<script data-pm-proxy="intercept"></script><?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:googleplay="http://www.google.com/schemas/play-podcasts/1.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[Cultivated Wastelands]]></title><description><![CDATA[Сultivation of wastelands is the primary objective.]]></description><link>https://shanggyangg.substack.com</link><image><url>https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sPMD!,w_256,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F61cfb71e-8ba4-4a39-a405-00262857140a_1080x1080.png</url><title>Cultivated Wastelands</title><link>https://shanggyangg.substack.com</link></image><generator>Substack</generator><lastBuildDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2026 09:44:05 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="/__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><copyright><![CDATA[Shanggyangg]]></copyright><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><webMaster><![CDATA[shanggyangg@substack.com]]></webMaster><itunes:owner><itunes:email><![CDATA[shanggyangg@substack.com]]></itunes:email><itunes:name><![CDATA[Shanggyangg]]></itunes:name></itunes:owner><itunes:author><![CDATA[Shanggyangg]]></itunes:author><googleplay:owner><![CDATA[shanggyangg@substack.com]]></googleplay:owner><googleplay:email><![CDATA[shanggyangg@substack.com]]></googleplay:email><googleplay:author><![CDATA[Shanggyangg]]></googleplay:author><itunes:block><![CDATA[Yes]]></itunes:block><item><title><![CDATA[A dictator built a startup city, and it worked]]></title><description><![CDATA[Astana shouldn&#8217;t exist, but it does, and it thrives. Why?]]></description><link>https://shanggyangg.substack.com/p/a-dictator-built-a-startup-city-and</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://shanggyangg.substack.com/p/a-dictator-built-a-startup-city-and</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Shanggyangg]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2026 21:18:14 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hMrt!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8ae1be23-8858-49d3-a5bb-2109be9f0028_4216x2371.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hMrt!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8ae1be23-8858-49d3-a5bb-2109be9f0028_4216x2371.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Astana Hub in Astana, Kazakhstan &#8212; a city that shouldn&#8217;t exist</figcaption></figure></div><p><span>After being chased away from Malaysia by an antisemitic mob, Balaji&#8217;s Network School has officially relocated to Kazakhstan &#8211; a country that has a saner population and a friendlier government. </span><a href="/__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/p/ten-thoughts-on-balaji-vs-malaysia"><span>As I&#8217;ve written before</span></a><span>, it&#8217;s not perfect, but it&#8217;s a solid choice:</span></p><blockquote><p><span>Balaji&#8217;s plan B for the Network School seems to be Kazakhstan, which is not the worst pick. While also a Muslim country, it&#8217;s much more secular thanks to the Soviet legacy and doesn&#8217;t have an issue with widespread hysteria over &#8220;Zionism.&#8221; Kazakhstan&#8217;s own &#8220;smart fraction&#8221; minorities &#8211; Russians, Germans, and Koreans &#8211; are underrepresented in the government, and the regime has pursued policies to strengthen the country&#8217;s Kazakh ethnic majority, but they aren&#8217;t openly discriminated against and are generally doing fine. While in an inferior location &#8211; no Singapore nearby! &#8211; it can potentially become a magnet for Russian and other post-Soviet tech talent that is increasingly hesitant to work in Russia&#8217;s previously prosperous but declining tech economy for obvious reasons.</span></p></blockquote><p><span>Kazakhstan has also joined the ranks of developing nations that are </span><a href="https://www.gov.kz/memleket/entities/mfa-riga/press/article/details/194459?lang=en"><span>making an active effort to attract digital nomads with talent visas</span></a><span>, making it a relatively easy place to move to. And despite the -stan part sounding scary to most westerners, it&#8217;s actually not that poor &#8211; it&#8217;s a solidly middle-income country with a GDP per capita similar to Chile or Serbia &#8211; and very secular.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VEg2!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F90b0d1f0-838b-46b5-917f-3a9658e57768_737x752.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VEg2!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_424, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, 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6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em><span>Despite the country&#8217;s nominal Muslim majority, only 4% of Kazakhs pray 5 times a day &#8211; unlike the other -stans. </span><a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2012/08/09/the-worlds-muslims-unity-and-diversity-2-religious-commitment/#frequency-of-prayer"><span>Original Pew study</span></a><span>.</span></em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>One thing that&#8217;s interesting, however, is that within Kazakhstan, Network School decided to move to the city of Astana rather than Almaty. Because despite being the national capital, Astana is not the largest city in the country.</span></p><p><span>Almaty has been the capital of Soviet Kazakhstan since 1929 and of independent Kazakhstan until 1997 &#8211; when, in an unexpected turn, the government decided to move to what would become Astana. Despite not being the government&#8217;s seat for almost 30 years, it&#8217;s still by far the biggest and most important city in the country.</span></p><p><span>Almaty is home to about 2.3 million people, over 10% of the country&#8217;s population. Astana has been trying to catch up for the last three decades but is still significantly behind, with some 1.6 million residents &#8211; barely above Kazakhstan&#8217;s third-largest city of Shymkent, a deeply provincial place of little notoriety that some people enjoy but no one considers a start-up darling.</span></p><p><span>Almaty is richer &#8211; its regional GDP is twice that of Astana, and locals earn slightly more. It&#8217;s also a nicer place to visit and to live in. The city has a pretty and walkable historic center that Astana mostly lacks, and its climate is more pleasant. Astana is in the middle of the Great Eurasian Steppe &#8211; a flat, windy, dry grassland that used to be a perfect highway for Mongol invasions of Eastern Europe. It&#8217;s not too bad in the summer but gets really cold in the winter, with average winter temperatures of around -22&#176;C (-8&#176;F). Almaty, meanwhile, has a much milder climate, barely below freezing during the winter and warm and pleasant during the summer. It&#8217;s surrounded by beautiful, scenic mountains. Astana is surrounded by dry grass.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Rhm-!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F23f25dcc-0712-44cd-b0fb-7e589ac31e6d_1429x953.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Rhm-!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_424, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F23f25dcc-0712-44cd-b0fb-7e589ac31e6d_1429x953.jpeg 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Rhm-!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_848, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, 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class="image-caption">A view residents of Almaty wake up to.</figcaption></figure></div><p><span>Ankara is the capital city of Turkey, but if you&#8217;re an international business moving to Turkey, you are moving to Istanbul, and in general if you&#8217;re an important international person in Turkey, you are probably in Istanbul and not in Ankara, and if you are a tourist, Istanbul is your first choice too. Astana is Ankara, and Almaty is Istanbul. </span><em><span>Well, sort of, so far.</span></em></p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://shanggyangg.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Cultivated Wastelands! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h1>Why Astana?</h1><p><span>If Almaty is a superior city, why did Balaji choose Astana?</span></p><p><span>While Almaty moggs Astana in population and GDP, Astana moggs Almaty in growth. In the late 1990s, before it became the new national capital (changing its name from historic Akmola, which ominously translates as &#8220;white grave&#8221;, to Astana, &#8220;the capital&#8221;), it was a deeply unremarkable provincial city of 300,000 people. It doubled in the next ten years, and doubled again in the decade after that. Right now it&#8217;s x5 of what it was at the beginning of the century &#8211; a &#8220;hypergrowth city,&#8221; some believe. Almaty grew too, but at a pace twice as slow.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zVRi!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2a6be79e-b28e-46ef-b851-de37af2291c5_655x452.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zVRi!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_424, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2a6be79e-b28e-46ef-b851-de37af2291c5_655x452.png 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zVRi!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_848, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, 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Both Almaty and Astana grew by about 1.3 million people since Kazakhstan&#8217;s independence. Astana wins in growth rate because it started from a low base. Data visualization made with Claude</span></em></figcaption></figure></div><p><span>Kazakhstan&#8217;s government is also trying to lure foreign capital and foreign talent specifically to Astana by offering them a better deal there than elsewhere in the country. Network School has moved to Astana Hub &#8211; an international tech startup park created in 2018 that offers, on top of a nice coworking space in a developed neighborhood not too far from the downtown, very generous tax benefits, including 0% corporate income tax, VAT, individual income tax, and more.</span></p><p><span>But this little tax haven wasn&#8217;t established by the city of Astana. Kazakhstan is a centralized, authoritarian country where decisions like this are made by the president. So why does the president keep trying to prop up Astana rather than Almaty, a city with vastly superior fundamentals?</span></p><p><span>The answer is actually quite simple. That&#8217;s because </span><strong>the city of Astana exists as a deliberate project in ethnic re-engineering of the country.</strong></p><h1>Building a city to reshape a nation</h1><p><span>In a sense, Astana is a startup city &#8211; a startup created by Nursultan Nazarbayev, Kazakhstan&#8217;s former president and a dictator who ruled for three decades and shaped the country to an extent comparable with Lee Kuan Yew&#8217;s influence over Singapore.</span></p><p><span>Nazarbayev is an underappreciated Great Man of History. Gorbachev&#8217;s prot&#233;g&#233;, he was appointed leader of Soviet Kazakhstan in 1989 and managed to keep power after the Soviet Union&#8217;s collapse forced the country into independence. He stepped down in 2019 and appointed Kassym-Jomart Tokayev, a competent and intelligent man, as his successor, preventing a squabble for power that would have surely happened if he clung to power until his death.</span></p><p><span>In 1991, when Kazakhstan first showed up on the world map, it was a desperately poor country with GDP per capita of some $1.4k (similar to modern Uganda); that number has increased by a factor of 10 since then. A country that never really existed as a nation was put on the map as a secondary but very real regional power. Years of careful diplomacy also made Kazakhstan one of the few nations in the world that has great relations with both the West and China, as well as its towering neighbor Russia.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NqhY!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9c96cca3-0404-4365-aa1a-1eb14591d394_1600x812.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NqhY!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_424, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9c96cca3-0404-4365-aa1a-1eb14591d394_1600x812.png 424w, 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/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NqhY!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_1456, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9c96cca3-0404-4365-aa1a-1eb14591d394_1600x812.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Kazakhstan is the only country in the world that&#8217;s a member of US-led Pax Silica and China-led WAICO &#8211; two rivals in the global AI race</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>Another important thing he did, however, was establishing Kazakhstan as a country dominated by the Kazakh people.</p><p><span>While Malaysia is very Chinese, Kazakhstan is very Russian. Most people don&#8217;t realize just how Chinese Malaysia is (</span>23% nationally and 40% in Kuala Lumpur), and most people don&#8217;t know how Russian Kazakhstan is &#8211; and how Russian it was very recently.</p><p>In 1989, right before independence, <span>Kazakhstan </span>was 40% Kazakh and 38% Russian, and <span>Russians dominated in all major cities</span>.<span> The place was so Russian that Gorbachev broke with established Soviet practice and appointed a Russian to govern it (the locals protested, and he was eventually replaced with Nazarbayev). With another 5% of the population being Ukrainians, Slavic people held a firm plurality in the republic&#8217;s population, with a prospect of a Kazakh nation-state seeming increasingly unlikely.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iJIV!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F003f0586-6bab-4069-8d7c-ea75524e0b6d_2560x1864.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iJIV!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_424, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F003f0586-6bab-4069-8d7c-ea75524e0b6d_2560x1864.png 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iJIV!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_848, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F003f0586-6bab-4069-8d7c-ea75524e0b6d_2560x1864.png 848w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iJIV!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_1272, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F003f0586-6bab-4069-8d7c-ea75524e0b6d_2560x1864.png 1272w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iJIV!, 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/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iJIV!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_1456, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F003f0586-6bab-4069-8d7c-ea75524e0b6d_2560x1864.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Russians (red) vs. Kazakhs (green) in Soviet Kazakhstan in 1989. Russians dominate the country&#8217;s north and east, as well as Almaty (a small red dot in the south), and constitute large minorities in many other regions. Map by me.</figcaption></figure></div><p><span>Russians (and Ukrainians) have been settling the territory of modern-day Kazakhstan since the times of the Russian Empire, and they continued to move in during the Soviet period. Stalin also had a bright idea of using Central Asia as a dumping ground for ethnicities he wanted to deport, and that&#8217;s how Kazakhstan got very sizable German and Korean minorities (Stalin feared they might be loyal to Germany and Japan during the Second World War and act as their agents). Together they&#8217;ve formed the Russian-speaking, distinctly non-Kazakh community that occupied the same role Chinese and Indians do in Malaysia: they were the productive minority &#8212; urban, educated, working in more advanced sectors of the economy.</span></p><p>After Kazakhstan became independent, many Russians decided to leave for Russia &#8212; a lot of them still had families in Russia, and most believed they would have a better life there. Some Ukrainians chose Russia as well; some went to Ukraine. Most Germans were able to repatriate to Germany. Kazakhs also had a higher birth rate. By the start of the 21st century, Kazakhstan had a slight but stable Kazakh majority.</p><p>Russians, however, remained a majority in the north of Kazakhstan, a region that shares an enormous border with Russia. Kazakhstan is very big, and it has a huge desert right in the middle, separating its relatively dense, Kazakh-majority south from the Russian-majority north. So many of the Russians started to have ideas. &#8220;Russia is right across the border. We are Russians as well, not Kazakhs. Maybe the border is just wrong and we should move it quite a bit further south?&#8221;</p><p>While there was never an active, influential domestic separatist movement in northern Kazakhstan, it was never an impossibility, and it would have likely emerged if Kazakhstan was a democracy. And in Russia itself, a need to &#8220;return&#8221; this &#8220;historic Russian land&#8221; &#8211; rebranded as &#8220;Southern Siberia&#8221; &#8211; became a popular talking point among Russian nationalists. A disproportionate number of Russian right-wing leaders were born in Kazakhstan themselves &#8211; people like the late Vladimir Zhirinovsky or Roman Yuneman.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nQfS!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4fd305c1-caa9-42d0-bad9-4c7339a5b14c_1600x1125.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nQfS!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_424, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4fd305c1-caa9-42d0-bad9-4c7339a5b14c_1600x1125.jpeg 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nQfS!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_848, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4fd305c1-caa9-42d0-bad9-4c7339a5b14c_1600x1125.jpeg 848w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nQfS!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_1272, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4fd305c1-caa9-42d0-bad9-4c7339a5b14c_1600x1125.jpeg 1272w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nQfS!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_1456, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4fd305c1-caa9-42d0-bad9-4c7339a5b14c_1600x1125.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nQfS!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4fd305c1-caa9-42d0-bad9-4c7339a5b14c_1600x1125.jpeg" width="1456" height="1024" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/4fd305c1-caa9-42d0-bad9-4c7339a5b14c_1600x1125.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1024,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;acer120, posts by tag: &#1082;&#1072;&#1088;&#1090;&#1099; 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A popular Russian nationalist map that shows most of Kazakhstan as a territory that must be reconquered.</figcaption></figure></div><p>Nazarbayev made plenty of reasonable concessions to the country&#8217;s Russian population, including making Russian an official language on par with Kazakh, and was careful to never antagonize the Kremlin. He had no desire, however, to give away half of the country he now had in a firm grip to &#8220;Southern Siberia&#8221; separatists. So the Russian majority in the north had to be broken.</p><p>Akmola was right in the middle of Southern Siberia. It was 54% Russian, 10% Ukrainian, 7% German &#8211; and 18% Kazakh. This was typical for the region. Very importantly, it was just north of Karaganda, which at that time was the largest city in the north and the 2<sup>nd</sup>-largest city in all of Kazakhstan (it has since fallen to the 5<sup>th</sup> place), and some two-thirds Slavic. It would have been a natural capital for the rebellious Russian rump state.</p><p>When Astana was established as the national capital, hundreds of thousands of ethnic Kazakhs from the south of the country moved in, chasing economic opportunities and government jobs. A major Kazakh-dominated city emerged in the middle of Southern Siberia. It cut Karaganda off from the rest of the region, and quickly overshadowed it as the economic leader of northern Kazakhstan.</p><h1>Can Astana survive?</h1><p>Nazarbayev&#8217;s project worked very well. Southern Siberia was dead in the water, and even after Russia embraced expansionism and took the Russian-majority region of Crimea from Ukraine, Russians of northern Kazakhstan never followed suit. The country didn&#8217;t break into two halves. Astana firmly established itself as an equal to Almaty in its importance to the nation and is now even a hub for foreign investment. It&#8217;s impossible to call it anything but a success story.</p><p>But can this success be sustained?</p><p>Slowly, continued out-migration of the Russians and high fertility of the Kazakhs turned northern Kazakhstan&#8217;s previously formidable Russian majority into a plurality, and then into a large minority. In the north, almost all important cities are now majority- or plurality-Kazakh, and nationally Kazakhstan is now 71% Kazakh and just 15% Russian. It still has 3 million Russians, by far the largest ethnic minority in the country, but the separatist threat is gone. In a few decades, it wouldn&#8217;t even be noticeable.</p><p>Which means that Astana will soon have played out its role. A binational country was turned into a conventional nation-state, and the regional differences are no longer strong enough to tear it apart. So while now the government is still actively working to keep it growing, it&#8217;s not at all unlikely that in a few decades it will turn back to Almaty &#8211; which is still a much nicer place to live.</p><p>Astana is similar to Dubai, which is also a hypergrowth, international city that only exists because an authoritarian regime willed it into existence in the middle of a desert. It&#8217;s a great place for many people, and its existence is a great testimony to UAE&#8217;s tremendous success, but it wouldn&#8217;t have happened organically. It&#8217;s a desert.</p><p>Dubai, however, is already too big to fail &#8211; no matter what, it will remain a very important and very wealthy place for a long time. I don&#8217;t think Astana is in the &#8220;too big to fail&#8221; territory yet &#8211; it&#8217;s just not that big and important outside of Kazakhstan &#8211; and that means its growth is dependent on regime stability and policy consistency. Neither is a given.</p><p>At the end of it, Astana&#8217;s impressive growth is purely a project of Kazakhstan&#8217;s government and isn&#8217;t based on any sort of organic geographic advantage. Maybe at some point it will grow so big that it won&#8217;t matter. People live in cold places. Russia&#8217;s St. Petersburg &#8211; another start-up city that was created as a Russian wedge in the Swedish-controlled, Finnish-speaking region and was successful at pushing Sweden away from the Baltics for good &#8211; definitely shouldn&#8217;t exist in a place that cold, but 6 million people live there, with more moving in every year. Economies of scale can do miracles. Maybe Astana will get there.</p><p>I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a bad idea for a business to move to Astana &#8211; a 0% tax is a 0% tax! Almaty, however, probably remains a safer bet, and almost certainly a superior one for an individual digital nomad.</p><p>Astana, nevertheless, is also sort of a &#8220;you can just do things&#8221; story. You can just create a huge city in the middle of nowhere and change the ethnic composition of an entire country. You can make it a tech hub. You can have it compete with an SEZ with direct access to Singapore. Great things can happen in places you don&#8217;t expect them to &#8211; but they do, sometimes against all odds.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://shanggyangg.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Cultivated Wastelands! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[The power of socio-economic factors]]></title><description><![CDATA[There are ethnicities you didn&#8217;t even know were possible, and they are doing exactly what you would expect]]></description><link>https://shanggyangg.substack.com/p/the-power-of-socio-economic-factors</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://shanggyangg.substack.com/p/the-power-of-socio-economic-factors</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Shanggyangg]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2026 16:01:22 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DKXT!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb601fe06-1643-46c5-aa86-46704b98e233_1024x1280.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span>Yesterday, St. Petersburg, Russia, hosted a half marathon. 5 000 athletes, both professional and amateur, ran the traditional 21.1 km (13.1 miles) in the historic center of the city. Arthur Burtsev, a local athlete, finished first, running the distance in 1 hour 6 minutes and 37 seconds. None of that would be remarkabe if not for the fact that Arthur looks like this:</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DKXT!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb601fe06-1643-46c5-aa86-46704b98e233_1024x1280.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DKXT!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_424, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb601fe06-1643-46c5-aa86-46704b98e233_1024x1280.png 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DKXT!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_848, 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/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DKXT!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_1456, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb601fe06-1643-46c5-aa86-46704b98e233_1024x1280.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Arthur Burtsev, a Russian man</figcaption></figure></div><p><span>St. Petersburg, with a population of over 5 million people, is the second-largest city in Russia as well as in the whole former USSR (towering over Kyiv, Tashkent, and other national capitals). A former capital of the Russian empire, it is abundant in culture and history on top of serving as an economic heart of Russia&#8217;s northwest. One of the few things it does not have, however, is a large black population.</span></p><p><span>Russia&#8217;s larest census of 2021 finds St. Petersburg 92.5% ethnic Russian, with much of the rest being other Eastern European groups like Ukrainians, Belarusians, or Jews. This might be a slight overestimate: immigrants from Soviet Union&#8217;s Asian republics, such as Armenia or Uzbekistan, often slip through the cracks of official registries. But it is quite safe to say St. Petersburg is over 90%, probably over 95% white, the rest almost entirely being Middle Eastern and Asian ethnic groups.</span></p><p><span>It&#8217;s hard to tell exactly how many blacks live in Russia, but it isn&#8217;t much. </span><a href="https://xn--90aeea2bghkbmep4j.xn--p1ai/ethnospb/etnicheskiy-sostav/index.php?SECTION_ID=&amp;ELEMENT_ID=1952"><span>According to a website called &#8220;ethno-Petersburg&#8221;</span></a><span>, there are 4 000 black people in St. Petersburg. That seems like an underestimate (especially considering a visible rise in black presence on the streets in the last decade or so), but the real number probably isn&#8217;t above the low tens of thousands. It wouldn&#8217;t be unreasonable to approximate that St. Petersburg is around 0.2% black.</span></p><p><span>5 000 people ran the half marathon yesterday, and 0.2% of that would be exactly 10 people. Common sense would tell us that blacks would likely be overrepresented in any marathon, and adjustment for age is also due, but it&#8217;s exceedingly unlikely more than a few dozen black people ran yesterday. So a few dozen out of five thousand &#8211; and yet one of them snatched the first place.</span></p><p><span>Moreover, Arthur Burtsev is 38 years old. While endurance running taxes age less extremely than most sports, it still matters massively. </span><a href="https://results.runc.run/event/spb_half_marathon_ss_2026/leaderboard/distance/517/"><span>Indeed</span></a><span>, athletes that finished 2</span><sup><span>nd</span></sup><span>, 3</span><sup><span>rd</span></sup><span>, 4</span><sup><span>th</span></sup><span> and 5</span><sup><span>th</span></sup><span> &#8211; all white Russians &#8211; were 26, 23, 28 and 21 respectively. Arthur is a whole decade older than the second-oldest athlete in the top 5.</span></p><p><span>Arthur was born in Russia in 1988. His father was a Bissau-Guinean exchange student in late USSR; after fathering two children with a fellow student in Leningrad (Arthur and his younger sister), he returned to Guinea-Bissau and cut off all contacts with them. Both children were raised by their mother, who herself was a Yakut &#8212; an ethnic group (also known as Sakha) native to Yakutia, a sparsely populated region in Northern Siberia, similar in size to India but home to only one million people, as well as the coldest inhabited region in the world.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v7Ih!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F56c2e38f-055b-43b4-b81e-9a14e94a76c5_2000x1000.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v7Ih!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_424, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, 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/__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_1456, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F56c2e38f-055b-43b4-b81e-9a14e94a76c5_2000x1000.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Basically, really far from Guinea-Bissau. (Sakha and Yakutia are the same thing)</figcaption></figure></div><p><span>Yakuts look East Asian, speak a Turkic language (although knowledge of Russian is universal in urban areas), and in terms of religion are not particularly devout Orthodox Christians with a modest pagan revival movement. Yakuts are well-regarded in Russia, not known to be particularly violent or criminal, integrate effortlessly when they move to larger cities, rarely show aversion to intermarriage, and have no particular beef with ethnic Russians or any other people. No one hates them, really.</span></p><p><span>What happens when you mix a native Siberian with a West African? Apparently, a Khoisan.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aHpm!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa53481c5-c668-4bec-b404-3e38924f8289_704x325.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aHpm!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_424, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa53481c5-c668-4bec-b404-3e38924f8289_704x325.png 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aHpm!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_848, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, 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Right: a Khoisan person.</figcaption></figure></div><p>Arthur&#8217;s sister, Nyrguyana (a traditional Yakut name), herself a champion of several local running competitions, <a href="http://m.sport-express.ru/athletics/reviews/legkaya-atletika-kto-takoy-artur-burcev-i-pochemu-ego-diskvalificirovali-za-pomosch-mamy-1946693/">rejects</a> the idea that her brother&#8217;s success has anything to do with his race:</p><blockquote><p>It&#8217;s complete nonsense that the color of your skin can affect your athletic achievements! What about Liu Xiang, a famous runner from China? As for me, I&#8217;m happy to represent my hometown and defend the honor of my ancestral land, the district of Ust-Aldansky.</p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rc0x!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2f1a4919-b157-4efe-97a0-1d5e7638693c_1037x1650.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rc0x!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_424, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2f1a4919-b157-4efe-97a0-1d5e7638693c_1037x1650.png 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rc0x!, 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Kenya and Ethiopia alone &#8211; two countries that account for 2.3% of the world&#8217;s population &#8211; are home to some 90 percent of the world&#8217;s fastest marathon runners.</p><p>Western Africa (where our Arthur&#8217;s ancestral Guinea-Bissau is located), meanwhile, is more famous for its diaspora dominating short-distance running: Jamaica, a country of 2.8 million people, most of whom are descendants of West Africans, is infamous for producing an insane amount of famous sprinters, including the current world record holder in 100 metres, Usain Bolt.</p><p>Arthur Burtsev has never been to Guinea-Bissau (although he has been to Kenya) and hasn&#8217;t seen his father since very early childhood. He speaks Russian with the fluency of a native, understands Yakut to an extent, and surely doesn&#8217;t speak Fulani. Yakutia, where his relatives still live (while he himself is a lifelong resident of St. Petersburg), seems to be very proud to claim him as one of their own, with local media closely following both his professional and personal life. He recently married a blond Russian woman and became a father to a, at best, very light-brown boy.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lx7L!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4789bd05-4b39-4838-ae38-912a7c169881_1170x1553.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lx7L!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_424, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4789bd05-4b39-4838-ae38-912a7c169881_1170x1553.jpeg 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lx7L!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_848, 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If this isn&#8217;t amusing, I don&#8217;t know what is.</p><p>What is there to say? Glory to the power of socio-economic factors!</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://shanggyangg.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Cultivated Wastelands! 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8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Network School participants taking part in a ritual of humiliation and showing their passports on camera to prove none of them is a secret Jew.</figcaption></figure></div><p>Balaji Srinivasan&#8217;s Network School is a tech bro community in Johor, Malaysia, that has been raided by the Malaysian police over a false rumor that some of its participants were Israelis with dual citizenship, which led to Balaji suspending investments and potentially pulling out of the country altogether. <a href="https://x.com/balajis/status/2077723442166784206">You can read the whole story here</a>.</p><p>1. The only reason there is a conflict in the first place is that Malaysia has a blanket ban on Israeli citizens entering the country &#8212; a law that is obviously antisemitic in nature. The Malaysian side says it&#8217;s dissatisfied with the Network School because it doesn&#8217;t respect Malaysian laws &#8212; however, the laws in question are immoral and unjust.</p><p>2. By making a decision to build the Network School in Malaysia and abide by the country&#8217;s unjust laws, Balaji agreed to exclude all Israelis from the project. I don&#8217;t think it was an indefensible trade-off &#8211; both proximity to Singapore and a relaxed visa regime for most countries are major benefits, and Israelis, while overrepresented in tech, are 0.1% of the world&#8217;s population. But it <em>was</em> a trade-off.</p><p>3. The reason Malaysia has an antisemitic law is because it has an antisemitic population, as is evident from the popularity of the original hidden Israelis hoax, the mob&#8217;s bizare insistence that Balaji is a Zionist (he obviously isn&#8217;t), and the conspiracy theories about the Network School being a &#8220;Tech Zionist&#8221; project to settle Johor with Jews. In some countries, like Trump&#8217;s America or Putin&#8217;s Russia, the ruling regime is more backwards than the population it is ruling over, but that doesn&#8217;t seem to be the case in Malaysia. That means that this country is unlikely to become better in the nearest decades.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ngY-!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffc8119a9-2d18-4672-8da4-d1b537d37a1d_960x629.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ngY-!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_424, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffc8119a9-2d18-4672-8da4-d1b537d37a1d_960x629.jpeg 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ngY-!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_848, 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/__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffc8119a9-2d18-4672-8da4-d1b537d37a1d_960x629.jpeg 1272w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ngY-!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_1456, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffc8119a9-2d18-4672-8da4-d1b537d37a1d_960x629.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path 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Homosexuality is not only illegal in Malaysia, but also punishable by public caning (in addition to more &#8220;normal&#8221; fines and prison time). The current prime minister, Anwar Ibrahim, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anwar_Ibrahim_sodomy_trials">has been tried for and convicted of sodomy several times</a>, and even served some prison time, which is probably not something that can be said of most countries.</p><p>5. Malaysia also has affirmative action laws that privilege ethnic Malays &#8211; lumped together with several smaller ethnicities as <em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bumiputera_(Malaysia)">Bumiputera</a></em> &#8211; over the country&#8217;s Chinese and Indian minorities, who are much more economically productive and constitute the nation&#8217;s &#8220;smart fraction&#8221;. Malaysia is 70% <span>Bumiputera, 22% Chinese, and 6.5% Indian; Kuala Lumpur is 48% Bumiputera, 41% Chinese (!), and 10% Indian, and used to be plurality-Chinese until 2000s.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fXbS!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F57d970f6-860d-48b1-a970-82e546e5d57f_739x1280.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fXbS!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_424, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F57d970f6-860d-48b1-a970-82e546e5d57f_739x1280.png 424w, 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A great joke.</figcaption></figure></div><p><span>6. All that is to say, Malaysia is a country with issues. All countries are, and there are many places that are much worse. Malaysia is, after all, one of the most developed nations in Southeast Asia. But it&#8217;s na&#239;ve to expect a country with sodomy laws to be a great place for Silicon Valley libertarians, and it&#8217;s only logical that a country that discriminates against its homegrown productive minorities wouldn&#8217;t welcome foreign talent.</span></p><p><span>7. A lot of Malaysians seem to be offended by the fact that the Network School (accurately) advertised itself as &#8220;close to Singapore&#8221; and downplayed the fact that they were actually in Malaysia. The reason they did that is because everyone wants to live in Singapore and few people want to live in Malaysia, because Singapore is a very impressive country and Malaysia is not. Maybe Malaysian patriots should contemplate that.</span></p><p><span>8. Malaysian patriots are concerned that the Network School is a threat to their sovereignty. While in theory that kind of is the long-term goal of the Network State project, in reality a bunch of tech bros renting a building on the outskirts of Johor is not a threat to anything, and the fact that anyone in the country is talking about this seriously is a strong sign of massive national insecurity.</span></p><p><span>9. Balaji&#8217;s plan B for the Network School seems to be Kazakhstan, which is not the worst pick. While also a Muslim country, it&#8217;s much more secular thanks to the Soviet legacy and doesn&#8217;t have an issue with widespread hysteria over &#8220;Zionism&#8221;. Kazakhstan&#8217;s own &#8220;smart fraction&#8221; minorities &#8211; Russians, Germans, and Koreans &#8211; are underrepresented in the government, and the regime has pursued policies to strengthen the country&#8217;s Kazakh ethnic majority, but they aren&#8217;t openly discriminated against and are generally doing fine. While in an inferior location &#8211; no Singapore nearby! &#8211; it can potentially become a magnet for Russian and other post-Soviet tech talent that is increasingly hesitant to work in Russia&#8217;s previously prosperous but declining tech economy for obvious reasons. Still, it&#8217;s an authoritarian regime, and while Tokayev, Kazakhstan&#8217;s president, is a reasonable man, it&#8217;s a risky move to put your project&#8217;s fate into a nation that has a limited history of the rule of law.</span></p><p><span>10. </span>What makes a state a state is a monopoly on violence. A lack of a roadmap to having that is the Network State project&#8217;s glaring weakness &#8211; and it&#8217;s especially important considering its attempts to establish outposts in developing countries with weaker rule of law. &#8220;Let&#8217;s buy plots of land in various places and then start a pressure campaign to recognize them as a nation&#8221; sounds nice until the police shows up. What if the next time it&#8217;s the tanks? Unless the Network Staters find an answer, they will keep losing even to thoroughly unimpressive nation-states.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://shanggyangg.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Cultivated Wastelands! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Understanding the Factions of Russian Politics]]></title><description><![CDATA[From the Siloviks to the Stalinists, and all the other crazy people]]></description><link>https://shanggyangg.substack.com/p/understanding-the-factions-of-russian</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://shanggyangg.substack.com/p/understanding-the-factions-of-russian</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Shanggyangg]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2026 22:47:40 GMT</pubDate><enclosure 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The chart itself was made by some Russian guy a few months ago, and while it can be legitimately criticized, it&#8217;s actually pretty comprehensive and works quite well as a guide into Russian politics of 2026. It was clearly created by a deeply online person with extensive knowledge of relatively obscure Russian political fugures. Above is my humble translation.</p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/kunley_drukpa/status/2073110105751515292&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;Russian-made &#8216;Factions in Russian Politics&#8217; Chart &quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;kunley_drukpa&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;&#598;&#640;&#650;&#1220;&#1412;&#479; &#1220;&#650;&#1404;&#671;&#603;&#655; &#127463;&#127481;&#127481;&#127465;&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1387461171649863685/v-59XRGX_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-07-03T18:22:20.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[{&quot;img_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/media/HMUqpk4WcAA5w6H.jpg&quot;,&quot;link_url&quot;:&quot;https://t.co/qLhEYKZ9GI&quot;}],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{},&quot;reply_count&quot;:123,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:131,&quot;like_count&quot;:2081,&quot;impression_count&quot;:241278,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><p>The chart kind of resembles a political compass but it isn&#8217;t one &#8211; there are no axes. Insted it identifies four major factions in Russian politics &#8211; the Kremlins, the Nationalists, the Liberals, and the Left &#8211; and then divides each of them into four sub-factions. There is no consistent logic in their exact placement on the chart.</p><p>So what are those factions and what&#8217;s their deal? Let&#8217;s do a deeper dive-in on all of them.</p><h1>THE KREMLINS</h1><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Rh_T!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9f7db125-6864-47cc-b937-d7a8bfa2c27b_1018x1038.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Rh_T!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_424, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9f7db125-6864-47cc-b937-d7a8bfa2c27b_1018x1038.jpeg 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Rh_T!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_848, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, 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This is their defining characteristic as a part of the Russian political landscape that transcends any sort of ideological alignment. The (vaguely defined and often mythologized) sub-factions of the Russian government are often dubbed &#8220;Towers of the Kremlin&#8221;.</p><p>The towers on our chart can more or less be divided into two &#8220;hardline&#8221; and two &#8220;moderate&#8221; ones.</p><p>&#128681; <strong>Siloviks</strong> (or <em>Siloviki</em>) is a word English ended up adopting from Russian. It means the guys with the guns: the Feds, the Police, and the Army. Of those three, the Feds (FSB, the successor to the Soviet Union&#8217;s KGB and Stalin&#8217;s NKVD) are the most important and the most powerful. They tend to be genuinely ideologically commited to the war and the larger confrontation with the West, and very socially conservative (not least because their leadership is men in their seventies). What sets them apart is that they are a powerful institution on its own that predates Putin and has power independently of Putin.</p><p>&#128681; <strong>Putin loyalists</strong><span>, in contrast, are completely dependent on the current president in their position. They are people who were promoted by the institutions he built himself, like the United Russia party, and who are very likely to perish with them if Putin ever goes down. Ideologically, they are identical to the Siloviks in being war hardliners but often care less and would switch their positions in an instant if told so.</span></p><p>&#128681; <strong>Kremlin liberals</strong> and <strong>Technocrats</strong> are often seen as almost the same group; they do overlap. They are the competent people who keep the system running, which is why they are still around. While the Siloviks take care of the state secutity and the military matters, Liberals and Technocrats control Russia&#8217;s economic policy. They are often silently war-sceptical and open to restoring relationships with the Western world &#8211; although probably don&#8217;t have the guts to oppose the hardliners in any real way. The most prominent example is Elvira Nabiullina, the head of the Central Bank of Russia, rumored to have been denied a resignation after the start of the war in 2022, who managed to save the country from economic collapse in the same year.</p><p>***</p><h1>THE NATIONALISTS</h1><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!o0ue!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F55dc2160-e9d0-410f-adee-6dc12aeb3a33_1027x1019.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!o0ue!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_424, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, 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/__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_1456, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F55dc2160-e9d0-410f-adee-6dc12aeb3a33_1027x1019.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Nationalists should not be confused with the Kremlins &#8212; they might share ideas, but they do not share the power. Some of those people are loyal to the regime, but some actually oppose it from the right.</p><p>&#128681; <strong>Ziggers.</strong> War is their only priority. They just really hate Ukrainians. Many of the people who fall into this category are actively fighting or are closely connected with the military in some other way.</p><p>&#128681; <strong>Hardline Patriots.</strong> Ziggers who got blackpilled. Often those are people who have been fighting for the Donbass cause since 2014 or even earlier. They believe the regime is not doing enough to win the war (not starting a mass mobilisation, not trying to assasinate Zelensky, not dropping nukes, etc.) and hate it for it. People like Igor Strelkov, a popular commander who played a major role in starting the war in 2014 and was jailed in Russia in 2024 for criticizing Putin from the right, is a good example.</p><p>&#128681; <strong>Schizo Patriots.</strong> Ziggers who are motivated by religion, mysticism, or some other bizzare grand ideas. People who believe the war is necessary because Russia&#8217;s geopolitical dominance is instrumental in stopping Satan from conquering the world or something like that. Alexander Dugin is one of those guys.</p><p>&#128681; <strong>Democratic Nationalists.</strong> Those are right-wingers more focused on internal issues, like immigration. Before the war, they sometimes used to partner with the Liberals. Many of them are quietly war-sceptical, or at least war-weary, and believe starting it was a mistake. However, they still view Ukraine as hostile, believe any collaboration with Ukraine is unacceptable, and tend to &#8220;root for&#8221; Russia on the battlefield.</p><p>***</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://shanggyangg.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Cultivated Wastelands! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h1>THE LIBERALS</h1><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!M1ES!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb9fd704d-f00a-41be-bbe5-27c2626f15de_1026x1024.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!M1ES!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_424, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb9fd704d-f00a-41be-bbe5-27c2626f15de_1026x1024.jpeg 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!M1ES!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_848, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb9fd704d-f00a-41be-bbe5-27c2626f15de_1026x1024.jpeg 848w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!M1ES!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_1272, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb9fd704d-f00a-41be-bbe5-27c2626f15de_1026x1024.jpeg 1272w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!M1ES!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_1456, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb9fd704d-f00a-41be-bbe5-27c2626f15de_1026x1024.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!M1ES!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb9fd704d-f00a-41be-bbe5-27c2626f15de_1026x1024.jpeg" width="1026" height="1024" 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/__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb9fd704d-f00a-41be-bbe5-27c2626f15de_1026x1024.jpeg 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!M1ES!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_848, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb9fd704d-f00a-41be-bbe5-27c2626f15de_1026x1024.jpeg 848w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!M1ES!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_1272, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb9fd704d-f00a-41be-bbe5-27c2626f15de_1026x1024.jpeg 1272w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!M1ES!, 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They are the most persecuted group, as well as the most visible one in the West. Most of its leaders have emigrated in 2022, although a few less prominent ones remain in Russia.</p><p>&#128681; <strong>Libs.</strong> The basic kind. They have been in opposition to Putin for decades, opposed the war strongly since day one, and want Russia to become a liberal democracy. The educated urban professionals tend to belong to this category.</p><p>&#128681; <strong>Z Libs.</strong> Right-leaning liberals who got disillusioned with Ukraine and the West. The &#8220;Z&#8221; part is more of what other liberals believe they are rather than self-identification: they largely still oppose the war and want Putin gone. However, they also have a negative view of Zelensky and the EU leadership, and also tend to believe Russians who fled the war are treated unfairly in the West. At this point they basically hate both sides equally.</p><p>&#128681; <strong>Pro-EU libs.</strong> Well-connected people on Western (usually European) payroll who work for various foundations, organisations and structures with connections to Western governments and institution. Every single one of those peiople is in emigration. Strongly pro-Ukraine.</p><p>&#128681; <strong>TransUkrainians.</strong> People who are so pro-Ukraine that they rejected their Russian identity altogether. They define themselves as an opposition not only to Putin and his regime but to Russian society itself. They believe <a href="/__u/substack.com/@drunkwisconsin/p-202726831">Russians are evil</a> and probably can&#8217;t be reformed, so they don&#8217;t care about democracy in Russia anymore and just want it to lose the war. They often support dismantling Russia as a state and align themselves with separatist movements and Russian volonteers fighting for Ukraine.</p><p>***</p><h1>THE LEFT</h1><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Wm40!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feb0ba791-93e4-4305-9b67-c2db37b73045_1070x1037.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Wm40!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_424, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feb0ba791-93e4-4305-9b67-c2db37b73045_1070x1037.jpeg 424w, 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They are united by their general opposition to capitalism and support for the Russian Revolution of 1917 (although opinions on later Soviet periods may vary). They are quite divided on the current war, and have generally taken a back seat in 2022. I do, however, believe they will be back as a major force sooner rather than later.</p><p>&#128681; <strong>Red conservatives</strong> are Soviet-nostalgia-driven boomers. They like the Soviet Union and Stalin but aren&#8217;t really interested in Marxist theory or the international Socialist movement, and basically view USSR in the same way American conservatives view the US in the 1950&#8217;s &#8211; as a better, simpler time when men were men and women were women, and the state took care about the common man. They mostly support the war and are often loyal to Putin, although tend to otherwise dislike the ruling class and especially the Kremlin Liberals.</p><p>&#128681; <strong>Commies</strong> are the actual Marxists. They read theory and they take it seriously. They mostly have a negative opinion on Putin, whom they view as a stooge of the big business owners, although they often hate the liberals even more. They are mostly neutral on the war, viewing both sides as enemies of the working class.</p><p>&#128681; <strong>Social Democrats</strong> and <strong>Democratic Socialists</strong> are two overlapping groups of pro-democracy, socially liberal leftists. While they still support the 1917 Revolution and usually have a positive view of Lenin, they are critical of Stalinism and believe the Soviet Union took a wrong turn by embracing authoritarianism and social conservatism. While they are distinct from the liberals, they are often open to allying with them in opposition to the regime. They are strongly anti-Putin and anti-war, although often sceptical of the Ukrainian leadership.</p><p>***</p><p>The groups are not fixed and the boundaries can be blurry. Siloviks share most of its ideology with the Nationalists; the Red Conservatives aren&#8217;t too far either; Social Democrats are pretty close to the Libs; Z Libs have a lot in common with the Democratic Nationalists; etc. Nazbols could easily be put in at least 3-4 categories.</p><p>But this is a decent starting point for understanding the mess that is the contemporary Russian politics &#8211; in all its chaos and beauty.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://shanggyangg.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Cultivated Wastelands! 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A travelogue from Poland and Finland]]></title><description><![CDATA["We make good neighbors, but we are very different people."]]></description><link>https://shanggyangg.substack.com/p/edges-of-an-empire-a-travelogue-from</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://shanggyangg.substack.com/p/edges-of-an-empire-a-travelogue-from</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Shanggyangg]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2026 17:23:39 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vMsj!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa1c1d364-a685-4250-8e0e-789c0a648917_1280x750.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Alexander II of Russia, crowned with a gull, observing a rainbow flag. Ukraine ominously present. Helsinki, 2026.</figcaption></figure></div><p>1. Midway on my Warsaw-Helsinki trip I realized that I will spend the whole journey without leaving the borders of Russian Empire &#8212; that acquired Finland in 1809 and Poland in 1815 during the Napoleonic wars, and lost both in 1917.</p><p>2. Warsaw looks and feels a lot like Moscow, and Helsinki looks and feels sort of like St. Petersburg. Warsaw was nearly wiped off the face of the Earth during World War II and was rebuilt when Poland was an Eastern block country &#8211; with Moscow, the ultimate Communist capital, clearly being a source of inspiration. Helsinki, historically a small town, was turned into the national capital in the 19<sup>th</sup> century by the will of the Russian Tzar as a deliberate project to shift the center of power away from &#197;bo with all its Swedish connections and closer to Russia proper. Its expansion was overseen by the same architects that worked on St. Petersburg.</p><p>3. 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It&#8217;s ridiculously easy to get by in Warsaw as a Russian speaker. Most clerks at grocery stores or baristas at caf&#233;s are Ukrainian or Belarussian. There are about 2 million Ukrainians in the country and 0.5 million Belarussians, and they are dominating the service industry. This is the power of cheap labor.</p><p>5. Amusingly, many of the taxi drivers are Central Asian or other sorts of post-Soviet Muslims. A young Uzbek guy gave us a small history lecture on how Russia conquered Uzbekistan (which was &#8220;a little good and a little bad&#8221;) only to get stalled in development under the Soviet Union (which was created in 1906). An older Azeri man furiously insisted that Ukrainians and Poles are terrible passangers because they &#8220;have no culture&#8221;, while Russians and Belarussians are great passangers because they &#8220;have culture.&#8221; He also had some heterodox opinions on geopolitics.</p><p>6. Poor Ukrainians gave Poland a large pool of cheap labor. Rich Ukrainians created a lot of high-end, fancy-looking caf&#233;s and restaurants that are as abundant in Kyiv as they are in Moscow and St. Petersburg. Both Russia and (especially) Ukraine are much poorer than Poland, but they are also more unequal &#8212; they have more poor people and more rich people at the same time, which means both high demand for upscale places and low labor costs. This is how you get Russia&#8217;s famously excellent service industry, and a smaller but similar one in Ukraine.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Qgvu!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F53280107-4517-403d-87f1-d1e8618f8e13_1280x960.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Qgvu!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_424, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F53280107-4517-403d-87f1-d1e8618f8e13_1280x960.png 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Qgvu!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_848, 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One of those Ukrainian-owned fancy places was a good contender for the nicest caf&#233; I&#8217;ve ever been to. I asked the barista, a very young blond girl, if she spoke Russian. She looked me dead in the eyes with thinly-disguised hatred and replied, in Ukrainian, &#8220;I can <em>understand</em> you.&#8221;</p><p>8. Many witnesses told us that Ukrainian refugees are reviled in Poland, and that being Russian there is actually safer than being Ukrainian. One friend, a Russian libertarian who fled persecution, recalls two encounters with Polish gopniks: in one instance, he confessed he was Russian and was met with &#8220;Russia, Putin, very cool!&#8221;, and in another, in a major faux pas, he lied he was Ukrainian and had to run for his life.</p><p>9. Polish gopniks might not be very smart. The influx of East Slavs was a clear win for Poland: it got loads of labor, capital, talents, all from an ethnically and culturally close population that will completely assimilate in a few generations. It&#8217;s hard not to see Poland as a huge success story for culturally close immigration. Even after the war ends, most of those people are definitely not coming back.</p><p>10. Poland is one of the few modern countries for which the future looks pretty great. It&#8217;s getting richer every year and retains good potential for more economic growth, which means it&#8217;s almost guaranteed to get to the Western European level pretty soon. It&#8217;s both a law and order society &#8211; one that calls the cops on a homeless guy for peacefully sleeping in an underpass at 1 AM near the cleanest McDonald&#8217;s you&#8217;ll ever see &#8211; and politically free. I saw more right-wing patriotic graffities than rainbow flags, but the fact that there were both is a good sign of a healthy pluralistic nation. Today is a pretty great time to be a Pole.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kINf!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1a425295-4289-4df5-8264-f77c75a5d818_960x1280.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kINf!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_424, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1a425295-4289-4df5-8264-f77c75a5d818_960x1280.png 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kINf!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_848, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, 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Other than a statue and a few streets, there isn&#8217;t much in Helsinki that reminds you of Russia. Its vibe is decisively Scandinavian, as it should be &#8212; it was a part of Sweden five times longer than a highly autonomous part of Russia. Helsinki very much looks like a smaller Stockholm.</p><p>12. Small pieces of Russian heritage are scattered around the city: a cathedral here, a statue there. In Russia itself, no monuments to Alexander II, Russia&#8217;s reformer Tzar who ended serfdom and propelled Russian empire into modernity, survived the Bolshevik revolution, but in Helsinki, it&#8217;s still there, right in the city center, and an Alexander street is there too. The Russian Merchant Quarter on Sveaborg/Suomenlinna is very well-preserved &#8211; better than many historic sights in Russia. It&#8217;s all very nice.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!P-lZ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fedbaabd3-9832-4bfc-9cbc-08c522cc266b_960x659.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!P-lZ!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_424, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fedbaabd3-9832-4bfc-9cbc-08c522cc266b_960x659.png 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!P-lZ!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_848, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, 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Finns renaming Sveaborg (&#8220;Swedish fortress&#8221;) into Suomenlinna (&#8220;Finnish fortress&#8221;) immediately after independence will never stop being funny to me. Russians used it as a naval base for a century and were perfectly fine with Sveaborg!</p><p>14. I&#8217;ve seen maybe two EU flags in Finland and dozens, if not hundreds, in Poland. As the saying goes, if you went to Dartmouth, you went to an Ivy League school, and if you went to Harvard, you went to Harvard. If you live in Poland, you live in the European Union. If you live in Finland, you live in Finland.</p><p>15. Speaking of flags: I happened to visit on Midsommar/Juhannus, which is a national holiday in Finland, so downtown Helsinki was pretty stacked with Finnish flags. However, they only do this on national holidays, so the next day the national flags were down and the Ukrainian flags were up, as they always are. I get the message, but they are low-key overdoing it.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UPWu!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F83264043-57f3-4b0d-975b-a48614c79424_1280x960.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UPWu!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_424, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F83264043-57f3-4b0d-975b-a48614c79424_1280x960.png 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UPWu!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_848, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, 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There are countries that clearly had too much immigration. If you have full-on ghettos in your country, like Sweden&#8217;s 99% immigrant Rinkeby, it&#8217;s probably not ok. Finland is not one of those countries: the crowd on the streets is still overwhelmingly Finns (who all look like they are each other&#8217;s distant cousins), and the visible immigrants largely look well-integrated and well-behaved. I haven&#8217;t seen any of them cause any troubles. This is basically fine?</p><p>17. Finnish alcoholism is real, and basically all anti-social people I&#8217;ve seen in Helsinki were not immigrants but native Finnish alcoholics. Even Russian major cities aren&#8217;t that bad, honestly.</p><p>18. My plane seat neighbor, a russophillic rural Finn who thinks Helsinki is the worst place in the world, drank two beers on a two-hour flight, and really likes <em>fishing,</em> said about Russians and Finns: <em>&#8220;We make good neighbors, but we are very different people.&#8221;</em></p><p>19. A few years ago, you could get from St. Petersburg to Helsinki in a few hours on a train or a bus for the price of a lunch. The train was closed in 2022, and since 2023, the border has been shut down completely for all travellers. Even after the war ends, we probably won&#8217;t return to the 2021 level of interconnectedness in quite a while. Civilization is fragile. 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This came to a surprise to his many fans who followed him because they thought he actually loved eugenics, which is not an unreasonable assumption if you have any familiarity with Hanania&#8217;s work.</p><p>The piece was a response to an article &#8220;<a href="/__u/bestbehavior.substack.com/p/eugenicist">You&#8217;re probably a eugenicist</a>&#8221; by some Diana Fleischman.</p><blockquote><p>She argues that most individuals support policies that are aimed at ensuring that children are not born with massive handicaps, like bans on incest. People also choose sperm donors and even partners based on what qualities they will pass on to their children. Therefore, &#8220;We are all eugenicists&#8212;but in selective, inconsistent, and often hypocritical ways.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>Hanania says &#8211; duh, of course we all want babies with <em>better genes!</em> But you are not going to convince anyone running around and calling yourself a eugenicist. For an average person, eugenics is racism, racism is fascism, and fascism is Hitler. If you want to make a case for <em>better genes,</em> you have to wrap it in a way that doesn&#8217;t trigger a chain of associations that leads to Hitler. So instead of talking about selective breeding, make it a story about children&#8217;s health or women&#8217;s rights.</p><p>Hanania also has another article (he is a prolific writer!) It&#8217;s called &#8220;<a href="https://www.richardhanania.com/p/shut-up-about-race-and-iq">Shut up About Race and IQ</a>&#8221;. Scott Alexander already <a href="https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/book-review-the-origins-of-woke">summarized</a> it better than I ever could:</p><blockquote><p>A cynic might notice that in February of this year, Hanania wrote <a href="https://www.richardhanania.com/p/shut-up-about-race-and-iq">Shut Up About Race And IQ</a>. He says that the people who talk about [race and IQ] are &#8220;wrong about fundamental questions regarding things like how people form their political opinions, what makes for successful movements, and even their own motivations.&#8221; A careful reader might notice what he <em>doesn&#8217;t</em> describe them as being wrong about. The rest of the piece almost-but-not-quite-explicitly clarifies his position: I read him as saying that race realism is most likely true, but you shouldn&#8217;t talk about it, because it scares people.</p></blockquote><p>We might have found a motif here. Richard Hanania holds some opinions that he believes are true, but society thinks are bad and dangerous. Richard understands that to have influence on society as a writer, he has to present his beliefs in a carefully curated way to make them more acceptable to the average person.</p><p>Which is why he has taken a bold stance in support of Jeffery Epstein.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://shanggyangg.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Cultivated Wastelands! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p>***</p><p><strong>2.</strong> Richard Hanania is &#8220;working on an article discussing something [he has] been wondering about, which is why hysteria over pedophilia is the surest sign of low human capital at every point of the political spectrum.&#8221;</p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/RichardHanania/status/2024164441374544376&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;I am working on an article discussing something I've been wondering about, which is why hysteria over pedophilia is the surest sign of low human capital at every point of the political spectrum. Subscribe here to understand your dumber fellow citizens. &quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;RichardHanania&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Richard Hanania&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1747313674937827328/6Fwkze7o_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-02-18T16:49:44.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{},&quot;reply_count&quot;:17,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:1,&quot;like_count&quot;:74,&quot;impression_count&quot;:25159,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.richardhanania.com&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;Richard Hanania's Newsletter | Substack&quot;,&quot;description&quot;:&quot;Foreign policy, American politics, and social science. Click to read Richard Hanania's Newsletter, a Substack publication with tens of thousands of subscribers.&quot;,&quot;domain&quot;:&quot;richardhanania.com&quot;,&quot;image&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/news_img/2023013899042471936/1zSrhwv7?format=jpg&amp;name=orig&quot;},&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><p>Let&#8217;s make an important clarification. Hanania is not, in fact, talking about capital P Pedophilia, as in rape of prepubescent children. He is talking about sexually active teenagers engaging in consensual and willing intercourse with young adults.</p><p>We have all seen the news stories. An incredibly attractive 20-something new teacher (always blond!) sleeps with a high school student. The boy (who can easily overpower a young woman) has a time of his life. His parents find out, decide to call the police. A teacher gets decades behind bars for &#8220;pedophilia&#8221;. A bipartisan lynching mob appears in the comment section calling for woodchippers.</p><p>I was a teenage boy once, and while I can&#8217;t say I found older women particularly appealing compared to my peers, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s likely that I would have been traumatized by an occurrence like this. Most of my male readers probably feel the same. And while it&#8217;s more complicated with girls, it&#8217;s obviously not very hard to find women who had similar experiences as teenagers and don&#8217;t regret it. (Of course, it is also incredibly easy to find people whose teenage sexual experience <em>was</em> traumatic, and my intuition is that there must be a correlation with older partners.)</p><p><strong>Pedophilia is very bad,</strong> and pedophilia is when an adult has sex with a child. Everyone under 18 is legally a child and everyone over 18 is legally an adult, so when two people aged 17 and 19 have sex, they are technically on two different sides of the divide. Woodchipper!</p><p>Of course, smart people understand nuance. People age gradually, not in a blink of an eye after crossing some threshold. You have to put a number somewhere, and 18 is as good as 17 or 19, but there is a very clear difference between a college student dating a high schooler, and an adult raping a kindergartener. Stupid people, however, struggle with nuance. They see &#8220;adult&#8221;, &#8220;minor&#8221;, &#8220;sex&#8221; in proximity and cry wolf even when there is no evidence anyone involved was harmed, or not old enough to understand the situation.</p><p>So, here it is, I wrote Hanania&#8217;s piece before he himself could. &#8220;Hysteria over pedophilia&#8221; is a &#8220;sign of low human capital&#8221; because unintelligent people lump wildly different cases together, because nuance requires IQ.</p><p>Still, something is wrong here.</p><p>***</p><p><strong>3.</strong> Diana Fleischman, a self-admitted eugenicist, does not support forced sterilization of people with trivial health issues, poor grades in school, bad looks, or ethnic admixtures. She supports banning sibling marriages and making embryo screening for genetic disabilities more affordable for young mothers. Yet, most people who read the word &#8220;eugenicist&#8221; would jump to a conclusion that she is a National Socialist before bothering to learn any of this.</p><p>Richard Hanania does not support rape of children. He supports chilling out about teenagers having some sex and opposes ruining lives of young adults over it. But he is not making it very hard for his opponents to paint him as a pedophile when he is framing it as a fight against &#8220;hysteria over pedophilia&#8221;, or when he keeps talking about Jeffery Epstein being innocent of most things people blame him for.</p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/RichardHanania/status/2022462089433153949&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;Do you ever wonder \&quot;what would I have done during the Salem witch trials?\&quot;\n\nYou now know. If you're partaking in this Epstein nonsense, you are the kind of person who fails moral and intellectual tests when they matter. \n\nI discuss this monstrosity with <span class=\&quot;tweet-fake-link\&quot;>@mtracey</span> &quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;RichardHanania&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Richard Hanania&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1747313674937827328/6Fwkze7o_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-02-14T00:05:12.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[{&quot;img_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/upload/w_1028,c_limit,q_auto:best/l_twitter_play_button_rvaygk,w_88/weyz4ybhl0na5wjwddfl&quot;,&quot;link_url&quot;:&quot;https://t.co/MNWjwk2mPy&quot;}],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{},&quot;reply_count&quot;:228,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:33,&quot;like_count&quot;:452,&quot;impression_count&quot;:245657,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:&quot;https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/2022461424010956807/vid/avc1/1280x720/U_YdX2wBqtyPcZtN.mp4&quot;,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><p>Political movements form when fractions of Elite Human Capital align with fractions of low human capital. EHC-only movement is called a club. Some concessions to the masses are necessary for change.</p><p>US Democrats combine progressive stances on freedoms of women and gay people with with &#8220;anti-billionaire&#8221; economic populism and black racial grievances. Old-school Republicans were an alliance of economic liberals and religious obscurantists. In post-war Europe, liberals had to balance between class-populist Social Democrats or religious-populist Christian Democrats. The list goes on. You can&#8217;t have a pure Smart Party in power, you always need the dumbs.</p><div id="youtube2-QFgcqB8-AxE" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;QFgcqB8-AxE&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/QFgcqB8-AxE?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p>Low human capital people hold a lot of very harmful beliefs: protectionism and economic nationalism, price control, billionaire hate, strongman worship, zero-sum thinking, etc. A lack of nuance about whether we should allow adults to date 17.9999 year-olds is probably not the most dangerous thing on the list.</p><p>Richard Hanania thinks it is, in fact, important:</p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/RichardHanania/status/2024212888513368419&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;<span class=\&quot;tweet-fake-link\&quot;>@shanggyangg</span> Nope it&#8217;s one of the worst LHC obsessions. It&#8217;s tied to extended childhood, fragility and hysteria surrounding sex, and the general emasculation and demonization of men.\n\nIt&#8217;s hard to think of things more disgusting than believing a teenage male can be &#8220;raped&#8221; by his teacher. If&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;RichardHanania&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Richard Hanania&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1747313674937827328/6Fwkze7o_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-02-18T20:02:15.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{},&quot;reply_count&quot;:1,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:0,&quot;like_count&quot;:10,&quot;impression_count&quot;:709,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_preview_media_key&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><p>Those points aren&#8217;t unfair. But I don&#8217;t think Richard believes that a connection between Race and IQ &#8211; something that explains a very large part of not just American, but global socio-economic dynamics and debunks much of mainstream understanding of what policy on education and crime should look like &#8211; is unimportant. He still understands it&#8217;s something you shouldn&#8217;t be very on the nose about if you want to be taken seriously.</p><p>Jeffrey Epstein is less popular than racism. It might be true that most people&#8217;s idea about what he was doing on that island is complete nonsense, and that he was a less demonic person than your uncle believes. Some interesting racial statistics you see on X dot com might also be true. Still, is defending Jeffrey Epstein really a smart thing to do for someone who wants to influence people&#8217;s minds?</p><p>Richard Hanania is not a pedophile. His taste in women, <a href="https://x.com/RichardHanania/status/1851018667158618221">while horrendous</a>, reveals preference for the body types that are anything but child-like. He is a married father of three children, and nothing suggests his sex life is anything but completely ordinary.</p><p>He is something worse: a contrarian. I am also a contrarian. But I have read some smart Substack posts before, like &#8220;Why I Oppose Eugenics&#8221; or &#8220;Shut up About Race and IQ&#8221;, that taught me to be a smart contrarian. Which is why I strongly, very strongly oppose pedophilia.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://shanggyangg.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Cultivated Wastelands! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Paris impressions]]></title><description><![CDATA[Short notes after a short visit]]></description><link>https://shanggyangg.substack.com/p/paris-impressions</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://shanggyangg.substack.com/p/paris-impressions</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Shanggyangg]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2025 17:57:51 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!g-Gn!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa73e915d-1525-492c-bf3a-3daee47384a3_4608x3456.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Short notes after a short visit</em></p><p></p><p>0. Two days is not nearly enough to understand a world-historic Great City. It was, however, enough to see that Paris really is one of them. The following is but a glimpse, a brief impression.</p><p></p><p>1. Riding a RER train from the airport to the city was quite a radicalizing experience. Station after station, not one European entering. Whatever Le Pen is advocating is a center-left option.</p><p></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!g-Gn!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa73e915d-1525-492c-bf3a-3daee47384a3_4608x3456.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!g-Gn!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_424, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa73e915d-1525-492c-bf3a-3daee47384a3_4608x3456.jpeg 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!g-Gn!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_848, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, 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Paris itself, however &#8211; the nice areas where I roamed &#8211; did not feel that much less White than Moscow or St Petersburg. Plenty of minorities around, of course, but still an overwhelmingly European city.</p><p></p><p>3. The French have an unmistakable racial type. People just look French &#8211; not White, not European, but French specifically. I did not find it particularly beautiful, but rather dignifying in some subtle way. The type is seen in the young and the old, but becomes especially visible with age. Old men are bald with disproportionate frequency, and the way female faces age is hard to put into words but extremely easy to notice. The French age gracefully.</p><p></p><p>4. I walked into a Catholic church near (but not affiliated with) <em>Les Invalides,</em> and it had three strollers parked inside. Almost every person there was with a child or a grandchild, and almost everyone was White French. It looked like a very healthy and thriving community.</p><p></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XHPS!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd51fb7bd-e1ad-42c8-859d-e70b9077663e_3456x4608.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XHPS!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_424, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd51fb7bd-e1ad-42c8-859d-e70b9077663e_3456x4608.jpeg 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XHPS!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_848, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, 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It was, however, where I&#8217;ve met the only Parisian who spoke to me in fluent English: a 20-something hazel-eyed hijabi girl employed as some sort of guard. Her directions were useful.</p><p></p><p>6. Every single employee at the CDG airport was not just black but Nilotic. Every single employee at Notre-Dame de Paris was White French.</p><p></p><p>7. The only time in my life I have seen a longer line than to Notre-Dame de Paris was on the funeral of Alexey Navalny. It was worth the wait: the Cathedral itself was exactly as great as its fame suggests and ten times more. A magnificent creation of a great civilization.</p><p></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fUkK!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1564a08d-0b0e-4835-9a93-acca712e7ea7_3456x4608.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fUkK!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_424, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1564a08d-0b0e-4835-9a93-acca712e7ea7_3456x4608.jpeg 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fUkK!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_848, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, 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French Catholics seem to be very good at incorporating modern elements in old churches tastefully.</p><p></p><p>9. If there is anything to compliment Paris on, it must be the sense of taste. I haven&#8217;t seen a single thing that was really in bad taste in the whole two days; in most places you can see a dozen in half an hour.</p><p></p><p>10. The shores of the Seine are filled with old White people selling, among the usual tourist-junk, 19th century used books, early 20th century pornography, pre-WW1 antisemitic newspapers and WW2-era Germany-sponsored magazines. 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/__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_1456, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F83d497c6-8312-430f-bf20-df1c4a3dd18c_3456x4608.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 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The city is not particularly clean, nor is it particularly comfortable. It shouldn't be that hard to deal with the broken windows or the homeless encampments. A lot of things close early, and basically nothing works late at night. Why have all the immigrants if they can't even work night shifts?</p><p></p><p>12. The mere dencity of History's footprints is hard to comprehend for someone who, like me, has grown up closer to the perephery of Civilization. There aren't that many cities where you can casually walk past Samuel Beckett's grave or the house where Voltaire died.</p><p></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pBBB!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1bf82e57-f55b-4d32-b5f9-e1df58cdd4b3_3456x4608.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pBBB!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_424, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1bf82e57-f55b-4d32-b5f9-e1df58cdd4b3_3456x4608.jpeg 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pBBB!, 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Paris feels like a city where Communists did <em>not</em> shoot most of its residents of good character and ability 100 years ago. For a Russian, it's a novelty. It does improve a place a lot, and it's visible even through the signs of decline. For the last hundred years, there were people to take care of the old family graves on the Montparnasse cemetery. In some hard-to-grasp sense, it's a Nation that, for all the problems of our age, hasn't yet been broken.</p><p></p><p>14. The proverbial romantic and tender side of Paris probably exists somewhere. Maybe I am too old already, or maybe late December is not the time. I did not find Paris tender. I do, however, recommend holding hands in front of a Van Gogh in Orly.</p><p></p><p>15. Can a city be both friendly and grand? I don't know; I assume not. Paris is grand; it is not friendly. It's probably a good place to live for a certain type of Frenchman; and there are mindless people from all possible corners of the world who can live anywhere without thinking of it much. Paris is full of both. But it doesn't welcome you and it doesn't love you (no matter what they write on the airport walls). It doesn't have to, of course &#8212; it has a line of unrequited lovers long enough to stretch it all the way to Marseille. For me, it was a city to admire but not to adore.</p><p></p><p>If Paris was a man, his posture would be uptight, and his gaze cold. </p><p></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Mejb!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9b9c17ca-bab4-40ca-9d34-83e0b4134381_3456x4608.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Mejb!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_424, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9b9c17ca-bab4-40ca-9d34-83e0b4134381_3456x4608.jpeg 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Mejb!, 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right.]]></description><link>https://shanggyangg.substack.com/p/is-banning-dual-citizenship-a-good</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://shanggyangg.substack.com/p/is-banning-dual-citizenship-a-good</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Shanggyangg]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2025 19:12:58 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uJXI!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9c74458b-5a67-4e09-8d04-08d5ce859386_1920x1080.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nalin Haley, the 24-year-old son of Nikki Haley, has recently gained some prominence in online right-wing circles, where he is emerging as a new young conservative rising star. The catch is: while his mother is an infamous moderate, Nalin is based.</p><p>In his recent Tucker Carlson appearance, a high point in his groyper-adjacent influencer career, Nalin suggested that naturalized citizens should not be able to hold public office, that the number of foreign students in American universities should be limited, and also that the US should ban dual citizenship.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uJXI!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9c74458b-5a67-4e09-8d04-08d5ce859386_1920x1080.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uJXI!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_424, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, 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8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">&#8220;<em>Because that&#8217;s the stupidest idea. You are either American or you are not&#8221;</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>This essay is specifically about the idea to restrict or forbid dual citizenship &#8211; an idea that has become increasingly popular among the MAGA Right.</p><p>On December 2<sup>nd,</sup>, US Senator Bernie Moreno (R-Ohio), himself a former citizen of Colombia (renounced at age 18, when he was naturalized as an American), <a href="https://thehill.com/policy/international/5629349-ohio-moreno-us-dual-citizenship/">introduced a bill</a> that would ban Americans from holding second citizenship and give every current dual citizen one year to renounce their other citizenship or be stripped of their US nationality. The bill will obviously not pass (it&#8217;s clearly unconstitutional<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a>, won&#8217;t stand in courts, gives unrealistic timelines and will simply have too many powerful enemies) but it&#8217;s quite telling that a Republican Senator thinks a stunt like this will give him good publicity.</p><h3>Personal good vs. public good: sometimes it&#8217;s neither</h3><p>It&#8217;s extremely easy to argue against restrictions on dual citizenship from the perspective of personal liberty. States and governments are untrustworthy, unstable, and generally evil. They are optimized to tax you and then spend the tax money in the least effective way possible. They are very probably not your friends.</p><p>You do not necessarily trust private entities or &#8220;the people&#8221; more than the government (although I do), but you definitely trust <em>yourself</em> more than the government. You never really know if it won&#8217;t screw up in a major way tomorrow, and if the situation in your country will be fine in the next five or ten years, so it&#8217;s extremely reasonable to want to have options and a plan B.</p><p>I think this is a logical approach <em>for an individual,</em> and I would recommend to any friend with the option to give it a thought. But what&#8217;s good for an individual is not always good <em>for a collective,</em> such as a nation. So if you are a part of a nationalist political movement like <em>America First</em> and you believe that collective interests should have priority over individual interests, should you fight for restriction on dual citizenship?</p><p>To answer this question we must figure out if the ban on dual citizenship is actually good for the nation.</p><h3>The dual loyalty argument</h3><p>The most common argument &#8211; the one Nalin makes in a Tucker interview, the one behind Sen. Moreno&#8217;s bill &#8211; is that a person should only be loyal to one nation. This idea sounds very reasonable &#8211; no one likes dual loyalties. But it doesn&#8217;t make much sense if you think about it for a minute.</p><p>Loyalty is a feeling, and citizenship is a legal status. There is no causal relationship between nationality and national loyalty. I&#8217;m not saying a citizen <em>shouldn&#8217;t</em> be loyal to his country of nationality, but many &#8211; including many native-born citizens &#8211; <em>are</em> evidently not. The major practical effect of holding a certain citizenship is not a symbolic sense of loyalty but rather a permanent and generally unretractable right to live and work in certain places, as well as some level of travel privileges. This is why most people get citizenships &#8211; to expand their opportunities, not as a gesture of allegiance to a national concept.</p><p>You can be a citizen and have no patriotic feelings at all. You can also <em>not</em> be a citizen and still be loyal to a nation &#8211; in fact, that&#8217;s explicitly expected for millions of immigrants on the years-long path towards naturalization. The hard reality is that nationality is a terrible proxy for loyalty, and there is no way to change that without radically transforming the entire global system of citizenship on a conceptual level.</p><p>Do American nationalists like Nalin actually think dual citizens are dually loyal &#8211; as in, loyal to both America and their second country? No &#8211; they clearly don&#8217;t think they are loyal to America at all! But if we are talking about a group of people with presumably no loyalty to the US, why would a change in their nationality status change their hearts? Unless we assume they are intensely patriotic towards their country of birth and would refuse to naturalize if that meant loosing their first passport, a ban would simply increase the number of disloyal American citizens.</p><p>Of course, many, if not most, of those people are not firebrand patriots of Mozambique but rather people who feel no strong attachment to any particular nationality and just want a higher quality of life in a nicer country. They would gladly exchange their original weak passport for the coveted US citizenship. Does that make them &#8220;loyal&#8221;, is that the nationalist dream? I don&#8217;t think this is exactly what Nalin Haley wants.</p><p>It would be a mistake, however, to call a ban on dual nationality simply meaningless. Rather, it would be actively harmful.</p><h3>Citizenship, immigration, and remigration</h3><p>In terms of its real effect on immigration, it would do two things:</p><p>1. Reduce White immigration;</p><p>2. Reduce non-White remigration.</p><p>The former is pretty obvious. Europeans have good passports &#8211; arguably stronger than the US one because you get unlimited access to all 27 countries of the European Union, and also don&#8217;t get taxed when you live abroad. It&#8217;s a pretty bad deal to give it up. A rule that would require them to do it will greatly discourage European immigration to the US.</p><p>And Europeans are a valuable resource. EU&#8217;s left-leaning regulatory attitudes are a huge source of frustration for the entrepreneurial types who are attracted by America&#8217;s relative economic freedom. The US has been brain draining Europe for centuries, which is a substantial part of the reason why Americans are way richer than their Old World cousins.</p><p>More importantly for the far-right, the influx of Europeans will work against the numerical decline of the White America. Europeans assimilate perfectly within a generation, so every American interested in survival of their country&#8217;s White population should support encouraging European immigration.</p><p>However, an even more important consequence is that a ban of dual citizenship will make it much harder to get the third-worlders out of America.</p><p>Imagine that you are Pakistani.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wq_Q!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F65721202-018c-4cfa-a00e-02eb0071c183_1300x956.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wq_Q!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_424, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, 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/__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_1456, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F65721202-018c-4cfa-a00e-02eb0071c183_1300x956.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Yes. This is you.</figcaption></figure></div><p>You grew up in a pretty bad environment (Pakistan). You want to get out (who doesn&#8217;t?). With some luck, family savings, and nepotism you manage to immigrate to the US, get a job, and eventually even become a US citizen.</p><p>But you never really feel at home. You never managed to get rid of the funny accent and make real friends in the US. There are no mosques around, and people look at you weirdly when you pray on your little rug. The people around you are way too liberal, and you don&#8217;t want your children to grow up gay. You miss speaking Punjabi with your friends. Your parents stayed in Pakistan, they are old now, and you want to spend some more time with them while you can.</p><p>You are firmly in the lower middle class in the US, not great, not terrible. However, your modest American savings are actually enough to live a top 1% life in the dirt-cheap Pakistan! You can afford a modern apartment in one of the best neighborhoods of Karachi for yourself and a few rental properties to cover all monthly expenses.</p><p>Most importantly, you are still a citizen of Pakistan. That means that you can live, work, and own property in your home country without any extra paperwork or permissions &#8211; which is not the case for non-citizens. If you want to move back, nothing at all is stopping you. No friction. You buy a plane ticket and never come back.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!H8je!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe1791a48-02db-4a1a-8f77-613380b6052c_612x408.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!H8je!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_424, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe1791a48-02db-4a1a-8f77-613380b6052c_612x408.jpeg 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!H8je!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_848, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe1791a48-02db-4a1a-8f77-613380b6052c_612x408.jpeg 848w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!H8je!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_1272, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe1791a48-02db-4a1a-8f77-613380b6052c_612x408.jpeg 1272w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!H8je!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_1456, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe1791a48-02db-4a1a-8f77-613380b6052c_612x408.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!H8je!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe1791a48-02db-4a1a-8f77-613380b6052c_612x408.jpeg" width="612" height="408" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/e1791a48-02db-4a1a-8f77-613380b6052c_612x408.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:408,&quot;width&quot;:612,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;111,700+ Plane Flying Away Stock Photos, Pictures &amp; 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He would have been left an American, an American only, and there is no way in hell he would have gone back to Pakistan. Which is not a good scenario from the perspective of American nationalism.</p><p>Now, is this sort of self-repatriation of citizens something that we should expect to be common? No. But remigration is hard in general. We haven&#8217;t really figured it out. What is quite clear is that stripping immigrants of their original citizenship means they are never going back.</p><h3>***</h3><p>Let&#8217;s sum up. If someone is <em>naturalizing down,</em> we probably want them in the country and shouldn&#8217;t put up any additional barriers. If someone is <em>naturalizing up,</em> they would gladly ditch their old passport even if they aren&#8217;t particularly loyal or patriotic towards their new country; and if they felt like going back, we don&#8217;t want to make it harder for them to remigrate.</p><p>&#8220;You are either American or you are not&#8221; sounds right for many Patriots whose hearts are in the right place. However, it&#8217;s important for a policy to actually make sense, not just sound right. A ban on dual citizenship does not make sense, and it does not advance the nationalist cause in any real, non-symbolic way. It&#8217;s time for the Right to figure out ideas that would actually work if they are serious about winning.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://shanggyangg.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Cultivated Wastelands! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I am not a lawyer, but I don&#8217;t think there is a way to interpret &#8220;All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States&#8221; in a way that excludes persons who hold a second citizenship.</p><p></p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[NAFO is leading Europe to a permanent disaster on the Russian front]]></title><description><![CDATA[The President of Estonia called me an orc on Twitter. In this essay, I will present my case against the existence of Eastern Europeans.]]></description><link>https://shanggyangg.substack.com/p/nafo-is-leading-europe-to-a-permanent</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://shanggyangg.substack.com/p/nafo-is-leading-europe-to-a-permanent</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Shanggyangg]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2025 17:11:09 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YFcJ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5dd72c2e-6548-4a9e-ad03-ed272b008d44_900x637.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The European project is fundamentally incomplete without Russia.</p><p>This is because Russia is the key to the security of Europe. Europe has natural borders on its North, West and South &#8212; but on the Eastern side, there is no natural border all the way until the Ural mountains deep into Russia. And Russia itself is a huge concentration of population, as well as economic and military power.</p><p>The geography is very simple. If Russia is friendly, Europe is secure. If Russia is hostile, it is not.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YFcJ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5dd72c2e-6548-4a9e-ad03-ed272b008d44_900x637.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YFcJ!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_424, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5dd72c2e-6548-4a9e-ad03-ed272b008d44_900x637.jpeg 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YFcJ!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_848, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, 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8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>This vulnerability has a very simple solution: integration of Russia as an equal European nation, a friend, a part of the club. If Russia is integrated, Europe has no enemies close by. Africa and Asia are separated by seas. China borders distant Siberian wilderness. Perfect conditions for long-term peace and development.</p><p>Of course, there is an issue: Europe is a free countries club, and Russia has a scarcity of freedom.</p><p>In the 90s, there came a perfect opportunity: the despotic Soviet regime in Russia collapsed, and the new regime was liberal and pro-Western. What&#8217;s more important is that the population also became very pro-Western. They wanted to be wealthy like Europeans &#8212; but they also wanted Europe&#8217;s prestige. They wanted to be in the Cool White Men Club.</p><p>Europe basically solved its Russia problem. The only risk was an autocratic comeback.</p><p>If a country liberalizes, there is always a chance that it slips back into authoritarianism. If this happened to Russia, Europe would be vulnerable again. And it was obvious from the start that Russia is high-risk. Transitions from dictatorship to democracy are hard, transitions from communism to capitalism are hard, transitions from superpower to just another nation are hard. Russia had to do all three.</p><p>I sure hope Europe does everything it can to strengthen Russian democracy and prevent a revanchist takeover!</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NwkB!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2336ebec-5a16-456c-8b62-174c61d631b6_679x680.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NwkB!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_424, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2336ebec-5a16-456c-8b62-174c61d631b6_679x680.jpeg 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NwkB!, 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Communism sucked! People wanted a normal life! Then the economy crashed, crime skyrocketed, Chechens rebelled, and the West mostly said: welp, good luck!<br><br>Even after the 90s were over, there was still eagerness to join the club. As late as Medvedev there were talks about free travel.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!h2LI!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F483ef35e-26d7-471b-8fcf-a5d68dd008ae_680x301.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!h2LI!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_424, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F483ef35e-26d7-471b-8fcf-a5d68dd008ae_680x301.jpeg 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!h2LI!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_848, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, 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/__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F483ef35e-26d7-471b-8fcf-a5d68dd008ae_680x301.jpeg 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!h2LI!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_848, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F483ef35e-26d7-471b-8fcf-a5d68dd008ae_680x301.jpeg 848w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!h2LI!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_1272, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F483ef35e-26d7-471b-8fcf-a5d68dd008ae_680x301.jpeg 1272w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!h2LI!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_1456, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F483ef35e-26d7-471b-8fcf-a5d68dd008ae_680x301.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 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Dmitry Medvedev, 2010.</figcaption></figure></div><p>But no feasible pathway to real integration was ever in sight, and revanchists were increasingly winning public opinion.</p><p>The fundamental issue is that Russia wanted to be treated like an equal &#8212; so either to be properly integrated into the Western alliance or to be recognized as a regional power with a sphere of influence. Neither was offered, so Russia slowly turned hostile by the 2010s.</p><p>Any empire transitioning into a nation wants to preserve its dignity. Putin rode a wave of national embarrassment into dictatorship &#8212; a wave that rose in the population because the unspoken promise "destroy the empire and become a wealthy Western nation" wasn't fulfilled.</p><p>Russians, both the people and the elites, saw that:<br><br>- They still aren't seen as equals by the West<br>- The club is closed<br>- Russia essentially dismantled its empire for nothing<br>- Meanwhile, NATO is expanding<br>- And the US bombs a new country every year<br><br>This is how you get Putinism.</p><p>So, oops, you messed up! You allowed a revanchist takeover of Russia, and now your geopolitical security is screwed. Congratulations.</p><p>Then the regime in Russia consolidates and radicalizes, and you end up with a huge European war.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_bLR!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6f4f5310-b5a4-44d8-8700-6794390f3962_680x593.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_bLR!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_424, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6f4f5310-b5a4-44d8-8700-6794390f3962_680x593.jpeg 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_bLR!, 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8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Does Russia itself bear responsibility for the war? Duh, obviously. But it is a result of a fundamental regime transformation that could have been prevented. The disaster could have been avoided if the West saw post-Soviet Russia as a serious integration project.</p><p>Now we are all back to square one.</p><p>Russia is still the key to European security. Geography is still real. After the war, there will still be two options: integrated Russia and peace, or hostile Russia and instability. So if Europe wants peace, it needs to be ready to make friends with a post-Putinist Russia.</p><p>And here the Kaja Kallases of the world enter the stage.<br><br>EU integrated a bunch of Eastern European countries before it even considered Russia. Those countries brought with themselves their ethnic grievances against Russia &#8212; and are now running the anti-Russian circus.</p><p>Now, do Poles and Balts have good reasons to hate Russians? Sure, our history isn't nice. The French also have good reasons to hate Germans. They had enough sense to step over the hatred and build something great together instead.</p><p>A post-war peace requires a reformed Russia.<br><br>But the Eastern Europeans, the Kaja Kallases, the NAFO people have a different idea &#8212; that Russia is unreformable, Russians are all evil by blood, and Europe should just prepare to kill them.</p><p>They have created a mythological version of history in which a liberal Russia never existed, and all post-Soviet conflicts in Moldova, Georgia, or Chechnya are the same thing as the Ukraine war. You see, when Georgian or Moldovan nationalists scare their ethnic minorities into starting a secessionist war and Russia sends a few internationally approved peacekeepers in the 90s, it was actually Russian imperialism all along! And while Georgia has a total right to bomb Abkhazians and Ossetians into submission, Russia doing the same with Chechens in Chechnya &#8212; legally a part of Russia &#8212; is agression.</p><p>There are legitimate ways to criticize Russian foreign policy in the 90s and 00s. There sure are good arguments that Moscow should have allowed Chechens to secede. But the idea of an Eternal Moscovite waging wars all over former USSR in the 90s is ahistorical, and no one in Europe at the time thought that&#8217;s what was happening. Russian liberalism was real. Normal Russia existed.</p><p>NAFO does not believe that normal Russia existed, because their view is fundamentally not based on values &#8212; it&#8217;s based on ethnic animosity.</p><p>This is the main problem with Eastern European elites (and their constituencies). They pretend to be enlightened Westerners &#8212; but on a fundamental level there is very little difference between Russian nationalism of Putin and Estonian, or Moldovan, or Polish nationalism of anti-Russian Eastern European elites.</p><p>Here the former president of Estonia (now a NAFO shitposter) is replying to me (not a former or current president, and a superior poaster) on Twitter to say that Russians are evil because they are Asians.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!IogZ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F25a528d6-6c3f-4033-ac9f-096b64b30cd5_680x633.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!IogZ!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_424, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, 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Is he a universalist humanist? Is this different from Solovyov and Russian propaganda?</p><p>The NAFO vision of eternally hostile Russia is a vision of eternal war.<br><br>Under their guidance, instead of building bridges with Russian liberals and Kremlin moderates to stop the war, reform Russia, and finish the European project together, Europe pushed them away. </p><p>Restrictions on travel, emigration, banking, money transfers, and many other measures that were completely useless to stop the war or undermine Putin&#8217;s regime have made life miserable for the most pro-Western part of Russian society. 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/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aj_1!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_1456, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa634a0d4-ad74-413e-affc-8f2380db6f37_726x240.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Imagine being a Russian lib reading this.</figcaption></figure></div><p>Every day this policy continues, the chances of post-Putinist Russia becoming liberal, democratic, and peaceful go down. Every day brings us closer to endless war.</p><p>Which is a disaster for Europe &#8212; because Russia is the key to European security.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://shanggyangg.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Cultivated Wastelands! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Independence for Gaza is in Israel’s own interest]]></title><description><![CDATA[Jews can do better than this]]></description><link>https://shanggyangg.substack.com/p/independence-for-gaza-is-in-israels</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://shanggyangg.substack.com/p/independence-for-gaza-is-in-israels</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Shanggyangg]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2025 14:46:15 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SkHk!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F17731767-c55a-462f-a7e5-ec79bebc5c26_732x786.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<ol><li><p>The war in Gaza has been going on for almost two years now, and the larger Israeli-Palestinian conflict for almost eight decades. That&#8217;s a lot of war, and no one is better off for that. To end the generations-long destruction of lives, wealth, and liberties, the war must end with &#8220;a solution&#8221; &#8211; that is, with a fundamental rearrangement of the region&#8217;s ethnopolitical balance that would make a new war not happen.</p></li><li><p>Israel is strong and Palestine is weak. That means that any solution is ultimately Israel&#8217;s to devise, and that the Palestinians&#8217; best and only hope is not their own struggle but Israel&#8217;s moderation and mercy. There will never be a Palestine from the river to the sea.</p></li><li><p>The uniqueness of the Israeli-Palestinian case is that Israel effectively bars Palestine from acting as a sovereign state &#8211; by international non-recognition, military dominance, directly controlling a zone of the West Bank, encouraging Jewish settlements, etc. &#8211; but it also doesn&#8217;t want to integrate Palestinians as citizens. Most conquerors don&#8217;t do that. This is what makes pro-Palestinian commentators draw comparisons to South Africa&#8217;s apartheid &#8211; two ethnic populations separated by two different legal regimes enforced by one authority.</p></li><li><p>Regime of this nature can never be stable: one of the two populations is so clearly disadvantaged that they will never stop rebelling. Rebellions can be suppressed by force, but it&#8217;s a fundamentally unsustainable equilibrium.</p></li><li><p>Can Israel just kill its way out of the crisis? So far the deaths of over 60 thousand Gazans have been confirmed; perhaps up to 100 thousand actual dead is a reasonable upper estimate. That&#8217;s 5% of the population of Gaza and 2% of the population of Palestine in two years. To kill this much Israel destroyed its international reputation, making itself very unpopular throughout the world &#8211; most crucially, in the United States, their key ally and protector. Is Israel 5% in into the war&#8217;s timeline? Is it going to fight for another decade or two? Is it ready to become a pariah state? Will Israelis, who are a people with hearts, souls and empathy, tolerate this? None of this is feasible.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pbqs!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F301af1a1-b6ca-4418-8857-0ca599d4d50e_561x1024.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pbqs!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_424, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F301af1a1-b6ca-4418-8857-0ca599d4d50e_561x1024.png 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pbqs!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_848, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, 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class="image-caption">Bad bad numbers. Not good. <a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/06/03/most-people-across-24-surveyed-countries-have-negative-views-of-israel-and-netanyahu/">Pew Research Center, June 2025</a>.</figcaption></figure></div></li><li><p>For some time Israel seems to have hoped it could expel the entire population of Gaza, turn them all into refugees and just take the empty land. This didn&#8217;t work because no one wanted Palestinians. Trump&#8217;s pseudo-plan for the American takeover of Gaza also implied expulsion. No one ever had any idea how any of this is possible because it was not. Israel has no capacities to deport two million people to no place in particular. The only solution is political, with Palestinians in place.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1-OD!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8af44121-649c-439a-89e8-139a6223180c_1200x675.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1-OD!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_424, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8af44121-649c-439a-89e8-139a6223180c_1200x675.jpeg 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1-OD!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_848, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, 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class="image-caption">It didn&#8217;t, who would have guessed</figcaption></figure></div></li><li><p>Two solutions are integration and separation. Integration is a full union of Israel and Palestine in which every person gets a full citizenship and equal rights &#8211; either as an equal merge of the two (impossible because one side is so much more powerful) or as annexation of all Palestinian territories by Israel. Separation is complete independence of Palestine as a fully recognized sovereign state over which Israel exercises no control at all.</p></li><li><p>Survival of Israel as a Jewish state is an existential objective of Israel itself, a nuclear power, as well as the global Jewry with all its wealth, influence and lobbying power. This means that any solution where Israel ceases to be a Jewish state is impossible.</p></li><li><p>The demographic reality of the Israel-Palestine region is that its population is 7 million Arabs and 7 million Jews, locked in an almost perfect parity. A unified state would be a 50-50 split. An Israel that annexes Palestine and naturalizes Palestinians would instantly become half-Arab.</p></li><li><p>A state that is 50-50 Jewish-Arab is not a Jewish state in any meaningful sense. It&#8217;s a binational state. Therefore, full annexation of Palestine into Israel is impossible.</p></li><li><p>If integration is impossible, the only way out is separation &#8211; Palestinian independence. In its most popular form this option is known as &#8220;the two-state solution&#8221;.</p></li><li><p>West Bank and Gaza are terrible at being one country. They aren&#8217;t connected by land, between them lies a hostile nation, and they have been controlled by different political groups since 2008. And neither is that much smaller than the other one &#8211; it&#8217;s a 60/40 split &#8211; so neither will tolerate another one&#8217;s dominance. Noah Smith makes a decent case for his &#8220;three-state solution&#8221; &#8211; that is, creating <em>two</em> independent Arab states out of Palestine, a sovereign Gaza as well as a sovereign West Bank-Palestine. No one seems to want it, but it&#8217;s a good deal for the Arabs.</p><div class="embedded-post-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;id&quot;:137779024,&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/a-three-state-solution-is-the-only&quot;,&quot;publication_id&quot;:35345,&quot;embedding_publication_id&quot;:null,&quot;publication_name&quot;:&quot;Noahpinion&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!l14h!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04281755-2cd6-42e5-a496-e69153abebb2_281x281.png&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;A three-state solution is the only viable future for Israel and the Palestinians&quot;,&quot;truncated_body_text&quot;:&quot;I&#8217;ve doggedly avoided commenting on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict up until now. This conflict is one where the amount of emotion, ideology, and media attention in the U.S. and the West in general is far out of proportion to how much it actually affects American strategic inte&#8230;&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2023-10-08T20:21:39.845Z&quot;,&quot;like_count&quot;:492,&quot;comment_count&quot;:211,&quot;bylines&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:8243895,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Noah Smith&quot;,&quot;handle&quot;:&quot;noahpinion&quot;,&quot;previous_name&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/89fd964a-586f-461a-9f5a-ea4587d45728_397x441.png&quot;,&quot;bio&quot;:&quot;Econ blogger&quot;,&quot;profile_set_up_at&quot;:&quot;2021-04-20T04:22:21.972Z&quot;,&quot;reader_installed_at&quot;:&quot;2022-11-30T18:41:46.881Z&quot;,&quot;publicationUsers&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:258809,&quot;user_id&quot;:8243895,&quot;publication_id&quot;:35345,&quot;role&quot;:&quot;admin&quot;,&quot;public&quot;:true,&quot;is_primary&quot;:true,&quot;publication&quot;:{&quot;id&quot;:35345,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Noahpinion&quot;,&quot;subdomain&quot;:&quot;noahpinion&quot;,&quot;custom_domain&quot;:&quot;www.noahpinion.blog&quot;,&quot;custom_domain_optional&quot;:false,&quot;hero_text&quot;:&quot;Economics and other interesting stuff&quot;,&quot;logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/04281755-2cd6-42e5-a496-e69153abebb2_281x281.png&quot;,&quot;author_id&quot;:8243895,&quot;primary_user_id&quot;:8243895,&quot;theme_var_background_pop&quot;:&quot;#6B26FF&quot;,&quot;created_at&quot;:&quot;2020-03-28T03:32:51.087Z&quot;,&quot;email_from_name&quot;:&quot;Noahpinion&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;Noah Smith&quot;,&quot;founding_plan_name&quot;:&quot;Founding Member&quot;,&quot;community_enabled&quot;:true,&quot;invite_only&quot;:false,&quot;payments_state&quot;:&quot;enabled&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:null,&quot;explicit&quot;:false,&quot;homepage_type&quot;:null,&quot;is_personal_mode&quot;:false}}],&quot;twitter_screen_name&quot;:&quot;Noahpinion&quot;,&quot;is_guest&quot;:false,&quot;bestseller_tier&quot;:10000,&quot;status&quot;:{&quot;bestsellerTier&quot;:10000,&quot;subscriberTier&quot;:10,&quot;leaderboard&quot;:{&quot;ranking&quot;:&quot;paid&quot;,&quot;rank&quot;:2,&quot;publicationName&quot;:&quot;Noahpinion&quot;,&quot;label&quot;:&quot;Business&quot;,&quot;categoryId&quot;:62},&quot;vip&quot;:false,&quot;badge&quot;:{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;bestseller&quot;,&quot;tier&quot;:10000}}}],&quot;utm_campaign&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;newsletter&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;,&quot;source&quot;:null}" data-component-name="EmbeddedPostToDOM"><a class="embedded-post" native="true" href="https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/a-three-state-solution-is-the-only?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_campaign=post_embed&amp;utm_medium=web"><div class="embedded-post-header"><img class="embedded-post-publication-logo" src="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!l14h!,w_56,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04281755-2cd6-42e5-a496-e69153abebb2_281x281.png"><span class="embedded-post-publication-name">Noahpinion</span></div><div class="embedded-post-title-wrapper"><div class="embedded-post-title">A three-state solution is the only viable future for Israel and the Palestinians</div></div><div class="embedded-post-body">I&#8217;ve doggedly avoided commenting on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict up until now. This conflict is one where the amount of emotion, ideology, and media attention in the U.S. and the West in general is far out of proportion to how much it actually affects American strategic inte&#8230;</div><div class="embedded-post-cta-wrapper"><span class="embedded-post-cta">Read more</span></div><div class="embedded-post-meta">3 years ago &#183; 492 likes &#183; 211 comments &#183; Noah Smith</div></a></div></li><li><p>Divided nations actually do OK. Albania and Kosovo, Romania and Moldova, Serbia and Montenegro are all perfectly fine being one ethnic group with two states. Nationalists don&#8217;t like it but it&#8217;s fine. And Arabs notoriously have a million independent states of all shapes and sizes.</p></li><li><p>Gaza is probably one of the most worthless pieces of land in the world, especially for Israel. It&#8217;s not hopeless &#8211; it has a coastline, after all. But Israel really does not need a tiny, extremely densely populated piece of the third world populated by two million Arabs who hate them.</p></li><li><p>Gaza independence would bring the following benefits to Israel. First, it would take 2 million Palestinian Arabs out of the equation, meaning that the demographic composition of the remaining region will have a reasonable Jewish majority of 57% against Arabs&#8217; 38%. Second, some West Bank Palestinians might choose to move to the Free Gaza Republic where they could live as free citizens of their own state rather than as a subjugated population, shifting the balance even further in Israel&#8217;s favor.</p></li><li><p>Of course, for the Gaza Republic to be an attractive place even for fellow Palestinians it should be livable. Turning the entire place to rubble definitely didn&#8217;t help. Gaza needs to be reasonably stable and prosperous (&#8220;<a href="https://x.com/kunley_drukpa/status/1912849226607833507">basically fine</a>&#8221;) to function as an &#8220;all Arabs please move there&#8221; place that Israel needs. Every extra day of war, every bombed building, every killed person is another step further from that possibility.</p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1mpg2glz1zo">Israel&#8217;s current plan</a> includes, after fully occupying the Gaza Strip and annihilating all that&#8217;s still left from Hamas, <em>&#8220;the establishment of an alternative civilian administration that is neither Hamas nor the Palestinian Authority&#8221;.</em> Is that supposed to imply a vision for the post-Hamas Gaza state? The last two years didn&#8217;t give much reasons to be optimistic about the Netanyahu government&#8217;s long-term planning capabilities.</p></li><li><p>This is probably counterintuitive to most, but independence for Gaza is much more feasible than for the West Bank. The only thing really holding Israel from leaving Gaza entirely is security &#8211; the issue of Hamas or a possible succession movement. If an &#8220;alternative civilian administration&#8221; is successfully established Israel can just exit any moment. Ant the threat of Gaza War Two might be enough to keep this administration at bay even if they hate Israel to their guts.</p></li><li><p>Will Israel ever let the West Bank go? Other than the border gore, there is also a big issue of Jewish settlers. There is half a million of them, and their population is growing because a lot of them are Ultra-Orthodox and have 7 kids per family. Will 500 thousand Haredi settlers of Judea and Samaria outbreed 2.5 million Muslim Arabs of the West Bank? Very unlikely, but they do keep shifting the ethnic balance of the place.</p></li><li><p>Settlers are a large voting block, they have strong support among Zionist groups, and they are 5% of all Israeli population. UN can pass a million resolutions, Israel will never kick the settlers out of the West Bank if they aren&#8217;t forced to. And there is no one who can and want to force them.</p></li><li><p>If I were an Israeli colonialist planner, I would concentrate the settler population in the Jerusalem agglomeration and around Jericho.</p></li><li><p>Jerusalem&#8217;s growth and development is artificially suppressed by the Israeli-Palestinian border that encircles the city. <a href="/__u/loveoftheland.substack.com/p/bad-for-palestinians-worse-for-jerusalem">Bethlehem and Ramallah are a natural part of the Jerusalem agglomeration</a>. Establishment of some sort of zone around the city with more freedom of movement and business activity for the locals might be a step towards painlessly annexing the area, unlocking Jerusalem&#8217;s growth potential and splitting the West Bank in two for good. Giving local Palestinians an option to become Israeli citizens will set a positive precedent of integration.</p></li><li><p>This still leaves two large concentrations of Palestinians, around Nablus and Hebron. Ideally, I would imagine the final arrangement to be some sort of autonomous almost-states, something on the lines of the way Hong Kong and Makao within China &#8211; politically self-governing and economically integrated. Nothing in this world plays out ideally so none of this is likely to happen, but a path towards something similar could be an improvement over the current situation.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SkHk!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F17731767-c55a-462f-a7e5-ec79bebc5c26_732x786.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SkHk!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_424, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F17731767-c55a-462f-a7e5-ec79bebc5c26_732x786.png 424w, 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Chutzpah in a way, but really not the worst deal compared to <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/03/world/middleeast/israel-west-bank-annexations.html">other options</a>.</figcaption></figure></div><p></p></li><li><p>Gaza independence unlocks all those possibilities. Gaza independence breaks the deadlock of the 50-50 population split and allows Israel to be creative without necessarily being cruel. It&#8217;s an obvious and necessary step on the path towards peace and stability, both of which are necessary if Israel wants to remain a first world nation. And to make an independent Gaza happen, it&#8217;s time for Israel to find a way to end this war.</p></li></ol><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://shanggyangg.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Cultivated Wastelands! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[The least-bad ending for the Ukraine war]]></title><description><![CDATA[Ukraine should take the deal.]]></description><link>https://shanggyangg.substack.com/p/the-least-bad-ending-for-the-ukraine</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://shanggyangg.substack.com/p/the-least-bad-ending-for-the-ukraine</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Shanggyangg]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2025 20:43:37 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UaA8!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F23f7a592-497f-41e7-b46a-7652315cb0eb_737x794.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On March 6, 2022, ten days into the Russia-Ukraine war, I made a prediction that ended up being pretty accurate.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UaA8!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F23f7a592-497f-41e7-b46a-7652315cb0eb_737x794.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UaA8!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_424, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, 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Don&#8217;t take this too seriously. Still, I was onto something, right?</p><p>Right now, the line of control follows my prediction closely enough, with one major exception being the northwestern part of the Donetsk region &#8211; the area around the Slavyansk-Kramatorsk agglomeration. Slavyansk was briefly held by Igor Strelkov&#8217;s rebel group in early 2014 and remains an important symbol for Russian nationalists. If Russia establishes control over it and completes the conquest of Donbass, it could credibly claim (Pyrrhic) victory.</p><p>After the Alaska meeting between Putin and Trump, this map became the new ceasefire deal outline. Reportedly, Putin agreed to stop the fighting and turn to diplomacy if Ukraine cedes all of the Donetsk region to Russia. This is a major step down from Russia&#8217;s previous, clearly unrealistic demand of ceding the entirety of the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions &#8211; including their capitals, the cities of Kherson (which Russia captured in 2022 but lost to Ukraine half a year later) and Zaporozhye (which Russia was never even close to taking). Slavyansk and Kramatorsk are much smaller cities, and historically much more pro-Russian. 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It&#8217;s also a very dense, highly industrialized area that is basically one big fortress. It is a lot to give up for a ceasefire.</p><p>It&#8217;s a bad deal. Ukraine should take it.</p><p><strong>Why Ukraine should take the deal</strong></p><p>The war keeps bleeding out both Russia and Ukraine. Both sides are likely at 200k+ dead at this point &#8211; a scale of human life loss that was unthinkable for Europe a few years ago. The war in Afghanistan, still remembered in Russia as a major disaster, was an order of magnitude less costly.</p><p>&#8220;Busification&#8221; &#8211; forceful mobilization of unwilling Ukrainian men &#8211; has become a Russian propagandistic clich&#233;, but it remains true. Manpower shortages are real. They are real for Russia too &#8211; it has larger reserves, but more political risks, and bribing your poor into enlisting with large salaries and compensations only gets you so far &#8211; but Ukraine is seemingly in a worse place.</p><p>Russia has been advancing at a glacial pace for the last few years, suffering insane losses for every square mile. Yet, it has been advancing. Ukraine has overperformed all expectations in defending itself. Yet, it has been slowly retreating. Last week wasn&#8217;t good for Ukraine.</p><p>With the way things have been going, there is a good chance Putin can brute-force his way to Slavyansk and Kramatorsk in another year, or two, or three. By that time, the total death toll of the war will far exceed half a million. The end result will be the same for both sides, except more people will die. Way more people will die.</p><p>Ukraine is not well. It&#8217;s in a tough demographic position. It doesn&#8217;t have another hundred thousand men to spare. The southern offensive in 2023 didn&#8217;t work out. The invasion of Russia&#8217;s Kursk region didn&#8217;t work out. It&#8217;s time to quit.</p><p>If Russia is not defeated on the battlefield, <strong>won&#8217;t Putin just reinvade a few years after the peace deal?</strong> I don't think that's likely &#8212; the plan was always a quick victory, Putin didn't want a prolonged war and didn't prepare for it, and the costs were several orders of magnitude larger than anyone expected. He wants out on his own terms, not back in. The ceasefire will last.</p><p>Ideally, Russia should relinquish claims to Ukraine-held parts of Kherson and Zaporozhye. It&#8217;s not implausible legally: while Russia did put both regions in its constitution, it might circumvent it by noting the constitution doesn&#8217;t outline their exact borders. The official capital of Russian Zaporozhye region is not Zaporozhye, but rather Melitopol, a smaller (and more historically Russophilic) city that Russia captured in the first days of the war &#8211; a fact that might suggest that control over the city of Zaporozhye was never really in the plan. After the war, Russia might even reorganize the regions into a unified Melitopol oblast or something similar, which will make a lot of sense geographically and administratively.</p><p>Even if Russia doesn&#8217;t give up its claims officially, it is clearly already prepared to give them up de-facto. It needs Donbass, and doesn&#8217;t really need anything else.</p><p><strong>Russia doesn&#8217;t really need anything else</strong></p><p>Among pro-Russian commentators, there is a strong tendency to overestimate Ukraine&#8217;s Russophilia. Some claim that all of Ukraine is basically Russian, maybe except for the westernmost, Catholic Galicia. A more common and grounded version is that the Southeastern half of Ukraine is Russophilic and the Western half is russophobic.</p><p>Historically, indeed, this has been somewhat true. Regions of Odessa, Nikolayev/Mykolaiv, Kherson, Zaporozhye/Zaporizhzhia, Dnepropetrovsk, Kharkov, Lugansk, Donetsk, and, of course, Crimea were significantly more Russian-speaking than the rest of Ukraine and tended to vote for pro-Russian parties. 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/__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_1456, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fea0a9c72-1e72-4d59-8087-e17af6768b19_1417x990.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>Presidential election of 2004, one of the clearest examples of Ukraine&#8217;s political geography.</em></p><p>The roots of this divide are deep, centuries old. To simplify it, the &#8220;Russophobic&#8221; Western and Central Ukraine is its ethnic core, while the Southeast is a settler colony. A region known historically as Novorossiya, or New Russia (a name that is now heavily politicized and only used by hardcore Russophiles) was only really settled by the 18-19th centuries as a colonial project of the Russian Empire. Most settlers were ethnically Ukrainian, but a substantial portion were Russian, and some were foreigners from Eastern Europe and the Balkans.</p><p>Novorossiya&#8217;s melting pot produced a territory that was a strong Russo-Ukrainian mix, with Russian being a dominant language of urban areas, as well as of commerce and culture, while the peasant majority was still Ukrainian-speaking.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VnJq!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe84eca93-039b-4b7b-aece-f12726662c62_809x368.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VnJq!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_424, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe84eca93-039b-4b7b-aece-f12726662c62_809x368.png 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VnJq!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_848, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe84eca93-039b-4b7b-aece-f12726662c62_809x368.png 848w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VnJq!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_1272, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe84eca93-039b-4b7b-aece-f12726662c62_809x368.png 1272w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VnJq!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_1456, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe84eca93-039b-4b7b-aece-f12726662c62_809x368.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VnJq!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe84eca93-039b-4b7b-aece-f12726662c62_809x368.png" width="809" height="368" 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/__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe84eca93-039b-4b7b-aece-f12726662c62_809x368.png 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VnJq!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_848, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe84eca93-039b-4b7b-aece-f12726662c62_809x368.png 848w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VnJq!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_1272, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe84eca93-039b-4b7b-aece-f12726662c62_809x368.png 1272w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VnJq!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_1456, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe84eca93-039b-4b7b-aece-f12726662c62_809x368.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>Russian Ukraine&#8217;s ethnic map, 1897, by me. Urban and rural areas separated. Orange is Ukrainian, blue is Russian, green is Tatar, purple is Jewish.</em></p><p>Bolsheviks made things even more complicated. They allotted Novorossiya (the name itself quickly fading into obscurity) to the nascent Soviet Ukraine and expanded the official role of the Ukrainian language, but also ramped up industrial urbanization which shifted the population balance in favor of Russian-speaking big cities. The result was a population that retained a vague sense of Ukrainian identity, but mostly spoke Russian at home and was culturally in sync with Russia proper.</p><p>It produced a specimen called <em>a Russian-speaking Ukrainian.</em> Nationalists hated it: its existence defied the myth of Ukraine&#8217;s ethno-linguistic purity. Nationalists wanted a monoethnic, monolingual, centralized unitary nation-state, and the southeastern people wanted nothing to do with it. They preferred a bilingual society with more regional self-rule and cultural variation.</p><p>The thing is, however, that separatism among them was never strong.</p><p>It was more real in Crimea, which was a very late addition to Soviet Ukraine and never had anything close to a Ukrainian majority. Outside of the peninsula, though, separatist activism was mostly concentrated in Donbass, which has a far greater share of ethnic Russians (and not just Russian speakers). Both Odessa and Kharkov did have some Russian nationalists, and were predominantly Russian-speaking, but its political life was dominated by Russophilic reformists who stood for a Russia-friendly but independent Ukraine.</p><p>By 2014 pro-Western attitudes were strong even among some Russian speakers. A great illustration is this map:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!A2h-!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F519986f3-fdb0-47f6-b748-09fd1ddcfb8e_826x551.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!A2h-!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_424, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F519986f3-fdb0-47f6-b748-09fd1ddcfb8e_826x551.png 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!A2h-!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_848, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, 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src="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!A2h-!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F519986f3-fdb0-47f6-b748-09fd1ddcfb8e_826x551.png" width="826" height="551" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/519986f3-fdb0-47f6-b748-09fd1ddcfb8e_826x551.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:551,&quot;width&quot;:826,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!A2h-!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_424, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, 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/__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F519986f3-fdb0-47f6-b748-09fd1ddcfb8e_826x551.png 1272w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!A2h-!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_1456, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F519986f3-fdb0-47f6-b748-09fd1ddcfb8e_826x551.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" 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y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>What is depicted here is the ratio of subscribers of the pro-Western and pro-Russian VK groups in February-March 2014, right when Russia was annexing Crimea. Pro-Western attitudes absolutely dominate Ukraine&#8217;s West and Center, but even in the Southeast they prevail. Crimea and Donbass are the only regions where the population was actively and predominantly pro-Russian. A notable exception is the light-blue Melitopol, the largest (modestly) pro-Russian city outside Crimea and Donbass. It&#8217;s not a coincidence that Russia&#8217;s reign over it was pretty peaceful.</p><p>Russia&#8217;s popularity in Ukraine, including the Southeast, has obviously fallen after the Crimea takeover, and collapsed after the war started. Anyone who was online in February 2022 could see that people in Odessa were not happy about being bombed. But the pro-Russian parties were not winning much in the Southeast &#8211; outside of the Ukraine-held parts of Donbass &#8211; since 2014.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tt1h!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdb4adddf-21af-4c3e-ba60-75551d9d6a36_1156x1024.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tt1h!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_424, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdb4adddf-21af-4c3e-ba60-75551d9d6a36_1156x1024.png 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tt1h!, 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/__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_1456, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdb4adddf-21af-4c3e-ba60-75551d9d6a36_1156x1024.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>2019 presidential election. Centrist Zelensky dominates the country, but Donbass stands with the uncharismatic Russophile Boyko.</em></p><p>With very few minor exceptions, Russia&#8217;s takeover of Slavyansk-Kramatorsk will complete its conquest of the Russophilic Ukraine. Outside of Crimea and Donbass &#8211; and a relatively Russophile, lightly populated, and strategically crucial Crimean corridor &#8211; Russia will have a hard time finding new supporters. And every inch of conquest has a price tag in blood.</p><p>There are no good endings to a war that have already killed hundreds of thousands for control over dilapidated villages and Soviet rust belt towns. Ukraine will not have its borders back, and Russia isn&#8217;t getting a cool empire. Wars usually end in disappointment. This one will &#8211; for everyone.</p><p>But a deal now will be the least-bad ending for both countries. If there is a time to stop, it is now.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://shanggyangg.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Cultivated Wastelands! 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The girl &#8212; my friend since early childhood &#8212; went to visit her grandmother, and I walked her to the door. We parted; she went up the staircase, and I went home with a racing heart. </p><p>It was a bad kiss; we both didn't really know what we were doing. We tried going out, and it didn't really work either. We remained good friends. I don't regret any of it.</p><p>She kept visiting her grandmother almost every day whenever she was in town. Back then the old woman was still of sound mind, she just needed help with the chores. </p><p>That changed soon. She started forgetting things. She forgot in which city she lived. She forgot that her husband died 15 years ago, and started hallucinating that he was in the other room, or out shopping, or was there just now. She forgot how to take care of herself, how to cook, how to wash. She forgot the meaning of words. She forgot names and faces of people who were with her every day. </p><p>She was largely immobile and almost non-verbal in her last months. Her descent into dementia was faster than for many, but slow enough for everyone to understand that she was dying. </p><p>Yesterday she forgot how to swallow. She tried drinking some water from a glass and took a sip but forgot what one does next. </p><p>She died this morning. It was expected. </p><p>The girl kept visiting her until the last day. After it was over, she was there to clean the empty room and to take care of the cat. She is taking it better than I thought she would.</p><p>My grandmother had a stroke yesterday. She was hospitalized quickly enough to survive the day. She remains on life support, half-paralized and half-sentient. </p><p>Her descent into dementia was much more gradual. She was diagnosed with Alzheimer's some ten years ago. She was losing her mind slower than many were expecting &#8212; five or so years past diagnose she was still recognising her family, although she struggled with telling apart her son from her grandson. She now tells no one apart, and can't take care of herself in any manner. Her ability for cognizant speech was reduced to rudimentary. </p><p>I won't wait for her to die before I publish this post, but she likely will soon. Even if she survives past this week, she will have maybe a few more months of barely sentient, diminished existence.</p><p>Her mind has long been dead. She doesn't remember the names of her children. The stroke, indeed, was expected.</p><p>There is a verb in Russian &#8212; &#1086;&#1090;&#1084;&#1091;&#1095;&#1072;&#1090;&#1100;&#1089;&#1103; &#8212; with the exact meaning of &#8222;for a person to stop suffering because of their death.&#8220;</p><p>This is the word my mother used when her own grandmother died at 96 after several months of pain, blindness and madness. It was a harsh word to use, but it was true.</p><p>By all accounts, the woman lived a long, accomplished life. She saw her grear-grandchildren grow, myself among them. She outlived her eldest son by half a year, although her family kept it a secret from her. But when she went away, she did so in agony. </p><p>She was 96. It was expected. </p><p>We talk a lot about the tragedy of unexpected death. Some people die young. Some people die in accidents that could have been avoided. Some people are killed by criminals or die on the battlefield. It is tragic, of course. But to me, the silent terror of expected death is more horrifying. There is no going out with a blast, no way to romanticise it, no honor. You just rot, until you rotted to the end. </p><p>My first introduction to the idea of optional death was a Russian sci-fi novel for kids. I read it at 12 or something, and only remember two things from it: a nude scene, and that by the end of the book humanity solved aging and death.</p><p>The book presented the same argument that any other RLE proponent would: death is simply a huge waste of life. No one likes to die, and no one likes when their loved ones die. If we ascribe any value to life, we must ascribe negative value to death. It just made sense. It still makes sense to me. A few people have already died on me when I read it; many more since.</p><p>When you stop for a moment and think about it, you realise that it's absolutely insane that it's a fringe topic and not the official global issue #1. It's maddening. </p><p>What if right after killing smallpox the UN declared that their next target is aging and age-related mental decline? What if we spent 1% &#8212; way less than we really should &#8212; of global GDP on RLE research? Would we still live in the world where millions upon millions of kind and smart people perished every years after going through a long torture and losing their human mind? No one really thought smallpox would become history either, until it did. </p><p>I'm ranting. This is not a science post, and I am not a biologist. All I can do is lament and hope people smarter than me will figures it out. </p><p>Maybe we will get there. Maybe the magical breakthrough is already in development in some California lab, or maybe something something ASI will do it for us. </p><p>Or maybe we will just keep dying and keep burying people we once loved. Maybe I, too, will forget how to eat and drink and die as an empty human shell, a former person. </p><p>I don't know. I just wish I lived it a world where it was not expected. </p><p>https://aging.fyi/</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Thoughts on Syria]]></title><description><![CDATA[On importance of thinking twice before you kill millions for no good reason]]></description><link>https://shanggyangg.substack.com/p/thoughts-on-syria</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://shanggyangg.substack.com/p/thoughts-on-syria</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Shanggyangg]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 03 Dec 2024 02:03:08 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0Jg-!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa80526c6-6984-4a9e-906d-9d54797bf131_1821x914.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Habbenings are habbening in Syria. Aleppo has fallen! Assad in retreat! What&#8217;s next? Who knows; maybe nothing, maybe a million people die.</p><p>Bellow are my seven loosely connected thoughts on this war, Syria, Israel, Middle East, and human stupidity.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://shanggyangg.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Cultivated Wastelands! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0Jg-!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa80526c6-6984-4a9e-906d-9d54797bf131_1821x914.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0Jg-!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_424, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, 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/__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa80526c6-6984-4a9e-906d-9d54797bf131_1821x914.png 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0Jg-!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_848, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa80526c6-6984-4a9e-906d-9d54797bf131_1821x914.png 848w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0Jg-!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_1272, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa80526c6-6984-4a9e-906d-9d54797bf131_1821x914.png 1272w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0Jg-!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_1456, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa80526c6-6984-4a9e-906d-9d54797bf131_1821x914.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><strong>1.</strong> The Middle East doesn't make sense. Look at this thing! It doesn&#8217;t make sense! Borders are random and terrible. Because borders are random and terrible, states inside them are also terrible, and they don&#8217;t work. Because states don&#8217;t work, war never ends.</p><p>This is not optimal: if something breaks all the time, it means it was poorly designed. A poorly designed nation is a death trap for its citizens. A poorly designed region of several nations is a live horror show, and the whole world is watching one.</p><p></p><p><strong>2.</strong> Israel doesn't make sense either. It's a country of seven million Jews in a region of hundreds of millions anti-semites. In anti-Zionist reading, the Jews made the Arabs anti-semitic by being mean to Palestinians. In Zionist reading, Arabs simply hate Jews because they are evil by nature. Either way, it does not look like an equilibrium.</p><p>A successful settler-colonial project requires significant numerical superiority over the colonized. Europeans settled the New World because they were breeding like crazy, and because Native population of the Americas wasn&#8217;t very large. Jews do not have this advantage: they are a small group, and while their fertility is remarkable for a developed nation, it&#8217;s comparable to that of local Muslims. Jews barely have a slim majority in the combined Israel-Palestine, and outside its borders it&#8217;s zero Jews and a trillion Arabs.</p><p>It&#8217;s a miracle that Israel still exists, given how stupid it is as a concept. It survived because Jews are a remarkable people. But wasting them on a piece of desert because of 2000-years-old grievances and religious symbolism is probably one of the greatest misallocations of human capital in history.</p><div id="youtube2-tQMRwk8WDd4" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;tQMRwk8WDd4&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/tQMRwk8WDd4?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p></p><p><strong>3.</strong> On the other hand, Israel makes perfect sense. Look at the map: inland Middle East is a sea of Sunni Arabs, but the Levantine coast is a weird sect country &#8211; from Alawites to the north, to the Maronites, the Shias, and then the Jews are just another link in the chain.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TJlx!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4c59edf9-4b3f-4c86-9ca2-d890c774dd68_2000x1458.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TJlx!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_424, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, 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/__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4c59edf9-4b3f-4c86-9ca2-d890c774dd68_2000x1458.jpeg 848w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TJlx!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_1272, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4c59edf9-4b3f-4c86-9ca2-d890c774dd68_2000x1458.jpeg 1272w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TJlx!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_1456, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4c59edf9-4b3f-4c86-9ca2-d890c774dd68_2000x1458.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div 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Maybe they can all be friends?</p><p>Weird Coastal Levantine Nations, small but nice and better-developed, each a homeland to its own unique ethno-religious group, on one side; Sunni Arabs, an inland populational behemoth, on the other &#8211; perhaps that could be a more reasonable regional balance. The border would be clear, the divide would make sense. This might actually be the least bad option for the region.</p><p>Now, of course, this is a fantasy. Palestine makes Israel toxic, and right now Tel Aviv seems to have no idea what to do with it. Lebanon is a mess, and its Christians have lost the holds on power. And the Alawite state doesn&#8217;t exist.</p><p></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zrVX!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb6be8ad7-95ab-4223-b4ee-31ff8e1687b9_880x678.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zrVX!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_424, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb6be8ad7-95ab-4223-b4ee-31ff8e1687b9_880x678.jpeg 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zrVX!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_848, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb6be8ad7-95ab-4223-b4ee-31ff8e1687b9_880x678.jpeg 848w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zrVX!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_1272, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb6be8ad7-95ab-4223-b4ee-31ff8e1687b9_880x678.jpeg 1272w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zrVX!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_1456, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb6be8ad7-95ab-4223-b4ee-31ff8e1687b9_880x678.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zrVX!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb6be8ad7-95ab-4223-b4ee-31ff8e1687b9_880x678.jpeg" width="880" height="678" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/b6be8ad7-95ab-4223-b4ee-31ff8e1687b9_880x678.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:678,&quot;width&quot;:880,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Confusion About Syria's Alawites - GeoCurrents&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Confusion About Syria's Alawites - GeoCurrents" title="Confusion About Syria's Alawites - GeoCurrents" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zrVX!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_424, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb6be8ad7-95ab-4223-b4ee-31ff8e1687b9_880x678.jpeg 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zrVX!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_848, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb6be8ad7-95ab-4223-b4ee-31ff8e1687b9_880x678.jpeg 848w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zrVX!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_1272, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb6be8ad7-95ab-4223-b4ee-31ff8e1687b9_880x678.jpeg 1272w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zrVX!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_1456, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb6be8ad7-95ab-4223-b4ee-31ff8e1687b9_880x678.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><strong>4.</strong> Alawite independence is not a new idea (credit to Anatoly Karlin <a href="/__u/substack.com/@akarlin/note/c-79569273">for bringing it up recently</a>). Latakia and Tartus make up a nice small coastal nation that would finally give this sect a national home (with local Christians joining). It might even become a decent place to live: it&#8217;s relatively developed, well-positioned, and has great weather and nature. Think Cyprus.</p><p>Alawites are now the backbone of the regime, because Assads are Alawites themselves. But if it&#8217;s Basharover, their special status would be gone. That would probably be dangerous for them.</p><p>Could Russia become a protector of the Alewite state? After all, Russia already has a naval base in Tartus. And while keeping all of Syria under control might be challenging, a relatively small coastal region might be an easier task. The objection is obvious: Russia is now stuck in Ukraine. But it does seem likely (if far from certain) that 2025 would be the last year of the war; <a href="https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/7344159">the </a><em><a href="https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/7344159">progrev</a></em><a href="https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/7344159"> appears to be in process</a>.</p><p>Maybe not. None of it is happening anyway.</p><p></p><p><strong>5.</strong> Most Syrians are Sunnis, but Assad is not. That means that Sunnis are likely to rebel, and minorities are mostly regime loyalists.</p><p>Assad has displaced a significant number of Sunni Arabs and replaced them with Shias and Alawites, most promioinently in Hama and Homs. The fog of war is thick, and there is no good data, but it seems like central Syria is no longer majority-Sunni.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eCXm!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6f033b0e-3d10-4781-9d06-aa1c644907ab_800x334.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eCXm!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_424, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6f033b0e-3d10-4781-9d06-aa1c644907ab_800x334.png 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eCXm!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_848, 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class="image-caption">Approach this data CRITICALLY.</figcaption></figure></div><p>(I rely on a series of Russian blog posts by Ivan Vladimirov: <a href="https://acer120.livejournal.com/130922.html">one</a>, <a href="https://acer120.livejournal.com/149462.html">two</a>, <a href="https://acer120.livejournal.com/204905.html">three</a>)</p><p>This is great for Assad regime&#8217;s stability: he&#8217;s engineering a more loyal population to counter-weight the Sunni opposition. Long-term, it&#8217;s probably a recipe for more ethnic cleansing and war.</p><p>If Homs and Hama fall, it&#8217;s probably the end for Assad. In that case Alawites should probably exit. Then they will be very lucky to avoid more blood.</p><p></p><p><strong>6.</strong> Secular pan-Arabism has failed, probably due to lack of secular Arabs.</p><p>Islamism might have the least impressive track record of all ideologies. It produced either mediocre dictatorships or cartoonishly evil terrorist states, and is yet to give the world anything of value. But it turned out to be incredibly successful at mobilizing young Arabs to participate in organized violence.</p><p>Assad rules over a fractured society. Divisions empower him, sectarian animosities keep his regime alive. If the Islamists win, they might actually unify the Syrian majority. But they will unify them around the causes of stoning unveiled women and slaughtering Christians.</p><p>Assad&#8217;s regime is not a good state. The opposition, if empowered, is probably going to be worse.</p><p></p><p><strong>7.</strong> Seriously, what were the English and the French even thinking when they designed this mess? That they would just rule over those Frankenstein territories indefinitely with whiteness and magic? And for what? Prestige?</p><p>Well, congratulations: Syria is no longer French, Iraq is no longer British, and the whole world is stuck dealing with endless desert wars because someone one hundred years ago didn&#8217;t think twice and didn&#8217;t look at a map a bit more. <em>You killed millions for nothing. Well done.</em></p><p>And it&#8217;s not getting better. We might dream of a rational rearrangement of borders and nations, but in the end the dumb scenario almost always wins, and the dumb scenario means bloodbath.</p><p>It was all preventable at some point by simply <em>not doing stupid things,</em> and now it is not. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PUD1!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5cb3f028-b83b-46e1-8d1c-bf5dd3150bed_820x608.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PUD1!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_424, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, 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Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Elon Musk, Considered Electorally]]></title><description><![CDATA[Elon is now a politician. Is there something he could do to make the world a better place?]]></description><link>https://shanggyangg.substack.com/p/elon-musk-considered-electorally</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://shanggyangg.substack.com/p/elon-musk-considered-electorally</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Shanggyangg]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 02 Oct 2024 20:28:54 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SeaG!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F722f5458-8cc0-4aaa-b9c5-d68c104972d6_1200x800.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not exactly a fan of Elon Musk. I used to dismiss his cringe &#8220;meme&#8221; posting as pandering to the plebeian audience, but now I think he&#8217;s a genuine boomer. Which isn&#8217;t the end of the world, but you can&#8217;t be a visionary and a boomer at the same time.</p><p>What&#8217;s much worse is that he&#8217;s a death supporter. It&#8217;s fine that most people are in peace with the idea of death, they don&#8217;t know any better. But Elon absolutely, extensively knows about RLE and is consciously against it. I think that&#8217;s discrediting.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9Fcg!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F989bbfcd-ecc2-4f7b-ba90-15c944e19532_759x231.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9Fcg!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_424, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F989bbfcd-ecc2-4f7b-ba90-15c944e19532_759x231.png 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9Fcg!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_848, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F989bbfcd-ecc2-4f7b-ba90-15c944e19532_759x231.png 848w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9Fcg!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_1272, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F989bbfcd-ecc2-4f7b-ba90-15c944e19532_759x231.png 1272w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9Fcg!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_1456, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F989bbfcd-ecc2-4f7b-ba90-15c944e19532_759x231.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9Fcg!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F989bbfcd-ecc2-4f7b-ba90-15c944e19532_759x231.png" width="759" height="231" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/989bbfcd-ecc2-4f7b-ba90-15c944e19532_759x231.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:231,&quot;width&quot;:759,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:46322,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9Fcg!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_424, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F989bbfcd-ecc2-4f7b-ba90-15c944e19532_759x231.png 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9Fcg!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_848, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F989bbfcd-ecc2-4f7b-ba90-15c944e19532_759x231.png 848w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9Fcg!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_1272, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F989bbfcd-ecc2-4f7b-ba90-15c944e19532_759x231.png 1272w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9Fcg!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_1456, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F989bbfcd-ecc2-4f7b-ba90-15c944e19532_759x231.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Despicable.</figcaption></figure></div><p>He hasn&#8217;t a Promethean spirit, &#8216;tis what I&#8217;m saying. He hasn&#8217;t a heart of a tiger.</p><p>But his rightward shift was a pivotal point in the emergence of the Tech Right. And for all his personal flaws, he&#8217;s a flagship of the only salvageable and relevant movement within modern Western conservatism. Therefore, he matters.</p><p>His alliance with the Right is absolutely situational; seemingly, it&#8217;s almost entirely a consequence of his eldest child transgendering out. In that sense, funnily enough, Xavier Musk/Vivian Wilson might be one of the most consequential people of our time just by existing. However, Elon is deep into it now, and all stars point to him getting an office.</p><p>Rumors are now that Elon is going to get a position in Trump&#8217;s cabinet. He might, and maybe he thinks he wants it. But I&#8217;m pretty sure he will hate it: it&#8217;s a nasty job with not that much power. What&#8217;s worse, he will have a boss. And Elon Musk is not the person who would enjoy being someone&#8217;s employee.</p><p>If Elon was born American, I&#8217;m positive he would run for president. Of course he would: he&#8217;s a narcissist, he dreams of being king. But he&#8217;s South African, so he can&#8217;t.</p><p>His second-best option is to run for Governor of Texas.</p><p>With 30 million people and an economy larger than Russia the largest right-wing state in the country, is quite a prize even for a man with Musk&#8217;s ambitions. And it&#8217;s already his home state of a sort: he has moved Tesla HQ to Texas in 2021, and SpaceX and Twitter/X in 2024.</p><p>It just makes sense. If he ever runs for anything, it&#8217;s to rule Texas.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SeaG!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F722f5458-8cc0-4aaa-b9c5-d68c104972d6_1200x800.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SeaG!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_424, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F722f5458-8cc0-4aaa-b9c5-d68c104972d6_1200x800.jpeg 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SeaG!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_848, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, 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Boomer. But it might work.</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>Can he do it?</strong></p><p>Probably, conditional on getting Trump to support his bid.</p><p>I think Musk would be a terrible campaigner. He&#8217;s autistic and doesn&#8217;t understand people well. But he is insanely wealthy and can outspend literally any person on earth on his campaign, he seems to have Trump&#8217;s favor, and Texas is still red enough for this to work.</p><p>Now, of course, Texas already has a Republican governor, Greg Abbott. I don&#8217;t think he would be happy to let anyone take his throne, and he isn&#8217;t terribly unpopular.</p><p>The best hope for Elon campaign would be to get Trump&#8217;s support and quietly push Abbott to step down and run for senator instead (as a senator, Abbott would replace John Cornyn who is old and irrelevant and should just retire). Senator isn&#8217;t too much of a downgrade compared to governor, it&#8217;s not the worst fate.</p><p>If Abbott doesn&#8217;t step down, Musk would have to primary him. Would that work? I have no idea. Abbott is a way better politician (Musk is not a politician at all, and probably would be very bad at being one). But Musk became popular among the MAGA base, and he has infinite money. So, maybe? Ultimately, it&#8217;s probably for Trump to decide.</p><p>Of cource, if a Dem candidate beats Elon, it&#8217;s over for his political career. I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s impossible, but it&#8217;s probably not terribly likely.</p><p>But whether Elon could win Texas is a technical question. The interesting one is why he should.</p><p><strong>What would that achieve?</strong></p><p>Elon Musk is not a real Republican. He voted for Joe Biden in 2020, and has been more or less a liberal for all his life. Then Xavier became Vivian, and he drifted hard to the right. But other than his deep, personal animosity for &#8220;the Woke&#8221;, he has little to do with &#8220;conservatism&#8221;. So you shouldn&#8217;t expect him to do much in terms of GOP&#8217;s most toxic issues: abortion restriction, Christian identity politics etc. Which is good, because those are looser issues. He would probably talk a lot about &#8220;fighting the Woke Mind Virus&#8221; and do something like ban drag queen story hour. But he&#8217;s not a social conservative at heart, so he wouldn&#8217;t go beyond that.</p><p>What you should expect from him is a lot of pro-capitalist policies, because he&#8217;s the richest man on earth who likes capitalism a lot. He&#8217;s also a tech billionaire who escaped California.</p><p>A tech cluster of a sort is already forming in Austin. What I would expect from a Musk governorship is to accelerate it.</p><p>Elon owns a lot of very big businesses headquartered in Texas. It is, therefore, in his interests to make Texas a super business-friendly place, even more than it is now. What would probably be even more important than policies is the symbolic meaning of the world&#8217;s largest tech billionaire becoming a head of a state that&#8217;s already been attracting tech businesses. It would solidify Austin as the Tech Right capital of the world.</p><p>With Elon in charge, I expect a new wave of startups and businesses moving from California to Texas. A large one, if Elon doesn&#8217;t fumble it.</p><p>As Peter Thiel noted in his latest Joe Rogan appearance, everyone has long been expecting California to collapse because it&#8217;s horrible, yet it never does because the network effect is too strong. Could Elon&#8217;s Austin become large enough to finally destroy California&#8217;s monopoly? Probably not, but it might, and I think it&#8217;s worth a shot.</p><p>If Texas becomes strong enough of a competitor, it might also push California to become less dysfunctional and adopt more market-friendly politics, and maybe even put their insane homeless drug addict criminal army in jail. In terms of weather California is probably the closest we have to a Paradise on Earth so if some competition might push its government to a saner direction, that would be a win for humanity.</p><p>Ultimately, all roads lead to a better future. Texas becoming a real global tech hub not restrained by a sclerotic Socialist government would be good for progress. US tech sector becoming less centralized would be good for progress. Silicon Valley facing real competition would be good for progress.</p><p>And even if Elon is a boomer, he is still a net positive for the human race. I hope he will still be one as a part of the American Right.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://shanggyangg.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Cultivated Wastelands! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Bukele Should Use His Prisoners To Pacify Haiti]]></title><description><![CDATA[Bukele wants to fix Haiti. He can kill two birds with one stone.]]></description><link>https://shanggyangg.substack.com/p/bukele-should-use-his-prisoners-to</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://shanggyangg.substack.com/p/bukele-should-use-his-prisoners-to</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Shanggyangg]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 10 Mar 2024 23:41:12 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sDF-!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4d49bfdb-3987-4565-a154-b6271eb9efac_746x718.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Haiti plunges into chaos for a thousandth or so time in its history, El Salvador&#8217;s Nayib Bukele steps in. With the UN approval and funding, he claims, he can fix Haiti, like he fixed his own country by crushing the gangs with an iron fist.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sDF-!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4d49bfdb-3987-4565-a154-b6271eb9efac_746x718.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sDF-!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_424, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4d49bfdb-3987-4565-a154-b6271eb9efac_746x718.png 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sDF-!, 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15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Now, <em>can</em> he fix Haiti? I&#8217;m not exactly optimistic. El Salvador, as bad as its gang issues were, is a much lighter patient than Haiti, which is more or less the closest we have to the Hell on Earth. Bukele crushed El Salvador&#8217;s gang with military force; Haiti doesn&#8217;t have a functioning state, let alone a functional country. On top of that, Haiti&#8217;s population is twice that of El Salvador. In all likelihood, it&#8217;s all a bluff: he says he can fix it because he knows he wouldn&#8217;t have to try.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://shanggyangg.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Cultivated Wastelands! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p>Still, on the off-chance the Pacification of Haiti by Bukele does happen, here&#8217;s a fun proposal:</p><p><strong>Bukele should use the gang members he locked up as foot soldiers for the operation. If they survive, they get to live as free men, but only on Haiti.</strong></p><p>There are 60 000 + gang members put in prison by Bukele. They will stay in prison until they die, which means 30-50 years for most of them &#8211; they are mostly young men.</p><p>This is not a particularly great situation (although much better than allowing them to roam free). It&#8217;s expensive, you need to sustain large prisons, you need a ton of guards. Worst of all, there is absolutely no guarantee that some future president wouldn&#8217;t set them free to please some Western liberals who are &#8220;concerned with the human rights violations&#8221;. &#8220;It&#8217;s been 15 years, they&#8217;ve learned their lesson, we&#8217;re a better society now who can treat them as human beings&#8221;. That would, of course, be an insane idea, but leaders make insane decisions all the time.</p><p>To exclude that scenario long-term, there must be no prisoners to release. Executing them all would be one solution, sure, but that&#8217;s probably too much even for El Salvador. Mass executions, even of violent criminals, are a bad look. Politically that&#8217;s off the table.</p><p>However, sending criminals to die in a war isn&#8217;t. Russia did that, most infamously with late Yevgeny Prigozhin&#8217;s Wagner group. They recruited prisoners with a simple deal: you fight for us, and if you survive long enough, you are a free man. Bakhmut was, to a large extent, taken by soldier-criminals. 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Biber, right, is an experienced commander. Yevgeny Prigozhin, center, is a warlord who hired them to take a fortified city, which they did.</figcaption></figure></div><p>The obvious problem with that approach was that some did survive Bakhmut, and are now free men. Which they shouldn&#8217;t be: they are violent criminals, murderers and rapists, who are dangerous for normal people. As a result, every couple days you read stories like &#8220;Former rapist who was sentenced to 10 years in prison but was pardoned by Putin after serving in the Wagner group for 6 months rapes three more women and murders one just a week after getting freedom&#8221;. This shouldn&#8217;t happen.</p><p>Now, was the short-term increase in crime in Russia because of the released criminals greater than the long-term decrease in crime because of all those who died in Ukraine instead of getting released after serving their full terms in 5-15 years? I don&#8217;t know; very likely not. Still, even if it wasn&#8217;t an awful trade-off, it&#8217;s not ideal.</p><p>Which is why Bukele should make the same deal with his own prisoners, but then just leave them in Haiti. Forever. If they ever step a foot on the soil of El Salvador, they get back to prison for the rest of their lives.</p><p>For the gangsters that&#8217;s a pretty good deal! Life in Bukele&#8217;s prison is miserable. It&#8217;s not like you&#8217;re safe either: gang-on-gang violence happens all the time, and Bukele stopped separating prisoners by gangs. Sure, you can die in a war, but people who value their lives a lot don&#8217;t join gangs. Even if you die, you die a war hero, fighting for the better future for Haiti, not as a despised petty thug. Your poor mother may even be proud.</p><p>And if you make it, you are a free man! Now, you&#8217;re a free man in Haiti, which isn&#8217;t great. But that&#8217;s still better than 50 more years in prison. After Haiti is pacified, your services will still be needed to keep the country from collapsing again. So you just become an elite policeman for the rest of your life. That&#8217;s a great life compared to what you had in prison, and probably even as a gang member before the crackdown.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XxnV!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F70e56db5-cb1a-456a-a0de-57560dfd658f_630x422.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XxnV!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_424, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F70e56db5-cb1a-456a-a0de-57560dfd658f_630x422.jpeg 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XxnV!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_848, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F70e56db5-cb1a-456a-a0de-57560dfd658f_630x422.jpeg 848w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XxnV!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_1272, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F70e56db5-cb1a-456a-a0de-57560dfd658f_630x422.jpeg 1272w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XxnV!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_1456, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F70e56db5-cb1a-456a-a0de-57560dfd658f_630x422.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XxnV!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F70e56db5-cb1a-456a-a0de-57560dfd658f_630x422.jpeg" width="630" height="422" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/70e56db5-cb1a-456a-a0de-57560dfd658f_630x422.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:422,&quot;width&quot;:630,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;PHOTOS: In El Salvador, a Gang Truce Can't Stop the Violence &#8211; Mother Jones&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="PHOTOS: In El Salvador, a Gang Truce Can't Stop the Violence &#8211; Mother Jones" title="PHOTOS: In El Salvador, a Gang Truce Can't Stop the Violence &#8211; Mother Jones" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XxnV!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_424, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F70e56db5-cb1a-456a-a0de-57560dfd658f_630x422.jpeg 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XxnV!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_848, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F70e56db5-cb1a-456a-a0de-57560dfd658f_630x422.jpeg 848w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XxnV!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_1272, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F70e56db5-cb1a-456a-a0de-57560dfd658f_630x422.jpeg 1272w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XxnV!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_1456, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F70e56db5-cb1a-456a-a0de-57560dfd658f_630x422.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Is Haiti that much worse?</figcaption></figure></div><p>El Salvador&#8217;s gang members are a pretty horrible human capital. El Salvador itself isn&#8217;t exactly impressive, and its criminals are the worst part of its society. Still, even they are better than the Haitians, which are probably one of the worst human capital in the world. So not only shipping them away to Haiti makes El Salvador a better place, <em>it also makes Haiti a better place.</em> They will become a natural local elite. They will have children with local women, who will also be better than average Haitian children. An entire new race will be born. They will probably pass down the gang face tattoos as a status symbol.</p><p>Now, some dozen thousands Latin Americans won&#8217;t make a huge impact on Haiti, population 11 million. But it would probably still be a change for the better. At the very least, it would be fun.</p><p>Can an El Salvadoran gangster army actually restore order in Haiti? I have no idea. Taking out the Haitian gangs shouldn&#8217;t be particularly difficult: El Salvadorans are smarter, and they will be better-armed. Establishing military control of Port-au-Prince would probably be pretty doable. All of Haiti might be a harder task. But I&#8217;m not a war guy, I&#8217;m just taking guesses; again, I actually have no idea.</p><p>After we conquer Haiti, what&#8217;s next? Well, that&#8217;s a whole another question. One thing that we did was <em>establishing the monopoly on power</em>. The local gangsters are out, we control the country now. If new gangsters arise, we crush them. That&#8217;s <em>a state</em>. Haiti&#8217;s government was supposed to do this, but it failed, so foreigners had to do their job instead.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Btzg!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F423077f1-4ed8-4373-b001-764609c04381_3000x1200.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Btzg!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_424, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F423077f1-4ed8-4373-b001-764609c04381_3000x1200.jpeg 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Btzg!, /__u/shanggyangg.substack.com/w_848, 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Without the permanent gang war, Haiti would be a nicer place to live. To ensure the gang war doesn&#8217;t break out again, the island now has a permanent population of armed El Salvadorans with face tattoos. But beyond establishing some most basic order, I don&#8217;t know if there is a way to reform the country.</p><p>Still, you can&#8217;t make Haiti worse. 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