="https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ"><span>D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica</span></a></p><div><hr></div><p>Puisque nous avons embarqu&#233; dans l&#8217;Odyss&#233;e des Placements, je dois peut-&#234;tre r&#233;pondre &#224; une question importante : pourquoi investir ?</p><p>Je rappelle quelques d&#233;finitions du glossaire ayant fait l&#8217;objet du <a href="/__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/glossaire">pr&#233;c&#233;dent billet</a>.</p><p><strong>Epargne </strong>: Partie du revenu qui n&#8217;est pas consomm&#233;e.</p><p><strong>Epargnant </strong>: Personne physique disposant d&#8217;une &#233;pargne.</p><p><strong>Investir </strong>: Le fait de placer des capitaux en vue d&#8217;en obtenir une revalorisation dans le temps.</p><p><strong>Investisseur </strong>: Personne physique ou morale pratiquant l&#8217;investissement.</p><p>Qu&#8217;est-ce qui pousse un &#233;pargnant &#224; se transformer en investisseur ? Donc &#224; placer ses capitaux en vue d&#8217;en obtenir une revalorisation dans le temps ?</p><p>Je commence par une raison qui me semble mauvaise : investir pour s&#8217;enrichir <em>rapidement</em>. Il est peut-&#234;tre possible de devenir tr&#232;s riche rapidement en investissant, mais c&#8217;est fort peu probable et surtout fort risqu&#233;.</p><p>J&#8217;avais &#233;crit ceci dans un <a href="/__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/ce-que-vous-ne-trouverez-pas-dans">pr&#233;c&#233;dent billet</a> : </p><blockquote><p><em>L&#8217;Odyss&#233;e des Placements</em> n&#8217;est pas un blog qui vous donnera des <em>tuyaux </em>pour devenir riche rapidement gr&#226;ce &#224; vos placements.</p><p>Je n&#8217;ai <em>pas </em>de tuyaux pour devenir riche rapidement. Les seuls moyens que je connaisse (les jeux de hasard) ont malheureusement une infime probabilit&#233; de vous rendre riche tr&#232;s rapidement. Dans la majeure partie des cas, vous perdrez l&#8217;int&#233;gralit&#233; de votre mise.</p></blockquote><p>Dans le registre de l&#8217;enrichissement rapide, il y a Jason Belfort (Le Loup de Wall Street), qui s&#8217;est enrichi rapidement <em>aux d&#233;pens de ses victimes</em>.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ayqn!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4c87f9c4-1382-4841-9fbe-60a11e667d95_664x466.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ayqn!, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/w_424, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/q_auto:good, 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8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Voici quelques meilleures raisons d&#8217;investir.</p><ul><li><p>On investit son &#233;pargne dans l&#8217;espoir dans obtenir <strong>dans la dur&#233;e une revalorisation sup&#233;rieure &#224; l&#8217;inflation</strong>. Je rappelle que l&#8217;&#233;pargne non investie se d&#233;valorise m&#233;caniquement au fil du temps en raison de l&#8217;inflation. D&#232;s lors que cette derni&#232;re est positive, ne pas placer, c&#8217;est s&#8217;appauvrir relativement de fa&#231;on certaine. <strong>On investit donc son &#233;pargne pour ne pas s&#8217;appauvrir relativement.</strong></p></li><li><p>On investit son &#233;pargne pour obtenir <strong>un compl&#233;ment de revenus</strong> provenant des investissements : des <em>dividendes </em>(pour les <em>actions</em>), des <em>coupons </em>(pour les <em>obligations</em>), des revenus immobiliers. Les termes en italique seront d&#233;finis dans des billets ult&#233;rieurs.</p></li><li><p>On investit son &#233;pargne pour <strong>financer une d&#233;pense future</strong> : acquisition d&#8217;un bien immobilier, &#233;tudes des enfants.</p></li><li><p>On investit son &#233;pargne pour <strong>transmettre</strong> de son vivant ou apr&#232;s son d&#233;c&#232;s un patrimoine &#224; des b&#233;n&#233;ficiaires.</p></li></ul><p>Jordan Belfort illustre les risques de la mauvaise raison d&#8217;investir. Les bonnes raisons d&#8217;investir me font plus penser au jardinage, qui requi&#232;re patience et humilit&#233;.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!faUI!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F36907c3c-3ee3-46d1-9c8e-e45adef21aa1_5760x3840.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!faUI!, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/w_424, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F36907c3c-3ee3-46d1-9c8e-e45adef21aa1_5760x3840.jpeg 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!faUI!, 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y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Photo de <a href="https://unsplash.com/fr/@markusspiske?utm_content=creditCopyText&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_source=unsplash">Markus Spiske</a> sur <a href="https://unsplash.com/fr/photos/piantine-a-foglia-verde-su-vasi-di-plastica-neri-4PG6wLlVag4?utm_content=creditCopyText&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_source=unsplash">Unsplash</a></figcaption></figure></div><p>Et vous, pourquoi investissez-vous ?</p><p></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Abonnez-vous maintenant&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Abonnez-vous maintenant</span></a></p><p></p><p>N&#8217;h&#233;sitez pas &#224; visiter le site d&#8217;Indexa Capital pour d&#233;couvrir le contrat Indexa Vie Spirica. J&#8217;y ai souscrit moi-m&#234;me.</p><p></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:&quot;button-wrapper&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary button-wrapper" href="https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ"><span>D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica</span></a></p><p></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Glossaire]]></title><description><![CDATA[Avant d'embarquer, mettons-nous d'accord sur quelques termes li&#233;s aux placements]]></description><link>https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/glossaire</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/glossaire</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Philippe Maupas]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2023 17:22:16 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RsWP!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe237e414-2c7d-4f0b-9489-7610d4ac11e6_3037x2168.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><hr></div><p><em>Le lancement de L&#8217;Odyss&#233;e des Placements est soutenu par <a href="https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ">Indexa Capital</a>.</em></p><p><em>En souscrivant <a href="https://indexacapital.com/fr/fra/?invitation_code=jV5EWJ">via ce lien</a> &#224; Indexa Vie Spirica, le contrat d'assurance vie en gestion sous mandat le moins cher de France, vous b&#233;n&#233;ficierez d'une remise de 40% sur les frais d'assurance (qui sont de 0,67%) pendant 12 mois, dans la limite de 15.000 euros de versement et sous r&#233;serve d'un versement initial minimum de 500 euros.</em></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:&quot;button-wrapper&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary button-wrapper" href="https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ"><span>D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica</span></a></p><div><hr></div><p>Depuis quelques semaines, on cite fr&#233;quemment Albert Camus :</p><blockquote><p>Mal nommer un objet, c&#8217;est ajouter au malheur de ce monde.</p></blockquote><p>Je ne vends pas de bonheur, mais il me semble utile de pr&#233;ciser quelques d&#233;finitions de termes que l&#8217;on utilise fr&#233;quemment quand on parle de placements, termes qui n&#8217;ont pas forc&#233;ment la m&#234;me signification pour tout le monde.</p><p>Comme je les utiliserai tr&#232;s fr&#233;quemment dans ce Substack, autant les d&#233;finir avant l&#8217;embarquement dans L&#8217;Odyss&#233;e des Placements.</p><p>Vous pourrez vous r&#233;f&#233;rer &#224; tout moment &#224; ce glossaire.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RsWP!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe237e414-2c7d-4f0b-9489-7610d4ac11e6_3037x2168.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RsWP!, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/w_424, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe237e414-2c7d-4f0b-9489-7610d4ac11e6_3037x2168.jpeg 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RsWP!, 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y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><strong>Action </strong>: instrument financier correspondant &#224; une fraction du capital d&#8217;une soci&#233;t&#233;. Le d&#233;tenteur d&#8217;actions est co-propri&#233;taire de la soci&#233;t&#233; &#224; proportion du nombre d&#8217;actions d&#233;tenu par rapport au capital total.</p><p><strong>Banque de d&#233;tail</strong> : Personne morale r&#233;gul&#233;e (voir le terme <strong>R&#233;gulateur</strong>) ayant vocation &#224; collecter les d&#233;p&#244;ts de ses clients, qu&#8217;ils soient particuliers ou professionnels, et &#224; pr&#234;ter de l&#8217;argent &#224; des clients, qu&#8217;ils soient particuliers ou professionnels.</p><p><strong>Compagnie d&#8217;assurance</strong> : Personne morale r&#233;gul&#233;e (voir le terme <strong>R&#233;gulateur</strong>) avant vocation &#224; collecter des primes aupr&#232;s de ses clients, qu&#8217;ils soient particuliers ou professionnels, pour les assurer contre un risque. La mat&#233;rialisation de ce risque donne lieu au versement d&#8217;une indemnisation par l&#8217;assureur &#224; l&#8217;assur&#233;.</p><p><strong>Courtier en assurance</strong> : Personne physique ou morale r&#233;gul&#233;e (voir le terme <strong>R&#233;gulateur</strong>) sous le statut de courtier en op&#233;rations d&#8217;assurance (COA), servant d&#8217;interm&#233;diaire entre des compagnies d&#8217;assurance et des assur&#233;s.</p><p><strong>Conseil en investissements financiers (CIF)</strong> : Personne physique ou morale r&#233;gul&#233;e (voir le terme <strong>R&#233;gulateur</strong>) habilit&#233;e &#224; fournir des prestations de conseil en investissement portant sur des produits financiers, de conseil sur la r&#233;alisation de services d&#8217;investissement et de conseil portant sur la r&#233;alisation d&#8217;op&#233;rations sur biens divers.</p><p><strong>Epargne </strong>: Partie du revenu qui n&#8217;est pas consomm&#233;e.</p><p><strong>Epargnant </strong>: Personne physique disposant d&#8217;une &#233;pargne.</p><p><strong>Fonds </strong>: V&#233;hicule d&#8217;investissement g&#233;r&#233; par une <strong>soci&#233;t&#233; de gestion</strong> (voir ce terme) pouvant prendre la forme d&#8217;une soci&#233;t&#233; ou d&#8217;une copropri&#233;t&#233; g&#233;rant les capitaux fournis par des investisseurs pour le compte de ceux-ci, en contrepartie d&#8217;une r&#233;mun&#233;ration.</p><p><strong>Fonds de pension</strong> : Entit&#233; collectant des contributions aupr&#232;s de ses adh&#233;rents et investissant ou faisant investir ces contributions en vue de les faire fructifier dans le temps, afin de les restituer aux adh&#233;rents, g&#233;n&#233;ralement au moment de la retraite de ces derniers, soit sous forme d'une rente &#224; vie, soit sous forme d&#8217;un capital.</p><p><strong>Gestion d&#8217;actifs</strong> : Activit&#233; consistant &#224; g&#233;rer via des fonds (voir ce terme) les capitaux confi&#233;s par des investisseurs. On parle aussi de gestion pour compte de tiers.</p><p><strong>Investissement </strong>: Placement de capitaux en vue d&#8217;en obtenir une revalorisation dans le temps.</p><p><strong>Investir </strong>: Le fait de placer des capitaux en vue d&#8217;en obtenir une revalorisation dans le temps.</p><p><strong>Investisseur </strong>: Personne physique ou morale pratiquant l&#8217;investissement.</p><p><strong>L&#233;gislateur </strong>: Toute personne physique ou institution participant &#224; l'&#233;laboration de la l&#233;gislation. </p><p><strong>Obligation </strong>: Instrument financier &#233;mis par une personne morale ou un Etat aupr&#232;s d&#8217;investisseurs, donnant lieu au paiement p&#233;riodique d&#8217;int&#233;r&#234;ts par l&#8217;&#233;metteur aux investisseurs, le montant emprunt&#233; &#233;tant rembours&#233; par l&#8217;emprunteur aux investisseurs quand l&#8217;obligation arrive &#224; maturit&#233;.</p><p><strong>Organisme de placement collectif en valeurs mobili&#232;res (OPCVM)</strong> : Terme technique utilis&#233; pour d&#233;signer les <strong>fonds </strong>(voir la d&#233;finition de ce terme).</p><p><strong>Patrimoine </strong>: La totalit&#233; de ce que poss&#232;de une personne physique.</p><p><strong>Patrimoine financier</strong> : Part financi&#232;re du patrimoine d&#8217;une personne physique.</p><p><strong>Patrimoine immobilier</strong> : Part immobili&#232;re du patrimoine d&#8217;une personne physique.</p><p><strong>Personne physique</strong> : Etre humain dot&#233;, en tant que tel, de la personnalit&#233; juridique.</p><p><strong>Personne morale</strong> : Groupement dot&#233; de la personnalit&#233; juridique, pouvant &#234;tre compos&#233; de personnes physiques et de personnes morales. Les personnes morales peuvent &#234;tre de droit public ou priv&#233; (soci&#233;t&#233;s priv&#233;es par exemple).</p><p><strong>Placement</strong> : Voir <strong>Investissement</strong>. </p><p><strong>Placer (son &#233;pargne)</strong> : Voir <strong>Investir</strong>.</p><p><strong>R&#233;gulateur</strong> : Entit&#233; dot&#233;e par la puissance publique de pouvoirs de r&#233;glementation et de supervision d&#8217;un secteur d&#8217;activit&#233; donn&#233;.</p><p><strong>R&#233;gulation financi&#232;re</strong> : Activit&#233; exerc&#233;e par un <strong>r&#233;gulateur </strong>(voir ce terme) ayant deux volets principaux : la r&#233;glementation et la supervision.</p><p><strong>Soci&#233;t&#233; de gestion</strong> : Personne morale r&#233;gul&#233;e pratiquant la <strong>gestion d&#8217;actifs</strong> (voir ce terme).</p><p>Les pr&#233;liminaires sont termin&#233;s, nous allons pouvoir embarquer dans L&#8217;Odyss&#233;e des Placements.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Abonnez-vous maintenant&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Abonnez-vous maintenant</span></a></p><p>N&#8217;h&#233;sitez pas &#224; visiter le site d&#8217;Indexa Capital pour d&#233;couvrir le contrat Indexa Vie Spirica. J&#8217;y ai souscrit moi-m&#234;me.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:&quot;button-wrapper&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary button-wrapper" href="https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ"><span>D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica</span></a></p><p></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Ce que vous ne trouverez pas dans l'Odyssée des Placements]]></title><description><![CDATA[Vous ne deviendrez pas riche rapidement en lisant ce Substack]]></description><link>https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/ce-que-vous-ne-trouverez-pas-dans</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/ce-que-vous-ne-trouverez-pas-dans</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Philippe Maupas]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2023 09:00:54 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gP_k!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F048f12c1-586e-46e4-9860-fba20a8d99ab_3200x2133.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><hr></div><p><em>Le lancement de L&#8217;Odyss&#233;e des Placements est soutenu par <a href="https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ">Indexa Capital</a>.</em></p><p><em>En souscrivant <a href="https://indexacapital.com/fr/fra/?invitation_code=jV5EWJ">via ce lien</a> &#224; Indexa Vie Spirica, le contrat d'assurance vie en gestion sous mandat le moins cher de France, vous b&#233;n&#233;ficierez d'une remise de 40% sur les frais d'assurance (qui sont de 0,67%) pendant 12 mois, dans la limite de 15.000 euros de versement et sous r&#233;serve d'un versement initial minimum de 500 euros.</em></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:&quot;button-wrapper&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary button-wrapper" href="https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ"><span>D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica</span></a></p><div><hr></div><p><a href="/__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/ce-que-vous-trouverez-dans-lodyssee">Mardi dernier</a>, j&#8217;avais essay&#233; d&#8217;expliquer ce que vous alliez trouver dans ce Substack.</p><p>Aujourd&#8217;hui, je vais essayer de faire une liste &#8212; forc&#233;ment incompl&#232;te &#8212; de ce que vous ne trouverez <em>pas </em>dans ce Substack, pour &#233;viter tout malentendu et toute d&#233;ception.</p><p><em>L&#8217;Odyss&#233;e des Placements</em> n&#8217;est pas un blog qui vous donnera des <em>tuyaux </em>pour devenir riche rapidement gr&#226;ce &#224; vos placements.</p><p>Je n&#8217;ai <em>pas </em>de tuyaux pour devenir riche rapidement. Les seuls moyens que je connaisse (les jeux de hasard) ont malheureusement une infime probabilit&#233; de vous rendre riche tr&#232;s rapidement. Dans la majeure partie des cas, vous perdrez l&#8217;int&#233;gralit&#233; de votre mise.</p><p>Je ne suis pas un influenceur, ni un finfluenceur (un influenceur de la finance). 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y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Photo de <a href="https://unsplash.com/fr/@zqlee?utm_content=creditCopyText&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_source=unsplash">ZQ Lee</a> sur <a href="https://unsplash.com/fr/photos/burj-al-arab-DcyL0IoCY0A?utm_content=creditCopyText&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_source=unsplash">Unsplash</a></figcaption></figure></div><p>Vous ne trouverez dans ce blog aucune r&#233;v&#233;lation fracassante sur des produits miracles que votre banquier vous aurait cach&#233;s<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a> ; aucun pr&#234;che sur les revenus passifs<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a> ; aucune recette pour prendre votre retraite t&#244;t, parce que je m&#8217;int&#233;resserai surtout au volet placements et beaucoup moins au 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8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Snake-oil salesman Professor Thaddeus Schmidlap at Enchanted Springs Ranch, Boerne, Texas, USA</figcaption></figure></div><p>J&#8217;ai peu de certitudes, mais j&#8217;ai au moins celle-ci : je n&#8217;ai <em>aucune comp&#233;tence</em> pour d&#233;terminer le <em>bon </em>moment pour investir dans quoi que ce soit. En bon fran&#231;ais<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a>, choisir le bon moment pour investir s&#8217;appelle faire du <em>market timing</em> : je ne sais pas faire. Je n&#8217;ai jamais rencontr&#233; quelqu&#8217;un qui savait faire durablement.</p><p>En revanche, j&#8217;ai une certitude tr&#232;s forte : c&#8217;est <em>toujours </em>le bon moment pour apprendre. Et c&#8217;est toujours le bon moment pour placer son argent.</p><p>J&#8217;insiste de nouveau sur le fait que <em>rien </em>dans ce Substack ne constitue <em>un conseil ou une recommandation d&#8217;investissement</em>.</p><p>N&#8217;h&#233;sitez pas &#224; vous faire accompagner par un professionnel comp&#233;tent, id&#233;alement ind&#233;pendant au sens de la directive MIF 2<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a>, si vous pensez en avoir besoin.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Abonnez-vous maintenant&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/odysseeplacements.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Abonnez-vous maintenant</span></a></p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Votre banquier ne vous cache aucun des produits qu&#8217;on lui a demand&#233; de vous vendre.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Traduction de &#8220;passive income&#8221; : o&#249; comment faire du neuf avec du tr&#232;s vieux en rebaptisant &#8220;revenu passif&#8221; ce qui s&#8217;appelle depuis longtemps &#8220;dividende&#8221;, &#8220;coupon&#8221; ou &#8220;loyer&#8221;.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Financial Independence, Retire Early. Ecole de pens&#233;e n&#233;e aux Etats-Unis selon laquelle, en vivant <em>tr&#232;s frugalement</em> et en investissant judicieusement votre &#233;pargne, vous pourriez prendre votre retraite tr&#232;s t&#244;t gr&#226;ce au capital accumul&#233;.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>J&#8217;essaie dans la mesure du possible d&#8217;&#233;viter les anglicismes, mais ce n&#8217;est pas toujours possible. Si l&#8217;un.e d&#8217;entre vous a un terme fran&#231;ais aussi concis que market timing, j&#8217;en suis preneur.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-5" href="#footnote-anchor-5" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">5</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>D&#233;sol&#233; d&#8217;introduire d&#233;j&#224; des notions qui n&#8217;ont pas encore &#233;t&#233; pr&#233;sent&#233;es dans ce Substack, j&#8217;y reviendrai rapidement. Un conseiller en investissements financiers <em>ind&#233;pendant </em>au sens de la directive MIF 2 ne peut &#234;tre r&#233;mun&#233;r&#233; que par son client, et pas par les fournisseurs de produits sous forme de commissions. S&#8217;il en per&#231;oit, il doit les rendre &#224; son client.</p><p></p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Ce que vous trouverez dans L'Odyssée des Placements]]></title><description><![CDATA[O&#249; je vous donne les &#233;l&#233;ments pour d&#233;terminer si ce Substack est pour vous]]></description><link>https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/ce-que-vous-trouverez-dans-lodyssee</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/p/ce-que-vous-trouverez-dans-lodyssee</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Philippe Maupas]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2023 16:20:17 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SNHB!,w_256,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0f3d8f35-1278-4057-b005-8706261fe2d7_506x506.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>L&#8217;embarquement pour notre Odyss&#233;e des Placements approche. Mais avant de monter &#224; bord, je souhaite publier deux billets pour expliquer ce que je veux faire dans ce Substack, et ce que je ne veux <em>pas </em>y faire.</p><p>En d&#8217;autres termes, pour vous dire ce que vous y trouverez et ce que vous n&#8217;y trouverez <em>pas</em>.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://odysseeplacements.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;S'abonner&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;fr&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Merci de lire L'Odyss&#233;e des Placements ! Abonnez-vous gratuitement pour recevoir de nouveaux articles et soutenir mon travail.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Tapez votre e-mail&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="S'abonner"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p>Je rappelle que le lancement de L&#8217;Odyss&#233;e des Placements est soutenu par <a href="https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ">Indexa Capital</a>.</p><p>En souscrivant  <a href="https://indexacapital.com/fr/fra/?invitation_code=jV5EWJ">via ce lien</a> &#224; Indexa Vie Spirica, le contrat d'assurance vie en gestion sous mandat le moins cher de France, vous b&#233;n&#233;ficierez d'une remise de 40% sur les frais d'assurance (qui sont de 0,67%) pendant 12 mois, dans la limite de 15.000 euros de versement et sous r&#233;serve d'un versement initial minimum de 500 euros.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://indexacapital.com/t/jV5EWJ"><span>D&#233;couvrir Indexa Vie Spirica</span></a></p><p>Que trouverez-vous dans l&#8217;Odyss&#233;e des Placements ?</p><p>Vous y trouverez une description des acteurs de l&#8217;&#233;cosyst&#232;me de la production et de la distribution de produits de placement, qui se compose :</p><ul><li><p>De producteurs de produits de placement (notamment les soci&#233;t&#233;s de gestion).</p></li><li><p>De producteurs d&#8217;enveloppes de d&#233;tention de produits de placement (notamment les banques et les compagnies d&#8217;assurance vie).</p></li><li><p>De distributeurs de produits de placement. La plupart de ces distributeurs sont des vendeurs, certains sont &#233;galement des conseillers au service de leurs clients et pay&#233;s directement par eux.</p></li><li><p>De march&#233;s o&#249; s&#8217;ach&#232;tent et se vendent les produits de placement (les bourses notamment).</p></li><li><p>De fournisseurs de services et de donn&#233;es &#224; destination des diff&#233;rents acteurs</p><ul><li><p>Agences de notation cr&#233;dit</p></li><li><p>Cr&#233;ateurs d&#8217;indices</p></li><li><p>Fournisseurs de donn&#233;es financi&#232;res</p></li><li><p>Fournisseurs de donn&#233;es extra-financi&#232;res</p></li></ul></li><li><p>De fournisseurs d&#8217;informations sur les march&#233;s : les m&#233;dias.</p></li><li><p>De consommateurs de produits de placement.</p><ul><li><p>Certains sont des professionnels.</p></li><li><p>D&#8217;autres ne le sont pas.</p></li></ul></li><li><p>De r&#233;gulateurs, qui fixent (parfois<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a>) et s&#8221;efforcent de faire respecter les r&#233;gles du jeu.</p></li><li><p>D&#8217;entreprises et d&#8217;Etats<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a>. Les entreprises peuvent &#234;tre cot&#233;es en bourse ou pas, et s&#8217;endettent en &#233;mettant des obligations vendues &#224; des investisseurs ou en empruntant aupr&#232;s de pr&#234;teurs. Les Etats &#233;mettent des obligations vendues &#224; des investisseurs.</p></li></ul><p>Chacun de ces groupes d&#8217;acteurs a son propre mod&#232;le &#233;conomique et ob&#233;it &#224; des incitations qui conditionnent la fa&#231;on dont il se comporte. </p><p>Je m&#8217;adresse ici en priorit&#233; &#224; des consommateurs de produits de placement non professionnels, et mon objectif est de contribuer &#224; leur litt&#233;ratie financi&#232;re, dont je rappelle que c&#8217;est </p><blockquote><p>le fait de disposer des connaissances, des comp&#233;tences et de la confiance en soi n&#233;cessaires pour prendre des d&#233;cisions financi&#232;res responsables.</p></blockquote><p>Ma modeste ambition est de vous apporter les <em>connaissances </em>n&#233;cessaires pour prendre des d&#233;cisions financi&#232;res responsables.</p><p>La r&#233;cente et passionnante <a href="https://www.amf-france.org/fr/actualites-publications/communiques/communiques-de-lamf/une-etude-de-locde-pour-lamf-dresse-le-portrait-des-nouveaux-investisseurs-particuliers-francais">&#233;tude</a> r&#233;alis&#233;e par l&#8217;OCDE pour l&#8217;AMF (le r&#233;gulateur des march&#233;s financiers en France) a montr&#233; que les nouveaux investisseurs<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a> ont souvent un niveau de confiance dans leurs connaissances financi&#232;res tr&#232;s &#233;lev&#233; et investissent dans des produits complexes dont ils ne comprennent pas toujours le fonctionnement.</p><p>73 % d&#8217;entre eux (dont 80 % chez les 18-24 ans) consid&#232;rent que leur priorit&#233; est de gagner beaucoup d&#8217;argent tr&#232;s rapidement gr&#226;ce &#224; leurs investissements.</p><p>Les conditions pour que ces nouveaux investisseurs puissent prendre des d&#233;cisions financi&#232;res responsables ne me semblent pas r&#233;unies.</p><p>Je souhaite insister sur le fait que <em>rien </em>dans ce Substack ne constitue <em>un conseil ou une recommandation d&#8217;investissement</em>.</p><p>N&#8217;h&#233;sitez pas &#224; vous faire accompagner par un professionnel comp&#233;tent, id&#233;alement ind&#233;pendant au sens de la directive MIF 2<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a>, si vous pensez en avoir besoin.</p><p>Votre banquier n&#8217;est <em>pas </em>ind&#233;pendant au sens de MIF 2, il vous <em>vend </em>les produits de la banque. Il peut &#233;videmment &#234;tre comp&#233;tent.</p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>C&#8217;est parfois le l&#233;gislateur qui fixe les r&#232;gles du jeu.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Ou d&#8217;institutions publiques ou para-publiques b&#233;n&#233;ficiant de la garantie d&#8217;un Etat.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Ceux qui ont commenc&#233; &#224; investir dans des produits de placement &#224; partir de 2020.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>D&#233;sol&#233; d&#8217;introduire d&#233;j&#224; des notions qui n&#8217;ont pas encore &#233;t&#233; pr&#233;sent&#233;es dans ce Substack, j&#8217;y reviendrai rapidement. Un conseiller en investissements financiers <em>ind&#233;pendant </em>au sens de la directive MIF 2 ne peut &#234;tre r&#233;mun&#233;r&#233; que par son client, et pas par les fournisseurs de produits sous forme de commissions. S&#8217;il en per&#231;oit, il doit les rendre &#224; son client.</p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item></channel></rss>