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y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p></p><p>Talk of an impending Tucker Carlson third-party bid in 2028 has been making the rounds in recent weeks after he hosted a few former Trump allies at his home, a list of names that includes such figures as Thomas Massie and Marjorie Taylor Greene.</p><p>The rumor is that he intends on either launching his own bid for president as a way to punish Trump for his betrayal of the MAGA base, which he sees himself as speaking on behalf of, particularly on the issue of the Iran war.</p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/DropSiteNews/status/2084856709554528415?s=20&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;&#9889;&#65039; Joe Kent says he, Tucker Carlson, Marjorie Taylor Greene and Thomas Massie are hoping to build a new political movement or third party built around opposition to U.S. wars, AIPAC, and corporate money, with the initial goal of fielding a candidate for the 2028 presidential&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;DropSiteNews&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Drop Site&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/2051584078982291464/B_QyEgqf_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-08-05T04:19:08.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[{&quot;img_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XSnZ!,w_1028,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best,fl_progressive:steep/l_play_button_usfui2,w_88,e_colorize:0/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F__ss-rehost__tw-video-preview-13_2084855676476485632.jpg&quot;,&quot;link_url&quot;:&quot;https://t.co/GRECYKoR4y&quot;}],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;MAGA was betrayed. We all were. It's time for a new path forward. More tomorrow night at 6 PM ET on https://t.co/sLkXnGKCFd.&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;TuckerCarlson&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Tucker Carlson&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1666923736132460544/9LWCHVOp_normal.jpg&quot;},&quot;reply_count&quot;:166,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:806,&quot;like_count&quot;:4423,&quot;impression_count&quot;:290304,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:&quot;https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/2084855676476485632/vid/avc1/1280x720/0EM_BkaVjfqaB1z4.mp4&quot;,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:&quot;13_2084855676476485632&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><p>This is all very strange, though, especially considering Tucker&#8217;s close ties to current Vice President and noted Thiel-sponsored homunculus JD Vance, in addition to his own ties to the Thiel-backed Rockbridge Network (which I have <a href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/p/fuentes-tucker-rockbridge-and-the">discussed in depth</a> previously).</p><p>What to make of this? On the one hand Tucker seems to be threatening to launch a campaign which, if actually followed through on, would almost certainly sink Vance in the 2028 general election. On the other hand Tucker has also publicly broken with the Trump administration (which Vance stumps for shamelessly regardless of how idiotic or evil any of the policies become in practice) and has essentially denounced Trump in a break that appears to be permanent.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p></p><p>Admittedly, there is an element of speculation to what I&#8217;m about to say; I don&#8217;t know this for a certainty, as I am currently not privy to exactly what Tucker is thinking. However, if we go off of the actual evidence in front of us, I think it&#8217;s quite reasonable to believe that Tucker&#8217;s reported third-party scheme is likely little more than an attempt to help his friend JD Vance win in 2028 and not, in fact, a genuine and principled attempt to either establish a real anti-interventionist third party or actually punish the Republican Party for its betrayal of its own voters.</p><p>I could be wrong about this, and if I am, I encourage&#8212;no, I demand!&#8212;that you throw this back in my face in November of 2028 when Carlson&#8217;s third-party run has ended Vance&#8217;s campaign and, likely, his political career as well and, in the process, made Senator John Ossoff the next President of the United States. This admittedly could happen, but I&#8217;m quite positive it&#8217;s not going to, and I&#8217;ll tell you why.</p><p>It&#8217;s because Tucker is a schemer. He likes to see his name in the New York Times and the Washington Post; he likes knowing that he&#8217;s a &#8216;player,&#8217; that he&#8217;s someone who matters; he likes knowing he can easily get ahold of the president and/or vice president of the United States and that they will <em>listen</em> to what he has to say. In this sense he&#8217;s like basically anyone else in Washington (who are all the second most important people in the city; the first being whatever particular &#8216;friend&#8217; they have in a high place they have decided to glom onto at that particular moment).</p><p>Thus, given this fact, he&#8217;s somewhat predictable. Now when you look at actual third-party spoilers, say Ralph Nader or Ross Perot, they tend to fit a certain profile: passionate, eccentric fanatics who have extreme integrity (making them unblackmailable) and simply are not interested in compromising with anyone at any price. RFK Jr.&#8217;s utter lack of integrity goes a long way to explaining why he ended his run early: he didn&#8217;t believe in any of it (not really, at least). What he wanted, at the end of the day, was to increase his fame and fortune and keep feeling important in the process (like most people).</p><p>For all his theatrics and moral gesticulating, this is also what Tucker wants. And the surest way to do this is by ensuring that his &#8216;friend&#8217; Vance is the next president of the United States. To do otherwise, to actually run a real third-party campaign, would be relatively insane as he would be lighting on fire essentially all of his influence in the GOP, unless, of course, Tucker values his convictions more than his status and access, which he almost certainly doesn&#8217;t.</p><p>If he actually were sincere about his views, he would do everything in his power to ensure that Vance never becomes president, as he is a literal meat puppet for a group of people (led by Thiel) who believe that a conflict with China is advantageous for them and are also heavily invested in the defense and surveillance industrial complex that profits massively from America&#8217;s various overseas adventures.</p><p>But again, he&#8217;s not going to do this. Instead he&#8217;s going to make himself useful; he&#8217;s going to try to help Vance solve one of the biggest problems facing him, namely that he currently works for a demented boomer who isn&#8217;t under his or really anyone&#8217;s (except perhaps Benjamin Netanyahu&#8217;s) control and has now completely fucked up Vance&#8217;s original plan: attach himself to Trump&#8217;s brand as an heir apparent while the administration runs the ball down the middle to score easy wins while avoiding obvious pitfalls (like going to war with Iran).</p><p>Alas, this didn&#8217;t happen, and now Vance and the Thieloids behind him are scrambling to concoct a way for him to pull this thing out. 2028 is probably his one and only chance to do this; Vance doesn&#8217;t have enough oomph and talent to count on being able to come back in 2032 or 36 and be handed the nomination. Remember, Vance is just a basic model, a T-101, with rubber skin, dead mascara-lined eyes, bad jokes, and an extraordinarily awkward manner. </p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/MeidasTouch/status/1826674904806424962?s=20&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;JD Vance had a very awkward visit to a donut shop in Georgia earlier. Trust us, it&#8217;s worse than you even think. &quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;MeidasTouch&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;MeidasTouch&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1594082385347215360/NnuN19pl_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2024-08-22T17:36:49.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[{&quot;img_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!IUv_!,w_1028,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best,fl_progressive:steep/l_play_button_usfui2,w_88,e_colorize:0/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F__ss-rehost__tw-video-preview-7_1826674821943754753.jpg&quot;,&quot;link_url&quot;:&quot;https://t.co/Fnohh0bKUf&quot;}],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{},&quot;reply_count&quot;:3807,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:3719,&quot;like_count&quot;:33782,&quot;impression_count&quot;:33038290,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:&quot;https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1826674821943754753/pu/vid/avc1/1280x720/vi0INulvAIMJh7BU.mp4?tag=12&quot;,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:&quot;7_1826674821943754753&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><p>Not exactly someone you can count on to really win anything on their own. If he were to fail, the better move for Thiel would simply be to retire him in favor of a new, more advanced model (the T-1000, still in stealth mode I am told), not try to run him again.</p><p>So it&#8217;s likely do or die in 2028 for team Vance. But how do you even go about that? You&#8217;re dealing with a &#8216;3rd and long&#8217; situation without a lot of good options. 3rd and very, very long.</p><p>Part of Vance&#8217;s problem is that he is stuck, forced to defend a man who is almost certain to go down as one of the worst presidents in American history (and may very well end up being &#8216;number one&#8217; by the time this is all over); in addition, his administration is staffed and run by some of the stupidest and most corrupt people in the United States. People whose &#8216;work&#8217; he will also be forced to defend lest he incur the wrath of the big man himself.</p><p>Unless Trump dies in the next year or so (which is certainly not impossible tbf) this is going to be Vance&#8217;s fate. He should lose under these circumstances, but then again, no one ever went broke betting on the incompetence of the Democratic Party. Regardless, he&#8217;s running, and he&#8217;s going to do everything to try and win.</p><p>What Tucker and his third-party run offer Vance is the ability to distance himself from Trump without actually getting on his bad side. An extraordinarily risky move, to be sure, but one that he nevertheless has to take. Most of Trump&#8217;s base loves him regardless of how much of a disaster his second term has been. In addition, they hate Iran and would gladly have Trump glass every primary school and daycare in the country if it meant making it even a little bit easier for Israeli settlers to murder Palestinian families in their sleep, burn their houses down and steal their land. This is just how it is. However, &#8216;most&#8217; is not enough, at least not enough to win. For that, Vance would need the entire Trump coalition and then some. This includes the part of the party that is principally anti-interventionist.</p><p>But how to do this if he has to at least pay lip service to the greatness and necessity of Trump&#8217;s war with Iran? The answer is just to have someone else critique the war for him and Trump, and that someone is obviously Tucker.</p><p>The move would be to have Tucker run as a third-party candidate, in the process getting the anti-interventionist wing of the party excited. During this run, Tucker would attack both Trump and the war in Iran, in addition to the plethora of other administration policies that are unpopular. However, Tucker will never attack Vance directly, instead speaking highly of him as a secret &#8216;voice of restraint&#8217; and &#8216;sanity&#8217; within the White House. Someone who has, as bad as things are, worked to prevent them from getting even worse.</p><p>At the end of this campaign Tucker will then bring the ship to a sudden halt and declare that while he has loved talking about the issues that are important to &#8216;the people,&#8217; he knows that he cannot win and that to continue on this path would be the same as directly handing the Democrats the White House. A fate that would be even worse than continued GOP rule, disastrous as it has been, because&#8230;Fauci, or something. Therefore, he will endorse JD Vance, a man who he trusts and who the nation can trust as well, who has all of the benefits of Trump without the drawbacks.</p><p>At least that&#8217;s what I expect the plan is at this stage. One way or another the anti-interventionist faction needs to be brought back into the fold (even if they are only 15-20 percent of the base). The best way to do this is not to somehow convince them that the Iran war is &#8216;cool and based&#8217; in the manner of many contemporary RW influencer prostitutes but rather to let them vent and have their anti-war catharsis so long as they are eventually reconciled to their fate as branded GOP livestock for life and proceed to return to their assigned corrals.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/p/tuckers-fake-third-party-bid-and?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/p/tuckers-fake-third-party-bid-and?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><p>Now, whether this strategy will actually work is another matter entirely; it&#8217;s pretty high risk, and there&#8217;s a lot that could go wrong between now and then. This is particularly true if the war continues to escalate and things get even worse for Trump (as seems likely), but as of right now that&#8217;s what I believe the &#8216;plan&#8217; to get Vance elected in 2028 consists of.</p><p>That&#8217;s the Ring-A-Ding move baby!</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Leverage Research, Flock Cameras, and Rod Dreher's Big Break Up With JD Vance]]></title><description><![CDATA[The Week in Gay Space Fascism]]></description><link>https://postscript1794.substack.com/p/leverage-research-flock-cameras-and</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://postscript1794.substack.com/p/leverage-research-flock-cameras-and</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan Cioran]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2026 05:12:15 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ko7z!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa0a0741a-64ff-41b6-98e3-76bf4cf5cf8e_1152x786.png" 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y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p></p><p>I have decided to dip my feet into doing some more &#8216;weekly newsletter&#8217; style write-ups here where I share links of interest along with some brief commentary on them. I like writing the bigger deep-dive pieces and still intend on doing this, but it takes quite a bit of time, whereas these can be a bit more informal and off-the-cuff. It would be nice to do one every week, but life does get in the way sometimes, so let&#8217;s just say they will be released &#8216;periodically.&#8217;</p><p>Let&#8217;s get down to it. A few things of note this week:</p><h3>Leverage Research: Peter Thiel&#8217;s MKULTRA</h3><p>If you haven&#8217;t read <span class="mention-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Lydia Laurenson&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:757884,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/7b25b7d7-a728-4dfb-9d3e-5cfea91133f7_2585x2585.jpeg&quot;,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;922cfd1c-af33-4a57-9c86-1dc153ee1d82&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span> &#8217;s <a href="/__u/lydialaurenson.substack.com/p/the-inside-story-of-leverage-research">incredible piece</a> on Leverage Research, you absolutely have to asap. It&#8217;s stunning stuff, very well researched, and jives with everything I&#8217;ve known about it (and I&#8217;ve known about it for a long time) but really does expand our knowledge about it significantly. </p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>Simply put, Leverage is/was a kind of cult led by the self-styled guru Geoff Anders; it was rationalist-adjacent and employed a significant staff, all of whom were paid by Anders to live together in a creepy group house setting and subject themselves and others to various types of psychological manipulations. </p><p>Thiel is on record as being one of Leverage&#8217;s early backers, so the connection is very much out in the open at this point. </p><p>As Laurenson describes it:</p><blockquote><p></p><p>But almost all Leveragers devoted hours to studying self-examination using techniques forged by its founder, a charismatic analytical philosopher named Geoff Anders. Geoff developed his own theory of psychology while earning his philosophy PhD at Rutgers; Leveragers sometimes combined his system with alternative systems popular in the Bay Area, including spiritual meditations and ideas from popular therapeutic schools. Few had any professional training in either the academic or therapeutic versions of psychology. Leveragers generally referred to their basket of techniques as &#8220;introspection tools,&#8221; and these formed the basis of their Psychology program.</p></blockquote><p>In addition, and perhaps unsurprisingly, Leverage was also something of a sex cult, with many of the higher-ups involved in polyamorous relationships with other Leverage &#8216;employees&#8217;.</p><p>Samo Burja, who is a moron in addition to being a fraud and has since gone on to somewhat successfully market himself as a leading guru within the Thiel world, is all over this piece. I mean, Samo is famously a creep but even I didn&#8217;t realise the extent of it.</p><blockquote><p>Eventually, in 2018, a neoreactionary group that had multiple members at Leverage made monogamy a requirement for members in good standing, which some thought odd given that more than one neoreactionary, including Samo, were in open relationships, as was most Leverage leadership, including Geoff&#8230;</p></blockquote><blockquote><p><span>David was designated a &#8220;master&#8221; within Leverage, along with Geoff Anders, Samo Burja, and a man who spent years at Leverage developing his own school of meditation. (The fourth &#8220;master&#8221; now describes himself as &#8220;enlightened&#8221; in a social media bio, and did not respond to outreach for this story.) The title &#8220;master&#8221; carried an unclear but powerful status within the ecosystem. An ex-Leverager says that &#8220;masters&#8221; had a perceived &#8220;halo&#8221; and there was a shared &#8220;blind spot around people&#8217;s character and ethics that led to empowering people with questionable morals.&#8221; This halo effect made it hard to give masters negative feedback. Worse, the tricky power dynamics permeated their whole lives: Many ecosystem members lived in buildings controlled by Leverage leadership; those from foreign countries had visas dependent on their Leverage jobs.</span></p><p><span>Those who held the title &#8220;master&#8221; were widely gossiped about, and sometimes ran into interpersonal problems. In the case of Samo, some colleagues thought him a harmless flirt, but others were discomfited by his sexual behavior. A male ex-Leverager says he recalls a moment when Samo unexpectedly showed him a naked photo of one of Samo&#8217;s girlfriends, which he found uncomfortable (Samo denies this). One woman went so far as to file an official complaint against Samo alleging sexual abuse and misconduct. When asked about the complaint in 2024, Geoff says there was an internal investigation, which concluded that Samo &#8220;acted with bad judgment.&#8221; (The author of the complaint declined to comment for this story. Samo responded to my request for comment in writing: &#8220;The complaint was filed by an ex-girlfriend, not a coworker. It was an unfortunate and messy interpersonal conflict. I deny any wrongdoing.&#8221;)</span></p></blockquote><p>The neoreactionary group in question (which Samo was a part of) went on to be responsible for the Thiel world propaganda rag &#8216;Palladium Magazine&#8217; (itself a very thinly veiled rebranding of the online neoreactionary magazine &#8216;Social Matter&#8217; run by the then-existent &#8216;Hestia Society,&#8217; which was itself something of a cult and likely what the individuals in question had been originally hired by Leverage to run as their &#8216;research project&#8217;). </p><p>The leader of that particular project, fwiw, is arguably one of the most malignant, vicious, and irredeemable of Thiel&#8217;s <s>catam</s>&#8230;err&#8230;uhh &#8217;associates.&#8217; But more on all this stuff another time (there will be a deep dive from me covering a lot of the angles Laurenson missed on this topic in the not too distant future). In the meantime, go read it; it&#8217;s wild stuff.</p><h3>Thiel&#8217;s Flock Cameras and Unherd Running Interference for Them</h3><p><span class="mention-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Pedro L. Gonzalez&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:1004724,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F09cf4378-a6a9-4bf7-a8a5-0347f8ced42a_959x1280.png&quot;,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;478bda84-8542-40ca-befa-fdf9c7d51fdd&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span> has a very worthwhile <a href="/__u/substack.com/home/post/p-208473633">new piece</a> up on the rise of the, now ubiquitous, Flock cameras and the new reality of mass surveillance in America:</p><blockquote><p><span>Flock isn&#8217;t the only manufacturer of cameras with automated license plate reader (ALPR) technology. But it is the largest, with more than </span><a href="https://www.zdnet.com/article/flock-ai-cameras-risks-us-how-to-find-nearby-what-they-track/"><span>90,000 units</span></a><span> silently watching highways, parking lots, and streets nationwide. Flock creates a visual fingerprint of your vehicle&#8212;the make, model, color, license plate, bumper stickers, even dings and dents&#8212;and then uploads it to a database, where users can access it. Its vast network of cameras can create a detailed record of an individual&#8217;s movements, effectively allowing for warrantless mass surveillance of anyone within its field of view&#8230;</span></p></blockquote><p>Unmentioned in the piece but, fwiw Thiel&#8217;s Founder&#8217;s Fund (in addition to Andreessen Horowitz,) is a significant financial backer of Flock.</p><blockquote><p><span>&#8230;Yet Langley seems undeterred by the groundswell of backlash. Speaking to </span><em><span>Forbes, </span></em><span>he </span><a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2025/09/03/ai-startup-flock-thinks-it-can-eliminate-all-crime-in-america/"><span>predicted</span></a><span> that within the next decade, Flock&#8217;s fixed and flying products could blanket the country in an inescapable surveillance field like so many unblinking eyes. It&#8217;s how we would eradicate all forms of crime, once and for all, he believes. Langley rejects the idea that living under the largest security state the world has ever seen would come at the cost of civil liberties. It&#8217;s unclear which one Langley would pick, if given a choice between the two. His ideal regime calls to mind the OneState from Yevgeny Zamyatin&#8217;s novel </span><em><span>We</span></em><span>&#8230;</span></p></blockquote><p>Meanwhile, over at UnHerd, they are letting an obvious hack run wild in defense of Flock, employing <a href="https://unherd.com/2026/07/the-lefts-war-on-anti-crime-tech/?edition=us">every canard available.</a> Not at all unlikely, given the author&#8217;s background, that she&#8217;s doing 1040 work for whatever DC PR firm Flock has hired to try and weather the anti-surveillance storm. Sorry to break the immersion here, but that&#8217;s actually how these things tend to work irl. A significant percentage of the pieces you read at places like Unherd (really any relevant place that publishes opinion pieces) are not, shall we say, fully organic. Especially the ones that just so happen to be pushing in favor of the interests of entities that can afford the services of DC PR firms.</p><h3>Rod&#8217;s Big Breakup With JD Vance</h3><p>Breaking up is hard to do. We&#8217;ve all been there!</p><p>Sadly, that seems to be the misfortune that is currently befalling our beloved friend of the &#8216;stack, Rod Dreher, as his longtime (and famously passionate) relationship with soulless sociopathic striver, current Vice President of the United States, and noted artisanal Thiel-grown homunculus, JD Vance.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/p/leverage-research-flock-cameras-and?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/p/leverage-research-flock-cameras-and?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><p>Apparently Vance ghosted him after Dreher told Vance he needed to denounce Nick Fuentes and the noxious elements of the American far-right. </p><p>Apparently he didn&#8217;t like that&#8230;not one bit.</p><p></p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/JBoreingShow/status/2081780461097918629?s=20&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;\&quot;I don't think we're friends anymore; he cut me off.\&quot;\n\n<span class=\&quot;tweet-fake-link\&quot;>@roddreher</span> visited his friend JD Vance last fall, warning him to draw a red line against groyperism and Jew-hate rising on the right.\n\nThe response left Dreher questioning Vance's ability to lead. &quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;JBoreingShow&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;The Jeremy Boreing Show&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/2077034834765963264/a94aiuIQ_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-07-27T16:35:14.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[{&quot;img_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jF0K!,w_1028,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:best,fl_progressive:steep/l_play_button_usfui2,w_88,e_colorize:0/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F__ss-rehost__tw-video-preview-13_2081779903872049152.jpg&quot;,&quot;link_url&quot;:&quot;https://t.co/BJKQDVpqLG&quot;}],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{},&quot;reply_count&quot;:296,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:428,&quot;like_count&quot;:3015,&quot;impression_count&quot;:791881,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:&quot;https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/2081779903872049152/vid/avc1/1280x720/7tdvfXxIFERfunZu.mp4&quot;,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:&quot;13_2081779903872049152&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><p>Dreher obviously just doesn&#8217;t understand how these things work, and it almost makes you feel sorry for the guy. The Vance camp (which is obviously also the Thiel camp) believes that the Far-Right/&#8217;Dissident Right&#8217;/Alt-Right (whatever you want to call it) is his base and their support will be critical if he wants to win in &#8216;28. Thiel played a big role in setting up the original alt-right, and his role in the current so-called &#8216;dissident right&#8217; is far, far larger. Fuentes is, of course, a problem but one that (I suspect, <a href="/__u/open.substack.com/pub/postscript1794/p/fuentes-tucker-rockbridge-and-the?r=4b5rn6&amp;utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&amp;utm_medium=post%20viewer">as I wrote previously</a>) will likely be solved one way or another for him come general election time (assuming the Iran war doesn&#8217;t completely consume the rest of Trump&#8217;s presidency, which is very possible, if not likely, tbf). </p><p>Dreher completely misses (doesn&#8217;t want to see?) how this works. No wonder Vance lost patience with him.</p><p> It seems like he&#8217;s probably off Team Vance for good now, and I expect his budding friendship with Thiel is also about to inexplicably be on the rocks. Sad! </p><p>Regardless, while theoretically Dreher could be useful if he actually woke up and grew a brain, it seems his next move will likely be to some kind of DW-style &#8216;Western Civilization&#8217; branded outlet. Where it appears he will likely go on to denounce Vance and co. for not being Zionist enough, a message that has the virtue of being simultaneously both ineffective and moronic.</p><p>That&#8217;s all for this week&#8230;</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Postscript 1794! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[The ZOË Conference and Peter Thiel's Plot to Subvert Christianity From Within]]></title><description><![CDATA[Or: Shadows on the Wall of Luke Burgis's Wine Cave...]]></description><link>https://postscript1794.substack.com/p/the-zoe-conference-and-peter-thiels</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://postscript1794.substack.com/p/the-zoe-conference-and-peter-thiels</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan Cioran]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2026 13:50:11 GMT</pubDate><enclosure 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only a few days, at the end of the month of July of 2026, at an exclusive vineyard located in the rolling hills of Napa County, California, something very, very strange is going to happen.</p><p>Deep in the bowels of a sumptuous wine cave, <a href="https://www.cluny.org/events/zoe-conference/">a conversation</a> is going to take place concerning the more chthonic realities of existence: faith, mimesis, machines, God, and the very nature of desire itself. But this conversation will be very unlike most other similarly themed rubber-chicken-dinneresque events you might attend in, say, Washington, D.C. For starters the food will likely be much better, seeing as the event is 1) at a resort in Napa and 2) costing attendees a cool $795 for general admission (almost as much as the annual fee on the Amex Platinum) and $1995 for &#8220;Founder/VIP&#8221; admission (which includes what you would expect it to include). But even more fundamental than this will be the nature of the conversation, as unlike, well, pretty much all such conferences before it, this one will involve a roundtable discussion, but one not merely between humans and other humans; rather, it will be a discussion between humans and an AI. 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y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p></p><p>In addition, Bryan Johnson, the tech multi-millionaire who has become famous for the great lengths he has gone to in his attempt to literally live forever, which have included transfusing himself with blood plasma leeched from his teenage son in addition to subjecting his penis to both electric shocks and Botox injections, will give a keynote address discussing his various attempts to &#8220;use AI to live forever.&#8221;</p><p>But the oddest part of all of this is that this event will begin not with a reading from Isaac Asimov or Ayn Rand or some new rationalist manifesto but rather with a mass officiated by a Catholic priest, who won&#8217;t be the only priest there either. In addition, two more priests (both Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox) will then give talks on various topics, including technological attempts to raise the dead. </p><p>How did this happen? Who is behind this event? And what do they really want?</p><p>The answers to these questions, it turns out, are actually far stranger than the event itself.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>To no one who subscribes to this Substack&#8217;s surprise, this conference has Thiel&#8217;s fingerprints all over it to an almost comical extent. This, in spite of the fact that Thiel&#8217;s name is, perhaps unsurprisingly, absolutely nowhere to be found in the promotional material for the conference. If one were just stumbling across the website with little to no knowledge of the Thielverse, you could be forgiven for thinking that this was, somehow, actually a Christian conference given the speakers and context. Which brings us to the heart of the matter: the man behind the event.</p><h3>Who is Luke Burgis, and what does he want? </h3><p>Luke Burgis is an impressive guy; he also seems like an extremely &#8220;nice&#8221; and amiable one to boot. In fact, I&#8217;m sure that if we met IRL, we&#8217;d have a great time and an even greater conversation. Burgis is an interesting and charming guy, an NYU grad and former Catholic seminarian turned tech-adjacent entrepreneur, and is the author of two different books. Thus, we can conclude with some confidence that Burgis is a genuinely smart guy. </p><p>However, this also means he&#8217;s smart enough to know better and smart enough to know the true nature of the political, intellectual, and theological project he is a part of and why it is, ultimately, profoundly and irredeemably evil.  </p><p>Of course, I don&#8217;t think Luke rubs his hands together at night dreaming of the sinister endgame he is working with Thiel to fulfill. No, almost certainly he has convinced himself that he is part of a noble, cutting-edge movement that has the potential to do great things for American society in the years to come and that, while there are certainly some rough edges and eccentric personalities involved, given the right amount of positive influence (brought to bear by figures like himself, of course), good will ultimately triumph, resulting in a new age of Aquarius overseen by Thiel where &#8220;Athens, Jerusalem, and Silicon Valley&#8221; all live together in harmony and humanity flourishes as a result. </p><p>Of course, in order to believe this, one must either be extraordinarily stupid or extraordinarily ambitious. I believe Burgis falls into the latter category; he is what can be rightfully described as a &#8220;guru.&#8221; That is to say, someone who possesses a particular verbal and intellectual skill set lacking amongst almost all the Silicon Valley/GSF types whom the guru in question seeks out as patrons and has thus marketed themselves to this set as a kind of conduit for them to understand things they would normally find mystifying.</p><p>The Silicon Valley guru is actually a pretty well-worn trope at this point, with Thielworld itself having an entire roster of them (of which Burgis is but one of many).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!P5ov!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffafbabf7-5136-4f32-b79c-d817f92fc0fa_1280x854.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div 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class="image-caption">David Shing, better known as Shingy, AOL&#8217;s former official &#8220;Digital Prophet&#8221; is perhaps the most well known of Silicon Valley&#8217;s guru class. [Photo Credit: By Jarle Naustvik - David Shing (AOL), CC BY 2.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=40477507]</figcaption></figure></div><p>Thus, it is no surprise that Burgis is the man behind the ZO&#203; conference, as its stated aim of commencing a historic dialogue between the forces of &#8220;Athens (arts and philosophy), Jerusalem (faith and religion), and Silicon Valley (technology and venture)&#8221; would be absurdly hubristic and a bit silly coming from anyone outside of Silicon Valley (where such absurd claims are but par for the course).</p><p>Burgis founded the nonprofit behind the ZO&#203; conference, the Cluny Institute, which sounds quite old and prestigious until you realize it was only just created in 2024. Scroll through its <a href="https://www.cluny.org/events/">list of events</a> from the past few years, and you&#8217;ll see a lot of familiar Thielworld faces from the greater Thieloid ecosystem: Coleman Hughes, Tyler Cowen, Dasha Nekrasova, etc. In addition, you&#8217;ll see the usual topics, tech/identity stuff, and lots of Girard, of course. </p><p>All of these events went relatively smoothly; that was, of course, until March of this year when Cluny got its proverbial hand caught in the Antichrist cookie jar. </p><p>In March of 2026 Cluny cosponsored a segment of Peter Thiel&#8217;s notorious &#8216;Antichrist&#8217; lectures in Rome. Needless to say, many Catholics weren&#8217;t too happy about this, seeing as Thiel&#8217;s ideas about &#8216;the Antichrist&#8217; are equal parts crazy, evil, and, as Pope Leo&#8217;s AI advisor Father Paolo Benanti described it, heresy. Thus, the heat started to come down a bit on Cluny, beginning at its home base of CUA (Catholic University of America).</p><p>For those of you who don&#8217;t know, CUA isn&#8217;t merely another vaguely Catholic college; rather, it is a key conservative institution in Washington, D.C., and has deep ties to the conservative Catholic political world. If you live in D.C. and travel in these circles, odds are you&#8217;ve been to more than one event there; thus, it makes sense for someone employed as a kind of professional Catholic who is also extremely ambitious, like Burgis, to make it his home base, both for himself and for Cluny. </p><p>However, the university itself, upon being <a href="https://cuatower.com/2026/03/cua-denies-sponsoring-peter-thiels-controversial-antichrist-lectures/">pressured</a> about the event and Cluny&#8217;s sponsorship of it by its own newspaper (The Tower), ended up issuing a kind of disavowal of sorts regarding Cluny and a somewhat dishonest one at that.</p><p>When pressed by The Tower, CUA responded, stating that &#8220;The Catholic University of America is not sponsoring or hosting an event featuring Peter Thiel this month in Rome. The Cluny Project is an independent initiative incubated at the university.&#8221;</p><p>When pressed on the fact that Cluny&#8217;s website &#8220;goes on to direct potential donors to the Busch School&#8217;s advancement officer, and the website&#8217;s terms of service say questions should be directed to the university&#8217;s main phone number. The address given for mail-in donations is the University Advancement Division&#8217;s office in O&#8217;Connell Hall&#8230;&#8221; CUA again tried to distance itself from Cluny, stating, &#8220;Yes, Cluny is incubated at the Catholic University, which provides administrative and fundraising infrastructure to support its work. It operates as an academically independent initiative under the principles of academic freedom.&#8221;</p><p>It was all pretty bizarre. Neither Burgis nor his deputy at Cluny, Jordan Castro, could be reached for comment by The Tower.</p><p>So why was Cluny cosponsoring Thiel&#8217;s Anti-Christ lectures anyway? The answer brings us back to an examination of Burgis himself, who, it turns out, has deep and significant ties to Thiel. Ties, which, perhaps unsurprisingly, he has not exactly been fully transparent about.</p><h3>On Burgis&#8217;s Pro-Thiel &#8220;Squid Ink&#8221; Propaganda</h3><p>If there is one man who truly, deeply, and madly loves Peter Thiel, it is Luke Burgis. Burgis stated that &#8220;Thiel and I are both students of Stanford professor Ren&#233; Girard (which is how we met).&#8221; But of course, this is quite misleading, as Thiel was studying under Girard in the 1980s, while Burgis admits that he actually didn&#8217;t meet Thiel in person until 2019 (several years after Girard&#8217;s death) when he sat down to interview him for his book about Girard&#8217;s theories called <em>Wanting: The Power of Mimetic Desire in Everyday Life, </em>a book for which Thiel then provided an approving blurb.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/p/the-zoe-conference-and-peter-thiels?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/p/the-zoe-conference-and-peter-thiels?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><p>In the years since, Burgis has become something of a Thiel superfan, compiling a running compendium of every single public statement Thiel has made regarding mimetic theory entitled &#8220;<a href="https://read.lukeburgis.com/p/peter-thiel-on-rene-girard">Peter Thiel on Ren&#233; Girard,&#8221; and</a> then having Thiel appear and give a talk at his CUA inaugural Novitate Conference in 2023, an obvious early prototype for the ZO&#203; Conference, even including many of the same themes (&#8220;Athens, Jerusalem, and Silicon Valley,&#8221; etc.) and penning several interesting defenses of Thiel employing what I have previously described as the Girardian &#8220;squid ink&#8221; defense of him. Simply put, one of the reasons Thiel is undoubtedly drawn to Girardian theory is the philosophical/theological-sounding defense it provides him (which, in reality, is merely a cynical rhetorical device of sorts, not any kind of real &#8220;philosophy&#8221; as such) when dealing with critics.</p><p>The basic crux of this boils down to something like, &#8220;Your resentment and hatred of Thiel stem entirely from some kind of jealousy toward him, or rather, the resentment that is caused by the shame of a misguided mimesis you experience due to Thiel&#8217;s success in life, etc.&#8221; </p><p>Let&#8217;s take a look at Burgis using this type of thing in the wild in his 2021 Unherd piece defending Thiel entitled &#8220;The scapegoating of Peter Thiel&#8221; in which he attempted to &#8220;defend&#8221; Peter from Max Chafkin&#8217;s largely accurate portayal of him in his book <em>The Contrarian</em>:</p><blockquote><p>Peter Thiel&#8217;s Girardian moment came on 21st July 2016, the year after Girard died. Thiel took the stage at the Republican national convention in support of Donald Trump. He had fantasies, perhaps, that Trump might disrupt our sclerotic government. (Disruption came &#8212; but not in the way anyone, including Thiel, probably imagined.) He must have known what he was doing at the time, throwing his hat in the proverbial ring&#8212;a ring that was, in fact, an amphitheater filled with many hungry lions and with billions of spectators working themselves into a frenzy over the Trump association.</p><p>On that day, the mimetic forces began to converge against Thiel. There has been a non-stop barrage of stories painting him as an ever-more extreme and controversial figure ever since. The media can&#8217;t resist making him <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20211009211419/https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/09/20/peter-thiel-book-facebook-trump-jd-vance-blake-masters-josh-hawley-513121">a Trumpian totem</a>, digging up <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20211009211419/https://www.propublica.org/article/lord-of-the-roths-how-tech-mogul-peter-thiel-turned-a-retirement-account-for-the-middle-class-into-a-5-billion-dollar-tax-free-piggy-bank">Roth IRA</a> investments he made 20 years ago&#8212;a decision to place a risky bet that took advantage of our antiquated tax code. He is seen as the kind of dangerous figure that should be purged from our midst.</p></blockquote><p>And that&#8217;s about as good as it gets. It&#8217;s a remarkably intellectually dishonest piece and actively makes me dislike Burgis. One of its only real disputes with what the book says is taking one tiny story given to Chafkin by a source that was recalling an event that happened in 1988 and attempting to dissect it at length with Thiel to prove that a specific detail <em>may have</em> been wrongly remembered (no shit!) and attempting to use this particular incident (an anecdote about Thiel claiming he didn&#8217;t believe a particular traffic law was constitutional as a way of getting out of a ticket) to insinuate that the entire book must be like this. When in reality Chafkin&#8217;s &#8220;The Contrarian&#8221; is an excellent book on Thiel that has plenty of receipts. Receipts, it is telling Burgis doesn&#8217;t bother to try and actually dispute, instead playing this cheap Girardian game of obfuscating bullshit. </p><p>Now obviously Burgis was doing this for Thielpoints, so being intellectually honest wasn&#8217;t a main priority for him, but still, it&#8217;s hard to not be rubbed the wrong way when reading this kind of thing. </p><p>We can leave aside Burgis&#8217;s contentions that attempt to paint Thiel as some kind of well-meaning but misunderstood eccentric, a kind of billionaire Edward Scissorhands, as I doubt he would even try and make them these days given how much more we know about Thiel and his network now than we did in 2021 when the piece was written. </p><p>Instead, we can skip ahead to the heart of the matter: the use and the abuse of Rene Girard&#8217;s theories to defend Thiel.</p><p>As I have written previously, while I am sure on some level Thiel finds Girard&#8217;s theories genuinely compelling, it is also almost impossible to argue that a big part of the attraction Girard&#8217;s ideas have for him isn&#8217;t that they just happen to provide a highly useful rhetorical smokescreen for him (&#8220;squid ink&#8221; if you will). Simply put, Thiel can basically use Girard&#8217;s scapegoat theory to immediately accuse any and all of his philosophical/theological/and political foes of resentfully trying to scapegoat him. The great thing about this is that it is a kind of circular argument: How do we know Thiel is an innocent scapegoat? Because he&#8217;s being accused of something! Is what he&#8217;s being accused of true? No, because the resentful mob, driven by the shame of mimesis, has made him a scapegoat (and all scapegoats are innocent, thus Thiel is innocent), etc.</p><p>It&#8217;s easy to see the goofiness in this (or, at least, it should be). Of course, Girard&#8217;s actual theories are a bit more complex than this, but this is how the squid ink defense of Thiel works rhetorically (&#8220;You hate him because he&#8217;s beautiful!&#8221; etc.). The best part is it allows Thiel and/or his many apologists to never have to really deal with the substantive claims his critics make; it&#8217;s enough to merely accuse them of resentment-based scapegoating (based on, well, nothing) and then try to move on. </p><p>This is the primary benefit Thiel derives in a practical sense from promoting Girard&#8217;s work, and given Thiel&#8217;s interests, it&#8217;s no wonder why, as they run the gamut from traditional endeavors like his favorite Palantir, which is at the forefront of lab-created cutting-edge surveillance/murder technology (which has its hands in select &#8220;fittest&#8221; and America&#8217;s current wars, proxy wars, and ethnic cleansing campaigns) to the more genuinely unsettling and freakish biotech investments in companies like <a href="https://www.nationalreview.com/2025/04/eugenics-gets-a-modern-facelift-with-investment-from-peter-thiel/">Orchid</a> and <a href="https://techcrunch.com/2025/01/30/controversial-genetics-testing-startup-nucleus-genomics-raises-14m-series-a/">Nucleus Genomics</a>, entities that specialize in technology to screen lab-created embryos for desired traits and then let the &#8220;parents&#8221; in question select the &#8220;fittest&#8221; specimen to raise, a practice normally referred to as &#8220;eugenics.&#8221;</p><p>In addition, Thiel also <a href="https://techcrunch.com/2024/05/30/rhea-reaps-10m-more-led-by-thiel/">invests</a> in companies like Rhea Fertility, which focuses on setting up international surrogacy arrangements with the aim of skirting local laws. Surrogacy (i.e., the renting of wombs, frequently by wealthy gay men) is close to Thiel&#8217;s heart, as he and his legal husband, Matt Danzeisen (who, it should be noted, directly oversees many of these investments in his role as Head of Private Investments at Thiel Capital), have produced children he claims as his own via the process of surrogacy. </p><p>This is all remarkable stuff, and yet it is notable that Thiel&#8217;s many &#8220;Christian&#8221; superfans on the political right never, ever discuss this, and Burgis is obviously not an exception here. He will simply never talk about it, and it will certainly not be discussed at the ZO&#203; conference in spite of its pretensions of being a place for &#8220;Athens, Jerusalem, and Silicon Valley&#8221; to meet and have real discourse. You&#8217;d think this topic would be front and center of any and all such discussions, as it is a main dividing line between Silicon Valley (which in general is a leading and enthusiastic practitioner of both eugenics via genetic screening and surrogacy) and any and all forms of anything approaching actual Christianity, and yet it is literally never discussed in any of these forums.</p><p>This is worth pondering a bit; for instance, I&#8217;d bet my bottom dollar if confronted with a simple question about whether or not he condones the practice, Burgis would almost certainly not give a straight answer. The closest he would come would be (maybe) to pull out the classic &#8220;I&#8217;m personally against it,&#8221; aka &#8220;I wouldn&#8217;t do it myself, but it should be legal,&#8221; which is the same thing as supporting it in reality.</p><p>The conversation would almost certainly go the same way if the topic of, say, gay marriage came up. A topic that many of the conservative Christians attending the ZO&#203; conference presumably have strong opinions about, and yet I suspect this also won&#8217;t be discussed in spite of its obvious relevance (Thielworld, along with much of the Trump administration, is currently run by wealthy gay men who are &#8220;married&#8221; and have children via surrogacy).</p><p>This is particularly odd when you consider that this issue still animates much of their online discourse, particularly when they believe they can use it against perceived culture war enemies, like, say, Father James Martin. A fact that is quite interesting considering that unlike Thiel and the plethora of powerful Thiel allies staffing the current Trump administration, Martin himself has never technically questioned the Roman Catholic Church&#8217;s teachings on gay marriage in spite of pushing for pro-homosexual policies on the periphery. </p><p>In addition, and arguably much more importantly, James Martin, whatever one thinks of his stance on homosexuality, is actually a Christian. As in, he actually seems to believe in God and the Christian Gospel. The same simply cannot be said of Thiel, at least with any sort of intellectual honesty. For instance, it is almost certain Thiel could not unironically agree with the words of the Nicene Creed, and not only due to his obvious rejection of the &#8220;resurrection of the dead and the life of the world to come,&#8221; which for Thiel is obviously unsatisfying, but he also almost certainly doesn&#8217;t believe Jesus was literally the Christ, died, and literally rose again on the third day. </p><p>Rather, Thiel quite obviously views the death and resurrection of Christ purely as a <em>revelatory mechanism</em>, the moment collective violence and the scapegoat mechanism get unmasked and revealed, rather than as the event the Creed has always claimed that it is. </p><p>Yet Thiel is never confronted on any of this by these conservative Christian fans, especially the ones floating through his various patronage networks (such as everyone at First Things, for instance), while Martin is a constant target. A rather telling state of affairs. </p><h3>What the ZOE Conference is Really About</h3><p>In general, Peter is a paranoid guy. Some of his paranoias are justified; many aren&#8217;t. But regardless, he lives in fear. Primarily fear of the mob, or the government (the servant of the mob). He is afraid these entities may one day move to prevent him (out of mimetic resentment obviously) from engaging in the kind of activities he finds to be a worthwhile expression of his freedom and potential. </p><p>While Thiel has historically not been above working the traditional levers of Washington to influence Democratic Party leaders to do what he wants, overall he is extremely afraid of them. It is no secret that, for Thiel, the Democratic Party and what it represents (a theoretical threat to the power of capital to do whatever it wants unmolested) are the real enemy, and thus, he has positioned himself permanently on the political right. </p><p>The problem, of course, is that the American right is a strange beast full of internal contradictions. Essentially it is philosophically and ideologically incoherent by nature and exists primarily as a vehicle only for general &#8220;anti-leftism.&#8221; One of the main currents within this strange coalition is, famously, the Christian right, a force historically given to a variety of various moral crusades and a potential problem for Thiel&#8217;s agenda within the GOP long term (i.e., turning the party into a pro-tech, pro-surveillance, pro-transhumanist party). Thus, it behooves him to back individuals and institutions that can work to defang this potentiality long term. In my view, this is one of the main reasons Thiel spends so much time and energy trying to schmooze this sector of the American right. </p><p>More precisely, Thiel is interested in the Christian intellectual class in the United States. That is to say, his interest is in courting the exact type of people who could otherwise make coherent, articulate, and theologically informed arguments against the world he is trying to bring into being (what we call here, &#8216;<a href="https://mereorthodoxy.com/gay-space-fascism/">&#8220;Gay Space Fascism&#8221;</a>). This is what the ZO&#203; conference (and other events like it) are really about.</p><p>As the aforementioned Father Benanti observed in his seminal and brilliant dissection of Thiel and Thielism entitled<em> <a href="https://legrandcontinent.eu/fr/2026/03/14/thiel-heresie-benanti/">American heresy: Should Peter Thiel be burned at the stake?</a></em></p><blockquote><p>His vision, nourished both by Ren&#233; Girard&#8217;s anthropological pessimism on the violence of crowds and by the prophecy of the end of the nation-state formulated in the book <em>The Sovereign Individual</em> , which he prefaced. This led him to view technology not only as an instrument of profit, but as a tool for managing the decline of liberal democratic institutions.</p><p>If democracy is exposed to the irrational excesses of mimetic violence, then technology offers, from this perspective, an alternative: an order based on data control, algorithmic prediction, and <a href="https://legrandcontinent.eu/fr/2025/07/03/le-transhumanisme-selon-peter-thiel-lia-mars-et-la-geopolitique/">technocratic management of the masses</a> .</p><p>The ideology permeating this group&#8212;and Silicon Valley more broadly&#8212;has gradually evolved toward forms of post-humanism, particularly through currents within the TESCREAL movement (<em>Transhumanism, Extropianism, Singularitarianism, Cosmism, Rationalism, Effective Altruism, and Long-termism</em>). These philosophies, championed notably by Elon Musk, see technology as the instrument for transcending the biological and social limitations of humanity.</p></blockquote><p>This is what the ZO&#203; conference is actually promoting in reality, and we can see this clearly just by looking at the scheduled lineup.</p><p>On the same day of the conference, on the same stage and separated by only an hour, two things will happen. Bryan Johnson will deliver his keynote entitled &#8220;Don&#8217;t Die,&#8221; detailing his ongoing bizarre crusade to defeat aging and death through AI and the kind of demented self-experimentation that has previously involved transfusing his own blood plasma with his teenage son&#8217;s and, more recently, saw him claim to have created a clone of himself so that, <a href="https://x.com/bryan_johnson/status/2079672688034083030?s=20">in his words</a>, he could &#8220;become my own blood boy&#8221; and &#8220;grow organs for transplantation.&#8221;  </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5Gzf!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9e6b2a84-9804-45aa-9778-63fb237f011d_1202x1132.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Shortly after him, Fr. Mark Roosien, an Orthodox priest from St. Vladimir&#8217;s Seminary, will give a talk on the strange religious history of technological attempts to raise the dead. Perhaps Fr. Roosien intends his talk to serve as some kind of rebuke to the keynote an hour before it (one must give him the benefit of the doubt here, I think). It genuinely doesn&#8217;t matter though. Intent isn&#8217;t the significant factor for the participants here one way or another. </p><p>Choosing to share a program, a sponsor, and a stage with people like Johnson and the political and theological agenda he represents does the legitimizing work (which is the real point of the conference) regardless of what any particular participant may privately believe they are accomplishing by being there. And here we find the true picture of the entire conference in miniature: a real theological seriousness on the part of many via genuine Orthodox and Roman Catholic participants deployed as legitimizing cover for a project that treats the idea that &#8220;Technology is the Antidote to Suffering and Death&#8221; (the title of one of the actual events at the conference, btw) as some kind of meaningful live debate rather than the kind of claim that would have gotten you excommunicated for the vast majority of Christian history, regardless of confession.</p><p>The lineup is telling in this regard, and it&#8217;s worth taking a closer look at exactly what it is trying to accomplish here.</p><p>The conference opens with a Mass, celebrated by Fr. Aquinas Guilbeau, CUA&#8217;s own VP of Ministry and Mission. It closes with Fr. Harrison Ayre&#8217;s keynote on &#8220;the mystery of the human person.&#8221; In between, Fr. Luke Dysinger, a Benedictine monk and bioethics professor, gives a talk entitled &#8220;Physician, Heal Thyself&#8221;&#8212;a talk that, it would appear, is the kind of serious theological rejoinder to the Bryan Johnsons of the world that one would expect to hear from any kind of serious Christian. And that&#8217;s precisely the point I think: these aren&#8217;t fringe figures. They&#8217;re serious people and actual, respected clergy attempting to engage in serious dialogue whose very presence transforms what would otherwise be a Silicon Valley transhumanist freak show into something that can be described, however dishonestly, by its boosters as a place where Athens, Jerusalem, and Silicon Valley meet &#8220;in conversation.&#8221; </p><p>And the problem here is that Johnson isn&#8217;t alone in this lineup. Patrick Collison, Stripe&#8217;s CEO, will rant about &#8220;new aesthetics&#8221; for the AI age. Ruxandra Teslo, a geneticist, advocates for accelerating clinical trials, a cause that may sound innocent enough until you remember it&#8217;s the same regulatory shortcut that has underwritten the genetic-screening/embryo-selection industry Thiel is bankrolling through Nucleus and Orchid. </p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>The fertility panel deserves to be noteworthy, and not just for being one of the American Right&#8217;s frequent obsessions but also because it&#8217;s a moment the conference&#8217;s contradictions and dishonesty become a bit too obvious to miss. &#8220;Fertility Is Not Enough&#8221; puts Shadi Hamid, Catherine Pakaluk (a CUA economist and author of a book on large families), Ruxandra Teslo, and Clay Routledge together to discuss demographic collapse. A conversation that, if it were in any way honest or serious, would have to reckon with the fact that Thiel, the man whose network assembled this entire conference, is also a major investor in the embryo-selection and international surrogacy industries actively redefining what &#8220;having a family&#8221; even means. </p><p>And then there&#8217;s Toby Kurth, one of the more strange figures in Thielworld. Kurth is the lead pastor at Christ Church in San Francisco, and he&#8217;s publicly interviewed Thiel, on stage, specifically about Thiel&#8217;s own (alleged) Christian faith. He&#8217;s now booked at the ZO&#203; conference and will be speaking on a panel with Burgis himself.</p><p>It should be noted that Kurth interviewed Thiel as part of a series of events put on by ACTS 17. ACTS 17, which is essentially a Thieloid outreach program to the evangelical world, was founded by Michelle Stephens, whose husband, Trae Stephens, is the Founders Fund partner Thiel personally recruited to the firm in 2013 and who then went on to co-found Anduril, the Thieloid defense-tech company that was backed by Founders Fund from its inception. </p><p>What do Kurth and his church actually believe? Well, it&#8217;s hard to say; they are allegedly a creedal orthodox Reformed churches of some kind yet seem to have no problem in vouching for Thiel&#8217;s alleged Christian faith. Of course they never mention how exactly this jives with him being &#8220;married&#8221; to a man, having children via surrogacy, or being a key investor behind an entire industry based around eugenic screening, mass embryo destruction, and commercial surrogacy. </p><p>As a fun aside here is a video of Trae Stephens at an ACTS 17 event describing his work as an &#8220;arms dealer&#8221; as his Christian &#8220;vocation&#8221;:</p><div id="youtube2-W9VdB6mPo_0" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;W9VdB6mPo_0&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/W9VdB6mPo_0?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p>Do they think all of this is okay? Is our understanding of the Gospel simply expanding? Is &#8220;God still speaking&#8221;? Has our understanding of basic Christian morality deepened thanks to Thiel&#8217;s example? Are we living at the dawning of the age of Aquarius? Do they now agree with the notorious Thielworld capo? Jeff Giesea (who was instrumental in Thiel&#8217;s work in reaching out to the early white nationalist alt-right) in his description of Jesus as <a href="/__u/jeffgiesea.substack.com/p/the-madonna-and-child">&#8220;the divine surrogate child&#8221;?</a></p><p>Ultimately, this is what all of those attending the conference are buying into whether they intend it or not. To attend these events is to submit yourself to the greater Thielverse and the financial and social temptations therein. Temptations, which operate to exert social pressure on those who choose to indulge in them to not criticize Thiel&#8217;s projects, are objectively evil and irredeemable as they are, and this is precisely why they exist in the first place. </p><p>Christians who allow themselves to be sucked into Thiel&#8217;s various influence operations will suffer very much the same fate as liberal democracies who embrace his surveillance technology, as Benanti noted:</p><blockquote><p>Peter Thiel acts on two simultaneous levels, revealing the depth of his political heresy: on one hand, he finances the centrifugal forces that erode the nation-state; on the other, he arms the state to establish panoptic control.</p><p>When liberal democracies adopt its instruments, they are not just acquiring software: they are importing an ideology that views transparency as an obstacle and public debate as a luxury that has become unsustainable.</p><p>By accepting Thiel&#8217;s technology through <a href="https://legrandcontinent.eu/fr/2025/08/06/palantir-ontologie/">Palantir&#8217;s writing of reality</a> , institutions implicitly adopt his diagnosis: society is a mimetic mass incapable of self-governance, and the only alternative to the apocalypse is a technocratic order imposed by an elite of sovereigns.</p><p>In this vision, democracy understood as self-government of equal citizens is already dead &#8212; and all that remains, in the darkness of a <em>data center</em>, is the clinical management of its corpse.</p></blockquote><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/p/the-zoe-conference-and-peter-thiels?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" 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y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Sometimes, people deserve to get bullied.<br><br>And this is doubly true when discussing Thieloids (as we are wont to do on this stack). However, this isn&#8217;t always the case. Some are more worthy of condemnation and persecution than others, but some can also sometimes be surprisingly sympathetic figures. <br><br>When it comes to writer and influencer Mary Harrington, it would be understandable if an observer believed she fell firmly in the latter category. <br><br>In addition to being, at least in my view, generally a sympathetic figure, Harrington is interesting (and for our purposes, quite useful) as she is not really a dyed-in-the-wool &#8220;Gay Space Fascist&#8221; like, say, Curtis Yarvin, Malcom and Simone Collins, or Richard Hanania are. No, rather, she is more like a fellow traveler or GSF ally, someone who has decided that, whatever misgivings she may have about the vision of the actual true believers, she is more than willing to throw her lot in with them in pursuit of a greater good in the name, apparently, of some unstated greater good.<br><br>In many ways I am more interested in having a real discussion with people like Harrington than with actual doctrinaire Thieloids (who, for the most part, should simply be ridiculed and persecuted, imho). Part of the reason I say this is because Harrington is a frequent and insightful observer, critic, and writer and has used these talents to set herself up as a leading voice of the center-right international. <br><br>In addition to writing for a number of outlets, most prominently the British publication Unherd, she has also been involved in Yoram Hazony&#8217;s &#8216;National Conservative&#8217; project as well as allying herself, more generally, with the so-called New Right in particular in its fight against transgenderism and ultra-progressive wokeness. <br><br>One of Harrington&#8217;s more memorable coinages is that of the &#8220;meat lego,&#8221; a term she uses to describe the state of the human person under the philosophical assumptions of modern progressive ideology in which attributes (like biological sex), which used to be considered an immutable part of the human &#8220;self,&#8221; are now thought of merely as &#8220;meat legos&#8221; that can be arranged and rearranged at the behest of any one particular human will and recombined as said will sees fit. <br><br>To Harrington&#8217;s credit, she has, somewhat reluctantly, had the intellectual honesty to recognize that this impulse isn&#8217;t at all limited to the progressive left via transgenderism but also exists, most notably, on Thiel&#8217;s &#8220;Tech Right.&#8221; As she noted, in a perhaps not coincidentally paywalled Substack post entitled <em><a href="https://www.maryharrington.co.uk/p/the-abolition-of-woman">The Abolition of Women</a></em>:</p><blockquote><p>The Enhanced Games secured funding from big-name investors including Coinbase founder and &#8220;Network State&#8221; visionary Balaji Srinivasan, PayPal founder and progressive <em>b&#234;te noire</em> Peter Thiel, and biotech investor and &#8220;Next Human Agenda&#8221; advocate Christian Angermayer. When I interviewed Thiel in 2022, he made his views on human augmentation clear. Far from being incompatible with Christianity, he suggested, it&#8217;s practically a Christian obligation: &#8220;the Christian critique of transhumanism should be that it&#8217;s not radical enough, because it&#8217;s only seeking to transform our bodies and not our souls,&#8221; he <a href="https://unherd.com/2022/12/peter-thiel-on-the-dangers-of-progress-2/">said</a>&#8230;</p><p>When you consider the combined investment muscle of Thiel, Srinivasan and Angermeyer, it&#8217;s clear that we&#8217;re getting re-engineered whether we want to be or not. All that&#8217;s required for this project to make progress is to prise the legal and social framework free from older normative understandings of human nature and normal health. Or in other words: to normalise there being no human &#8220;normal&#8221;.</p></blockquote><p>Thus, as we can see, Harrington is very much aware of the true nature of Thiel&#8217;s project and how it conflicts with her own convictions. Still, Harrington very much exists within the New Right media ecosystem, one that has essentially been constructed by Thiel and his allies to advance his vision. </p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>This obvious contradiction was one of the things that prompted me to gently ding her about it in a Substack note quote tweet, which then led to the following interesting and, quite revealing, exchange:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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This is troubling to me, not because it&#8217;s true, but rather because it is simply very boring. At this point the Thiel network is pretty extensively documented, and it&#8217;s honestly tedious to have to go back over the obvious each and every time you want to discuss it. 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I noted in my response, I prefer just to have the conversation honestly. And I imagine many Thieloids would as well. Hence why, at least on a certain level, I have a strange kind of respect for people like <span class="mention-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Based Camp | Simone &amp; Malcolm&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:320495,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff87ac93a-5b29-43bc-b597-6c69db5439bb_1024x1015.jpeg&quot;,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;6cc678db-c567-42dc-99e1-8363eed1488d&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span>, insane and actively dangerous as they are, because they are at least half-honest about what they are advocating for. </p><p>The most interesting part of the whole exchange, imo, then occurred in response to this note, between Mary Harrington and another commentator ( <span class="mention-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Jake Meador&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:538686,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6bf0cbf5-1a39-4031-ad4e-dcfeb696a742_220x350.jpeg&quot;,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;c6f20cf2-5ecd-4c23-b96a-71ed495260b4&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span> ) :</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pBHY!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feda6c8df-e96e-4866-a31e-1be343a423eb_1238x820.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pBHY!, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/w_424, 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I the only one who finds Harrington&#8217;s argument a bit strange here? Why does she seem to be afraid to speak publicly about this stuff? As Meador notes, you would think it&#8217;d be easy for the woman who has made a living in part on condemning &#8220;meat lego gnosticism&#8221; to call out Thiel&#8217;s explicitly demented brand of transhumanism. Of course, if I didn&#8217;t know any better, I&#8217;d say that Harrington is extremely hesitant to discuss this publicly because, while she herself may have misgivings about Thiel&#8217;s project, she knows that both the political movement she has aligned herself with and the media ecosystem in which she inhabits are both essentially bought and paid for by Thiel himself. </p><p>And if there is one unwritten rule of the Thielverse, it&#8217;s that you don&#8217;t criticize Peter directly. Misgivings and polite disagreement on technical points of theology or policy are of course allowed, but no actual substantive critiques of Thiel himself and his various projects are. Of course, one could do so if one really wanted to, but there would be consequences. The first warning for such an offense would be a shoulder tap, in the form of a concerned DM from a &#8216;friend.&#8217; If this didn&#8217;t suffice, well, let&#8217;s just say things could get ugly.</p><p>This is why Harrington has gone to such great pains to keep her public misgivings with the Thielverse as light and flaccid as possible, and even most of those she has decided to express, she has published only behind the safety of her Substack&#8217;s paywall. </p><p>But alas, while I would be extremely interested to hear Mary Harrington&#8217;s actual, unfiltered thoughts on the matter, I suspect I&#8217;m not going to. In addition to the aforementioned reasons, I also am fully aware of my reputation (not all of which is unwarranted, it must be admitted) amongst Harrington&#8217;s extended tribe and realize that it likely doesn&#8217;t help matters in this regard.</p><p>However, this being said, I still want to engage with some of what I believe would be Harrington&#8217;s justification for her relationship to the Thielverse. So, in lieu of an actual response from the woman herself (which I don&#8217;t believe will be forthcoming), I&#8217;ve decided to do a little steelmanning of what I believe to be her (and many others&#8217;) position. Admittedly this is going to be a bit of an approximation based upon Harrington&#8217;s writings as well as various private conversations I&#8217;ve had with Thieloids and Thieloid fellow travelers over the years, but I do believe it to be a quite accurate and fair assessment of what I believe their position is.</p><p>So here we are. As they say, &#8220;If you want something done right, do it yourself.&#8221; Thus, I will attempt to give the best case for those who consider themselves Thieloid fellow travelers (which is distinct from making an argument based upon the &#8216;tenets&#8217; of actual Thieloids, fwiw), essentially what I believe Mary Harrington wants to argue for but can&#8217;t. This is a composite which is based upon Mary&#8217;s own writings in addition to my own private conversations with GSFers over the past decade (which, alas, are legion). And yes, I realize this is presumptuous on a certain level, but oh well.</p><h3><strong>The Case for the Thiel Alliance</strong></h3><p>The argument for allying with the Thielverse for essentially any faction of what could be considered the modern &#8216;Right&#8217; is pretty straightforward: join or die. </p><p>You are surrounded on all sides by a high/low coalition that is hell bent on destroying your way of life. As the old Sam Hyde bit goes, these people (left-wing activists, college professors, woke bureaucrats, violent minority youths, and the entirety of the Democratic Party and the EU) &#8220;want you broke, dead, and your kids raped and brainwashed, and <em>they think it&#8217;s funny.&#8221;</em></p><p>In addition to waging war on your culture, family, and religion, they are also destroying your society by importing millions more pliable and less demanding foreigners to replace the native-born population. </p><p>Thus, while the Thielverse may not be &#8220;perfect,&#8221; it is inherently a more desirable ally than anything to the left of center, all of which seek to destroy and ruin any and all individuals who aren&#8217;t either true believers or, at the very least, allow themselves to be completely ruled over and dictated to by true believers. After all, elites (unless you subscribe to some kind of naive anarchism) are more or less inevitable in all societies. Some people are on top, some people are on bottom, most are somewhere in between, and that&#8217;s life. The only question that remains is who gets to be on top. Who would you rather rule you? Right now, autistic tech freaks and woke progressive transgender jihadists are the only real options on offer. One group you may find off-putting and may have proclivities and beliefs you might not understand, but the other wants to literally wipe you and your family out completely; in this sense, the choice is simple.</p><p>And yes, those proclivities will be alienating to those who still believe in and practice traditional and/or conventional morality. But that, again, is merely another hard fact of life. The elite aren&#8217;t like you, to put it perhaps a bit too bluntly: they are better than you. They don&#8217;t need the mental crutches and conceptual copes you do to get through life and remain psychically intact. They don&#8217;t need a constricting belief in a conventional deity or strict heterosexual monogamous norms because they, unlike you, have taste, discretion, and the aristocratic ability to distinguish the &#8220;good&#8221; from the &#8220;bad.&#8221; Thus, they can engage in many of the vices of the very lowest rung of society (unless their name is Hunter Biden, that is) but without the negative externalities that accompany said behaviors. This may not seem fair, but it is just, in the same way that inequality may not be fair but is just. They are elves, and you are a hobbit, just as nature&#8217;s god intended it, and in this sense it is best to not kick against the pricks.</p><p>As far as concerns about genetic screening and surrogacy go, it&#8217;s understandable that they may make you uncomfortable. Hobbits, after all, aren&#8217;t known for their openness to new ideas. And here&#8217;s the thing, if you don&#8217;t like it, you don&#8217;t have to do it! You can stay in Hobbitton with your trad wife/husband and raise your 8 kids (all of whom you had via homebirth, are unvaxxed, and live almost exclusively on the raw milk they drink straight from the udder of your herd of grass-fed dairy cows) on the farm you live on in rural Pennsylvania (or an equivalent) without being molested or harassed by your elf overlords. In addition, and most importantly, you&#8217;ll also be completely protected from the progressive priest caste (who want to trans your kids) and their hordes of underclass minority criminals (who want to rape your spouse and steal your stuff).</p><p>You will be protected from these forces because the government is now essentially a one-party state headed by a Thiel-supervised leader (like a certain former senator from Ohio, perhaps). This new leader will run the new United States as a kind of super corporation, with a significant amount of indispensable assistance from Palantir. The company, which not only now controls the infrastructure for America&#8217;s future wars abroad (which, to be completely honest, will be quite numerous, the Global South isn&#8217;t going to depopulate itself after all!) but also its domestic infrastructure at home. Everything will be optimized via artificial intelligence to be as efficient as possible. No more fraud, waste, and abuse! No more overpaid bureaucrats who do nothing but make your life more complicated! No more long waits at the DMV or the post office! What&#8217;s not to like?</p><p>There may now be cameras everywhere that record almost all public spaces (and many private ones as well) and are now utilized every day by the new federal police force to locate any and all anti-social types and quickly whisk them off to new, El Salvador-style correctional facilities. However, the streets are now safe. I mean really, really safe. As in, a young drunk woman can wander alone at three AM through the most dangerous part of town and not be hassled in the slightest; she is safe. There are no more homeless encampments or panhandlers, no more porch pirates, and car jackers thieves running amok. San Francisco and Manhattan are now as safe as Tokyo, and so are Oakland and the Bronx.</p><p>Sounds nice, doesn&#8217;t it? The price, merely a bit of a liberty. And let&#8217;s be honest, you probably weren&#8217;t using it anyway. </p><p>As far as participating in the greater Thiel media ecosystem goes, as Harrington gestures at, what exactly is the alternative? The libs not only want to censor your speech; they want to completely ruin your life if you don&#8217;t publicly adhere to &#8216;woke&#8217; ideology. I guess one could struggle to go independent in the name of &#8216;purity,&#8217; but is this type of self-righteous grandstanding really worth it? Especially when you could reach a much wider audience working within the Thiel network. You could work from within, become a team player, and actually have your opinion heard by people that matter. In this sense you&#8217;d be making a much larger contribution to your &#8216;cause&#8217; (whatever exactly that is) than choosing the path of &#8216;banal contrarianism.&#8217; </p><p>Think about it, you could be invited to appear on a whole swath of podcasts and forums who would all be eager to hear your ideas. Ideas that may even one day make it out of social media and into the halls of power&#8212;if they are heard by the &#8216;right people,&#8217; who knows, they might, if you are a very, very good boy, even make it all the way to the Vance White House! You could make history! Or you could choose to be an embittered loser who is obviously merely expressing their resentment against those more successful and well-adjusted than they are. The choice is yours!</p><h3>The Case Against the Thiel Alliance</h3><p>The above is a condensed version of common Thiel-apologia you will hear spouted by both orthodox Thieloids and their fellow travelers and allies of various stripes. This is more or less the long and short of it. Of course, there are other arguments, and if anyone wants to make them, feel free to do so in the comments or wherever if you feel so moved. </p><p>That being said, these arguments are all pretty bad for the most part and tend to be reliant on a few particular rotten beams to prop them up, which, after only a little bit of pressure in the right places, tend to fall apart entirely. </p><p>The most important narrative beam here is almost certainly the one about the imperative to support the Thiel coalition as a bulwark against the Left&#8217;s ever-present kill, rape, and trans squads, which even as I type this are currently prowling the streets looking for new victims. </p><p>Of course, there is a grain of truth embedded here, which we need to discuss and discuss honestly without trying to handwave it away. </p><p>It is, in fact, true that in political life one must sometimes make compromises and alliances with people and/or factions one disagrees with and that sometimes these factions can be quite distasteful. There is nothing wrong with acknowledging this truth. Personally, under certain circumstances, there are a whole host of distasteful factions I would be more than willing to make a temporary alliance with in order to fight off a greater evil. </p><p>For instance, if a massive meteor were headed toward earth and the only way to stop it from destroying all life on this planet was to board a spaceship that, for unknown reasons, could only be crewed and run by an evil cabal of pedophile members of ISIS in order to deliver a nuclear bomb to the surface and save the world, I would in fact do it. However, this would not mean we suddenly became best friends; it would only mean that for the duration of the mission in question, I would cease active hostile actions against them and cooperate to the extent required by circumstance in order to complete this goal, and once the goal was achieved, I would, like any decent person, immediately pursue actions conducive to their full liquidation. </p><p>And that&#8217;s the rub. While making a transaction and time-limited pact with another faction is reasonable in American politics, due to the nature of the two-party system, this rarely happens, with this lack of genuine transactionalism being a particularly acute issue within the contemporary GOP itself, in which various disparate factions are welded together to create a kind of chimera. While it has become common over the past decade to denounce the &#8216;fusionism&#8217; of old, those involved have gone forward to simply attempt to create a new kind of fusionism, one even more moronic and incoherent than the old one. </p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>In this sense most European-style parliamentary systems are more functional, as they allow their members to maintain narrow political identities within smaller parties while also joining other parties to form ruling coalitions, which are temporary in nature and can be easily dissolved. The lack of this kind of system in the United States creates pressure to create unnatural syntheses of factions and ideas that end up almost always benefiting a small group of stakeholders while leaving the vast majority of party members out in the cold with, at best, a smattering of meaningless symbolic &#8216;victories.&#8217; </p><p>We saw this under the old GOP system, and we are seeing it once again under the new Trump/Thiel synthesis, with Trump&#8217;s family and cronies along with his Silicon Valley allies like Thiel reaping almost the entirety of the spoils in his second term while the groups that actually propelled him to electoral victory are not merely &#8216;getting nothing&#8217; but in many cases actually having their agendas actively undermined. Meanwhile, they are cajoled into continuing their support via bad-faith fearmongering about the ever-present threat presented by the libs. </p><h3>The Fallacy of the &#8216;Libtard Emergency&#8217; </h3><p>It should be noted that all fear of &#8216;the libs&#8217; is not entirely irrational, and at certain points in the recent past, they have been a genuine threat. For instance, in 2016 supporting Trump was an entirely rational thing for anyone not supportive of total liberal dominance to do; at the time, the libs were actually a genuine threat to pretty much everyone due to their end-of-history totalitarian fantasies of unironic world domination, which manifested itself both in domestic &#8216;wokism&#8217; and the now-classic Hillary Clinton/Victoria Nuland brand of pantsuit Trotskyism. The former was actually always dependent on the latter, as the illusion of historical inevitability against the forces of &#8216;backwards&#8217; anti-liberalism (read: everyone who is not a progressive) abroad was much of what helped to propel the various &#8216;woke&#8217; pogroms at home. We can see this in the former libtard obsession with trying to link Trump and his supporters to Putler (the ultimate symbol of the hateful &#8216;white&#8217; Christian European past in the libtard mind) even when the actual links were never really there.</p><p>However, essentially everyone understands that &#8216;woke,&#8217; whatever it really was, is largely over now. This has as much to do with America&#8217;s disastrous loss to Iran and Israel&#8217;s descent into actual fascism and the mass murder of children in Gaza, Lebanon, and Iran as it does to their somewhat inexplicable second loss to Trump in 2024. The future is no longer theirs, and they know it. Their wider project, whether or not they are ready to admit it to themselves or not, is over. </p><p>This is part of what makes the Thieloids&#8217; fear-mongering over the libs so disingenuous and pathetic; the libs obviously simply do not present the threat they once did. In some ways it would be nice if they actually did, for then a Democratic victory in 2028 might actually present them with the possibility of being held to account for their actions; instead, the next Democratic administration will likely simply be feckless and too unsure of itself to actually seek the type of retribution against the Thieloids that a sense of basic justice requires.</p><p>The emergency, such as it was, is over. But for the Thieloids the &#8216;emergency&#8217; will never actually be over until they have fully taken power and removed all obstacles to their permanent rule. This is the danger of buying into these kinds of dishonest framings of the situation; they are always short on key details. If you ever feel tempted by this species of Thieloid bullshit, merely ask your interlocutor the following questions:</p><ol><li><p>Is there <em>really</em> an &#8220;emergency&#8221; right now?</p></li><li><p>If so, when is the &#8220;emergency&#8221; actually over? Are there any objective metrics by which this can be measured, or will it merely be a game of constantly shifting goalposts until you achieve complete control?</p></li><li><p>What guarantees do I have that, once you achieve complete control, you, being the force in the coalition that has by far the most influence and resources, would not simply exterminate or subjugate your former coalition partners? Your inherent good will?</p></li></ol><p>The fact that you will simply never be able to get through this simple series of three questions with a Thieloid without being openly lied to tells you everything you need to know about the actual situation.</p><p>In addition, I urge you to meditate a bit on question three here. Do you really think that once the Thieloids have finally vanquished the libs they will simply continue to be benevolent and let you live unmolested on a little savage reservation somewhere while they go about the business of ruling the world? I mean maybe, for a little while, eventually, one way or another, they will come for you and your family. In addition your descendents will be inheriting an actual hell world, are you really okay with that?</p><h3>The House Always Wins</h3><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sIDJ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9589c7b9-616c-43ce-b388-d92e46d0b306_1936x1096.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sIDJ!, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/w_424, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9589c7b9-616c-43ce-b388-d92e46d0b306_1936x1096.png 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sIDJ!, 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last point that&#8217;s worth making here, I think, is to push back against the conceit often deployed by Thiel&#8217;s de facto media allies, like Harrington, especially those who tend to exist within his various media/think tank apparatuses; as far as Thiel goes, it&#8217;s better to cut with the grain than against it. The idea, which I laid out in the previous section, is that at least by working with Thiel you can get some things done and champion your beliefs in an incremental but perhaps significant way within the broader Thielworld coalition vs. trying to make a run on the outside and in the process accomplish little but put on various displays of public sanctimony and insincere self-righteous purity. </p><p>On the surface this is, at least rhetorically, their most potent weapon, as the framing allows them to be cast as the level-headed voices of experience and reason while those opposed to serving Thiel become a bunch of obviously petulant Holden Caulfields. Of course this is, once again, pure bullshit, and they know it. </p><p>When one takes the King&#8217;s money, one plays the King&#8217;s tune. If there is truly any kind of iron law of power, it is this one. Unlike, say, some rich, aging eccentric grandma, Thiel is extremely engaged in what he funds and what he doesn&#8217;t. He is also very careful and disciplined in his investing, and it is all very purposeful. If he is giving you or the organization that employs you money (either directly or through one of his cutouts), it is because he believes doing so advances his agenda in one way or another. Whether this is through what you are saying or perhaps what you now aren&#8217;t saying (like our friend Mary&#8217;s reluctance to publicly criticize him) doesn&#8217;t really matter; what matters is that you are playing along and, in the process, advancing his agenda. </p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/p/steel-manning-mary-harrington-and?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/p/steel-manning-mary-harrington-and?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><p>And unless you are supportive of this agenda, you should be deeply troubled by this, as that is now what you are actively advancing when you decide to play in his sandbox. </p><p>And seeing as the agenda in question is an ideology that could be accurately described, both in theory and practice, as a kind of transhumanist techno-Satanism the stakes couldn&#8217;t be higher, both for society and for your own soul. </p><p>And the soul is something we are told repeatedly to never sell, even for the whole world, let alone the rancid scraps that fall from the table of an Antichrist.</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[On the Series Finale of the Trump Show and the Last Boomer War]]></title><description><![CDATA[Don't Cry Because it's Joever...]]></description><link>https://postscript1794.substack.com/p/on-the-series-finale-of-the-trump</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://postscript1794.substack.com/p/on-the-series-finale-of-the-trump</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan Cioran]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2026 20:48:27 GMT</pubDate><enclosure 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y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Well, here we are, almost exactly ten years distant from the beginning of everything (more like 11 really if you believe the escalator was the real start). Was it everything you hoped it would be? Did it turn out like you thought? Are you the same person you were at the start? Do you have&#8230; regrets?</p><p>I do. But it doesn&#8217;t matter much now. Brute events have occurred that can never be undone. You must learn to make peace with this fact. </p><p>On the one hand, the entire Trump drama was a tragedy (or a kind of black comedy). It would be easy to write a &#8216;Trump as King Lear&#8217; take or something approximating it (many people already have tried). </p><p>But deep down, it rings quite false, as to categorize anything as a genuine &#8216;tragedy&#8217; implies a conflict between two virtues along with the sense that things &#8216;didn&#8217;t have to be this way.&#8217; Of course, this entire sordid affair involved absolutely no virtues whatsoever; in addition, on a certain level, things had to be this way. There was, in fact, no other outcome; this was always going to happen.</p><p>It is no longer in dispute that the hand of providence was at work in Donald Trump&#8217;s rise and improbable political &#8216;triumph.&#8217; From his unbelievable rise through the primary debates to Pussy Gate to Russiagate and his first impeachment through January 6th and his second impeachment and his very close encounter with a 5.56 mm round in Butler, Pennsylvania. Trump has been the beneficiary of an improbable and almost inexplicable run of good luck.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>Naturally, this has caused many, especially Trump&#8217;s core dispensationalist/prosperity gospel evangelical supporters, to view him as a kind of divinely ordained messiah figure whom God had chosen to &#8216;save America.&#8217; Of course, there are many assumptions contained in such conjectures; the most underdiscussed one, however, is not so much that God has chosen Trump to serve his purposes, but that those &#8216;purposes&#8217; involve &#8216;saving America&#8217; (making it great again) and not, say, &#8216;punishing&#8217; it.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wNH1!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc627ff69-685d-4236-a5f4-b1ec47da3cfe_1198x420.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wNH1!, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/w_424, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc627ff69-685d-4236-a5f4-b1ec47da3cfe_1198x420.png 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wNH1!, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/w_848, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/f_webp, 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king. </p><p>He is America, the condensed symbol. And, in this sense, he is very obviously a curse and judgment on the nation whose sins he embodies so well.</p><p>This is the <em>real</em> story of Trump, the conclusion to the grand narrative arc we&#8217;ve all been following through what has frequently felt like ten seasons of a prestige television show. </p><p>But it is only at the end that we can understand the beginning. Only once we have watched the series finale and seen the final, shattering twist ending do all the other seasons finally <em>make sense, </em>even if the meaning of all of the past storylines and subplots have now been irrevocably transfigured in the process.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fziI!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb804aedf-edc6-48e0-aa4c-1560cd67ab6a_1564x1092.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fziI!, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/w_424, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/q_auto:good, 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class="image-caption">&#8220;Folks, the mares eat oats. The does eat oats. They&#8217;ve always done this. But the lamb, and I love lambs, they&#8217;re incredible animals, very innocent, it eats the ivy. And ivy, you know what ivy does. It grows. Slowly. Over everything. Over the walls.  Over the doors. And the people inside... they don&#8217;t even notice. They think everything is fine.&#8221; </figcaption></figure></div><p>Trump was the villain all along. In this sense, the libs were right even if it was for the wrong reasons. He was a villain, but in an even deeper sense than they understood. Trump was far more than merely the two-bit con man and general scumbag he appeared to be to many liberals in the beginning. Of course, he was those things, but he was also far more. As <span class="mention-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Morgoth&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:73169035,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F40b157ce-2907-4827-ae9a-5b1f9ca87215_400x400.png&quot;,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;b6e900c5-0ad0-4d63-820f-7f7bccce6b3d&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span> &#8217;s Review noted (in an <a href="https://www.morgothsreview.com/p/series-finale">excellent reflection</a> fwiw): </p><blockquote><p>&#8220;It is the story of a supreme narcissist who came to believe that he could flout the laws of nature and physical constraints through sheer force of personality, like a wizard or an illusionist, conjuring memetic spells to hypnotize his legions of followers.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>Trump was not just any illusionist either. He was not merely a very charismatic, self-taught magician who just happened to get extremely lucky. No, Trump&#8217;s powers, on a very real level (in both the spiritual and literal senses), were granted to him, as was shown definitively by the incredible revelations of the ever-unfolding Epstein affair, by some kind of pact with foul and dark forces far beyond the comprehension of most. Like Thiel, Trump tried to make an ally of the great snake that lies ever half-awake at the bottom of the pit of the world, curled in folds of himself until he finally awakens in hunger (many such cases!).</p><p>And here we find yet another way in which Trump embodies all the sickness and grotesqueries of modern America. But even more than this, there may be deeper secrets still for us here.</p><p>One has to admit that the series finale has lined up perfectly as the capstone and ultimate final extinguishment of multiple eras simultaneously: the Fukuyamist triumphalism of the post-Cold War &#8216;long 90s&#8217; as well as the post-war era more broadly. In addition, it was obviously not lost on the writers that Trump will oversee America&#8217;s 250th birth celebration this July 4th, an inauspicious date to say the least, given the circumstances. More so, while Trump had an uncanny knack for exploiting social media through his famous Twitter account, he himself was completely a product of the age of television, hence why it is so fitting that he will be the last boomer president, fighting the last boomer war, in the last boomer nation.</p><h3>The Best Laid Plans of Mice and Thieloids</h3><p>But where does that leave the Thieloids (the primary subject of this Substack)? To be blunt, they appear to be completely and utterly <em>fucked, </em>at least for the foreseeable future. </p><p>Their entire elaborate plan, which relied primarily on Vance cruising to victory after a relatively successful Trump term, is now in tatters. While it goes without saying that, at least in theory, things can change quickly in politics, there is no realistic way to come back from this in the near term (and possibly in the long term as well). </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qQEK!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F203f796b-2535-48db-ac31-83b0167a3e10_1190x1016.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qQEK!, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/w_424, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/q_auto:good, 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y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Trump&#8217;s doomed boomer crusade (even if it somehow ended tomorrow) will have far-reaching impacts, perhaps the most of any war since 1945. In addition to likely ending the petrodollar system decades sooner than otherwise would have happened, it will also end the American empire on a psychic level (with so much of the consumerist capeshit the post-Cold War American identity was built upon no longer being viable). The American Empire long ago stopped pretending its way of life was really that much better than anyone else&#8217;s and simply transitioned to claiming it was inevitable due to its superior application of organized violence, but after Iran even this claim no longer looks particularly credible.</p><p>Which is a major crisis for the Thieloids, even more so than the likely irreversible damage that has been done to their most valuable political asset, JD Vance. The entire &#8216;Gay Space Fascist&#8217; plan was using Palantir and related defense companies to become the new American deep state and then using this influence to rejuvenate America&#8217;s &#8216;decadent&#8217; society via an invigorating war (likely with China), which would be used to reindustrialize the United States (in addition to making people like Thiel and Musk unfathomably wealthy); this is all in shambles now. </p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>The hilarious part is that almost all of this was due to their refusal to see the danger posed by their own coalition allies: the Israeli government, whose own demented goals turned out to be far from compatible with Thiel&#8217;s own. Of course, the Thieloids weren&#8217;t particularly shy about supporting Israel&#8217;s war against Iran, but this was on the unspoken condition that they could, you know, actually win it. Hence, we have seen such desperate wishcasting from Thiel&#8217;s influencer class about the war; they know if this fails spectacularly (and it <em>has</em> failed spectacularly), their project is effectively over, possibly for good.</p><p>I don&#8217;t know the future (no one does); nevertheless, one must make attempts at modeling the future as best as one can. There are multiple potential outcomes for how this plays out for the Thielverse, but essentially all of them are major setbacks for the project of GSF. This, in itself, is an extraordinarily good thing and worth celebrating. </p><p>Vance, being a coward and weakling who believes in nothing, will obviously wait and see how things turn out. However, even at this early stage there are already rumors he is leaning towards not even bothering to run in 2028 and instead hoping for a kind of miraculously Nixon comeback later on that will enable him to run in 2032 or 2036 instead. This is honestly probably his best move at this point; it is also unlikely it will work. If he really wanted to lean into this strategy, he should just resign in the next few weeks and then pivot to try and make himself the face of the &#8216;based&#8217; opposition to the war. This would involve serious risk, however, as it would make him a major target for Trump, who would do everything in his power to destroy the man he would undoubtedly and, not without some justification, view as a jealous, opportunistic traitor. </p><p>Then again, staying in his current role as vice president is just as risky (just in the opposite way), as he is then tied to a sinking ship for the next three years and forced to toe the administration&#8217;s line, however insane and disconnected from reality it becomes.</p><p>Even if Trump were to suddenly pass on to that great Mar-A-Lago in the sky, it is unlikely that it would benefit Vance very much, as he would be merely left holding the bag without any real political capital or opportunity to fix any of the various disasters Trump left for him. </p><p>All this is to say that, barring a combination of improbable luck and world-historic Democrat incompetence (the latter always a possibility, it must be said), there is no way out for them. </p><p>Still, in the medium to long term, they will try to reconstitute themselves as much as possible. Seeing as, at least so far, the Democratic Party has no real solutions to the problems of &#8216;late America&#8217; (tbf no one really does), it is not unlikely that the American populace could once again revolt in 2032 or 2036 purely out of dissatisfaction with liberal governance (in the same way they will revolt in 2026 and 2028 against Trump). Thus, they are still incredibly dangerous in the long term, especially considering the amount of money and influence Thielworld will still possess, even if its reputation is somewhat diminished by association with the second Trump administration.</p><p>Hence the importance of making the most of the next few years of a damaged and discredited Trump administration followed by, if we are lucky, some kind of liberal resurgence at the presidential level. The focus, for anyone with a soul, will have to be a focus on waging a long-term and methodical campaign against the Thiel network with the goal of damaging and discrediting it via any and all means available in order to prevent its potential reconstitution in service of a new power grab.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/p/on-the-series-finale-of-the-trump?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/p/on-the-series-finale-of-the-trump?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><p>Of course, only time will tell if this quest is successful or if America still has further to fall and, as it spirals downward, seeks the services of yet another anti-Christ. Personally, I remain cautiously optimistic, as the preeminent boomer movie star told us in the preeminent boomer action flick: &#8220;&#8216;If it bleeds, we can kill it.&#8221;</p><p>On the other hand, in my more pessimistic moments, I am reminded of Burrough&#8217;s assessment: <em>&#8220;America is not a young land: it is old and dirty and evil.</em> <strong>Before the settlers, before the Indians...the evil was there...waiting.</strong>&#8221; </p><p>It is a conclusion recent events have made it increasingly hard to argue with.</p><p></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[This is JD Vance's War; Don't Let Him Forget it]]></title><description><![CDATA[Right-wing influencers are Trying to Sell Vance as the Voice of 'Restraint'; Don't Believe Them.]]></description><link>https://postscript1794.substack.com/p/this-is-jd-vances-war-dont-let-him</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://postscript1794.substack.com/p/this-is-jd-vances-war-dont-let-him</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan Cioran]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2026 06:02:50 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-91v!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbf68a10d-ec8d-4ae8-87fe-02e1a48083b5_2036x1132.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-91v!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbf68a10d-ec8d-4ae8-87fe-02e1a48083b5_2036x1132.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-91v!, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/w_424, 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There was a sense, even back in 2016, that Trump was a man of destiny. That he was destined to do something very important. The feeling only increased after the 2024 campaign when a bullet barely missed his head, perhaps by only centimeters. Surely, the hand of providence was at play here somehow.</p><p>At the time I too suspected Trump was touched by something special, that some unknown force was preserving him to carry out a divine mission that would forever alter the trajectory of the United States and the world it had created. </p><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;06b9bcd4-eb7e-4be5-9f48-b1f7cc58a573&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><p>Trump appears now, finally, to be fulfilling that destiny. </p><p>Thus far, the war is a disaster. The only question that remains now is how big of a disaster it will be. A bit over a year ago I wrote a piece entitled <a href="/__u/substack.com/@jonathancioran/p-156569561">&#8220;Why the Libs Can&#8217;t Save You From What&#8217;s Coming.&#8221;</a> I still believe the libs can&#8217;t save you and that the technological and societal changes we are currently experiencing have a logic of their own that will defy pretty much any policy solutions currently on offer. Still, my initial observation and prediction, written in the wake of the GOP&#8217;s victory in 2024 and the subsequent early heady days of the Trump administration, were based on the premise that the GOP under Trump 2 would have a semblance of very basic strategy and competence and that they would, as I said at the time, merely &#8216;run the ball&#8217; down the middle governance-wise, ensuring a series of easy wins to set up Vance (and thus the ultimate victory of Thiel himself) in 2028. All of that is now in tatters, and, in spite of the obvious horror and evil involved, there is a darkly comedic element to the entire sad charade.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>It was in tatters before the war, and it seems likely far beyond any kind of salvage now. The Trump administration will go down as one of the most comically corrupt and loathed administrations in the last one hundred years of American history, and one that potentially may have inadvertently, and through its own sheer buffoonery, ensured the end of the American empire as we know it (as a treat).</p><p>That being said, they are still dangerous; already damage control is being attempted, with the usual pathetic copeslop being trotted out as emergency boob bait rations as the doom spiral continues to swirl.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EZkj!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fefb886dc-c61e-4959-81e5-9df4364b81d7_1180x1352.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EZkj!, 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while it doesn&#8217;t take too much to satisfy the rank and file MAGA cultists, at least the hardcore element (everyone else is long gone at this point), it is the more sophisticated boob bait that we must beware of and that needs to be actively confronted wherever and whenever it pops up.</p><p>The &#8216;Good Tsar, Bad Boyars&#8217; line is as old as time and, of course, is used extensively by Trump&#8217;s boosters. It&#8217;s always somebody else&#8217;s fault; &#8220;He&#8217;s just getting bad advice is all; we just need to get rid of X and Y apparatchiks and everything will be good again,&#8221; etc. That will soon be coming to an end once the midterms are over; any Republican concerned about being reelected will distance themselves from him any way they can, with more than a few openly breaking with him. This was probably going to happen anyway, even without the war, as Trump inevitably drifts into failed lame duck territory, but now it&#8217;s basically a guarantee.</p><p>However, the new version of this isn&#8217;t going to be &#8220;Good Tsar, Bad Boyars&#8221; but &#8220;Good Vance, Bad Trump.&#8221; </p><p>This has always been the thinly veiled message of most of Vance&#8217;s boosters, esp. the gaggle of professional Christian writers and influencers who have been drawn to him like flies to the aftermath of a midnight encounter with a couple of Crunchwrap Supremes, a side of cinnamon twists, and a 32 oz. Baja Blast. </p><p>These types include but are not limited to the following individuals: Ross Douthat, Gladden Pappin, Rod Dreher, Michael Brendan Dougherty, Patrick Deneen, etc. </p><p>A whole spectrum of narcissistic and overly ambitious people who have become absolutely entranced by the idea of having a fellow &#8216;Catholic&#8217; in the Oval Office, one who they can text and thus &#8216;influence.&#8217;</p><p>Of course, readers of this substack will know that that&#8217;s not how it works (unless your name is Lindsay Graham or Benjamin Netanyahu, of course). In reality the flow of influence goes the other way: Vance uses these individuals&#8217; pathetic obsession with access to craft and promote various media narratives for his own ends.</p><p>The most pernicious of these is the idea that Vance is some kind of foreign policy &#8216;restrainer.&#8217;</p><p>This idea has been promoted over and over again by these people (along with many others in the same network). The story goes something like this: Vance is a &#8216;realist&#8217; who is not a &#8216;neocon&#8217; and thus not swayed by &#8216;moral&#8217; arguments and will thus only make decisions that are in the best interests of the United States (&#8220;America First!&#8221;). In addition, he will be more serious and &#8216;stable&#8217; than Trump (admittedly a low bar).</p><p>It&#8217;s a nice story, and the gullible, those who want to believe Vance is the chosen one who will finally bring balance to the force and banish the libs once and for all, are more than willing to lap it up.</p><p>The only problem with it is that it&#8217;s categorically false. Vance is not a restrainer in any meaningful way and was originally a neocon who wrote for David Frum. One of the things he wrote, it should be noted, was both a defense of the Iraq War and of the infamous video leaked by Bradley Manning to WikiLeaks entitled &#8220;Collateral Murder,&#8221; in which an Apache helicopter was shown massacring civilians. </p><p>It should be noted that Vance made these arguments in 2010, not 2003 or 2004, so long after it had become apparent that the war was not only a failure but also was completely morally bankrupt. Still, Vance <a href="http://frumforum.com/entry/wikileaks-shows-true-nature-of-war">defended it</a> in blunt terms, stating, &#8220;We can legislate laws of war and refine rules of engagement, but war will always be a grisly business. I&#8217;m not a peacenik, and I supported the Iraq invasion on the merits, but it&#8217;s folly to send troops to do the toughest job and then be shocked by the attitude that some show while doing it.&#8221;</p><p>Vance&#8217;s writing is remarkably wooden and, I do not use this word lightly, sociopathic. He&#8217;s a  very strange guy. In addition, there&#8217;s also the sense, not so much that he&#8217;s being insincere as much as that he&#8217;s simply trying to tell you what you want to hear but in a particularly awkward way. Like an alien trying to pretend to be a human. </p><p>Insincerity, after all, implies that one is hiding their &#8216;true views&#8217; on a matter, whereas, when one looks closely at the black hole that is Vance himself, it becomes very hard to believe that he has any &#8216;true views&#8217; at all. As they say, &#8216;there is no there there.&#8217;</p><p>Frum himself <a href="https://www.facebook.com/restispolitics/videos/%EF%B8%8F-he-was-a-very-good-mimic-and-mirror-david-frum-talks-about-what-jd-vance-is-re/1754542695351197/">described</a> the Vance he knew as a &#8220;very good mimic and mirror.&#8221; Now people don&#8217;t like David Frum very much (I like David Frum even less!), so it was perhaps easy, too easy, for people to rationalize this criticism away as some kind of sour grapes or &#8220;TDS.&#8221; However, in the fullness of time, it&#8217;s impossible to claim he hasn&#8217;t been completely vindicated, as Vance has flipped back and forth on essentially every major issue, and not merely due to a one-off political conversion or a seemingly natural evolution but at the whim of whatever he believed he needed to say in order to advance himself in any particular situation.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>In addition, every single job Vance has ever had, with the exception of a brief stint after law school, he has gotten because of his &#8216;close friend&#8217; Peter Thiel. This includes both his former position as Senator from Ohio and his current position as Vice-President, it should be noted.</p><p>Vance is thus a wholly owned subsidiary of Thiel. Thiel spent years trying to influence politicians via traditional means, cutting checks to a variety of figures. This kind of thing can get you a lot; it can get you tax breaks and carve-outs and contracts and special favors, but it can&#8217;t get you the one thing Thiel really craves: total control. </p><p>For that you need to not farm out the process; you need to do it totally in-house. Hence the creation of Blake Masters and JD Vance, both figures totally reliant on Thiel for literally everything, both of whom would be essentially completely controlled by him in the event either attained any kind of power or influence. The attempt to have Masters run for Senate and then the House in Arizona hilariously ended in disaster both times. In large part due to the tendency of Masters&#8217; personality to come across as that of a stilted school shooter.</p><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;40c2e1db-457a-42c3-bb4b-a262a241fa81&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><p>Vance, on the other hand, through a combination of luck, shamelessness, impressive shapeshifting skills, and, it must be noted, intense lobbying from Thiel and his circle, was able to slime and weasel his way almost to the very top of the pole and, within just a few years, become vice-president. That is the story of JD Vance; that&#8217;s who he is. </p><p>Vance is the chosen one to carry Thiel&#8217;s agenda and that of the broader GSF coalition to the White House. Hence the uncritical adoration with which he is showered by this coalition&#8217;s stakeholders.</p><p>One of the important parts of this agenda is uncritical support for Thiel&#8217;s many interests in the military-industrial complex, in particular Palantir (on which the critical mass of Thiel&#8217;s current and future net worth depends). </p><p>Joe Lonsdale and Alex Karp, for instance, are demented, militantly Zionist fanatics. In addition, Palantir also has extensive contracts with the Israeli military of various types, including for AI-driven target acquisition that has been responsible for the deaths of countless civilians throughout the Middle East and is also used to track Americans at home through various surveillance programs.</p><p>In addition, it also seems likely, as of today, that Palantir&#8217;s target acquisition software was used during the US strike in Iran that murdered over 180 young girls. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2Ny2!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F14ac5504-689c-4708-862e-c7b03115b493_1176x910.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2Ny2!, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/w_424, 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more embarrassing debacle) in order to aggressively enforce his own &#8216;red lines&#8217; for Iran</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rdrx!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa45fe8e9-a058-4a3a-8aea-734677dadefd_1202x1048.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rdrx!, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/w_424, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa45fe8e9-a058-4a3a-8aea-734677dadefd_1202x1048.png 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rdrx!, 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y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p></p><p>When it came to the decision to engage in a full on war with Iran, once more military assets had finally arrived in February, Vance, according to the <a href="/__u/www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=&amp;cad=rja&amp;uact=8&amp;ved=2ahUKEwiHm9nVio2TAxU5PDQIHWAqG7cQFnoECBwQAQ&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2026%2F03%2F02%2Fus%2Fpolitics%2Ftrump-war-iran-israel.html&amp;usg=AOvVaw3CwEs6wWTISDN0tfXcNcZP&amp;opi=89978449">New York Times</a>, didn&#8217;t want to be outdone by other members of the administration and argued against limited strikes in favor of going &#8216;big and fast&#8217; (lol, lmao even). </p><p>And that&#8217;s precisely what the Trump administration did, in the process carrying out what will likely be seen as one of the most infamous blunders in modern military history. <strong>It was quite literally his idea.</strong></p><p>This is JD Vance&#8217;s war, and we can&#8217;t let him forget it, regardless of how hard he tries to run from it. Vance should never be able to serve in elected office again and should be forced to the very edges of society, where he will live the rest of his life as the disgraced, disfigured moral leper that he really is.</p><p>Now there are a few potentialities that may occur here that we should take into account: 1) Things may get bad enough that Vance decides to forget about 2028 altogether and instead retire back to the lab to make some money in venture capital while Thiel&#8217;s team oils his rusty joints, updates his software, and tries to repair the damage to his reputation in the hopes of getting him back out onto the field in time for 2032 or 2036. 2) Vance resigns and basically decides to run against Trump in the 2028 primary, claiming he was the &#8216;voice of reason,&#8217; etc., as former Thiel Capital employee Curt Mills <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/05/opinion/iran-us-foreign-policy-curt-mills.html">floated</a> during a damage control session he just had on Ross Douthat&#8217;s podcast &#8216;Interesting Times.&#8217; </p><p>The first option is probably his best move at this point, although it will be a long shot, as Vance has negative charisma, and most people understand him as being both a phony and now very much responsible for the debacle that is the second Trump administration. The second option is almost certainly not going to happen, as Vance will shrink from confronting Trump even if he is significantly diminished by a disastrous war. In addition, no one is going to trust or respect a transparently opportunistic about-face (if he had been truly sincere, he would have resigned in protest during the run-up to the war itself, not after it went wrong).</p><p>However, one of the most dangerous possibilities (outside of the use of nukes) is that the Iran debacle may take such a serious toll on an 80-year-old Trump that he simply doesn&#8217;t make it through his term and expires prematurely, leaving Vance in control. This is dangerous, not because he is likely to win in 2028 but because the knowledge that he almost certainly will not win may encourage the Thiel faction to take massive risks in order to try and seize power. Thiel, for instance, is a paranoid drug user, and he will have plenty of reason to be paranoid if and when he is looking down the barrel of a brutal and massive revolt against the GOP and its allied tech factions in 2028. A paranoia that may lead them to do desperate and stupid things.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/p/this-is-jd-vances-war-dont-let-him?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/p/this-is-jd-vances-war-dont-let-him?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><p>Regardless of the outcome, there is only one path forward: a relentless focus on not letting Vance escape his role in this war, ever. That means repeating the truth over and over again. If at some point in the future you think you&#8217;ve brought it up too many times, that probably means you need to say it again. </p><p>Never stop until Vance and his network are cut out and separated from the body politic like the cancer they are for good. And then once you&#8217;ve done that, douse the remains in gasoline and light a match. </p><p>It&#8217;s the only way to be sure.  </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Why Rod Dreher is Voting for Eugenics in 2028]]></title><description><![CDATA[On the Insanity of Christian Conservatives Allying With Thiel's Favorite Meat Puppet]]></description><link>https://postscript1794.substack.com/p/why-rod-dreher-is-voting-for-eugenics</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://postscript1794.substack.com/p/why-rod-dreher-is-voting-for-eugenics</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan Cioran]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2026 13:03:25 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhE6!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8e35482b-1995-4c68-a276-3cd0cebd61d4_1328x998.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div 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Over and over again, they have proven themselves to seemingly be the most foolish, simple-minded, and gullible constituency of any political coalition in the past 100 years. In this sense, and only this sense, does their movement have any meaningful &#8220;accomplishments&#8221; to speak of. </p><p>The most prominent individual currently still working in this venerable tradition is none other than longtime blogger, social conservative activist, and earnest Instagram gourmand <span class="mention-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Rod Dreher&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:2630901,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/762a4764-c24d-4d8a-87f0-ff761d14f527_1802x2355.jpeg&quot;,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;caeb4982-261b-4d75-b5f6-bdc3785f32ff&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span> . </p><p>Rod is known for a lot of things, not all of them good. It would be easy, too easy, to make this article an attack on his personal foibles and failings. Our goal here, rather, is to interrogate Dreher&#8217;s shameless and slavish devotion to JD Vance and Peter Thiel for what it can tell us, not only about one man&#8217;s duplicity and cowardice, but also about the moral failings of the class of so-called &#8216;socially conservative Christian&#8217; pundits that Dreher represents.</p><p>Needless to say, Dreher is as big a fan of Peter Thiel as he is of his acolyte JD Vance. It is unclear exactly when Dreher became acquainted with Thiel, but it appears likely that it occurred sometime after he met Vance, which, according to Dreher&#8217;s own <a href="https://www.theamericanconservative.com/in-defense-of-jd-vance/">accounting</a>, happened &#8220;right before Hillbilly Elegy shot to prominence,&#8221; so sometime in 2016. </p><p>2016 is a notable year; not only was it the year that Donald Trump won both the Republican nomination and the presidency, but it was also the year that Peter Thiel spoke at the Republican National Convention. </p><p>Of course, Dreher&#8217;s view of Thiel has radically evolved since then, but at the time his view of both Thiel and his ideological and political project (<a href="https://mereorthodoxy.com/gay-space-fascism">Gay Space Fascism</a>) was far less rosy than it is now. </p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>In Dreher&#8217;s <a href="https://www.theamericanconservative.com/peter-thiel-was-wrong-culture-wars/">review</a> of Thiel&#8217;s 2016 RNC speech, he criticizes Thiel for not appreciating the importance of the conservative &#8216;culture war.&#8217; He also claimed Thiel was a &#8220;transhumanist&#8221; who &#8220;believes that human nature is determined by our own wills&#8221; (which is more or less correct) while also simultaneously appearing to believe that Thiel&#8217;s agenda was some kind of Soros-like &#8220;globalist&#8221; project (which is basically wrong).</p><p>A year earlier Dreher also wrote a notable entry coming out against Thiel ally Marc Andreessen&#8217;s proto-GSF manifesto.  </p><p>&#8220;Andreessen comes off as an iconic figure of our time: a bona fide genius, wielder of enormous power, and visionary whose vision happens to be, well, evil. I don&#8217;t know how else to put it, frankly,&#8221; Dreher wrote. </p><p>He then adds, in reference to Andreessen and his wife&#8217;s decision, like many Gay Space Fascists, to rent a surrogate&#8217;s womb for the birth of their child: &#8220;These are two fantastically smart, indescribably rich people who farm out the gestation of their own child to someone who carried their baby&#8212;thus avoiding the unpleasant parts of being incarnate beings&#8212;and who live a life of luxury of which the kings of old couldn&#8217;t have dreamed.&#8221;</p><p>&#8220;I think Andreessen and his tribe are so dangerous because they really do believe what they say. They don&#8217;t believe in anything but the glorification of the Self and the emancipation of the Self from anything outside of itself. <em>Ye shall be as gods,&#8221; </em>Dreher concludes.</p><p>Of course none of these criticisms are surprising coming from someone who makes their living as a conservative Christian influencer (and guru of sorts). What has been surprising (at least to those unaware of Dreher&#8217;s political and social associations) has been Dreher&#8217;s U-turn in recent years from being a critic of Thiel&#8217;s Gay Space Fascist agenda to someone who is actively aiding and abetting it. And not just in an inadvertent way but as an active and knowing fellow traveler. </p><p>There are, of course, two main aspects to this: Dreher&#8217;s support for Vance and his personal relationship with Thiel himself. </p><p>Dreher&#8217;s support for Vance, whom he seems to believe, in characteristically buffoonish fashion, is some kind of messianic figure, is well documented and really needs no elaboration here. </p><h3>Preempting the False Claims of Pro-Vance Propagandists</h3><p>What is important is to preempt a bad faith attack, which I know is coming. Namely the predictable gaslighting that occurs when people attempt to somehow assert that Vance is &#8216;his own person&#8217; and has only &#8216;limited&#8217; ties to Thiel, etc. </p><p>We can see this take in the wild in the form of a recent spat of tweets from Daryl Cooper in which he tried to undermine the obvious and well-documented connection between Thiel and Vance. </p><p>Cooper attempts a classic Thieloid rhetorical maneuver: open gaslighting. 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y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Cooper then moves on to the second rhetorical movie, a begrudging admission that Vance is, in fact, a creation of Thiel but also that, well, it&#8217;s not really a big deal and anyway the alternative is worse:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!M3qn!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd598af79-0554-4ca0-bd61-9db43a9de174_1226x1074.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!M3qn!, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/w_424, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/q_auto:good, 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eventually he moves on to the third rhetorical technique, which is basically &#8220;Ok, yes, you&#8217;re right, oh, and btw, I have Thiel ties too, but here&#8217;s why that&#8217;s actually good!&#8221;</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4ZbL!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F071009af-10ea-4392-991c-ff4e31e511a7_1198x472.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4ZbL!, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/w_424, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/q_auto:good, 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y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Funny enough, this kind of rhetoric is very similar to Dreher&#8217;s own favorite &#8216;law of merited impossibility.&#8217; The Thielworld version is similar and, boiled down, essentially amounts to the same message: &#8216;The Thiel network isn&#8217;t a thing, and it&#8217;s good that it is!&#8217; etc.</p><h3>The Reality of Vance as Entirely a Creation of Thiel</h3><p>However, I think we should go over, quickly and succinctly, Vance&#8217;s long history with Thiel, so we can quickly dispatch similar kinds of obscurantist arguments:</p><p>-Vance first met Thiel during his time at Yale Law School, after which time the two began a &#8216;friendship.&#8217;</p><p>-After Vance graduated, his first job, after a stint at a law firm, was with a biotech firm, Circuit Therapeutics. A job that he got via a recommendation from Thiel in spite of having no biotech experience at all.</p><p>-Vance then left Circuit Therapeutics to work at one of Thiel&#8217;s own venture firms in 2016, a company called Mithril Capital. </p><p>-Thiel helped to promote Vance&#8217;s memoir, Hillbilly Elegy, contributing a glowing blurb that was prominently displayed on the book&#8217;s jacket.</p><p>-Vance then returned to Ohio and started his own venture firm, Narya Capital, almost entirely with funds from Thiel, Andreessen, and others in the Thiel network.</p><p>-When Vance decided to try to run for Senate in Ohio in 2022, Thiel gave Vance&#8217;s campaign a historic 15 million dollars (a sum that almost certainly helped put Vance over the top in an otherwise tight race). Thiel also steered at least $200,000 to Vance&#8217;s super PAC from a group he controlled called Per Aspera Policy, according to the Kansas City Star and OpenSecrets. Thiel also personally introduced Vance to Donald Trump and convinced the then-former president to endorse him.</p><p>-Thiel, along with many of his Silicon Valley allies, took part in a pressure campaign on then-former president Trump to have him select Vance as his running mate in 2024. He very much owes his selection as VP to Thiel and his network bringing pressure to bear on Trump.</p><p>-Vance has also referred to Thiel as &#8216;a very close friend&#8217; and also credited him in part for his decision to convert to Catholicism. </p><p>This list, which it should be noted is nowhere near exhaustive, is more than enough for any reasonable person to conclude that Vance essentially belongs to Thiel, body and soul. Almost every opportunity he was offered and took advantage of occurred solely because of Thiel&#8217;s influence and assistance, from his first non-legal job all the way to the vice presidency. To say that Vance &#8216;&#8220;owes everything&#8221; to Thiel is not an understatement in any way. </p><p>Furthermore, and just as importantly, Vance will also likely rely on Thiel and his network both for the financing of his future political campaigns as well as for income and employment once his political career is over (a fact that remains true whether he wins or loses in 2028). </p><p>What do these people think, that he is going to move back to Cincinnati and chase ambulances? No, Vance is going to go back to work for Thiel and will make large amounts of money working at one of Thiel&#8217;s various endeavors after his political career is over.</p><p>Therefore there is essentially zero daylight between the two figures. To support Thiel is to support Vance, and to support Vance is to support Thiel. This includes the entirety of Thiel&#8217;s biological, technological, and political agenda, all of which will be fast-tracked and pursued vigorously under any potential Vance administration. Which is the entire reason Thiel has supported Vance, who has had open political ambitions essentially from the start. </p><p>For Thiel, Vance has been a bet that has already paid off massively and could soon provide him with the ultimate return on investment. </p><p>And here we find the real scandal of Dreher&#8217;s association with these figures: not that he has &#8216;friends&#8217; with unsavory views or lifestyles that are not compatible with his ostensible faith (although this is certainly true), but rather that he is actively participating in a campaign to deceive his audience. </p><p>Put more simply: Dreher knows very well that there is no meaningful distinction between Vance and Thiel. He also knows that if and when Vance wins in 2028, Thiel&#8217;s agenda, in all domains, will receive a massive new boost. A boost that will both multiply Thiel&#8217;s wealth by orders of magnitude and ensure his biological and technological agendas become mainstreamed and receive the full backing of the American empire. Again, Dreher knows this and is thus actively lying to his audience, primarily composed of naive religious conservatives, by pretending that his buddy JD is on &#8216;their side&#8217; and that Thiel is somehow a &#8216;sincere Christian.&#8217;</p><p>There is simply no way for Dreher to actually believe this without being a world-historic imbecile; I refuse to believe that he is that stupid.</p><p>Then again, I suppose the explanation could be a bit simpler: that Dreher has simply been seduced both by Thiel&#8217;s wining and dining of him as well as the ego-boosting illusion of influence he receives by having occasional access to Vance. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!S5JB!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd3b92ffd-08aa-43d6-9e2c-991b3e5449e7_1544x324.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div 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It appears that the cost for Rod&#8217;s is likely in the same ballpark.</figcaption></figure></div><p>That Dreher is a bit of a narcissist is not particularly difficult to discern, especially to anyone who has followed his writing over the years. Thus, it makes sense that he would be enraptured to find himself being subsidized by Thiel as well as being invited to various Thielworld-adjacent rubber chicken dinner events. In addition, a recent episode in which he flew into Bratislava on Thiel&#8217;s private jet in order to introduce him to a Slovak intellectual shows that Dreher has become something of a point man for Thiel in Central Europe, an active agent of influence:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5lWj!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F12805bfb-dfdd-46ae-ad24-daf2a3a86699_1186x1086.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5lWj!, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/w_424, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/q_auto:good, 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/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbed62f12-e42c-477a-8a9e-745730ee858a_1720x196.png 1272w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kU7M!, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/w_1456, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbed62f12-e42c-477a-8a9e-745730ee858a_1720x196.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>What Dreher&#8217;s self-importance and narcissism prevent him from seeing is that, as the old saying goes, <strong>&#8216;If something is free, you aren&#8217;t the customer; you&#8217;re the product.&#8217;</strong></p><p>This is especially true for the influencers, like Dreher, being courted by Thiel. Thiel is not interested in being their &#8216;friend&#8217;; he is interested in the utility they provide for him and his project: namely, ensuring the support of conservative Christian voters when the time comes to pull the lever for Vance in 2028 and 2032. A group that might have second thoughts about Thiel&#8217;s more &#8216;controversial&#8217; activities if they didn&#8217;t have influencers like Rod around to assuage their, entirely rational, fears. </p><p>Rod, like other &#8216;Christian&#8217; &#8216;thought leaders,&#8217; like, say, Patrick Deneen, Michael Brendan Dougherty, and Ross Douthat, have deluded themselves into believing, via an almost comical self-regard, that they can somehow positively influence Vance and Thiel through their associations with them. In reality, it is the inverse that is the case: <em>they are the ones being influenced.</em></p><h3>Thiel&#8217;s Skin Suit Christianity</h3><p>Dreher would have his readers believe that his &#8216;friend,&#8217; Peter Thiel, is an honest and &#8216;sincere&#8217; Christian. This notion is an offensive absurdity, unless we also believe that words have no meaning. </p><p>&#8220;In listening to Thiel talk, and in personal conversation with him, I didn&#8217;t learn much at all about the nature of his Christian profession, but I came away convinced that however misguided he is from an orthodox Christian perspective, he is utterly sincere.&#8221; Dreher claimed in a <a href="/__u/roddreher.substack.com/p/stranger-to-himself-on-a-train?open=false#%C2%A7peter-thiel-and-silicon-valley-christianity">Substack post</a>.</p><p>Thiel likes to talk about Christianity; this is true, but there is absolutely no evidence that he has any kind of actual belief in it. I&#8217;m not interested in splitting confessional hairs here, but I think there is a big difference between genuine Christians of the various confessions, even very &#8216;thin&#8217; ones like evangelicals, and what it seems according to all available evidence that Thiel is. Which appears to be something like what Jordan Peterson is: essentially someone who does not believe in the actual claims of Christianity but rather sees it as conveying some kind of mythological or symbolic &#8216;truth,&#8217; regardless of whether this &#8216;truth&#8217; is Jungian psychobabble, Girardian scapegoat theory, or something else entirely. For instance, I&#8217;m almost positive that Thiel could not honestly assent to the Nicene Creed. Moreover, I don&#8217;t even think he could honestly assent to an extremely simple formulation of Christian faith found amongst, say, most evangelicals, such as: &#8216;I believe Jesus Christ is the son of God and died and then rose from the dead three days later.&#8217;</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>I find myself agreeing with <a href="https://www.stephendiehl.com/posts/desconstructing_thiel/">Stephen Diehl</a>&#8217;s (who I generally find insufferable, fwiw) assessment of Thiel&#8217;s use of Christianity:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;Thiel often discusses Christianity's importance but strategically hedges on affirming the literal, metaphysical existence of the Christian God in the way many devout believers do. Instead, he tends to frame &#8216;Christianity as true,&#8217; where the word &#8216;true&#8217; carries a specific, functional weight rather than indicating belief in a supernatural being who intervenes in the world. <strong>For Thiel, Christianity's &#8216;truth&#8217; appears rooted in its perceived efficacy as a foundational moral system and a crucial unifying narrative for Western civilization, providing structure, meaning, and potentially a bulwark against nihilism or societal decay (often from, in his mind, non-Western influences), rather than asserting a philosophical commitment to the objective reality of a supernatural being and the literal miracles described in the Bible.&#8221;</strong></p></blockquote><p>Thiel is also a Straussian, and for him, like all real Straussians, Christianity is an important &#8216;noble lie&#8217; that must be upheld, not only to instill virtue in the populace but also to keep the forces of nihilism at bay. </p><p>In no meaningful way does this make Thiel a &#8216;serious&#8217; or even a &#8216;heterodox&#8217; Christian, as both of these descriptors imply he believes in it as more than a societally beneficial myth. Arians were &#8216;heterodox&#8217; Christians; one might even say a believing Muslim is a kind of &#8216;heterodox&#8217; Christian as well (if you really want to stretch things). Peter Thiel does not appear to be a genuine Christian of any variety, however. </p><p>One could forgive, say, a tech reporter, for simply describing Thiel as a &#8216;self-professed&#8217; Christian for the sake of simplicity or out of disinterest in exploring the details of this claim. But Rod&#8217;s alleged expertise is in religion and Christianity. It&#8217;s actually his job to dive into the weeds here. Instead Rod chooses to downplay facts that he knows would end up turning many of his readers off to Thiel&#8217;s agenda.</p><p>Thiel&#8217;s personal beliefs are somewhat irrelevant here, though, as even if Thiel was a professed orthodox believer, his actions have made him an advocate for explicit and transparent evil, which is the real scandal here. </p><h3>Peter Thiel: <em>Hostis humani generis</em></h3><p>Thiel, through his various investments, is methodically and purposely working to create a cruel and hellish new world of Gay Space Fascism. He is actively building a networked surveillance state that has been used to murder entire families in Gaza and other war zones and is also already being used to surveil the American populace as well. He himself is a &#8216;married&#8217; homosexual whose former lover allegedly &#8216;threw themself&#8217; off of a Miami skyscraper after a fight with Thiel for unknown reasons. He also has several children he procured via surrogacy, that is, &#8216;rented wombs.&#8217; In addition, he has heavily invested in several different companies, including both <a href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/p/how-orchids-designer-babies-will?utm_source=profile&amp;utm_medium=reader2">Orchid</a> and Nucleus (The heads of both companies, Noor Siddiqui and Kian Sadeghi, are former Thiel fellows, with Nucleus itself having receiving millions in funding from Thiel&#8217;s Founders&#8217; Fund) that provide customers with the ability to carry out &#8216;genetic screening&#8217; on their embryos (including ones born via surrogacy). That is, they are openly practicing eugenics via embryo screening in hopes of breeding a class of genetically enhanced &#8216;elites,&#8217; <a href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/p/costin-alamarius-selective-breeding">a vampire elite,</a> which they then plan on using to rule over the rest of humanity, who will be reduced to living in primitive squalor (this will be &#8216;trad,&#8217; however, as Thiel&#8217;s misshapen goblin servant <span class="mention-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Curtis Yarvin&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:8351821,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/968fcb6a-b557-4344-8c45-fcab5961e17e_329x387.png&quot;,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;9c8300fc-5bcc-4574-90e0-bda9e1775043&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span> has repeatedly assured us).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 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class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;b79075ee-d801-4533-980a-3ac541ef56df&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><p></p><p>The truth is Rod&#8217;s friend, who he would like us to believe is a &#8216;serious&#8217; if &#8216;heterodox&#8217; Christian, is, in fact, a genuine psychopath who has access to dangerous amounts of power and will stop at nothing until he accrues even more by electing JD Vance, a man who believes in absolutely nothing aside from the idea that he must continue climbing the greasy pole of politics by whatever means necessary.</p><p>Thiel employs the theories of Ren&#233; Girard as a kind of rhetorical squid ink, which he uses to attempt to parry any and all criticism of his goals (&#8220;Don&#8217;t like me and the objectively evil things I am doing? Sounds like someone is scapegoating!&#8221;). Thiel is now employing a similar strategy with his new attempt to paint hapless environmentalists like Greta Thunberg as some kind of existential threat to humanity, literally inferring that they are somehow agents of the anti-christ, a clownish charade Dreher happily nods along with in spite of its obvious absurdity. His glazing of Thiel on this issue is so shameless, he might as well just moo.</p><p> Meanwhile, it is, in reality, his own agenda: the promotion of hyper-empowered, &#8216;creative&#8217; individuals who must be freed of all traditional constraints, including that of traditional morality, the &#8216;scapegoating&#8217; of the mob, and even death itself, which bears a strange resemblance to that of the traditional understanding of the Christian Devil. His creed, such as it is, is merely a twisted, foul pseudo-Christian antinomianism.</p><p>Thiel is a professional manipulator who employs <a href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/p/notes-on-the-thiel-thing-real-threat">an entire network</a> of other manipulators and psychopaths to do his bidding. That is to say, he is seeking to gain as much power as possible in order to radically transform society, down to the biological level, in pursuit of a new kind of tyranny that has often been described as &#8216;techno-feudalism.&#8217; One of the main avenues this program is taking is a new regime of eugenics backed and funded by Thiel in the form of a variety of genetic screening startups. This will result, far more quickly than most people imagine, in a grotesque two-tiered society. There is a reason, for instance, that Malcom and Simone Collins <span class="mention-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Based Camp | Simone &amp; Malcolm&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:320495,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff87ac93a-5b29-43bc-b597-6c69db5439bb_1024x1015.jpeg&quot;,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;ca7281c2-e663-448f-ae2c-f564859a619e&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span> (probably the most open and honest advocates of open GSF out there) are backed by Thiel and his network (Simone herself directly worked for Thiel while Malcom was previously involved with the Thiel-backed cult &#8216;Leverage Research&#8217;). It is not a stretch at all to say that their views on many things, particularly surrogacy and eugenic screening, approximate Thiel&#8217;s own quite nicely. As Yarvin himself <a href="https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/josephbernstein/heres-how-breitbart-and-milo-smuggled-white-nationalism">once put it</a>, Peter is &#8216;fully enlightened.&#8217;</p><p>Dreher has deployed a number of excuses, most of them trite and predictable, for why he has chosen to ally with both Vance and Thiel. The clearest of which appears to be a 2021 one, in which, after he spends many paragraphs glazing Vance as the equivalent of the second coming, he <a href="https://www.theamericanconservative.com/in-defense-of-jd-vance/">says this </a>of Thiel: </p><blockquote><p>&#8220;If these are the kind of candidates that Peter Thiel is bankrolling, I say hooray for Peter Thiel. They have George Soros; we need a Peter Thiel. I disagree with Thiel on some important issues, but I don&#8217;t have to agree with Thiel to be excited about the candidacies of these two men he&#8217;s helping make their inaugural runs for the Senate. We are not going to vote our way out of this American crisis, but the men and women we elect can work to create the conditions under which we in civil society can fight back against those who are tearing America down, and tearing Americans apart.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>Reading this rationalization is especially funny in 2026, after Vance and the Trump administration have repeatedly rug-pulled social conservatives like Rod on basically every single possible issue, especially <a href="https://nypost.com/2024/08/15/us-news/jd-vance-explains-how-his-catholic-faith-aligns-with-policies-on-abortion-ivf-you-have-to-accept-that-you-live-in-a-democratic-society">abortion and IVF</a>. More importantly, however, Rod is making a basic category error here by conflating Soros with Thiel. </p><p>George Soros is many things, but he is really nothing like Thiel. Yes, Soros does (or did) have a quite formidable NGO empire, which was able to exert itself on the global stage and engaged in many activities that, in my opinion, were quite bad. However, right now, Thiel himself is far more powerful than Soros ever was. His network, while being much less formalized in its structure than Soros&#8217;s, is actually more powerful and exerts much more influence in the current GOP than Soros&#8217;s did in the Democratic Party, even during its heyday. Furthermore, there simply is no progressive or left-wing equivalent of Palantir, a seemingly all-powerful entity that has now embedded itself in the bowels of the American deep state, where it waxes and grows fat while slowly transmuting America into a 24/7 panopticon security state. In addition, whatever one thinks of Soros&#8217;s beliefs, they were quite transparent. There was no secret plot; Soros is a open Popperite (his foundation is literally named after his book!). That&#8217;s what he wants; there&#8217;s not much more to it than this. Whereas Thiel, the Straussian manipulator, actively misleads the public about what his true beliefs and intentions actually are.</p><p>To make matters worse, Thiel&#8217;s favored policies, the policies that will be championed by soon-to-be President Vance, make an open mockery of Dreher&#8217;s alleged dedication to Christian moral beliefs. In reality, Thiel&#8217;s consistent and high level support for transhumanism, embryonic genetic screening, and surrogacy (to name just a few of his more noxious interests) is in reality just as bad for society, if not actually worse in the long term, than anything proposed by the left, including transgenderism. </p><p>In fact, Thiel&#8217;s only actual problem with transgenderism, aside from the aesthetically displeasing nature of progressive transgender culture, is that, as he told the New York Times, it doesn&#8217;t go far enough. </p><p>&#8220;We want more than cross-dressing or changing your sex organs. We want you to be able to change your heart and change your mind and change your whole body,&#8221; Thiel proclaimed. </p><p>&#8220;And then orthodox Christianity, by the way &#8212; the critique orthodox Christianity has of this, is these things don&#8217;t go far enough. That transhumanism is just changing your body, but you also need to transform your soul and you need to transform your whole self,&#8221; he added.</p><p>Thus we can see Thiel&#8217;s &#8216;theology&#8217; for what it is: a direct and open mockery of the Christian gospel. The transfiguration first witnessed at Tabor is consciously mangled by Thiel into some kind of grotesque science experiment, the barbaric practice of commercial surrogacy (through which Thiel&#8217;s own children were brought into the world) serves as his mockery of the immaculate conception. And Thiel&#8217;s same-sex &#8220;marriage&#8221; (a practice that has now become a craze amongst &#8220;conservative&#8221; influencers in Thiel&#8217;s orbit) a parody of the Christian sacrament of the same name, in very much the same sense as, say, a Black Mass is.</p><p>This is the theology that Dreher makes excuses for and attempts to rationalize in the name of political expediency and is the political star to which he has hitched his own personal fortunes via his slavish and uncritical allegiance to JD Vance. </p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/p/why-rod-dreher-is-voting-for-eugenics?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/p/why-rod-dreher-is-voting-for-eugenics?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><h3>A Quick Reality Check on Dreher&#8217;s Fake Crusade Against Tucker Carlson and Nick Fuentes</h3><p>Now it must be noted here that Rod Dreher has launched something of a &#8216;crusade&#8217; in recent weeks and months against both Tucker Carlson and Nick Fuentes. This was initiated by the controversial interview Carlson did with Fuentes a few months ago. Dreher has stated publicly that this was a bridge too far and that both Carlson and Fuentes are now beyond the pale and should be shunned from polite society, etc. He has also suggested that the best way to do this was for his buddy Vice-President JD Vance to make a public statement basically excommunicating the Fuentes, Carlson, and the groypers. </p><p>Now, this obviously isn&#8217;t going to happen, and Dreher knows this. Tucker Carlson remains an extremely influential individual in MAGA world and commands a significant audience, an audience Vance is going to need if he&#8217;s going to win in 2028. </p><p>The same is true of Fuentes, who, while he has occasionally been lightly criticized in the past, will not likely ever be fully &#8216;excommunicated&#8217; in the way that Dreher imagines. Fuentes also commands a significant audience, one that Vance covets. Hence why, as I explained in a <a href="/__u/substack.com/@jonathancioran/p-181752544">recent piece</a>, Thielworld is busy attempting to carrot and stick Fuentes into joining the big tent and telling his followers to pull the lever for team Vance in &#8216;28. </p><p>Dreher has insinuated that if a public statement is not forthcoming from Vance, this may be too much for him. I don&#8217;t think even he believes this. Rod likes access too much to throw it away so lightly, especially over something as insignificant as mere &#8216;principles.&#8217; </p><p>The truth is that being anti-Fuentes and/or anti-Tucker is an easy and cheap way for him to feel virtuous (literally &#8216;virtue signaling&#8217;) while convincing himself that he is &#8216;doing something&#8217; about all those bad &#8216;Nazis&#8217; that are infiltrating the GOP. 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/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F068ea5cf-400a-4512-9263-1be6488e23cd_1430x184.png 1272w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ghr_!, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/w_1456, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F068ea5cf-400a-4512-9263-1be6488e23cd_1430x184.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p></p><p>Yes, Rod&#8217;s best friend, JD Vance, an extremely tech-savvy millennial who very much understands what he is doing, actively follows Captive Dreamer (Geoffrey Martin). He does this because he is an active member of an online network that defends everything and anything Vance and Trump do, however absurd or odious. Vance rationally views these activities as beneficial and seeks to encourage this activity in the future. Vance has zero ethical qualms about doing this in spite of Martin being just as much of a &#8216;Nazi&#8217; as Fuentes, if not more so. Why then does Dreher pretend to expect Vance to &#8216;do something&#8217; about Fuentes?</p><h3>Conclusion</h3><p>Of course, none of this will likely end well for Rod, who I do not believe can be reasoned with in a meaningful way. The pull of access to a man who may soon be the President of the United States and the billionaire behind him is likely simply too great.</p><p>But, again, the real scandal here is the effect this self-delusion will have on many of his readers, most of whom are otherwise good people who are being actively deceived by him when it comes to the agendas of both Thiel and Vance. Pointing out, as Dreher sheepishly and reluctantly did in a <a href="https://legrandcontinent.eu/fr/2025/08/11/entretien-rod-dreher/">recent interview</a> that was only published in French, that his pal Peter was &#8220;at best &#8212; theologically confused&#8221; regarding his demented transhumanist beliefs regarding the transfiguration is simply not good enough. The reality is that he has been, and continues to be, a willing tool of Thiel&#8217;s agenda and is actively and knowingly misleading his audience by soft pedaling the truth about his &#8216;friends.&#8217;</p><p>In his letter to the Ephesians, Saint Paul instructed his fellow believers to &#8220;have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.&#8221; A piece of advice Christians, like Dreher, who have made their Faustian pacts with Thielworld would be wise to finally take&#8230;while they still can.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Fuentes, Tucker, Rockbridge, and the Conspiracy to Elect J.D. Vance in 2028]]></title><description><![CDATA[Turns out...the Game was Rigged From the Start]]></description><link>https://postscript1794.substack.com/p/fuentes-tucker-rockbridge-and-the</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://postscript1794.substack.com/p/fuentes-tucker-rockbridge-and-the</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan Cioran]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2026 03:42:51 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CLMN!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fabcb0af3-0660-46a2-9dd7-a9ef71fadea5_1380x810.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CLMN!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fabcb0af3-0660-46a2-9dd7-a9ef71fadea5_1380x810.png" 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Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p>However, the happenings of the past several months threw me for a bit of a loop and left me a bit confused as to what exactly was going on. Now that the dust has settled, though, I think things have become a lot clearer and, fortunately for us, have illuminated much of the machinery of the present Thiel network.</p><p>I am speaking, of course, about the strange interaction between the far-right superstar (I think this is not at all an exaggerated descriptor at this point) Nick Fuentes and Tucker Carlson. To refresh, Carlson had Fuentes on his show, an extremely unusual move considering that Fuentes had relentlessly attacked both Carlson and his key allies and patrons, in particular JD Vance and Peter Thiel. For a moment there it also seemed as though Fuentes was attempting to moderate his message, particularly on his anti-Jewish stuff. Of course, since the interview, Fuentes has appeared to turn on Carlson once again, thus returning things to where they started. </p><p>But what did it all mean?</p><p>Before we answer this question, however, I think it&#8217;s worth it to engage in a brief refresher on Tucker&#8217;s ties to Thiel and where exactly he fits in the greater schema of the Thielverse.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><h3><strong>Who is Tucker Carlson Really?</strong></h3><p>Of course, on the surface Tucker doesn&#8217;t exactly seem like a very good Gay Space Fascist, now does he? After all, he is a born-again paleoconservative, a loud proponent of &#8216;traditional values,&#8217; a critic of the US&#8217;s neoconservative/neoliberal foreign policy establishment (the activities of which Thiel personally financially benefits from via his defense companies), and a sworn enemy of &#8216;the deep state&#8217; (which Thiel&#8217;s company Palantir acts as a key pillar of). </p><p>However, the truth is not at all what it seems with Tucker. His father ran &#8216;Voice of America&#8217; during the Cold War, an agency that worked significantly with U.S. intelligence agencies. Tucker himself applied to work for the CIA when he was younger. He owns a house in Qatar. Talk to anyone who really knows Tucker or who has interacted with him in depth, and if they trust you enough, they will tell you that he&#8217;s&#8230;not exactly what he seems. They will tell you that there is &#8220;another side&#8221; of him that is not at all the same as the jolly, affable persona he usually performs.</p><p>In addition, Tucker also maintains significant ties to Thiel. Ties which many people are not aware of. Let us quickly peruse some of the more transparent of these, which can easily be verified with publicly available information. </p><p>In late 2023, Tucker Carlson&#8217;s new media company&#8212;incorporated in Nevada under the name <em>Last Country Inc.</em>&#8212;raised a roughly $15 million seed financing round to start operations producing online content after Carlson&#8217;s departure from Fox. The lead investor in that round was <em>1789 Capital, </em>a company that emerged in 2022 with the backing of three principal figures: Omeed Malik, Rebecca Mercer, and Chris Buskirk. 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class="image-caption">Buskirk, before and after his &#8216;male-to-male&#8217; transition. As you can see, he uses the term &#8216;vitalism&#8217; a lot now.</figcaption></figure></div><p>Who is Buskirk exactly? Well prior to 2016 he wasn&#8217;t much of anything. That is to say, he was a &#8216;struggling businessman&#8217; in Arizona. As <a href="https://www.reuters.com/investigations/trump-linked-venture-fund-1789-capital-tops-1-billion-assets-2025-09-08">Reuters reported</a>, court filings in Maricopa County indicate that Buskirk faced prolonged financial strain marked by repeated legal actions from various creditors. Between 2011 and 2015, he and his wife were named as defendants in an impressive 11 different lawsuits alleging unpaid bills, brought by a wide array of claimants that included former business associates, collection agencies, a dry-cleaning service, and other creditors.</p><p>Most of the cases moved forward without a response from the Buskirks. Records show that judgments were entered in at least 10 of the actions after no defense was filed. One exception occurred in 2011, when Buskirk disputed a claim connected to a solar panel business. Despite his denial, an arbitrator ruled against him and ordered him to pay $7,190.</p><p>However, Buskirk&#8217;s luck began to change once he came to the attention of our favorite vampiric billionaire.</p><p>It should be noted that Buskirk attended Claremont/McKenna College and is deeply tied into the Claremont network (Thiel&#8217;s favorite neoconservative think tank). Thus it is likely it was these connections that gave him access to Thiel, access that paid off significantly for him in the form of a lucrative contract for one of his businesses with a Thiel-backed company, which Thiel poured millions of dollars into. </p><p>As an aside, the way a lot of money tends to flow through the greater Thiel ecosystem is via various kinds of &#8216;consulting&#8217; contracts. These are frequently little more than open kick backs for people who he&#8217;s trying to reward/promote/payoff but since he can claim he is merely exchanging cash for services in the form of &#8216;consulting&#8217; (which can basically mean almost anything) he&#8217;s in the clear. </p><p>Of course, sometimes there is some kind of real work being done, but just as often it&#8217;s some kind of nonsense (writing a &#8216;research paper&#8217; for 20 thousand dollars, etc.) and just a way for the network to funnel cash to people it&#8217;s trying to promote and/or pay back. </p><p>In 2016 Buskirk decided to launch <em>American Greatness</em> (a publication most people who read conservative media regularly have likely encountered at some point in the past decade). He has since gone on to write mostly bland and forgettable pro-Trump pieces at various outlets, including The Washington Post and The New York Times. </p><p>Once again, a large amount of the funding for <em>American Greatness</em> came from Thiel. In addition, Buskirk&#8217;s companies would go on to profit from various services allegedly rendered to Blake Masters during his ill-fated Senate run as well as rake in millions more for various other types of political consulting. </p><p>Speaking of Masters, he would go on to also serve on the board of 1789 Capital. Needless to say, Buskirk is a Thieloid through and through, and 1789 Capital exists largely as an extension of Thiel&#8217;s own interests. </p><h3>The Rockbridge Network: The Formal Apparatus of Thieloid Power in Action</h3><p>Buskirk wouldn&#8217;t stop there, however. He would also go on to be a key figure in forming the &#8216;Rockbridge Network,&#8217; which has since gone on to become the formal locus of Thiel&#8217;s formal political nerve center. </p><p>In many ways this makes Rockbridge somewhat unique because, while still as secretive and obscurantist as possible, it gives us a look at a more formal political Thielworld structure. Often, Thiel tends to avoid these kinds of formalities and much prefers to funnel funds indirectly through runarounds and proxies; in this way, much of his empire functions like an old-style mafia one would. This is what makes Rockbridge so interesting, as it gives us a unique window into high-level Thiel world operations that would otherwise be obscured.</p><p>What we see in Rockbridge is a conscious attempt on Thiel&#8217;s part to reorganize the conservative media and fundraising ecosystem to make it amenable to his various aims. In particular, it appears to serve as the primary &#8216;battlestation&#8217; with which he has promoted JD Vance&#8217;s political career and attempted to reengineer the infrastructure of the American conservative movement itself.</p><p>Rockbridge was founded in 2019 by Vance and Buskirk and was named after the town where the meeting of its founders first took place: Rockbridge, Ohio. The purpose of the meeting was simple: lay the foundations of a new political network on the right that would function in the same way the Soros network had operated on the left while helping to form a political coalition that could ensure that they maintained political control of the United States for decades. This includes, of course, ensuring that Vance becomes the nominee for the GOP in 2028 and then subsequently wins the presidency in 2028. </p><p>The meeting itself was convened by Thiel and Vance; at the time Vance was merely a rising Thieloid best known for his memoir &#8220;Hillbilly Elegy.&#8221; Other notable figures at the meeting were Rebekah Mercer, Buskirk, Oren Cass, and Tucker Carlson (surprise!).</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>Rockbridge has assembled pollsters, data analysts, online advertising teams, and even a documentary film arm. It has built a voter database drawn from nonpolitical affiliations such as churches and outdoors groups. The goal, as Buskirk described during <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2025/11/04/chris-buskirk-maga-vance-post-trump/">an interview</a> with the Washington Post (in what remains the best-reported piece on Rockbridge to date), was simple: create a new American aristocracy with which to promote the Thiel agenda long-term as well as building a new political coalition designed to keep Vance (Thiel) in power for decades.</p><p></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Tu1O!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fff2bdd83-1e72-4e0e-ac8e-612f4f5a3a77_1298x860.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Tu1O!, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/w_424, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/c_limit, 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y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>*For reference, I&#8217;m going to put a brief list of individuals that we know (as revealed in the Washington Post piece) are involved with Rockbridge as a footnote. This is not an exhaustive list in any way and is, as they say, merely the &#8216;tip of the iceberg.&#8217;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a></p><h3><strong>Tucker&#8217;s Thielworld Double Game</strong></h3><p>So as we can see, Tucker is quite connected within the greater Thiel world nexus, particularly through Vance. The question, naturally, is how exactly he is allowed to traffic in ideas that appear, at least on the surface, to be in open opposition to the Thieloid/GSF agenda. After all, Tucker has been one of the most vocal opponents of interventionist U.S. foreign policy and has given relatively positive coverage to governments that have opposed the U.S. for various reasons and are thus perceived as U.S. enemies, such as Russia and Iran. In addition, he has also become perhaps the highest-profile critic of Israel in the American media ecosystem.</p><p>One would think this would especially be a problem for Thiel, seeing as much of his wealth and influence is the product of his various ventures with the U.S. deep state, in particular Palantir. A company that has had deep ties with both Ukraine and the state of Israel and has had numerous lucrative contracts with both entities, to say nothing of its other arrangements with the CIA and its various cutouts. In addition, the rhetoric cuts against much of the pro-Palantir, Pro-Israel Claremont/BAPsphere party line.</p><p>However, the truth is a bit more complex than this somewhat superficial reading of the situation. For starters, both men benefit from this arrangement. </p><p>For Thiel the upsides to having a behind-the-scenes alliance with Carlson are obvious. The MAGA base, at least in the near and medium term, is always going to have a significant element within it that is somewhat &#8216;isolationist&#8217; in nature. It does you little good to fight against this head-on in the style of, say, a Ben Shapiro or Mark Levin; you&#8217;re going to convince no one and do little more than sow discord among the very base you need to continue winning elections. The better move for Thiel is simply to own this faction (or at least its most important influencer) via an alliance with Carlson. </p><p>As if you can&#8217;t talk a faction out of taking a line that is harmful to your interests, you <em>can</em> offer that faction a way to harmlessly vent its &#8216;negative&#8217; energies while still helping to achieve your ultimate goals. Thiel has only a secondary ideological and financial interest in waging wars on non-liberal governments like those in Russia, Iran, and Venezuela and thus tends to be more comfortable with those in the greater MAGA coalition breaking ranks on those issues; to some extent, this is also even true of Israel. However, the one point of unanimity that it is advisable those in the movement do not cross is general opposition to China and support of a U.S. buildup to &#8216;deter&#8217; (provoke?) a potential Chinese invasion of Taiwan. </p><p>Opposing China is one of Thiel&#8217;s genuine obsessions; it also happens to be the primary way in which he and his faction are set to obtain an almost unfathomable amount of money and power in the coming years via obscene and essentially permanent defense contracts. In this sense it is somewhat non-negotiable for him; it <em>must</em> <em>happen</em>. Hence the convenience of figures like Elbridge Colby, who just so happen to be uncritically promoted by every major influencer and coalition within the greater Thielverse. Colby, who preaches the necessity of preparing for an all-out war with China in defense of Taiwan (but from a strictly realist perspective, you see, not like those bad neocons!) and preaches subordinating all other U.S. foreign policy concerns to this goal, is the gold standard in what Thiel desires from American foreign policy going forward. </p><p>Meanwhile, the various grades of dangerous imbeciles that comprise the Claremont Institute are also fervent supporters of Colbyism, seeing a potential drawn-out war with China as a way to reinvigorate American virtue after years of progressive &#8216;decadence&#8217; and &#8216;decay.&#8217; </p><p>And it is for this reason that Thiel and his network are absolutely thrilled to ally with Carlson, even if he occasionally clashes with other members of the coalition over peripheral issues (a few good-spirited intramural debates never hurt anyone! ). </p><p>None of Tucker&#8217;s sound and fury matters so long as he brings his fans along with him to vote for Vance in 2028, which is what really counts to Thiel. In the meantime, Tucker can do whatever he likes for the most part; he can insist that Netanyahu is boiling white children alive in Tel Aviv and wearing their skin, he can discuss the fate of the USS Liberty and question the true efficiency of German ovens, he can sell autographed copies of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion to his audience for $39.99. It doesn&#8217;t matter so long as he is on Team Vance in 2028 and brings his audience with him.</p><p>It should be noted that Thiel has done the same thing with other figures who have similar views to Tucker on most issues; nevertheless, he still appears to want them on his team. </p><h3>Fellow Travelers</h3><p>For instance, Curt Mills, who now runs <em>The American Conservative</em> (having &#8220;disposed of&#8221; its former editor), constantly expresses views seemingly at odds with the Palantir company line. He is an outspoken opponent of any and all attacks on traditional U.S. enemies like Iran, Venezuela, and Russia. In Mills&#8217; view all of these interventions are at the very least problematic, if not downright dangerous for the United States. However, there is one foreign entanglement that Mills is all too eager to get involved in, and that&#8217;s the defense of Taiwan against the forces of Communist China! Here Mills, head of the most prominent American journal of isolationism, sounds like a proper Bush-era neocon. Mills <a href="https://www.theamericanconservative.com/taiwan-an-actual-munich-moment">compares</a> the territorial claims of China over Taiwan to the reasoning of Adolf Hitler while backing American intervention to defend the island at all costs. </p><p>Perhaps this is the reason why Mills was hired by Thiel Capital for several years before he was installed in the top job at the American Conservative. This is a fact that he is not particularly fond of disclosing, and yet it is one that appears to be true. As an aside, it&#8217;s strange that seemingly no one has ever pressed Mills about this and this has never been reported out (well, until now), as it seems like the most obvious conflict of interest imaginable.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QTJh!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feade6ff7-25e0-46c3-9acb-17a0c3a8ff2d_1618x914.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QTJh!, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/w_424, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/q_auto:good, 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/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2369f044-d57f-46fe-96f5-403638db935a_2202x184.png 1272w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tc4f!, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/w_1456, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2369f044-d57f-46fe-96f5-403638db935a_2202x184.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>But returning to Tucker.</p><p>Tucker&#8217;s motivations would seem more complicated and potentially confusing than Thiel&#8217;s on the surface, but in reality they are quite straightforward. </p><p>Carlson is a wealthy man from his years in media and could have retired years ago to a life of ease if he had so chosen. Of course this isn&#8217;t what happened, and it&#8217;s not surprising that it didn&#8217;t. It must be remembered that Tucker is entirely a creature of the Washington political media scene and has spent almost his entire adult life within it. This is something that is hard to quit; aside from the other perks, the access to genuine power is something most find they simply cannot give up.  It&#8217;s a drug that endows their life with meaning and purpose, something they are very unlikely to ever find anywhere else. Thus, most people are never able to really give it up, much less someone who had reached the heights that Carlson has (I&#8217;m sure the ghastly visage of Bill O&#8217;Reilly and his ignoble fate haunt his dreams on a regular basis).</p><p>Hence the reason why he has stuck with Trump in spite of having very real tensions with him, going so far as to say, without irony, that he &#8216;hated&#8217; him in the wake of January 6th. And this is the very same reason he backs Vance; it gives not only himself but also his son (who serves on Vance&#8217;s staff) a &#8216;voice&#8217; in the halls of power and a ticket to continued relevance (arguably the only things Tucker actually believes in).</p><h3>Nick Fuentes: The Next Charlie Kirk? Or the Next Charlie Kirk?</h3><p>Now that we have explained a bit of the backstory, we can now discuss exactly what went down between Fuentes and Carlson. </p><p>As anyone who watched it knows, the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efBB0D4tf1Y">interview itself</a> was quite strange, even by Tucker&#8217;s standards. Care was obviously being paid by Tucker to 1) not offend Fuentes by presenting him in the best possible light to his audience, and 2) give Fuentes a path to water down his views and thus make them presentable to a wider conservative audience without making it too obvious that he was abandoning his former beliefs in exchange for wider fame and fortune.</p><p>It&#8217;s, unclear exactly what happened after this, however. There was, of course, the storm in a teacup over Tucker platforming Fuentes, with the usual people saying the usual things that didn&#8217;t amount to too much, per usual. </p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>However, it does appear that the rapprochement between the two figures ended poorly, as Fuentes himself discussed in a video a bit after their initial interview:</p><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;00e4517c-7040-49d6-b198-01fe89d9a631&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><p>&#8220;So yea Tucker asked me a lot of weird stuff, he asked me about Charles Johnson, he asked me about Andrew Anglin, asked me about Peter Thiel&#8230;And this guy, I&#8217;ve heard things about this guy since the dinner, I want this guy to stay the fuck away from me. I dunno who he is, but I&#8217;ll tell you one thing: he is not who he says he is&#8230;If anything happens to me, whatever, take that to the bank. This guys is not who he says he is, total faker, I could smell it on his breath. I have never met a faker human being in my life, and it&#8217;s scary. Cause he&#8217;s an actor&#8230;He&#8217;s a handler, he handles people, that&#8217;s what he does. He&#8217;s a fucking liar and a handler&#8230;&#8221; Fuentes said. </p><p>Needless to say, it appears whatever deal was offered to Fuentes by Tucker, whether implicitly or explicitly, has, at least for now, been turned down. How long this will be the case remains to be seen, however. </p><p>Fuentes is a strange figure, a talented and charismatic communicator with a rabid and expanding fan base; he has thrived in the age of streaming. Somewhat unsurprisingly, his own positions are rife with outright contradictions (attempting to be both a Catholic and a White Nationalist, an American Imperialist and also a critic of &#8216;Neocon&#8217; foreign policy, a Catholic Nationalist in a historically Anglo nation, etc.). He has come surprisingly far for a provincial and has now found himself feeling around the edges of some profound force he does not understand, like some doomed Lovecraftian protagonist.</p><p>He has found himself butting up against the Thielverse (that is to say, Gay Space Fascism), with its sprawling labyrinth-like corridors and seemingly endless lines of influence and duplicity, a force that he does not fully understand even if he does intuit the primordial danger it poses to him. As he observed in another post-interview reflection:</p><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;0d13ba65-7505-4209-9216-1cf8432347af&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><p>&#8220;Let me tell you this, before they kill me, before JD Vance and Peter Thiel have me killed for telling the real truth. Let me just say this before I get killed or taken out someway.&#8221; Fuentes stated. &#8220;These people are not trustworthy, okay? They&#8217;re not telling the truth. And I think they are maybe making some last ditch effort to placate my audience. &#8216;Let&#8217;s hear the guy out. Let&#8217;s hear the bastard out.&#8217; So that my audience is going to go and say &#8216;Oh Tucker&#8217;s dad didn&#8217;t run the CIA, oh JD Vance isn&#8217;t a creation of Peter Thiel, oh Peter Thiel&#8217;s great, seems great!&#8217; All that obsession with the anti-christ and, ya know, the dead boyfriend who fell from the window that seems totally legit. They&#8217;re trying to bring me on to earn the allegiance of the audience&#8230;&#8221; he concluded.</p><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;2c9c441a-1286-45c4-b60c-daef82402f21&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><p>In another interview, Fuentes details the extremely strange dinner he had with Tucker the night before the interview:</p><p>&#8220;&#8216;You took money from Peter Thiel,&#8217; that&#8217;s a real thing that he said to me. And I said &#8216;What? No, I didn&#8217;t take money from Peter Thiel,&#8217; he goes &#8216;Oh, okay I believe you.&#8217; I said, &#8216;Who&#8217;d you hear that from?&#8217; <strong>He goes, &#8216;Oh, he told me.&#8217;&#8221; </strong>Fuentes remarked.</p><p>Fuentes is not wrong to fear Vance and Thiel, but in particular Thiel. He has spent years working to build this influence network, the crown jewel of which is Vance himself and the path to potentially complete power, which is now within his grasp.</p><p>Fuentes presents a major problem for Thiel, and a very dangerous one at that, as the young, nihilistic, streaming-centric male audience he commands could be the difference between victory and defeat for Vance in 2028. For Thiel, this is an unacceptable potentiality. First, Thiel attempted to rub Fuentes out via his influencer network centered around the so-called BAP-sphere; however, after years of internecine online warfare, this largely failed, in the process exposing the waning potency of the very influencer network he had spent so much time and energy building up (who could have guessed that political pornography written in Nietzschean baby talk by an almost 50-year-old Jewish Romanian homosexual would fail to galvanize the youth of America?). </p><p>The next step was outreach, an attempt to bring Fuentes into the fold via Carlson&#8217;s interview, which was a kind of olive branch to Fuentes. An olive branch, it should be noted that was a follow up to a previous olive branch: Fuentes appearance on the Thiel aligned <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10NK8C9OQsI">Red Scare podcast</a> which had occurred just before his appearance on Tucker&#8217;s podcast. After all, he does have undeniable talent and could be reintroduced to polite society with a little bit of work and sanding down of his harder edges, all without alienating his valuable audience. Given enough time, he could hit the big time, figuratively becoming the next Charlie Kirk. </p><p>Personally I expect this is the decision he will make. It&#8217;s the rational choice; I expect that, after a bit more bitching and moaning, Fuentes will slowly change his tune. Many of his criticisms will stay, but at the end of the day he will tell his audience to pull the lever for Vance.</p><p>Of course, Fuentes could choose to once again turn down Thiel&#8217;s generous offers. A course of action fraught with many hazards, not the least of which being the likelihood of this resulting in Fuentes <em>literally</em> becoming the next Charlie Kirk.</p><p>Of course I cannot prove this. I cannot prove that Peter Thiel would have Fuentes assassinated for standing in the way of a Vance victory in 2028. This is not something I know for a fact or I can prove in any way. </p><p>What I do know for a fact, though, is that if Thiel was so inclined, he could have Fuentes killed. Not only could he have Fuentes killed, but he could do so easily. Thiel is not a normal person in any way. He has immense wealth, the scale of which is hard for a normal person to fathom. He does not think or act like a &#8216;normal person&#8217; and doesn&#8217;t view himself as being constrained by the same rules of fair play or morality that normal people are. In addition to his wealth, Thiel also has direct access to the most powerful people in the world, including both the Vice-President and President of the United States, among others. Thiel also has extensive ties to intelligence agencies and employs a significant number of expensive and highly trained bodyguards. Thus it would be nothing for him to arrange to have a White Nationalist streamer liquidated. And all of it would be done through layers and layers of insulation between himself and the act in question, utterly untraceable back to him and thus presenting essentially zero risk to himself. </p><p>In addition, Fuentes himself is extraordinarily vulnerable, particularly so in our new age of political violence. Fuentes, who <a href="https://www.wcia.com/crime/far-right-commentator-fuentes-claims-mahomet-homicide-suspect-attempted-assassination-against-him">narrowly escaped</a> a previous attempt on his life, still lives with his mother and doesn&#8217;t have the funds for the type of private security he would need to protect against even the very basic threats posed by his own celebrity. It is very likely he will face another attempt on his life in the next several years, and this is even without Thiel choosing to use his own kinetic option.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/p/fuentes-tucker-rockbridge-and-the?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/p/fuentes-tucker-rockbridge-and-the?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><p>Hence the likelihood that Fuentes will simply make the &#8216;right&#8217; choice and pull the lever for Vance. Of course, from his perspective, this might all seem like an 18-karat run of bad luck. But the truth is&#8230;</p><p>The game was rigged from the start.</p><p></p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><ul><li><p><strong>Peter Thiel:</strong>  co-convened the 2019 Rockbridge summit, funded Chris Buskirk&#8217;s media ventures, introduced Buskirk to J.D. Vance, and provided early and ongoing financial support for the network&#8217;s development.</p></li><li><p><strong>J.D. Vance:</strong> co-convened the original Rockbridge gathering with Thiel, collaborated closely with Buskirk in its early conceptual phase. And is the  political figure most consistently advanced by the network.</p></li><li><p><strong>Chris Buskirk</strong>: founder and operator of the Rockbridge Network. Runs its organizing strategy, coordinates its donor and data infrastructure, built affiliated business and political entities etc.</p></li><li><p><strong>Tucker Carlson:</strong> attended founding summit and later became a business partner within the ecosystem through a media company that received investment from Buskirk&#8217;s 1789 Capital.</p></li><li><p><strong>Rebekah Mercer: </strong>participated in the 2019 Rockbridge summit as a donor.</p></li><li><p><strong>Oren Cass:</strong> attended the founding meeting.</p></li><li><p><strong>Omeed Malik:</strong> is Buskirk&#8217;s business partner who co-founded 1789 Capital and hosted early political fundraisers connected to the network.</p></li><li><p><strong>Donald Trump Jr:</strong> became a partner at 1789 Capital and participates in the Rockbridge-adjacent business and political circuit.</p></li><li><p><strong>Elon Musk:</strong> Has companies which are held as investments by Buskirk&#8217;s venture firm.</p></li><li><p><strong>Scott Bessent</strong>: attended Rockbridge-related events in his capacity as a senior administration official.</p></li><li><p><strong>Tulsi Gabbard:</strong> attended Rockbridge conferences as Director of National Intelligence.</p></li><li><p><strong>Steve Witkoff:</strong> attended Rockbridge events in his role as a Middle East special envoy.</p></li><li><p><strong>Robert F. Kennedy Jr.:</strong> attended the opening of Executive Branch and is described as a friend of Buskirk within the broader network.</p></li><li><p><strong>Blake Masters:</strong> attended the original Rockbridge summit and articulated the group&#8217;s early concerns about organizational decay on the political right.</p></li><li><p><strong>Marc Andreessen</strong>: became a member of the Rockbridge Network after the 2024 election.</p></li><li><p><strong>David Sacks</strong>: joined Rockbridge as a member.</p></li></ul><p></p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Why the Libs Can't Save You From Curtis Yarvin]]></title><description><![CDATA[On the True Significance of Thiel's Favorite Propagandist...]]></description><link>https://postscript1794.substack.com/p/why-the-libs-cant-save-your-from</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://postscript1794.substack.com/p/why-the-libs-cant-save-your-from</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan Cioran]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2025 21:44:10 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Stui!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4ef69127-ae01-4d3e-9f39-3338c83f851e_1388x1102.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Stui!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4ef69127-ae01-4d3e-9f39-3338c83f851e_1388x1102.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Stui!, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/w_424, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/q_auto:good, 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y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><span class="mention-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Curtis Yarvin&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:8351821,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/968fcb6a-b557-4344-8c45-fcab5961e17e_329x387.png&quot;,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;cda22596-f50f-453a-a5aa-abaf8bc36a85&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span> went to Brown. Did you know that? Because he&#8217;s very eager that you know this fact about him. Judging by how often he mentions it, you&#8217;d think it was the most important thing about him. He is very proud of it. Curtis is not like other people, you see; he&#8217;s different, gifted, special, <em>precious </em>even<em>.</em> </p><p>If you talk to him in person, he will explain this to you at length and in great detail. Also there is a good chance, if you engage in even a minimal amount of flattery, he will imply that you too are special, not unlike himself in fact! He might even extend this further and say that you are also what he believes himself to be: a member of the &#8216;elite,&#8217; but not just any elite, an elite within an elite! A &#8216;<em>dark</em> elf,&#8217; one might even say! Someone who went to say&#8230;Brown (a fact which can&#8217;t be emphasized enough), so as to be very, very smart and schooled in the ways of the coastal elites but also enlightened and interesting enough to be a bit bad, a bit out of control even, to be a rebel who wears a leather jacket and maybe even indulges in a bit of racism now and then.</p><p>Curtis&#8217;s comically unself-aware narcissism aside, there is a deeper and more interesting point here, I think, and it&#8217;s worth emphasizing and reiterating, as it ties in to one of the foundational aspects of what we here call <a href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/p/how-gay-space-fascism-won-the-future">&#8216;Gay Space Fascism.&#8217; </a> </p><p>Curtis has written many, many words, well into the tens of millions. His work is sometimes interesting, sometimes amusing, but overall it&#8217;s mostly nonsense. Put another way: his corpus is far less than the sum of its parts. I had originally intended on writing something approaching a comprehensive profile of Yarvin and his work; however, I then quickly thought better of it, as I just don&#8217;t find it that interesting at this point and, in all probability, neither do you. </p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>What matters now is pinpointing and explaining the ideas (or, as I will contend, the &#8216;idea&#8217;) that have actually been meaningfully influential from his corpus. Sure, there is &#8216;neocameralism,&#8217; &#8216;the Cathedral,&#8217; and &#8216;RAGE,&#8217; the latter two actually having some genuine semblance of influence on the real world (which, tbf, is a lot more than most mid-aughts bloggers can claim) even if &#8216;the Cathedral&#8217; merely became another term for &#8216;The Libs&#8217; and &#8216;RAGE&#8217; turned out to be a comical disaster in practice via Elon Musk&#8217;s ill-fated DOGE project. But aside from these ideas, which are now little more than worn-out meme concepts that last felt genuinely new and relevant about 10 years ago, little from the &#8216;unqualified reservations&#8217; era of Yarvin&#8217;s work has any impact today. </p><p>Rather, it is Curtis&#8217;s latest incarnation as an &#8216;out&#8217; public activist for GSF and more general Thielism that is actually producing the more lasting impact. This reemergence has been aided by the fact that he now has access to a significant network of Thiel-aligned allies in new media who have helped him spread his ideas and raise his prominence to the point that he is now directly pitching to the listeners of New York Times podcasts and speaking at events at Harvard. </p><p>In this new incarnation Curtis, naturally, still spouts a lot of drivel and nonsense; however, he also has been hitting an important note over and over again, in the process helping to defend an indispensable pillar of the mythos of Gay Space Fascism. Namely, a fixation with advocating for the establishment of a novel kind of caste system in the United States.</p><p>Now, to be fair, this kind of system is not really a new idea; it has existed for hundreds and hundreds of years in places like the Indian subcontinent. However, it is quite strange for anywhere in Europe or the United States, with the notable exception of Black chattel slavery in the Americas (and the Jim Crow era that followed it) in the 17th-20th centuries. </p><p>The idea is simple: <a href="https://www.unqualified-reservations.org/2007/05/castes-of-united-states">according to Curtis</a> there are different sorts, really &#8216;castes,&#8217; of people. And the differences between them, contra the claims of liberal universalism, are significant, significant enough that it would be not just unwise but, in a certain sense, even evil to force them to live, not just in the same neighborhoods or to have their children attend the same schools, but even for them to live by the same laws.</p><p>And the these distinctions aren&#8217;t merely manifestations of pure racism, which is something both liberals and many white nationalists consistently fail to understand about Gay Space Fascism. </p><p>The thing about IQ and other similar sorts of fashionable metrics is that there is far more distance within groups than between them. This is one of the things that makes the modern white nationalist obsession with IQ so strange and inherently clownish, as it ignores the fact that successful &#8216;high IQ&#8217; individuals ultimately have more in common with other successful &#8216;high IQ&#8217; individuals of various races than they do with low IQ members of their own race (I will have to circle back and do a deep dive on Thiel-aligned White nationalists sometime in the future, as they are one of the more buffoonish yet also contemptible factions in the greater GSF coalition).</p><p>Simply put, Yarvin (and Thieloids in general) is less concerned with the distinction between black, white, and brown than he is between &#8216;high and low,&#8217; between those who are &#8216;natural aristocrats&#8217; by nature (for which IQ is a handy yardstick) and the helot classes or &#8216;natural slaves.&#8217; And while due to inevitable statistical distributions, meaning that elites (who should be entitled to the natural rights of elites) will be produced by most groups, the differences between groups on average are significant enough that many, at least in Yarvin&#8217;s ideal state, would be governed by entirely different laws. As he explained during a discussion with <em><a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2025/06/09/curtis-yarvin-profile">The New Yorker</a></em>:</p><p>&#8220;Unless we can totally reengineer DNA to change what a human being is, there are many people who should not live in a modern way but in a traditional way,&#8221; Yarvin said. &#8220;And <em>that</em> is a level of revolution that is so far beyond anything the Trump-Vance regime is doing.&#8221;</p><p>Here Yarvin, consciously or not, is echoing Guillaume Faye, whom I discussed in the <a href="https://mereorthodoxy.com/gay-space-fascism">original primer on Gay Space Fascism</a>. To refresh, Faye articulates a new world (in his mind a utopia) in which the majority of humanity (say 90 percent or so) lives in a state of controlled primitivism, only ever being allowed to reach the technological level of, say, the Amish. While this means that they succumb to death and disease much sooner than most modern humans, it also allows them to live in a high-trust, non-atomized society, which will inevitably provide them with significantly more existential succor and personal fulfillment overall, or so Faye would argue at least. Meanwhile, the top five or ten percent of the population would live ensconced in high-tech pleasure cities, walled off from the rest of humanity and entirely free to pursue their Faustian destinies, however perverse or despicable they may seem to those of the old morality. </p><p>Essentially this is also what Yarvin desires, as can be deduced from numerous public statements and writings in which he says as much. The best example of this is obviously likely his infamous <a href="https://www.unqualified-reservations.org/2008/11/patchwork-2-profit-strategies-for-our">&#8216;biodiesel&#8217; blog post</a> in which he states that, in an ideal world, it would of course be ideal to turn the lower classes into &#8216;biodiesel&#8217; however seeing as it would be a political nonstarter it would be necessary to discover a &#8220;humane alternative to genocide.&#8221; </p><p>&#8220;A virtualized human is in permanent solitary confinement, waxed like a bee larva into a cell which is sealed except for emergencies.&#8221; Yarvin suggests &#8220;This would drive him insane, except that the cell contains an immersive virtual-reality interface which allows him to experience a rich, fulfilling life in a completely imaginary world.<sup>&#8221;</sup></p><p>He continues:</p><blockquote><p>I don&#8217;t think there is any scenario under which San Francisco is burdened with more than a few thousand wards. Many other regions of the earth, however, contain large numbers of human beings whose existence may well prove an unequivocal liability to the owners of any ground on which they would reside. If so, they can be virtualized, creating giant human <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Matrix">Wachowski honeycombs</a> of former bezonians, whose shantytowns can be cleared and redeveloped as villas for retired oil-company executives.</p></blockquote><p>In addition, I should add he also explained this to me in depth once in person, so it&#8217;s not exactly something he&#8217;s too shy about advertising. </p><p>This view also closely mirrors that of his good friend Costin Alamariu, <a href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/p/costin-alamarius-selective-breeding">who teaches</a> that freedom can only be experienced by a small aristocracy of masters, for it is only such higher beings for whom philosophy, freedom, and ultimately consciousness itself have any real value.</p><p>Though Yarvin himself lacks the intelligence and eloquence to argue this case in the same manner as Alamariu, his body of work along with repeated explicit statements in this regard show he obviously agrees with this assessment even if his understanding of it would be highly reductive in comparison to Alamariu&#8217;s. </p><p>In place of Costin&#8217;s vision of a modern-day Alcibiades, a cunning and beautiful beast overflowing with daring and unapologetic zest for life and domination, Yarvin proffers the vision of a new ruling caste of meritocratic bugmen. In this sense he is merely extending the internal logic of post-war neoliberalism to its necessary endpoint. </p><p>This vision constitutes Yarvin&#8217;s &#8216;scam&#8221; (for which he has always been the first mark), the idea that such individuals constitute a neo-aristocracy destined to come to power, in the process granting them the prestige and recognition they feel has been unjustly denied them under the current liberal system.</p><p>It is this same scam that he hawks to his impressed (or simply bewildered) listeners during his regular social junkets in Dimes Square, D.C., and the Bay Area. It is a delusion that even a child could see through, yet it is also one that has allowed Yarvin, in large part of course due to his close connection with Thiel and his network, to flourish and gain the notoriety and microcelebrity status he so obviously covets.</p><p>It is also this vision that Thiel finds most valuable about his &#8216;thought,&#8217; the concept of a caste of individuals biologically destined to rule, and one not cluttered and weighed down by the archaic obligations and traditions of the European aristocracy of old. Traditions and obligations, largely Christian in origin, which prevented the natural nobility from achieving its true telos, that of predator and unapologetic exploiter of the weak. Whereas the European ancien regime, originally wolves, had slowly degenerated into sheepdogs under the weight of Christian slave morality, the neo-aristocracy of the 21st century will be allowed to properly fulfill itself and &#8216;become what it is&#8217;: <a href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/p/costin-alamarius-selective-breeding">a vampire elite. </a></p><p>Most tantalizing of all is that new technology, the kind now eagerly funded and promoted by Thiel and his network, will, at least in theory, allow for the active cultivation of desirable traits in this new biological caste. An endeavor no longer subject to the whims of chance and misfortune, which had hamstrung previous ruling classes who so often ended up falling victim to the vagaries of natural reproduction.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>As Yarvin let slip only a few days ago during <a href="https://youtu.be/MnjMptVk5fU?si=ESle1_sJFmpdXU0c&amp;t=1234">a debate</a> with British historian David Starkey, &#8220;Now there are flaws in hereditary monarchy certainly as well. I would note that a lot of the problems historically in hereditary monarchy came through, uh, the vagaries of biological inheritance, and, uh, we now have, um, the <strong>ability to, uh, create as many babies as we want, uh, you know, essentially, and even to IQ test them before they&#8217;re born. </strong>Um,<strong> </strong>we can IQ test embryos now, uh, which is insane, and, um, it&#8217;s a pity it wasn&#8217;t available slightly earlier in the English succession.&#8221;</p><p>This is the crux, the beginning and the end of Gay Space Fascism as such. And it is <em>only</em> to the extent that Yarvin promotes this concept, in the process serving Thiel&#8217;s greater purpose, that he is significant at all. </p><p>And it is here that we must now confront a truly disquieting realization: there is nothing in the liberal tradition capable of truly combating Yarvin (who is merely a stand-in here for Thiel himself) on this point, as the conclusions he draws naturally flow out of the internal logic of classic meritocratic liberalism itself. </p><p>After all, what is really the difference between the support of rule by unelected &#8216;experts&#8217; in a liberal bureaucratic state and the rule of a genetically superior caste of human beings bred and raised to be rulers? You wouldn&#8217;t want an unqualified person flying an airplane for you or performing an operation on you, so why would you then allow them to write your laws? In a not dissimilar vein, once genetic manipulation is allowed to enter into a meritocratic system, does this not inevitably lead to it becoming an aristocracy of sorts, barring some kind of radical communist takeover? As now not only will winners of the meritocratic rat race pass wealth on to their children, a fact that was already a source of discontent, but now they will also be able to ensure their children also have superior genes to boot all but ensuring their continued reign atop the social pyramid.</p><p>In this sense they are merely &#8216;completing the system&#8217; of liberal meritocracy, and in this way GSF is not necessarily a pure negation of liberalism&#8217;s highest ambitions and conceits but, in a very peculiar wary, rather a kind of fulfillment of them (it should be noted that there was a reason the most earnest of early 20th-century American eugenicists were all dyed-in-the-wool progressives).</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/p/why-the-libs-cant-save-your-from?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/p/why-the-libs-cant-save-your-from?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><p>The advent of this age&#8217;s new powerful and <a href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/p/how-orchids-designer-babies-will">inherently foul genetic technology</a> has now forced the question that before was allowed to lie dormant. And those of us wishing to remain human will have to look toward other traditions, mostly forgotten, if we are to have half a chance of answering it before it is too late. </p><p>Traditions, as it happens, that have extremely clear instructions when it comes to dealing with vampires. And prescribe as cure, not the <a href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/p/ross-douthats-interview-with-the">giving of interviews</a>&#8230;but the driving of stakes through hearts.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Assassination of Charlie Kirk and the Coming Palantirization of America]]></title><description><![CDATA[A New Age of Political Violence Has Dawned, Will Thiel be the Biggest Winner?]]></description><link>https://postscript1794.substack.com/p/the-assassination-of-charlie-kirk</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://postscript1794.substack.com/p/the-assassination-of-charlie-kirk</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan Cioran]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2025 13:12:02 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rZcz!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7ce026b0-48c9-4630-9772-960c0d069c6f_1406x934.png" length="0" 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y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p></p><p>Charlie Kirk&#8217;s death was uniquely horrific.</p><p>I had the misfortune of seeing the &#8216;up-close&#8217; video of it only minutes after the event itself, and it ranks as one of the worst and most graphic things I&#8217;ve ever seen online, and I say this as a LiveLeak veteran. </p><p>Of course, this is not the first time in American history someone this famous has been killed by an assassin; it&#8217;s also not the first time someone has been killed on camera and in HD. However, it is the first time someone this famous has been killed on camera and in HD, and because of that, the societal repercussions of this are going to be widespread and, I&#8217;m afraid, quite awful. </p><h2><strong>America&#8217;s Political Celebrities Are Extraordinarily Vulnerable</strong></h2><p>There are some ideas that, in retrospect, seem obvious; however, they certainly don&#8217;t seem that way at the time. Something as simple as &#8216;the wheel&#8217; seems pretty obvious to us now, but it didn&#8217;t to our ancestors for tens of thousands of years (and not because they were stupid). </p><p>Sometimes things just &#8216;click,&#8217; first at the individual level and then at the societal level. Even spookier, sometimes they &#8216;click&#8217; at the same time in geographically distant places that have no direct connection with one another (such as what happened with the discovery of calculus, for instance).</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>The same thing frequently happens when it comes to more violent pursuits. We now know that skyscrapers are extremely vulnerable to being rammed by hijacked jetliners traveling at high speeds through the sky, but people in the 90s didn&#8217;t. Someone had to think of that and then execute it<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a>. Thanks to Wednesday&#8217;s events, the entire world has now realized just how vulnerable America&#8217;s political celebrities really are. </p><p>This will be somewhat obvious to people who have spent any meaningful amount of time in, say, Washington, D.C. A place where it is not uncommon to see extraordinarily famous people, say, going to the grocery store or eating at a restaurant or giving a talk about their latest book without too much fanfare, and nine times out of ten they have absolutely no security with them. It was thus only a matter of time before the rest of the country figured this out. </p><p>As I noted in my most recent <a href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/p/how-orchids-designer-babies-will">piece on Orchid</a>, since at least Columbine, much of America&#8217;s propensity for nihilist violence has been focused on producing what have become known as &#8216;mass shootings&#8217;; however, I think it&#8217;s now quite obvious that this trend has now finally run its course. Incidences of actual mass shootings have been ticking down in recent years (although obviously they still do happen and are gruesome when they do). Part of this is due to the fad simply burning out, like any other fad, and part of it is due to a more profound shift in the zeitgeist. </p><p>The mass shooting was a uniquely American product and came about smack dab in the middle of the &#8216;end of history,&#8217; an age that continued on, oddly enough, through the GWOT and didn&#8217;t really start to really fully end until sometime after 2020 (though one could say it began to end as early as 2014). Regardless, this was the age of &#8216;nothing mattering,&#8217; when people didn&#8217;t really have political opinions in any meaningful sense (at least compared to today), a time when most people&#8217;s biggest concern was, say, seeing their favorite band, something that many attempted to construct entire identities around. Hence why it was the perfect era for the emergence and persistence of meaningless, nihilistic violence in the form of the &#8216;mass shooting.&#8217;</p><p>That age is now over, or at the very least, coming to an end. Of course, America still is the world leader in producing violent lunatics, freaks, and perverts of all varieties (one of the few industries in which we still remain &#8216;number one&#8217;). Theories of the greater zeitgeist aside, the simple fact is that currently the ROI on mass shootings is simply not what it used to be. The all-time high &#8216;score&#8217; is simply unrealistic to even try to attain at this point, and due to their frequency and general dullness to the public, the names of mass shooters are now generally quickly forgotten. By contrast, someone like Luigi Mangione is extraordinarily famous, as will be whoever it is that murdered Charlie Kirk when they finally catch him. In fact such a person, in addition to being quite famous, will also have the ability to, not without some merit, claim to have potentially changed history. Hence why we are almost certain to see a rash of copycats, and this is to say nothing of the greater shitlib vs. MAGA ideological and political battle. </p><h3><strong>Who Benefits?</strong></h3><p>For the record, I do not think Charlie was killed by the Israelis, or the Russians, or the Ukrainians, or by any other genuinely organized conspiracy of any kind. While his killer may have had some basic training from the military or simply his local range, I do not believe he was a &#8216;professional.&#8217; In fact, I suspect he was probably some kind of local who was primarily motivated by a combination of shitlib politics and a desire for fame.</p><p>Still, there are people who are going to benefit from this, I&#8217;m sorry to say. And the one person who is set to benefit from this the most is Peter Thiel. This may seem to be somewhat counterintuitive (while also being obvious), as few people are more afraid of death than Thiel is, and he is a high-profile figure who frequently does public events and is also at a very high risk of assassination. Furthermore, Thiel&#8217;s entire project of <a href="https://mereorthodoxy.com/gay-space-fascism">GSF</a> would likely end as we know it if he were to be killed. It&#8217;s simply too idiosyncratic and personality-based to do anything but shatter under such circumstances, and Thiel has no heir apparent of any sort. </p><p>However, what Thiel does have is an immense fortune, and one that continues to grow at a significant and constant rate. Thus, unlike less fortunate political celebrities of modest means, he has the ability to avail himself of near-presidential levels of private security, something he is almost certain to now do in the wake of Kirk&#8217;s murder (Palantir CEO Alex Karp has had extensive security for years due to his own fear of assassination). Thus, he is now beyond the reach of the vast majority of would-be assassins. </p><p>In addition, and just as importantly, it is now a nigh certainty that Thiel&#8217;s companies will see a huge boost from this, as it&#8217;s one thing to go into an elementary school and slaughter a classroom full of first graders, but it&#8217;s entirely another thing to try and touch a political celebrity! </p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/p/the-assassination-of-charlie-kirk?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/p/the-assassination-of-charlie-kirk?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><p>America&#8217;s elites, now for the first time in a long time being directly targeted, will undoubtedly turn to Palantir and its various offshoots for solutions. In particular, for its AI-driven surveillance tools, which will be radically expanded across the country in an attempt to stop this new tide of violence. This turn of events will be almost impossible to stop, wrapped as it will be in Kirk&#8217;s bloody shirt. </p><p>We, all of us, are far too late&#8230;</p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>An interesting aside: Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold fantasized in their journals about ramming a hijacked plane into an NYC skyscraper two years before the events of 9/11; call it the &#8216;spirit of an age,&#8217; perhaps</p><p></p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[How Orchid's Designer Babies Will Create a World Far Worse Than 'Gattaca' Ever Imagined]]></title><description><![CDATA[The 'Tall Trees' Will be Cut Down, Whether They Like it or Not...]]></description><link>https://postscript1794.substack.com/p/how-orchids-designer-babies-will</link><guid 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This time he dipped his toe into the GSF discourse by interviewing the head of one of the more notorious genetic screening companies to pop up in recent years: Orchid Biosciences. </p><p>A company founded by Noor Siddiqui, a woman on a mission to mainstream the practice of genetic screening of IVF embryos prior to implantation. To create a world <a href="https://x.com/noor_siddiqui_/status/1907179008414064947">where</a>, in her words, &#8220;<em>Sex</em> is for fun, and embryo screening is for babies.&#8221; </p><p>Somewhat unsurprisingly, Siddiqui got her start as a Thiel fellow and founded Orchid soon after (which Thiel has <a href="https://x.com/McCormackJohn/status/1931078485608730783">directly invested</a> in). In addition, Orchid has <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2025/07/16/orchid-polygenic-screening-embryos-fertility">reportedly </a>been used to screen at least one of Elon Musk&#8217;s four children with his favored concubine Shivon Zilis (it is genuinely unclear to me what else one can describe her as at this point), and they are just getting started. </p><p>What Orchid does, in a nutshell, is the eugenic ranking of a customer&#8217;s lab-created embryos using a &#8216;score&#8217; created by the company to help predict their likelihood to develop certain diseases as well as a host of other genetic traits, including IQ. Thus, while the tech thus far does not allow Orchid to directly &#8216;edit&#8217; a particular embryo, it offers customers the ability to choose the &#8216;fittest&#8217; of any particular batch of embryos.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>Obviously, discovering this seems to have been most disturbing for our boy pundit, and he didn&#8217;t take it lying down. Instead, he launched into an hour-long discussion/debate with Siddiqui, at least 45 minutes of which was him engaging in various kinds of tedious hairsplitting about terminologies and moral grammars (such as the technical moral status of particular &#8216;embryos&#8217; and the acceptable methods of their demise), which almost no one outside the Beltway pro-life movement really finds compelling or interesting in any way. This is classic Douthat, who, as the Times&#8217; only house moral and religious conservative, has developed a characteristically awkward and janky debate style designed to carefully avoid directly addressing first-order moral disagreements in hopes of making headway on second- or third-order issues (where he hopes his liberal interlocutors may be more amenable to good old scholastic reason).</p><div id="youtube2-YAJMnZ8QkmY" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;YAJMnZ8QkmY&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/YAJMnZ8QkmY?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p>This has served him well as a columnist, a job I should say he excels at, and certainly helped him keep his job even during the height of woke mania; however, it is not a very good method to use when confronting duplicitous Gay Space Fascists like Siddiqui (who, intellectually speaking, are best understood as a kind of &#8216;predatory super liberal&#8217;). </p><p>Hence why I found it so maddening when he finally got to his only truly interesting question of the entire interview, the transparently dangerous societal consequences that will obviously follow closely in the wake of this tech, but was then forced to allow Siddiqui to get away with a profoundly unserious blow-off response due to lack of time. </p><p>But it is precisely this question&#8212;the question of the creation of a new explicit genetic caste system within the United States and its vassal states&#8212;that is urgent. The creation of which is a primary cultural and political goal of Thiel and his allies in the medium to long term, and, as we can see with Orchid and other Thiel-backed bioengineering startups, is currently taking place right now before our very eyes. </p><p>So let&#8217;s dive in and discuss exactly what the consequences of Thiel&#8217;s genetic revolution will be for the Western societies that will inevitably embrace it.</p><h3>&#8216;Gattaca&#8217; or Rwanda? Why the Latter Is Far More Likely Than the Former</h3><p>Inevitably when the societal consequences of gene editing and/or embryo selection are brought up, the fictional example that is almost always cited is &#8216;Gattaca.&#8217; If you haven&#8217;t seen the film, which is likely for many as it came out in the late 90&#8217;s, the story is simple as it attempts to portray the consequences of discrimination based upon one&#8217;s genetic status in a near future setting and the genetically imperfect protagonist&#8217;s attempt to overcome this reality. Though, to be honest, the story would have been a bit more intriguing (and funny) if the genetically &#8216;imperfect&#8217; protagonist would have been played by someone who looked more like, say, Steve Buscemi instead of Ethan Hawke, but I digress.</p><div id="youtube2-NIIZ2P-fiyI" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;NIIZ2P-fiyI&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/NIIZ2P-fiyI?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p>Regardless, the thing that struck out to me about Gattaca is how nice everything looks. I know it&#8217;s supposed to be giving off a sinister &#8216;too good to be true&#8217; or &#8216;what&#8217;s lurking under the surface of this thin veneer&#8217; vibe, but in many ways the society seems extremely attractive, especially in comparison to our own (even if it does suffer from poor lighting), if for no other reason than that it seems both orderly and futuristic at the same time. </p><p>If this is the future gene editing has in store for us, then maybe it won&#8217;t be so bad after all!</p><p>And of course, in a way, &#8216;Gattaca&#8217; is at least a rough approximation of the world the Thieloids want&#8212;a technologically advanced world with a strict genetic and social hierarchy (which they are, naturally, at the top of)&#8212;and in this sense the world portrayed in the film is quite optimistic. </p><p>However, it is also a somewhat absurd projection of the future given the current state of American society plus what the historical record shows us concerning the fate of past societies built upon strict genetic hierarchies (real or perceived).</p><p>Let&#8217;s first begin by going back and examining Siddiqui&#8217;s response to Douthat&#8217;s question regarding a potential &#8216;&#8217;Gattaca&#8217;-style future:</p><blockquote><p><strong>Douthat:</strong> $2,500 per embryo. If this technology works as well as you say it does, then you are essentially advancing toward a future where there will be a caste system in terms of how rich people versus poor people are genetically sculpting their offspring. Is your view that you are ushering in that kind of future? </p><p><strong>Siddiqui:</strong> No, I don&#8217;t think so. And I think that society fundamentally rejects that idea because it is fundamentally so disgusting. We&#8217;re moving toward a world where IVF itself is something that is going to hopefully be covered for everyone. It&#8217;s a really sad history, I think, for the last 40 years that rich people get to have babies, and poor people who can&#8217;t afford IVF don&#8217;t get to. That&#8217;s a fundamental human right that I think was violated, and I think it&#8217;s nice that we&#8217;re finally seeing steps toward that being corrected, where everyone will be able to have access to IVF.</p><p>In addition to that, hopefully we&#8217;ll be able to get access to screening technologies like Orchid. Because it spurs such moral outrage, this idea that something that would create such an advantage, such vastly different outcomes&#8212;I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s something that Americans will choose to only leave to the few that can afford it. I think it&#8217;s something that in the very near future, hopefully, we&#8217;ll be able to mobilize enough excitement around so that it&#8217;s something that&#8217;s going to be covered for everyone.</p><p><strong>Douthat:</strong> So essentially, you need a kind of socialism to avoid the genetic hierarchy, eugenic dystopia&#8212;</p><p><strong>Siddiqui:</strong>I think it&#8217;s just insurance coverage. I mean, it&#8217;s insurance coverage for a very nominal amount. We&#8217;re currently covering, in the last year of your life or the last two weeks of your life, extremely expensive life support machines and medical procedures that are extending your life by a few days.</p><p>I think that even today, with the money that we have, if we spent it more appropriately, if we spent it more in line with what people&#8217;s actual preferences are, we could already afford this for everyone in America today. It&#8217;s just a question of will. That&#8217;s why I&#8217;m so excited to talk to you&#8212;</p></blockquote><p>The thing to notice here, aside from her shameless bullshitting, is just how inherently juvenile her mental model of the outside world actually is. It is as if Douthat is having a conversation with a 12-year-old, and not a particularly bright one at that. </p><p>However, this assessment assumes she&#8217;s being sincere, something that is entirely unwarranted. Siddiqui is deep in the Thielverse, a place that is profoundly hostile to egalitarianism in almost any form, no less to the out-and-out socialism she pretends to advocate for in the interview. The entire mental model of the Thielverse, from seasteading to SpaceX to the Cybertruck to Palantir to genetic screening, is premised upon an inevitable and intractable conflict between the virtuous few and the envious (and dangerous) many. A war between Eloi and Morlock, in which the former, though outnumbered, can triumph through the application of superior technological forms of violence and control, thus maintaining and defending the higher forms of &#8216;aristocratic&#8217; life (the only kind worth living) from the threat posed by the envy and lust of the teeming masses. </p><p>Siddiqui knows this, hence why we can safely dismiss her socialist gesticulations as the smoke up the ass they actually are. Nevertheless, let&#8217;s try and take her claims somewhat seriously here, as such nonsense is also frequently parroted by other Thielworld propagandists (such as <span class="mention-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Based Camp | Simone &amp; Malcolm&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:320495,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff87ac93a-5b29-43bc-b597-6c69db5439bb_1024x1015.jpeg&quot;,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;8f362cb1-ff2f-40d0-81ea-1b386b53c49c&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span> ) when attempting to defend genetic embryo screening.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/p/how-orchids-designer-babies-will?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/p/how-orchids-designer-babies-will?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><p>Suffice to say, the conceit that some new kind of &#8216;socialist&#8217; redistribution, or even merely a more &#8216;market friendly&#8217; solution like the rising tide of lower prices via automation lifting all boats and thus eventually increasing access to the tech in question, is openly moronic and ridiculous.</p><p>Over the past several decades the cost of medical services in the United States, of all types, has gone up consistently and astronomically. This is not exactly a secret; it is also something that shows no signs of stopping in any kind of near- or medium-term future. In addition, merely having the service technically mandated for coverage via, say, a new regulation does not mean that the service becomes suddenly affordable, as there are many procedures and drugs that are technically &#8216;covered&#8217; under various health insurance plans but are still prohibitively expensive. </p><p>Again, this is all stupidly obvious, as is the fact that the US will not be adopting any kind of universal health care system in the next several decades, as the coming fiscal battles over existing entitlements, already projected to run out of funds by the early 2030s, are already set to be quite vicious and zero-sum.</p><p>However, all of this doesn&#8217;t really matter, as the inherent issue of the creation of a new genetic caste system remains whether or not some kind of socialized medical system suddenly snaps into existence tomorrow. The same basic set of issues remains. </p><p>There are a few reasons why this is the case:</p><ol><li><p>Natural conception will always be cheaper and easier than any and all IVF alternatives for the vast majority of people. This is another obvious fact; even if the cost of IVF and genetic screening were somehow reduced to zero overnight, this would not change the reality that it&#8217;s still far more work than the natural alternative. One has to go to a consultation (likely many consultations) and have uncomfortable discussions with people named things like &#8216;Noor Siddiqui&#8217;; one then also has to undergo egg retrieval (not exactly something that can really be described as painless or pleasant in any way), likely multiple times. One then has to also finally select a single embryo out of the dozens that were created based purely on the &#8216;genetic score&#8217; created by Orchid and companies like it. An endeavor that seems at least somewhat emotionally fraught, at least for the vast majority of non-psychopaths.</p></li><li><p>People who are willing to go through such an elaborate and stressful process (again, assuming the cost has somehow magically become zero) are going to skew to being a small subset of, generally speaking, neurotic upper-middle-class strivers. The kind of people who worry constantly about how to maximize their hypothetical future 1.5 children&#8217;s prospects of getting into Stanford and see a little gene editing as the best possible way of getting a head start on the competition. </p></li><li><p>While undoubtedly some individuals with a longstanding family history of certain types of genetic diseases will use genetic screening (whom it is impossible to not feel profound sympathy for), most will, in fact, be motivated by the aforementioned desire to give their children a step up in the ongoing meritocratic arms race. Furthermore, while this new dynamic will surely increase the overall rate of usage of genetic screening, particularly by the ever-striving upper middle class, it is also very likely to have an overall depressing effect on the national birthrate as a whole. As if it becomes common knowledge that in order for one&#8217;s children to have a shot at a decent life, one must undergo an invasive series of IVF treatments and genetic screenings, many of what we can term more &#8216;casual&#8217; would-be parents may just give up on the entire endeavor. After all, why bother bringing children into a world in which they will be doomed to be slaves due to the circumstances of their birth?</p></li><li><p>Perhaps the most important point: the entire aim of genetic screening is really the conferral of advantage. Thus, even if a certain &#8216;level&#8217; of screening were somehow made available free of charge to all Americans, a new level would immediately then need to be created. One that would be more expensive and more exclusive and claim to confer even greater genetic advantage on the purchaser. Whether it actually would confer this advantage for the child in question in 10 or 20 or 30 years is immaterial and ultimately doesn&#8217;t matter. What matters is that people will believe that it does and act accordingly.</p></li></ol><p>Thus, even in a magical future land of universal Thielcare, the emergence of a genetic caste system is all but inevitable, if for no other reason than that some (an upper-class minority) will choose to pursue genetic screening with abandon while a majority (the religious and the lower classes) will continue with traditional methods of reproduction. Left unchecked, this will develop into an explicitly two-tiered society in which a small number will lord over the many (in a way far more extreme and cruel than we witness in Western societies today, however &#8216;unequal&#8217; they may seem now) and use the narrative of their supposed innate genetic superiority to justify this state of affairs. A techno-genetic &#8216;mandate of heaven.&#8217;</p><p>And, as I alluded to previously, this is the future the Thieloids are preparing for: an all-powerful Palantir that can be used to constantly surveil and thus control the genetically inferior Morlock classes. Such technology will be a necessity for the societal future Thiel and his fellow travelers are pushing for, in which extreme genetic and financial inequalities are explicitly formalized. A situation commonly referred to as &#8216;Techno-Feudalism&#8217; or &#8216;Neo-Feudalism&#8217; but which we here simply refer to by its proper name: <a href="https://mereorthodoxy.com/gay-space-fascism">&#8216;Gay Space Fascism.&#8217; </a></p><p>However, it is unclear if such a scheme can actually work in the long run, or even the short run for that matter. </p><h3>Genetic Screening and the Problem of Societal Myth </h3><p>The real problem for the Gay Space Fascist vision, in the long term at least, is that there is no obvious compelling mythic narrative that will be able to morally justify the world they are creating. Of course, in Alex Karp&#8217;s ideal world, this doesn&#8217;t really matter, as the mouth breathers will simply be kept in line via the aggressive application of technological and kinetic force, the manifestation of which will persuade the vast majority of the foolishness of ever opposing the &#8216;strong horse.&#8217;</p><p>Now this all sounds very nice and &#8216;cool,&#8217; especially if you are an earnest young Thieloid or a variety of semi-moron tech investor imagining the glorious future you will soon be a part of. However, it will likely remain largely a fantasy, at least when it comes to actually maintaining societal order and cohesion in the long run. </p><p>This vision hasn&#8217;t even really worked in Gaza, the most bombed and surveilled open-air prison on earth, and it certainly isn&#8217;t going to work in the United States, a place infinitely larger and far more culturally anarchic than anywhere in the Gaza Strip. Hence why even a seemingly more benign attempt at technological control (at least compared to the situation in Gaza), such as an American version of the Chinese surveillance state, also will likely fail: the cultural, legal, and historical preconditions required for its success simply don&#8217;t exist here.</p><p>One of Plato&#8217;s most famous insights from <em>The Republic</em> is that of the &#8216;Myth of the Metals,&#8217; i.e., that social stratification, while necessary, also must be justified via an appeal to a noble lie. A narrative structure that can justify and contextualize vast inequalities for those experiencing them.</p><p>Most societies throughout history, especially pre-modern ones, have had some form of this (the Divine Right of Kings, etc.). The United States today also has this kind of myth: the myth of meritocracy, which posits that most of those in positions of power and wealth got theirs through a combination of hard work, determination, and natural ability and that, at least in theory, ambitious future fortune seekers can likewise expect to have access to the same prizes if they just work hard enough and perhaps catch a lucky break or two.</p><p>Now American meritocracy has plenty of problems, chief among them being that more and more people simply no longer believe its premises nor put any faith in its promises. However, as Walter Sobchak famously observed, &#8220;At least it&#8217;s an ethos.&#8221;</p><p>An ethos that will, for better or worse, pass from the American scene once and for all in the next 10-20 years, as the boomer race slowly fades out into non-existence, just in time for the <a href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/p/how-gay-space-fascism-won-the-future">new order of Gay Space Fascism</a> to take its place. </p><p>Of course, this is a hard pill to swallow for most people. It would actually be far easier for them to imagine something that seems to be more catastrophic (some kind of brutal civil war or zero hedgesque &#8216;collapse&#8217; of the system, both very unlikely events in the near term) than to simply project out logically into the future given the few things we do actually know about demographics and technology. </p><p>One of the more humorous things about American-style apocalypse stories is how much trouble they have actually imagining the American way of life coming to an end; the imagined future may involve hordes of zombies or soldiers engaged in dramatic firefights, but all the action still takes place on a cul-de-sac, and when the ragtag gang of survivors inevitably makes their way to a grocery store, the shelves are, inexplicably, still bursting with goods.</p><p>Hence why the future being promoted by GSF seems to raise so few serious alarms: it is simply too strange and foreign to contemporary Americans to seem like a real danger. </p><p>Still, if the past 10 years have taught us anything, it should be that things actually can change, and change far faster than people think, even if boomers (both literal and spiritual) are unable to mentally process these changes. </p><p>However, these radical changes will take place &#8216;out in the open,&#8217; as it were, without the benefit of a longer transitional period that would otherwise enable things to be culturally &#8216;settled&#8217; in a more traditional manner. Hence why there will be no effective mythology that will be able to be birthed along with Thiel&#8217;s new <a href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/p/costin-alamarius-selective-breeding">genetically engineered vampire elites</a>. </p><p>They will just &#8216;show up&#8217; one day in schools and workplaces and begin to instantly beat out the competition via a combination of superior abilities and the assumption that they have such abilities due to their superior &#8216;breeding.&#8217; It is worth noting again, I think, that whether or not they actually are genetically &#8216;superior&#8217; to a &#8216;natural,&#8217; all things being equal, is beside the point; the point is that they will be perceived to be so, which is all that matters. </p><p>Once that assumption is embedded into cultural expectations, which won&#8217;t take long at all, the natural thing to happen next is for the mass of remaining &#8216;naturals&#8217; to experience a combination of mass despondency and mass resentment. Despondency because there will be little use in any longer &#8216;putting in the work&#8217; to advance oneself, especially if one already knows that the few genuinely sought after &#8216;elite&#8217; spots remaining (let us not forget that AI will also soon be making many, many traditionally &#8216;white collar&#8217; roles obsolete in the very near future) will be reserved for &#8216;enhanced&#8217; individuals. And resentment because this is simply the most natural human reaction to experiencing the change from a society in which things were, by any historical metric, surprisingly egalitarian and at least somewhat meritocratic to one in which things are suddenly openly and unapologetically neo-feudal in nature, with a genetically engineered caste of &#8216;elites&#8217; suddenly appearing on top of the social pyramid. </p><p>This will almost inevitably result in violence on a significant scale. Even now we are likely seeing the first green shoots of this new tendency as American society transitions from the lifeworld of the &#8216;end of history,&#8217; with its most characteristic act, the anonymous, nihilistic mass shooting, giving way to, once again, targeted political violence and assassination, which we can see in high-profile cases like Luigi Mangione and Elias Rodriguez. </p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>However, the future is likely to be far bleaker in this sense than the present, as with the passing of the Boomers and the new reality of deglobalization and AI, life in the United States will likely become far more miserable and significantly materially poorer than it is now. A state of affairs that will pour gasoline on top of a fading liberal society struggling to conceptualize how exactly to deal with the new genetic reality it has created for itself.</p><p>The biologically &#8216;enhanced&#8217; will likely be targeted for assassination on an individual level and will also become subjects of active hatred and derision from much of the populace. In response the new genetic elite will turn inward, doubling down on its own power and privilege with legions of private security patrolling heavily guarded compounds while a Palantiresque AI works overtime to &#8216;preempt&#8217; violence against the &#8216;enhanced&#8217; via an all-pervasive mass surveillance system. A move that will only breed further resentment amongst the rest of the populace and continue the cycle of violence. </p><p>How this conflict will end is uncertain, but either potential outcome (the creation of a tyrannical surveillance state that enforces genetic apartheid with the boot, the bullet, and the drone or the physical liquidation of the &#8216;enhanced&#8217; class by a &#8216;natural&#8217; uprising) is equally bleak.</p><p>Now one could easily accuse me of hyperbole here, but the thing is, the historical record indicates that I&#8217;m probably right. </p><p>We have examples of past societies based around some kind of racial apartheid in which the ruling class is considered innately racially, that is to say, genetically superior (which, it must be noted, is significantly different than the old aristocratic European idea of having &#8216;noble blood,&#8217; etc.), and they almost all end in some kind of extreme bloodshed and societal collapse. France controlled Haiti, South Africa, Rwanda, the American South, and the list goes on (do I even need to mention that, uh, most famous example here?).</p><p>Again, to drive this point home, a big difference between the coming Thieloid genetic caste system and, say, the Indian caste system is that the latter had hundreds and hundreds of years to develop and is also deeply couched in Hindu metaphysics, and the former will be forming in the course of maybe a couple of decades and completely divorced from any kind of soothing mythology. </p><p>Also, I think it&#8217;s quite telling that China has so far apparently chosen not to embrace this technology, which is somewhat surprising if one assumes it confers such a massive technical advantage. China is, of course, culturally distinct from the West and, importantly, also doesn&#8217;t have any comparable myth to the Nietzschean &#220;bermensch (such a story would make little sense in the Chinese mental universe). However, the real reason they have likely avoided embryo selection tech is simply because they see the massive potential for societal destabilization it poses in the medium to long term.</p><p>But perhaps the most simple way to explain the problem is with a simple question: Can you &#8216;murder&#8217; someone who has become &#8216;transhuman&#8217;?</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/p/how-orchids-designer-babies-will?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/p/how-orchids-designer-babies-will?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><p> After all, if one has elevated themselves beyond the merely &#8216;human&#8217; and posited that the same rules no longer apply to them, it stands to figure that they may also no longer be due the same courtesies either. </p><p>However society decides to ultimately answer this question in the coming centuries, it is certain that Thiel and his comrades will discover that, to their chagrin and consternation, in the meantime it&#8217;s going to be very much up for debate.</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Real 'Secret' Behind Trump's Alleged Epstein Letter]]></title><description><![CDATA[The 'Enigma' Behind Trump and Epstein's Friendship and the Alien Nature of the Elite Worldview]]></description><link>https://postscript1794.substack.com/p/the-secret-behind-trumps-alleged</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://postscript1794.substack.com/p/the-secret-behind-trumps-alleged</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan Cioran]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2025 16:16:03 GMT</pubDate><enclosure 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know I said before I was going to prioritize other Thiel- and GSF-related writing projects, but sometimes things present themselves that are simply too good and too interesting to let pass without comment. The Wall Street Journal&#8217;s <a href="https://www.wsj.com/politics/trump-jeffrey-epstein-birthday-letter-we-have-certain-things-in-common-f918d796?mod=hp_lead_pos9">recent claims</a> about Trump&#8217;s alleged 2003 birthday card to Epstein and the ensuing fallout are one such recent example that I simply can&#8217;t let go. It&#8217;s far too weird and fascinating, and not for the reasons the vast majority of commentators believe it is. </p><p>To be clear, I am not an Epstein conspiracy aficionado. I think I have a pretty good grasp of the general story, enough that I have developed some general opinions about the matter that I am relatively confident in, but I am by no means someone who has studied Epstein lore in depth. While interesting, I find that bringing up Epstein, unless it is unavoidable, is generally an unwise move (much like certain other &#8216;third rail&#8217; topics that will remain unnamed) unless I am willing to let the discussion become completely derailed by the conspiratard shitstorm which almost always ensues. </p><p>For the record, personally I believe Epstein probably did actually kill himself, though this is not something I&#8217;m terribly confident in. I am somewhat more confident in the claim that Epstein &#8216;belonged to intelligence,&#8217; most likely to the Israelis. Based on what we know about Epstein and how the case has been treated by various administrations, including Trump&#8217;s, since it broke, this seems to be very likely. </p><p>Regardless, the Trump administration&#8217;s treatment of the Epstein case has been something of a laugh riot from the beginning, from the infamous binders down to Trump&#8217;s recent disavowal of his own base for falling for a Democrat &#8216;hoax&#8217; concocted by, uhhhhh&#8230;Obama!</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>Even funnier have been the attempts of Trump&#8217;s gaggle of aligned influencers to keep up with Trump&#8217;s ever-changing edicts on the matter. The abrupt and shameless mental gymnastics, complete 180s, and &#8216;hold me back&#8217; threats to resign have been hilarious to watch. Still, funny as it all has been, it&#8217;s simply par for the course when it comes to Trump&#8217;s influencers. A group of people who genuinely believe in nothing and, by most traditional standards, are beneath contempt. Merely another example of &#8216;guys being dudes&#8217; and &#8216;bears shitting in the woods,&#8217; etc.</p><p>The far more interesting part of all this is, in my opinion, the contents of the letter itself, as reported by the WSJ. </p><p>Now, I realize Trump has explicitly denied that he wrote the letter and appears to be implying that it is some kind of fabrication. As they say, &#8216;big if true.&#8217; If the letter is indeed somehow fabricated, then Trump will undoubtedly be able to easily win a multi-billion dollar lawsuit against the Journal, and likely in somewhat short order. I don&#8217;t think this will happen, though, and expect Trump&#8217;s lawsuit to eventually be withdrawn or dismissed.</p><p>I don&#8217;t think the letter is a fabrication. I think it&#8217;s almost certainly real. There are a couple of reasons to think this, a few of which I will list:</p><ol><li><p>If you know anything about this kind of thing, you know that these stories undergo a significant amount of fact-checking. They also involve in-depth review from in-house lawyers. This is doubly true in cases where the stakes are high, and it doesn&#8217;t get any higher than this. Thus, I think it is very unlikely the Journal (of all places) would run a story they weren&#8217;t 100 percent confident in in order to try and &#8216;own&#8217; Trump (or something?) in 2025 (when it doesn&#8217;t matter at all) while opening themselves up for a potentially paper-destroying libel suit in response. The story was run because they had extreme confidence in it.</p></li><li><p>Trump and his surrogates claims that &#8216;it doesn&#8217;t sound like him&#8217; and &#8216;he doesn&#8217;t do drawings&#8217; are false. The latter claim is obviously false, as Trump&#8217;s doodles have actually been auctioned off, images of which have been widely circulated online. While the former claim &#8216;seems true,&#8217; it only does if your primary experience of Trump is via his tweets, rally speeches and debate performances. In all of these cases, Trump is &#8216;putting on a show&#8217; frequently in a very self-conscious way (Trump is nothing if not a showman). This does not mean that Trump somehow doesn&#8217;t have an inner life, however. As I think you can see a bit more evidently in some of his much older interviews.</p></li><li><p>Trump and Epstein were, in fact, friends, as both of them stated on the record at various times. By &#8216;friends&#8217; I mean specifically far more than mere acquaintances, possibly even &#8216;close friends,&#8217; though it&#8217;s hard to know for sure (Epstein himself claimed they were &#8216;best friends&#8217; for 10 years.) This isn&#8217;t exactly that weird of a fact; it also doesn&#8217;t somehow prove Trump was a &#8216;pedo&#8217; (or whatever). Epstein famously knew a lot of people, a lot of very rich and powerful people, and traveled freely through elite circles. </p><p></p></li></ol><p>Rather, the genuinely interesting thing about the letter from Trump to Epstein is the very unique and rare insight it offers us into both Trump and Epstein&#8217;s inner lives. This is an extremely unusual and valuable thing, as it reveals much about the inherently alien and dangerous nature of what we can call the &#8216;elite&#8217; worldview in modern America. </p><p>Let&#8217;s look at what was allegedly in the letter itself:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qkdw!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fabf07ab0-446b-464a-b10e-1324536f9d4c_1470x984.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qkdw!, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/w_424, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/q_auto:good, 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y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Aside from the bizarre, Lynchian quality of the entire dialogue, it is fascinating for what it implicitly tells us about both Trump and Epstein. Much of which is also reflected in the very small snippets we have of Epstein from other sources. </p><p>I think it&#8217;s a mistake to solely read the dialogue as some kind of confession of guilt regarding sex with minors. Even if this were true, which I suppose is certainly possible, I don&#8217;t think this is the genuinely important aspect of the conversation. Rather, the true load-bearing structure here, I think, is simply the mutual alienation and contempt both men felt toward society more generally. Toward the unenlightened, toward those who don&#8217;t know &#8216;the secret.&#8217;</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>Both Trump and Epstein are and were unique people, not only due to their massive wealth and personal charisma (traits they both shared) but also due to a particular attitude they both had toward life, and it is this attitude that, at least I would argue, constitutes the actual &#8216;secret&#8217; they shared together. </p><p>While Epstein was the more obviously intellectual and reflective of the two (both traits that made him both extremely successful financially and also an extraordinarily apt human predator), Trump, though superficially oafish, is actually quite astute in his own way and can frequently be both surprisingly philosophical and perceptive.</p><p>Both had amassed so much money that it likely no longer really mattered in a practical sense to them except as &#8216;a way of keeping score,&#8217; as Trump himself once famously noted. </p><p>Both appear to have been transparently lonely people with few, or likely no, close friends. The nature of extreme wealth makes such loneliness more likely, as it is hard to find someone who isn&#8217;t either trying to get something from you and/or has the kind of comparable life experiences that allow for a true friendship to form.</p><p>Ironically, perhaps one of the few individuals either had ever met that would have had the right kind of life experiences and &#8216;fellow feeling&#8217; required for friendship would have been each other.</p><p>Part of this &#8216;fellow feeling,&#8217; as seems obvious, was a certain camaraderie both shared in each being a kind of contrarian and provocateur. Trump&#8217;s history in this regard doesn&#8217;t need an explanation, but it should be noted that Epstein also shared a certain confrontational and provocative antagonism toward many he interacted with in high society, in a surprisingly similar way to Trump. From his absurd and gaudy multi-million-dollar homes decorated with pornography and other forms of offense to his tendency toward bizarre provocations like flaunting the much younger women he employed and <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ph-lQqIKETc">openly trolling and antagonizing</a> many of those he interacted with in high society.</p><p>Both Trump and Epstein had, in a very real sense, peeked over &#8216;the big everything&#8217; and seen the other side of things. They were individuals who could &#8216;see through&#8217; others, as they had not only been to the very top of society&#8217;s mountain but had also seen its innermost secrets. The &#8216;secret&#8217; of the &#8216;big everything&#8217; is that there is no &#8216;secret,&#8217; per se, no inherent order or meaning. Life is a series of disconnected events, a stream that constantly flows downhill until it empties itself out into the vastness of a dead and unfeeling universe. Heraclitus is thus vindicated: all is fire, the forms themselves were always illusions, nothing more than the wishful thinking of a terrified primate with an overdeveloped brain and too much time on its hands. The vast majority of whom live lives of bleak and brutal desperation or, at best, inside a kind of consumerist dream world. But even the dreams aren&#8217;t theirs; rather, they are a collection of prepackaged narratives made for them and clung to in a tenuous, and somewhat pitiful, attempt to impose some kind of coherence on the random and, ultimately, stupid events that end up comprising their lives.</p><p>As Trump once noted during a 2003 interview with Larry King while answering a caller&#8217;s question about how he manages stress, &#8220;I try and tell myself it doesn&#8217;t matter. Nothing matters.&#8221; Trump said, &#8220;If you tell yourself it doesn&#8217;t matter, like you do shows, you do this, you do that, and then you have earthquakes in India where 400,000 people get killed. Honestly, it doesn&#8217;t matter. That&#8217;s how I handle stress,&#8221; he added.</p><p>Or, as he memorably put it another time in his 1990 interview with Playboy, &#8220;Life is what you do while you&#8217;re waiting to die&#8230; We&#8217;re here, and we live our 60, 70, or 80 years, and we&#8217;re gone. You win, you win, and in the end, it doesn&#8217;t mean a hell of a lot.&#8221;</p><p>Such an outlook is a tempting and, in some ways, natural disposition for any intelligent person with extreme wealth to develop. However, this doesn&#8217;t usually manifest in the petty snobbery of the upper middle class, who are still close enough to those below them to feel the need to demonstrate their superiority. Rather, the view of the <em>truly</em> wealthy (a classification that likely now kicks in somewhere around the 100 million dollar mark) tends toward something far more alien and removed from the lives of everyday people. In this sense there is no need for actual snobbery, hence why individuals like Trump and, to a lesser extent, Musk can be viewed as sorts of populist champions, as they don&#8217;t share the contempt for the unwashed masses that is pervasive amongst Democrats, comprised, as they are, largely by upper-middle-class PMC striver types.</p><p>Still, potential populist appeal aside, the worldview of the ultra-elite is, by its nature, alien. They can make more money in a single day than most people do in an entire lifetime of work. The amount of money they drop on a simple piece of furniture would be considered &#8216;life changing&#8217; for the majority of the working classes. This fact alone is alienating, something Epstein seemed to somewhat comment on briefly in a piece of one of the very few interviews (or rather, pieces of an interview) that have ever been released to the public. </p><p><strong>"</strong>I saw lots of people doing lots of hard work, and hard work didn't translate into success either. It wasn't what you knew or how hard you worked.&#8221; <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E521OBIH1cU">Epstein noted.</a></p><p>&#8220;In fact, the people who were doing construction on Telegraph Avenue at that time, you know, coming in at seven o'clock in the morning and spending 12 hours working<strong>, </strong>they looked like they still were neither happy nor successful, so it was not, you know, and what I learned, lots of it in fact, turns out to<strong> </strong>not necessarily be who you are but who you came in contact with,&#8221; he concluded.</p><p>For such individuals, the idea that they should somehow adhere to the laws and norms of the rest of society seems laughable, if not downright insulting. They exist, for all intents and purposes, in a different universe from the rest of humanity; why, therefore, should they follow their rules? Their petty, lying moralities. Moralities that are derived as much from an envious slave morality as they are from any kind of genuine desire for &#8216;the good,&#8217; (a concept the truly &#8216;elite&#8217; know to be, at best, a noble lie)</p><p>This is doubly true for someone like, say, Thiel, who goes even further, claiming that even the most basic fact of the human condition, desire itself, is, for all aside from a tiny minority, inauthentic. Merely a kind of pathetic mimicry born of envy, the truth of which the common folk will indulge in any and all kinds of barbaric violence to conceal from themselves.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/p/the-secret-behind-trumps-alleged?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/p/the-secret-behind-trumps-alleged?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><p>Only the &#8216;elite&#8217; can handle the great &#8216;secret&#8217; of life: the wisdom of Silenus. The task for which they have been selected by fate, a burden that grants them the license to do as they please with whom they please, to not be bound to the earth by the shackles of a contemptible slave morality built upon envy. This is the only true &#8216;freedom&#8217; which exists, and the real reason why Thiel <a href="https://www.cato-unbound.org/2009/04/13/peter-thiel/education-libertarian/">expressed his belief </a>that freedom and democracy were ultimately not compatible. Because the only true &#8216;freedom&#8217; is that possessed by the master, who alone is able to bear the awesome weight of its power and responsibility. A &#8216;freedom&#8217; which, even if they had access to it, would be quickly discarded by the masses.</p><p>As Epstein <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M511Wp-elHE">noted</a>: &#8220;I realize what I am... on my own island or on my own ranch, I can think the thoughts I want to think. I can do the work I want to do and I'm free to explore as I see fit.&#8221;</p><p>This is the &#8216;secret&#8217; Trump shared with Epstein, a &#8216;secret&#8217; they also share with men like Thiel even if they manifested it in superficially different ways.</p><p>It is the secret heresy that has haunted the minds of Western elites since at least the time of de Sade. A terminal disease for which there is only one cure:</p><p>Cleansing fire.</p><p></p><p></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Is the Most Shocking #MeToo Scandal in Silicon Valley History About to Explode in Thielworld?]]></title><description><![CDATA[The horrifying rumors that just won't die...]]></description><link>https://postscript1794.substack.com/p/is-the-most-shocking-metoo-scandal</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://postscript1794.substack.com/p/is-the-most-shocking-metoo-scandal</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan Cioran]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2025 17:50:20 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0U7L!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2fd53d0a-85b0-4e91-8101-92e03bf607d3_1374x938.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" 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a while now I&#8217;ve been internally debating how to broach this topic given its nature. There&#8217;s no two ways about it; it&#8217;s lurid and horrifying and chilling, and it also happens to fall under the heading category of &#8216;Things I&#8217;ve Heard About&#8217; and not &#8216;Things I Can Prove.&#8217; </p><p>Part of me wanted to ignore it in favor of other, more intellectual topics, and those topics are still the main focus of this Substack in general. However, I feel compelled to discuss this topic at least once. The thing about this particular rumor is just how frequently I have heard it over the years. Various iterations of the exact same story, but from very different people, with very different agendas, and at very different times. And it is striking to me how generally consistent it is. </p><p>Instead of discussing it myself, I&#8217;m merely going to post some screenshots of what other people have posted on this topic and simply note that what all these people are saying very much echoes what I and others have also heard for years. Make of that what you will.</p><p>To be extremely clear: these are not established &#8216;facts,&#8217; and I have no intention of presenting them as such. These are simply examples of &#8216;what people are saying&#8217; and nothing more at this point. If you are curious about the details or deeper meaning of any particular claim, you should reach out to the individuals who made them directly. At this stage I am left with more questions than answers, and, at this point, questions are all I can really offer my readers. But they are important questions, and ones that I believe are very much worth asking.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>The first screenshot is from a post made by Tanner Greer, someone I and most others know as being an extremely intelligent and serious person. I admit, Greer&#8217;s tweet is the straw that broke the camel&#8217;s back on this stuff for me. Tanner is also someone who I know is in a position to have heard about these things from relevant parties directly as he is deep into this world and also doesn&#8217;t have a history of bullshitting. It should be noted that he deleted this post relatively soon after posting it without explanation:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!x77X!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd1eb9b26-da66-4890-8ebd-e223c7c183cb_1184x1132.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!x77X!, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/w_424, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd1eb9b26-da66-4890-8ebd-e223c7c183cb_1184x1132.png 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!x77X!, 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some more stories, this time from different accounts. Again, I will let them speak for themselves. You can draw your own conclusions:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!J1WA!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0932d988-8d25-4cbc-8edf-d5bf03013338_642x1142.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!J1WA!, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/w_424, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0932d988-8d25-4cbc-8edf-d5bf03013338_642x1142.png 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!J1WA!, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/w_848, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/c_limit, 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It is interesting, I would note, just how much energy important Thiel world capos like Costin Alamariu expend attempting to justify such relationships, and in very straightforward and explicit terms. A very unusual thing to spend time attempting to justify to an audience of ostensibly straight young right-wing men, many of whom work in tech. I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s probably nothing, though. 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this point it would behoove us to take a short look at some relevant data points from Thiel&#8217;s recent past to provide a bit more &#8216;context.&#8217; We will still be only left with questions, but they will be ones that are a lot more interesting, I think.</p><h3><strong>Thiel and the Strange Death of Jeff Thomas</strong></h3><p>Most people plugged into this stuff know about Thiel and Jeff Thomas, or at least the broader outlines of the story. Still, I think it&#8217;s worth it to go back over it in a bit more detail, especially with the benefit of hindsight, as it is a bit remarkable how strange the story is and how many questions about what happened that day still remain.</p><p>Thomas&#8217;s body was found on March 8, 2023, on the street beneath a 57-story tower in downtown Miami, where he lived. His cause of death was a fall, apparently from his own apartment&#8217;s balcony. </p><p>Thomas was a gay 35-year-old male model who had recently relocated to Miami from Los Angeles, where he had been in an extended and, at times, stormy sexual relationship with Thiel. He had also been talking to a reporter from the Intercept, Ryan Grim, about his relationship with Thiel for a yet-to-be published feature when he suddenly was found dead. It&#8217;s worth it to look back at just what Grim <a href="https://theintercept.com/2023/03/23/peter-thiel-jeff-thomas/">recounted of these conversations</a>, as they present a rare and unfiltered look at Thiel&#8217;s personal life and also serve as a kind of final testament for Thomas himself. </p><p>Thomas expounded on his relationship with Thiel to Grim during their discussions, a situation he likened to being &#8216;kept&#8217; in a &#8216;dollhouse.&#8217;</p><p>&#8220;It was stressful; he wanted me to get the nicest car and the nicest house. He wanted to kind of show his power, to kind of show that he had me in his dollhouse,&#8221; Thomas said. &#8220;It&#8217;s not like I was his boyfriend, really; I was just kind of his friend that was there for him when he needed, you know, whatever he needed,&#8221; he added.</p><p>&#8220;If I&#8217;m going to give up the relationships I have and give up my dreams right now, during Covid, or dating other guys or pursuing people, then I&#8217;m going to get a $300,000 car, and I&#8217;m going to get a $13 million home [on Franklin Avenue in Hollywood Hills]. So those are the things that I see fit for me to give up my freedom,&#8221; Thomas continued.</p><p>According to Grim&#8217;s sources, Thiel and Thomas were frequently seen together during this time period, including during a series of high-profile parties they would throw together. </p><p>What&#8217;s interesting is that, according to a source contacted by Grim, Thiel would, at least sometimes, directly recruit young men for them. Grim&#8217;s source, a grad student at the University of California, Los Angeles, showed him Facebook messages between him and Thiel in which Thiel attempted to recruit him for one such party. </p><p>&#8220;Hot guys at a pool sounds like pretty idyllic gay activity to me,&#8221; the student responded at one point in the conversation. </p><p>&#8220;Well, it doesn&#8217;t stay idyllic too long,&#8221; Thiel responded, suggestively.</p><p>I don&#8217;t want to dwell on Thomas&#8217;s death too long; this is not a Substack dedicated to true crime stories, after all. However, I do want to point out a few strange facts about it. </p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>Perhaps the strangest of all is the simple fact that, as far as I have been able to ascertain, the investigation into his death, despite it now being almost two years later, appears to be ongoing, as no official findings were ever released aside from an extremely short initial <a href="https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/report-miami-police-probing-death-of-peter-thiels-partner-as-suicide-16623267">police report</a> obtained by the Miami New Times. In addition, the coroner&#8217;s report was also never released. Almost nothing has been reported about the investigation since the first few months after Thomas&#8217;s death. With the Thiel-aligned journalist Theodore Schleifer&#8217;s <a href="https://puck.news/peter-thiel-david-brock-a-gutter-oppo-campaign-for-our-times/">attempt at damage control<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a> </a>being the last to truly try and report on the story, in the process claiming that he had seen a document indicating the police had determined Thomas&#8217;s death was a suicide, but without expounding further or sharing it.</p><p>His actual cause of death&#8212;whether it was an unfortunate accident, a suicide, or something even darker&#8212;appears to be something that has divided his family and friends, at least according to statements they released in the immediate aftermath of his death. </p><p>Thomas&#8217;s agent <a href="https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11872599/Model-Jeff-Thomas-died-falling-tower-taking-SELFIE-agent-claims.html">refused to accept</a> the suicide explanation, suggesting instead that his death may have been some kind of unfortunate accident, perhaps involving an attempt at taking a selfie over the side of his building&#8217;s balcony. A cousin also appeared to refuse to accept suicide as an explanation. In addition, friends contacted by Grim also appeared to cast doubt on the suicide story. Thomas&#8217;s brother, however, appeared to support the suicide theory, posting about Thomas&#8217;s alleged struggles with mental illness and addiction. Thomas&#8217;s stepfather declined to comment aside from stating that he knew &#8220;the whole story&#8221; and had &#8220;talked to Peter a lot.&#8221; What they discussed or if any compensation was provided to the stepfather or any other members of Thomas&#8217;s family remains unknown.</p><p>One thing that is known, however, is that Thiel was <a href="https://x.com/teddyschleifer/status/1679633743638568961?lang=en">reportedly</a> the last person to talk with Thomas, supposedly in a phone call a few hours before he fell to his death. What they discussed is unknown and, judging by the state of the investigation, is likely to remain that way.</p><h3>Thiel&#8217;s Sensitive Young Men</h3><p>The Jeff Thomas affair is certainly not Thiel&#8217;s first rodeo, especially when it comes to unusual relationships with men much younger than himself. In fact, he has gone out of his way to do so for years, something that has been noted by a number of different observers and not just in &#8216;social&#8217; settings either. Thiel&#8217;s preference for surrounding himself with young men, and young men with a very particular &#8216;look,&#8217; is well documented. </p><p>Here it&#8217;s once again useful for us to go back to Chafkin&#8217;s &#8216;Contrarian&#8217; for some of the details on this. Two passages in particular stand out for us here. </p><p>The first, regarding Thiel&#8217;s social life in San Francisco: </p><blockquote><p>In addition to the constant networking, Thiel was partying. These weren&#8217;t the desperate soir&#233;es filled with anxious aspiring entrepreneurs; they were ragers, with bartenders wearing &#8220;assless chaps,&#8221; and drugs and sex out in the open, according to two sources familiar with the affairs&#8230;He tended to show up with an entourage of attractive young men, before disappearing into some back room.</p></blockquote><p>And the second involves Steve Bannon&#8217;s account of Thiel&#8217;s role in the transition for Trump&#8217;s first administration: </p><blockquote><p>This was odd&#8212;though not nearly as odd as the entourage Thiel brought with him. Of course, it was common for executive committee members to show up with an aide or two; Thiel brought a half dozen. They were all young men, and all were disconcertingly attractive; &#8220;they looked like male models,&#8221; said Bannon. Bannon cleared out a dingy office on the fourteenth floor of Trump Tower that Stephen Miller, Peter Navarro, and Curt Ellis&#8212;Trump&#8217;s policy team&#8212;had been using and gave it to Thiel. A long table was installed, and the team of hunks set up laptops, Silicon Valley&#8210;style. From November through January, they worked shoulder to shoulder, cranking out a list of possible appointees and working late into the evening, after most of the rest of the staff had gone home.</p></blockquote><p>This is what we like to call &#8216;a pattern of behavior.&#8217;</p><p>This behavior also wasn&#8217;t limited to just his contacts in Silicon Valley; it appears Thiel also reached out to a number of other &#8216;sensitive young men&#8217; when it came to his contacts with the early alt-right. For instance, in 2016 and 2017, Thiel <a href="https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/rosiegray/peter-thiel-donald-trump-white-nationalist-support">met with a number of alt-right figures</a>, all of them young men. At least one of these meetings occurred during a secretive dinner arranged by Jeff Giesea, who at the time was serving as Thiel&#8217;s unofficial ambassador and advisor to the nascent political movement.</p><p>The exoteric rationale for such meetings seems straightforward enough: Thiel has a curious mind and is always looking for new points of entry to power and/or influence. Especially angles that are being ignored by others and that he can get in on cheap and early, a method that has guided almost all of his investing decisions in the world of tech and business. </p><p>On the other hand, Thiel must be an extremely busy man with countless individuals competing for his time and attention, and yet he decided to go out of his way to meet with a bunch of young and, frankly, unimpressive young men involved in fringe politics. Why? Especially as he already had Giesea available to run things in D.C. for him already.</p><p>Additionally, if he was just interested in the ideas themselves, why not arrange a meeting with one of the actual &#8216;intellectual&#8217; leaders of the movement, who would have been older men? What insight could these young men possibly provide to a keen intellect like Thiel&#8217;s?</p><p>Of course, we can only speculate as to the true answers to these questions. Perhaps Thiel was looking for something&#8230;altogether different from these arraignments. It is hard to say.</p><p>However, it wouldn&#8217;t necessarily be surprising if he was. The young men involved in the alt-right, especially the many working in the conservative movement, had many secrets, secrets they would go to significant lengths to conceal from others. This fact alone makes them, ironically, some of the most vulnerable people in Washington, D.C. </p><p>People who, given these compromising secrets, it would be quite easy to blackmail and manipulate into doing&#8230;almost anything.</p><p>Still, in spite of a surprising amount of evidence, ultimately we can only speculate as to what the real truth of all of this is.</p><p>The truth is this country has two distinct forms of justice: one for the very wealthy and one for everyone else, and Thiel exists very much within the former category. </p><p>Even if multiple victims suddenly came forward with some kind of irrefutable evidence that was able to convince a DA crazy enough to take on Thiel, his very expensive lawyers would lay complete siege to the case and begin the process of slowly picking it apart. In addition, immense pressure would be put on the accusers via Thiel&#8217;s massive network of influence; one way or another, they would be crushed. And if that somehow didn&#8217;t stop them, well, let&#8217;s just say that struggles with &#8216;mental health&#8217; and &#8216;addiction&#8217; are increasingly common these days and frequently result in inexplicable Jeff Thomasesque &#8216;tragedies.&#8217;</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/p/is-the-most-shocking-metoo-scandal?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/p/is-the-most-shocking-metoo-scandal?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><p>Think of it this way: Thiel&#8217;s <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/04/business/jeffrey-epstein-peter-thiel-estate.html">business partner</a> Jeffrey Epstein engaged in an insanely convoluted, reckless, and high profile underage sex ring for years and it still took ages for him to actually get collared for it. Thiel is orders of magnitude richer and more powerful than Epstein ever was, in addition to being significantly more intelligent and far more cautious. Thus, if there is any truth to the rumors, there is an almost zero percent chance he will ever face justice for it&#8230;at least not in a court of law. </p><p>Of course, this could all be merely a series of vicious rumors and smears being spread by a band of demented activists and political operatives driven by an unquenchable resentment toward men greater than themselves and who seek to turn them into scapegoats for their own personal failures and for the unspeakable shame they feel when contemplating the inauthentic nature of the origin of their own desire.</p><p>Alternatively, Thiel&#8217;s &#8216;they hate me because I&#8217;m beautiful&#8217; Girardian squid ink defense could itself be complete bullshit. Merely the rhetorical camouflage used by a billionaire superpredator enslaved by his own perverse desires and fantasies, a person who will do almost anything in order to further his goal of obtaining absolute power, not only over other people but ultimately over life and death itself. </p><p>Or perhaps it is something else entirely.</p><p>The choice is hard&#8230;</p><p>You must choose.</p><p></p><p><strong>UPDATE 04/11/2026</strong>: <em>This article has become quite popular so I thought it deserved at least a brief update. I have received a massive amount of feedback, much of it in the form of DM&#8217;s that corroborates much of what was discussed in this story. In addition, the February 2026 WIRED piece entitled <a href="https://www.wired.com/story/inside-the-gay-tech-mafia/">Inside the Gay Tech Mafia</a> has also since completely vindicated what I wrote here (and should be read as a kind of companion piece to this article).</em></p><p></p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Thiel has learned a lot about the game of politics since his early days of fame and fortune, back when he was a &#8216;victim&#8217; of Gawker. A lot has changed since then, and I don&#8217;t just mean what happened with that particular media outlet. Thiel has learned the importance of shaping media narratives to his favor. Sometimes this can take the form of creating new media networks (both IRL and online) to forward his goals and also defend against attacks. But it has also meant cultivating allies in the old media, with the latter being a bit more complicated than the former. In general this is accomplished by feeding a journalist information. Information is what a journalist&#8217; career is based upon; their ability to continue getting work and advance their career is based upon their ability to obtain information. Thus, sources can actually have a significant amount of influence over a journalist&#8217; work, especially in a long-running relationship. While the movies may have you believe that sources are tortured &#8216;deep &#8217;throat&#8217;-like insiders who decide to risk everything because of a crisis of conscience (or something), the reality is quite different. Most sources, at least the smart ones, are trying to get something from the transaction (just like most transactions, financial or otherwise). In the short term, they are either looking to harm a particular target or further a particular cause, or, if they are particularly savvy, they are looking to establish a longer-term relationship with a journalist. Becoming a repeat source for a journalist over a longer time span gives you significantly more leverage than almost any other approach. The old adage that "if you owe the bank a hundred thousand dollars, the bank owns you. If you owe the bank a hundred million dollars, you own the bank" is just as true in journalism as it is in anything else. If you feed a particular journalist enough information, you will slowly build capital with that journalist and, more importantly, also build leverage. The journalist will become dependent on you and begin to treat you accordingly; this then allows you to ask for &#8216;favors&#8217; of various kinds, because nothing in this world is truly free. This can be a somewhat powerful position for a &#8216;regular&#8217; individual to be in, but it&#8217;s an even more powerful arrangement for someone like Thiel to be in, as he can offer a journalist not just an occasional scoop in one particular beat but the combined informational resources of the entire Thielverse. This means an endless supply of scoops and info on government and tech in addition to direct access to Thiel himself and his many, many allies in both the tech and governmental sphere. For someone covering government and tech, this arrangement would be career-making, something that could rocket an individual from obscurity to the big leagues. The New York Times, even! And this appears to be what may have happened to Theodore Schleifer, the journalist who authored a piece that appeared in the high-minded centrist publication Puck News a few months after Thomas&#8217;s death. The piece was remarkable for a few reasons, chief among them being just how deferential to Thiel it really was. I mean, the thing might as well have been written by Thiel&#8217;s PR department (though to be fair, it is not nearly as shameless as almost anything written by an essentially &#8216;out&#8217; Thieloid like James Pogue). It&#8217;s just extremely incurious about its subject and seems to defer to Thiel&#8217;s preferred perspective at every available opportunity while pursuing the other side like a DA seeking a conviction. Thus, while I think the piece in question is certainly worth reading in the context of Thomas&#8217;s death, one should also take care to do so with several dump trucks worth of salt, as Schleifer&#8217;s lack of even the appearance of basic journalistic objectivity (at least in this particular piece) combined with his extensive use of Thielworld sources (including Thiel himself, who seems awfully willing to talk to Schleifer at length) render him a bit biased at best, and at worst, something far more sinister.</p><p></p><p></p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Ross Douthat's Interview With the Vampire]]></title><description><![CDATA[Is Peter Thiel Unironically the Antichrist?]]></description><link>https://postscript1794.substack.com/p/ross-douthats-interview-with-the</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://postscript1794.substack.com/p/ross-douthats-interview-with-the</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan Cioran]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2025 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y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Well, that was something, wasn&#8217;t it?</p><p>I&#8217;m talking, of course, about our hero, conservative columnist Ross Douthat&#8217;s rather strange <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/26/opinion/peter-thiel-antichrist-ross-douthat.html">New York Times podcast interview</a> with his favorite tech oligarch, Peter Thiel. While it started out pretty normal with standard Douthatesque questions and similarly predictable Thieloid answers, around the halfway point things started to get interesting and even turned a little awkward. </p><p>This is very much out of the ordinary by the standards of Douthat interviews, which as a general rule tend to be conciliatory and irenic to a fault. Ross is simply not a confrontational guy, choosing instead to take the path of gentle, roundabout argumentation and vague intellectual gesturing, skills he has perfected out of necessity as the Times&#8217; only genuine right-of-center voice. Hence why the strangeness of this interview in particular is all the more notable. </p><p>This is not the first time Douthat and Thiel have had publicly recorded discussions. It&#8217;s happened several times before, in all instances with Douthat pitching mostly slow, softballs down the center for Thiel. Still, one gets the distinct sense that, deep down, Douthat knows something is not right with Peter. </p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>Undoubtedly this is something Ross has known (or at least intuited) for years, but, like many others in the post-Trump conservative movement, it is something he has likely not allowed himself to articulate openly, even to himself. One can&#8217;t necessarily blame him for doing this, as there is quite literally zero incentive for it.</p><p>In spite of this, Ross remains, insufferable Whig Thomist and general striver tendencies aside, a man of genuine faith and conscience, meaning that, like Jonathan Harker, he will naturally be deeply unsettled and shattered if he is unfortunate enough to catch a glimpse of his benefactors&#8217; true visage, even if only for a moment. </p><p>Truth be told, the comparison of Douthat to Harker, particularly in the context of their respective relationships to you-know-who, is almost comically on the nose. In one corner you have an earnest, faithful, and pious, if somewhat naive, middle-aged family man; in the other, an immensely rich, European born neo-aristocrat with an obsession with achieving immortality through the siphoning of the blood of the young and vulnerable and the accrual of vast power via a variety of unholy machinations. This is, at once, the hilarity and absurdity of the Douthat-Thiel dynamic. </p><p>That being said, I think it&#8217;s about time we actually dive into exactly what took place. </p><h3><strong>Renee Girard and The Antichrist: a Brief Primer on Thiel&#8217;s Rhetorical Squid Ink Strategies</strong></h3><p>In addition to his usual bevy of conversation topics (most of which have become quite stale at this point), Thiel also has been on a new kick recently concerning the concept of the Antichrist. </p><p>Thiel&#8217;s main contention regarding the Antichrist, it seems, as you can observe in his conversation with Douthat, is that, well&#8230;he&#8217;s not what you think he is. That is to say that, at least in Thiel&#8217;s telling of it, the Antichrist is likely to be exactly the opposite of what is expected in the historically accepted Christian understanding of it. Instead of being a charismatic Nietzschean superman bent on world domination via a combination of Machiavellian machinations and technological marvels (a description that is an uncomfortably close composite of Thiel himself), Thiel reads him as the exact opposite of this: as someone who offers to save the world from the dangers of science, technology, and progress. </p><p>In this sense it very much tracks with his reading of &#8216;Lord of the Rings,&#8217; the books from which he famously takes names for his companies. Humorously, it seems that many of his fans, especially his ostensibly Christian ones, do not understand this, or at least do not understand it in the way Thiel intends. Here we have a complete inversion of the traditional meaning of the text itself (this kind of &#8216;inversion&#8217; being a pretty consistent part of Thiel&#8217;s worldview across subjects). Thiel&#8217;s reading of LOTR basically mirrors Kirill Yeskov&#8217;s; instead of being the good guys, Gandalf and his allies are aggressive warmongers bent on destroying the peaceable and technologically advanced kingdom of Mordor in order to protect their feudal kingdom of mystical obscurantism.</p><p>&#8220;Gandalf's the crazy person who wants to start a war,&#8221; Thiel explains in a 2011 interview with <em>Details</em> magazine. &#8220;And Mordor is this technological civilization based on reason and science. Outside of Mordor, it's all sort of mystical and environmental, and nothing works.&#8221;</p><p>&#8220;Up is down, good is bad, freedom is slavery, war is peace.&#8221; If you notice, these are all, at one time or another, Thiel mantras, even if they are communicated in slightly more esoteric formulations. Again, these are not so much &#8216;contrarian takes&#8217; as they are simple &#8216;inversions&#8217; of the truth. </p><p>Related to this is Thiel&#8217;s oft-cited use of Ren&#233; Girard. Recently, I engaged in a bit of a messaging back and forth with a very smart reader of this Substack about my views on various Thiel-related topics, including his use of Girard. I told him that&#8212;while I admittedly am not a particularly close reader of Girard, an author who has never really interested me&#8212;my view of Thiel&#8217;s use of him is a pretty straightforward one. This is the part of Thiel lore I genuinely think most people actively overthink. While Thiel undoubtedly has other reasons he finds Girard&#8217;s theories worthwhile, the primary utility of it for him, in my view, is as a kind of camouflaging squid ink for his more nefarious projects and desires (that is to say, all of them).</p><p>In many ways Girard&#8217;s theories, particularly regarding scapegoating, are the perfect vehicle for this, as they allow Thiel to immediately reverse (invert) any accusations leveled against him and his projects. Instead of having to actually defend his funding and support of, say, eugenic genetic manipulation and commercialized surrogacy, extreme transhumanism, mass surveillance, and the literal weaponization of AI technologies, he can merely accuse his interlocutor of attempting to scapegoat him out of some kind of hidden, internalized resentment. This serves as an invaluable rhetorical tool for Thiel, especially in light of his general paranoia regarding being &#8216;found out&#8217; or foiled by the forces of his backwards and resentful enemies. </p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>Hence the appeal of his new anti-Christ narrative, which serves as yet more squid ink for him, yet another attempt to camouflage his true intentions and activities behind a veil of half-formed heresy and pseudo-profundity (descriptors that can be applied accurately to almost all of Thiel&#8217;s &#8216;ideas&#8217;). </p><p>The problem, in this case, is that this strategy now seems to have completely backfired on him. Thiel&#8217;s contention is just too manifestly ridiculous and strained to work as effective squid ink and actually seems to have, in the wake of the interview, done more to reveal his hideousness than obscure it.</p><p>I&#8217;m not even just talking about Thiel&#8217;s apparent hesitation to answer when confronted with the question of whether the human race should continue to survive. I&#8217;m willing to write this moment, awkward and inadvertently humorous as it was, off to Thiel&#8217;s tendency to stutter. </p><p>Thiel&#8217;s downfall really starts when he starts talking about his theory of the Antichrist in depth, which he outlandishly claims will be someone much more like&#8230;Greta Thunberg than someone like, well, him. As he notes in the interview:</p><blockquote><p>The way the Antichrist would take over the world is you talk about Armageddon nonstop. You talk about existential risk nonstop, and this is what you need to regulate. It&#8217;s the opposite of the picture of Baconian science from the 17th, 18th century, where the Antichrist is like some evil tech genius, evil scientist who invents this machine to take over the world. People are way too scared for that.</p><p>In our world, the thing that has political resonance is the opposite. The thing that has political resonance is: We need to stop science, we need to just say &#8220;stop&#8221; to this. And this is where, in the 17th century, I can imagine a Dr. Strangelove, Edward Teller-type person taking over the world. In our world, it&#8217;s far more likely to be Greta Thunberg.</p></blockquote><p>But even the usually hyper-irenic Douthat isn&#8217;t having it, not this time; after a good bit of back and forth, he appears to openly call him out on the patent absurdity of his argument:</p><blockquote><p>But we&#8217;re not living under the Antichrist right now. We&#8217;re just stagnant. And you&#8217;re positing that something worse could be on the horizon that would make stagnation permanent, that would be driven by fear. And I&#8217;m suggesting that for that to happen, there would have to be some burst of technological progress that was akin to Los Alamos, that people are afraid of.</p><p>And my very specific question for you: You&#8217;re an investor in A.I. You&#8217;re deeply invested in Palantir, in military technology, in technologies of surveillance and technologies of warfare and so on. And it just seems to me that when you tell me a story about the Antichrist coming to power and using the fear of technological change to impose order on the world, I feel like that Antichrist would maybe be using the tools that you are building. Like, wouldn&#8217;t the Antichrist be like: Great, we&#8217;re not going to have any more technological progress, but I really like what Palantir has done so far. Isn&#8217;t that a concern? Wouldn&#8217;t that be the irony of history, that the man publicly worrying about the Antichrist accidentally hastens his or her arrival?</p></blockquote><p>Douthat and Thiel then pivot to an incredibly awkward back-and-forth about divine providence, with Thiel basically writing it off completely as &#8216;Calvinist&#8217; and then accusing Douthat of &#8216;scapegoating God&#8217; (more squid ink) before Douthat somewhat abruptly ends the interview.</p><h3>Thiel as Anti-Christ</h3><p>I&#8217;m sure Ross had his doubts about Thiel before, but now they are likely getting harder and harder to ignore, even for someone whose professional and ideological incentives would encourage him to do so. </p><p>The truly off-putting part for Ross has to be the fact, pointed out by a poster on Twitter, that he has spent the better part of a decade helping to advance an agenda  that is, for all intents and purposes, completely antagonistic to his deepest held beliefs about morality, Christ, and the intrinsic value of the human person. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!g3EU!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7edca800-4fa8-4563-9c10-0d3f3a345b6f_1184x1092.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!g3EU!, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/w_424, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7edca800-4fa8-4563-9c10-0d3f3a345b6f_1184x1092.png 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!g3EU!, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/w_848, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/c_limit, 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y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Ross&#8217;s general failing is the same one shared by the vast majority of the conservative Catholic/Christian commentariat in the English-speaking world: a vast, hubristic overconfidence in their own cleverness and powers of persuasion combined with the unrelenting ambition of the striver. This has led him and others of similar persuasions to become the de facto servants of an individual who&#8212;in a very strict and formal sense of the term&#8212;is a practicing Satanist.</p><p>Thiel&#8217;s actual vision, stripped of its various squid inks, is very close to the one explicated by Costin in his &#8216;<a href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/p/costin-alamarius-selective-breeding">Selective Breeding and the Birth of Philosophy</a>&#8217;: a freedom of the masters who, through technological breakthroughs and their own vital energies and genius, have now become supermen and are now free to rule over, and do that which they please with, the remaining 95 percent of humanity. The bulk of which will exist in primitive, technologically backward societies, being of actual use to the vampire elites above them only perhaps as a source of spare organs, fertile wombs, or momentary pleasure. Beings who are as distant from the new supermen as a troop of baboons are from the Greek gods. Only they will have true freedom because only they will be developed enough to actually use or value it. This, in the most concise and truncated sense, is Thiel&#8217;s vision: <a href="https://mereorthodoxy.com/gay-space-fascism">Gay Space Fascism.</a></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/p/ross-douthats-interview-with-the?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/p/ross-douthats-interview-with-the?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><p>Of course, this is certainly a disquieting possibility for people like Ross, true as it may be. They simply have too many sunk costs at this point. </p><p>Still, it&#8217;s never too late to turn from a dark path, regardless of how late the hour may be, never too late to take the advice of someone wiser than yourself:</p><p><em>&#8220;The great snake lies ever half awake, at the bottom of the pit of the world, curled<br>In folds of himself until he awakens in hunger and moving his head to right and to left prepares for his hour to devour.<br>But the Mystery of Iniquity is a pit too deep for mortal eyes to plumb. Come<br>ye out from among those who prize the serpent's golden eyes&#8230;&#8221;</em></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Tim Dillon Finally Admits What Everyone Already Knew About the Thielverse]]></title><description><![CDATA[Surprised?]]></description><link>https://postscript1794.substack.com/p/tim-dillon-finally-admits-what-everyone</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://postscript1794.substack.com/p/tim-dillon-finally-admits-what-everyone</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan Cioran]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2025 06:06:09 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KTT4!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc038a02c-6317-47db-9187-79fce1c902a9_1448x846.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" 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class="image-caption">{Photo Credit: Screengrab via Youtube)</figcaption></figure></div><p></p><p>The so-called dissident sphere&#8217;s favorite comedian, Tim Dillion, just committed what for anyone else in the RW world would be an otherwise unforgivable faux pas: confirming that the Thielverse actually does exist. The privilege of the jester, I suppose. Regardless, what he says is absolutely fascinating but is also not at all surprising for anyone who really knows anything about this stuff at all.</p><p>Still, it's worth posting the video and discussing it a little bit here, in what will be only a short digression, as otherwise it could end up being the kind of episode that is quickly memory-holed and forgotten.</p><div id="youtube2-IZPXQbcUHeI" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;IZPXQbcUHeI&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:&quot;1058&quot;,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/IZPXQbcUHeI?start=1058&amp;rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p> </p><blockquote><p>I can't trust you. If you don't have any reservations about Palantir taking everyone's information, I, I don't know.<strong> </strong>I can't, I don't know if I can trust you. I don't. I think they're buying people left and right. This is my guess. <strong>They try to buy me. My pussy costs a lot of money. I get invited to these dinners. I don't go, I've been invited to Thiel's House multiple times for dinner. I don't go. It's no shade at at them or whatever, you know. The reason I don't go is I know I remember one dinner, they're like, we'd like to discuss the media. I go, what? No thanks. We'd like to discuss a dinner. We'd discuss the media and culture. No thanks.</strong> Appreciate it. Appreciate it. That's fine. Don't, don't need a &#8216;Here's what I'm doing.&#8217; Every week I'm discussing the media. Hey, good news. I have a show. I have a show. You can listen to it. You can listen to it if you are curious about, <strong>but I've been to some of these places. I've sat in these houses in Austin with these tech people and I know what they want and I know what they want me to go out and cheerlead for and say, well, it's actually a great idea. </strong>And there's probably a lot of money in it. There's probably a lot of money and I just can't do it. It's not because I'm some great moral person&#8230;So my prediction, and I'm not, I don't wanna name names 'cause I don't know, <strong>but my prediction is you're gonna see a lot of people over the next six months, start thinking this list's a great idea.</strong> <strong>They're gonna start telling you how great this is and how it's about terrorism. That's the one that'll start going well. It's the terror. </strong></p></blockquote><p>Now again, Tim is saying nothing that isn&#8217;t stupidly obvious. Yes, the Thielverse actively recruits and cultivates talent at a variety of different levels, and yes, it is very interested in pushing particular narratives, especially narratives that cohere well with Thiel&#8217;s operating philosophy and/or the financial interests of Palantir (where a significant amount of Thiel&#8217;s current fortune originates). </p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>None of this is particularly crazy or controversial, aside for, I guess, that small minority still committed to full Thielverse denialism. This group is an ever-shrinking one, however, being now limited to oblivious types without actual connections to the people involved in this. The new line, especially among Thiel&#8217;s &#8216;dissident&#8217; influencers, is a Thieloid version of the &#8216;Law of Merited Impossibility.&#8217; Which goes something like this:</p><ul><li><p>&#8220;The Thielverse is a paranoid conspiracy theory.&#8221;</p></li></ul><ul><li><p>&#8221;Ok it&#8217;s real, but it&#8217;s actually really small scale and not at all how people portray it.&#8221;</p></li></ul><ul><li><p>&#8220;Ok, ok, it&#8217;s real and basically how they portray it, but it&#8217;s actually good.&#8221;</p></li></ul><p>As Dillion appears to imply, the Thieloids are eager to use their influencers to actively push an uncritically pro-Israeli and pro-Palantir line. None of this is particularly surprising. Both are issues that are more or less non-negotiable in the Thielverse; you either back them uncritically or prepare to be cast out. </p><p>The reasons for this are obvious. The Thielverse, largely through Palantir (though not exclusively), has extensive and quite lucrative contracts with the Israelis. Something that has actually been relatively well documented and that you can read about in depth in other places quite easily. </p><p>However, profit motive is not really the exclusive or even really the most important reason for this. Israel is just as important ideologically to the Thielverse (and thus to Gay Space Fascism) as it is financially. </p><p>One can see this quite clearly in much of the sphere&#8217;s pro-Israeli propaganda, which is very much the opposite of traditional liberal variations of the same type of propaganda. </p><p>Opposed to the old libtardisms, which emphasized Israel&#8217;s status as the ultimate historical victim (thus giving it carte blanche to do whatever they have to in order to &#8216;defend themselves&#8217;), the new Thieloid line is that Israel is rather the ultimate macho victimizer. A &#8216;based&#8217; high-IQ ethnostate locked in an existential struggle with the brown, subhuman hordes of the global south, a <a href="https://im1776.com/2024/10/07/nietzschean-zionism/">model that should be emulated by rightists in the United States</a>. The exact framing that is pushed by the entire Thieloid project (at least its outward, exoteric face). </p><p>The same tack is also taken with Palantir, which is likewise &#8216;based&#8217; (so we are told by Thieloid influencers) because they are actively using their tech to hunt down leftist rioters and illegals. Threats so dire and so inherently existential to Western civilization that they may require certain traditional civil liberties and protections (such as the right to privacy) to be heavily curtailed or abolished entirely. After all, the Constitution is just a piece of paper that hasn&#8217;t been meaningful since the time the Civil Rights Act was enacted.</p><p>Of course, usually unmentioned in this line of thought is the way in which Palantir&#8217;s continued rise (and the massive amounts of cash flowing to it via new government contracts issued by the Trump administration) allows Thiel and his co-conspirators (such as Alex Karp) to solidify their power and influence in the long run. Making them indispensable for any future administrations, even including ones run by Democrats, and keeping the free cash pipeline flowing to them indefinitely. </p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/p/tim-dillon-finally-admits-what-everyone?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/p/tim-dillon-finally-admits-what-everyone?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><p>In this sense they are setting themselves up to be oligarchs in the Eastern European sense of the term. Individuals whose immense wealth allows them to actually have, in many ways, more influence than their actual elected head of state. A position from which they can never be voted out and on whose power there is no meaningful check.</p><p>In any case, Dillon&#8217;s little admission was fascinating. We shall see in due course if anyone else has the courage to emerge with similar claims.</p><p></p><p></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Real Reason 'Nothing Ever Happens']]></title><description><![CDATA[I'm all in...]]></description><link>https://postscript1794.substack.com/p/the-real-reason-nothing-ever-happens</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://postscript1794.substack.com/p/the-real-reason-nothing-ever-happens</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan Cioran]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2025 02:29:36 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dD22!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F47b51177-53d9-43e9-ad5d-271d7b613812_1352x1342.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>I&#8217;ve decided to take a bit of a break from documenting the world of the Thieloids and GSF for a quick cultural digression (if you would indulge me here). </p><p>Memes come and go, usually without too much of a fuss and without being that interesting. In addition, most are quite forgettable. Which is something I can&#8217;t say for the, now seemingly ubiquitous, &#8216;nothing ever happens&#8217; meme format. </p><p>A format that is notable, in my view, for a few reasons, primarily because not only is it funny and infuriating in equal measure, but also because it serves as a surprisingly revealing lens through which to understand one of our culture&#8217;s most profound neuroses. One that is shared, judged by the popularity of the format, by far more people than I had previously thought. </p><p>Let&#8217;s start by briefly discussing the obvious: in order to really &#8216;get&#8217; the nothing ever happens memes, you have to understand their main subject: Chudjak. A character created to mock angry and resentful right-wing young men who spend too much time seeking release for their ennui by pursuing catharsis on the internet. One of Chudjak&#8217;s primary catchphrases, before &#8216;Nothing ever happens,&#8217; was always &#8216;The West has fallen, billions must die.&#8217;</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yPi7!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2fb797b3-ab09-48c0-a6ef-89332a93ebfd_1370x930.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yPi7!, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/w_424, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2fb797b3-ab09-48c0-a6ef-89332a93ebfd_1370x930.png 424w, 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A situation he believes can be remedied only by some kind of cathartic and cataclysmic world-cleansing event in which &#8216;billions must die.&#8217;</p><p>But, absurd as it sounds when you describe it literally, I think there is very much something to this. As in, I believe it taps into something a huge amount of people are currently feeling on some level, to the point where it actively drives many of their actions and opinions. </p><p>I am obviously not the first one to remark on the strangeness or the ubiquity and popularity of &#8216;apocalyptic content&#8217; of various stripes (primarily expressed in films and video games) throughout the last several decades. Usually this takes the form of various narratives in which society has been decimated by one or another cataclysm, leaving only small groups of intrepid survivors to rebuild amid the ruins. And though particular iterations of this kind of stuff come and go (zombie franchises seem largely played out at this point), the overall genre shows no sign of slowing down any time soon. And for good reason, I think, as the &#8216;apocalypse genre&#8217; taps into many of the very real and deep dissatisfactions many (most?) people have with modern Western society. </p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>Hence why the apocalypse, though portrayed as a disaster, is actually experienced as a kind of liberation for many of the fictional characters portrayed in the genre&#8217;s various stories. </p><p>After the great liberatory &#8216;happening&#8217; event represented by any given apocalypse the stupidity and boredom of modern life are instantly and irrevocably abolished in favor of a new life of excitement and adventure. Characters are largely freed from the shackles of their previous lives, in many cases even including the baggage of the most supposedly sacred of family bonds, in favor of a now unencumbered future of independent survivalism and adventure.</p><p>In addition, our main character, almost always having the good fortune of being one of only a handful of survivors to escape death, has now experienced a profound boost in relative status. Regardless of whatever lowly position he may have suffered through in the previous dispensation, in this new apocalyptic world, regardless of how seemingly dire his situation may seem at any given time, he is now a &#8216;main character.&#8217; He is now someone who matters, someone whose words and decisions carry weight and meaning&#8212;someone who is going places and doing things.</p><p>I think the appeal of this is all pretty obvious and i&#8217;m sure other people have written about it at length due to this very obviousness. However, there&#8217;s a bit more to this, at least when it comes to our &#8216;main character&#8217;: Chudjak.</p><h3><strong>12 Years a Chudjak</strong></h3><p>The Chudjak&#8217;s authoritative command that &#8216;billions must die&#8217; reveals a desire for a similar type of emancipation on the part of the embittered right-wing anon whom he symbolizes. </p><p>&#8216;Billions must die&#8217; is a request for the cataclysmic event that Chudjak implicitly assumes would not only see those he resents (liberals, black and brown people, women, men with girlfriends, etc.) justly punished for their crimes but also the surge in relative status he believes he would also assuredly enjoy in the wake of said disaster. His current lack of which is the true basis of his assessment that &#8216;the West has fallen.&#8217;</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BpyP!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F850e0aac-a394-4e8d-baa4-ce9e37d7dfcc_874x1256.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BpyP!, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/w_424, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F850e0aac-a394-4e8d-baa4-ce9e37d7dfcc_874x1256.png 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BpyP!, 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A discontent felt by men in particular about their relative status (or lack thereof) in modern society?</p><p>Is this also not the key driver of so much of our unhappiness? And probably the best and simplest explanation for declining birthrates the world over (among many other social maladies)? Even at the risk of being a bit reductionist, I&#8217;d say so. </p><p>This is a truth that is often obscured by the economic arguments that tend to dominate the discourse among the allegedly educated and literate classes, which tend to skew toward both materialist diagnoses and corresponding technocratic fixes. In enters the everyman who says his life is much more expensive and generally worse now, and he feels much poorer and unhappier than his parents were at his age, and on cue the host will bring in some neo-libtard &#8216;expert,&#8217; usually potato-shaped, to point out that &#8216;ackchyually&#8217; per capita GDP is significantly higher than it was 30 years ago, etc.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!srMx!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F18874ef2-d7d9-4172-8a98-0662fb40288c_1400x990.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!srMx!, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/w_424, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/f_webp, 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class="image-caption">[Pictured: a member of the potato shaped neoliberal &#8216;expert&#8217; class]</figcaption></figure></div><p></p><p>In the economic sense there is a small element of truth to the neo-libtard&#8217;s arguments, but only an element of it. They end up obscuring the genuine economic and social concerns brought up by the everyman and are really a sort of semantic evasion of reality. </p><p>I don&#8217;t feel the need to get into why exactly your average neo-libtard expert is generally wrong about his economic assessments, as it is boring and also irrelevant to the point here. However, the bigger problem is that the very economic argument itself misses the point, as it is, once again, too reductive and fails to apprehend the real problem: that of <em>relative</em> social status. </p><p>And in a deep and abiding sense, it is truly the most &#8216;problematic&#8217; of all social problems.</p><p>Simply put, while in a certain and limited way a rising tide can indeed lift all boats economically (as in, we all technically have more &#8216;stuff&#8217; than our grandparents, aka &#8216;GDP,&#8217; etc.), the same is very rarely true in a social sense. Humans will always work to differentiate themselves socially, creating new hierarchies even if old ones are abolished. This is one of the primary reasons why any kind of &#8216;leftism&#8217; based on universal human &#8216;equality&#8217; as an end state (the most caricatured version of traditional Communism, etc.) is doomed. Even if the age of true communism finally dawned and resulted in an actual post-scarcity society, human beings would immediately go about finding other ways to differentiate themselves from each other, resulting in a new class structure (just one no longer based on economics).</p><p>A big part of the reason why this has always been the case, and always will be, is due to human sexuality. In general, women tend to pursue sexual relationships with men who are &#8216;more than them&#8217; in some important respect. In the past this has sometimes tended to be economic, but it doesn&#8217;t have to be, and what it is is very contingent on the values of a particular society at any particular time (i.e., if a given society extols the virtues of singer-songwriters and/or cardboard box salesmen, women will be more attracted to them in general, etc.). </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nvAL!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffd353949-63ef-41cd-a442-e547dbb1b48c_1250x1068.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nvAL!, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/w_424, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/q_auto:good, 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y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p></p><p>This is just &#8216;how it is,&#8217; and, yes, it does motivate men to strive for higher positions/take risks occasionally, resulting in &#8216;innovation,&#8217; etc., but just as frequently it results in stupidity, violence, or other destructive behaviors. </p><p>I don&#8217;t think one needs to imbibe the &#8216;redpill&#8217; or indulge in the intellectual slop known as &#8216;evo-psych (made-up bullshit that simply takes any given human behavior, however complex, and proceeds to make up a story about why it is &#8216; evolutionarily adaptive&#8217;) in order to recognize this; it&#8217;s simply a common sense observation about human behavior that pretty much everyone can see.</p><p>Thus, after a certain level of basic needs are met, human beings no longer compete over &#8216;stuff&#8217; (even if it may appear that they are); they are actually competing over <em>relative </em>social status, which may or may not be conferred by acquiring more &#8216;stuff.&#8217; </p><p>Being inherently a zero-sum game, this is a brutal state of affairs that is not particularly conducive to even superficial happiness for most people, especially when particular societies remove the various traditional barriers that had previously existed to tamp down on this frequently destructive dynamic in the name of &#8216;freedom&#8217; or other dubious concepts.</p><p>Hegelian dreams aside, the only respite for those wary of this, somewhat degrading, arraignment has historically been referred to as &#8216;the kingdom of God.&#8217; A state of affairs that, fortunately for some, has always been illegal in the United States. </p><p>But where does this leave our dear Chudjak? 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All of which have made extravagant promises to him: America is about to collapse! The economy will implode! China will soon collapse! Russia will soon collapse! The dollar will collapse! Nuclear war is right around the corner! WWIII is right around the corner! Civil war is right around the corner! A new pandemic is right around the corner! etc.</p><p>But it never seems to happen, does it? One <em>might</em> even be tempted to conclude that <em>nothing ever happens</em>. Hence we can see the Chudjak&#8217;s dejection at the repeated and continual failure of such &#8216;prophecy.&#8217; A dejection that leads to the bitterness of &#8216;nothing ever happens,&#8217; a contrarian stance taken in response to the incessant, algorithmically incentivized doomerism of the ever-churning content mills. A doomerism that our Chudjaks dreamed of for so long, cataclysms they thought might lead to emancipation from the tedium, sadness, and isolation of their own lives.</p><p>Of course, the truth is that both the &#8216;happeners&#8217; and the &#8216;nothing ever happeners&#8217; are both right simultaneously, even if only in a very narrow sense. </p><p>The end of the post-war American order (in reality an entire &#8216;life world&#8217;) is here, and it is happening right now, as we speak, in a thousand ways both big and small. A process that cannot be meaningfully reversed, even by someone with as much remarkable luck and charisma as Donald Trump.</p><p>At the same time, for our legions of Chudjacks, &#8216;nothing&#8217; will happen all the same regardless of whatever epochal historical events they live through. For in order for &#8216;something&#8217; to happen, something would have to not only happen, <em>but happen to them</em>. An exceedingly unlikely event even under the most extreme of &#8216;happenings.&#8217; </p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/p/the-real-reason-nothing-ever-happens?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/p/the-real-reason-nothing-ever-happens?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><p>The stock market could see a 70 percent crash, and the Chinese could sink the entire Pacific fleet, and still &#8216;nothing&#8217; would happen because Chudjack would remain a nobody. 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A shocking number of people read and shared them, something I admit I didn&#8217;t necessarily expect, as a lot of this stuff is relatively obscure. Obviously a pleasant surprise. However, I do feel it necessary to make a couple of points, partly in response to some criticisms and partly for the sake of simple clarity.</p><p>Unfortunately, this is mostly going to involve a somewhat detailed discussion of the goings-on of &#8216;the Thiel Thing&#8217;, in particular pointing out some of the more obvious connections between players. I say &#8216;unfortunately&#8217; because I personally find this to be a completely tedious task, like having to make a detailed case as to how exactly it is I know the sky is blue or that the sun rises in the east. In addition, it&#8217;s tedious because of just how big the Thielverse actually is. The Thieloids fund an immense amount of things; tracking them all down (at least the ones you can actually verify) is quite a bit of work, something I might actually do in full if I were writing a book on the subject, but, alas, as of now I am not (probably for the better, all things considered).</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>I feel the need to do this largely due to the kind of standard evasion you will sometimes hear when discussing such things: namely, the accusation that the 'Thielverse&#8217; itself is some kind of bizarre conspiracy theory (such as the response below, taken from a Twitter thread by <span class="mention-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Ashley Fitzgerald&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:31634346,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fda190bae-d567-4b9d-a184-09ca0577563f_1006x1006.jpeg&quot;,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;6526e7a1-540e-4f09-9418-619dd90d71c9&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span> ) which, in this case, is essentially the same thing as basic gaslighting. I grapple with enough of my own internal accusations as it is due to my Roman Catholic sensibilities so I have found this type of thing to be quite irritating and worth responding to.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kTVi!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb3cd7541-7e18-46cc-b344-6ec0b71fcb97_1178x328.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kTVi!, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/w_424, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb3cd7541-7e18-46cc-b344-6ec0b71fcb97_1178x328.png 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funny thing about this type of response is that it tends to come from one of two types of people: either someone who knows very little about Thiel and his network and has no personal connection to it at all <em>or</em> someone who is deeply enmeshed in the network and is actively trying to obscure how it functions (usually for the sake of people in the first group, the only ones gullible enough to buy the bullshit).</p><p>All that being, there are a few things I would like to briefly and succinctly state before we really get into some of the more gory details here. In particular, I would like to discuss exactly what I don&#8217;t mean when I mention the Thielverse or &#8216;the Thiel Thing&#8217; and its influence in American culture and politics:</p><ol><li><p>The Thielverse does not operate like a classic X-Files-esque conspiracy &#8216;system.&#8217; That is to say there is not a centralized leadership at the top of a rigid military-like hierarchy that gives direct commands to its underlings as part of a grand strategy of which every small move and event is but a part.</p></li><li><p>That being said, in the very literal sense of the term, there is very much a &#8216;conspiracy&#8217; afoot in the sense that Thiel and other key players do in fact meet and discuss their ideas and plans for the future. They quite literally &#8216;conspire&#8217; together in order to promote certain ideological narratives and build media networks to support them, back certain candidates for political office, and advance certain technological developments in service of a generally agreed upon vision of the future.</p></li><li><p>Nothing about this is really all that strange. It&#8217;s funny, the minds of many seem to bounce constantly only between two extreme and radically incompatible hypotheses: either uncritically ascribing to conspiracies that require the most intricate and insanely complex webs of organization (think 9/11 was an inside job, the moon landing was faked, etc.) OR believing that any suggestion of people actually sitting down and planning something in secret (something people of all types and classes have consistently done for thousands of years) is somehow inherently conspiratorial, merely the delusions of a paranoid mind. All this is to say that I believe the actions of the Thielverse are entirely rational and not in the least bit surprising. The ideology put forward by it (Gay Space Fascism) is, in many respects, quite attractive and compelling to many of its adherents. In addition, many of its conclusions about the nature of reality are extremely dangerous and controversial enough to require a significant amount of discretion when discussing them, no less when actually trying to organize IRL to promote them. Too often critics of the Thielverse (especially ones bearing detailed network charts) seem to try and imply that the very existence of such a network is some kind of sign of inherent guilt. As though the attempt to discreetly organize in service of an ideological movement is somehow inherently suspect. I write this off to the profound atomization of the Western public, many of whom are so alienated from others as to find the very idea of being a part of a larger movement to be almost incomprehensible.</p></li><li><p>I do not believe, nor have I ever claimed, that the vast majority of those involved in the greater Thielverse do so simply because they are being paid by Thiel. Obviously it's impossible to fully know a person&#8217;s true motives, and almost certainly a non-insignificant number of those who have gravitated toward &#8216;the Thiel Thing&#8217; have done so as a way of chasing social status, or online clout, or perhaps even some money. However I do not think this is true of most of the more important figures, the majority of whom are just as motivated by the substance of Peter&#8217;s ideas (both of the exoteric and esoteric varieties) as any other inducements on offer. I also think it is important to take people at their word and not accuse any of being &#8216;shills&#8217; without evidence, if for no other reason than that it is more interesting to interrogate ideas than motives.</p></li><li><p>There are a number of serious rumors circulating about the true nature of some of the relationships between Thiel, his senior allies, and many of the young men in his &#8216;court.&#8217; So far I have personally seen no <em>hard</em> evidence confirming these, however their persistence over the years, along with other circumstantial evidence leads me to believe it&#8217;s very possible there may be more than a measure of truth to them. That&#8217;s a longish way of saying: please get in touch if you &#8216;know&#8217; what i&#8217;m talking about and would like to discuss it privately!</p></li></ol><p>Now that we have that out of the way, let&#8217;s move on to try and describe what exactly the Thielverse is in reality.</p><p>The best way to understand how the Thielverse generally operates is as a two-tiered network. The first, foundational, and most important aspect of which consists of a massive amount of capital. This capital is active primarily in a number of key companies that wield an immense amount of influence in the real world. The most important of these powerful companies are active in the tech and defense sectors (Facebook, Twitter, Palantir, Anduril, etc.) in the United States and have, in many ways, begun to form their own kind of new &#8216;deep state&#8217; within the United States government. For the sake of simplicity, I&#8217;m going to lump the political activities of the Thielverse (including his backing of such figures as now Vice-President Vance) in with this first tier of organization.</p><p>The second tier of the network consists of the Thielverse&#8217;s media and ideological webs, which are significant and also are probably the easiest to really notice and understand.</p><p>Thiel has tended to approach his ideological ventures in much the same way he approaches his business ventures, with a venture capital approach. Put simply, Thiel is more than happy to spread his seed to the wind by funding dozens and dozens of different endeavors, many of which he believes have been significantly undervalued and/or ignored by others, in hopes that one or two may eventually take off.</p><p>This approach was obviously the one Thiel took when dealing with the so-called &#8216;dissident right,&#8217; a project he was deeply involved in <em>at least</em> since 2016, if not before.</p><p>It is also important to know something else about Peter: all in all, he&#8217;s a bit cheap. Especially when it comes to funding cultural and political movements. By cheap, I mean here that he does not take the more conventional route to political influence previously blazed by heavyweights like George Soros and the Koch brothers, individuals who successfully built up massive and handsomely funded nonprofit activist organizations with the sole purpose of advancing their own idiosyncratic political agendas. By comparison to such extravagance, Peter&#8217;s approach feels downright stingy.</p><p>However, this is not necessarily a bad thing. In fact, one can argue convincingly that this approach has already paid far more dividends for Thiel than the way of, say, the Kochs.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>After all, ask yourself the question: whose vision of the world currently has more cultural cache and political influence? Now try and guess what the difference in financial investment between Thiel and the Kochs has been. Now I haven&#8217;t bothered to try and calculate these figures, so I guess I could somehow be wrong here, but it has to be something on the order of 20 to 1 in favor of the Kochs.</p><p>One of the things Peter has learned quite well is that, especially in the age of modern social media, it makes much more sense to focus on building up networks as opposed to building organizations or heavily funding certain individuals.</p><p>After all, if one can build up an effective ideological social media network, it, in a sense, becomes &#8216;self-oiling&#8217; and self-funding for the majority of those involved (teach a man to fish etc.)</p><p>Hence why I had to laugh when Anna Khachiyan, of Red Scare fame, attempted to lazily obscure her connections to Thiel by claiming that she had never received any money from Thiel. While this is likely true in a technical sense, it also is a mystification of sorts. The primary benefit Thiel provided to someone like Khachiyan is not direct funding; after all, Red Scare receives an obscene amount of financial assistance from fans on Patreon as it is, but rather an alternative media patronage network that she could plug herself into as she transitioned away from the former left-wing scene she had previously been a part of. The same is true for the rest of the personalities that populate the Thielverse.</p><p>This network is part social scene, part fandom, and part political movement, and while not always directly funded by the Thielverse, it is heavily subsidized by it. Peter might not be cutting direct checks to the people involved in the everyday work of making memes or slaving away deep in the content mines of Twitter, but he is funding the parties and conferences they go to, the publishing houses and magazines that promote their work, and the startups that &#8216;employ&#8217; many of them. In addition, he also offers them something else, something much more important than mere money: access to power. Or, at least, the potential for it. Thiel is part of an incredibly influential network of extremely rich and powerful individuals, including both the world&#8217;s richest man and the President of the United States (to say nothing of the likely future President of the United States: JD Vance). Some of whom might even be willing to appear on your up and coming podcast and/or promote your content on Twitter if you have been deemed a part of the network.</p><p>For most people with the disposition to be interested in the things Thiel&#8217;s social media vanguard are, this is an offer that is too good to refuse. Outsiders for much of their lives, they have now been offered the opportunity to become the ultimate insiders, but not amongst the old liberal elite (the traditional fantasy of the left-wing adjunct professor, ever longing to be recognized by The New York Review of Books, etc.) but in something different, in something altogether new and thus exciting.</p><p>And under such circumstances, who in their right mind would turn such an offer down? Especially seeing as most of the so-called &#8216;dissident right,&#8217; particularly in its current incarnation, hold no deep beliefs, either of the ideological or theological varieties, in spite of much posturing to the contrary. Rather, they are driven almost entirely by a simple combination of dissatisfaction with the liberal order (that is to say: with their own lives, most of which are profoundly lonely) and a basic <em>libido dominandi </em>towards the rest of the human race<em>.</em></p><p>In this sense they serve as a perfect vanguard for Thiel, a fact made even more salient by the reality that they owe everything to Peter, in a not dissimilar way to someone like, say, J.D. Vance.</p><p>Again, though, most people already know this, at least at some level. Especially about the more obvious players (Curtis Yarvin, Costin Alamariu, Claremont, Passage Press, Red Scare, Sovereign House, Mans World Magazine, Palladium Magazine etc.), as it's pretty transparent they are all reading from the same sheet of music most of the time. Some journalists are occasionally worth reading when it comes to this stuff, but they are also frequently inflexible and lazy in addition to having ideological fixations that don&#8217;t allow them to fully understand the complexity of what&#8217;s actually going on. When it comes to covering these parts of &#8216;the Thiel thing,&#8217; I would recommend following someone like <a href="https://x.com/BasilianThought/status/1915902319381594261">@BasilianThought</a>, who I admit does have a bit of an axe to grind and who I frequently find somewhat obnoxious but who I also think does an excellent job of explaining the details of what he calls the &#8216;patronage network&#8217; of the Thielverse.</p><h3><strong>Here&#8217;s Where it Gets Weird</strong></h3><p>None of this, in and of itself, is that interesting if you ask me to be honest. It&#8217;s all relatively straightforward, maybe too straightforward. Weird rich guy funds a new political scene to advocate for his eccentric far-right views. In other news: dog bites man.</p><p>This is where it gets interesting though, at least to me. It of course makes perfect sense for Thiel to fund a cadre of <s>young, </s>errr&#8230; &#8216;youngish&#8217; (by &#8216;youngish here I, of course, mean middle-aged) propagandists who basically agree with his program of right-wing transhumanist, technophilic, atheistic biologism (what we call &#8216;Gay Space Fascism&#8217;).</p><p>What doesn&#8217;t make sense, at least at first blush, is why Thiel funds so many other political projects, including those that he should, at least theoretically, have contempt for.</p><p>I first discovered this years ago when it was revealed to me that a very niche and obscure political publication (and I mean very obscure) had gotten a major offer from Thiel. Now this made no sense to me for a couple of reasons: not only was it a completely obscure publication with no real possibility of ever &#8216;making it big,&#8217; but its stated tenets were also such that they completely clashed with Thiel&#8217;s entire worldview. Why in the world would Peter be willing to financially support such a publication?</p><p>As the years passed, I encountered this exact same situation time and again; it was almost as if Thiel was preoccupied with finding right-of-center publications that were philosophically opposed to everything he wanted and then giving them lots of money. For a long time I couldn&#8217;t figure out why he would do this, and then&#8230;it hit me.</p><div id="youtube2-3qSbYEbtfoY" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;3qSbYEbtfoY&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/3qSbYEbtfoY?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p>Now, I suppose this is just a theory I have, something I &#8216;know&#8217; versus something I can 'prove,&#8217; but I&#8217;m pretty positive I know why Thiel did this.</p><p>When one takes the king&#8217;s money, one inevitably ends up playing the king&#8217;s tune. In this case, however, I don&#8217;t think this means that Thiel funded all these places in order for them to push explicit Gay Space Fascist talking points on their unsuspecting micro audiences. Rather, I think Thiel funded them not so much for what they would say, but for what they <em>wouldn&#8217;t say</em>. In particular, any and all criticism of Thiel himself or his many controversial corporate and political projects, many of which might otherwise deeply offend the conservative audiences in question.</p><p>This thus allows Thiel to only have to focus on one front at a time, in this case his campaign against the left, without having to worry about any meaningful resistance or resentment from his right flank, particularly regarding issues like surrogacy and genetic engineering which he has put a massive amount money behind. If you don&#8217;t believe me, then feel free to try and get any sort of criticism, however polite or well reasoned, of Thiel published in any right of center outlet in the English speaking world (Reason Magazine doesn&#8217;t count), let me know how that goes for you</p><p>One of the best (and, in my opinion, funniest) examples of this was the recent revelation that Thiel was funding the red-brown &#8216;post-left&#8217; magazine <em>Compact</em>. A fact that was recently uncovered by the usually somewhat lazy liberal journalist Julia Black:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VdWm!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3e2f4dba-6754-4fa8-b3dd-b0f32ddeed29_1184x1214.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VdWm!, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/w_424, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3e2f4dba-6754-4fa8-b3dd-b0f32ddeed29_1184x1214.png 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VdWm!, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/w_848, 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say &#8216;funniest&#8217; because this example is the most elegant encapsulation of the entire phenomenon of &#8216;the Thiel Thing&#8217; that I&#8217;ve yet seen.</p><p>Here Thiel is giving an, honestly quite large, amount of money to a political magazine that promotes ideas very much in conflict with Thiel&#8217;s own stated ideology. In addition, it&#8217;s obvious whoever did the filing for him purposefully attempted to obfuscate exactly which magazine the money was going to. So much so that unless you actually checked the EIN, you wouldn&#8217;t have known the money was going to Compact.</p><p>Again, ask yourself, why is Thiel doing this, and why the secrecy?</p><p>And remember, this is just one example. A lot of Thiel money finds its way into people's pockets by much less direct means (usually through 3rd-party organizations). Most of it is on the down low (and I&#8217;m not just talking about money, if you know what I mean!).</p><p>Anyway, &#8216;The Thiel Thing&#8217; has earned massive cultural dividends for Peter after a shockingly small investment and thus will likely remain a fixture of internet politics for some time.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/p/notes-on-the-thiel-thing-real-threat?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/p/notes-on-the-thiel-thing-real-threat?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><p>Ultimately it&#8217;s important to remember that the Red Scare /BAPsphere /Claremont /Dimes Square/Leverage Research-Palladium Magazine/ Bari Weiss &#8216;Thiel Thing,&#8217; while in many ways a shiny object that is easy to fixate on, is only a small part of Thiel&#8217;s empire and far from the most important part at that. If these people all disappeared tomorrow analogs would be found in a relatively short period of time who would serve the same function at a comparable level of effectiveness. A fact that is crucial to keep in mind for anyone interested in effectively opposing, or even just understanding, Thiel&#8217;s world.</p><p>For we are aiming to gore the matador, not his cape.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Postscript 1794! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Costin Alamariu's 'Selective Breeding' and the Birth of Peter Thiel's Vampire Elites]]></title><description><![CDATA[Welcome to Hell...]]></description><link>https://postscript1794.substack.com/p/costin-alamarius-selective-breeding</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://postscript1794.substack.com/p/costin-alamarius-selective-breeding</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan Cioran]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2025 18:55:36 GMT</pubDate><enclosure 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y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>It&#8217;s been a while since a book really drew me in like <em><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Selective-Breeding-Philosophy-Costin-Alamariu/dp/B0CJ3ZDHF6">Selective Breeding and the Birth of Philosophy</a></em> did, and it was worth getting the new edition.</p><p>I read much of it years ago, but trying to do so with what was literally a bootlegged PDF version of the original dissertation was less than enjoyable. Still, it left an impression; I knew it was something I would have to come back to seriously at a certain point.</p><p>Before we get started, I suppose we should briefly discuss the obvious: the author&#8217;s identity. Put simply, Costin Alamariu is Bronze Age Pervert. This has been known for at least several years by most observers and even longer by others. Alamariu&#8217;s identity as Bronze Age Pervert (BAP) has been written about at length in dozens and dozens of various outlets, forums, Twitter posts, and comment sections. However, if you&#8217;ve been living under a rock for the past ten years and need some kind of explanation for all this, I&#8217;d recommend you read about it <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2023/09/bronze-age-pervert-costin-alamariu/674762/">here</a> or <a href="https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/07/16/bronze-age-pervert-masculinity-00105427">here.</a></p><p>That being said, I don&#8217;t feel the need to unpack the BAP lore or really discuss this online persona at all. It&#8217;s not particularly relevant to what we are doing here, and it&#8217;s a dead horse that&#8217;s been beaten about a thousand times at this point. Suffice to say none of it really matters; everything Costin did as BAP is relatively unimportant (even his role as a prominent Thielverse <em>caporegime),</em> especially compared to what he did in <em>Selective Breeding and the Birth of Philosophy </em>(which, by contrast, was truly something special and unique).</p><p>&#8216;Selective Breeding&#8217; is the caviar to the soggy McDouble that was &#8216;Bronze Age Mindset.&#8217; The latter of which, some unforgettably cutting and hilarious sections aside, can largely be understood as a kind of &#8216;Eat, Pray, Love&#8217; for middle aged sexpats.</p><div id="youtube2-V_B8WLV8F4w" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;V_B8WLV8F4w&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/V_B8WLV8F4w?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p><em>[Fwiw the best parts of &#8216;BAM&#8217; are better consumed via neros77&#8217;s Ocean Drive/Golgo 13 mashup which can be viewed above and is an altogether superior work]</em></p><p>While it may have begun as merely another tedious PhD dissertation, at some point &#8216;Selective Breeding&#8217; became something far more than that. It does not read like an ordinary dissertation, something Costin notes with pride in the new foreword he wrote for the new edition, now published in book form. He crows that fellow Straussian Harvey Mansfield told him privately that his dissertation was &#8216;full of sparks and fire,&#8217; and it&#8217;s hard to disagree regardless of what you think about Costin personally or about his political project.</p><p>The quick and dirty version of &#8216;selective breeding&#8217; is Costin&#8217;s contention that it is only with the discovery of the concept of &#8216;nature&#8217; (that is to say, in particular, the extremely immanent and biological reality of breeding itself) by the Greeks that philosophy can be &#8216;discovered&#8217; in the first place. This discovery requires as a prerequisite the usurpation of the primitive proto-communist &#8216;nomos&#8217; that rules tyrannically over all primitive societies. This requires either the arrival of a separate race of conquerors (who are usually some kind of nomadic steppe warriors) who arrive and effectively enslave the more sedentary and less warlike population, in the long run turning them effectively into serfs, which they then lord over as a new nobility. A nobility, it must be added, that perpetuates and refines itself through both perfecting the art of war as well as practicing the selective breeding of its members in a ruthless pursuit of bodily excellence. It is only within such a caste of human beings that any kind of worthwhile existence (including that of the genuine philosopher) can be found (as opposed to the contemptible state of &#8216;mere life&#8217; experienced by the vast majority of humanity). Furthermore, both Socrates and Nietzsche are aware of this and endorse this truth (the former esoterically and the latter exoterically).</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>Of course there&#8217;s much more to it than this, and it&#8217;s important that we dive a bit deeper on many of these points, as they are both interesting and extremely relevant to the topic of Gay Space Fascism (the primary, though not exclusive, focus of this substack).</p><p>The book is divided into five sections: a preface, the first chapter detailing the anthropological origins of &#8216;nomos&#8217; and aristocracy via James Fraser&#8217;s Golden Bough, a chapter on Pindar&#8217;s use of &#8216;nature,&#8217; a chapter discussing Plato&#8217;s Gorgias that uses a Straussian reading of the text to conclude that Socrates actually agrees with Callicles, and a final concluding chapter on Nietzsche.</p><p>I originally intended to try and tackle three of the five chapters&#8212;the first two and then the last&#8212;in depth while passing over the middle two. While interesting, both the chapter on Pindar and Gorgias are somewhat unnecessary and likely of interest only to specialists in the field of classics and/or Greek philosophy. Costin&#8217;s argument concerning Gorgias is extremely provocative, perhaps too provocative to actually convince the reader of its primary claim. It is, in my view at least, essentially a way for him to show off his erudition while also mocking the figure of Socrates (whom he transparently loathes). A figure, in Costin&#8217;s view, whose arguments in Gorgias are so bad and absurd as to force one to conclude he must have really secretly agreed with his opponent.</p><p>However, after finding myself 6000 words deep in writing this review I decided it was probably better to just stop there and perhaps come back to a more detailed review of the text itself another time. The new preface and introduction are jarring and full of detail themselves, in a way they &#8216;give the game away&#8217; as Costin is super explicit about his intentions and beliefs in them. Therefore, for my purposes, aside from the short generalizations I already provided, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s necessary to go into detail on them just yet. Instead I will focus on the remarkable preface and introduction and explain how their claims and ideas connect to the broader project of GSF and, in fact, are foundational to them.</p><h3>Preface &amp; Introduction: Compassion and Contempt for the Men of Western Modernity</h3><p>The new edition of &#8216;Selective Breeding&#8217; contains both a preface and an introduction, both of which are worth reading and contain important clarifications about the author&#8217;s actual intent and motivation.</p><p>Costin is extremely clear in both the preface and the introduction on several main points. Firstly, he claims that while he has studied extensively with Straussians over the years, he himself is not a Straussian. This, I believe, is the truth. Though he then attempts to defend them against the regular accusations made against them from both the Left and the Right (Shadia Drury and Paul Gottfried, respectively) in a way that is less than convincing.</p><p>Regarding the usual accusation leveled against them (that they are scheming nihilists angling for political power), he remarks that &#8216;&#8230;many prominent Straussians themselves, while disputing these accusations, do not actually dispute them. They enjoy the notoriety and the implication that they must be very powerful operators or Machiavellian eminences-grises. This is much better than the thought that they are an ineffectual ladies&#8217; reading group. They are so powerful that they&#8217;ve been almost completely eliminated from the few positions they once held at prominent universities.&#8217;</p><p>I mean&#8230;come on now. While this may be true for a few of Costin&#8217;s acquaintance in the academy, this is certainly not true in general, and he knows it. This is all the more absurd in the wake of Trump&#8217;s second term and the catbird seat the Claremont Institute (and thus many of Costin&#8217;s Straussian allies) now find themselves sitting in. Straussians haven&#8217;t had this much influence since the Bush administration (let&#8217;s hope that influence doesn&#8217;t lead, once again, to the same results).</p><p>Later, in the middle of the preface, he then proceeds to drop a bomb on his readers, seemingly out of nowhere, in many ways &#8216;giving away the game,&#8217; so to speak. Reading the preface and introduction is jarring, especially if you have already read the text itself, as Costin is extremely explicit about what exactly it is he is up to. This is a major departure from the text itself, written as it was as a dissertation at a liberal university and in an explicitly Straussian format. Thus, reading the new edition chronologically is a bit like watching a magic show where the magician tells the audience beforehand, in detail, exactly how all of the tricks he&#8217;s about to show them work before proceeding with the performance itself.</p><p>In this sense, Costin truly has abandoned whatever Straussian heritage he may have had, as clearly stating one&#8217;s actual beliefs is a cardinal sin in Straussian practice. Particularly when one&#8217;s beliefs are as &#8216;exotic&#8217; as Costin&#8217;s are. This is all the more interesting given that it now seems stupidly obvious that many of the beliefs, particularly those concerning human inequality, articulated by Costin in &#8216;Selective Breeding&#8217; appear to have now been adopted by many if not most of the Jaffaoids at Claremont (even if only still somewhat implicitly).</p><p>Previously, the old &#8216;esoteric secret&#8217; of the Straussians (of both the &#8216;East&#8217; and &#8216;West&#8217; coast varieties) was simply atheism. That is to say, it was known that Straussians viewed religion and, in particular, Christianity as a necessary noble lie that, while obviously not true, was still necessary for American society to function and served to stave off the ever-present threat of nihilism. A threat all the more dangerous in a vacant, consumerist society like America&#8217;s. Thus, Straussian practitioners were expected to publicly praise and defend the &#8216;Judeo-Christian&#8217; religion in public, while privately, only in the presence of other &#8216;lovers of the truth,&#8217; they could affirm the &#8216;reality&#8217; of the matter.</p><p>However, the new &#8216;esoteric secret,&#8217; at least of the West Coast set, appears to simply be that of human inequality (in no small part due to the influence of Costin himself). A &#8216;secret&#8217; that is particularly problematic for them to reveal publicly, as it is a direct refutation of everything ever taught by Harry Jaffa.</p><p>Coming back to the &#8216;bombshell,&#8217; though, Costin goes on to explicitly lay out exactly what his project was (and is) about in an ultimate sense:</p><blockquote><p>That the Western philosophical tradition as it came down to our time, I mean in the form of the Platonic-Socratic tradition; or what Nietzsche called the Socratic-Alexandrian scientific civilization&#8230; I mean that it was born in an act of rhetorical obfuscation and conservative cowardice: this is one claim of this dissertation. I don&#8217;t explicitly lay it out; much like the Greeks themselves, because I couldn&#8217;t. Critias, Socrates&#8217; student, was the Hitler of the ancient Greek world. He and his friends established a regime based on atheistic biologism so to speak; on &#8220;Sparta radicalized,&#8221; a eugenic antinomian dictatorship. He was maybe what Hitler&#8217;s most hysterical detractors claim of him today. Critias killed more Athenians in his short rule than died in the decades of the war with Sparta. He expelled almost everyone from the city, and burned the docks, which were the perceived source of democratic power&#8230;</p><p>&#8230;It doesn&#8217;t matter if someone like Critias represented a distortion of philosophy as it existed at the time, or a distortion of the idea of nature as biology and eugenics. The reaction against him, and the eagerness of other prominent members of his &#8220;tribe&#8221; to distance themselves from him caused an equal distortion in the opposite direction. And so Western philosophy was born in an atmosphere of hysteria and disavowal of a &#8220;Hitler,&#8221; just as much as there is hysteria and distortion around notions of biology and nature in our own time because of the events of 80 years ago.</p></blockquote><p>And there we have it! Simply put, Costin&#8217;s contention is that the entire Platonic-Socratic tradition has been, from the start, a kind of conspiracy to suppress the &#8216;truth&#8217; of atheistic biologism (which, for Costin, is the sole and exclusive truth of human existence). The entire metaphysical tradition of Platonism, especially the later development of Christianity, in this reading is merely an elaborate method of obscuring this reality via otherworldly mysticism in the name of preventing the abominations of Critias from occurring again.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>Likewise, Costin also argues that the modern western world has taken a similar track in regards to the &#8216;realities&#8217; of biology and nature in the wake of Hitler.</p><p>Both claims are provocative and audacious, but if the first is quite the bombastic reach, the second is, at least partially, true. The modern West, as we know it, was formed as a reaction to the second world war. This isn&#8217;t even a controversial point really, but what Costin is really talking about here is the complete abandonment of so-called &#8216;race science&#8217; and eugenics in the wake of the end of the war. Both things that were widely accepted and hailed as progressive and futuristic before the war throughout the western world, things that only faced disfavored much later due to the Third Reich&#8217;s actions in their name in the 30&#8217;s and 40&#8217;s.</p><p>Though something notably left unsaid by Costin is any kind of real case as to why those following in the wake of Critias and Hitler were, well, wrong at all in their (alleged) diagnosis of the dangers inherent in the atheistic biologism Costin loves so much. In both cases it led, seemingly inevitably, to wanton slaughter on a mass scale as well as the implosion of both of the societies in question. I dunno man, seems bad!</p><h3><strong>The Crisis of Sexual Inequality</strong></h3><p>After &#8216;giving away the game,&#8217; as it were, Costin then pivots to one of the topics that is probably the most written about cultural phenomenon of the past two decades: the implosion of sex relations in Western societies.</p><p>A sad state of affairs he believes is directly related to Western civilization&#8217;s great forgetting of &#8216;Nature.'</p><p>This is Costin at his most compassionate and thus, in my opinion, his most interesting. It&#8217;s undeniably true that the complete implosion of sex relations has been a disaster for all Western societies; not only has it caused extremely dangerous long-term economic conditions for these societies, but, more importantly, it has also engendered an innumerable amount of individual human tragedies (this will be especially evident to readers who are older than, say, 35 or so and have thus likely seen this happen to many people they personally know).</p><p>&#8216;Modern regimes have nominally experimented with something called sexual liberation, or, alternatively, with the liberation of women from domination by men and by traditional institutions. This is true not just of liberal regimes in the West&#8212;the Soviet states and the Eastern Bloc were in some ways even more advanced in this regard. But what has resulted is not freedom but rather despair, loneliness, and confusion.&#8217; Costin notes but then explains that by pointing this out, he does not seek to become yet another conservative defender of the &#8216;nuclear family&#8217; or the like. Rather, he simply desires to dispense with the notion that there are any easy solutions to this problem. Certainly not any that would be palatable to a modern liberal society.</p><blockquote><p>&#8216;Freedom from socially- and legally-enforced monogamy&#8212;one boy for every girl, and vice versa&#8212;has led not to equality and happiness, but laid bare the unadorned and brutal hierarchy of nature.&#8217;</p></blockquote><p>He continues later on in the introduction:</p><blockquote><p>&#8216;The most desirable males and females, who are in a minority, have lives full of sexual and romantic opportunities, adventures, the choice for excess, and numerous options should they decide to marry and have a family life. For the rest&#8212;for both men and women, the vast majority&#8212;there is lack of fulfillment, even desolation in youth, and, later on, unsuitable options and unhappy, very late marriages marred by resentments and dashed hopes. Often there are no marriages, nor any long-term pairings after a certain age.&#8217;</p></blockquote><p>A crushing conclusion. And really here, where is the lie? Is his assessment not entirely true? These are undeniably the fruits of the sexual relations created by the modern liberal cultural and political system. Neither is this a pessimistic conservative speculation; it has already happened. Many millennials, the first generation to really live fully within a cultural lifeworld completely created by the &#8216;sexual revolution,' are now well into their forties, and things are&#8230;well&#8230;fucking grim. A situation that is only going to get worse over the next two decades (one can only imagine the suicide rate among this cohort will be in the 2030s and beyond).</p><p>He then follows up this brutally correct assessment of the situation with an attack on both traditional conservatives and their ostensible feminist and social liberal foes for making what is essentially the same mistake when dealing with this issue. That is, namely, that they assume that the &#8216;traditional family&#8217; or &#8216;the patriarchy&#8217; is something that is more or less naturally desired by men, instead of a convention created out of necessity in order to entice men into marriage.</p><p>As he explains,</p><blockquote><p>Social liberals and feminists make the same mistake. They assume the problem is that men desire patriarchy and ownership over the wife and family, that men desire dominion over wife and children. They do not see these are, in part, methods some civilizations resorted to in order to induce men to accept the responsibilities of father and husband&#8230;</p><p>Modern societies are faced with men who either reap the fruits of sexual liberation through easy copulation, or men who for any number of reasons won&#8217;t or can&#8217;t put up with the stress of this chase and instead become apathetic, at least so far as women are concerned&#8230; <strong>The problem, as social liberals and feminists are finding out, isn&#8217;t that men seek by nature or education to dominate wives or children, but that men simply don&#8217;t care.</strong></p></blockquote><p>Here we have another 10/10 assessment. An obvious reality that anyone with two eyes who isn&#8217;t chest-deep in leftoid ideology can see easily by walking outside their front door.</p><p>Historically speaking, he is also basically correct as it happens. As he mentions in the book, the Romans eventually were forced to compel many men to marry, as extended and indefinite bachelorhood otherwise became the preferred mode of life in its absence.</p><h3>The Unforgivable Sin of the Christian/Platonic Project</h3><p>Of course, historically, Christianity did radically change much about this formula. On the one hand it radically equalized traditional marriage roles (men were now expected to be equally as chaste as women) in comparison to the pagan tradition while simultaneously also maintaining a pretty clear male headship of the family. This ushered in an epoch of mass monogamy in the European world, which would radically change societies and the individuals born into them in irrevocable ways.</p><p>For this, Costin will never forgive Christianity. While he sometimes likes to equivocate on the subject in an transparent attempt to maintain some semblance of peace with other factions within the online intellectual MAGA sphere of which he is a part, one thing is obvious: he absolutely loathes everything about it. At its feet, Costin lays the blame for all of the ills of modern life. As he states,</p><blockquote><p>The social and political consequences of the change described in the last two paragraphs are profound. Modern liberalism and capitalism, modern universal ethics or morality, are latecomers and piggyback on the fundamental and centuries-long work done by the manorial system and Christianity in reshaping and perhaps rebreeding European man&#8212;for there is strong evidence that many of the behaviors described, such as altruism toward strangers, are by now hereditary in certain populations&#8230;</p><p>Christianity laid the groundwork for the calamity of modern liberalism, modern democracy, and modern socialism, which threatened to destroy, maybe permanently, not only the possibility of philosophy, but of life in the full sense of the word.</p></blockquote><p>And here we can see it all circling back to Costin&#8217;s &#8216;nature&#8217; thesis. Christianity is vile, not just because it promotes a loathsome and despicable &#8216;slave morality&#8217; driven by thinly veiled resentment against greatness. No, its crime is much more fundamental than this: it has actually <em>misbred man himself</em>. Turning what was once a noble breed into some kind of misshapen and obese poodle (that is, into modern western man).</p><p>The solution to this massive problem, according to Costin, is, if not easy, at least straightforward: the mass application of cruelty and violence in the service of a new effort to once again properly &#8216;breed&#8217; a higher type of man back into existence.</p><p>Speaking of the magnificence of the ancient Greek city, Costin states (correctly) that:</p><blockquote><p>Simply put, behind this image of human flourishing lie generations of attention to citizen quality rather than quantity, which is to say, to eugenics, with all its cruelty, an orientation that never left the Greek world. Behind this innocent-sounding formula lie all manner of exclusionary, forceful measures: the removal from the city rolls of citizens who don&#8217;t live up to the moral, physical, and intellectual standards befitting a member of the polis; the ruthless subsuming of village life to city life; eugenics, infanticide, sexual apartheid, &#8220;classism,&#8221; &#8220;racism&#8221;&#8230;</p><p>&#8230;The corollary to all of this is that the Greek state or polis, which today we are likely to imagine as the origin of our democracy, was in fact nothing more or less than a breeding project for superior specimens.</p></blockquote><p>But even if one signs up for this basically correct, historical understanding of Greece, what exactly are the contemporary implications?</p><p>As Costin concludes: &#8216;&#8230;the net effect is <em><strong>to deny that mere life has any worth</strong></em>.&#8217;</p><p>&#8216;If one can speak of one type of life being superior and another being inferior, it&#8217;s only a few steps to this conclusion,&#8217; he adds.</p><p>&#8216;Mere life, a drudgery and bleak terror, is not worth the trouble. This is fundamentally where speculations about breeding, about human inferiority and superiority, ultimately lead,&#8217; Alamariu concludes.</p><p>Thus, we now are able to view Costin&#8217;s project much more clearly (thanks in large part to his own intellectual honesty and transparency).</p><p>He seeks nothing less than the complete overthrow of the entire lifeworld created by Platonism and Christianity over two millennia in favor of a new dispensation, a society based solely on the pursuit of eugenic excellence via cruelty, mass murder, and genocide.</p><p>If Costin has a teaching at all, it is this one.</p><h3><strong>Costin&#8217;s Role Within Thiel&#8217;s Vampire Elite</strong></h3><p>While it may be tempting to try and write Costin&#8217;s project off as some kind of &#8216;mindless reactionary screed&#8217; (the favored language of embittered and irrelevant leftoid adjunct professor types) or the like, this is the height of stupidity. Especially with the world standing as is, with Costin&#8217;s close allies now having ascended to full power in the United States.</p><p>Observing this is not to imply that &#8216;Selective Breeding and the Birth of Philosophy&#8217; has now become some kind of must-read or best-seller within the Trump administration or Silicon Valley; far from it. The vast majority of both sets would simply be intellectually unable to understand the real points Costin is making in it.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>Rather, Costin&#8217;s work is a kind of profound intuition of the Zeitgeist, a black prophecy of the new world that Thiel and others are working ceaselessly to birth.</p><p>His work is a prefiguration of the hell world of Gay Space Fascism. A reverse John the Baptist of a new gospel that any serious-minded Christian would immediately recognize as a creed of the Antichrist. The manic and possessed Renfield to Thiel&#8217;s placid Nosferatu.</p><p>Misunderstanding this state of affairs is the primary conceptual error made by almost all of Costin&#8217;s critics. He is not a &#8216;man of action&#8217; in any meaningful way and not getting this is a major conceptual error that can prevent one from fully appreciating his work. As a man in his mid-forties from an affluent background, he has had plenty of opportunities to have &#8216;literally&#8217; lived out his philosophy (which he has held since at least his undergraduate days) if he had so chosen. Starting with the earliest days of the &#8216;Global War on Terror&#8217; and carrying on through the current Israeli cleansing program in Gaza, there have been a number of distinct opportunities for Costin to live out his values ( i.e. the raping and/or murdering of various types of brown-skinned untermensch with nigh impunity, etc.).</p><p>As we can see though, Costin is someone who &#8216;sees,&#8217; not someone who &#8216;does.&#8217; This is his role, and it is a powerful one in its own way. As a genuinely dedicated and learned Nietzschean, his preferred weapon is the same as his teacher&#8217;s: a profound suspicion of human motivations. The ability to quickly ascertain the actual profane drivers behind the majority of even the most noble-seeming words and actions. Powerful because these assessments are frequently correct, leaving the target of his disdain with the crushing feeling of having been &#8216;found out.&#8217;</p><p>And much like Trump, the key here is to take him seriously but not necessarily literally. In reality, Costin is an incredibly lazy individual&#8212;for instance, there is a reason why there has been no follow-up to &#8216;Bronze Age Mindset&#8217; in spite of the fact that it is now almost a decade old&#8212;and also an incredibly lonely one. A single man now deep into middle age who spends his time jetting between cheapish locales (Tokyo, Madrid, Rio de Janeiro, etc.) to fuck hookers and produce low-effort (but admittedly quite well-compensated) podcasts. His current mental preoccupations having now degenerated to primarily being about the various ongoing feuds he has with other right-wing influencers as well as the various conspiracies he believes have been concocted against him by his foes (usually anonymous Twitter users with less than 100 followers).</p><p>While Costin&#8217;s current, freewheeling, way of life may perhaps look enviable from the perspective of a 25-year-old libertine at 45, to crib a Trumpism, &#8216;it&#8217;s marginal, right?&#8217; And the trajectory from here is bleak, with his story likely to ultimately culminate in the same manner as a Dominique Veneer (or perhaps a David Carradine).</p><h3>&#8216;Selective Breeding&#8217; in an Age of Gay Space Fascism</h3><p>But this fate, in itself, will not be the end of God&#8217;s judgement of Alamariu; the truest pain he will experience in this life will be watching his ideas be misunderstood by the nebbish dweebs of the online &#8216;dissident right&#8217; who are under the mistaken impression that they comprise some kind of neo-aristocracy because they engage in performative racism online under a veil of anonymity.</p><p>Perhaps the worst part of it all is that this delusion isn&#8217;t shared only by his online &#8216;frens&#8217; (whom he obviously can&#8217;t help but despise) but also, and in a much more earnest fashion, by individuals like <span class="mention-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Curtis Yarvin&quot;,&quot;id&quot;:8351821,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;user&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/968fcb6a-b557-4344-8c45-fcab5961e17e_329x387.png&quot;,&quot;uuid&quot;:&quot;3f265f0a-b0ba-4f79-8b01-ec8c12794f6f&quot;}" data-component-name="MentionToDOM"></span> and Richard Hanania.</p><p>Two individuals with long and colorful histories who have risen to newfound prominence in the past several years, due in no small part to the influence of Thiel himself, who has vigorously endorsed and promoted them. Both figures push the idea that they (and their fans of course!) constitute some kind of special new aristocratic class that is destined to replace the current failed crop of liberal elites and finally take western civilization to the stars.</p><p>They seem to be under the impression that their status as &#8216;elite human capital&#8217; (to borrow an inadvertently hilarious Hananiaism) has been bestowed upon them by standardized test scores they claim to have received on the SAT they took when they were 16 or the result of an online IQ test. This has to drive Costin absolutely insane; the only way he can possibly hide his contempt for these insufferable pretensions is likely heavy drinking. </p><p>For he can see through them; these people aren&#8217;t some kind of budding and vital new aristocracy; rather, they are precisely the opposite: a stomach-churning symptom of intense decay and spiritual necrosis. 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class="image-caption">[Pictured: the face of &#8216;elite human capital&#8217; in the 21st century]</figcaption></figure></div><p></p><p>Regardless, these are the individuals who, whether he likes it or not, will carry forth Costin&#8217;s vision into the future. And while they themselves may represent only disease, this does not mean that they cannot achieve a level of real success in pushing forward this vision.</p><p>While this class certainly doesn&#8217;t come anywhere near to embodying the noble cruelty, strength, and beauty of the eugenic Greek aristocracy of Costin and Nietzsche&#8217;s daydreams, nevertheless they will engage in a &#8216;selective breeding&#8217; of sorts (even if it isn&#8217;t one Costin himself would necessarily find ideal).</p><p>Massive genetic power has now been unleashed in the West, a kind of which eugenic enthusiasts of the past could only have dreamt about. However, this probably won&#8217;t become any kind of issue for a good number of years, until the children born through these new genetic selection processes begin competing with &#8216;naturals&#8217; and the differences (assuming these processes have indeed been successful) begin to show themselves in earnest and on a large scale. While there is a potential for a major societal disruption due to these changes, it is somewhat unlikely (barring a uniquely generous act of providence) that any kind of anti-genetic selection &#8216;butlerian jihad&#8217; will triumph in the West (though Eurasia is likely another matter). The culture of the United States is simply too steeped in folk libertarianism, especially when it comes to so-called &#8216;reproductive technologies.&#8217; This ironically includes almost all of the prominent left-wing groups and figures currently operating in the U.S. (who are likely to find themselves almost completely gelded by the end of the Trump/Vance epoch anyway).</p><p>Prominent Christians, especially those involved in GOP politics, will know better than to criticize this new state of affairs in anything but the most polite and precious way possible. This will particularly be the case after the ostensibly Catholic J.D. Vance throws his entire weight behind the new order, declaring it as an important weapon in the fight against low birthrates.</p><p>Over time this new reality will become ever more unremarkable, merely &#8216;how things are.&#8217; Ambitious parents will have bidding wars to secure the most advanced genetic selection and editing techniques to be used on the embryos they have had specially created for them and grown inside the womb of a lower-class woman, likely hired from the third world.</p><p>The children of these processes will then go on to take their place as the new elite. But unlike their liberal predecessors, they will do so without any belief that they are equal, at least in some basic sense, to those below them in the societal hierarchy, whom they will know to be objectively genetically inferior to themselves and will thus seek to treat accordingly.</p><p>This societal shift will officially usher in the reign of a new transhumanist vampire elite in the west, the same elite currently being consciously molded by Thiel himself. Hence why he has poured so many resources into promoting the careers of influencers like Yarvin, Hanania, the Collinses, and yes, Costin himself (to name just a few).</p><p>Given enough time, perhaps in as little as a few decades, this elite will grow to also be physically distinct from the rest of the population. Taller, with fairer and more elegant features, they will then proceed to live as metaphorical (and in some cases literal) vampires on the lower classes who have not been engineered to be genetically superior.</p><p>A similar phenomenon to what was seen in the dynamic between the Tutsi and the Hutu in Rwanda. A social system Costin promotes as a kind of ideal in the first chapter of <em>&#8216;Selective Breeding.&#8217;</em></p><p>&#8216;They developed a genuine racist ideology, taking pride in their slender, tall stature (some 15 cm taller than the Hutu, and 30 cm taller than the Twa on average) and their distinctive facial features (such as their aquiline nose) and looking down on both the Hutu and the Twa as coarse, ugly, and inferior,&#8217; Costin notes approvingly.</p><p>&#8216;The Hutu till the land, tend the cattle owned by the Tuzi and are the source of the surplus production on which the Tuzi live parasitically,&#8217; he adds.</p><h3>Eugenic Theory and the Geopolitical Outlook of GSF in the 21st Century</h3><p>Nor will this development be limited merely to domestic matters; indeed, geopolitical considerations are of primary concern to the Thieloids. In particular, the fate of the Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank, of whom Thielworld has, time and again, made explicit their intention to promote the complete liquidation of.</p><p>This cause is one of the more obvious through-lines connecting Thiel&#8217;s influencer network: their unquestioning devotion to the Zionist cause, which is praised as a kind of Nietzschean triumph and model for the west, as well as their contempt for the Palestinians, who are cast as subhuman cockroaches ripe for extermination. This is also to say nothing of Thiel&#8217;s extensive direct business contacts with the Israeli government via Palantir, which works directly in assisting the Israeli military with the direct targeting of Palestinians in heavily built-up civilian areas.</p><p>It should be noted that I say this, not as some kind of Palestinian partisan or activist, but merely as a relatively neutral (at least in this case) observer of reality.</p><p>The second and third geopolitical causes dear to the heart of Thielworld, even if they aren&#8217;t fully on the front burner just quite yet, are 1) the pursuit of conflict with China in both the civilian and military realms, a cause that increasingly unites the American Right as a whole and that Thielworld is set to profit handsomely from. A conflict which, it should be noted, is driven as much by ideology as it is by pursuit of profit. And; 2) The depopulation of the African continent.</p><p>Now I realize the latter is quite ironic, especially in light of the fact that right-wingers in the U.S. have spent years accusing figures like Bill Gates (not entirely incorrectly) of also attempting to depopulate the world (starting in Africa), in addition to their newfound concern over declining birthrates.</p><p>However, this issue is relatively straightforward if you look at it the right way. Depending on your perspective, the earth can be both overpopulated and underpopulated simultaneously. As in, being overpopulated with the wrong kind of people while also being underpopulated with the right kind of people. In fact, I think this is actually how the vast majority of the people in the Western world who go on about birthrates actually view the issue (though few have the courage to articulate this openly). The sticky part of most people involved in this discourse, of course, is determining exactly what constitutes the &#8216;right&#8217; and &#8216;wrong&#8217; sort of person.</p><p>For Costin the answer is simple: when it comes to disposing of the &#8216;wrong&#8217; sort of people, start with the blacks.</p><p>As he explains in &#8216;Selective Breeding,&#8217; it is his view (one he contends is now backed up by science) that sub-Saharan blacks are so genetically distant from the rest of humanity that they essentially comprise a separate subspecies:</p><blockquote><p>The second finding came thanks to the very rapid development of human population genetics, in large part due to new DNA sequencing techniques that were not available before. Here, the titanic work of Cavalli-Sforza above all definitively killed Lewontin&#8217;s Lie: the mendacious clich&#233; that there is more genetic variation within races than between them. We now have a very minute understanding of the considerable genetic diversity between historical population groups. <strong>Black Africans, in particular, are so divergent from the rest of humanity that they exceed the threshold commonly used in other species to draw sub-species boundaries.</strong> A revelation as shocking as it is by now indisputable.</p></blockquote><p>It should be noted that this view tends to be shared widely across the Thielverse among a host of figures, including Curtis Yarvin.</p><p>While Yarvin has certainly spoken on these issues before, I have a hard time remembering him speaking as clearly as he did recently during an interview with Michael Malice (admittedly I have not read the entirety of Yarvin&#8217;s multi-million-word corpus, so I could be missing something) on the topic. Quoting him here is difficult as Yarvin never shuts up and rambles on forever; however, I will do my best to make it somewhat abbreviated and digestible here.</p><p>While discussing recently published findings in Science magazine regarding the discovery of &#8216;ghost DNA&#8217; from a previously unknown hominid that, at some time in the distant past, interbred with sub-Saharan African populations in the process of contributing a significant amount of their unique genetic material, Yarvin notes:</p><blockquote><p>Listen very carefully to the words I'm about to tell you. The contribution of archaic hominins<strong> </strong>to the genetic variation of present day Africans remains poorly understood. &#8230;Next sentence our analyses of site frequency Spectra indicate that these populations meaning, African populations West African populations, derive two to 19% that's some wide error bars folks 2 to 19% that means as little as two as many as 19 but we're coming in around 10 to 12 of their genetic ancestry from an archaic population that diverged before the split of Neanderthals and modern humans. More methods follow and then finally the wonderful closing sentence: <strong>our results reveal the substantial contribution of archaic ancestry in shaping the gene pool of present day West African populations.</strong></p></blockquote><div id="youtube2-rMJegHG9fIM" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;rMJegHG9fIM&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:&quot;157&quot;,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/rMJegHG9fIM?start=157&amp;rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p>Yarvin then goes on to note how Science magazine is now, ironically, coming to the same conclusions as &#8216;your racist uncle Roy.&#8217;</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;It's strange because it reminds us of our racist Uncle Roy and inevitably reminds us of our racist Uncle Roy who is not a reader of Science magazine. How did he get this information? How did he know? That's the question we have to answer.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>The thing is, what Yarvin is saying here regarding newfound discoveries in genetics that have revealed the fact that there was a significant amount of inbreeding between various human populations and different groups of nonhuman hominids, a fact that is now attested to in the DNA of modern humans, is well&#8230;true.</p><p>While these discoveries have come relatively recent, much of them having come in the past decade, the information has spread rapidly online even while being at least partially suppressed by power centers of the left of center media.</p><p>Needless to say, the implications of these disquieting revelation are not compatible in any way with traditional &#8216;blank slate&#8217; liberalism and will likely be viewed as a major cause of the definitive end of the liberal era in future histories, in addition to leading to society wide rebirth of explicit racism, especially toward those of West African descent.</p><p>Regardless, the conclusions Costin (and, I would argue, most of the Thielverse) has drawn from these new discoveries are extremely unsubtle. Namely an explicit call for the liquidation of the vast majority of the population of the African continent via mass starvation.</p><p>Alamariu waxes on about this at length and in detail during episode 136 of his Caribbean Rhythms podcast.</p><p>While criticizing the &#8216;Christian Right&#8217; for prioritizing abortion, he <a href="https://glycineputler.libsyn.com/caribbean-rhythms-with-bap-episode-136-carl-schmitt">notes:</a></p><blockquote><p>When I see this, and all they focus on is this one matter. <strong>As if the bible means to them multiply Tropical West African life indiscriminately. Feed it fried food</strong>&#8230;and when I talk about such thing, as many will know, though they lie about what I say. It&#8217;s not that I promote genocide as if I had the ability or wish to do such a thing now or in the next century but to ask: what do you plan to do about the global south when it inevitably reaches point of collapse and starvation? In other words, 90 percent of you are so happy to celebrate the multiplication of &#8216;POC&#8217; life in the United States, probably in Europe too for whatever reason you&#8217;re doing it. What will you do when that happens? When mass starvation in the global south? Because the pieces are already in place for such an overthrow of civilization. Many factions now talk about &#8216;climate migration&#8217; and such things. And what I mean is, that at the first plausible case that can be made that mass starvation looms for the global south. There will be calls for Europe and America to open its doors to tens of millions at least, and what do you plan to do then? Because those people are also innocent, many of them can be propagandized to be &#8216;Oh they&#8217;re your co-religionists. Oh Christ-first, they&#8217;re fellow Christians. What are you going to look the other way Christian man and watch them die?&#8217; This is the kind of manipulation, <strong>because I think you should let them die.</strong> And China and most of Asia will let them die, they will look the other way. Can you look the other way as possibly tens or hundreds of millions of people perish from inevitable starvation and such thing? This is my question, and I think you know the answer&#8230;</p></blockquote><p>Of course, such ideas have long been a part of the far-right imaginarium since at least Lothrop Stoddard (if not before), but they are a major feature of Costin&#8217;s thought (and the broader thought of Thielworld as a whole). In the view of the Thielverse, the primary fault line in 21st-century geopolitics is one between the forces of a spiritually exhausted western world vs. the dangerous, backwards, and overpopulated hordes of the global south who threaten to invade the Western world and despoil it fully, like a mass of insatiable human locusts. This puts them, it should be noted, into direct conflict with the current Eurasian powers, who have been pursuing a long-term strategy of allying with the global south against what they view as the menace of western imperialism. In the long run, these forces (loathed and hated by all right-thinking Thieloids as &#8216;third worldists&#8217; and the like.) will likely be the only force left to oppose Gay Space Fascism in any kind of meaningful way (western liberalism having already been both spiritually and literally defeated).</p><p>And on that note, it&#8217;s best we wind this post down. It&#8217;s not the exhaustive commentary I initially planned on writing, but there is simply too much to cover in one go. I&#8217;ve obviously left out some of the more interesting (but for our purposes, not really relevant) points Costin makes in the book. Still, I think I have effectively conveyed the &#8216;gist&#8217; of his argument, at least the part that is relevant in the sense of being likely to have ongoing influence in the wider world.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/p/costin-alamarius-selective-breeding?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/p/costin-alamarius-selective-breeding?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><p>As for the author himself, I have tried to portray his views as honestly as possible without indulging in too much moralizing or alarmism. In my view, Costin himself is not an important figure per se, a fact too often obscured by the obsessive media coverage of him. It is only due to his alliance with Thielworld that he is anything more than an eccentric and amusing online personality. At best a kind of 21st-century William S. Burroughs preaching a &#8216;retvrn&#8217; to his anti-gospel of the bathhouse.</p><p>Still, like it or not, Costin has managed to become much more than just an offbeat literary figure. He has a keen understanding of the dark energies now flowing through contemporary western societies and their broader implications going forward. In addition, he has helped to lay the conceptual and moral groundwork (such as it is) for the Gay Space Fascist elite class going forward. A new caste whose intellectual dispositions, preoccupations, and perversities will have immense influence in the world they will reign over in the course of the next several decades. An era to be marked by widespread and profound cruelty, abomination, and murder. Profanities that Costin has now provided the intellectual and philosophical justification for enacting.</p><p>A crime for which he, and Peter as well, will not escape judgement for. </p><p>In this life and the next.</p><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;58148eff-638e-4b74-8c61-ac50758457d3&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Trump's New EO and the REAL Reason Elon Musk Prefers to Use IVF]]></title><description><![CDATA[The New Age of Genetic Screening Has Arrived; Can We Stop It?]]></description><link>https://postscript1794.substack.com/p/trumps-new-eo-and-the-real-reason</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://postscript1794.substack.com/p/trumps-new-eo-and-the-real-reason</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan Cioran]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 21 Feb 2025 19:39:34 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5655!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe77ccae2-5d94-48ce-869c-c8b7ea7018c6_1020x766.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5655!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe77ccae2-5d94-48ce-869c-c8b7ea7018c6_1020x766.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5655!, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/w_424, 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class="image-caption">[Photo Credit: by The White House]</figcaption></figure></div><p>As we all now know, on Tuesday <a href="https://x.com/ABCPolitics/status/1891963940734713954">Trump signed </a>a new executive order that directs the Department of Health and Human Services to develop policy recommendations focused on reducing out-of-pocket costs for IVF.</p><p>In addition, the administration is also now looking at ways to broaden healthcare coverage for IVF procedures.</p><p>While Trump made no secret of his support for IVF on the campaign trail, in spite of the impotent howls of protestation from professional pro-lifers, the extent of the order is somewhat surprising and tells us a lot about the way things are heading.</p><p>The order sets a new standard, not only for the GOP itself, but for the federal government as a whole. IVF is now not just something that should be protected and exempted from any pro-life enthusiasms; rather, it is now a positive good that should be actively promoted.</p><p>We are truly not in Kansas anymore, are we? When coupled with the recent &#8216;new right&#8217; (that is to say, more formally, &#8216;Gay Space Fascist&#8217;) obsession with &#8216;pro-natalism,&#8217; the direction all this is heading in becomes quite clear.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>Perhaps no other topic has been more discussed in the past two years than &#8216;pro-natalism&#8217; in conservative circles. This is not an exaggeration; it&#8217;s a genre of writing and podcasting that seems to have taken over everything.</p><p>I intend on this being a relatively short post, so I won&#8217;t do a deep dive on the subject of birthrate collapse just yet; however, I think I can state a couple of things relatively confidently about the phenomenon: 1) It&#8217;s a very real problem. 2) Its causes are a combination of economic and cultural factors; however, it is largely due to the inability or unwillingness of a significant amount of the population to romantically pair off. 3) There aren&#8217;t a whole lot of easy policy solutions to the problem that can be implemented on, say, the federal level.</p><p>All this being said, it seems obvious that the Trump admin is attempting to &#8216;innovate&#8217; its way out of what would otherwise be an intractable problem (especially if one rejects the failed liberal idea to address the issue: unrestricted immigration). All other solutions to the problem (economic incentives and the like) have been shown to have, at best, marginal results to the upside. Hence why it's a bit of a &#8216;no-brainer&#8217; that Trump and co. would choose to pluck the low-hanging fruit of IVF. In vitro fertilization, while currently quite expensive for regular people, has shown an extremely high rate of success with enabling infertile couples (of a variety of ages and sexual orientations) to successfully conceive and bring to term genetic offspring. The use of surrogates (&#8216;hosts&#8217;?), a radically new development that seems to have spread with lightning speed over the past five years or so, has only made this procedure more alluring and effective in some ways, allowing many to bypass the physical aspect of motherhood entirely.</p><p>Hence why it appears that IVF is going to be pushed by the Trump administration (and likely the subsequent Vance administration as well) as a key part of the initiative to fight the rapid decline in births currently being experienced by the vast majority of the world&#8217;s developed nations.</p><p>The fact that Vance is a high profile Catholic convert makes all of this somewhat amusing. There is no other figure that carries more of the aspirations of the conservative pundit class with them than Vance. They&#8217;ve all put so much hope in him; he is, quite unironically, viewed as the chosen one. The one figure who, it is dreamed, will finally bring balance to the chaos of Trumpism and usher in a new post-liberal golden age.</p><p>The best part? Most of this pundit class has some kind of personal connection to Vance. Either they met him on the conference/speaking circuit, or they were in a group chat with him, or he came and had dinner at their house. In any case, not only do most have some kind of personal connection to him, but (more importantly!) he is now a powerful person. A very powerful person. And power, especially that kind of power, is like catnip to these people. It&#8217;s what they live for, they will literally do and say anything to be a part of it. </p><p>I do not say any of this out of some kind of personal resentment; in fact, the majority of these people I personally like, and, in general, I&#8217;ve known to be nothing but kind and interesting. However, I&#8217;ve also known them to be profoundly morally weak people. People who tend to be ultimately compromised primarily by their own ambition, a blind force which ends up crowding out all other concerns, including such trifles as truth and reason. 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class="image-caption">Pictured above: an ambitious member of the conservative pundit class</figcaption></figure></div><p></p><p>Regardless, all of this is to say that these people are profoundly and willfully deluded about the various choices Vance will make in the coming years and why (a fuller explanation of what I mean by this exactly will be provided in a future post).</p><p>But wait, there&#8217;s more!</p><p>The best part, in this less-than-humble chronicler&#8217;s opinion, is that everyone seems to be missing exactly what is the real problem with this development.</p><p>Unsurprisingly, the professional pro-lifers of the conservative movement are out there in wake of the news of Trump&#8217;s EO doing what they do best: <a href="https://x.com/conservmillen/status/1891973320599334958">making bad arguments</a> while completely misunderstanding what they are dealing with here.</p><h3>So Why Does Elon REALLY Prefer to Use IVF?</h3><p>Which brings us to the question implied by the title of this post: why exactly does Elon Musk prefer to use IVF when siring children among his ever-growing flock of concubines?</p><p>[<em><strong>Disclaimer</strong>:</em> <em>we&#8217;re going to have to file the following in the &#8216;things I know&#8217; drawer and not the &#8216;things I can prove&#8217; one. This is, admittedly, speculation; however, I also think what I&#8217;m about to write will almost certainly turn out to be proven correct. Or at least largely correct.</em>]</p><p>Musk, contra much of the goofier speculation online, does not choose to sire many of his children via IVF because he has some aversion to the carnal act itself. In fact, given what we know about his track record, he&#8217;s as enthusiastic about it as any red-blooded man. Neither, I would argue, is the primary motivator in choosing IVF an attempt to spare the body of the mother from the burden of childbearing, nor is it some kind of way to maintain a professional relationship with them (as was the cover story given for the decision to use IVF for the children he had with Shivon Zilis).</p><p>Now certainly there may be small elements of truth in any one of these stories, but it is surely not the actual reason why this method was chosen.</p><p>The real reason for choosing IVF is simple: it allows Musk to practice genetic screening on the embryos in question.</p><p>For those not in the know, what we can call &#8216;genetic screening is, in its simplest form, a kind of eugenics<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a> currently practiced by a number of companies (most, if not all, backed by a significant amount of cash from the Thielverse). One such company is called <a href="https://www.lifeview.com/">Genomic Prediction</a>, and it specializes in just this practice.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>It just so happens that the famous pro-natalist wonder twins Malcom and Simone Collins<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a> employed the company&#8217;s services for their own quest to create genetically superior offspring. Simone even interviewed one of the founders of the company as part of their seemingly insatiable drive to put out ever more content. The interview itself is extraordinarily informative and worth watching in its entirety. Hopefully, I will have some time to comment on it in depth in one of my forthcoming pieces on the Collins&#8217;.</p><div id="youtube2-8LXs0p3mS1E" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;8LXs0p3mS1E&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/8LXs0p3mS1E?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p>At a certain point in the video, Simone remarks that, even if she and Malcom had been able to conceive naturally, they would now choose to do IVF anyway, as the procedure is the most practical way for them to practice genetic selection. This is likely the same calculation made my musk and his various concubines.</p><p>After all, when you do things the old-fashioned way, you usually end up with only one embryo whose genetic traits are essentially fixed ( a major bummer!). You get what you get. However, when you do IVF, you create potentially dozens of different embryos. Embryos, which are all technically the couple in question&#8217;s children. Now, in the past, couples frequently still generally would just get what they got embryo-wise when it came to IVF. What companies like Genomic Prediction have now done however is to allow individuals and couples undergoing IVF to preform advanced screenings on these embryos. In any family, there is a significant amount of genetic variation; siblings are of various heights, have different eye and hair colors, and have sometimes radical divergences in intelligence and personality. The same also goes for IVF embryos (all of which are siblings to one another) but now the parent to be is able to see not only things like genetic predisposition to disease or sex but also even features like height, eye color and estimated intelligence.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a>  </p><p>The parent in question then has their pick of, say, 20 different embryos, of which they can then proceed to choose the one with the set of most desirable traits. </p><p>This process alone is profoundly radical and will have irreversibly destabilizing effects on the social fabric in the coming years. It is worth noting that this is a technology that is being employed <em>right now</em>; it is not some hypothetical that may or may not come into use in the future (such as the hideous &#8216;artificial wombs&#8217; already being prototyped by Thiel-backed companies and other, more direct, forms of genetic editing).</p><p>And it is here that we encounter the real issue with Trump&#8217;s IVF order. It is not simply that it treats children as commodities or leaves embryos frozen indefinitely or ends up destroying them (if only the problem was as relatively innocuous as that!). The <em>real issue</em> here is that at this point IVF is going to be simply inseparable from various forms of genetic selection going forward.</p><p>The demand for it is certainly there, especially once IVF itself begins to be covered by health insurance. And if you can screen embryos for diseases, you can also screen for a lot of other things; you can select for eye color and height and IQ too. And people will do this en masse as a genetic arms race begins within society itself, driven by the same loathsome striver culture that has hollowed it out in so many other ways. The end result of this will be to send resentment and hatred between social classes to a, as of yet, undreamt of level. With the upper middle class and beyond increasingly beginning to see themselves as not merely a &#8216;breed&#8217; apart from the rest but, eventually, as an entirely different species. A claim that, genetically speaking at least, they will have at least some justification for. Fun and games will ensue, likely resulting in a Hutu and Tutsiesque ending</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/p/trumps-new-eo-and-the-real-reason?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/p/trumps-new-eo-and-the-real-reason?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><p>In addition, the idea that the Trump admin or Vance admins (or even more outlandishly, the Democrats) will somehow come to the rescue and impose serious regulations to stop this kind of thing is fantasy talk. The die has already been cast, and on every side, it just keeps coming up Thiel (funny how that works).</p><p>But speaking of Hutus and Tutsis, I need to get back to reading &#8216;Selective Breeding and the Birth of Philosophy.&#8217; This was supposed to be a short post commenting on some newsy items, and it quickly got out of control (as so often happens). I will likely be back with a couple more of these sorts of posts before I publish the bigger piece on the various theories of elites which dominate the Gay Space Fascist imaginarium.</p><p></p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Now, I realize this term is considered somewhat triggering for Thieloids, as they consider it a way to shut down a conversation without actually having to engage in debate ( like calling someone a &#8216;racist&#8217; etc). However, I would like to put forward two points in my defense 1) I am using it here merely as a descriptor not as a pejorative. A form of conscious eugenics is simply what is going on in this process. 2) I don&#8217;t care.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>For the record, I find myself enjoying a lot of the Collins&#8217; content, it&#8217;s zany and they are somehow likable in their own, profoundly nerdy, way. In addition, they are extremely earnest about their cause. All that being said, the fact remains that their project, as a whole, is profoundly sinister and will have extraordinarily negative consequences for our society in the coming years.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>For the record the Genomic Prediction founder being interviewed claims in the video that, while the company has the technology to see the eye color, height and intelligence of embryos, the company does not offer this service as it does not believe the world is currently &#8216;ready&#8217; for such options. I&#8217;ll admit that I simply don&#8217;t believe this at all. Or, rather, to the extent that I do I&#8217;d wager its selectively enforced. Perhaps applied to normies but exceptions are surely made for clients of note.</p><p></p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[How Gay Space Fascism Won the Future]]></title><description><![CDATA[A screaming comes across the sky]]></description><link>https://postscript1794.substack.com/p/how-gay-space-fascism-won-the-future</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://postscript1794.substack.com/p/how-gay-space-fascism-won-the-future</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan Cioran]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 17 Feb 2025 18:06:01 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!U2nc!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1cb0c0c0-f5dd-4d43-ba69-ef371b52f923_1920x1250.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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class="image-caption">Elon Musk demonstrates his Neuralink brain implant working in a pig [Photo: By Steve Jurvetson - https://www.flickr.com/photos/jurvetson/50280652497/, CC BY 2.0]</figcaption></figure></div><p>As a famous, perhaps too famous, mid-century French author once observed in his under-appreciated book <em>The Rebel</em>: &#8220;The future is the only transcendental value for men without God.&#8221;</p><p>This statement was as true in his time as it remains so in our own. It has been true in the civilizational (or post-civilizational?) framework referred to as &#8220;the West&#8221; for at least the past quarter millennium. But what happens to a modern ideology that loses &#8220;the future&#8221;?</p><p>Apart from the twenty years that marked the interwar period in Europe, &#8220;the future&#8221; has been primarily the domain of the liberal left in its various guises.</p><p>It was famously a key part of all Marxist thought. The glorious future of pure communism, for the Leftoid, has always been the prime symbol that illuminated the rest of their lifeworld and imbued it with almost cosmic significance. The struggle, and the suffering and pain and even murder, necessary to bring this future into being was always justified by the greater good that the coming earthly paradise would provide for humanity in the future. In almost all iterations of this idea, the glorious future in question was envisioned as being brought about by technological as well as moral and economic progress. As Lenin famously noted &#8220;Communism is Soviet power plus the electrification of the whole country.&#8221;</p><p>Such thinking was, of course, not limited to Marxists or leftoids more broadly. It has also famously been the domain of America&#8217;s progressive liberal tradition since its inception, but this has been especially evident for the past 100 years or so. After all, they were called &#8220;progressives&#8221; for a reason.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>America&#8217;s liberal elite sold the country a vision of steadily increasing economic, technological, and moral progress. A progress which, for several decades at least, it could be argued they delivered on, even if imperfectly.</p><p>This was the &#8220;arc of history&#8221; argument that liberals frequently employed to argue their case. It wasn&#8217;t so much that their cause was &#8220;just&#8221; as much as it was simply inevitable. Perhaps a better way to explain it would be to say that they saw the two things as being essentially the same, or at least extremely tightly linked. If something was just, it would inevitably become the law of the land given enough passage of time, etc.</p><p>This rhetorical trick worked well enough for U.S. liberals during the post-war period and saw itself reach a particular high note in the years immediately following the collapse of the Soviet Union. However, the good times didn&#8217;t last. By 2008, real cracks were showing in the entire system, and, well, you know the rest. Now it&#8217;s Joever&#8230;for good.</p><p>There were many reasons for this, but a key part of the unraveling of post-war liberalism was how it allowed itself to lose any kind of genuinely positive vision for the future.</p><p>The liberalism that emerged from the Second World War was remarkably optimistic, not just regarding the prospects of the American project, but for the entire human race itself. Ask a right-thinking American liberal in 1946 to describe the future, and he&#8217;d describe a nuclear-powered, post-scarcity wonderland full of flying cars and labor-saving wonders. A place where the men speak Esperanto and then go on until they speak something else.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Lza8!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F755699f7-0031-43e3-b066-b24c418995de_1094x752.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Lza8!, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/w_424, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F755699f7-0031-43e3-b066-b24c418995de_1094x752.png 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Lza8!, /__u/postscript1794.substack.com/w_848, 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4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>This outlook seemed to have finally peaked somewhere around Obama&#8217;s first election in 2008, with its now retrospectively comical slogan of &#8220;Hope and Change.&#8221;</p><p>Sometime after this point, American liberalism began to internalize a much more pessimistic message, which it then began to eagerly promote to its adherents. Adherents who, according to this new message, were sinners. And sinners who had sinned greatly indeed.</p><p>Their alleged crimes were not only against their fellow man (or woman, or gender-neutral &#8220;person,&#8221; etc.) in the form of the now well-known accusations of racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, etc., but also against the planet itself (the rhetoric of global warming alarmism and various strains of radical environmentalism).</p><p>And while the former has been quite damaging to the liberal brand over the past ten years, I would argue that it was actually the latter that really took away &#8220;the future&#8221; for the liberal project, and thus was the true cause of its demise.</p><p>The late science fiction author Michael Crichton may have been one of the first to properly diagnose this during his famous 2003 speech entitled <a href="https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~kw/crichton.html">&#8220;Remarks to the Commonwealth Club,&#8221;</a> during which he correctly diagnosed modern environmentalism as being a new kind of nihilistic pseudo-religion.</p><p>Crichton went on to describe modern environmentalism as &#8220;one of the most powerful religions in the world&#8221; and &#8220;the religion of choice for urban atheists&#8221; as well as a &#8220;perfect 21st-century remapping of traditional Judeo-Christian beliefs and myths.&#8221;</p><p>More from Crichton&#8217;s talk:</p><blockquote><p>There's an initial Eden, a paradise, a state of grace and unity with nature, there's a fall from grace into a state of pollution as a result of eating from the tree of knowledge, and as a result of our actions there is a judgment day coming for us all. We are all energy sinners, doomed to die, unless we seek salvation, which is now called sustainability. Sustainability is salvation in the church of the environment. Just as organic food is its communion, that pesticide-free wafer that the right people with the right beliefs, imbibe. Eden, the fall of man, the loss of grace, the coming doomsday---these are deeply held mythic structures.</p></blockquote><p></p><p>While one can take issue with Crichton for any number of reasons, I think that overall it&#8217;s hard to argue with the basic diagnosis here. Anyone who left the house sometime in the past 30 years will have observed or experienced something like this in one form or another, I'd wager.</p><p>The real issue here was that this was all much more than just some societal fad, like yoga or crystals or something, as this worldview resulted in major policy outcomes in the real world, many of them negative.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>Most notably, this kooky left environmentalism resulted in liberals completely abandoning any kind of realistic energy policy, like, say, investing heavily in nuclear power (which is evil and against nature&#8230;or something).</p><p>Instead, large amounts of resources were poured into things like wind and solar, things that at best are ugly and inefficient ways to produce energy and at worst are actively counterproductive and in the long run contribute to societal collapse.</p><p>California is, famously, the poster child for this type of liberal governance. Solar panels and wind turbines are ubiquitous, frequently aesthetically ruining landscapes that would otherwise be quite beautiful; meanwhile, the cost of electricity is astronomical, and black and brownouts are relatively common. All this while the state mandates that all cars sold in the state be &#8220;zero emission&#8221; (that is to say, electric) by 2035. A goal that would create an enormous amount of new demand for electricity, demand that the state&#8217;s already highly overstretched power grid simply cannot even come close to meeting.</p><p>Nor is this kind of thing limited to just California or even the United States. Germany, under the leadership of its progressive government, has chosen to, in practice, completely deindustrialize its economy rather than invest in nuclear energy or buy Putler&#8217;s gas. A decision that essentially amounts to a kind of collective national suicide pact, the results of which we can observe unfolding right now.</p><div id="youtube2-d9uTH0iprVQ" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;d9uTH0iprVQ&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/d9uTH0iprVQ?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p>The video above is only about five years old, but it might as well be 50 years old given how dated it now feels. It shows AOC narrating a largely detail-free fever dream of what the doomed &#8220;Green New Deal&#8221; would consist of once it was enacted by, one must assume, a complete progressive takeover of all branches of the U.S. government.</p><p>There are a few things to note about the vision presented here, aside from the now-dated progressive racial fantasies (with the exception of the scientists shown early on, almost everyone is some shade of black and brown, which is obviously not exactly representative of America&#8217;s current population). But race baiting aside, the most notable aspect of the video is its implicit insistence on the complementarity of progressive social and economic aspirations and the quest to halt global warming in the technical sense. The primary delusion illustrated in the video being that a green energy revolution was not only somehow inherently linked to DSA-style social justice initiatives but, even more fantastically, that this revolution could somehow be accomplished without negatively impacting Americans&#8217; historically high standard of living.</p><p>The problem with this type of propaganda, though, wasn&#8217;t necessarily that it was somewhat absurd and unrealistic (people believe &#8220;absurd&#8221; things all the time) but rather that, for one reason or another, even its own target audience (various leftoid and progressive types) didn&#8217;t find it particularly believable.</p><p>Hence why you began to see a lean toward what can only be described as a kind of radical degrowth approach within the progressive mindspace develop over the past decade or so. An approach epitomized by the Joan of Arc of the modern environmental movement, the inadvertently hilarious Greta Thunberg. Thunberg&#8217;s message, along with that of groups like Extinction Rebellion (notorious for enraging motorists the world over), was that the only real way to stop the threat of global warming would be to radically decarbonize the world economy. That is to say, in practice, deindustrialize it.</p><p>The implications of this are obvious. So obvious, in fact, that a majority of regular people could easily grasp what was suggested by progressive environmental activists. Namely that their lives, and the lives of their children, were going to be worse, maybe a lot worse. That they would be forced to live with far fewer goods and services, in shoddier housing, in a stagnant or shrinking economy in order to somehow &#8220;save&#8221; the environment&#8230;or something. And that&#8217;s if they manage to avert complete environmental apocalypse. The attempt of the Democratic party to slather this particular turd in their characteristic marinade of empty beltway PR talk did nothing to prevent most normal people from seeing what was headed their way.</p><p>The recent battle over paper straw regulations, regulations that the Trump administration has now disposed of via executive order, left many brain-dead liberals befuddled as to what exactly the fuss was about, but in reality the issue served as a condensed symbol of everything that is wrong with progressive environmental thinking.</p><p>As anyone who&#8217;s ever tried to drink from a paper straw can tell you one thing: it sucks. Drinking from a paper straw is significantly less enjoyable than drinking the same drink through a plastic straw. They are slow on the suck up and quickly become soggy and disgusting, and that&#8217;s just for regular beverages; if you&#8217;re trying to drink, say, a milkshake or something similarly viscous like a frozen coffee drink, you can forget it.</p><p>Of course the real purpose of such a banal regulation was, as is the case with the vast majority of progressive regulations, to make white, upper middle-class shitlibs feel good about themselves while inconveniencing or, in many cases, straight-up fucking over everyone else. Of course, the same goes for many of their other initiatives, everything from progressively backed pro-crime policies like drug legalization and bail reform to advocating for the extensive use of pronouns to sex-changes for minors and beyond.</p><p>Hence, under such conditions, more and more people began to see that, when viewed as a whole, the progressive stack of issues (and racial and sexual identities) would inevitably lead only to a future where the vast majority of Americans would be sure to experience a radically reduced standard of living and personal well-being.</p><h3><strong>Enter the Thieloids.</strong></h3><div id="youtube2-hI9HQfCAw64" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;hI9HQfCAw64&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/hI9HQfCAw64?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p>Thus, I think we can obviously now start to see what happened here. With American progressivism having run itself into a ditch narrative-wise, there was a huge vacuum to be filled. And the first people to fill it would stand to reap outsized rewards.</p><p>Hence the entry of Thiel and Musk into the public consciousness. For once here were two genius investors and technologists (at least in the eyes of the public) who dared to fully and unapologetically dream of a world that was fully outside the progressive imaginarium.</p><p>A lot of this started, back in the Halcyon days of 2008, with Thiel&#8217;s early embrace of sea-steading, one of the early projects that showed he was interested in a lot more than merely making a nice return. No, Thiel had big ideas and even bigger ambitions. He wanted to change the world, for real.</p><p>Famously, Musk had similarly outsized ambitions, ambitions which I think it&#8217;s safe to say I don&#8217;t need to elaborate too much in general, as one can hardly scroll through any part of the internet or even read a newspaper without seeing or hearing something about Musk.</p><p>Both expressed enthusiasm for outside-the-box ideas and, more importantly, ideas that involved much more than just building new iPhone apps. Almost everyone is at least passingly familiar with Thiel&#8217;s now-famous observation that our current age has seen &#8220;innovation in the world of bits, but not in the world of atoms&#8221; and "We wanted flying cars; instead, we got 140 characters." (likely because these quotes are included in almost every longform piece written on him).</p><p>This forward-looking optimism (and an audacious optimism at that) was catnip for many disaffected Americans looking for some future, any future really, that would be less bleak than the one the Democrats were peddling.</p><p>This vision also synced up extremely well with Trump&#8217;s MAGA vision, which foresaw the U.S. going backward in some ways (reverting to say, 2010, on social issues, reshoring manufacturing jobs lost to NAFTA, undoing some of the ethnic diversity brought about through the past 50 years of immigration policy, going to Mars!). The rest, as they say, is history.</p><p>But there is a darker side to both Musk's and Thiel&#8217;s future vision, isn&#8217;t there? A side you can pretty easily see if you take a closer look at either of their projects.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/p/how-gay-space-fascism-won-the-future?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/p/how-gay-space-fascism-won-the-future?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><p>Simply put, the vast majority of them are implicitly elitist enterprises. Hyper-elitist in many cases, in fact, to such an extent that there is a certain culturally alien quality to it in America, but it would make more sense in, say&#8230;South Africa.</p><p>Of course there are exceptions to this rule, especially given the breadth and width of their respective portfolios, but, especially in many of their primary investments, it&#8217;s quite obvious.</p><p>This kind of hyper-elitism can be seen extremely easily with Musk&#8217;s more famous projects: SpaceX and Tesla. SpaceX envisions ultimately making humanity a multiplanetary species, but this involves an extremely small number of humans. Humans who will, no doubt, be selected for their many outstanding qualities. Only such candidates would ever be considered for a future Mars mission, for instance. Of course, this isn&#8217;t exactly scandalous on its own, but it is telling. When trying to take in the entire feel of SpaceX, particularly in Musk&#8217;s telling, it is sometimes hard to shake the feeling of that one being pitched something along the line of the Shimago-Dominguez Corporation&#8217;s vision of &#8220;A Better Life, Off World.&#8221;</p><p>This can also be seen, implicitly, in many of Musk&#8217;s other endeavors. It is notable, for instance, that rather than attempting to have Tesla revolutionize the car industry further by creating, say, a $15,000 electric car. Something that would serve as Tesla&#8217;s model T and potentially radically expand its market share and customer base.</p><p>Instead Musk chose to make the Cybertruck, something that stood at precisely the opposite end of the spectrum symbolically. An ostentatious and expensive metal monstrosity, which Musk himself described as &#8220;apocalypse-proof,&#8221; the truck is essentially designed to be a kind of civilian, street-legal tank that would only really be of use to someone convinced that the outside world is an inherently hostile place.</p><p>One can observe a similar symbolism in Musk&#8217;s so-called &#8216;Hyperloop.&#8217; The basic idea of the loop is to allow a small number of passengers to go from one point to another at extremely high speed via underground maglev tunnels. Technical feasibility aside, even the most generous estimates had each pod carrying only a small amount of passengers. Of course, the official marketing promoted by Musk&#8217;s company promoted the idea that the Hyperloop would somehow be able to move something like 30,000 people an hour via &#8216;convoys.&#8217; Of course, this claim (which would require the shooting of 1071 twenty-eight person pods per hour) was transparent bullshit. The truth was that such a technology, interesting as it is, could only really be of use to a small number of wealthy individuals whose primary interest in such a mode of transportation would not be so much its speed as much as its exclusivity from the dangers posed by the unwashed masses.</p><p>Like many of Thiel&#8217;s investments, they possess similar themes. Seasteading, and its spiritual offspring charter cities (aka seasteading on land), is an attempt to create a Randian &#8216;Galt&#8217;s Gulch&#8217; where the superior members of the human species would be free to create and innovate without the oppressive presence of inferior members of the race.</p><p>Similarly, Thiel&#8217;s biomedical interests&#8212;everything from &#8216;de-aging&#8217; to genetic screening to direct CRISPR engineering of DNA to surrogacy and artificial wombs&#8212;are all things that really are only (and will only be) accessible to a tiny elite slice of the globe&#8217;s population.</p><p>And this is all without even mentioning Palantir. Do I really need to explain how a CIA-backed company that is intended to engage in mass surveillance in both foreign and domestic contexts and use AI to enhance the efficiency of various kinetically based kill chains is not designed to benefit the common man?</p><p>All this brings us to what, I believe, will be our next topic. Namely the role of elitism itself within the ideology of Gay Space Fascism in a more formal and explicit sense. In particular, we are going to explore the thought of both Curtis Yarvin and Costin Alamariu. Especially Costin&#8217;s invaluable dissertation, <em>Selective Breeding and the Birth of Philosophy. </em>After this we will likely dive into the wacky and delightful world of the Collins&#8217;s for a bit before pivoting to some of the more nitty-gritty aspects of GSF, in particular, the details of its IRL networks of influence.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/postscript1794.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>I don&#8217;t have as much free time as I always would like, so this may take me a bit. In the meantime, I may send out a post or two with some links and a brief commentary on related topics of interest.</p>]]></content:encoded></item></channel></rss>