<script data-pm-proxy="intercept"></script><?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:googleplay="http://www.google.com/schemas/play-podcasts/1.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[Foaia de observație]]></title><description><![CDATA[Despre drepturile tale în sistemul public de sănătate. 

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A &#238;nceput ca o incursiune psiho-antropologic&#259; asupra motivelor pentru care noi, rom&#226;nii, (ne) ascundem c&#226;nd avem o boal&#259;, dar, av&#226;nd &#238;n vedere c&#259; eu am o afec&#539;iune cronic&#259; ce mi-a schimbat via&#539;a, nu am putut s&#259; nu &#238;mi explorez propria-mi realitate. </p><div class="pullquote"><p>&#8222;Din experien&#539;a mea, pot spune c&#259; o boal&#259; cronic&#259; vine cu un paradox: vrei s&#259; r&#259;m&#226;n&#259; ascuns&#259;, &#537;i &#238;n acela&#537;i timp s&#259; fie recunoscut&#259;, v&#259;zut&#259;. Ce &#537;i c&#226;t &#238;mp&#259;rt&#259;&#537;e&#537;ti devine o alegere pe care trebuie s&#259; o faci des, uneori de mai multe ori pe zi. Unora le spui realit&#259;&#539;ile concrete ale vie&#539;ii tale (ce te doare, cum te sim&#539;i), dar nu le vorbe&#537;ti despre modul profund &#238;n care &#539;i s-a schimbat via&#539;a.&#8221; (Articol <em>ap&#259;rut &#238;n nr. 7 al revistei Scena9 &#537;i, acum, <a href="https://www.scena9.ro/article/boli-secret-sanatate-revista-print-nr-7">online</a>.)</em></p></div><h2>5 lucruri pe care nu le &#537;tiai despre cardul european de s&#259;n&#259;tate</h2><p>&#206;n primul r&#226;nd, e un card fizic, pe care trebuie s&#259; &#238;l ceri tu, nu &#238;l ai <em>by default</em>. </p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/CAS.Maramures/posts/pfbid0rZZgD7HQWu8z5EXupy8Dpv8UDQo8R4RV4MNpcBzqGCAiSxng9qxd5kDo1ufUhgujl">S-a reluat tip&#259;rirea lui</a>, dup&#259; ce, din martie &#238;ncoace, nu s-a mai emis pentru c&#259; expirase contractul cu firma care &#238;l producea. &#206;n schimb, Casa &#238;&#539;i d&#259;dea un Certificat Provizoriu, care avea aceea&#537;i valabilitate &#537;i acoperire.</p><p>IMPORTANT: &#537;tiu c&#259; exist&#259; confuzie &#537;i am aflat de un medic de familie care &#537;i-a informat pacien&#539;ii c&#259; nici cardul, nici acest certificat nu se mai emit &#537;i c&#259;, dac&#259; ajungi la urgen&#539;e c&#226;t timp e&#537;ti &#238;ntr-o &#539;ar&#259; UE, e suficient s&#259; spui c&#259; e&#537;ti din Rom&#226;nia &#537;i s&#259;-&#539;i dai CNP-ul. Fals!</p><h3><strong>Cine are dreptul la un card european de s&#259;n&#259;tate?</strong></h3><p>Toate persoanele care au statutul de asigurat &#238;n Rom&#226;nia, adic&#259;: copii p&#226;n&#259; la 18 ani, tineri p&#226;n&#259; la 26 dac&#259; sunt studen&#539;i, salaria&#539;ii, pensionarii, persoanele cu handicap, cele care depun anual Declara&#539;ia Unic&#259; (prin care pl&#259;tesc contribu&#539;ii la s&#259;n&#259;tate &#8211; CASS), gravidele &#537;i l&#259;uzele, persoanele cu afec&#539;iuni oncologice.</p><p><span>&#536;omerii, cei care primesc ajutor social, veteranii &#537;i cei &#238;n concediu de cre&#537;tere a copilului pl&#259;tesc &#537;i ei CASS de anul trecut, a&#537;a c&#259; sunt asigura&#539;i &#537;i pot cere cardul.</span></p><p><span>Nu au dreptul la el cei care nu sunt asigura&#539;i la s&#259;n&#259;tate &#238;n Rom&#226;nia.</span></p><p><strong>ATEN&#538;IE: </strong>bolnavii cronici din Programele Na&#539;ionale de S&#259;n&#259;tate nu mai sunt asigura&#539;i automat, ca p&#226;n&#259; la finalul anului trecut. Sunt asigura&#539;i doar <span>cei care se &#238;ncadreaz&#259; </span><em><span>&#536;I</span></em><span> &#238;n categoriile de mai sus sau care pl&#259;tesc voluntar CASS.</span></p><div class="captioned-button-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/p/reteta-electronica-primesc-dar-sa?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="CaptionedButtonToDOM"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Sigur &#537;tii pe cineva c&#259;ruia i-ar folosi aceste informa&#539;ii. Trimite-i articolul.</p></div><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/p/reteta-electronica-primesc-dar-sa?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/reteta-electronica-primesc-dar-sa?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p></div><p></p><h3><strong>Cum ob&#539;in cardul european de s&#259;n&#259;tate?</strong></h3><p>Depui o cerere <a href="https://www.cardeuropean.ro/login">pe acest portal</a> &#537;i &#238;ncarci buletinul (sau certificatul de na&#537;tere pentru copiii sub 14 ani) &#537;i documentul care arat&#259; statutul de asigurat, cum ar fi: adeverin&#539;&#259; de elev/student, adeverin&#539;&#259; de salariat, cupon de pensie, ultima Declara&#539;ie Unic&#259; depus&#259;.</p><p>Ar trebui s&#259; prime&#537;ti pe mail certificatul &#238;nlocuitor sau prin po&#537;t&#259; cardul fizic &#238;n 7 zile dup&#259; ce ai depus. Totu&#537;i, cei de la Casa de S&#259;n&#259;tate Bucure&#537;ti mi-au spus c&#259; sunt 7 zile de c&#226;nd &#238;ncep ei s&#259; proceseze cererea, nu de c&#226;nd ai depus tu, &#537;i c&#259; ar trebui s&#259; prime&#537;ti un mail c&#226;nd &#238;ncep procesarea. Cert e c&#259; va dura mai mult &#238;n aceast&#259; perioad&#259;, pentru c&#259; s-au adunat multe cereri.</p><p>Cardul e gratuit.</p><p><em>Eu am depus cererea pe 28 iulie, iar pe 17 august am primit un mail cu Certificatul Provizoriu &#537;i mesajul c&#259; cererea a fost aprobat&#259; &#537;i voi primi cardul &#238;n 7 zile lucr&#259;toare.</em></p><h3><strong>Ce acoper&#259;?</strong></h3><p><strong>Doar tratament de urgen&#539;&#259;</strong>, &#238;ntr-una din &#539;&#259;rile UE, &#238;n Elve&#539;ia, Regatul Unit sau Spa&#539;iul Economic European (Norvegia, Islanda, Liechtenstein), &#537;i doar &#238;n spitalele publice sau &#238;n cele private care au contract cu sistemul public (a&#537;a cum avem &#537;i noi unele).</p><p><strong><span>Nu acoper&#259; opera&#539;iuni de salvare, tratament planificat </span></strong><span>(ex: m&#259; duc s&#259; m&#259; operez de hernie) </span><strong><span>sau pentru boli cronice pre-existente</span></strong><span>.</span></p><p><strong><span>Nu acoper&#259; transportul &#238;napoi &#238;n &#539;ar&#259;</span></strong><span>,</span> dac&#259; e&#537;ti grav bolnav sau nu te po&#539;i deplasa pe cont propriu, &#537;i nici repatrierea, &#238;n cazul unui deces. De aceea, cel mai bine e s&#259; &#238;&#539;i faci &#537;i o asigurare medical&#259; de c&#259;l&#259;torie c&#226;nd pleci din &#539;ar&#259;.</p><p><strong>ATEN&#538;IE:</strong></p><ul><li><p><span>Po&#539;i folosi cardul dac&#259; stai &#238;ntr-una dintre aceste &#539;&#259;ri </span><strong><span>cel mult &#537;ase luni</span></strong><span>, el nu e o asigurare pe termen lung;</span></p></li><li><p>Nu po&#539;i folosi cardul &#238;n Rom&#226;nia.</p></li></ul><h3><strong>Cum &#238;l folosesc?</strong></h3><ol><li><p>&#206;n primul r&#226;nd, c&#226;t e&#537;ti &#238;n str&#259;in&#259;tate, trebuie s&#259; ai mereu cardul la tine.</p><p>Fiecare membru al familiei trebuie s&#259; aib&#259; cardul propriu (ex: nu e suficient s&#259; aib&#259; doar p&#259;rintele, trebuie s&#259; aib&#259; &#537;i copilul).</p></li><li><p>Dac&#259; ajungi la urgen&#539;&#259; sau e&#537;ti luat cu ambulan&#539;a, trebuie s&#259; ar&#259;&#539;i acest card. Plata serviciilor medicale se va face apoi &#238;ntre Casa de S&#259;n&#259;tate din Rom&#226;nia &#537;i autorit&#259;&#539;ile din &#539;ara respectiv&#259;, DAR <span>e posibil s&#259; fie nevoie de o co-plat&#259; pentru unele servicii, &#238;n unele &#539;&#259;ri, chiar dac&#259; la noi acel serviciu ar fi gratuit</span>. G&#259;se&#537;ti <a href="https://employment-social-affairs.ec.europa.eu/policies-and-activities/moving-working-europe/eu-social-security-coordination/european-health-insurance-card/how-use-card_en?prefLang=ro">aici detalii pentru fiecare &#539;ar&#259;</a>.</p><p>Dac&#259; pleci &#537;i nu ai cerut &#238;nainte cardul, vei pl&#259;ti serviciile medicale la nivelul &#539;&#259;rii respective, dar la &#238;ntoarcere vei fi rambursat doar la nivelul Rom&#226;niei: &#8222;<span>Dac&#259; acolo cost&#259; 1.000 de euro, iar aici cost&#259; doar 500 de lei&#8221;, </span><a href="https://www.digi24.ro/stiri/economie/ce-se-intampla-cu-cardurile-europene-de-sanatate-si-ce-solutii-au-romanii-care-pleaca-in-concediu-in-strainatate-3859963"><span>a explicat directorul CJAS Vaslui</span></a><span>, &#8222;ve&#539;i pl&#259;ti 1.000 de euro, dar ve&#539;i primi doar suma care se deconteaz&#259; &#238;n Rom&#226;nia. De aceea este foarte important s&#259; ave&#539;i acest card european la dumneavoastr&#259;&#8221;.</span></p></li><li><p><span>Dac&#259; nu ai cardul la tine sau l-ai pierdut, trebuie s&#259; contactezi Casa Jude&#539;ean&#259; de S&#259;n&#259;tate de care apar&#539;ii &#537;i &#238;&#539;i va trimite &#238;n 24 de ore Certificatul Provizoriu pe mail.</span></p><p><span>Dac&#259; &#539;i-ai pierdut statutul de asigurat &#238;n Rom&#226;nia c&#226;t timp e&#537;ti &#238;n afara &#539;&#259;rii, &#537;i   folose&#537;ti cardul european, statul rom&#226;n va recupera banii de la tine.</span></p></li></ol><h3><strong>C&#226;t e valabil?</strong></h3><ul><li><p><span>Pentru copii: din momentul emiterii, p&#226;n&#259; la 18 ani.</span></p></li><li><p><span>Pentru adul&#539;i p&#226;n&#259; la 65 de ani: 2 ani.</span></p></li><li><p><span>Pentru cei de peste 65 de ani: 10 ani.</span></p></li></ul><p><strong><span>ATEN&#538;IE:</span></strong></p><ul><li><p><span>P&#226;n&#259; toamna trecut&#259;, valabilitatea era de 2 ani pentru toat&#259; lumea, dar legea s-a schimbat (vezi Art, I, </span><a href="https://legislatie.just.ro/Public/DetaliiDocumentAfis/303706">punctul 22 de aici</a><span>), chiar dac&#259; pe site-ul oficial al cardului european de s&#259;n&#259;tate scrie &#238;n continuare 2 ani ca regul&#259; general&#259;.</span></p></li><li><p><span>Cardurile deja emise nu se prelungesc automat, deci, dac&#259; fiul t&#259;u are 14 ani, de exemplu, &#537;i &#238;i expir&#259; cardul, trebuie s&#259;-l re&#238;nnoiasc&#259; &#537;i de abia acela va fi valabil p&#226;n&#259; la 18 ani.</span></p></li></ul><h3><strong>Ce faci dac&#259; nu e&#537;ti asigurat &#238;n Rom&#226;nia?</strong></h3><p>Nu po&#539;i aplica pentru cardul european de s&#259;n&#259;tate.</p><p>Dac&#259; ai nevoie de tratament pentru salvarea vie&#539;ii (ex: accident, infarct), &#238;l vei primi, dar va trebui s&#259; &#238;l pl&#259;te&#537;ti &#8211; fie tu, fie prin asigurarea de c&#259;l&#259;torie, dac&#259; ai una.</p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p><strong>Recapitulare </strong>&#8211;<strong> cele 5 lucruri pe care cel mai probabil nu le &#537;tiai despre cardul european de s&#259;n&#259;tate:</strong></p><ol><li><p>Dac&#259; <em>nu</em> e&#537;ti asigurat la s&#259;n&#259;tate &#238;n Rom&#226;nia, nu ai dreptul la un astfel de card.</p></li><li><p>Nu acoper&#259; transportul &#238;napoi &#238;n &#539;ar&#259; sau repatrierea (nici eu nu &#537;tiam asta).</p></li><li><p>&#206;l po&#539;i folosi doar dac&#259; stai cel mult &#537;ase luni &#238;ntr-o anumit&#259; &#539;ar&#259;.</p></li><li><p>Dac&#259; e&#537;ti plecat &#537;i ai pierdut cardul, Casa Jude&#539;ean&#259; de S&#259;n&#259;tate &#238;&#539;i trimite un certificat &#238;nlocuitor pe mail, &#238;n 24 de ore. </p></li><li><p>Cardurile pentru copii sunt valabile acum 2 ani &#537;i pentru cei de peste 65 de ani &#8211; 10 ani. </p></li></ol></div><div><hr></div><h2><strong>Re&#539;eta pentru antibiotic &#8211; s&#259; fie electronic&#259;, dar &#238;n format fizic</strong></h2><p><em>Asta e o situa&#539;ie prin care a trecut cineva foarte apropiat &#537;i am crezut c&#259; farmacia a f&#259;cut abuz, a&#537;a c&#259; am vrut s&#259; m&#259; l&#259;muresc. </em></p><p>Dac&#259; ai cump&#259;rat antibiotic &#238;n ultimii doi ani, &#537;tii c&#259; regulile s-au &#238;n&#259;sprit, &#537;i asta pentru c&#259;:</p><ol><li><p> suntem campioni la automedica&#539;ie &#537;i lu&#259;m antibiotic pentru orice, &#238;n mod gre&#537;it (&#238;n 2021 am fost pe primul loc la consum &#238;n UE) &#537;i </p></li><li><p>asta ne cre&#537;te rezisten&#539;a la antibiotic, ceea ce &#238;nseamn&#259; c&#259; infec&#539;iile devin tot mai greu sau chiar imposibil de tratat &#8211; pur &#537;i simplu antibioticul nu va mai func&#539;iona &#238;n situa&#539;ii care anterior nu fuseser&#259; problematice, iar asta este o amenin&#539;are la adresa s&#259;n&#259;t&#259;&#539;ii globale (ni&#537;te date foarte recente de la OMS <a href="https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/antimicrobial-resistance">g&#259;se&#537;ti aici)</a>.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CikQ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d49f3a7-32ca-4ff4-8829-bf341b134952_3738x3738.heic" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CikQ!, /__u/sorana.substack.com/w_424, /__u/sorana.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/sorana.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/sorana.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/sorana.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d49f3a7-32ca-4ff4-8829-bf341b134952_3738x3738.heic 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17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Am f&#259;cut poza asta la un muzeu din Aarhus, Danemarca: <em><a href="https://www.aros.dk/en/aros-collection/as-seen-below-the-dome-a-skyspace-by-james-turrell/">As Seen Below</a></em>, o instala&#539;ie &#238;ntr-un dom imens, cu acces la cerul liber, care reproduce at&#226;t secven&#539;e naturale de lumin&#259;, c&#226;t &#537;i jocuri imaginare de culoare. M-a f&#259;cut s&#259; m&#259; g&#226;ndesc la c&#226;t de &#238;ngust vedem, uneori, lucrurile - &#238;n via&#539;&#259;, &#537;i &#238;n sistemul medical deopotriv&#259;.</figcaption></figure></div><p></p></li></ol><p><strong><a href="https://www.anm.ro/_/ORDINE/Ordin%2063-2024.pdf">Iat&#259; ce s-a schimbat</a></strong><span> </span>&#238;n ianuarie 2024 pentru antibiotice &#537;i antifungice (&#238;mpotriva ciupercilor):</p><ul><li><p><strong>Doar medicii care lucreaz&#259; &#238;ntr-o unitate medical&#259; mai pot da re&#539;ete de antibiotic,</strong> pentru c&#259; re&#539;eta (indiferent dac&#259; e simpl&#259; sau compensat&#259;) trebuie s&#259; includ&#259; ni&#537;te elemente obligatorii, printre care: serie &#537;i num&#259;r (care sunt unice pentru fiecare unitate), numele &#537;i adresa unit&#259;&#539;ii medicale, codul de diagnostic. Concret, un medic pensionar sau un medic care nu lucreaz&#259; &#238;ntr-un spital/clinic&#259; nu mai poate prescrie antibiotic pe re&#539;et&#259; simpl&#259;, chiar dac&#259; au drept de paraf&#259;.</p></li><li><p><strong>Trebuie s&#259; mergi cu re&#539;eta fizic&#259; &#238;n farmacie &#537;i ea va r&#259;m&#226;ne acolo</strong>, iar tu vei ap&#259;rea &#238;n SIUI (sistemul informatic al asigur&#259;rilor de s&#259;n&#259;tate) c&#259; &#539;i-ai ridicat medica&#539;ia, ca s&#259; nu te mai po&#539;i duce &#238;n alt&#259; farmacie s-o iei. Dac&#259; &#238;nainte mai mergea s&#259; ar&#259;&#539;i pe telefon o re&#539;et&#259; scris&#259; de m&#226;n&#259;, chiar la mai multe farmacii, acum nu se mai poate.</p></li><li><p><strong>Dac&#259; nu ai ajuns &#238;nc&#259; la medic &#537;i ai o infec&#539;ie, farmaci&#537;tii pot (dar nu sunt obliga&#539;i) s&#259; &#238;&#539;i dea antibiotic f&#259;r&#259; re&#539;et&#259; doar pentru 48 de ore</strong>, &#238;n ideea c&#259; apoi ajungi la doctor. Nu pot s&#259; dea <em>orice</em> antibiotic, ci dintr-o list&#259; mai restr&#226;ns&#259; dec&#226;t medicii, iar tu trebuie s&#259; dai o declara&#539;ie scris&#259;, pe proprie r&#259;spundere, c&#259; nu ai mai luat din alt&#259; parte aceast&#259; doz&#259; de urgen&#539;&#259; de 48 de ore &#8211; <a href="https://www.anm.ro/_/ORDINE/Ordin%2063-2024.pdf">vezi aici mai multe detalii</a>. </p></li><li><p>&#536;i acum &#8222;rom&#226;nismul&#8221; situa&#539;iei: <strong>dac&#259; faci o consulta&#539;ie online (pe care o pot acorda at&#226;t medicii de familie &#537;i cei din spitale, &#238;n anumite cazuri, c&#226;t &#537;i medicii din re&#539;elele private la care mul&#539;i dintre voi ave&#539;i abonament) &#537;i prime&#537;ti o re&#539;et&#259; e-lec-tro-ni-c&#259; pentru antibiotic, farmacia n-o va recunoa&#537;te</strong>. Chiar dac&#259; e un .pdf cu toate elementele acelea obligatorii &#537;i cu paraf&#259;, chiar dac&#259; mai &#537;i scrie &#8222;teleconsulta&#539;ie&#8221; pe ea, farmacia &#238;&#539;i va cere re&#539;eta &#238;n original, fizic&#259;, ca s-o re&#539;in&#259;, pe motiv c&#259; po&#539;i merge la 10 farmacii cu .pdf-ul acela &#537;i sistemul electronic n-are cum s&#259; te &#238;nregistreze c&#259; ai luat deja medicamentele. </p><p>Sistemul &#238;nregistreaz&#259; doar re&#539;etele gratuite/compensate (acelea cu un cod QR pe ele) &#537;i pe cele simple &#238;n format fizic (adic&#259; ne-compensate), care r&#259;m&#226;n la farmacie.</p></li></ul><blockquote><p>Da, ai citit corect: tr&#259;ie&#537;ti undeva la &#539;ar&#259; sau e&#537;ti &#238;n vacan&#539;&#259;, faci o infec&#539;ie urinar&#259;, faci o consulta&#539;ie online cu un medic de la re&#539;eaua privat&#259;, &#238;&#539;i d&#259; re&#539;eta, dar degeaba. Trebuie s&#259; mergi la Bucure&#537;ti sau unde e doctorul, ca s&#259; &#539;i-o dea pe h&#226;rtie.</p><p>Da, o lege permite s&#259; dai re&#539;ete, bilete de trimitere sau concedii medicale &#238;n regim de telemedicin&#259; (<a href="https://legislatie.just.ro/public/DetaliiDocument/259367">vezi art. 8 (1) de aici</a>), m&#259;car at&#226;ta lucru bun ne-a adus pandemia, &#537;i tot ea, la art. 8 (2), spune c&#259; re&#539;eta va fi eliberat&#259; fie electronic, fie &#238;n format fizic &#8222;c&#226;nd transmiterea electronic&#259; nu este posibil&#259;/suficient&#259;&#8221; &#8211; iar antibioticul, interpretez eu &#537;i un avocat cu care m-am consultat, s-ar &#238;ncadra aici, la &#8222;nu e suficient&#259;&#8221; chiar dac&#259; o printezi, tocmai pentru c&#259; re&#539;eta o-ri-gi-na-l&#259; <em>nu poate r&#259;m&#226;ne</em> &#238;n farmacie. </p><p>Din lege nu rezult&#259; clar c&#259; doar .pdf-ul pe telefon e suficient, a&#537;a c&#259; farmaciile &#238;l refuz&#259;. </p><p>Am &#238;ntrebat <span>dou&#259;</span> mari re&#539;ele private: una interpreteaz&#259; c&#259;, &#238;n lipsa cerin&#539;ei explicite ca re&#539;eta de antibiotic s&#259; fie fizic&#259;, ar trebui s&#259; fie valabil &#537;i .pdf-ul, iar cealalt&#259; mi-a confimat c&#259; .pdf-ul nu e de ajuns, chiar dac&#259; medicii lor &#238;l mai prescriu &#238;n consulta&#539;ii online.</p><p>A&#537;adar, &#238;n loc s&#259; adapt&#259;m sistemul informatic ca s&#259; acopere toate situa&#539;iile pe care legea le permite &#238;n secolul XXI &#537;i ca s&#259; ajut&#259;m pacientul, noi interpret&#259;m restrictiv &#537;i punitiv: medicul prescrie, pentru c&#259; poate, farmacia refuz&#259;, pentru c&#259; poate, iar pacientul e, ca de obicei, la mijloc, de izbeli&#537;te. </p></blockquote><p><strong>IMPORTANT:</strong></p><ul><li><p><span>R</span>estric&#539;ia asta e valabil&#259; doar pentru antibiotice &#537;i doar pentru re&#539;etele simple (adic&#259; cele pentru care pl&#259;te&#537;ti integral) emise &#238;ntr-o consulta&#539;ie online. Re&#539;etele compensate emise &#238;ntr-o consulta&#539;ie online sunt primite de farmacii. </p></li><li><p><span>O re&#539;et&#259; .pdf emis&#259; &#238;ntr-o consulta&#539;ie online pentru alte medicamente ar trebui s&#259; fie &#238;n regul&#259;.</span></p></li><li><p><span>Doar medicamentele stupefiante &#537;i psihotrope (pe re&#539;ete verzi) nu se pot prescrie deloc &#238;n teleconsulta&#539;ie.</span></p></li></ul><p>Care e solu&#539;ia &#537;i de ce exist&#259; contradic&#539;ia asta stupid&#259; am &#238;ntrebat &#537;i la Cas&#259; (au spus c&#259; nu &#539;ine de ei, pentru c&#259; nu e vorba de re&#539;ete emise &#238;n sistemul informatic al Casei), iar de la Ministerul S&#259;n&#259;t&#259;&#539;ii, cel care reglementeaz&#259; prescrierea antibioticelor, a&#537;tept r&#259;spuns din 21 iulie.</p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p><strong>Concluzia:</strong> c&#226;nd faci o consulta&#539;ie online &#537;i prime&#537;ti antibiotic pe o re&#539;et&#259; simpl&#259;, insist&#259; s&#259; &#238;&#539;i dea &#537;i re&#539;eta fizic&#259; &#537;i f&#259; cumva s&#259; o iei (nu neap&#259;rat personal, o poate ridica &#537;i altcineva). Sau mergi direct la un cabinet fizic.</p></div><div class="captioned-button-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/p/reteta-electronica-primesc-dar-sa?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="CaptionedButtonToDOM"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Dac&#259; edi&#539;ia asta te-a f&#259;cut s&#259; afli ceva nou sau &#539;i-a r&#259;spuns la vreo &#238;ntrebare, sus&#539;ine misiunea Foii de observa&#539;ie cu un abonament pl&#259;tit. A&#537;a, m&#259; aju&#539;i s&#259; documentez &#238;n continuare astfel de subiecte &#537;i s&#259; p&#259;strez accesul gratuit la informa&#539;ii esen&#539;iale.</p></div><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/p/reteta-electronica-primesc-dar-sa?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/reteta-electronica-primesc-dar-sa?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p></div><div><hr></div><h2>Servicii psihologice pentru pacien&#539;ii oncologici</h2><p>Dac&#259; e&#537;ti asigurat la s&#259;n&#259;tate, ai dreptul &#537;i la consiliere psihologic&#259; sau psihoterapie (<a href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/diferenta-dintre-un-psiholog-si-un">am explicat aici diferen&#539;a dintre ele</a>). Procesul e complicat (&#537;i pentru psiholog, dar mai ale pentru pacient &#8211; <a href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/ce-s-a-schimbat-daca-vrei-sa-mergi?r=8k6pm&amp;utm_campaign=post&amp;utm_medium=web">am scris aici ce trebuie s&#259; faci</a>), dar nu imposibil.</p><p>Din p&#259;cate, nu exist&#259; nici o list&#259; oficial&#259; &#537;i transparent&#259; a psihologilor &#238;n contract cu Casa. At&#226;t CNAS, c&#226;t &#537;i Colegiul Psihologilor au g&#259;sit motive (scuze) ca s&#259; n-o fac&#259;, spun&#226;nd c&#259; nu e responsabilitatea lor. </p><blockquote><p>Totu&#537;i, anul trecut <a href="https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/4ld05mtw065wrrgpdzedl/Psihologi-n-contract-cu-Casa_Bucure-ti_31-ian-2025.xlsx?rlkey=sw5axpil0n6vj2n191v6ainnb&amp;st=4mjgfx7d&amp;dl=0">am ob&#539;inut o astfel de list&#259;</a> &#537;i sunt &#537;anse ca multe nume de aici s&#259; fie &#238;nc&#259; valabile, trebuie s&#259; verifici.</p></blockquote><p>O categorie aparte sunt pacien&#539;ii cu boli oncologice, pentru care prevederile sunt un pic mai clare &#8211; de exemplu, c&#259; au dreptul la 4 &#537;edin&#539;e pe lun&#259;, ceea ce nu e reglementat pentru al&#539;i bolnavi &#8211; &#537;i c&#259; de la 1 iulie 2026, deci de luna trecut&#259;, doar psihologii cu formare &#238;n psiho-oncologie mai pot acorda aceste servicii &#238;n contract cu Casa.</p><p>Psiho-oncologia e o formare suplimentar&#259; pe l&#226;ng&#259; cea de baz&#259;, de psiholog clinician, &#537;i e important&#259; pentru c&#259; pacien&#539;ii cu cancer au ni&#537;te nevoi particulare. Practic, statul a vrut s&#259; se asigure astfel c&#259; &#537;edin&#539;ele de consiliere psihologic&#259; pe care le deconteaz&#259; pentru persoanele cu cancer sunt sigure &#537;i de o calitate mai bun&#259; (<a href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/de-ce-avem-nevoie-de-psiho-oncologi">am scris mai multe aici</a>).</p><p>Obliga&#539;ia asta cu formarea &#238;n psiho-oncologie ar fi trebuit s&#259; intre &#238;n vigoare acum un an, dar, pentru c&#259; erau prea pu&#539;ini speciali&#537;ti, a fost am&#226;nat&#259; pentru 2026, timp &#238;n care: </p><ol><li><p>Colegiul Psihologilor &#537;i Ministerul S&#259;n&#259;t&#259;&#539;ii ar fi trebuit s&#259; fac&#259; o program&#259; de formare de 1 an, cu practic&#259; obligatorie &#238;n spital, adic&#259; standardul interna&#539;ional, program&#259; pe care firmele &#537;i asocia&#539;iile care fac cursuri acreditate s&#259; o implementeze.</p></li><li><p>P&#226;n&#259; atunci, dac&#259; mai voiau s&#259; lucreze cu pacien&#539;i cu cancer <em>&#238;n contract cu Casa</em>, psihologii ar fi trebuit s&#259; urmeze cursurile existente acreditate, de patru luni (da, legal, acum &#238;n Rom&#226;nia o formare de 8 weekend-uri pe Zoom echivaleaz&#259; cu una de 1 an &#537;i stagiu la patul bolnavului, iar pre&#537;edintelui Colegiului Psihologilor asta <a href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/de-ce-avem-nevoie-de-psiho-oncologi">nu i se pare ciudat</a>).</p></li></ol><p>Luna trecut&#259;, mi-am amintit de acel deadline de 1 iulie &#537;i am vrut s&#259; verific dac&#259; aceast&#259; prevedere a intrat &#238;n vigoare. Ce am aflat:</p><ol><li><p>Ministerul S&#259;n&#259;t&#259;&#539;ii a constituit acea comisie responsabil&#259; cu programa de formare de abia pe <strong>29 decembrie 2025, de&#537;i obliga&#539;ia exist&#259; din 2023, &#238;ns&#259; nici Ordinul de Ministru, nici componen&#539;a comisiei nu sunt publice. </strong>La acest moment, MS mi-a spus c&#259; programa e gata, &#238;n proces de analiz&#259; &#537;i aprobare, dar nu &#537;i c&#226;t va mai dura &#537;i nici cine o aprob&#259;.</p><p>Consecin&#539;a: o s&#259; treac&#259; luni de zile, dac&#259; nu mai mult, ca s&#259; existe un astfel de program de 12 luni, deci, probabil, doi ani cu totul, ca s&#259; avem primii speciali&#537;ti &#238;n psiho-oncologie forma&#539;i &#238;n Rom&#226;nia la ni&#537;te standarde care &#238;n str&#259;in&#259;tate sunt la ordinea zilei.</p></li><li><p>P&#226;n&#259; atunci, la 1 iulie 2026, deci obligatoriu cu formarea &#238;n psiho-oncologie existent&#259;, lucreaz&#259; &#238;n contract cu Casa 53 de psihologi, conform datelor transmise de CNAS. De la &#238;nceputul anului &#537;i p&#226;n&#259; acum au fost 55, deci deducem c&#259; aproape to&#539;i care au ales s&#259; lucreze cu pacien&#539;i cu cancer au &#537;i ob&#539;inut certificarea, a&#537;a cum este ea acum (sigur, e posibil &#537;i ca unii &#8222;vechi&#8221; s&#259; fi ie&#537;it de pe list&#259; &#537;i al&#539;ii noi s&#259; fi intrat).</p></li><li><p>DOAR C&#258; datele pe care le-am primit de la CNAS nu par a fi corecte: 23 de jude&#539;e apar ca neav&#226;nd niciun psiho-oncolog &#238;n contract cu Casa, &#238;n condi&#539;iile &#238;n care eu &#537;tiu cel pu&#539;in unul &#238;ntr-un astfel de jude&#539;, care lucreaz&#259; cu Casa &#537;i mi-a ar&#259;tat documente. &#536;i e imposibil ca jude&#539;e precum Cluj, centru regional de oncologie, s&#259; aib&#259; unul singur sau Sibiu s&#259; nu aib&#259; niciunul. (Am comunicat asta la CNAS &#537;i mi-au spus c&#259; probabil e o gre&#537;eal&#259; undeva &#537;i c&#259; vor verifica. Am cerut acelea&#537;i date &#537;i la Colegiul Psihologilor, pe 20 iulie: primul r&#259;spuns a fost c&#259; persoana care r&#259;spunde la email e &#238;n concediu, apoi mi-au cerut cererea &#537;tampilat&#259; &#537;i cu documente justificative, apoi nimic.)</p></li><li><p>Tot CNAS mi-a transmis c&#259; anul trecut 9.700 de pacien&#539;i au primit servicii de psiho-oncologie decontate &#537;i &#238;nc&#259; 5.700 anul acesta. Dar, din nou, apar jude&#539;e cu 0 pacien&#539;i, inclusiv jude&#539;ul pentru care am v&#259;zut documente (&#537;i care a avut 200 de pacien&#539;i anul trecut).</p></li><li><p>E adev&#259;rat, nu &#537;tim de c&#226;&#539;i psiho-oncologi ar avea nevoie &#539;ara, dar &#537;tim c&#259;:</p></li></ol><ul><li><p><span>avem aprox. 100.000 de persoane nou-diagnosticate cu cancer/ an;</span></p></li><li><p><span>aprox. 300.000 care tr&#259;iesc cu un diagnostic de cancer primit &#238;n ultimii 5 ani;</span></p></li><li><p><span>p&#226;n&#259; &#238;n 2040, nr. celor nou-diagnostica&#539;i va cre&#537;te cu 8%;</span></p></li><li><p><span>p&#226;n&#259; &#238;n 2050, speran&#539;a de via&#539;&#259; a rom&#226;nilor va sc&#259;dea cu 1,7 ani din cauza cancerului (acum: 76 de ani, fa&#539;&#259; de 81, media UE).</span></p><p><em><span>*sursa: Profil de &#539;ar&#259; privind cancerul, OECD 2025</span></em></p></li></ul><p>Ce vreau s&#259; zic cu toate astea: c&#259; mi-e tot mai greu s&#259; am &#238;ncredere &#238;n fundamentarea politicilor de s&#259;n&#259;tate public&#259;. </p><p>De unde s&#259; &#537;tii c&#226;&#539;i bani s&#259; aloci pentru un medicament, dac&#259; nu &#537;tii c&#226;&#539;i pacien&#539;i cu boala aia exist&#259;, sau c&#226;&#539;i bani s&#259; aloci pentru un anumit tip de serviciu, dac&#259; pare c&#259; nu exist&#259; cerere? </p><p>Cum ai putea, ca &#537;i Cas&#259; Na&#539;ional&#259; de S&#259;n&#259;tate, s&#259; argumentezi c&#259; ai nevoie de mai mul&#539;i bani pentru servicii psihologice, c&#226;nd tot datele tale, gre&#537;ite, &#238;&#539;i spun c&#259; n-ar avea cine s&#259; le implementeze? </p><p>Cum s&#259; am &#238;ncredere &#238;n noua platform&#259; informatic&#259; care se va lansa toamna asta, dac&#259; o simpl&#259; interogare a unor tabele, practic, d&#259; cu virgul&#259;?</p><p>Recunosc c&#259; am scris sec&#539;iunea asta de newsletter cu mult amar. Ce mi-am dorit de fiecare dat&#259; e s&#259;-&#539;i ar&#259;t cum func&#539;ioneaz&#259; sistemul, ce trebuie s&#259; faci c&#226;nd X sau Y &#537;i ce drepturi ai. Nu v&#226;nez gre&#537;eli, lucruri care nu func&#539;ioneaz&#259; sau bombe de pres&#259;. Dar, inevitabil, ajung la ele. Nu pot s&#259; le ignor &#537;i nici nu &#537;tiu cum a&#537; putea s&#259; le prezint f&#259;r&#259; s&#259;-&#539;i clatin &#537;i &#539;ie mai mult &#238;ncrederea &#238;n stat.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Dac&#259; vrei s&#259; cite&#537;ti &#238;n continuare astfel de analize, f&#259;r&#259; <em>Senza&#539;ional!</em> &#537;i <em>Exclusiv!</em>, te rog s&#259;-&#539;i faci un abonament pl&#259;tit. 7 EUR/lun&#259; sau 80/an. </p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><div><hr></div><p>La final, c&#226;teva recomand&#259;ri punctuale:</p><ul><li><p>luna trecut&#259; <a href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/cat-o-sa-mai-fii-aici-ed6?r=8k6pm&amp;utm_campaign=post&amp;utm_medium=web">am scris</a> despre cum te pot ajuta &#537;i unde g&#259;se&#537;ti navigatori de pacien&#539;i. Un rezumat g&#259;se&#537;ti &#238;n <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcd7ABD6DcM&amp;list=PLCFgLko6em_c&amp;index=1">acest interviu de la Euronews</a> sau &#238;n <a href="https://hotnews.ro/navigatorii-de-pacienti-te-ajuta-sa-gasesti-solutii-2322224">acest articol de pe Hotnews</a>;</p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.scena9.ro/article/povestea-unei-inimi-rachel-clarke-interviu">povestea unui transplant de cord</a> care a schimbat o lege &#238;n Marea Britanie. Am f&#259;cut un interviu Rachel Clarke, autoarea c&#259;r&#539;ii <em><a href="https://zyxbooks.ro/povestea-unei-inimi-rachel-clarke-zyx-books">Povestea unei inimi</a></em>, &#537;i cine l-a citit spune c&#259; e foarte frumos;</p></li><li><p><a href="https://snoop.ro/blocati-la-ati-mii-de-pacienti-pe-care-spitalul-nu-i-mai-poate-trata-dar-nu-are-unde-sa-i-trimita-vor-ramane-acolo-o-luna-doua-pana-cand-vrea-dumnezeu/">o hart&#259; a centrelor de palia&#539;ie</a> din toat&#259; &#539;ara, &#238;ntr-o analiz&#259; snoop.ro;</p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/07/26/well/water-hydration-quiz.html?unlocked_article_code=1.6lA.hDXi.gZaM9LvCMLFP&amp;smid=url-share">mituri despre hidratare</a>, &#238;ntr-un quizz The New York Times (articol cadou. Eu am r&#259;spuns corect la 8 din 12);</p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20260811-four-ways-to-extend-the-benefits-of-a-holiday?at_campaign_type=owned&amp;at_medium=emails&amp;at_objective=awareness&amp;at_ptr_type=email&amp;at_ptr_name=salesforce&amp;at_campaign=essentiallist&amp;at_link_origin=essentiallist&amp;at_email_send_date=20260814&amp;at_send_id=4655204&amp;at_link_title=https%3a%2f%2fwww.bbc.com%2ffuture%2farticle%2f20260811-four-ways-to-extend-the-benefits-of-a-holiday&amp;at_bbc_team=crm&amp;at_audience_id=219516479">cum s&#259; planifici</a>, respectiv s&#259; te &#238;ntorci dintr-o vacan&#539;&#259;, cu adev&#259;rat relaxat;</p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20260807-whats-the-best-time-of-day-to-have-dinner?at_campaign_type=owned&amp;at_medium=emails&amp;at_objective=awareness&amp;at_ptr_type=email&amp;at_ptr_name=salesforce&amp;at_campaign=essentiallist&amp;at_link_origin=essentiallist&amp;at_email_send_date=20260814&amp;at_send_id=4655204&amp;at_link_title=https%3a%2f%2fwww.bbc.com%2ffuture%2farticle%2f20260807-whats-the-best-time-of-day-to-have-dinner&amp;at_bbc_team=crm&amp;at_audience_id=219516479">la ce or&#259; e cel mai bine</a> s&#259; m&#259;n&#226;nci seara &#537;i de ce.</p></li></ul><p>Mul&#539;umesc, ne revedem &#238;n septembrie.</p><p>Sorana</p><p><em><span>Foaia de observa&#539;ie este o publica&#539;ie sus&#539;inut&#259; de </span><a href="https://www.ppcenergy.ro">PPC</a><span>.</span></em></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Boala mea, secretul meu]]></title><description><![CDATA[(De) ce ascundem c&#226;nd avem o afec&#539;iune]]></description><link>https://sorana.substack.com/p/boala-mea-secretul-meu</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://sorana.substack.com/p/boala-mea-secretul-meu</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Sorana Stănescu]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2026 08:36:56 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!B9KX!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F55273759-88d7-463d-8b7d-cc596e1e8346_2787x3319.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em><span>C&#226;nd boala risc&#259; s&#259; ne ia puterea &#537;i chiar independen&#539;a, tendin&#539;a e s-o neg&#259;m &#537;i s-o ascundem. Iar c&#226;nd vine cu ru&#537;ine sau vin&#259;, evitarea e garantat&#259;.</span></em></p><p></p><p>&#8222;Ne-am pierdut unii pe al&#539;ii&#8221;, mi-a spus Maria*, fiica cea mare, care avea 44 de ani c&#226;nd mama ei de 72 a ar&#259;tat primele semne de boal&#259;: &#238;nt&#226;i n-a mai recunoscut bancnotele, apoi n-a mai putut s&#259; articuleze cuvinte, p&#226;n&#259; c&#226;nd, &#238;n c&#226;&#539;iva ani, nu &#537;i-a mai recunoscut fetele &#537;i a dezvoltat o form&#259; de paranoia la adresa so&#539;ului ei, de aceea&#537;i v&#226;rst&#259; cu ea. </p><p>&#206;l b&#259;nuia c&#259; o &#238;n&#537;al&#259; &#537;i c&#259; d&#259; petreceri la care se consum&#259; droguri, de&#537;i &#238;ntre ei fusese mereu o rela&#539;ie simbiotic&#259; &#537;i el i-a fost devotat p&#226;n&#259; &#238;n ultima clip&#259;.</p><p>&#206;n urma unei serii de AVC-uri dup&#259; care s-a recuperat, femeia a primit diagnosticul de demen&#539;&#259; mixt&#259; (demen&#539;&#259; vascular&#259; &#537;i Alzheimer), pe care l-a negat &#238;nc&#259; dinainte de a ie&#537;i din spital. &#8222;Nu e adev&#259;rat, eu nu sunt nebun&#259;.&#8221; A acceptat s&#259; mearg&#259; la neurolog, dar nu la psihiatru, de&#537;i ar fi avut nevoie de ambii. Apoi a respins &#537;i neurologii, cu excep&#539;ia unuia, care a &#238;n&#539;eles situa&#539;ia &#537;i, ca s-o fac&#259; s&#259; coopereze, i-a spus c&#259; are &#8222;sindrom vertiginos&#8221;. </p><p>La psihiatru, &#238;n schimb, s-a dus Maria &#537;i a reu&#537;it s&#259; ia o re&#539;et&#259; pentru ni&#537;te medicamente care i-ar fi calmat mamei g&#226;ndurile intruzive. So&#539;ul a refuzat &#238;ns&#259; s&#259; i le dea, de&#537;i ea n-ar fi &#537;tiut niciodat&#259; ce ia &#537;i pentru ce. N-a vrut s&#259; treac&#259; peste voin&#539;a ei. La un moment dat, femeia a acceptat s&#259; se interneze &#238;mpreun&#259; cu el timp de &#537;ase s&#259;pt&#259;m&#226;ni la Spitalul de Psihiatrie &#8222;Alexandru Obregia&#8221;, &#8222;ca s&#259;-&#537;i trateze el dependen&#539;a de droguri&#8221;. &#206;n realitate, erau acolo pentru ea. Dar ea nu mai &#238;n&#539;elegea ce i se-nt&#226;mpl&#259;.</p><p>Erau am&#226;ndoi profesori universitari cunoscu&#539;i &#537;i respecta&#539;i &#238;n Bucure&#537;ti, cu o via&#539;&#259; cultural&#259; bogat&#259;, dou&#259; fete adulte &#537;i acces la resurse. Dar c&#226;nd s-au &#238;mboln&#259;vit, am&#226;ndoi &#537;i-au ascuns &#537;i diagnosticul, &#537;i suferin&#539;a, &#8222;pentru c&#259; nimeni &#238;n jurul lor nu avea a&#537;a ceva&#8221;, mi-a explicat Maria. O vreme, nici fiicelor nu le-au vorbit despre boala mamei.</p><p>Peste toate, femeia f&#259;cuse &#537;i depresie, pentru c&#259; sim&#539;ea c&#259; &#238;&#537;i pierduse identitatea. Ea, care &#537;i la debutul bolii mai &#539;inea un curs la universitate, ea, care tr&#259;ise toat&#259; via&#539;a pentru studen&#539;ii &#537;i munca ei. &#8222;Pierderea statutului era echivalent&#259; cu o moarte&#8221;, mi-a povestit Maria. </p><p>So&#539;ul ajunsese s&#259; se izoleze de prieteni, pentru c&#259; l-ar fi &#238;ntrebat de ea &#537;i n-ar fi &#537;tiut ce s&#259; r&#259;spund&#259;. <strong>&#8222;&#171;Cum s&#259; spun c&#259; are Alzheimer? Eu nu &#537;tiu pe nimeni care s&#259; fi avut probleme din astea&#187;&#8221;</strong>, i-a spus tat&#259;l la un moment dat Mariei. &#8222;&#536;i atunci i-am zis: &#171;Nu &#537;tii pe nimeni, pentru c&#259; to&#539;i ascunde&#539;i treaba asta, pentru c&#259; e ru&#537;ine&#187;&#8221;. Ei &#238;nse&#537;i &#238;i fusese ru&#537;ine de panica ce a cuprins-o c&#226;nd s-a g&#226;ndit c&#259; ar putea fi nevoit&#259; s&#259; devin&#259; infirmiera mamei ei.</p><p>Au fost ani grei pentru toat&#259; lumea, culmin&#226;nd cu ultimii trei, pe care mama i-a petrecut la un centru de &#238;ngrijiri, p&#226;n&#259; &#238;n 2021, c&#226;nd s-a stins. Imediat dup&#259;, tat&#259;l a primit diagnosticul de Parkinson, pe care nu l-a acceptat. Nu voia s&#259; ajung&#259; &#8222;ca ea&#8221;. &#206;n doar &#537;ase luni, s-a dus &#537;i el.</p><p>Se &#238;nt&#226;mpl&#259; des ca oamenii care au o boal&#259; cronic&#259; sau una care ar putea fi considerat&#259; &#8222;ru&#537;inoas&#259;&#8221; s&#259; ascund&#259; asta, dintr-o combina&#539;ie de fric&#259; de a fi stigmatiza&#539;i, vin&#259;, ru&#537;ine sau negare. &#206;n Rom&#226;nia, realitatea asta individual&#259; e influen&#539;at&#259; &#537;i de educa&#539;ia medical&#259; precar&#259;, stereotipuri culturale, un puternic sentiment al datoriei fa&#539;&#259; de ceilal&#539;i membri ai familiei &#537;i, pe alocuri, de o doz&#259; de misticism religios.</p><p>&#536;tiu, pentru c&#259; &#537;i eu suf&#259;r de o boal&#259; cronic&#259; de c&#226;&#539;iva ani &#537;i nu to&#539;i prietenii &#537;i colegii mei sunt la curent; de fapt, nici familia mea extins&#259; nu &#537;tie. C&#226;nd, cui &#537;i dac&#259; spun e o alegere pe care o fac de la caz la caz. Nu pot zice de unde vine sau ce-mi aduce evitarea &#537;i nici nu simt vreo obliga&#539;ie de a &#238;mp&#259;rt&#259;&#537;i tuturor, de&#537;i uneori ar ajuta, pentru c&#259; le-ar explica lipsa mea de energie sau motivele pentru care iau anumite decizii. 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17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Ilustra&#539;ie de Mircea Dr&#259;goi</figcaption></figure></div><p></p><h2>Nu vrei s&#259; devii &#8222;mai pu&#539;in&#8221;</h2><p>C&#226;nd boala &#238;&#539;i ia puterea &#537;i uneori independen&#539;a, tendin&#539;a e s-o ascunzi. Ascunzi tremorul p&#226;n&#259; chiar nu mai po&#539;i scrie de m&#226;n&#259;, pierderea memoriei p&#226;n&#259; c&#226;nd nu mai po&#539;i compensa cu o glum&#259;, fatigabilitatea cumplit&#259; p&#226;n&#259; c&#226;nd nu mai po&#539;i merge mai mult de 500 de metri. C&#226;t timp ascunzi &#537;i boala nu se vede, corpul nu tremur&#259;, p&#259;rul nu cade, tu &#238;nc&#259; e&#537;ti cel care controleaz&#259; boala, nu invers.</p><p>Oamenii simt c&#259; un diagnostic comunicat celor din jur o s&#259;-i transforme &#238;n ochii acestora: devin mai pu&#539;in capabili, mai pu&#539;in dezirabili, &#8222;mai pu&#539;in&#8221;, pur &#537;i simplu. &#536;i mai ales nu vor s&#259; fie privi&#539;i cu mil&#259;. Diferen&#539;a dintre mil&#259; &#537;i compasiune e una de statut. </p><p>Mil&#259; ar&#259;t cuiva pe care &#238;l v&#259;d mai prejos dec&#226;t mine. Compasiune &#8211; cuiva pe care &#238;l v&#259;d pe acela&#537;i &#8222;plan&#8221;, &#238;ncerc s&#259; &#238;n&#539;eleg prin ce trece &#537;i, eventual, s&#259;-l ajut, mi-a explicat antropologul Alex Dincovici, care &#539;ine un curs de antropologia corpului la &#536;coala Na&#539;ional&#259; de Studii Politice &#537;i Administrative (SNSPA). &#8222;Ca rom&#226;ni, nu cred c&#259; &#537;tim s&#259; ar&#259;t&#259;m compasiune&#8221;, spune el, &#8222;iar la nivel de limbaj, mila &#537;i compasiunea pot fi chiar asem&#259;n&#259;toare. Nici cel care prime&#537;te nu &#537;tie s&#259; diferen&#539;ieze &#238;ntre ele.&#8221;</p><p>Unii ascund familiei ca s&#259; nu-i &#238;ncarce emo&#539;ional sau din teama de a-&#537;i pierde autoritatea. &#8222;Ce se &#238;nt&#226;mpl&#259; cu un tat&#259; care simte c&#259;-&#537;i pierde puterea, cum se va comporta &#238;n fa&#539;a copiilor?&#8221;, se &#238;ntreab&#259; Dincovici. &#8222;O s&#259;-&#537;i manifeste puterea excesiv, poate, sau va &#238;ncerca s&#259; ascund&#259; boala ca s&#259;-&#537;i p&#259;streze statutul.&#8221; <strong>A accepta un diagnostic, mai ales degenerativ, ca &#238;n cazul celor doi profesori, sau o sc&#259;dere de capacitate de orice fel, e o pierdere mare de statut</strong>, spune el, &#537;i vine cu nevoia de a reconfigura rela&#539;iile sociale.</p><p>&#206;n cultura noastr&#259;, &#537;i dimensiunea de gen e important&#259;, mi-a explicat antropologul Andrei Mihail, care &#539;ine cursul &#238;mpreun&#259; cu Dincovici la SNSPA &#537;i a c&#259;rui tez&#259; de doctorat exploreaz&#259; experien&#539;ele sociale ale celor cu transplant renal. De exemplu, insuficien&#539;a renal&#259; cronic&#259; vine cu nevoia de a face dializ&#259; de trei ori pe s&#259;pt&#259;m&#226;n&#259;, &#537;i dintr-o dat&#259; b&#259;rbatul, care trebuie s&#259; fie baza familiei, are nevoie s&#259; fie &#238;ngrijit &#537;i nu-&#537;i mai poate &#238;ndeplini responsabilit&#259;&#539;ile: &#8222;Asta creeaz&#259; un sentiment de ru&#537;ine c&#259; nu mai e b&#259;rbat, &#238;l scoate dintr-un rol foarte masculinizat, pe care societatea rom&#226;neasc&#259; &#238;l are &#238;n continuare. Nu mai e&#537;ti b&#259;rbat, a&#537;a cum cere societatea s&#259; fii.&#8221;</p><div class="captioned-button-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/p/boala-mea-secretul-meu?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="CaptionedButtonToDOM"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Dac&#259; &#537;tii pe cineva care ar avea nevoie s&#259; citeasc&#259; acest eseu, trimite-i-l.</p></div><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/p/boala-mea-secretul-meu?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/boala-mea-secretul-meu?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p></div><p></p><h2>O ruptur&#259; biografic&#259;</h2><p>C&#226;nd a tu&#537;it cu s&#226;nge, Simona Adam-Bercu era &#238;n clasa a XII-a la cel mai bun liceu din Br&#259;ila. Fat&#259; con&#537;tiincioas&#259;, venit&#259; dintr-un or&#259;&#537;el din apropiere, &#537;tia c&#259; singura ei treab&#259; e s&#259; &#238;nve&#539;e, &#537;i asta f&#259;cea. Dup&#259; trei runde de antibiotic &#537;i-o internare la boli infec&#539;ioase &#238;n Br&#259;ila, toate inutile, a avut norocul s&#259; ajung&#259; la un medic bun &#537;i bl&#226;nd de la Spitalul de Pneumoftiziologie, sec&#539;ia de copii, din acela&#537;i ora&#537;. Diagnosticul a fost rapid &#537;i f&#259;r&#259; dubii: tuberculoz&#259;.</p><p>Simona crede c&#259; o contractase de la o fost&#259; coleg&#259; care avusese boala &#537;i cu care st&#259;tuse &#238;n gazd&#259; cu doi ani mai devreme. Bacilul, latent &#238;n organismul ei, s-a activat &#238;ntr-un moment de imunitate sc&#259;zut&#259;. A stat internat&#259; mai bine de dou&#259; luni &#537;i s-a preg&#259;tit pentru Bac. </p><p>&#8222;Tocmai murise Michael Jackson, iar eu &#238;nv&#259;&#539;am, &#238;nv&#259;&#539;am &#537;i pl&#226;ngeam dup&#259; Michael Jackson. Proiectasem toat&#259; suferin&#539;a mea asupra mor&#539;ii lui, ca s&#259; pot s&#259; pl&#226;ng &#537;i s&#259; m&#259; descarc&#8221;, spune azi. S-a vindecat, iar acum, la 35 de ani, este mam&#259;, &#537;i psiholog &#537;i psihoterapeut la &#238;nceput de carier&#259;.</p><p>Despre tuberculoz&#259; (TB) &#537;tia doar c&#259; e o boal&#259; a s&#259;r&#259;ciei, foarte stigmatizat&#259;, iar pe net n-a g&#259;sit nicio informa&#539;ie care s-o ajute. A trebuit s&#259; &#238;ndure ru&#537;inea de a-&#537;i suna to&#539;i cunoscu&#539;ii cu care intrase &#238;n contact, ca s&#259;-i avertizeze s&#259;-&#537;i fac&#259; analizele. Reac&#539;iile au fost &#238;n general OK, dar sunt &#537;i prietene cu care nu a mai vorbit niciodat&#259; de-atunci.</p><p>Psihologie &#537;i-ar fi dorit s&#259; fac&#259; &#238;nc&#259; de la final de liceu, dar la acea facultate intrase pe locurile cu tax&#259;, iar asta ar fi presupus un efort financiar prea mare pentru p&#259;rin&#539;ii ei. A&#537;a c&#259; a r&#259;mas la &#536;tiin&#539;e Politice, unde intrase la buget. Bucure&#537;tiul a fost un nou &#238;nceput, un loc unde lumea n-o &#537;tia. A&#537;a c&#259;, mai mul&#539;i ani, &#537;i-a ascuns fosta boal&#259;. &#206;&#537;i f&#259;cea radiografii &#537;i analize ori de c&#226;te ori i se p&#259;rea c&#259; e ceva &#238;n neregul&#259;, uneori &#537;i la &#537;ase luni. &#8222;Avem secrete &#537;i secrete. &#258;sta era secretul meu. Acum &#238;mi vine s&#259; r&#226;d.&#8221;</p><p>A &#238;nceput s&#259; fac&#259; voluntariat pentru copiii din Ferentari al&#259;turi de Valeriu Nicolae, activist pentru drepturile romilor. &#206;n primul an de masterat a fost selectat&#259; &#238;ntr-un program de leadership al Camerei de Comer&#539; Rom&#226;no-Americane &#537;i a &#238;nceput s&#259; fac&#259; <em>shadowing</em> la companii, inclusiv la Microsoft, unde a &#537;i r&#259;mas. Dar ru&#537;inea era cu ea.</p><p>&#8222;Eram acest fost bolnav de TB, care la 22 de ani avea un job la Microsoft &#537;i o ma&#537;in&#259; de serviciu pe care nu o conducea. Sim&#539;eam c&#259; nu merit s&#259; conduc un BMW Seria 3&#8221;, mi-a zis Simona &#238;ntr-o diminea&#539;&#259; cald&#259; de septembrie, c&#226;t bebelu&#537;ul ei dormea. &#8222;Parc&#259; &#238;n capul meu erau aceste dou&#259; persoane: fata &#238;n pijamale roz care a avut TB &#537;i fata &#238;n costum &#537;i cu tocuri, cu un super-job la o super-companie.&#8221;</p><p>A&#537;a c&#259; a ascuns vreo &#537;apte ani. P&#226;n&#259; c&#226;nd i-a spus lui Valeriu, care o chemase s&#259; lucreze cu el &#238;n Guvernul tehnocrat condus de Dacian Ciolo&#537; &#537;i instaurat &#238;n 2015, dup&#259; tragicul incendiu din Clubul Colectiv. Valeriu a &#238;ncurajat-o s&#259; scrie despre boala ei &#238;n s&#259;pt&#259;m&#226;nalul cultural <em>Dilema Veche</em>, unde publica &#537;i el. </p><p>At&#226;&#539;ia ani fusese convins&#259; c&#259; reac&#539;iile vor fi rele, pentru c&#259;, pe alocuri, a&#537;a &#537;i fuseser&#259; &#238;n liceu, dar acum creierul ei primea semnale c&#259; e <em>safe</em> s&#259; vorbeasc&#259;. &#536;i a fost. A povestit despre cum a fost diagnosticat&#259;, despre timpul petrecut degeaba la Infec&#539;ioase, cu &#238;nc&#259; &#537;apte oameni &#238;n camer&#259;, dar &#537;i despre doctori&#539;a bl&#226;nd&#259; care a tratat-o &#537;i a vindecat-o. Oamenii din jur i-au spus zis c&#259; e puternic&#259;, iar fo&#537;ti pacien&#539;i i-au scris c&#259; &#238;i ajut&#259; mult articolul, astfel c&#259; dup&#259; aceea s-a implicat &#537;i &#238;ntr-o campanie public&#259; de con&#537;tientizare a tuberculozei. </p><p>&#8222;Tratamentul s-a terminat c&#226;nd am vorbit&#8221;, a zis ea la o conferin&#539;&#259; TEDx, ani mai t&#226;rziu.</p><p>Un timp, Simona &#537;i-a spus c&#259;, dac&#259; ar avea de ales, ar face din nou tuberculoz&#259;, pentru c&#259; a&#537;a s-a maturizat, a fost un fel de &#537;coal&#259; a vie&#539;ii. Dar era doar un mecanism de adaptare. &#8222;Acum, dac&#259; ar fi s&#259; o iau de la &#238;nceput, a&#537; tr&#259;i bine-mersi, ca un adolescent normal.&#8221; A consumat mult&#259; energie psihic&#259; &#238;ncerc&#226;nd s&#259; ascund&#259; &#537;i a pierdut mult timp crez&#226;nd c&#259; e doar un bolnav de tuberculoz&#259; care nu merit&#259;. A&#537;a a acceptat joburi, respectiv un volum mare de munc&#259; &#238;ntr-un ONG prestigios, care au adus-o &#238;n burnout la 21 de ani, situa&#539;ii pe care azi nu le-ar mai accepta.</p><p>Dup&#259; licen&#539;&#259;, Simona a urmat un masterat &#238;n psihologie &#537;i s-a format ca psihoterapeut. Studiind, &#537;i-a dat seama c&#226;t de mult&#259; ru&#537;ine interiorizase &#537;i cum sim&#539;ea nevoia s&#259; compenseze, devenind perfec&#539;ionist&#259; &#537;i salvator. Dac&#259; ea se vindecase repede &#537;i avusese o experien&#539;&#259; bun&#259; &#238;n spital, se sim&#539;ea datoare s&#259; dea &#238;napoi &#238;nzecit. Era <em>people pleaser</em> &#537;i asta o f&#259;cea s&#259; se simt&#259; pl&#259;cut&#259;, valorizat&#259;, dar &#537;i hipervigilent&#259; &#8211; at&#226;t fa&#539;&#259; de propriul organism, c&#226;t &#537;i de reac&#539;iile celorlal&#539;i.</p><p>E greu de generalizat de ce rom&#226;nii ascund diferite diagnostice, pentru c&#259; motivele pot diferi de la boal&#259; la boal&#259;. &#206;n cazul leprei &#537;i al tuberculozei, pe care antropologul Andrei Mihail le-a cercetat, <strong>oamenii ascund de fric&#259; s&#259; nu fie stigmatiza&#539;i, dar &#537;i din ru&#537;ine, care vine din anumite asocieri culturale</strong>, precum cea dintre tuberculoz&#259; &#537;i s&#259;r&#259;cie, cum a fost &#537;i &#238;n cazul Simonei.</p><p>De&#537;i poate nu sunt la fel de evidente, &#537;i ne&#238;ncrederea &#238;n sistemul medical, respectiv &#537;i lipsa de informa&#539;ii, sunt cauze. &#8222;E foarte mult&#259; cultur&#259; oral&#259; a bolii&#8221;, explic&#259; Mihail, &#8222;care se transmite pe c&#259;i pe care, din p&#259;cate, statul &#537;i sistemul medical nu le controleaz&#259; &#8211; la modul pozitiv al cuv&#226;ntului &#8211;, nu le mediaz&#259;, ceea ce umple goluri (informa&#539;ionale, n.r.) &#537;i las&#259; foarte mult loc pentru interpretare&#8221;. </p><p>Antropologul &#238;&#537;i aminte&#537;te de anii &#8217;90, c&#226;nd circulau toate miturile despre cum se transmite HIV &#8211; el era la &#537;coal&#259;, iar p&#259;rin&#539;ii &#238;i spuneau s&#259; aib&#259; grij&#259;, s&#259; nu &#238;i ating&#259; pe colegii bolnavi &#537;i s&#259; fie atent s&#259; i se desigileze acul &#238;n fa&#539;&#259; la vaccin.</p><p>Bolile cronice care nu se v&#259;d mai vin &#537;i cu un gen de suferin&#539;&#259; pe care medicina nu &#537;tie s-o cuantifice. Prin componenta social&#259;, suferin&#539;a reconfigureaz&#259; lumea pentru cel care o resimte. <strong>Po&#539;i m&#259;sura durerea folosind anumite scale, dar nu &#537;i suferin&#539;a.</strong></p><p>&#8222;Oamenii se uit&#259; &#537;i spun: &#171;Ai dou&#259; m&#226;ini, dou&#259; picioare, pari OK, nu te mai pl&#226;nge at&#226;t de chestia asta&#187;&#8221;, spune Alex Dincovici. C&#226;nd un om prime&#537;te diagnosticul unei boli cronice, el tr&#259;ie&#537;te &#8222;o ruptur&#259; biografic&#259;&#8221;, dup&#259; cum o nume&#537;te antropologul Michael Bury. Ceea ce &#238;&#539;i imaginai despre cum va fi via&#539;a ta nu mai e posibil, a&#537;a c&#259; r&#259;m&#226;i cu &#238;ntrebarea: <em>OK, eu ce fac mai departe?</em> Nu e treaba medicului s&#259; r&#259;spund&#259; la &#238;ntrebarea asta &#537;i nici s&#259; aib&#259; solu&#539;ii pentru noile tale nevoi psihosociale, dar sistemul medical e parte a unui sistem social care ar trebui g&#226;ndit mai &#238;n ansamblu &#537;i mai aproape de pacien&#539;i, crede Mihail.</p><p>&#206;n Rom&#226;nia, tocmai pentru c&#259; &#238;ntrep&#259;trunderea asta &#238;ntre social &#537;i medical nu exist&#259;, ruptura biografic&#259; e &#537;i mai puternic&#259;. Iar uneori e vorba de lucruri foarte concrete pe care sistemul nu le acoper&#259; &#8211; de exemplu, a constatat antropologul &#238;n cadrul cercet&#259;rii sale doctorale, mul&#539;i dintre cei cu transplant renal nu &#537;tiau ce au voie s&#259; m&#259;n&#226;nce &#537;i ce nu sau c&#259; au dreptul la un certificat de handicap. (Dac&#259; au noroc, afl&#259; de la asocia&#539;iile de pacien&#539;i.)</p><p>Simona, de pild&#259;, &#537;tie c&#259;, din cauza stigmei &#537;i a ne&#238;ncrederii &#238;n sistemul medical, mul&#539;i bolnavi nu merg la tratament. Iar c&#226;nd &#238;&#537;i pierd &#238;ncrederea &#238;n sisteme, &#238;n general, oamenii apeleaz&#259; la supranatural &#8211; &#537;i poate &#537;i de aici vedem explozia actual&#259; de vraci, pseudo-terapeu&#539;i &#537;i terapii cu &#238;ngeri. Dup&#259; ce &#238;&#537;i va relua munca la cabinetul de psihoterapie, femeia se g&#226;nde&#537;te s&#259; lucreze &#537;i cu asocia&#539;ii de pacien&#539;i sau cu persoane cu boli cronice.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/p/boala-mea-secretul-meu/comments&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Leave a comment&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/boala-mea-secretul-meu/comments"><span>Leave a comment</span></a></p><p>Ce putem schimba &#238;n spa&#539;iul public, insist&#259; ea, e s&#259; vorbim mai mult despre tuberculoz&#259;, pentru c&#259; tr&#259;im cu impresia c&#259; nu mai exist&#259; sau c&#259; e foarte rar&#259;, pe c&#226;nd la noi &#238;nc&#259; se moare din cauza asta. Cazurile se &#238;nmul&#539;esc &#537;i Rom&#226;nia &#8222;export&#259;&#8221; TB &#238;n Europa. &#206;n acela&#537;i timp, &#238;ns&#259;, Simona nu mai crede c&#259; e o <em>datorie</em> a celor care s-au vindecat &#8222;s&#259; dea ceva mai departe&#8221;. Acum zece ani ar fi zis contrariul. &#8222;E frumos s&#259; faci asta, dac&#259; ai procesat ce &#539;i s-a &#238;nt&#226;mplat &#537;i nu te retraumatizeaz&#259; pe tine, dar nu e o datorie. Singura mea datorie e fa&#539;&#259; de mine, s&#259; tr&#259;iesc eu frumos &#537;i apoi, dac&#259; pot, s&#259; dau mai departe. Altfel, dac&#259; dai dintr-un pahar gol, s-ar putea s&#259; faci mai mult r&#259;u dec&#226;t bine.&#8221;</p><h2>C&#226;nd decizi s&#259; vorbe&#537;ti deschis</h2><p>&#206;n 2019, dup&#259; ani &#238;n care s-a luptat &#537;i cu ru&#537;inea bolii, &#537;i cu joburi &#238;n care nu se reg&#259;sea, Simona a &#238;nceput Facultatea de Psihologie la Universitatea &#8222;Titu Maiorescu&#8221; din Bucure&#537;ti &#537;i a fost coleg&#259; cu Delia Grigoroiu, care a tr&#259;it cu totul altfel experien&#539;a bolii.</p><p>C&#226;nd a fost diagnosticat&#259; cu cancer de s&#226;n, la 37 de ani, Delia a &#238;nceput s&#259; citeasc&#259;, &#238;n c&#259;utarea unui r&#259;spuns la &#238;ntrebarea &#8222;De ce?&#8221;. &#8222;Am pus m&#226;na pe (cartea lui, n.r.) Gabor Mat&#233;, <em>C&#226;nd corpul spune nu</em>. Dup&#259; ce am citit jum&#259;tate, am &#238;nchis-o &#537;i am zis c&#259; nu pot s&#259; tr&#259;iesc cu sentimentul &#259;sta de culpabilizare, c&#259; ceva din mine, din psihicul meu, e cauza &#537;i c&#259; eu am vrut s&#259; m&#259; &#238;mboln&#259;vesc.&#8221;</p><p>&#206;n acel moment, Delia lucra la Funda&#539;ia Comunitar&#259; Bucure&#537;ti, pe <em>fundraising</em> &#537;i comunicare. Dup&#259; un program de doi ani de formare &#238;n coaching, &#238;ncepuse Facultatea de Psihologie, era &#238;n anul I &#537;i &#238;n prima s&#259;pt&#259;m&#226;n&#259; din pandemie. A continuat facultatea, a &#238;nceput &#537;i un proces personal de psihanaliz&#259;, iar dup&#259; facultate a continuat cu masterat &#537;i formare &#238;n psihanaliz&#259;. N-a &#238;ntrerupt din cauza bolii, de&#537;i i-a fost greu. A avut perioade &#238;n care mergea &#537;i la analiz&#259; personal&#259; de trei ori pe s&#259;pt&#259;m&#226;n&#259;, &#537;i la cursuri, &#537;i la tratament.</p><p>&#8222;Dar nu am sim&#539;it c&#259; sunt singur&#259;. Nu am sim&#539;it niciodat&#259; c&#259; pic &#238;n gol&#8221;, iar tot ceea ce studia o ajuta s&#259; integreze &#238;n experien&#539;a personal&#259;. &#8222;Le-am v&#259;zut ca pe ni&#537;te terapii adjuvante&#8221;, spune azi Delia. De aceea, pentru un pacient care nu are toate astea, cel mai important rol al psihologului e s&#259; &#238;l sus&#539;in&#259; s&#259; &#238;&#537;i g&#259;seasc&#259; resursele de via&#539;&#259; pe care totu&#537;i le are &#8211; pe cine poate suna, cu cine poate vorbi? </p><p><strong>&#8222;Indiferent ce boal&#259; ai, nu po&#539;i s-o duci singur &#537;i nu po&#539;i s&#259; te faci bine dec&#226;t &#238;mpreun&#259; cu cineva din jur&#8221;</strong>, crede ea.</p><p>So&#539;ul Deliei a fost cu ea &#238;n cabinetul doctorului c&#226;nd a f&#259;cut biopsia, o procedur&#259; prin care se preleveaz&#259; un fragment de &#539;esut pentru a fi analizat la microscop &#537;i a stabili diagnosticul de cancer. Fiului lor i-au spus c&#226;teva s&#259;pt&#259;m&#226;ni mai t&#226;rziu, dup&#259; ce &#238;&#537;i s&#259;rb&#259;torise aniversarea de 9 ani. Nu s-a g&#226;ndit nicio clip&#259; s&#259; ascund&#259; celor din jur. Delia a vorbit deschis chiar &#537;i pe Facebook, pentru c&#259; asta e firea ei. </p><p>&#8222;M-am g&#226;ndit a&#537;a: poate ajut, dar poate m&#259; &#537;i ajut, poate g&#259;sesc alt tip de resurs&#259;. Poate exist&#259; oameni care ar putea s&#259;-mi dea tot felul de idei sau g&#259;sesc oameni cu care s&#259; vorbesc.&#8221; A&#537;a a aflat de multe femei din via&#539;a ei despre care nu &#537;tia c&#259; trecuser&#259; prin cancer. &#536;i azi prime&#537;te mesaje de la oameni care &#238;i mul&#539;umesc c&#259;, scriind despre asta, le-a dat curaj s&#259; mearg&#259; mai departe.</p><p>A &#238;mp&#259;rt&#259;&#537;i sau nu clien&#539;ilor experien&#539;a ei cu cancerul e o decizie pe care o ia de la caz la caz &#537;i pe care o discut&#259; cu supervizorul &#537;i psihoterapeutul ei. Analizeaz&#259; dac&#259; e util pentru rela&#539;ia terapeutic&#259; sau dac&#259;, dimpotriv&#259;, i-ar speria &#537;i i-ar &#238;ndep&#259;rta pe oameni de a-&#537;i examina frica de moarte. Unii vin la ea tocmai pentru c&#259; &#537;tie ce &#238;nseamn&#259; s&#259; tr&#259;ie&#537;ti cu o boal&#259;. </p><p>&#206;n rela&#539;ie cu un pacient cu cancer, experien&#539;a o ajut&#259; s&#259; preg&#259;teasc&#259; ni&#537;te momente la care el (sau ea, de cele mai multe ori) nu s-a g&#226;ndit. Opera&#539;ia de mastectomie, de exemplu, dac&#259; &#238;&#537;i va mai putea ridica copilul &#238;n bra&#539;e sau cum &#238;i va afecta boala rela&#539;ia de cuplu. &#8222;&#206;n toate cazurile, pe pacient &#238;l ajut&#259; s&#259; se &#238;nt&#226;lneasc&#259; cu cineva care chiar aude tipul &#259;la de suferin&#539;&#259; &#537;i nu insist&#259; pe alte lucruri, cum ar fi: &#171;Du-te &#537;i f&#259; o respira&#539;ie sau f&#259; exerci&#539;ii de recuno&#537;tin&#539;&#259;.&#187;.&#8221;</p><p>Delia a &#238;nt&#226;lnit persoane care nu vor s&#259;-&#537;i dezv&#259;luie diagnosticul la locul de munc&#259; sau &#238;&#537;i iau foarte pu&#539;in concediu medical, c&#226;t s&#259; fac&#259; chimioterapia. Al&#539;ii chiar continu&#259; s&#259; mearg&#259; la job &#238;ntre curele de chimioterapie: &#8222;Se machiaz&#259; &#537;i poart&#259; peruc&#259;, ca &#537;i cum nu s-ar fi &#238;nt&#226;mplat nimic&#8221;. A observat &#537;i c&#259; oamenii folosesc umorul &#537;i intelectualizarea excesive ca mecanisme de ap&#259;rare, ca s&#259; mearg&#259; mai departe: &#8222;Pentru c&#259;, altfel, panica &#537;i teroarea sunt at&#226;t de greu de dus, &#238;nc&#226;t mul&#539;i ar abandona.&#8221; &#536;i asta pentru c&#259; orice boal&#259; cronic&#259;, chiar dac&#259; nu vine cu amenin&#539;area mor&#539;ii, ascunde o angoas&#259;.</p><p>&#8222;Cancerul e &#238;n continuare o boal&#259; foarte &#238;nc&#259;rcat&#259; de afectivitate &#537;i de moralitate&#8220;, crede antropologul Alex Dincovici. E v&#259;zut de mult&#259; lume ca o manifestare a personalit&#259;&#539;ii, iar curentul psihosomatic, ce &#238;ncearc&#259; s&#259; fac&#259; leg&#259;tura &#238;ntre minte, corp &#537;i stres, accentueaz&#259; asta. &#8222;Dac&#259; te stresezi prea mult, te &#238;mboln&#259;ve&#537;ti, iar dac&#259; te stresezi at&#226;t, poate e&#537;ti tu prea sensibil&#8221;, puncteaz&#259; Dincovici esen&#539;a acestei teorii.</p><p>Studiile arat&#259; o probabilitate mai mare de stigmatizare a bolilor cronice fa&#539;&#259; de cele acute. Iar cauza lor &#8211; sau ceea ce societatea percepe drept cauz&#259; &#8211; conteaz&#259;. <strong>Dac&#259; o boal&#259; pare a fi rezultatul unei alegeri sau al unui stil de via&#539;&#259;, e mai probabil s&#259; fie stigmatizat&#259;.</strong> &#206;n v&#226;rful clasamentului se afl&#259; problemele de s&#259;n&#259;tate mintal&#259;, v&#259;zute deseori ca o alegere &#537;i o sl&#259;biciune moral&#259;. Iar c&#226;nd la mijloc se afl&#259; o dizabilitate, stigmatul e aproape garantat. </p><p>Societatea rom&#226;neasc&#259; a ascuns tot ce &#238;nseamn&#259; dizabilitate prin mijloace foarte concrete (de exemplu, nu exist&#259; trasee accesibilizate pentru persoanele &#238;n fotoliu rulant). E valabil &#537;i pentru sistemul educa&#539;ional, care nu poate gestiona copii cu o problem&#259; de personalitate, cu at&#226;t mai pu&#539;in pe cei cu cerin&#539;e educa&#539;ionale speciale. &#8222;&#536;i atunci, cum s&#259; nu existe stigmat, dac&#259; vezi c&#259; cineva e diferit de al&#539;ii, dar nimeni nu &#537;tie cum s&#259; gestioneze asta?&#8221;, se &#238;ntreab&#259; Dincovici. </p><p>Am putea &#238;nv&#259;&#539;a din <em>popular culture</em>, doar c&#259; &#537;i acolo discursul este normativ: toat&#259; lumea e &#238;n putere, s&#259;n&#259;toas&#259;, e &#8222;<em>able</em>&#8221; (capabil&#259;) s&#259; fac&#259; orice. &#8222;Dac&#259; asta e singura reprezentare social&#259; de care are parte copilul t&#259;u cu o dizabilitate, ce fel de viitor &#238;&#537;i poate imagina?&#8221;.</p><p>Interesul crescut, chiar &#537;i &#238;n Rom&#226;nia, pentru corp, s&#259;n&#259;tate &#537;i wellness, risc&#259; s&#259; ad&#226;nceasc&#259; pr&#259;pastia dintre <em>able people</em> (oameni s&#259;n&#259;to&#537;i, capabili) &#537;i <em>disabled people</em> (oameni cu dizabilit&#259;&#539;i). &#536;i &#238;nt&#259;re&#537;te &#537;i pr&#259;pastia &#238;ntre clasele sociale, completeaz&#259; Dincovici, pentru c&#259; acest ideal de corp s&#259;n&#259;tos se ob&#539;ine doar cu bani. </p><p>&#206;ntregul discurs se &#238;nv&#226;rte &#238;n jurul ideii de a avea grij&#259; de tine &#537;i mai pu&#539;in de ceilal&#539;i: &#8222;Pe de-o parte, n-am schimbat aproape deloc discursul &#537;i reprezentarea persoanelor care au o suferin&#539;&#259; sau o dizabilitate &#537;i, pe de alt&#259; parte, cre&#537;te vizibilitatea celor care-&#537;i permit, pot, au, sunt bine, sunt s&#259;n&#259;to&#537;i, sunt frumo&#537;i&#8221;.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Dac&#259; apreciezi astfel de eseuri &#537;i discu&#539;iile pe care le pot deschide, sus&#539;ine-mi munca cu un abonament pl&#259;tit.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p></p><h2>S&#259; nu ne pierdem unii pe al&#539;ii</h2><p>I-am &#238;ntrebat pe cei cu care am vorbit pentru articol ce putem schimba, &#238;n noi &#537;i &#238;n societate, din felul &#238;n care ne raport&#259;m la boal&#259;. Antropologul Andrei Mihail crede c&#259; doar f&#259;c&#226;ndu-le copiilor psihoeduca&#539;ie &#537;i &#238;nv&#259;&#539;&#226;ndu-i s&#259; renun&#539;e la rolurile tradi&#539;ionale de gen putem avea o &#537;ans&#259; s&#259; reducem stigma &#537;i ru&#537;inea asociate bolilor &#8211; &#537;i vede &#238;nceputul schimb&#259;rii la unii dintre studen&#539;ii lui, dar &#537;tie c&#259; reprezint&#259; un grup &#8222;preselectat&#8221;: &#8222;Un b&#259;iat de 6-7 ani pe care acum p&#259;rin&#539;ii &#238;l &#238;nva&#539;&#259; c&#259; e OK s&#259; spun&#259; c&#259; &#238;l doare ceva are &#537;anse s&#259; nu mai cad&#259; &#238;n aceea&#537;i capcan&#259;&#8221;, spune el.</p><p>Am &#238;ntrebat-o pe Delia cum ne &#238;nv&#259;&#539;&#259;m copiii s&#259; vorbeasc&#259; despre boal&#259; &#537;i suferin&#539;&#259;. Crede c&#259; e nevoie, &#238;n primul r&#226;nd, ca p&#259;rin&#539;ii s&#259; se cunoasc&#259; &#537;i s&#259; se &#238;n&#539;eleag&#259; foarte bine pe ei &#238;n&#537;i&#537;i &#537;i unul pe cel&#259;lalt, &#537;i abia apoi s&#259; aib&#259; un copil, c&#259;ruia s&#259;-i dea mai departe limbajul emo&#539;ional. &#8222;Cunosc&#226;ndu-mi eu nevoile &#537;i numindu-mi emo&#539;iile, pot s&#259;-l expun la un anumit tip de comportament. Va fi normal pentru noi s&#259; ne exprim&#259;m sup&#259;rarea, triste&#539;ea, s&#259; pl&#226;ngem sau s&#259; dans&#259;m c&#226;nd avem o veste bun&#259;. Va fi preg&#259;tit s&#259; afle lucruri grele, pentru c&#259; va fi &#238;nv&#259;&#539;at c&#259; via&#539;a nu e liniar&#259;, e sus-jos, sus-jos, &#537;i c&#259;, indiferent ce ni se &#238;nt&#226;mpl&#259;, putem s&#259; le ducem &#238;mpreun&#259;.&#8221;</p><p>Maria, fiica celor doi profesori universitari, crede c&#259; trebuie s&#259; &#238;nv&#259;&#539;&#259;m s&#259; vorbim cu oamenii bolnavi &#537;i s&#259; separ&#259;m termenii: <strong>s&#259; scoatem din registrul medical cuvinte precum &#8222;demen&#539;&#259;&#8221; sau &#8222;sclerozat&#8221;, care au p&#259;truns &#238;n zona public&#259; &#537;i au conota&#539;ii grele, negative</strong>, &#537;i s&#259; folosim diagnostice mai specifice, cum au fost &#8222;Alzheimer&#8221; &#537;i &#8222;Parkinson&#8221;. &#206;n plan personal, are c&#226;teva prietene cu care a f&#259;cut un pact:<em> dac&#259; vezi ceva &#238;n neregul&#259; la mine</em>, &#238;mi spui &#8211; &#537;i invers. &#8222;Adic&#259; s&#259; nu te duci singur nici &#238;n risc, nici &#238;n boal&#259;.&#8221;</p><p>&#8222;Nu &#537;tiu dac&#259; acceptarea bolii le-ar fi f&#259;cut via&#539;a mai bun&#259;&#8221;, spune Maria despre p&#259;rin&#539;ii ei. &#8222;&#536;i nu &#537;tiu dac&#259; ar fi putut s&#259; accepte, dat&#259; fiind istoria lor. Ei au fost victimele bolii &#537;i ale societ&#259;&#539;ii, au crescut &#238;ntr-un sistem &#238;n care nimeni nu vorbea despre boli neurologice sau mintale. Nou&#259;, celor din jur, probabil c&#259; ne-ar fi fost mai u&#537;or. Am fi putut vorbi, am fi putut s&#259; ne sf&#259;tuim, s&#259;-i &#238;ntreb&#259;m ce-&#537;i doresc. Proced&#226;nd a&#537;a, <strong>ne-am pierdut unii pe al&#539;ii.</strong>&#8221;</p><p>Pe de alt&#259; parte, Maria nu consider&#259; c&#259; p&#259;rin&#539;ii au fost egoi&#537;ti neg&#226;ndu-&#537;i boala &#537;i f&#259;c&#226;nd lucrurile grele pentru fiice. C&#226;nd e&#537;ti bolnav, &#238;&#539;i pierzi puterea asupra propriei vie&#539;i, &#537;i atunci e natural s&#259; devii egocentric: &#8222;&#206;&#539;i dai voie s&#259; nu te mai g&#226;nde&#537;ti la cei din jur. Ajungi s&#259; tr&#259;ie&#537;ti &#238;ntr-o lume mult mai mic&#259;, care nu-i mai include pe ceilal&#539;i&#8221;. &#536;i niciodat&#259; nu po&#539;i &#537;ti cine vei deveni &#238;n momentul &#238;n care boala &#238;ncepe s&#259;-&#539;i m&#259;n&#226;nce din creier.</p><p>Chiar &#537;i a&#537;a, crede ea, boala nu ar trebui s&#259; fie doar o chestiune personal&#259; sau a familiei imediate, pentru c&#259; niciodat&#259; nu e. Poate fi &#537;i a vecinilor, &#537;i a prietenilor, care s&#259;-&#539;i bat&#259; la u&#537;&#259;, chiar dac&#259; nu au &#238;nc&#259; cuvintele potrivite. Sunt probleme de comunitate, pe care doar &#238;n comunitate le putem rezolva. &#8222;E mai s&#259;n&#259;tos ca boala s&#259; fie vizibil&#259; &#537;i s&#259; fie &#238;n comunitate, dec&#226;t s&#259; trebuiasc&#259; s&#259; ne descurc&#259;m cu ea singuri &#537;i s-o ascundem&#8221;&#8220;, spune ea. &#8222;Astfel, odat&#259; &#238;mp&#259;rt&#259;&#537;ite, ru&#537;inea &#537;i vinov&#259;&#539;ia pe care le simt unii legat de boala lor se usuc&#259; &#537;i mor. Cred c&#259; putem vindeca sistemele mici mai repede dec&#226;t pe cele mari.&#8221;</p><p><strong>Din experien&#539;&#259; proprie, pot zice c&#259; o boal&#259; cronic&#259; vine cu un paradox: vrei s&#259; r&#259;m&#226;n&#259; ascuns&#259;, &#537;i &#238;n acela&#537;i timp s&#259; fie recunoscut&#259;, v&#259;zut&#259;</strong>. Ce &#537;i c&#226;t &#238;mp&#259;rt&#259;&#537;e&#537;ti devine o alegere pe care trebuie s&#259; o faci des, uneori de mai multe ori pe zi. Unora le spui realit&#259;&#539;ile concrete ale vie&#539;ii tale (ce te doare, cum te sim&#539;i), dar nu le vorbe&#537;ti despre modul profund &#238;n care &#539;i s-a schimbat via&#539;a. </p><p>Eu nu mi-am numit boala &#238;n mod public &#8211; &#537;i datorit&#259; profesiei, pentru c&#259; vreau s&#259; p&#259;strez o anumit&#259; distan&#539;&#259; &#8211;, dar nu am nicio problem&#259; s&#259; spun public c&#259; am o boal&#259; cronic&#259; &#537;i c&#259; fac un tratament pe via&#539;&#259;, care &#238;mi sl&#259;be&#537;te sistemul imunitar. Prietenii apropia&#539;i &#537;tiu despre ce e vorba &#537;i le spun cum m&#259; simt atunci c&#226;nd starea mea risc&#259; s&#259;-mi influen&#539;eze munca sau vreun efort de echip&#259;. Dar &#238;i num&#259;r pe degete pe cei cu care am vorbit despre decizia radical&#259; de a nu avea copii, pe care am luat-o imediat dup&#259; diagnostic. De&#537;i nici boala, nici tratamentul nu m-ar fi &#238;mpiedicat.</p><p>Am citit &#238;ntr-un articol c&#259; am putea &#238;mp&#259;r&#539;i oamenii de l&#226;ng&#259; noi &#238;n dou&#259; categorii: spectatori &#537;i <em>stakeholderi</em>. Spectatorii nu au nevoie s&#259; &#537;tie. <em>Stakeholderii</em>, de cele mai multe ori, da, &#8212; iar cine sunt ace&#537;tia, decide fiecare.<br></p><p>* Maria este un pseudonim, pentru a p&#259;stra confiden&#539;ialitatea persoanei. Simona &#537;i Delia sunt nume reale.<br><br><em>Articol publicat prima dat&#259; &#238;n decembrie 2025, &#238;n <a href="https://www.scena9.ro/revista">num&#259;rul 7 al revistei Scena9</a>.</em></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/p/boala-mea-secretul-meu?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/boala-mea-secretul-meu?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><p></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Cât o să mai fii aici?]]></title><description><![CDATA[Ce r&#259;spund navigatorii de pacien&#539;i]]></description><link>https://sorana.substack.com/p/cat-o-sa-mai-fii-aici-ed6</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://sorana.substack.com/p/cat-o-sa-mai-fii-aici-ed6</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Sorana Stănescu]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2026 04:00:16 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!l7eI!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc16b23f9-c819-4775-9e1d-ae50fedb4d9b_1456x1048.heic" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span>Salut!</span></p><p><span>&#536; bine te-am reg&#259;sit dup&#259; o pauz&#259; mai lung&#259; dec&#226;t mi-a&#537; fi dorit.</span></p><p><span>Edi&#539;ia asta vorbim despre un subiect pe care &#238;l urm&#259;resc de vreo trei ani &#537;i jum&#259;tate: ce beneficii aduc navigatorii de pacien&#539;i &#537;i cum ar putea fi ei integra&#539;i &#238;n sistemul public de s&#259;n&#259;tate. Recunosc c&#259; partea a doua nu-mi d&#259; pace, pentru c&#259; &#537;tiu pe propria-mi piele c&#226;t de important e s&#259; te &#238;ndrume cineva &#537;i s&#259;-&#539;i r&#259;spund&#259; la &#238;ntreb&#259;ri, de multe ori, elementare.</span></p><p><span>De&#537;i statul nu a f&#259;cut ce trebuie ca s&#259; putem avea navigatori &#238;n spitale, simt c&#259; breasla devine tot mai puternic&#259; &#537;i &#238;ncearc&#259; s&#259; se profesionalizeze, iar asta ar trebui s&#259; pun&#259; presiune pe deciden&#539;i. Mai mult, am g&#259;sit un caz de colaborare exemplar&#259; &#238;ntre o facultate de stat &#537;i dou&#259; ONG-uri, care au creat un proces care &#238;mpinge profesia &#238;nainte.</span></p><p><span>P&#226;n&#259; s&#259; intr&#259;m &#238;n subiect, mai am dou&#259; anun&#539;uri:</span></p><ul><li><p>Am c&#226;&#537;tigat premiul pentru jurnalism explicativ la singura competi&#539;ie de jurnalism de la noi, Superscrieri (FYI un premiu onorific, f&#259;r&#259; bani, pentru c&#259; resursele sunt pu&#539;ine &#238;n industria asta, dar care m&#259; bucur&#259; foarte mult &#8211; men&#539;ionez asta pentru c&#259; nu vorbim suficient despre costurile jurnalismului de calitate).</p></li><li><p>Dac&#259; e&#537;ti <em>femeie</em> &#537;i <em>ai o boal&#259; cronic&#259;</em>, a&#537; vrea s&#259; &#537;tiu cum te-au afectat reducerile din s&#259;n&#259;tate din ultimul an. &#538;i-ai pierdut statutul de co-asigurat? N-ai mai putut s&#259;-&#539;i faci investiga&#539;iile pe MONITOR? Nu &#539;i-ai mai permis toate medicamentele? Te rog d&#259; un reply la acest email, a&#537; vrea s&#259; vorbim.</p></li></ul><p><span>&#536;i acum, articolul, &#238;n care o s&#259; afli:</span></p><ul><li><p><span>Ce este un navigator de pacien&#539;i &#537;i unde g&#259;se&#537;ti unul;</span></p></li><li><p><span>Ce poate &#537;i nu poate rezolva un navigator;</span></p></li><li><p><span>C&#226;t te cost&#259; serviciile unui navigator;</span></p></li><li><p><span>Cum devii unul &#537;i unde te po&#539;i angaja;</span></p></li><li><p><span>Ce lipse&#537;te ca s&#259; avem navigatori &#238;n sistemul public.</span></p></li></ul><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Ca s&#259; prime&#537;ti lunar astfel de informa&#539;ii, aboneaz&#259;-te.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><div><hr></div><p><span>&#8212; Ce este navigatorul?, a &#238;ntrebat Andi.</span></p><p><span>&#8212; Nu e medic.</span></p><p><span>&#8212; Nu e psiholog.</span></p><p><span>&#8212; Nu e avocatul pacientului.</span></p><p><span>&#8212; Corect. Navigatorul de pacien&#539;i ofer&#259; sprijin de orientare, informare, organizare &#537;i facilitare a accesului la resurse medicale, sociale, administrative sau comunitare, a completat Andi, &#238;nainte de a vorbi despre setarea cadrului de lucru. Nivelul de stres este foarte mare. S&#259; r&#259;spunde&#539;i la telefon la 12 noaptea nu e interzis, dar, ca s&#259; r&#259;m&#226;nem to&#539;i s&#259;n&#259;to&#537;i &#537;i fizic, &#537;i psihic, e bine ca de la &#238;nceput s&#259; comunic&#259;m clar pacientului c&#226;teva informa&#539;ii. Cine e navigatorul, ce poate &#537;i nu poate face, care sunt limitele confiden&#539;ialit&#259;&#539;ii, ce fel de date vor fi colectate &#537;i cum vor fi folosite, care sunt canalele de comunicare, &#238;n ce intervale poate primi r&#259;spuns.</span></p><p><span>&#8212; E o idee bun&#259; s&#259; set&#259;m r&#259;spunsuri prestabilite pe WhatsApp?, a &#238;ntrebat una dintre participante.</span></p><p><span>Discu&#539;ia a continuat pe Zoom mai bine de dou&#259; ore &#537;i jum&#259;tate. Era o sear&#259; de vineri, 15 mai, &#537;i 30 de navigatori medicali se preg&#259;teau pentru examenul de absolvire. Erau la finalul </span><a href="https://bio.unibuc.ro/2025/01/"><span>cursului post-universitar</span></a><span> de la Facultatea de Biologie a Universit&#259;&#539;ii din Bucure&#537;ti, primul de acest fel din &#539;ar&#259;. Cu ei mai erau cinci navigatori cu experien&#539;&#259; care urmau s&#259; &#238;i &#238;ndrume &#238;ntr-o perioad&#259; de practic&#259;.</span></p><p><span>Facilitator era Andi C&#226;rlan, unul dintre cei mai vizibili navigatori de pacien&#539;i, &#537;i una dintre locomotivele unui proces care a &#238;nceput acum doi ani: acela de profesionalizare &#537;i promovare a acestei profesii.</span></p><blockquote><h4><strong><span>Ce este un navigator de pacien&#539;i?</span></strong></h4><p><span>Este </span><strong><span>o punte la intersec&#539;ia dintre sistemul medical, pacient, familie &#537;i sistemul de asigur&#259;ri sociale</span></strong><span>, care ar trebui s&#259; ghideze o persoan&#259; nou-diagnosticat&#259; prin experien&#539;a bolii.</span></p><p><span>Navigatorul de pacien&#539;i a ap&#259;rut &#238;n SUA &#238;n anii &#8217;90, pentru a lupta cu disparit&#259;&#539;ile &#238;n &#238;ngrijirea bolnavilor de cancer, dar azi exist&#259; navigatori pentru mai multe afec&#539;iuni &#537;i pentru diferite segmente din traseu, de la preven&#539;ie, la palia&#539;ie.</span></p><p><span>Nu e obligatoriu s&#259; aib&#259; preg&#259;tire medical&#259;, dar este esen&#539;ial s&#259; fi absolvit un program de formare acreditat.</span></p></blockquote><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><h4><strong><span>Ce face navigatorul de pacien&#539;i?</span></strong></h4><ul><li><p>nu se substituie medicului, ci este o interfa&#539;&#259; &#238;ntre acesta &#537;i pacient;</p></li><li><p>e responsabil s&#259;-i explice corect informa&#539;ii medicale;</p></li><li><p>&#238;l ajut&#259; s&#259; g&#259;seasc&#259; variante de tratament &#238;n &#539;ar&#259; &#537;i/sau afar&#259;, s&#259; fac&#259; program&#259;ri &#537;i s&#259; preg&#259;teasc&#259; dosarul medical;</p></li><li><p>&#238;l ajut&#259; s&#259; g&#259;seasc&#259; medici de alte specialit&#259;&#539;i pentru evalu&#259;rile ini&#539;iale, pentru c&#259; nu &#238;n toate spitalele exist&#259; echipe multidisciplinare de management al bolii oncologice;</p></li><li><p>&#238;l ajut&#259; s&#259; acceseze alte tipuri de &#238;ngrijire (transport, cazare, consiliere psihologic&#259;, nutri&#539;ional&#259;, kinetoterapie, palia&#539;ie &#537;i hospice), &#537;i asta pentru c&#259; nevoile unui pacient &#537;i ale familiei dep&#259;&#537;esc &#238;ntotdeauna zona medical&#259;;</p></li><li><p>foarte important: conform legii din Rom&#226;nia, <strong>un pacient internat poate chiar s&#259; desemneze un navigator <a href="/__u/open.substack.com/pub/sorana/p/tu-decizi-cine-are-acces-la-informatiile?r=8k6pm&amp;utm_campaign=post&amp;utm_medium=web">s&#259;-l reprezinte &#238;n rela&#539;ia</a> cu </strong><em><strong>acel</strong></em><strong> spital &#537;i cu autorit&#259;&#539;ile</strong> (Casa de S&#259;n&#259;tate sau Ministerul), pe perioada intern&#259;rii. &#536;i asta e esen&#539;ial, pentru c&#259; navigatorul &#537;tie &#537;i drepturile pacientului, &#537;i ce documente s&#259; cear&#259; &#537;i s&#259; depun&#259;.</p></li></ul></div><p><span>Pe scurt, un navigator </span><strong><span>g&#259;se&#537;te solu&#539;ii &#537;i &#238;i c&#226;&#537;tig&#259; timp pacientului</span></strong><span>, dar &#537;i medicului (pentru c&#259; acesta vine cu un dosar medical bine organizat &#537;i, fiind informat, accept&#259; mai u&#537;or tratamentul).</span></p><p><strong><span>Ce nu face un navigator</span></strong><span>: nu d&#259; bani direct pacientului, nu &#238;i g&#259;se&#537;te sponsori &#537;i nu pl&#259;te&#537;te servicii &#238;n numele lui. Dac&#259; se implic&#259; sau nu &#238;n campanii publice de fundraising e o discu&#539;ie, unii o fac, majoritatea nu, dar &#238;i ajut&#259; pe oameni cu alternative, precum variante de cazare pentru familie &#238;n timpul unui tratament &#238;n str&#259;in&#259;tate.</span></p><p><span>Navigatorii pot fi angaja&#539;i ai unui spital, ai unei asocia&#539;ii sau pot lucra pe cont propriu, pro bono sau pentru un tarif fix, indiferent c&#226;t dureaz&#259; p&#226;n&#259; se rezolv&#259; nevoia pacientului.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Y3m5!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4a46012f-845d-45f1-aca3-f70b1c15c76b_1456x1048.heic" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Y3m5!, 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17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">A&#537;a sun&#259; unele dintre mesajele pe care le primesc navigatorii de pacien&#539;i.</figcaption></figure></div><p></p><h3><strong><span>Primul curs post-universitar de navigatori de pacien&#539;i</span></strong></h3><p><span>Cei 30 de cursan&#539;i se adaug&#259; celor 50-60 din celelalte trei promo&#539;ii &#537;i, de&#537;i nu fac to&#539;i navigare &#238;n mod activ, to&#539;i au avut o nevoie de a &#238;n&#539;elege mai bine cum &#238;i pot ajuta pe al&#539;ii &#238;n traseul bolii: unii sunt fo&#537;ti pacien&#539;i, al&#539;ii sunt asisten&#539;i medicali sau medici, mul&#539;i juri&#537;ti, dar au fost &#537;i doi manageri de spitale &#537;i doi reprezentan&#539;i de la Casa Na&#539;ional&#259;, respectiv o Cas&#259; Jude&#539;ean&#259; de S&#259;n&#259;tate.</span></p><p><span>&#206;ns&#259;&#537;i ini&#539;iatoarea programului, conf. univ. dr. Bianca G&#259;l&#259;&#539;eanu, a parcurs integral programul &#238;n 2025, dup&#259; ce a renun&#539;at temporar la predare &#537;i la a-l coordona, tocmai ca s&#259; aib&#259; at&#226;t experien&#539;a cursantului, c&#226;t &#537;i, ulterior, a practicantului, &#537;i s&#259;-&#537;i dea seama ce ar putea &#238;mbun&#259;t&#259;&#539;i.</span></p><p><span>Bianca a absolvit Facultatea de Biochimie &#537;i apoi Farmacia, a intrat &#238;n mediul universitar &#537;i de vreo 12 ani a construit o direc&#539;ie de cercetare &#238;n oncologie la Facultatea de Biologie. Despre navigatorii de pacien&#539;i a aflat &#238;n 2022 de la Alina Com&#259;nescu, un navigator cu 15 ani de experien&#539;&#259; &#537;i certific&#259;ri &#238;n afara &#539;&#259;rii, &#537;i s-a g&#226;ndit c&#259; ar putea fi o op&#539;iune de carier&#259; pentru studen&#539;ii ei.</span></p><p><span>Bianca a creat &#537;i acreditat planul de &#238;nv&#259;&#539;&#259;m&#226;nt &#537;i a invitat formatorii potrivi&#539;i, de la psihologi la medici &#537;i cadre universitare, astfel c&#259; azi programul se desf&#259;&#537;oar&#259; &#238;n parteneriat cu Universitatea de Medicin&#259; &#8222;Carol Davilla&#8221; din Bucure&#537;ti.</span></p><p><span>Programul preg&#259;te&#537;te navigatori pentru orice afec&#539;iune cronic&#259;, nu doar oncologie, ba chiar pentru alte zone &#8211; un absolvent lucreaz&#259; &#238;n fertilizarea in vitro, de exemplu. &#206;n timp, cursul s-a tot &#238;mbun&#259;t&#259;&#539;it: acum, fiecare disciplin&#259; e &#539;inut&#259; de mai mul&#539;i formatori, au introdus &#537;i examen oral la absolvire, iar &#238;n cele 120 de ore de practic&#259; au trecut de la a analiza cazuri la seminarii, la a face practic&#259; obligatorie &#537;i a interac&#539;iona &#537;i cu pacien&#539;ii, sub &#238;ndrumarea unui mentor.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YCas!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F49c6223c-8972-4ea7-a695-a0003c943dd6_1456x1048.heic" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YCas!, /__u/sorana.substack.com/w_424, /__u/sorana.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/sorana.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/sorana.substack.com/q_auto:good, 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at&#226;tea altele. Dar ce e special la el e &#8222;bolovanul&#8221; pe care a reu&#537;it s&#259;-l urneasc&#259; aduc&#226;nd oameni &#238;mpreun&#259;: unii navigatori cu experien&#539;&#259; au fost invita&#539;i s&#259; &#539;in&#259; cursuri, iar al&#539;ii care f&#259;ceau navigare, dar nu se cuno&#537;teau to&#539;i &#238;ntre ei, precum Andi, Monica Althamer &#537;i Elena Albu au fost printre primii absolven&#539;i &#537;i apoi au pus bazele </span><a href="https://asociatiacompas.ro/"><span>COMPAS</span></a><span>, prima asocia&#539;ie a navigatorilor de pacien&#539;i, care anul trecut a f&#259;cut primul </span><strong><a href="https://asociatiacompas.ro/navigatori-pacienti/"><span>registru na&#539;ional al navigatorilor certifica&#539;i</span></a><span> </span></strong><span>din Rom&#226;nia.</span></p><p><span>Practic, p&#226;n&#259; acum, &#537;i dac&#259; &#537;tiai c&#259; exist&#259; navigatori (lucru aproape necunoscut la noi), &#238;i c&#259;utai </span><em><span>in blind</span></em><span> pe net &#537;i mergeai dup&#259; recomand&#259;ri. Acum, odat&#259; cu Registrul, exist&#259; un prim filtru care &#238;&#539;i arat&#259; cine e navigator calificat &#537;i cine nu. &#206;nscri&#537;i &#238;n momentul de fa&#539;&#259; sunt 42, pe diverse patologii.</span></p><p><span>(E adev&#259;rat &#238;ns&#259; c&#259; Registrul nu are valoare de lege: po&#539;i profesa &#537;i f&#259;r&#259; s&#259; fii &#238;nscris, &#537;i po&#539;i fi &#238;n Registru, f&#259;r&#259; s&#259; profesezi &#8211; &#238;n cazul &#259;sta, nu &#238;i vei g&#259;si datele de contact pe site, doar numele).<br></span></p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Dac&#259; &#238;&#539;i sunt de folos aceste informa&#539;ii, sus&#539;ine Foaia de observa&#539;ie cu un abonament pl&#259;tit. Dac&#259; ai deja unul, &#238;&#539;i mul&#539;umesc.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h3>Elena</h3><p><span>Elena Albu este azi unul dintre pilonii COMPAS. E specializat&#259; &#238;n traduceri tehnice, juridice &#537;i medicale, &#537;i &#238;mpreun&#259; cu so&#539;ul ei, medic &#238;n nutri&#539;ie oncologic&#259; &#537;i oncologie molecular&#259;, a deschis &#238;n 2011 un centru de dietetic&#259; &#537;i nutri&#539;ie pentru pacien&#539;ii cu cancer, &#238;ntr-o vreme c&#226;nd nimeni la noi nu se g&#226;ndea la importan&#539;a acesteia.</span></p><p><span>&#206;n timp, au &#238;nceput s&#259; le vin&#259; cazuri tot mai grave, care nu mai aveau solu&#539;ie &#238;n Rom&#226;nia, &#537;i pentru care au &#238;nceput s&#259; caute studii clinice &#537;i terapii personalizate &#238;n afar&#259;. &#536;i-au creat conexiuni &#238;n Spania, Germania sau Italia &#537;i p&#226;n&#259; &#238;n 2019 au orientat sute de oameni, gratuit &#8211; practic, oamenii veneau pentru serviciile de nutri&#539;ie oncologic&#259; contra cost, dar primeau gratis aceast&#259; parte de navigare.</span></p><p><span>De&#537;i a f&#259;cut cursuri de navigator &#238;n afara &#539;&#259;rii, Elena a sim&#539;it nevoia s&#259; aib&#259; &#537;i legitimitatea celui oferit de Facultatea de Biologie, iar acum &#539;ine &#537;i un curs &#238;n cadrul lui.</span></p><h3><strong><span>Andi</span></strong></h3><p><span>Andi C&#226;rlan avea 36 de ani c&#226;nd a fost diagnosticat cu cancer de colon, &#238;nt&#226;mpl&#259;tor &#8211; dona frecvent s&#226;nge &#537;i analizele premerg&#259;toare i-au ie&#537;it prost. &#8222;Aveam doi copii mici, eram corporatist&#8221;, &#238;&#537;i aminte&#537;te Andi. &#8222;S&#259; nu fiu anemic, s&#259; nu fiu obosit, s&#259; nu am dureri de stomac ar fi fost cumva ciudat.&#8221; </span></p><p><span>Lucra chiar &#238;n domeniul asigur&#259;rilor private de s&#259;n&#259;tate &#537;i, &#238;n paralel, str&#226;ngea fonduri pentru diverse cauze umanitare, f&#259;cea campanii de donare de s&#226;nge, dar nu s-a g&#226;ndit niciodat&#259; c&#259; va ajunge chiar el s&#259; aib&#259; nevoie de ajutor.</span></p><p><span>A sim&#539;it pe pielea lui neputin&#539;a c&#226;nd, dup&#259; diagnostic, un medic din privat i-a spus: &#8222;G&#259;si&#539;i-v&#259; un oncolog&#8221;. Cum, unde? &#8222;Nu &#537;tiu, v&#259; descurca&#539;i, nu putem face astfel de recomand&#259;ri.&#8221;</span></p><p><span>Un prieten l-a pus &#238;n contact cu navigatorii Monica Althamer &#537;i Silvia Coman (un medic care anul trecut a murit chiar de cancer). Andi a aflat relativ repede c&#259; &#537;ansele lui de vindecare sunt aproape inexistente &#537;i c&#259; tratamentul nu poate fi curativ, ci doar paliativ: &#8222;&#536;i atunci mi-am zis c&#259; at&#226;t c&#226;t mai tr&#259;iesc, vreau s&#259; ajut c&#226;t mai mul&#539;i oameni s&#259; &#238;nving&#259; boala&#8221;.</span></p><p><span>Pentru c&#259; era destul de vizibil pe Facebook &#537;i &#238;nc&#259; de la &#238;nceput &#537;i-a povestit tot parcursul de boal&#259;, &#238;n 2020 au &#238;nceput s&#259;-l caute pacien&#539;i pentru ajutor. Printre primii a fost un adolescent din Alba Iulia, cu o form&#259; agresiv&#259; de cancer, care a murit la scurt timp, iar asta l-a trimis &#238;ntr-o depresie sever&#259;, din care a ie&#537;it dup&#259; mult&#259; terapie. Cursul de navigator l-a f&#259;cut patru ani mai t&#226;rziu, &#238;n prima genera&#539;ie.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mFB0!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F96c668da-4fcf-4211-b341-8976c896da99_1456x1048.heic" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mFB0!, /__u/sorana.substack.com/w_424, /__u/sorana.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/sorana.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/sorana.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/sorana.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F96c668da-4fcf-4211-b341-8976c896da99_1456x1048.heic 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mFB0!, /__u/sorana.substack.com/w_848, /__u/sorana.substack.com/c_limit, 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Schimb de mesaje &#238;ntre navigatorii din NaviCare. 2. Andi vrea s&#259; centralizeze toate resursele/solu&#539;iile &#238;ntr-o baz&#259; de date.</figcaption></figure></div><p></p><h3><strong><span>Monica</span></strong></h3><p><span>&#8222;Naviga&#539;ia e o meserie voca&#539;ional&#259; care vine cu recompense suflete&#537;ti, psihice, extraordinar de mari&#8221;, spune Monica Althamer, &#8222;dar vine &#537;i cu o durere foarte mare. Preiei un om, te ata&#537;ezi, nu ai cum s&#259; nu fii afectat de toata suferin&#539;a pe care o vezi&#8221;.</span></p><p><span>De aceea nu e suficient s&#259; ai studii juridice sau medicale ca s&#259; devii navigator, ci trebuie s&#259; &#238;n&#539;elegi toate dimensiunile acestui rol, ca s&#259; nu ajungi s&#259; faci r&#259;u &#8211; nici omului din fa&#539;a ta, dar nici &#539;ie, epuiz&#226;ndu-te. &#536;i de aceea niciun curs nu va fi niciodat&#259; suficient, f&#259;r&#259; ani &#537;i ani de experien&#539;&#259; &#238;n teren &#537;i lucru cu pacien&#539;ii.</span></p><p><span>Monica a studiat teologie, a fost de dou&#259; ori secretar de stat &#238;n Ministerul S&#259;n&#259;t&#259;&#539;ii ca tehnocrat, unde a contribuit la completarea legisla&#539;iei privind drepturile pacientului (despre o parte </span><a href="/__u/open.substack.com/pub/sorana/p/tu-decizi-cine-are-acces-la-informatiile?r=8k6pm&amp;utm_campaign=post&amp;utm_medium=web"><span>am scris aici</span></a><span>), &#537;i este navigator pentru pacien&#539;i cu cancer &#537;i arsuri grave de 15 ani, &#238;n diferite asocia&#539;ii.</span></p><h3><strong><span>NaviCare</span></strong></h3><p><span>&#206;n 2024, c&#226;nd a f&#259;cut &#537;i ea cursul, Monica lucra (&#537;i lucreaz&#259; &#238;n continuare) la </span><a href="https://www.fundatiametropolis.ro/"><span>Funda&#539;ia Metropolis</span></a><span>, cea care renoveaz&#259; spitale &#537;i construie&#537;te unul de psihiatrie pediatric&#259;. Naviga pacien&#539;i cu afec&#539;iuni grave, dar proiectul NaviCare nu exista &#238;nc&#259;. O postare a fondatorului Codin Maticiuc &#8222;a aruncat totul &#238;n aer&#8221;.</span></p><p><span>&#206;n 2025 a scris despre cum tat&#259;l lui, bolnav de cancer, avea nevoie de protonoterapie, care nu se face &#238;n Rom&#226;nia &#537;i care ar fi costat 50.000 de euro &#238;n str&#259;in&#259;tate. Monica l-a consiliat astfel &#238;nc&#226;t s&#259;-l fac&#259; gratuit, &#238;n baza legisla&#539;iei rom&#226;ne&#537;ti, care oblig&#259; statul s&#259; deconteze terapii care nu sunt disponibile &#238;n &#539;ar&#259;.</span></p><p><span>A&#537;a c&#259; a folosit acei 50.000 de euro ca s&#259; lanseze, &#238;mpreun&#259; cu Monica, </span><a href="https://www.fundatiametropolis.ro/navicare/"><span>NaviCare</span></a><span>, un proiect prin care oamenii completeaz&#259; un formular online &#537;i pot primi gratuit sprijin informa&#539;ional, emo&#539;ional &#537;i, &#238;n mod excep&#539;ional, financiar.</span></p><p><span>&#206;n c&#226;teva zile s-au str&#226;ns sute de cazuri. Atunci au intervenit s&#259; preia din cazuri &#537;i Andi, Elena &#537;i o coleg&#259; din Sibiu &#537;i pe parcurs s-au mai ad&#259;ugat colegi. Azi sunt 25, organiza&#539;i dibace de Andi, care a trecut de la navigare la coordonarea echipei de voluntari.</span></p><p><span>&#206;n 14 luni au preluat peste 2.000 de cazuri. Unele au fost punctuale &#537;i au putut fi rezolvate pe loc sau &#238;n c&#226;teva zile, dar altele dureaz&#259; luni &#238;ntregi &#8211; iar asta e valabil pentru navigarea de pacien&#539;i, &#238;n general, pentru c&#259; tratamentul e lung &#537;i complex, uneori exist&#259; recidive, alteori se ajunge la palia&#539;ie.</span></p><p><span>Acum nu mai exist&#259; cazuri &#238;n a&#537;teptare. Ba mai mult, sunt navigatori califica&#539;i care a&#537;teapt&#259; s&#259; lucreze pro bono &#238;n NaviCare, dar deocamdat&#259; asta e dimensiunea care poate fi gestionat&#259;. Iar accesul nu e chiar u&#537;or: interviu, acorduri GDPR pe care trebuie s&#259; le semneze, cazier, certificat de integritate care trebuie ob&#539;inut la fiecare &#537;ase luni (arat&#259; c&#259; nu sunt &#238;n registrul infractorilor sexuali).</span></p><p><span>Nici NaviCare, nici COMPAS nu au un birou, toat&#259; munca e remote, a&#537;a cum &#537;i rela&#539;ia lor cu pacien&#539;ii are loc la distan&#539;&#259;, &#238;n multe ore pe telefon &#537;i email.</span></p><h3></h3><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Munca la acest articol a fost sus&#539;inut&#259; de un grant, dar asta e o excep&#539;ie. Munca mea de zi cu zi are nevoie de sus&#539;inerea ta.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h3><strong><span>Circuitul</span></strong></h3><p><span>Azi, cursan&#539;ii de la post-universitar fac practic&#259; cu navigatori din NaviCare: observ&#259; tot procesul, caut&#259; resurse, preg&#259;tesc cazul &#238;mpreun&#259; &#537;i ajung inevitabil s&#259; descurce acelea&#537;i dileme etice: sunt disponibil la orice or&#259; sau pun ni&#537;te limite?, Ce fac dac&#259; un pacient &#238;mi cere s&#259; &#238;i organizez o campanie de fundraising sau familia are nevoie de bani &#238;n timpul tratamentului &#238;n str&#259;in&#259;tate?.</span></p><p><span>Dup&#259; ce termin&#259; cursul, unii devin voluntari activi &#238;n NaviCare. Intr&#259; astfel &#238;ntr-o re&#539;ea &#537;i reu&#537;esc s&#259; g&#259;seasc&#259; solu&#539;ii mult mai repede, un aspect esen&#539;ial pentru Monica, Elena &#537;i Andi.</span></p><p><span>&#8222;Ini&#539;ial m&#259; sim&#539;eam ca o oaie r&#259;t&#259;cit&#259;&#8221;, &#238;&#537;i aminte&#537;te Andi.</span></p><div class="pullquote"><p style="text-align: center;"><em><span>&#8222;Aveam diploma, dar la stat nu puteam s&#259; m&#259; angajez, la privat nu puteam s&#259; m&#259; angajez, am c&#259;utat o asocia&#539;ie, colegiu, ceva, unde s&#259; m&#259; &#238;nscriu. Nu exista.&#8221;</span></em></p></div><p><span>&#536;i a&#537;a, cei trei au fondat COMPAS.</span></p><p><span>COMPAS nu ofer&#259; servicii de navigare, ci e o asocia&#539;ie-umbrel&#259; pentru navigatorii cu diplom&#259;, care se ocup&#259; de formare continu&#259;, reprezentare &#537;i lobby, &#238;n care azi sunt &#238;nscri&#537;i nu doar absolven&#539;i ai cursului de la Biologie, ci &#537;i navigatori care au f&#259;cut alte &#537;coli, precum </span><a href="https://www.amazonia-navigators.ro/"><span>Amazonia Navigators</span></a><span>. </span></p><p><span>Primul proiect al COMPAS a fost registrul navigatorilor, un fel de &#8222;Paginii aurii&#8221;, explic&#259; Andi &#238;n stilu-i caracteristic &#8211; pragmatic, u&#537;or ironic, amuzant.</span></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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vizibilit&#259;&#539;ii &#537;i transparentizare, la &#238;ncerc&#259;ri de profesionalizare (norme, reguli, reglementare) &#8211; o zon&#259; &#238;n care vor trebuie &#238;ns&#259; s&#259; se a&#537;eze la aceea&#537;i mas&#259; &#537;i cu ceilal&#539;i actori esen&#539;iali: Amazonia, Alina Com&#259;nescu, nou-&#238;nfiin&#539;atul <a href="https://www.amazonia-navigators.ro/">Ordin al navigatorilor</a> sau al&#539;i furnizori acredita&#539;i de formare profesional&#259;.</p><p>Ordinul a fost creat &#238;n 2025, tot de Victoria Asanache, fondatoarea Amazonia, cu scopul pe care-l are &#537;i COMPAS, de a reuni navigatorii califica&#539;i.</p><h3><strong><span>Limite</span></strong></h3><p><span>&#8222;C&#226;t o s&#259; mai fii aici?&#8221;, e &#238;ntrebat&#259; Monica de pacien&#539;i bulversa&#539;i.</span></p><p><span>&#8222;At&#226;ta timp c&#226;t are nevoie pacientul &#537;i c&#226;t &#238;&#537;i dore&#537;te asta&#8221;, r&#259;spunde. Pentru ea nu prea exist&#259; limite de timp sau disponibilitate, dar &#238;i sf&#259;tuie&#537;te pe viitorii navigatori s&#259;-&#537;i stabileasc&#259; aceste limite singuri.</span></p><p><span>Primul ei pacient avea 3 ani &#537;i jum&#259;tate, acum are 19, &#537;i i-a devenit, practic, familie. Cu multe familii p&#259;streaz&#259; leg&#259;tura, indiferent dac&#259; tratamentul a fost fericit sau nu. Pentru navigatori, spre deosebire de psihologi, nu exist&#259; regula c&#259; nu pot dep&#259;&#537;i bariera profesional&#259;, iar medicul nu poate &#537;i nu ar trebui s&#259; ofere &#537;i suport emo&#539;ional dincolo de ni&#537;te limite.</span></p><p><span>Mai mult, d&#259; exemplu Monica, sunt &#238;ntreb&#259;ri pe care oamenii nu &#238;ndr&#259;znesc s&#259; le pun&#259; medicilor, &#537;i exact aici intervin navigatorii: &#206;mi va c&#259;dea p&#259;rul dintr-o dat&#259;, dup&#259; prima perfuzie cu citostatice? Doare c&#226;nd cade?.</span></p><p><span>Ea s-a hot&#259;r&#226;t s&#259; devin&#259; navigator dup&#259; mai multe vizite la urgen&#539;&#259; cu fiica ei, c&#226;nd, de fric&#259;, se transforma &#238;ntr-un robot &#8211; p&#259;rea c&#259; &#238;nregistreaz&#259; ce-i spune medicul, coopera, dar acas&#259; uita tot: &#8222;M&#259; g&#226;ndeam, Doamne, dac&#259; mai sunt &#537;i al&#539;i oameni care tr&#259;iesc aceast&#259; stare de &#537;oc care se instaleaz&#259; c&#226;nd ajunge o persoan&#259; &#238;n halat alb l&#226;ng&#259; ei &#537;i &#238;ncepe s&#259; proceseze informa&#539;ia deformat, &#238;nseamn&#259; c&#259; po&#539;i s&#259; aju&#539;i doar fiind mintea aia limpede de l&#226;ng&#259; cineva&#8221;.</span></p><p><span>&#536;i a ales s&#259; fie ea mintea aceea limpede.<br></span></p><blockquote><h4><strong><span>Cum devii navigator de pacien&#539;i certificat?</span></strong></h4><p><span>Profesia exist&#259; &#238;n Codul Ocupa&#539;iilor (COR) din 2017, dar de abia &#238;n ultimii ani am &#238;nceput s&#259; auzim de navigatori, pe de o parte pentru c&#259; &#238;n spitalele de stat ei nu exist&#259;, iar cele private au &#238;nceput recent s&#259;-i promoveze (de&#537;i aici e o &#238;ntreag&#259; discu&#539;ie dac&#259; aceia sunt navigatori &#238;n adev&#259;ratul sens al cuv&#226;ntului sau mai degrab&#259; </span><em><span>concierge </span></em><span>medicali care te orienteaz&#259; &#238;n interiorul re&#539;elei lor).</span></p><p><span>Pe de alt&#259; parte, profesia are &#238;nc&#259; nevoie s&#259; fie reglementat&#259; mai strict.</span></p><p><span>Demersul de introducere &#238;n COR l-a f&#259;cut Asocia&#539;ia Amazonia, &#238;nfiin&#539;at&#259; de primul navigator din Rom&#226;nia care s-a certificat &#238;n SUA, Victoria Asanache. Ulterior, Amazonia a elaborat standardul ocupa&#539;ional, adic&#259; nivelul de instruire, cuno&#537;tin&#539;e &#537;i experien&#539;&#259; pe care un navigator e obligatoriu s&#259; le aib&#259;, &#537;i curricula de preg&#259;tire pentru zona oncologic&#259;, &#238;n care activeaz&#259; fondatoarea, &#537;i le-a autorizat la Ministerul Muncii.</span></p><p><span>Din acel moment, &#537;i al&#539;i furnizori de formare profesional&#259; pentru adul&#539;i sau asocia&#539;ii &#537;i-au putut crea programele proprii de preg&#259;tire, pe care le-au acreditat la Ministerul Muncii, pentru a forma ele &#238;nsele navigatori &#8211; e cazul </span><a href="https://arnis.ong/"><span>Asocia&#539;iei ARNIS</span></a><span>, care a f&#259;cut un program &#238;n domeniul s&#259;n&#259;t&#259;&#539;ii mamei &#537;i a copilului, specialitatea ei, &#537;i a format 10 navigatori care s&#259; lucreze &#238;n maternit&#259;&#539;i &#537;i s&#259;-i ajute pe p&#259;rin&#539;ii copiilor prematuri.</span></p><p><span>Ca s&#259; te po&#539;i angaja ca navigator de pacien&#539;i, &#238;&#539;i trebuie obligatoriu facultate &#537;i cinci ani de experien&#539;&#259; de munc&#259;, &#238;n orice domeniu, dintre care doi &#238;n s&#259;n&#259;tate, asisten&#539;&#259; social&#259; sau management de caz (e acceptat &#537;i voluntariatul).</span></p><h4><strong><span>C&#226;&#539;i formatori &#537;i c&#226;&#539;i navigatori exist&#259; &#238;n Rom&#226;nia</span></strong></h4><p><span>Azi exist&#259; patru organiza&#539;ii care formeaz&#259; navigatori califica&#539;i (printre care &#537;i Facultatea de Biologie) &#537;i 274 de persoane care au absolvit, conform Ministerului Muncii. (&#206;n pia&#539;&#259; mai sunt &#537;i al&#539;ii care au experien&#539;&#259; &#537;i poate sunt competen&#539;i, dar nu au o diplom&#259; recunoscut&#259; de Ministerul Muncii, ca ace&#537;ti 274.)</span></p><p><span>Angajate pe post de navigator sunt 60 de persoane, spune Ministerul. Ceilal&#539;i ori nu profeseaz&#259;, ori nu sunt angaja&#539;i pe acest post.</span></p></blockquote><h3><strong><span>Cum g&#259;sesc navigatorii &#8222;cei mai buni&#8221; medici</span></strong></h3><p><span>Nevoia fireasc&#259; a oric&#259;rui pacient, mai ales c&#226;nd are un diagnostic care-i amenin&#539;&#259; via&#539;a, este s&#259; mearg&#259; la </span><em><span>cei mai buni </span></em><span>medici, c&#226;t mai repede, pentru </span><em><span>cel mai bun</span></em><span> tratament. Iar &#238;ntrebarea fireasc&#259; e: de unde &#537;tiu navigatorii cine sunt ace&#537;ti &#8222;cei mai buni&#8221;?</span></p><p><span>Evident c&#259; nu exist&#259; ierarhii oficiale, dar navigatorii &#537;tiu de la congrese, din reviste &#537;tiin&#539;ifice, de la asocia&#539;iile profesionale &#537;i prin networking ce medici au supraspecializ&#259;ri sau experien&#539;&#259; mai mare &#238;n </span><em><span>ce</span></em><span>, ce medici sunt implica&#539;i &#238;n studii clinice sau ce tratamente inovatoare au mai ap&#259;rut &#537;i cum le po&#539;i ob&#539;ine.</span></p><p><span>Ba mai mult, &#537;i navigatorii s-ar putea ni&#537;a pe tipuri de patologii, crede Alina Com&#259;nescu: &#8222;Gradul de &#238;nnoire a protocoalelor &#537;i a tipurilor de tratament oncologic este at&#226;t de mare, &#238;nc&#226;t nu po&#539;i s&#259; spui c&#259; navighezi </span><em><span>tot</span></em><span>.&#8221;</span></p><p><span>&#8222;Performan&#539;a e legat&#259; de ceea ce tu &#238;nve&#539;i &#238;n fiecare zi&#8221;, subliniaz&#259; &#537;i Victoria Asanache, &#8222;&#537;i eu la v&#226;rsta mea &#238;nv&#259;&#539; &#238;n fiecare zi. </span><strong>Acum 25 de ani, ghidurile Societ&#259;&#539;ii Europene de Oncologie Medical&#259; se schimbau o dat&#259; la cinci ani, acum se schimb&#259; lunar</strong><span>, &#537;i tu trebuie s&#259; fii la curent. Pacientul nu vine ca s&#259;-l m&#226;ng&#226;i pe cre&#537;tet &#537;i s&#259;-i spui: </span><em><span>l&#259;sa&#539;i, ave&#539;i cancer, dar o s&#259; v&#259; treac&#259;.</span></em><span>&#8221;</span></p><p><span>De multe ori, navigatorii se consult&#259; cu medici rom&#226;ni despre variantele de tratament din afar&#259;, a&#537;a cum sunt &#537;i medici care &#238;i sun&#259; pe ei pentru pacien&#539;i (fie ca s&#259;-i preia &#238;n navigare, fie ca s&#259; g&#259;seasc&#259; &#238;mpreun&#259; un doctor pentru a doua opinie. Iar aici e important de &#537;tiut c&#259; unii medici ofer&#259; a doua opinie gratuit, al&#539;ii contra cost, at&#226;t la noi, c&#226;t &#537;i &#238;n afar&#259;).</span></p><p><span>Tocmai pentru c&#259; este o profesie aproape necunoscut&#259; la noi, au existat &#537;i critici &#238;n spa&#539;iul public, cum c&#259; &#8222;ar vinde&#8221; pacien&#539;i clinicilor din afar&#259;, ar primi &#8222;parand&#259;r&#259;t&#8221; de la Casele de S&#259;n&#259;tate sau comisioane (ceea ce este complet ne-etic &#537;i negat de to&#539;i navigatorii cu care am vorbit, fie c&#259; lucreaz&#259; pe cont propriu, fie &#238;n asocia&#539;ii).</span></p><div class="captioned-button-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/p/cat-o-sa-mai-fii-aici-ed6?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="CaptionedButtonToDOM"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Trimite articolul familiei &#537;i prietenilor. Mai mul&#539;i dintre noi ar trebui s&#259; &#537;tie de existen&#539;a navigatorilor.</p></div><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/p/cat-o-sa-mai-fii-aici-ed6?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/cat-o-sa-mai-fii-aici-ed6?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p></div><p></p><h3><strong><span>De ce nu sunt navigatori medicali &#238;n spitalele de stat?</span></strong></h3><p><span>Pe de o parte, pentru c&#259; legea e &#238;nvechit&#259;: navigatorul nu e recunoscut ca profesie &#238;n sistemul medical public &#537;i nici &#238;n legea salariz&#259;rii, a&#537;a &#238;nc&#226;t spitalele nu &#238;i pot nici angaja, nici pl&#259;ti. Dar legile de oameni sunt f&#259;cute &#537;i pot fi schimbate, &#537;i aici ar trebui ca navigatorii califica&#539;i s&#259; fac&#259; front comun.</span></p><p><span>Ni&#537;te discu&#539;ii &#238;ntre Amazonia, Ordinul navigatorilor &#537;i COMPAS au existat, dar n-au ajuns s&#259; &#537;i semneze ceva. Cel care conduce acum Ordinul, Irinel Buc&#537;e, a reu&#537;it s&#259; discute cu fostul ministru Rogobete, care s-a ar&#259;tat sus&#539;in&#259;tor al angaj&#259;rii &#238;n spitale, &#537;i a depus un memoriu pentru includerea func&#539;iei de navigator &#238;n lege, cu doar c&#226;teva zile &#238;nainte ca Guvernul s&#259; cad&#259; &#238;n aprilie. Dar de atunci, nimic.</span></p><p><span>Cu toate astea, </span><strong><span>exist&#259; un spital public care a studiat legea &#537;i a angajat un navigator de pacien&#539;i</span></strong><span>: Spitalul Jude&#539;ean de Urgen&#539;&#259; Sibiu. &#8222;&#206;nt&#226;mpl&#259;tor&#8221; sau nu, trei angaja&#539;i ai spitalului f&#259;cuser&#259; cursul de navigatori la Facultatea de Biologie &#537;i &#238;n&#539;eleseser&#259; relevan&#539;a.</span></p><p><span>Spitalul a cerut ordonatorului de credite, Consiliul Jude&#539;ean, s&#259; &#238;nfiin&#539;eze postul &#238;n statul de func&#539;ii &#537;i l-a scos la concurs. Salariul este, conform unei Anexe la Legea salariz&#259;rii, egal cu al unei asistente cu studii superioare. Dup&#259; o prim&#259; &#238;ncercare nereu&#537;it&#259;, postul a fost ocupat &#238;n august 2025.</span></p><p><span>&#536;i mai e un motiv pentru care nu sunt navigatori &#238;n sistemul public: unii medici sunt &#238;n continuare refractari, se tem c&#259; ar fi &#537;i &#8222;verifica&#539;i&#8221; de navigatori &#537;i simt c&#259; &#537;i-ar pierde din autoritate &#238;n fa&#539;a pacien&#539;ilor sau i-ar pierde chiar de tot, &#238;n favoarea str&#259;in&#259;t&#259;&#539;ii.</span></p><p><span>Sistemul e rezistent la schimbare, chiar dac&#259; toate studiile arat&#259; </span><a href="https://iris.who.int/server/api/core/bitstreams/e089c8d2-26a4-48ac-a63f-cd1354fa8fde/content"><span>beneficiile</span></a><span> clare ale unui navigator &#238;n echipa medical&#259;. &#206;n &#539;&#259;ri precum Marea Britanie sau SUA sunt &#238;n spitale navigatori, pl&#259;ti&#539;i fie de ONG-uri, fie de autorit&#259;&#539;i locale, &#238;n func&#539;ie &#537;i de cum e finan&#539;at spitalul respectiv.</span></p><p><span>Monica spune c&#259; &#537;i-ar dori ca Funda&#539;ia Metropolis s&#259;-i poat&#259; pl&#259;ti pe cei 25 de navigatori voluntari, dar nu are bani. Ea este angajat&#259; a Funda&#539;iei, dar pentru alte roluri &#537;i proiecte. Pentru pacien&#539;i &#238;ns&#259;, ajutorul e gratuit.</span></p><p><span>Victoria Asanache ofer&#259; consultan&#539;&#259; &#238;n cadrul unei re&#539;ele private (e pl&#259;tit&#259;, dar nu angajat&#259;, pacien&#539;ii primesc gratuit ajutorul ei &#537;i &#238;i direc&#539;ioneaz&#259; unde crede de cuviin&#539;&#259;). Alina Com&#259;nescu lucreaz&#259; pe cont propriu, are un onorariu de 350 de lei/caz navigat &#238;n Rom&#226;nia, 650 pentru str&#259;in&#259;tate, indiferent c&#226;t dureaz&#259; p&#226;n&#259; intri pe un tratament, iar unele cazuri le face pro bono.</span></p><h3><strong><span>Ce ar mai trebui reglementat</span></strong></h3><p><span>Alina crede c&#259; standardul ocupa&#539;ional ar trebui actualizat &#537;i c&#259; navigarea ar trebui segmentat&#259; pe etape, a&#537;a cum &#238;ncepe s&#259; fie &#537;i &#238;n afar&#259;: navigatori de preven&#539;ie &#537;i screening, de diagnostic, de tratament sau de palia&#539;ie.</span></p><p><span>Dar p&#226;n&#259; acolo, un alt lucru asupra c&#259;ruia &#537;i COMPAS, &#537;i Amazonia, &#537;i Ordinul, &#537;i Alina cad de acord, dar nu s-au a&#537;ezat &#238;nc&#259; &#238;mpreun&#259;, e </span><strong><span>nevoia unui cod deontologic</span></strong><span> al profesiei &#537;i un mod de a sanc&#539;iona derapajele (de exemplu, navigatori care influen&#539;eaz&#259; pacien&#539;ii s&#259; nu fac&#259; tratament).</span></p><p><span>Trebuie ca toat&#259; lumea s&#259; se raporteze la acelea&#537;i reguli, de aceea e nevoie de un for precum Colegiul Psihologilor, iar pentru asta trebuie, cel mai probabil, o lege care s&#259; &#238;nfiin&#539;eze &#537;i s&#259; legitimeze acest Colegiu. Ordinul nu &#537;i-a propus &#537;i nu poate face asta.</span></p><p><span>E nevoie de leadership &#537;i ownership al procesului, &#238;n condi&#539;iile &#238;n care to&#539;i ace&#537;ti stakeholderi au joburi &#537;i zeci de pacien&#539;i &#238;n navigare, sau sunt ei &#238;n&#537;i&#537;i pacien&#539;i, cum e cazul lui Andi. E urm&#259;torul pas pentru acest bulg&#259;re care s-a urnit &#238;n ultimii ani.</span></p><div class="pullquote"><p style="text-align: center;"><em><span>&#8222;P&#226;n&#259; c&#226;nd vor fi pl&#259;ti&#539;i, dac&#259; vor fi pl&#259;ti&#539;i, mul&#539;i navigatori se vor pierde&#8221;, spune Monica.</span></em></p></div><p><span>Navigarea nu e genul de activitate pe care s&#259; o po&#539;i face &#238;n paralel mult timp. Ea &#537;i-a dat demisia de la banc&#259; dup&#259; ce, &#238;n primii ani, petrecea prea multe ore la job consiliind pacien&#539;i.</span></p><p><span>&#206;n Rom&#226;nia, navigarea este o meserie f&#259;r&#259; un viitor imediat, tocmai pentru c&#259; nu te po&#539;i angaja, spun &#537;i Andi, &#537;i Victoria Asanache, iar solu&#539;ia g&#259;sit&#259; la Sibiu nu e scalabil&#259;. Nimeni nu vrea &#238;nc&#259; navigatori &#238;n spitale, pentru c&#259; ar deranja, iar medicii nu &#238;n&#539;eleg ce c&#226;&#537;tig ar fi un navigator &#238;n echipa medical&#259;.</span></p><p><span>Dac&#259; Ministerul &#537;i Casa Na&#539;ional&#259; de S&#259;n&#259;tate ar vrea s&#259; avem navigatori &#238;n spitale, ar face-o, spune Andi, &#537;i nici m&#259;car lipsa banilor nu a fost invocat&#259; ca motiv clar: &#8222;Oficial, toat&#259; lumea &#238;&#537;i dore&#537;te. Oficial, este o idee bun&#259; &#537;i, da, vrem s&#259; o facem. Dar la fel de oficial nu-i las&#259; legea pe care tot ei pot s&#259; o fac&#259;&#8221;.</span></p><p><span>&#8222;P&#226;n&#259; atunci, mesajul meu pentru fiecare genera&#539;ie e s&#259; lucreze &#238;ntr-o comunitate&#8221;, spune Monica, &#8222;pentru c&#259; e &#537;i spre binele pacientului, &#537;i spre binele navigatorului. E foarte greu s&#259; te sim&#539;i singur cu profesia ta&#8221;.</span></p><div><hr></div><p><a href="https://asociatiacompas.ro/"><span>Sus&#539;ine Asocia&#539;ia COMPAS aici</span></a><span>.</span></p><p><a href="https://www.fundatiametropolis.ro/navicare/">Sus&#539;ine proiectul NaviCare aici</a><span>, inclusiv prin SMS la 8835, cu textul: AJUTOR.</span></p><p><em><span>*mesaje ob&#539;inute de la grupul de navigatori NaviCare, asamblate vizual de Oana Barbonie.</span></em></p><p><em><span>Articolul a fost realizat &#238;n cadrul Burselor pentru jurnalism despre filantropie, program realizat de Asocia&#539;ia pentru Rela&#539;ii Comunitare &#537;i sus&#539;inut de Lidl Rom&#226;nia. </span></em></p><p><em><span>O variant&#259; mai ampl&#259; a acestui articol </span></em><a href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/cat-o-sa-mai-fii-aici?r=8k6pm"><span>g&#259;se&#537;ti aici</span></a><em><span>.</span></em></p><p><span>Mul&#539;umesc, pe cur&#226;nd!</span></p><p><span>Sorana</span></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Navigatorii de pacienți depășesc obstacole și câștigă timp]]></title><description><![CDATA[O facultate &#537;i dou&#259; ONG-uri ajut&#259; la profesionalizarea navigatorilor medicali, o nou&#259; breasl&#259; care ajut&#259; pacien&#539;ii s&#259; parcurg&#259; traseul bolii.]]></description><link>https://sorana.substack.com/p/cat-o-sa-mai-fii-aici</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://sorana.substack.com/p/cat-o-sa-mai-fii-aici</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Sorana Stănescu]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2026 13:38:09 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hX5-!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd24a0f92-11c5-4648-bb9c-b0034a71f3c2_1456x1048.heic" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>O facultate &#537;i dou&#259; ONG-uri ajut&#259; la profesionalizarea navigatorilor medicali, o nou&#259; breasl&#259; care ajut&#259; pacien&#539;ii s&#259; parcurg&#259; traseul bolii. <br></em></p><p><span>&#8212; Ce este navigatorul?, a &#238;ntrebat Andi.</span></p><p><span>&#8212; Nu e medic.</span></p><p><span>&#8212; Nu e psiholog.</span></p><p><span>&#8212; Nu e avocatul pacientului.</span></p><p><span>&#8212; Corect. Navigatorul de pacien&#539;i ofer&#259; sprijin de orientare, informare, organizare &#537;i facilitare a accesului la resurse medicale, sociale, administrative sau comunitare relevante, a completat Andi, &#238;nainte de a vorbi despre setarea cadrului de lucru: Nivelul de stres, de burnout, de &#238;nc&#259;rcare este foarte mare. S&#259; r&#259;spunde&#539;i la telefon la 12 noaptea nu e interzis, dar, ca s&#259; r&#259;m&#226;nem to&#539;i s&#259;n&#259;to&#537;i &#537;i fizic, &#537;i psihic, e bine ca de la &#238;nceput s&#259; comunic&#259;m clar pacientului c&#226;teva informa&#539;ii. Cine e navigatorul, ce poate &#537;i nu poate face, care sunt limitele confiden&#539;ialit&#259;&#539;ii, ce fel de date vor fi colectate &#537;i cum vor fi folosite, care sunt canalele de comunicare, &#238;n ce intervale poate primi r&#259;spuns.</span></p><p><span>&#8212; E o idee bun&#259; s&#259; set&#259;m r&#259;spunsuri prestabilite pe WhatsApp?, a &#238;ntrebat una dintre participante.</span></p><p><span>Discu&#539;ia a continuat pe Zoom mai bine de dou&#259; ore &#537;i jum&#259;tate. Era o sear&#259; de vineri, 15 mai, &#537;i 30 de navigatori medicali se preg&#259;teau pentru examenul de absolvire. La final au dezb&#259;tut c&#226;teva cazuri care solicitaser&#259; ajutor, &#238;nainte ca fiecare s&#259; primeasc&#259; un caz &#537;i s&#259; fie alocat unui mentor cu experien&#539;&#259;.</span></p><p><span>Cei 30 erau la finalul cursului post-universitar de navigatori de pacien&#539;i de la Facultatea de Biologie a Universit&#259;&#539;ii din Bucure&#537;ti, primul de acest fel din &#539;ar&#259;, iar ceilal&#539;i prezen&#539;i erau navigatori cu experien&#539;&#259; care urmau s&#259; &#238;i &#238;ndrume &#238;ntr-o perioad&#259; de practic&#259;. Facilitator era Andi C&#226;rlan, unul dintre cei mai vizibili navigatori de pacien&#539;i, &#537;i una dintre locomotivele unui proces care a &#238;nceput acum doi ani: acela de profesionalizare &#537;i promovare a acestei profesii.</span></p><blockquote><h4><strong><span>Ce este un navigator de pacien&#539;i?</span></strong></h4><p><span>Este o verig&#259;, </span><strong><span>o punte la intersec&#539;ia dintre sistemul medical, pacient, familie &#537;i sistemul de asigur&#259;ri sociale</span></strong><span>, care ar trebui s&#259; ghideze o persoan&#259; nou-diagnosticat&#259; prin experien&#539;a bolii.</span></p><p><span>Navigatorul de pacien&#539;i a ap&#259;rut &#238;n SUA &#238;n anii &#8217;90, pentru a lupta cu disparit&#259;&#539;ile &#238;n &#238;ngrijirea bolnavilor de cancer, dar azi exist&#259; navigatori pentru mai multe afec&#539;iuni, nu doar cancer, &#537;i pentru diferite segmente din traseu, de la preven&#539;ie, la palia&#539;ie. Mai mult, &#238;n oncologie, pentru c&#259; &#537;i tratamentele evolueaz&#259; extrem de rapid, unii navigatori s-au specializat &#238;n anumite tipuri de cancer &#537;i &#537;i-au creat conexiuni printre medicii &#537;i clinicile respective.</span></p><p><span>Nu e obligatoriu s&#259; aib&#259; preg&#259;tire medical&#259;, dar este esen&#539;ial s&#259; fi absolvit un program de formare acreditat.</span></p><h4><strong><span>Ce face navigatorul de pacien&#539;i?</span></strong></h4><ul><li><p><span>nu se substituie medicului, ci este o interfa&#539;&#259; &#238;ntre acesta &#537;i pacient; </span></p></li><li><p><span>e responsabil s&#259;-i explice corect informa&#539;ii medicale; </span></p></li><li><p><span>&#238;l ajut&#259; s&#259; g&#259;seasc&#259; variante de tratament &#238;n &#539;ar&#259; &#537;i/sau afar&#259;, s&#259; fac&#259; program&#259;ri &#537;i s&#259; preg&#259;teasc&#259; dosarul medical;</span></p></li><li><p><span>&#238;l ajut&#259; s&#259; acceseze alte tipuri de &#238;ngrijire (transport, cazare, consiliere psihologic&#259;, nutri&#539;ional&#259;, kinetoterapie, palia&#539;ie &#537;i hospice), &#537;i asta pentru c&#259; nevoile unui pacient &#537;i ale familiei dep&#259;&#537;esc &#238;ntotdeauna zona medical&#259;.</span></p></li></ul><p><span>Navigatorul e cu at&#226;t mai important cu c&#226;t la noi nu toate spitalele au echipe multidisciplinare de management al bolii oncologice &#537;i uneori pacien&#539;ii trebuie </span>s&#259;-&#537;i g&#259;seasc&#259; singur medici de alte specialit&#259;&#539;i pentru evalu&#259;rile ini&#539;iale (cardiologice, endocrinologice etc.)<span>, ca s&#259; ob&#539;in&#259; un tratament personalizat.</span></p><p><span>Pe scurt, un navigator </span><strong><span>g&#259;se&#537;te solu&#539;ii &#537;i c&#226;&#537;tig&#259; timp</span></strong><span>: &#238;i c&#226;&#537;tig&#259; timp medicului, pentru c&#259; pacientul vine cu un dosar medical bine organizat &#537;i, fiind informat, accept&#259; mai u&#537;or tratamentul; &#238;i c&#226;&#537;tig&#259; timp &#537;i pacientului, pentru c&#259;-l ajut&#259; s&#259; g&#259;seasc&#259; repede o a doua opinie, s&#259; fac&#259; analize esen&#539;iale sau s&#259;-&#537;i depun&#259; dosarul pentru tratament &#238;n str&#259;in&#259;tate. (Un studiu din 2010 al National Cancer Institute a ar&#259;tat c&#259; navigarea reduce &#238;nt&#226;rzierile &#238;n tratament cu p&#226;n&#259; la 30% &#537;i asigur&#259; rezultate mai bune pentru pacien&#539;i.)</span></p><p><span>Conform legii din Rom&#226;nia, </span><strong><span>un pacient internat &#238;n spital poate chiar s&#259; desemneze un navigator s&#259;-l reprezinte &#238;n rela&#539;ia cu </span></strong><em><strong><span>acel</span></strong></em><strong><span> spital &#537;i cu autorit&#259;&#539;ile</span></strong><span> (cum ar fi Casa de S&#259;n&#259;tate sau Ministerul). &#536;i asta iar c&#226;&#537;tig&#259; timp, pentru c&#259; navigatorul &#537;tie &#537;i drepturile pacientului, &#537;i ce documente s&#259; cear&#259; &#537;i s&#259; depun&#259;. Iar un navigator ajut&#259; &#537;i sistemul medical, pentru c&#259; unii pacien&#539;i, &#238;n disperare, fac investiga&#539;ii de care nu e nevoie sau merg chiar la urgen&#539;e, inutil.</span></p><p><strong><span>Ce nu face un navigator</span></strong><span> este s&#259; dea bani direct pacientului, s&#259;-i g&#259;seasc&#259; sponsori sau s&#259; pl&#259;teasc&#259; servicii &#238;n numele lui. Dac&#259; se implic&#259; sau nu &#238;n campanii publice de fundraising e o discu&#539;ie, unii o fac, majoritatea nu, dar &#238;i ajut&#259; pe oameni cu alternative, precum variante de cazare pentru familie &#238;n timpul unui tratament &#238;n str&#259;in&#259;tate.</span></p><p><span>Navigatorii pot fi angaja&#539;i ai unui spital, ai unei asocia&#539;ii sau pot lucra pe cont propriu, pro bono sau pentru un tarif fix, indiferent c&#226;t dureaz&#259; p&#226;n&#259; se rezolv&#259; nevoia pacientului.</span></p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!GAmE!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4c4184e1-0c28-4fa9-ba63-2a7f36a8e3e2_1456x1048.heic" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Mesaj de pe grupul de navigatori de pacien&#539;i al NaviCare.</figcaption></figure></div><h3><strong><span><br>Primul curs post-universitar de navigatori de pacien&#539;i</span></strong></h3><p><span>Cei 30 de cursan&#539;i se adaug&#259; celor 50-60 din celelalte trei promo&#539;ii, &#537;i, de&#537;i nu fac to&#539;i navigare &#238;n mod activ, to&#539;i au avut o nevoie de a &#238;n&#539;elege mai bine cum &#238;i pot ajuta pe al&#539;ii &#238;n traseul bolii: unii sunt fo&#537;ti pacien&#539;i, al&#539;ii sunt asisten&#539;i medicali sau medici, mul&#539;i juri&#537;ti, dar au fost &#537;i doi manageri de spitale &#537;i doi reprezentan&#539;i de la Casa Na&#539;ional&#259;, respectiv o Cas&#259; Jude&#539;ean&#259; de S&#259;n&#259;tate.</span></p><p><span>&#8222;Sunt oameni cu experien&#539;&#259; de munc&#259; &#537;i de via&#539;&#259;&#8221;, </span>spune cea care a &#238;nfiin&#539;at programul, conf. univ. dr. Bianca G&#259;l&#259;&#539;eanu. &#8222;<span>Cei mai mul&#539;i au o motiva&#539;ie personal&#259;, vor s&#259; &#238;n&#539;eleag&#259; &#537;i s&#259;-&#537;i structureze informa&#539;ia, nu to&#539;i vor o reconversie profesional&#259; &#537;i nu to&#539;i vor profesa ca navigatori.&#8221;</span></p><p><span>&#536;i ea a parcurs integral programul &#238;n 2025, dup&#259; ce a renun&#539;at temporar la predare &#537;i la a-l coordona, tocmai ca s&#259; aib&#259; at&#226;t experien&#539;a cursantului, c&#226;t &#537;i, ulterior, a practicantului, &#537;i s&#259;-&#537;i dea seama ce ar putea &#238;mbun&#259;t&#259;&#539;i.</span></p><p><span>Bianca a absolvit Facultatea de Biochimie &#537;i apoi Farmacia, a intrat &#238;n mediul universitar &#537;i de vreo 12 ani a construit o direc&#539;ie de cercetare &#238;n oncologie la Facultatea de Biologie. Despre navigatorii de pacien&#539;i a aflat &#238;n 2022 la OncoHub, o conferin&#539;&#259; de oncologie pe care o organizeaz&#259;, de la Alina Com&#259;nescu, un navigator cu 15 ani de experien&#539;&#259; &#537;i certific&#259;ri &#238;n afara &#539;&#259;rii, &#537;i s-a g&#226;ndit c&#259; ar putea fi o op&#539;iune de carier&#259; pentru studen&#539;ii ei, dac&#259; ar vrea s&#259; ias&#259; din laborator &#537;i s&#259; lucreze cu oamenii.</span></p><p><span>Bianca a studiat standardul ocupa&#539;ional care exista din 2017, &#537;i plec&#226;nd de la competen&#539;ele pe care trebuie s&#259; le aib&#259; un navigator, a creat &#537;i acreditat planul de &#238;nv&#259;&#539;&#259;m&#226;nt &#537;i a invitat formatorii potrivi&#539;i, de la psihologi la medici &#537;i cadre universitare, astfel c&#259; azi el se desf&#259;&#537;oar&#259; &#238;n parteneriat cu Universitatea de Medicin&#259; &#8222;Carol Davilla&#8221; din Bucure&#537;ti.</span></p><p><span>&#206;n 2024, Andi a fost contactat tot de Alina Com&#259;nescu, care devenise formator la curs, ca s&#259; fac&#259; ni&#537;te video-uri explicative despre ce &#238;nseamn&#259; navigarea de pacien&#539;i, &#537;i s-a &#238;nscris &#537;i el.</span></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p><span>Programul preg&#259;te&#537;te navigatori pentru orice afec&#539;iune cronic&#259;, nu doar oncologie, ba chiar pentru alte zone &#8211; un absolvent lucreaz&#259; &#238;n fertilizarea in vitro, de exemplu. &#206;n timp, cursul s-a tot &#238;mbun&#259;t&#259;&#539;it: acum, fiecare disciplin&#259; e &#539;inut&#259; de mai mul&#539;i formatori, au introdus &#537;i examen oral la absolvire, iar &#238;n cele 120 de 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17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Cele mai multe cereri de sprijin sunt solu&#539;ionate de navigatorii din NaviCare dup&#259; ce se consult&#259; cu grupul.</figcaption></figure></div><p><span>Ar putea p&#259;rea banal c&#259; exist&#259; un astfel de program post-universitar, doar exist&#259; at&#226;tea altele. Dar ce e special la el e &#8222;bolovanul&#8221; pe care a reu&#537;it s&#259;-l urneasc&#259; aduc&#226;nd oameni &#238;mpreun&#259;: unii navigatori cu experien&#539;&#259; au fost invita&#539;i s&#259; &#539;in&#259; cursuri, iar al&#539;ii care f&#259;ceau navigare, dar nu se cuno&#537;teau to&#539;i &#238;ntre ei, precum Andi, Monica Althamer &#537;i Elena Albu au fost printre primii absolven&#539;i &#537;i apoi au pus bazele </span><a href="https://asociatiacompas.ro"><span>COMPAS</span></a><span>, prima asocia&#539;ie a navigatorilor de pacien&#539;i, care anul trecut a f&#259;cut primul </span><strong><a href="https://asociatiacompas.ro/navigatori-pacienti/"><span>registru na&#539;ional al navigatorilor certifica&#539;i</span></a><span> </span></strong><span>din Rom&#226;nia.</span></p><p><span>Practic, p&#226;n&#259; acum, &#537;i dac&#259; &#537;tiai c&#259; exist&#259; navigatori (lucru aproape necunoscut la noi), &#238;i c&#259;utai </span><em><span>in blind</span></em><span> pe net &#537;i mergeai dup&#259; recomand&#259;ri. Acum, odat&#259; cu Registrul, exist&#259; un prim filtru care &#238;&#539;i arat&#259; cine e navigator calificat &#537;i cine nu. &#206;nscri&#537;i &#238;n momentul de fa&#539;&#259; sunt 42, pe diverse patologii. </span></p><p><span>(E adev&#259;rat &#238;ns&#259; c&#259; Registrul nu are valoare de lege: po&#539;i profesa &#537;i f&#259;r&#259; s&#259; fii &#238;nscris, &#537;i po&#539;i fi &#238;n Registru, f&#259;r&#259; s&#259; profesezi &#8211; &#238;n cazul &#259;sta, nu &#238;i vei g&#259;si datele de contact pe site, doar numele).</span></p><h3><strong><span>Elena</span></strong></h3><p><span>Elena Albu este azi unul dintre pilonii COMPAS. E specializat&#259; &#238;n traduceri tehnice, juridice &#537;i medicale, &#537;i &#238;mpreun&#259; cu so&#539;ul ei, medic &#238;n nutri&#539;ie oncologic&#259; &#537;i oncologie molecular&#259;, a deschis &#238;n 2011 un centru de dietetic&#259; &#537;i nutri&#539;ie pentru pacien&#539;ii cu cancer, &#238;ntr-o vreme c&#226;nd nimeni la noi nu se g&#226;ndea la importan&#539;a acesteia.</span></p><p><span>&#206;n timp, au &#238;nceput s&#259; le vin&#259; cazuri tot mai grave, care nu mai aveau solu&#539;ie &#238;n Rom&#226;nia, &#537;i pentru care au &#238;nceput s&#259; caute studii clinice &#537;i terapii personalizate &#238;n afar&#259;. &#536;i-au creat conexiuni &#238;n Spania, Germania sau Italia &#537;i p&#226;n&#259; &#238;n 2019 au orientat sute de oameni, gratuit &#8211; practic, oamenii veneau pentru serviciile de nutri&#539;ie oncologic&#259; contra cost, dar primeau gratis aceast&#259; parte de navigare.</span></p><p><span>&#8222;Noi trebuie &#238;n primul r&#226;nd s&#259; educ&#259;m pacientul, indiferent &#238;n care etap&#259; vine la noi&#8221;, explic&#259; Elena, &#8222;prin a-i oferi cele mai pertinente recomand&#259;ri, astfel &#238;nc&#226;t s&#259; poat&#259; s&#259; urmeze tratamentul oncologic &#537;i s&#259; cronicizeze boala, indiferent de stadiul &#238;n care a fost diagnosticat&#8221;.</span></p><p><span>&#206;n timp, &#537;i nutri&#539;ia oncologic&#259; s-a supraspecializat, odat&#259; cu terapiile: biologice, imunoterapii, CAR-T, transplant. Elena face acum un masterat de nutri&#539;ie oncologic&#259; &#238;n imunoterapii &#238;n Spania. De&#537;i a f&#259;cut cursuri de navigator &#238;n afara &#539;&#259;rii, Elena a sim&#539;it nevoia s&#259; aib&#259; &#537;i legitimitatea celui oferit de Facultatea de Biologie, iar acum &#539;ine &#537;i un curs &#238;n cadrul lui.</span></p><h3><strong><span>Andi</span></strong></h3><p><span>Andi C&#226;rlan avea 36 de ani c&#226;nd a fost diagnosticat cu cancer de colon, &#238;nt&#226;mpl&#259;tor &#8211; dona frecvent s&#226;nge &#537;i analizele premerg&#259;toare i-au ie&#537;it prost. &#8222;Aveam doi copii mici, eram corporatist&#8221;, &#238;&#537;i aminte&#537;te Andi. &#8222;S&#259; nu fiu anemic, s&#259; nu fiu obosit, s&#259; nu am dureri de stomac ar fi fost cumva ciudat.&#8221; Lucra chiar &#238;n domeniul asigur&#259;rilor private de s&#259;n&#259;tate &#537;i, &#238;n paralel, str&#226;ngea fonduri pentru diverse cauze umanitare, f&#259;cea campanii de donare de s&#226;nge, dar nu s-a g&#226;ndit niciodat&#259; c&#259; va ajunge chiar el s&#259; aib&#259; nevoie de ajutor.</span></p><p><span>A sim&#539;it pe pielea lui neputin&#539;a c&#226;nd, dup&#259; diagnostic, un medic din privat i-a spus: &#8222;G&#259;si&#539;i-v&#259; un oncolog&#8221;. Cum, unde? &#8222;Nu &#537;tiu, v&#259; descurca&#539;i, nu putem face astfel de recomand&#259;ri.&#8221;</span></p><p><span>Un prieten l-a pus &#238;n contact cu navigatorii Monica Althamer &#537;i Silvia Coman (un medic care anul trecut a murit chiar de cancer). Andi a aflat relativ repede c&#259; &#537;ansele lui de vindecare sunt aproape inexistente &#537;i c&#259; tratamentul nu poate fi curativ, ci doar paliativ: &#8222;&#536;i atunci mi-am zis c&#259; at&#226;t c&#226;t mai tr&#259;iesc, vreau s&#259; ajut c&#226;t mai mul&#539;i oameni s&#259; &#238;nving&#259; boala&#8221; &#537;i le-a spus celor dou&#259; femei: &#8222;Vreau s&#259; m&#259; &#238;nv&#259;&#539;a&#539;i, vreau s&#259; fac &#537;i eu ce face&#539;i voi&#8221;.</span></p><p><span>Pentru c&#259; era destul de vizibil pe Facebook &#537;i &#238;nc&#259; de la &#238;nceput &#537;i-a povestit tot parcursul de boal&#259;, &#238;n 2020 au &#238;nceput s&#259;-l caute pacien&#539;i pentru ajutor. Printre primii care au ajuns la el era un adolescent din Alba Iulia, cu o form&#259; agresiv&#259; de cancer, care a murit la scurt timp, iar asta l-a trimis &#238;ntr-o depresie sever&#259;, din care a ie&#537;it dup&#259; mult&#259; terapie &#537;i &#238;nv&#259;&#539;area mecanismelor de autoreglare emo&#539;ional&#259;. 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Schimb de mesaje &#238;ntre navigatorii din NaviCare. 2. Andi vrea s&#259; centralizeze toate resursele/solu&#539;iile &#238;ntr-o baz&#259; de date. </figcaption></figure></div><h3><strong><span>Monica</span></strong></h3><p><span>&#8222;Naviga&#539;ia e o meserie voca&#539;ional&#259; care vine cu recompense suflete&#537;ti, psihice, extraordinar de mari&#8221;, spune Monica Althamer, &#8222;dar vine &#537;i cu o durere foarte mare. Preiei un om, te ata&#537;ezi, nu ai cum s&#259; nu fii afectat de toata suferin&#539;a pe care o vezi&#8221;.</span></p><p><span>De aceea nu e suficient s&#259; ai studii juridice sau medicale ca s&#259; devii navigator, ci trebuie s&#259; &#238;n&#539;elegi toate dimensiunile acestui rol, ca s&#259; nu ajungi s&#259; faci r&#259;u &#8211; nici omului din fa&#539;a ta, dar nici &#539;ie, epuiz&#226;ndu-te. &#536;i de aceea niciun curs nu va fi niciodat&#259; suficient, f&#259;r&#259; ani &#537;i ani de experien&#539;&#259; &#238;n teren &#537;i lucru cu pacien&#539;ii.</span></p><p><span>Monica a studiat teologie, a fost de dou&#259; ori secretar de stat &#238;n Ministerul S&#259;n&#259;t&#259;&#539;ii ca tehnocrat, unde a contribuit la completarea legisla&#539;iei privind drepturile pacientului (despre o parte </span><a href="/__u/open.substack.com/pub/sorana/p/tu-decizi-cine-are-acces-la-informatiile?r=8k6pm&amp;utm_campaign=post&amp;utm_medium=web"><span>am scris aici</span></a><span>), &#537;i este navigator pentru pacien&#539;i cu cancer &#537;i arsuri grave de 15 ani, &#238;n diferite asocia&#539;ii.</span></p><h3><strong><span>NaviCare</span></strong></h3><p><span>&#206;n 2024, c&#226;nd a f&#259;cut cursul, Monica lucra (&#537;i lucreaz&#259; &#238;n continuare) la </span><a href="https://www.fundatiametropolis.ro"><span>Funda&#539;ia Metropolis</span></a><span>, cea care renoveaz&#259; spitale &#537;i construie&#537;te unul de psihiatrie pediatric&#259;. La momentul respectiv, naviga pacien&#539;i cu afec&#539;iuni grave, dar proiectul NaviCare nu exista &#238;nc&#259;. O postare a fondatorului Codin Maticiuc &#8222;a aruncat totul &#238;n aer&#8221;.</span></p><p><span>&#206;n 2025 a scris despre cum tat&#259;l lui, bolnav de cancer, avea nevoie de protonoterapie, care nu se face &#238;n Rom&#226;nia &#537;i care ar fi costat 50.000 de euro &#238;n str&#259;in&#259;tate, dar Monica l-a consiliat astfel &#238;nc&#226;t s&#259;-l fac&#259; gratuit, &#238;n baza legisla&#539;iei rom&#226;ne&#537;ti, care oblig&#259; statul s&#259; deconteze terapii care nu sunt disponibile &#238;n &#539;ar&#259;. A&#537;a c&#259; a folosit acei 50.000 de euro ca s&#259; lanseze, &#238;mpreun&#259; cu Monica, </span><a href="https://www.fundatiametropolis.ro/navicare/"><span>NaviCare</span></a><span>, un proiect prin care oamenii completeaz&#259; un formular online &#537;i pot primi gratuit sprijin informa&#539;ional, emo&#539;ional &#537;i, &#238;n mod excep&#539;ional, financiar. </span></p><p><span>&#206;n c&#226;teva zile s-au str&#226;ns sute de cazuri. Atunci au intervenit &#537;i Andi, Elena &#537;i o coleg&#259; din Sibiu, s&#259; preia din cazuri &#537;i pe parcurs s-au mai ad&#259;ugat colegi. Azi sunt 25, organiza&#539;i dibace de Andi, care a trecut de la navigare la coordonarea echipei de voluntari. </span></p><p><span>&#206;n 14 luni au preluat peste 2.000 de cazuri. Unele au fost punctuale &#537;i au putut fi rezolvate pe loc sau &#238;n c&#226;teva zile, dar altele dureaz&#259; luni &#238;ntregi &#8211; iar asta e valabil pentru navigarea de pacien&#539;i, &#238;n general, pentru c&#259; tratamentul e lung &#537;i complex, uneori exist&#259; recidive, alteori se ajunge la palia&#539;ie.</span></p><p><span>Acum nu mai exist&#259; cazuri &#238;n a&#537;teptare. Ba mai mult, sunt navigatori califica&#539;i care a&#537;teapt&#259; s&#259; lucreze pro bono &#238;n NaviCare, dar deocamdat&#259; asta e dimensiunea care poate fi gestionat&#259;. Iar accesul nu e chiar u&#537;or: interviu, acorduri GDPR pe care navigatorul trebuie s&#259; le semneze, cazier, certificat de integritate care trebuie ob&#539;inut la fiecare &#537;ase luni (arat&#259; c&#259; nu sunt &#238;n registrul infractorilor sexuali). </span></p><p><span>Nici NaviCare, nici COMPAS nu au un birou, toat&#259; munca e remote, a&#537;a cum &#537;i rela&#539;ia lor cu pacien&#539;ii are loc la distan&#539;&#259;, &#238;n multe ore pe telefon &#537;i email.</span></p><div class="captioned-button-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/p/cat-o-sa-mai-fii-aici?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="CaptionedButtonToDOM"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Dac&#259; &#537;tii pe cineva c&#259;ruia i-ar fi de folos aceste informa&#539;ii, trimite-i articolul.</p></div><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/p/cat-o-sa-mai-fii-aici?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/cat-o-sa-mai-fii-aici?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p></div><p></p><h3><strong><span>Circuitul</span></strong></h3><p><span>Azi, cursan&#539;ii de la post-universitar fac practic&#259; cu navigatori din NaviCare: observ&#259; tot procesul, caut&#259; resurse &#537;i preg&#259;tesc cazul &#238;mpreun&#259; &#537;i ajung inevitabil s&#259; descurce acelea&#537;i dileme etice: sunt disponibil la orice or&#259; sau pun ni&#537;te limite?, Ce fac dac&#259; un pacient &#238;mi cere s&#259; &#238;i organizez o campanie de fundraising sau familia are nevoie de bani &#238;n timpul tratamentului &#238;n str&#259;in&#259;tate?.</span></p><p><span>Dup&#259; ce termin&#259; cursul, unii devin voluntari activi &#238;n NaviCare. Intr&#259; astfel &#238;ntr-o re&#539;ea &#537;i reu&#537;esc s&#259; g&#259;seasc&#259; solu&#539;ii mult mai repede, un aspect esen&#539;ial pentru Monica, Elena &#537;i Andi.</span></p><p><span>&#8222;Ini&#539;ial m&#259; sim&#539;eam ca o oaie r&#259;t&#259;cit&#259;&#8221;, &#238;&#537;i aminte&#537;te Andi. </span></p><div class="pullquote"><p><span>&#8222;Aveam diploma, dar la stat nu puteam s&#259; m&#259; angajez, la privat nu puteam s&#259; m&#259; angajez, am c&#259;utat o asocia&#539;ie, colegiu, ceva, unde s&#259; m&#259; &#238;nscriu. Nu exista&#8221;. </span></p></div><p><span>&#536;i a&#537;a, cei trei au fondat COMPAS.</span></p><p><span>COMPAS nu ofer&#259; servicii de navigare, ci e o asocia&#539;ie-umbrel&#259; pentru navigatorii cu diplom&#259;, care se ocup&#259; de formare continu&#259;, reprezentare &#537;i lobby, &#238;n care azi sunt &#238;nscri&#537;i nu doar absolven&#539;ii cursului de la Biologie, ci &#537;i navigatori care au f&#259;cut alte &#537;coli, precum Amazonia. Primul proiect al COMPAS a fost registrul navigatorilor, un fel de &#8222;Paginii aurii&#8221;, explic&#259; Andi &#238;n stilu-i caracteristic &#8211; pragmatic, u&#537;or ironic, amuzant.</span></p><p><span>Astfel, Facultatea de Biologie, Funda&#539;ia Metropolis &#537;i COMPAS au creat </span><strong><span>un circuit care &#238;mpinge profesia &#238;nainte</span></strong><span>, de la cre&#537;terea vizibilit&#259;&#539;ii &#537;i transparentizare, la &#238;ncerc&#259;ri de profesionalizare (norme, reguli, reglementare) &#8211; o zon&#259; &#238;n care vor trebuie &#238;ns&#259; s&#259; se a&#537;eze la aceea&#537;i mas&#259; &#537;i cu ceilal&#539;i actori esen&#539;iali: </span><a href="https://www.amazonia-navigators.ro"><span>Amazonia Navigators</span></a><span>, Alina Com&#259;nescu, nou-&#238;nfiin&#539;atul </span><a href="https://www.amazonia-navigators.ro"><span>Ordin al navigatorilor</span></a><span> sau al&#539;i furnizori acredita&#539;i de formare profesional&#259;. 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17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Mesaje de mul&#539;umire.</figcaption></figure></div><p></p><h3>Limite</h3><p><span>&#8222;C&#226;t o s&#259; fii aici?&#8221;, e &#238;ntrebat&#259; Monica de pacien&#539;i bulversa&#539;i, &#8222;pentru care navigatorul e aceast&#259; persoan&#259; nou&#259; care intr&#259; &#238;n via&#539;a ta, face, drege, &#238;&#539;i ascult&#259; povestea vie&#539;ii &#537;i &#238;&#539;i &#537;tie toate fricile&#8221;. </span></p><p><span>&#8222;At&#226;ta timp c&#226;t are nevoie pacientul &#537;i c&#226;t &#238;&#537;i dore&#537;te asta&#8221;, r&#259;spunde Monica, pentru care nu prea exist&#259; limite de timp sau disponibilitate, dar &#238;i sf&#259;tuie&#537;te pe viitorii navigatori s&#259;-&#537;i stabileasc&#259; aceste limite singuri.</span></p><p><span>Primul ei pacient avea 3 ani &#537;i jum&#259;tate, acum are 19, &#537;i i-a devenit, practic, familie. Cu multe familii p&#259;streaz&#259; leg&#259;tura, indiferent dac&#259; tratamentul a fost fericit sau nu. Pentru navigatori, spre deosebire de psihologi, nu exist&#259; regula c&#259; nu pot dep&#259;&#537;i bariera profesional&#259;, iar medicul nu poate &#537;i nu ar trebui s&#259; ofere &#537;i suport emo&#539;ional dincolo de ni&#537;te limite. </span></p><p><span>Mai mult, d&#259; exemplu Monica, sunt &#238;ntreb&#259;ri pe care oamenii nu &#238;ndr&#259;znesc s&#259; le pun&#259; medicilor, &#537;i exact aici intervin navigatorii: &#206;mi va c&#259;dea p&#259;rul dintr-o dat&#259;, dup&#259; prima perfuzie cu citostatice? Doare c&#226;nd cade?.</span></p><p><span>Ea s-a hot&#259;r&#226;t s&#259; devin&#259; navigator dup&#259; mai multe vizite la urgen&#539;&#259; cu fiica ei, c&#226;nd, de fric&#259;, se transforma &#238;ntr-un robot &#8211; p&#259;rea c&#259; &#238;nregistreaz&#259; ce-i spune medicul, coopera, dar acas&#259; uita tot: &#8222;M&#259; g&#226;ndeam, Doamne, dac&#259; mai sunt &#537;i al&#539;i oameni care tr&#259;iesc aceast&#259; stare de &#537;oc care se instaleaz&#259; c&#226;nd ajunge o persoan&#259; &#238;n halat alb l&#226;ng&#259; ei &#537;i &#238;ncepe s&#259; proceseze informa&#539;ia deformat, &#238;nseamn&#259; c&#259; po&#539;i s&#259; aju&#539;i doar fiind mintea aia limpede de l&#226;ng&#259; cineva.&#8221; </span></p><p><span>&#536;i a ales s&#259; fie ea mintea aceea limpede.<br></span></p><blockquote><h4><strong><span>Cum devii navigator de pacien&#539;i certificat?</span></strong></h4><p><span>Profesia exist&#259; &#238;n Codul Ocupa&#539;iilor (COR) din 2017, dar de abia &#238;n ultimii ani am &#238;nceput s&#259; auzim de navigatori, pe de o parte pentru c&#259; &#238;n spitalele de stat ei nu exist&#259;, iar cele private au &#238;nceput recent s&#259;-i promoveze (de&#537;i aici e o &#238;ntreag&#259; discu&#539;ie dac&#259; aceia sunt navigatori &#238;n adev&#259;ratul sens al cuv&#226;ntului sau mai degrab&#259; </span><em><span>concierge </span></em><span>medicali care te orienteaz&#259; &#238;n interiorul re&#539;elei lor). </span></p><p><span>Pe de alt&#259; parte, profesia are &#238;nc&#259; nevoie s&#259; fie reglementat&#259; mai strict.</span></p><p><span>Demersul de introducere &#238;n COR l-a f&#259;cut Asocia&#539;ia Amazonia, &#238;nfiin&#539;at&#259; de primul navigator din Rom&#226;nia care s-a certificat &#238;n SUA, Victoria Asanache. Ulterior, Amazonia a elaborat standardul ocupa&#539;ional, adic&#259; nivelul de instruire, cuno&#537;tin&#539;e &#537;i experien&#539;&#259; pe care un navigator e obligatoriu s&#259; le aib&#259;, &#537;i curricula de preg&#259;tire pentru zona oncologic&#259;, &#238;n care activeaz&#259; fondatoarea organiza&#539;iei, &#537;i le-a autorizat la Ministerul Muncii.</span></p><p><span>Din acel moment, &#537;i al&#539;i furnizori de formare profesional&#259; pentru adul&#539;i sau asocia&#539;ii &#537;i-au putut crea programele proprii de preg&#259;tire, pe care le-au acreditat la Ministerul Muncii, pentru a forma ele &#238;nsele navigatori &#8211; e cazul </span><a href="https://arnis.ong"><span>Asocia&#539;iei ARNIS</span></a><span>, care a f&#259;cut un program &#238;n domeniul s&#259;n&#259;t&#259;&#539;ii mamei &#537;i a copilului, specialitatea ei, &#537;i a format 10 navigatori care s&#259; lucreze &#238;n maternit&#259;&#539;i &#537;i s&#259;-i ajute pe p&#259;rin&#539;ii copiilor prematuri.</span></p><p><span>Ca s&#259; faci un program de formare &#238;n navigare de pacien&#539;i, &#537;i ca s&#259; po&#539;i fi angajat ca unul, &#238;&#539;i trebuie obligatoriu facultate &#537;i cinci ani de experien&#539;&#259; de munc&#259;, &#238;n general, sau doi &#238;n s&#259;n&#259;tate, asisten&#539;&#259; social&#259; sau management de caz.</span></p></blockquote><h3><strong><span><br>C&#226;&#539;i formatori &#537;i c&#226;&#539;i navigatori exist&#259; &#238;n Rom&#226;nia</span></strong></h3><p><span>Ministerul Muncii mi-a transmis c&#259; azi exist&#259; patru organiza&#539;ii care formeaz&#259; navigatori califica&#539;i &#537;i 274 de persoane care au absolvit. Amazonia Navigators a fost prima &#537;i are cei mai mul&#539;i. Dintre ei, unii lucreaz&#259; &#238;n re&#539;ele private de s&#259;n&#259;tate &#537;i 20 sunt asistente la Institutul Oncologic Bucure&#537;ti, dar nu se &#537;tie c&#226;&#539;i din total profeseaz&#259;, efectiv.</span></p><p><span>Mai sunt cei 90 de la Facultatea de Biologie, 10 ai ARNIS &#537;i c&#226;&#539;iva forma&#539;i de Federa&#539;ia Asocia&#539;iilor Bolnavilor de Cancer, care &#238;ntre timp a renun&#539;at.</span></p><p><span>(&#206;n pia&#539;&#259; mai sunt &#537;i al&#539;ii care au experien&#539;&#259; &#537;i poate sunt competen&#539;i, dar nu au o diplom&#259; recunoscut&#259; de Ministerul Muncii, ca ace&#537;tia de mai sus.)</span></p><p><span>Persoane angajate pe post de navigator sunt 60, conform Ministerului Muncii (acum trei ani erau 27).</span></p><h3><strong><span>Ce nevoi pot rezolva navigatorii</span></strong></h3><p><span>Bianca &#238;&#537;i aminte&#537;te un caz atipic pe care ea l-a gestionat &#238;n NaviCare, care arat&#259; tocmai diversitatea nevoilor. O femeie care locuia &#238;n str&#259;in&#259;tate i-a rugat s&#259; o &#238;nso&#539;easc&#259; pe mama ei la o consulta&#539;ie oncologic&#259;, ca s&#259; nu mearg&#259; singur&#259;. Din fericire, ve&#537;tile au fost mai bune dec&#226;t se a&#537;teptau, n-a fost nevoie de mastectomie, ci doar de interven&#539;ie localizat&#259;. </span>Dar dac&#259; un navigator nu se simte confortabil s&#259; r&#259;spund&#259; unei astfel de nevoi, cazul este realocat, &#537;i tocmai &#259;sta e avantajul unei re&#539;ele precum NaviCare.</p><p><span>&#8222;Dac&#259; r&#259;spunsul ar fi fost altul, cu siguran&#539;&#259; lucrurile ar fi stat cu totul diferit &#238;n ceea ce prive&#537;te rolul &#537;i aportul meu &#238;n echilibrarea ei emo&#539;ional&#259;&#8221;, spune Bianca. &#8222;Navigatorul trebuie s&#259; fie o persoan&#259; a&#537;ezat&#259;, care s&#259;-l poat&#259; ancora pe pacient &#238;n realitate.&#8221;</span></p><p><span>Nevoia fireasc&#259; a oric&#259;rui pacient, mai ales c&#226;nd are un diagnostic care-i amenin&#539;&#259; via&#539;a, este s&#259; mearg&#259; la &#8222;cei mai buni&#8221; medici, c&#226;t mai repede, pentru &#8222;cel mai bun&#8221; tratament. Iar &#238;ntrebarea fireasc&#259; e: de unde &#537;tiu navigatorii cine sunt ace&#537;ti &#8222;cei mai buni&#8221;? </span></p><p><span>Evident c&#259; nu exist&#259; ierarhii oficiale, dar navigatorii &#537;tiu de la congrese, din reviste &#537;tiin&#539;ifice, de la asocia&#539;iile profesionale &#537;i prin networking ce medici au supraspecializ&#259;ri sau experien&#539;&#259; mai mare &#238;n </span><em><span>ce</span></em><span>, ce medici sunt implica&#539;i &#238;n studii clinice sau ce tratamente inovatoare au mai ap&#259;rut &#537;i cum le po&#539;i ob&#539;ine.</span></p><p><span>Ba mai mult, &#537;i navigatorii s-ar putea ni&#537;a pe tipuri de patologii, crede Alina Com&#259;nescu. &#8222;Gradul de &#238;nnoire a protocoalelor &#537;i a tipurilor de tratament oncologic este at&#226;t de mare, &#238;nc&#226;t nu po&#539;i s&#259; spui c&#259; navighezi </span><em><span>tot</span></em><span>.&#8221;</span></p><p><span>&#8222;Performan&#539;a e legat&#259; de ceea ce tu &#238;nve&#539;i &#238;n fiecare zi&#8221;, insist&#259; &#537;i Victoria Asanache, &#8222;&#537;i eu la v&#226;rsta mea &#238;nv&#259;&#539; &#238;n fiecare zi. Acum 25 de ani, ghidurile Societ&#259;&#539;ii Europene de Oncologie Medical&#259; se schimbau o dat&#259; la cinci ani, acum se schimb&#259; lunar, &#537;i tu trebuie s&#259; fii la curent. Pacientul nu vine ca s&#259;-l m&#226;ng&#226;i pe cre&#537;tet &#537;i s&#259;-i spui, </span><em><span>l&#259;sa&#539;i c&#259; ave&#539;i cancer, </span></em><span>dar o s&#259; v&#259; treac&#259;.&#8221;</span></p><p><span>De multe ori, navigatorii se consult&#259; cu medici rom&#226;ni despre variantele de tratament din afar&#259;, a&#537;a cum sunt &#537;i medici care &#238;i sun&#259; pe ei pentru pacien&#539;i (fie ca s&#259;-i preia &#238;n navigare, fie ca s&#259; g&#259;seasc&#259; &#238;mpreun&#259; un doctor pentru a doua opinie, de exemplu. Iar aici e important de &#537;tiut c&#259; unii medici ofer&#259; a doua opinie gratuit, al&#539;ii contra cost, at&#226;t la noi, c&#226;t &#537;i &#238;n afar&#259;).</span></p><p><span>Tocmai pentru c&#259; este o profesie aproape necunoscut&#259; la noi, au existat &#537;i critici &#238;n spa&#539;iul public, cum c&#259; &#8222;ar vinde&#8221; pacien&#539;i clinicilor din afar&#259;, ar primi &#8222;parand&#259;r&#259;t&#8221; de la Casele de S&#259;n&#259;tate sau comisioane (ceea ce este complet ne-etic &#537;i negat de to&#539;i navigatorii cu care am vorbit, fie c&#259; lucreaz&#259; pe cont propriu, fie &#238;n asocia&#539;ii).</span></p><h3><strong><span>De ce nu sunt navigatori medicali &#238;n spitalele de stat?</span></strong></h3><p><span>Pe de o parte, pentru c&#259; legea e &#238;nvechit&#259;: navigatorul nu e recunoscut ca profesie &#238;n sistemul medical public &#537;i nici &#238;n legea salariz&#259;rii, a&#537;a &#238;nc&#226;t spitalele nu &#238;i pot nici angaja, nici pl&#259;ti. Dar legile de oameni sunt f&#259;cute &#537;i pot fi schimbate, &#537;i aici ar trebui ca navigatorii califica&#539;i s&#259; fac&#259; front comun.</span></p><p><span>Ni&#537;te discu&#539;ii &#238;ntre Amazonia, Ordinul navigatorilor &#537;i COMPAS au existat, dar n-au ajuns s&#259; &#537;i semneze ceva. Cel care conduce acum Ordinul, Irinel Buc&#537;e, a reu&#537;it s&#259; discute cu fostul ministru Rogobete, care s-a ar&#259;tat sus&#539;in&#259;tor al angaj&#259;rii &#238;n spitale, &#537;i a depus un memoriu pentru includerea func&#539;iei de navigator &#238;n lege, cu doar c&#226;teva zile &#238;nainte ca Guvernul s&#259; cad&#259; &#238;n aprilie. Dar de atunci, nimic.</span></p><p><span>Cu toate astea, </span><strong><span>exist&#259; un spital public care a studiat legea &#537;i a angajat un navigator de pacien&#539;i</span></strong><span>: Spitalul Jude&#539;ean de Urgen&#539;&#259; Sibiu. &#8222;&#206;nt&#226;mpl&#259;tor&#8221; sau nu, trei angaja&#539;i ai spitalului f&#259;cuser&#259; cursul de navigatori la Facultatea de Biologie &#537;i &#238;n&#539;eleseser&#259; relevan&#539;a.</span></p><p><span>Spitalul a cerut ordonatorului de credite, Consiliul Jude&#539;ean, s&#259; &#238;nfiin&#539;eze postul &#238;n statul de func&#539;ii &#537;i l-a scos la concurs. Salariul este, conform unei Anexe la Legea salariz&#259;rii, egal cu al unei asistente cu studii superioare. Dup&#259; o prim&#259; &#238;ncercare nereu&#537;it&#259;, postul a fost ocupat &#238;n august 2025.</span></p><p><span>&#536;i mai e un motiv pentru care nu sunt navigatori &#238;n sistemul public: unii medici sunt &#238;n continuare refractari, </span>se tem c&#259; ar fi &#537;i &#8222;verifica&#539;i&#8221; de navigatori &#537;i <span>simt c&#259; &#537;i-ar pierde din autoritate &#238;n fa&#539;a pacien&#539;ilor sau i-ar pierde chiar de tot, &#238;n favoarea str&#259;in&#259;t&#259;&#539;ii.</span></p><p><span>Sistemul e rezistent la schimbare, chiar dac&#259; toate studiile arat&#259; </span><a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6685525/"><span>beneficiile</span></a><span> clare ale unui navigator &#238;n echipa medical&#259;. &#206;n &#539;&#259;ri precum Marea Britanie sau SUA sunt &#238;n spitale navigatori, pl&#259;ti&#539;i fie de ONG-uri, fie de autorit&#259;&#539;i locale, &#238;n func&#539;ie &#537;i de cum e finan&#539;at spitalul respectiv.</span></p><p><span>Monica spune c&#259; &#537;i-ar dori ca Funda&#539;ia Metropolis s&#259;-i poat&#259; pl&#259;ti pe cei 25 de navigatori voluntari, dar nu are bani. Ea este angajat&#259; a Funda&#539;iei, dar pentru alte roluri &#537;i proiecte. Pentru pacien&#539;i &#238;ns&#259;, ajutorul e gratuit. </span></p><p><span>Victoria Asanache ofer&#259; consultan&#539;&#259; &#238;n cadrul unei re&#539;ele private (e pl&#259;tit&#259;, dar nu angajat&#259;, pacien&#539;ii primesc gratuit ajutorul ei &#537;i &#238;i direc&#539;ioneaz&#259; unde crede de cuviin&#539;&#259;). Alina Com&#259;nescu lucreaz&#259; pe cont propriu, are un onorariu de 350 de lei/caz navigat &#238;n Rom&#226;nia, 650 pentru str&#259;in&#259;tate, indiferent c&#226;t dureaz&#259; p&#226;n&#259; intri pe un tratament, iar unele cazuri le face pro bono.</span></p><h3><strong><span>Ce ar mai trebui reglementat</span></strong></h3><p><span>Alina crede c&#259; standardul ocupa&#539;ional ar trebui actualizat &#537;i c&#259; navigarea ar trebui segmentat&#259; pe etape, a&#537;a cum &#238;ncepe s&#259; fie &#537;i &#238;n afar&#259;: navigatori de preven&#539;ie &#537;i screening, de diagnostic, de tratament sau de palia&#539;ie.</span></p><p><span>Dar p&#226;n&#259; acolo, un alt lucru asupra c&#259;ruia &#537;i COMPAS, &#537;i Amazonia, &#537;i Ordinul, &#537;i Alina cad de acord, dar nu s-au a&#537;ezat &#238;nc&#259; &#238;mpreun&#259;, e </span><strong><span>nevoia unui cod deontologic</span></strong><span> al profesiei &#537;i un mod de a sanc&#539;iona derapajele (de exemplu, navigatori care influen&#539;eaz&#259; pacien&#539;ii s&#259; nu fac&#259; tratament).</span></p><p><span>Trebuie ca toat&#259; lumea s&#259; se raporteze la acelea&#537;i reguli, de aceea e nevoie de un for precum Colegiul Psihologilor, iar pentru asta trebuie, cel mai probabil, o lege care s&#259; &#238;nfiin&#539;eze &#537;i s&#259; legitimeze acest Colegiu. Ordinul nu &#537;i-a propus &#537;i nu poate face asta.</span></p><p><span>E nevoie de leadership &#537;i ownership al procesului, &#238;n condi&#539;iile &#238;n care to&#539;i ace&#537;ti stakeholderi au joburi &#537;i zeci de pacien&#539;i &#238;n navigare, sau sunt ei &#238;n&#537;i&#537;i pacien&#539;i, cum e cazul lui Andi. E urm&#259;torul pas pentru acest bulg&#259;re care s-a urnit &#238;n ultimii ani.</span></p><div class="pullquote"><p><span>&#8222;P&#226;n&#259; c&#226;nd vor fi pl&#259;ti&#539;i, dac&#259; vor fi pl&#259;ti&#539;i, mul&#539;i navigatori se vor pierde&#8221;, spune Monica. </span></p></div><p><span>Navigarea nu e genul de activitate pe care s&#259; o po&#539;i face &#238;n paralel mult timp. Ea &#537;i-a dat demisia de la banc&#259; dup&#259; ce, &#238;n primii ani, petrecea prea multe ore la job consiliind pacien&#539;i.</span></p><p><span>&#206;n Rom&#226;nia, navigarea este o meserie f&#259;r&#259; un viitor imediat, tocmai pentru c&#259; nu te po&#539;i angaja, spun &#537;i Andi, &#537;i Victoria Asanache, iar solu&#539;ia g&#259;sit&#259; la Sibiu nu e scalabil&#259;. Nimeni nu vrea &#238;nc&#259; navigatori &#238;n spitale, pentru c&#259; ar deranja, iar medicii nu &#238;n&#539;eleg ce c&#226;&#537;tig ar fi un navigator &#238;n echipa medical&#259;.</span></p><p><span>Dac&#259; Ministerul &#537;i Casa Na&#539;ional&#259; de S&#259;n&#259;tate ar vrea s&#259; avem navigatori &#238;n spitale, ar face-o, spune Andi, &#537;i nici m&#259;car lipsa banilor nu a fost invocat&#259; ca motiv clar: &#8222;Oficial, toat&#259; lumea &#238;&#537;i dore&#537;te. Oficial, este o idee bun&#259; &#537;i, da, vrem s&#259; o facem. Dar la fel de oficial nu-i las&#259; legea pe care tot ei pot s&#259; o fac&#259;&#8221;.</span></p><p><span>&#8222;P&#226;n&#259; atunci, mesajul meu pentru fiecare genera&#539;ie e s&#259; lucreze &#238;ntr-o comunitate&#8221;, spune Monica, &#8222;pentru c&#259; e &#537;i spre binele pacientului, &#537;i spre binele navigatorului. E foarte greu s&#259; te sim&#539;i singur cu profesia ta&#8221;.<br></span></p><p><em><span>*mesaje ob&#539;inute de la grupul de navigatori NaviCare, asamblate vizual de Oana Barbonie.</span></em></p><p><em><span><br>Articolul a fost realizat &#238;n cadrul Burselor pentru jurnalism despre filantropie, program realizat de Asocia&#539;ia pentru Rela&#539;ii Comunitare &#537;i sus&#539;inut de Lidl Rom&#226;nia.</span></em></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Tu știi cine are acces la documentele tale medicale?]]></title><description><![CDATA[&#536;i nu trebuie s&#259; fie o rud&#259;.]]></description><link>https://sorana.substack.com/p/tu-decizi-cine-are-acces-la-informatiile</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://sorana.substack.com/p/tu-decizi-cine-are-acces-la-informatiile</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Sorana Stănescu]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2026 03:31:06 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oPYj!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F24d3a560-7f24-456b-8de0-3e9e767ad3dd_5396x3035.heic" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salut!</p><p>&#536;i bine te-am g&#259;sit &#238;n aceast&#259; nou&#259; realitate, cu un Guvern interimar &#537;i proiecte &#238;nt&#226;rziate din cauza blocajului politic.</p><p>&#206;n edi&#539;ia asta vorbim despre ceva ce m&#259; preocup&#259; de mult: cum po&#539;i s&#259;-&#539;i ob&#539;ii dosarul medical &#537;i cine poate cere informa&#539;ii despre tine <em>c&#226;nd e&#537;ti internat</em>. Vestea e mai bun&#259; dec&#226;t credeam. </p><p>M-a l&#259;murit Monica Althamer, navigator de pacien&#539;i la <a href="https://www.fundatiametropolis.ro/navicare/">Navicare</a>, care a reprezentat sute de oameni &#238;n rela&#539;ie cu spitalele &#537;i i-a ajutat <strong>s&#259; ajung&#259; mai repede la tratamentul potrivit &#238;n &#539;ar&#259; sau &#238;n afar&#259;</strong> (despre navigatori <a href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/navigatorii-de-pacienti-potentiala?r=8k6pm">am scris aici</a> &#537;i urmeaz&#259; un articol mai amplu luna viitoare).</p><p>&#536;i mai vorbim despre ni&#537;te progrese &#238;n dou&#259; domenii esen&#539;iale: concediile medicale (CM) &#537;i investiga&#539;iile imagistice pentru pacien&#539;ii cronici din programele MONITOR, unde &#8222;progres&#8221; &#238;nseamn&#259;, de fapt, &#238;ncercarea de a repara <a href="https://legislatie.just.ro/Public/DetaliiDocumentAfis/306237">stric&#259;ciunile f&#259;cute la final de 2025</a>.</p><p><em>Spuneam edi&#539;ia trecut&#259; c&#259; mi-a&#537; dori cadou de ziua mea 10 abona&#539;i pl&#259;titori noi. A&#539;i fost 6 care v-a&#539;i abonat sau a&#539;i re&#238;nnoit abonamentul. V&#259; mul&#539;umesc! Sus&#539;inerea voastr&#259; e esen&#539;ial&#259; ca Foaia de observa&#539;ie s&#259; continue.</em></p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">E&#537;ti abonat la Foaia de observa&#539;ie? Dac&#259; da, &#238;&#539;i mul&#539;umesc. Dac&#259; nu, f&#259;-o acum. Prime&#537;ti un singur email pe lun&#259; &#537;i zero publicitate</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h2><strong>Tu decizi cine are acces la informa&#539;iile tale medicale c&#226;nd e&#537;ti internat</strong></h2><p>P&#226;n&#259; miercurea trecut&#259; am tr&#259;it cu dou&#259; convingeri gre&#537;ite. Probabil c&#259; mai multe, dar pe astea le-am corectat, datorit&#259; Monic&#259;i:</p><ol><li><p>Doar so&#539;ul, p&#259;rin&#539;ii sau copiii t&#259;i au acces la informa&#539;ii despre tine dac&#259; e&#537;ti &#238;n spital.</p></li><li><p>Ai dreptul s&#259;-&#539;i prime&#537;ti documentele medicale doar la externare (nu &#537;i c&#226;t timp e&#537;ti &#238;n spital).</p></li></ol><p>Complet gre&#537;it. </p><p>Ambele situa&#539;ii sunt reglementate &#238;nc&#259; din 2016, dup&#259; Colectiv, &#537;i fac parte din <a href="https://legislatie.just.ro/Public/DetaliiDocumentAfis/309132">normele de aplicare</a> a <a href="https://legislatie.just.ro/Public/DetaliiDocument/264988">Legii drepturilor pacientului</a>. Monica era atunci secretar de stat &#238;n Ministerul S&#259;n&#259;t&#259;&#539;ii &#537;i a contribuit la aceste reglement&#259;ri at&#226;t de necesare.</p><p>Corect:</p><h4><strong><br>&#128107; Cui dai acces la </strong><em><strong>informa&#539;iile</strong></em><strong> tale medicale &#8211; fie c&#259; e vorba de internare de zi, fie continu&#259; (adic&#259; r&#259;m&#226;i &#238;n spital):</strong></h4><ol><li><p>Tu alegi persoana (sau persoanele) care pot primi informa&#539;ii despre starea ta de s&#259;n&#259;tate, investiga&#539;ii, diagnostic, prognostic, tratament etc. &#8211; conform <a href="https://legislatie.just.ro/Public/DetaliiDocumentAfis/309132">art. 11 (2) de aici</a>.</p></li></ol><blockquote><ul><li><p>E un formular standard (<a href="https://legislatie.just.ro/Public/DetaliiDocumentAfis/309132">Anexa 5</a>), care trebuie s&#259; fac&#259; parte din setul de documente pe care &#238;l completezi la internare.</p></li><li><p>Dac&#259; lipse&#537;te, solicit&#259;-l sau scrie tu o cerere simpl&#259;. Dac&#259; ui&#539;i, po&#539;i s-o faci oric&#226;nd pe parcursul spitaliz&#259;rii sau tratamentului &#238;n ambulatoriu.</p></li><li><p>Persoana pe care o desemnezi <strong>poate fi oricine</strong>, nu trebuie s&#259; fie membru al familiei &#8211; poate fi partenerul de via&#539;&#259; cu care nu e&#537;ti c&#259;s&#259;torit sau chiar un navigator de pacien&#539;i, care va c&#259;uta pentru tine &#537;i alte op&#539;iuni de tratament, de exemplu, &#537;i te va reprezenta &#238;n rela&#539;ia cu spitalul.</p></li><li><p><strong>Aten&#539;ie</strong>: trebuie s&#259; completezi acest formular la fiecare internare, indiferent dac&#259; ai mai ales aceea&#537;i persoan&#259; &#238;n trecut.</p></li></ul></blockquote><ol start="2"><li><p>Dac&#259; e&#537;ti internat &#537;i mori (&#238;mi pare r&#259;u pentru exprimarea abrupt&#259;), dar ai apucat s&#259; desemnezi acea persoan&#259;, ea e cea care prime&#537;te dosarul t&#259;u medical, la cerere. &#206;ns&#259; dac&#259; la internare erai incon&#537;tient/&#238;n com&#259;/incapabil fizic &#537;i nu &#539;i-ai putut exprima aceast&#259; decizie, dup&#259; moartea ta doar o rud&#259;, &#238;n baza certificatului de mo&#537;tenitor, poate cere dosarul t&#259;u.</p></li><li><p>&#206;n timpul tratamentului, indiferent dac&#259; e&#537;ti sau nu internat, <strong>ai dreptul s&#259; Nu fii informat despre starea ta</strong>, dac&#259; &#539;i-ar aduce suferin&#539;&#259;, &#537;i po&#539;i desemna pe altcineva pentru asta (tot prin Anexa 5 de mai sus).</p></li><li><p><strong>Po&#539;i s&#259; decizi s&#259; Nu dai acces </strong>la datele tale uneia sau mai multor persoane, f&#259;r&#259; a motiva. Ai dreptul la confiden&#539;ialitate.</p></li></ol><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4N_V!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6a6029a5-b33a-4261-9ffa-80c1f38e8dd9_4283x5027.heic" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4N_V!, /__u/sorana.substack.com/w_424, /__u/sorana.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/sorana.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/sorana.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/sorana.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6a6029a5-b33a-4261-9ffa-80c1f38e8dd9_4283x5027.heic 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4N_V!, /__u/sorana.substack.com/w_848, /__u/sorana.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/sorana.substack.com/f_webp, 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17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Formular integrat &#238;n documentele de internare de zi la un spital din Bucure&#537;ti.</figcaption></figure></div><div class="captioned-button-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/p/tu-decizi-cine-are-acces-la-informatiile?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="CaptionedButtonToDOM"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Trimite articolul prietenilor &#537;i familiei. Nu &#537;tii c&#226;nd vor avea nevoie de aceste informa&#539;ii.</p></div><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/p/tu-decizi-cine-are-acces-la-informatiile?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/tu-decizi-cine-are-acces-la-informatiile?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p></div><h4><strong><br>&#128193; Acces la </strong><em><strong>documentele </strong></em><strong>tale medicale:</strong></h4><p>Ai dreptul s&#259; le ceri oric&#226;nd, indiferent dac&#259; e&#537;ti &#238;n cursul unui tratament sau l-ai terminat, iar institu&#539;ia (de stat sau privat&#259;: spital, ambulatoriu, cabinet etc.) e obligat&#259; s&#259; &#539;i le dea &#238;n copie &#238;n<strong> max. 48 de ore</strong> (<a href="https://legislatie.just.ro/Public/DetaliiDocumentAfis/309132">art. 9</a>). Nu accepta r&#259;spunsul: &#8222;le vei primi la externare&#8221;.</p><blockquote><ul><li><p>Trebuie s&#259; completezi o cerere (o g&#259;se&#537;ti &#238;n <a href="https://legislatie.just.ro/Public/DetaliiDocumentAfis/309132">Anexa 3, &#238;n acela&#537;i Ordin</a>) sau o formulezi tu. O po&#539;i trimite &#537;i pe mail.</p></li><li><p>Prevederea e extrem de important&#259; mai ales c&#226;nd ai primit un diagnostic foarte dur, care necesit&#259; confirmare sau &#238;nceperea tratamentului imediat (cancer, de exemplu), &#537;i vrei s&#259; ob&#539;ii a doua opinie medical&#259;, la care ai dreptul (!).</p></li><li><p><strong>Spitalul nu are voie s&#259; te refuze</strong>, dar e posibil s&#259; o fac&#259;, pentru c&#259; nu toate cunosc legisla&#539;ia. Insist&#259;. Sunt documentele tale &#537;i &#238;&#539;i apar&#539;in &#238;n aceea&#537;i m&#259;sur&#259; &#238;n care &#238;i apar&#539;in spitalului, mi-a explicat Monica.</p></li><li><p>E valabil &#537;i pentru probele tale de &#539;esut (dac&#259; vrei s&#259; fie analizate &#537;i de un alt laborator), dar aici trebuie s&#259; te angajezi c&#259; le aduci &#238;napoi. </p></li></ul></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oPYj!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F24d3a560-7f24-456b-8de0-3e9e767ad3dd_5396x3035.heic" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oPYj!, /__u/sorana.substack.com/w_424, /__u/sorana.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/sorana.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/sorana.substack.com/q_auto:good, 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Oameni care &#238;&#539;i sunt mai mult dec&#226;t familie.</figcaption></figure></div><p><br></p><h4><strong>&#9989; Acordul pentru un act medical:</strong></h4><p><strong>Acordul </strong><em><strong>pentru orice</strong></em><strong> act medical </strong>(de la recoltare de s&#226;nge pentru analize, la opera&#539;ie sau tratament) <strong>trebuie dat &#238;n scris.</strong></p><blockquote><ul><li><p>Dac&#259; nu &#238;l po&#539;i da &#238;n scris din cauza unei infirmit&#259;&#539;i, &#539;i se va cere verbal.</p></li><li><p>Dac&#259; starea ta medical&#259; nu-&#539;i permite s&#259;-&#539;i exprimi acordul pentru un act medical nici &#238;n scris, nici verbal, se va ob&#539;ine de la so&#539; sau ruda major&#259; cea mai apropiat&#259;, &#238;n aceast&#259; ordine: p&#259;rinte, copil &#537;i rude p&#226;n&#259; la <a href="https://lege5.ro/Gratuit/gi3tembv/gruparea-rudelor-pana-la-gradul-al-patrulea-inclusiv-decizie-2-2000?dp=giytamztgm4te">gradul IV &#238;n linie colateral&#259;</a> (ex: veri primari, nepo&#539;i de frate) &#8211; <a href="https://legislatie.just.ro/Public/DetaliiDocument/184936">vezi punctul 7 de aici</a>.</p></li><li><p><strong>Dac&#259; la internare erai con&#537;tient &#537;i ai dat acces la informa&#539;ii cuiva care nu &#238;&#539;i e rud&#259; (din nou, partenerului cu care nu e&#537;ti c&#259;s&#259;torit, de exemplu), dar apoi intri &#238;n com&#259; &#537;i e nevoie de consim&#539;&#259;m&#226;nt pentru o decizie medical&#259;, i se va cere lui acordul</strong>. Dac&#259; nu e disponibil, se merge pe prevederea de mai sus: orice rud&#259; major&#259; p&#226;n&#259; la gradul IV.</p></li><li><p>Practic, aceast&#259; persoan&#259; care ajunge s&#259; ia decizii pentru tine dac&#259; nu te po&#539;i reprezenta singur &#8222;preia drepturile pacientului&#8221;, mi-a explicat Monica, &#8222;devine pacientul&#8221;.</p></li></ul></blockquote><p>Foarte important: dac&#259; via&#539;a sau s&#259;n&#259;tatea &#238;&#539;i sunt &#238;n pericol, medicul poate interveni f&#259;r&#259; acord, iar apoi face un raport privind regimul de urgen&#539;&#259; al interven&#539;iei.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Foaia de observa&#539;ie este &#537;i va r&#259;m&#226;ne gratuit&#259;, dar, ca s&#259; pot face asta, te rog sus&#539;ine-m&#259; cu un abonament pl&#259;tit.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><div><hr></div><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p>Versiunea &#238;n 50 de cuvinte pentru ce urmeaz&#259;: cur&#226;nd, prima zi de concediu medical va fi din nou pl&#259;tit&#259; unor categorii de pacien&#539;i (dar nu tuturor), iar bolnavii cronici din programele MONITOR ar putea primi din nou dreptul la oric&#226;te investiga&#539;ii imagistitce au nevoie, peste plafon. </p></div><h2><strong>Nout&#259;&#539;i despre concediile medicale:</strong></h2><p>&#206;ncepem cu un glosar:</p><p><strong>&#10067;Cum se calculeaz&#259; concediul medical</strong> &#8211; mai corect, banii aferen&#539;i &#8211; &#537;i cine &#238;l poate acorda: <a href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/concediul-medical-cine-cum-cat">am scris aici</a>.</p><p><strong>&#10067;Ce &#238;nseamn&#259; concediu pentru &#238;ngrijirea copilului bolnav</strong>, &#238;n Rom&#226;nia sau &#238;n str&#259;in&#259;tate, pl&#259;tit cu 85% (<a href="https://legislatie.just.ro/Public/DetaliiDocument/66305">Capitolul V de aici</a>):</p><blockquote><ul><li><p>cel mult 45 de zile (calendaristice) pe an pentru probleme acute sau boli comune (viroze, gripe etc.), dac&#259; copilul are mai pu&#539;in de 12 ani;</p></li><li><p>mai mult de 45 de zile de an pentru copilul de p&#226;n&#259; la 12 ani dac&#259; are boli infectocontagioase, e imobilizat sau operat &#8211; <a href="https://legislatie.just.ro/Public/DetaliiDocument/66305">art. 29 (1)</a>;</p></li><li><p>cel mult 45 de zile pe an pentru copilul <em>p&#226;n&#259; la 18</em>, <em>dac&#259; are handicap</em> &#8211; <a href="https://legislatie.just.ro/Public/DetaliiDocument/66305">art. 26 (1)</a>;</p></li><li><p>dac&#259; are o boal&#259; grav&#259; dintre <a href="https://legislatie.just.ro/Public/DetaliiDocumentAfis/268259">cele de aici &#8211; Anexa 8</a>, precum cancer, sindrom Down sau diferite malforma&#539;ii, p&#259;rintele poate primi CM tot p&#226;n&#259; &#238;mpline&#537;te 18 ani;</p></li><li><p>poate lua, pe r&#226;nd, oricare dintre p&#259;rin&#539;i, dac&#259; a cotizat cel pu&#539;in 6 luni &#238;n ultimele 12 (fie ca salariat, fie printr-un contract facultativ cu Casa de S&#259;n&#259;tate). Totalul trebuie s&#259; fie maximum 45 de zile/an/copil.</p></li></ul></blockquote><p><strong>&#10067;Ce &#238;nseamn&#259; concediu pentru &#238;ngrijirea unui pacient cu cancer</strong> &#8211; tot 85%: e valabil pentru o persoan&#259; care &#238;nso&#539;e&#537;te la tratament sau la opera&#539;ie (la noi sau &#238;n afar&#259;) un adult de peste 18 ani. Nu trebuie s&#259; fie aceea&#537;i persoan&#259; de fiecare dat&#259; &#537;i se acord&#259; cel mult 45 de zile calendaristice pe an (<a href="https://legislatie.just.ro/Public/DetaliiDocument/66305">Capitolul VI</a>).</p><p>&#536;i acum, noutatea de care vorbeam la &#238;nceput: &#537;ti&#539;i c&#259; de la 1 februarie nu a mai fost pl&#259;tit&#259; prima zi de concediu medical. Oamenii au pierdut sute de lei din cauza asta, dar cei mai afecta&#539;i au fost &#8211; &#537;i ar fi fost pe termen lung &#8211; pacien&#539;ii cu boli cronice, care au nevoie s&#259; mearg&#259; la analize &#537;i tratament periodic (lunar, chiar), &#537;i pentru care fiecare astfel de zi era nepl&#259;tit&#259;.</p><p>Scopul oficial al m&#259;surii era s&#259; descurajeze concediile medicale fictive, ne-au zis autorit&#259;&#539;ile.</p><p>Pentru c&#259; era injust la adresa a sute de mii de oameni, fostul ministru al S&#259;n&#259;t&#259;&#539;ii, Alexandru Rogobete, a &#238;ncercat totu&#537;i s&#259; salveze situa&#539;ia &#537;i a propus ca ni&#537;te categorii s&#259; primeasc&#259; banii pentru prima zi de CM.</p><p>Pe scurt, dou&#259; luni mai t&#226;rziu, <a href="https://www.cdep.ro/pls/proiecte/docs/2026/pl147_pr147_26.pdf">modific&#259;rile au trecut de Parlament</a> &#537;i acum sunt la Pre&#537;edinte pentru promulgare.</p><p><strong>Legea va corecta dou&#259; mari nedrept&#259;&#539;i:</strong></p><ol><li><p>Dac&#259; omul se &#238;mboln&#259;ve&#537;te sau se opereaz&#259; &#537;i are nevoie de mai multe zile de CM, deci de <em>mai multe certificate</em> de CM unul dup&#259; altul <strong>&#238;n acela&#537;i episod de boal&#259; (&#8222;&#238;n continuare&#8221; e termenul legal), i se va sc&#259;dea de la plat&#259; o singur&#259; zi,</strong> nu una pentru fiecare certificat, a&#537;a cum a fost din februarie &#238;ncoace &#8211; asta e o informa&#539;ie pe care nu am v&#259;zut-o nic&#259;ieri &#238;n ultimele 10 zile, de c&#226;nd s-a votat legea &#238;n Parlament.</p></li><li><p><strong>Persoanele &#238;n concediu de maternitate, &#238;n risc maternal, care &#238;ngrijesc o persoan&#259; cu cancer, bolnavii din <a href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/ce-sunt-programele-nationale-de-sanatate?r=8k6pm">Programele Na&#539;ionale de S&#259;n&#259;tate</a> (boli cerebrovasculare, rare, neurologice, diabet, cancer etc.) &#537;i cei interna&#539;i (indiferent c&#259; sunt &#238;n spitalizare de zi sau continu&#259;) vor primi CM integral</strong> (adic&#259; nu li se va mai sc&#259;dea deloc acea prim&#259; zi). Concret, dac&#259; pacientul cronic merge la tratamentul lunar la spital, poate primi CM &#238;n acea zi &#537;i va fi pl&#259;tit. Sau dac&#259; tu mergi cu mama la chimioterapie, ar trebui s&#259; prime&#537;ti &#537;i tu CM pl&#259;tit &#238;n acea zi.</p></li></ol><p>Totu&#537;i, legea p&#259;streaz&#259; o mare nedreptate: <strong>p&#259;rin&#539;ii care &#238;ngrijesc un copil cu alt&#259; boal&#259; dec&#226;t cancerul (pneumonie, viroz&#259; etc.) nu vor primi banii pentru prima zi</strong>. Deci revenirea &#8222;la normal&#8221; e par&#539;ial&#259; &#8211; nici informa&#539;ia asta nu am mai v&#259;zut-o nic&#259;ieri.</p><p><strong>Toat&#259; povestea asta e un compromis:</strong> cu pretextul c&#259; reducem concediile fictive, am &#238;ncercat s&#259; facem economie t&#259;ind otova din toate concediile medicale, apoi am &#238;ncercat s&#259; repar&#259;m, dar n-am reparat pentru toat&#259; lumea.</p><p><strong>Rezultatul:</strong> unii pacien&#539;i se vor sim&#539;i discrimina&#539;i (de ce mie, cu pneumonie, mi se taie banii, dar celui cu diabet nu?) &#537;i se vor &#238;n&#259;spri ni&#537;te animozit&#259;&#539;i care deja exist&#259;.</p><p><strong>Ce cred c&#259; ar fi trebuit s&#259; fac&#259; &#8222;statul&#8221;?</strong> S&#259; explice cu cifre, dar &#537;i uman, de ce au p&#259;strat aceste diferen&#539;e &#537;i c&#259;, &#238;ntr-adev&#259;r, dac&#259; lu&#259;m de bun&#259; credin&#539;&#259; argumentul c&#259; se d&#259;deau concedii false numai ca s&#259; fac&#259; punte &#238;ntre s&#259;rb&#259;tori, ele se d&#259;deau, &#238;ntr-adev&#259;r, pentru boli &#8222;u&#537;oare&#8221;, cele de 3-5 zile &#8211; &#537;i atunci, da, m&#259;car le mai descuraj&#259;m pe astea t&#259;ind prima zi. C&#259;ci concediu medical fictiv pentru cancer sigur nu d&#259;dea nimeni.</p><p>Ar fi putut s&#259; explice <a href="https://hotnews.ro/bolnavii-se-vor-duce-sa-munceasca-de-teama-sau-risca-sa-fie-dati-afara-regulile-privind-concediile-medicale-starnesc-nemultumiri-si-dupa-ce-s-au-modificat-2226540?utm_source=chatgpt.com">a&#537;a cum </a>o face pre&#537;edintele COPAC, una dintre cele mai mari organiza&#539;ii de pacien&#539;i: &#8222;Dac&#259; se &#238;nt&#226;mpl&#259; s&#259; r&#259;cesc anul acesta &#537;i nu m&#259; duc c&#226;teva zile la lucru, f&#259;r&#259; o zi de plat&#259; voi rezista. Dar dac&#259; sunt pacient cronic &#537;i m&#259; duc la spital de 3-4 ori pe an, consider&#226;nd c&#259; pentru o zi de concediu medical voi pierde &#238;ntre 150 &#537;i 300 de lei, sunt ni&#537;te costuri care se adun&#259; &#238;n buzunarul acelui bolnav&#8221;. De 3-4 ori sau de 12, adaug eu.</p><p>Desigur, nicio institu&#539;ie n-a comunicat aceste modific&#259;ri care vor intra &#238;n vigoare dup&#259; promulgare. <a href="https://www.facebook.com/rogobete.alex/posts/pfbid0jfouarejeU54GHiihnfCAN7Rtg8VrC3FGfLuxwLNzJomtwndh2pLXoNNjjWVi46il">A comunicat doar fostul ministru pe Facebook</a>, &#537;i doar p&#259;r&#539;ile &#8222;corectate&#8221;, dup&#259; ce &#537;i el girase, ca membru al Guvernului t&#259;ierea primei zile.</p><div><hr></div><p><em>P.S. Pentru noutatea despre programele MONITOR, sari sec&#539;iunea asta. Dac&#259; vrei s&#259; &#537;tii cum se face Foaia de observa&#539;ie, cite&#537;te &#238;n continuare.</em></p><p>Aceste patru paragrafe par simple &#537;i e u&#537;or s&#259; v&#259; imagina&#539;i c&#259; le-am v&#259;zut &#238;n forma asta pe vreun site oficial sau m&#259;car pe pagina Ministerului &#537;i c&#259; le-am rescris eu un pic mai clar, cel mult. &#206;n realitate, mi-a luat mai multe ore:</p><ol><li><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/rogobete.alex/posts/pfbid02oZm76Jpa8yCCb6kxmEcwumawZixW2Q5CzzQQhyV67HU3bDFzcR1qBNrGgg7Zsz4Jl">&#238;nt&#226;i am citit postarea fostului ministru</a>, &#238;n care se laud&#259; cum a &#238;ndreptat inechitatea, dar &#238;n care nu men&#539;ioneaz&#259; revenirea &#537;i pentru femeile &#238;ns&#259;rcinate/lehuze &#537;i p&#259;rin&#539;ii care &#238;ngrijesc copilul cu cancer (deci informa&#539;ia e incomplet&#259;);</p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.cdep.ro/pls/proiecte/upl_pck2015.proiect?idp=23048">apoi m-am dus pe site-ul Senatului</a> s&#259; v&#259;d parcursul legii &#537;i <a href="https://www.cdep.ro/pls/proiecte/docs?2026/pl147_pr147_26.pdf">forma trimis&#259; spre promulgare</a>;</p></li><li><p><a href="https://legislatie.just.ro/Public/DetaliiDocumentAfis/306237">apoi am deschis OUG</a> pe care aceast&#259; lege o modific&#259;, pentru c&#259; la noi legile nu se scriu cu toate cuvintele, ci a&#537;a:</p></li></ol><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9_o5!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdb7ecb2f-b6ae-4b07-9ff0-b6088d3245c8_2258x540.heic" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9_o5!, /__u/sorana.substack.com/w_424, /__u/sorana.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/sorana.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/sorana.substack.com/q_auto:good, 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/__u/sorana.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/sorana.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/sorana.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/sorana.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdb7ecb2f-b6ae-4b07-9ff0-b6088d3245c8_2258x540.heic 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><ol start="4"><li><p><a href="https://legislatie.just.ro/Public/DetaliiDocument/66305">apoi am deschis legea din 2005 privind concediile medicale, </a>care enumera efectiv categoriile de persoane afectate;</p></li><li><p>apoi am c&#259;utat alte articole de pres&#259; &#537;i ce spun asocia&#539;iile de pacien&#539;i;</p></li><li><p>desigur, am &#238;ntrebat &#537;i st&#259;p&#226;nul nostru, ChatGPT. Mi-a spus exact ce spuneau &#537;tirile &#537;i nu mi-a dat cele dou&#259; informa&#539;ii &#8222;&#238;n premier&#259;&#8221; pe care le-am semnalat eu mai sus. Spun asta nu ca s&#259; m&#259; dau mare, ci doar ca s&#259; subliniez valoarea ad&#259;ugat&#259; pe care (&#238;nc&#259;) o mai aduc;</p></li><li><p>apoi am schimbat patru mailuri cu Dr. Raluca Zoi&#539;anu, sursa mea de &#238;ncredere pentru birocra&#539;ia medical&#259;, ar&#259;t&#226;ndu-i procesul meu &#8222;de g&#226;ndire&#8221;, ca s&#259; verific dac&#259; am &#238;n&#539;eles corect;</p></li><li><p>apoi am sunat &#537;i la CNAS, de unde a&#537;tept de peste o lun&#259; ni&#537;te r&#259;spunsuri despre CM. Am trimis cererea pe 8 aprilie. Pe 4 mai am vorbit cu ofi&#539;erul de pres&#259;, care mi-a spus c&#259; r&#259;spunsul e gata chiar de a doua zi, 9 aprilie, dar c&#259; a&#537;teapt&#259; mai multe semn&#259;turi de la directori &#537;i nu mi-l poate trimite;</p></li><li><p>apoi m-am pierdut &#238;ncerc&#226;nd s&#259; l&#259;muresc care sunt acele &#8222;boli grave&#8221; pentru care prime&#537;ti mai mult de 45 de zile dac&#259; copilul t&#259;u are &#238;ntre 12 &#537;i 18 ani, &#537;i tot a&#537;a.</p></li></ol><div><hr></div><h2><strong>RMN pentru pacien&#539;ii cronici din programele MONITOR &#8211; c&#226;nd o s&#259; avem Guvern plin</strong></h2><p>La fel ca la concediile medicale, e aproape sigur c&#259; se revine asupra unei m&#259;suri care a afectat grav pacien&#539;ii din programele MONITOR care au nevoie s&#259; fac&#259; investiga&#539;ii imagistice periodice, pentru monitorizarea bolii (CT, RMN).</p><p>Doar c&#259;, din nou, modific&#259;rile a&#537;teapt&#259; &#238;n anticamer&#259;: trebuie aprobate prin Ordonan&#539;&#259; de Urgen&#539;&#259;, dar acest acest Guvern interimar Nu are voie s&#259; fac&#259; asta. </p><p>&#206;ntre timp, mii de oameni caut&#259; loc la RMN &#238;n timp ce boala lor se agraveaz&#259; &#537;i tratamentul &#238;nt&#226;rzie &#8211; vreau s&#259; subliniez asta, ca s&#259; &#238;n&#539;elegem mai bine c&#259; &#8222;politica&#8221; nu e &#8222;ce fac ei, acolo, &#238;n Parlament sau &#238;n Guvern, n-avem noi treab&#259;&#8221;. Politica e &#537;i asta, a&#537;a cum politic&#259; e &#537;i cursul explodat al Euro sau banii pierdu&#539;i din PNRR.</p><p><strong>Cronologia:</strong></p><p><strong>2021: apar <a href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/investigatii-in-5-zile-pentru-unii?r=8k6pm">Programele MONITOR</a></strong>, de monitorizare a unor boli cronice (diabet, boli cerebrovasculare, neurologice, cancer etc.), prin care pacien&#539;ii pot face <em>toate</em> investiga&#539;iile de care au nevoie pentru respectiva boal&#259; de c&#226;te ori e nevoie, peste plafon (adic&#259; imediat, f&#259;r&#259; s&#259; caute fonduri luni de zile).</p><p>E important de &#537;tiut c&#259; mul&#539;i au nevoie s&#259; fac&#259; <em>mai multe</em> astfel de investiga&#539;ii &#238;ntr-un an &#537;i, cu siguran&#539;&#259;, nu doar pentru un segment (adic&#259; &#8222;o regiune a corpului&#8221;).</p><p>Ca o persoan&#259; care a beneficiat de asta, pot spune c&#259; a fost mare gur&#259; de oxigen pentru pacien&#539;i &#537;i o bil&#259; alb&#259; pentru sistemul de s&#259;n&#259;tate.</p><p><strong>2026, ianuarie: </strong>cu excep&#539;ia celor cu cancer, oamenii &#259;&#537;tia <a href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/cnas-spune-ceva-pacientilor-si-altceva?r=8k6pm">mai au dreptul</a> **peste plafon** la <strong>un singur PET-CT sau un singur RMN/CT pe an,</strong> pentru <strong>un singur segment</strong>, ceea ce e absolut stupid din punct de vedere medical (ex: doar coloana cervical&#259;, de&#537;i eu am nevoie pentru &#238;ntreaga coloan&#259; &#8211; da, vorbesc chiar de mine).</p><p>E adev&#259;rat c&#259; pot face mai multe RMN-uri &#238;ntr-un an, dac&#259; am nevoie, dar &#238;n acelea&#537;i condi&#539;ii ca toat&#259; lumea, c&#259;ut&#226;nd fonduri &#537;i pun&#226;ndu-se pe liste de a&#537;teptare.</p><p><strong>A fost o decizie:</strong></p><p>&#10060; <strong>neg&#226;ndit&#259; p&#226;n&#259; la cap&#259;t</strong>, gr&#259;bit&#259; din dorin&#539;a de a face economii &#537;i impotent&#259; administrativ &#8211; &#238;n sensul c&#259; nici CNAS, nici &#8222;furnizorii de RMN&#8221; nu pot verifica dac&#259; omul &#259;la &#537;i-a epuizat sau nu RMN-ul peste plafon.</p><blockquote><p>Consecin&#539;ele:</p><ul><li><p>blocaj aproape total c&#226;teva s&#259;pt&#259;m&#226;ni: unele clinici nu mai fac DELOC RMN-uri peste plafon de fric&#259; c&#259; vor trebui s&#259; le pl&#259;teasc&#259; din buzunar;</p></li><li><p>alte clinici inventeaz&#259; &#537;i cer oamenilor declara&#539;ii pe proprie r&#259;spundere c&#259; nu au f&#259;cut deja acel RMN peste plafon, f&#259;r&#259; nicio valoare &#238;ns&#259;, &#537;i f&#259;r&#259; posibilitatea s&#259;-&#537;i recupereze banii de la oameni sau de la Cas&#259; dac&#259; ei mint;</p></li><li><p>pacien&#539;ii cu boli cronice de bun&#259;-credin&#539;&#259; caut&#259; luni de zile loc pentru un RMN pe care &#238;nainte &#238;l puteau face &#238;n cinci zile, conform legii;</p></li><li><p>investiga&#539;iile imagistice scad la jum&#259;tate (47%) fa&#539;&#259; de ianuarie 2025.</p></li></ul></blockquote><p>&#10060; <strong>venit&#259; din neputin&#539;a de a acoperi nevoile tuturor pacien&#539;ilor</strong>, ceea ce e valabil &#238;n orice &#539;ar&#259;. Numai c&#259;, la noi, fondul total pentru investiga&#539;ii imagistice e acela&#537;i ca anul trecut, &#537;i pentru pacien&#539;ii pe MONITOR, &#537;i pentru cei &#8222;obi&#537;nui&#539;i&#8221;, nemul&#539;umi&#539;i pe bun&#259; dreptate c&#259; nu prind loc, deci nu mai bine le d&#259;m primilor ceva (ca s&#259; nu le lu&#259;m tot) &#537;i l&#259;s&#259;m &#8222;pia&#539;a&#8221; s&#259; se auto-regleze?</p><p><strong>&#9996;&#65039;2026, 22 aprilie</strong>: &#238;n ultima zi de mandat a ministrului <a href="https://www.facebook.com/rogobete.alex?__cft__%5B0%5D=AZbHw4VN6_t4QMYLmXO3uqp1pFm3w9m6cxEOkwnSnPguXuARR95jcjfl-aLNilk9wkQUe8ymmImjsoOoD99EIMYq5ufuLV53YvUMtnZYalFASY7YxBY-1Ct4BJg4VsTOrAx4CA3Q7RVt_PPiZPImrkKvCOnXq26SXpLWEyTeA1-aUwqBHxgceJKvOUCbVEPT0BI&amp;__tn__=-%5DK-R">Alexandru Rogobete</a>, &#238;nainte ca PSD s&#259; plece din Guvern, Ministerul <a href="https://ms.ro/ro/transparenta-decizionala/acte-normative-in-transparenta/ordonan%C8%9B%C4%83-de-urgen%C8%9B%C4%83-pentru-modificarea-articolului-ix-alin5-din-ordonan%C8%9Ba-de-urgen%C8%9B%C4%83-a-guvernului-nr-442022-privind-stabilirea-unor-m%C4%83suri-%C3%AEn-cadrul-sistemului-de-s%C4%83n%C4%83tate22426/">pune &#238;n transparen&#539;&#259; decizional&#259;</a> o ordonan&#539;&#259; de urgen&#539;&#259; care pare s&#259; corecteze nedreptatea &#537;i <strong>red&#259; dreptul unor pacien&#539;i pe MONITOR (cei cu boli cardiovasculare, cerebrovasculare, neurologice &#537;i afec&#539;iuni rare) s&#259; fac&#259; </strong><em><strong>oric&#226;te</strong></em><strong> investiga&#539;ii imagistice au nevoie &#238;ntr-un an, peste plafon</strong> (ca &#238;nainte).</p><p><strong>Ce zicea ministrul Rogobete:</strong></p><ul><li><p>pe 15 ianuarie, la Antena3: &#8222;Nu e nimic (dintre modific&#259;ri) &#238;mpotriva pacien&#539;ilor&#8221;;</p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/rogobete.alex/posts/pfbid08xQu4wduuZvPpHb81KhU4BUCMGdRhavVJE1Vq9FdD2Sm2fM2Csic7JzcbYuQnohRl">pe 22 aprilie, pe Facebook</a>: &#8222;Pentru c&#259; sunt ancorat &#238;n realitate, pentru c&#259; sunt responsabil &#537;i empatic, am sim&#539;it nevoia s&#259; intervin urgent &#537;i s&#259; corectez acest dezechilibru creat de m&#259;suri contabile care nu &#539;in cont de oameni&#8221;.</p></li></ul><p><strong>Ce zic eu: </strong>a fost o m&#259;sur&#259; cinic&#259; de reducere a costurilor, mascat&#259; ca echitate fa&#539;&#259; de pacien&#539;ii &#8222;obi&#537;nui&#539;i&#8221; care erau dezavantaja&#539;i, dar care s-a &#238;ntors &#238;mpotriva ini&#539;iatorilor din cauza incapacit&#259;&#539;ii de implementare &#537;i monitorizare a impactului.</p><p>Desigur, a contat foarte mult presiunea asocia&#539;iilor de pacien&#539;i &#537;i a furnizorilor de servicii medicale. Dar presiune a mai fost &#238;n trecut &#537;i pe alte chestiuni &#537;i nu s-a schimbat modificarea. </p><p><em>S&#259; fie repara&#539;ie pe final de mandat?</em></p><p><em>Oportunism politic, c&#259;ci momentul nu e deloc &#238;nt&#226;mpl&#259;tor?</em></p><p><em>Incapacitate administrativ&#259;?</em> (Chiar &#238;n motivarea legii care a&#537;teapt&#259; acum un Guvern plin se spune c&#259;: &#8222;Platforma Informatic&#259; a Asigur&#259;rilor de S&#259;n&#259;tate nu permite verificarea &#238;n timp real a num&#259;rului de investiga&#539;ii efectuate de un pacient, ceea ce face imposibil&#259; aplicarea uniform&#259; a reglement&#259;rii &#537;i genereaz&#259; practici neunitare la nivelul furnizorilor de servicii medicale&#8221;. Serios? Nu &#537;tiau asta dinainte?</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/p/tu-decizi-cine-are-acces-la-informatiile/comments&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Leave a comment&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/tu-decizi-cine-are-acces-la-informatiile/comments"><span>Leave a comment</span></a></p><div><hr></div><p>N-am o concluzie sau vreun g&#226;nd profund &#238;n momentul &#259;sta. Ce &#238;mi spun mie zilele de munc&#259; la aceast&#259; edi&#539;ie &#537;i toate cele trei subiecte atinse e c&#259; nicio reglementare, nicio lege nu sunt ve&#537;nice sau de neatins &#537;i c&#259; avem puterea, &#238;mpreun&#259;, s&#259; cerem s&#259; se schimbe.</p><p>Dar pentru asta trebuie s&#259; muncim &#537;i noi, pacien&#539;ii, medicii, cet&#259;&#539;enii, toat&#259; lumea. S&#259; citim legile existente, s&#259; punem &#238;ntreb&#259;ri, s&#259; g&#226;ndim critic &#537;i s&#259; nu avem memorie scurt&#259;: s&#259; &#539;inem minte cum au argumentat ale&#537;ii unele decizii &#537;i de ce s-au sucit apoi, s&#259; ne &#537;tim drepturile, dar s&#259; ne pl&#259;tim &#537;i taxele.</p><p>S&#259; &#238;n&#539;elegem c&#259; &#8222;statul&#8221; nu e un sac f&#259;r&#259; fund &#537;i c&#259; bunul sim&#539; trebuie s&#259; existe &#238;n toate, &#537;i c&#226;nd e&#537;ti bolnav, &#537;i c&#226;nd e&#537;ti s&#259;n&#259;tos, &#537;i c&#226;nd e&#537;ti e&#537;ti la putere, &#537;i c&#226;nd nu mai e&#537;ti.</p><p>Le mul&#539;umesc celor care m-au ajutat s&#259; &#238;n&#539;eleg subiectele de azi: Monica Althamer, dr. Raluca Zoi&#539;anu (<a href="/__u/ralucazo.substack.com/">pe care o po&#539;i &#537;i citi aici</a>), R&#259;zvan Pavel, Director Legal &amp; Government Affairs Medima, &#537;i Radu Stochi&#539;a, expert &#238;n politici economice &#537;i de munc&#259; (<a href="/__u/bucharestbalancesheet.substack.com/">pe care &#238;l po&#539;i citi aici).</a></p><p>&#536;i, pentru c&#259; tot a fost vorba despre incertitudine &#238;n aceast&#259; edi&#539;ie, iar ce tr&#259;im acum e defini&#539;ia incertitudinii politice, cu efecte majore &#238;n... tot, am c&#226;teva recomand&#259;ri colaterale:</p><ul><li><p><a href="/__u/open.substack.com/pub/andreearosca/p/cum-calculezi-valoarea-viitoare-a?r=8k6pm&amp;utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&amp;utm_medium=web">Aceast&#259; edi&#539;ie a Vast&amp;Curious</a>, newsletterul s&#259;pt&#259;m&#226;nal al Andreei Ro&#537;ca. Vorbe&#537;te despre cum ne mai putem imagina &#8211; &#537;i cum mai putem calcula costurile unui viitor, personal &#537;i colectiv &#8211;, &#238;n aceste condi&#539;ii. Printre solu&#539;ii pentru un pic de claritate zi de zi, deloc surprinz&#259;tor: <a href="https://www.vangemert.dev/blog/nothing?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email">f&#259; ordine &#238;n jurul t&#259;u</a> &#238;nainte s&#259; &#238;ncepi munca. </p><p>Zic asta dup&#259; ce &#238;n ultima s&#259;pt&#259;m&#226;n&#259; am mutat plantele &#238;n ghivece, am (aproape) f&#259;cut curat pe balcon, am <em>shred</em>-uit c&#226;teva sute de foi, &#537;i tot &#238;mi vine s&#259; scap de jum&#259;tate din lucrurile din cas&#259;.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!x0Xz!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc1f8082e-5cde-437f-930e-83122d43a076_4989x3712.heic" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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Mi se pare cel mai bun moment s&#259; reascult&#259;m <a href="https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fplaylist%3Flist%3DPLrou2J0YKGTfs9JUxnWWK00CBe3wjuQco%26fbclid%3DIwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAYnJpZBEwMERiNVhhbHJqSEZHb3VjcHNydGMGYXBwX2lkEDIyMjAzOTE3ODgyMDA4OTIAAR5COL6Z5JXJyVBS6rHzI-eWCo91Eg7YLVzJU6jqZTp7HE4eZrBsr5PAewGMtw_aem_KHvrltzIjTz-M3mWeL2DUw&amp;h=AUCc_fs0oEqvnDB7aBXciF765Plry8lbvNDnUZk0Jv3eO1B6iy0e_WfRPpxOZkgIENrp86FFIkRECvJA_sipMIp0qWiL_8yLxR4eAjgxLvlwjEZLzfL7cjZsU_M-binahpcmDHJsbJCPEHle7x0gm8Absy727raglxc&amp;__tn__=R%5d-R&amp;c%5b0%5d=AUCYvDq5ZGINSQtuMIggjtbWIe_fqeO6hOTjQEAcSLbeN1DMY_nHe2rnObBThfCTGVwPGjTxalS3r0seJa34S055FqkQX_P_Kt78DXgsLek4Yq66Z_Upkm22PZ3dMPg71IbSd0YkA51vnSlnaZtclcxEk1JxPj-1MA5qNygynfzRmHO6xrFM8elk8RVr">podcastul Prea S&#259;rac</a>, g&#259;zduit de Andreea V&#238;lcu &#537;i produs de c&#226;&#539;iva dintre fo&#537;tii mei colegi de la DoR. </p><p>E despre s&#259;r&#259;cia clasei de mijloc &#8211; tocmai cea care se acutizeaz&#259; acum &#8211;, despre conceptul de &#8222;s&#259;r&#259;cie relativ&#259;&#8221; sau despre cum copilul care cre&#537;te cu &#8222;n-avem bani&#8221; va deveni adultul care crede c&#259; nu merit&#259;. </p><p>&#536;i dup&#259; ce asculta&#539;i, v&#259; rog <a href="https://www.ffff.ro/premiile-superscrieri-page/voteaza-superscrierea-cititorilor-15/?ct=t%28EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2_22_2018_COPY_01%29&amp;mc_cid=5647d14559&amp;mc_eid=354f64a257&amp;fbclid=IwY2xjawRrztBleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETAwRGI1WGFscmpIRkdvdWNwc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHj7I-lPBbFVzcX61fLyjy7Gh8Hb4AP2Gl253cFSj1JAm0OHsJZN0_2FP_xHQ_aem_5RUZluk6mHyBEY30OPUErw">vota&#539;i-o pe Andreea la un premiu al cititorilor</a> la cea mai important&#259; competi&#539;ie de jurnalism de la noi, Superscrieri (o g&#259;si&#539;i la sec&#539;iunea Jurnalism Tematic). P&#226;n&#259; vineri, inclusiv.</p></li></ul><p>Pe data viitoare!</p><p><em>Foaia de observa&#539;ie este o publica&#539;ie sus&#539;inut&#259; de <a href="https://www.ppcenergy.ro">PPC</a>. </em></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Cum folosim AI-ul când mergem la medic]]></title><description><![CDATA[&#536;i un cadou de ziua mea.]]></description><link>https://sorana.substack.com/p/cum-folosim-ai-ul-cand-mergem-la</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://sorana.substack.com/p/cum-folosim-ai-ul-cand-mergem-la</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Sorana Stănescu]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2026 04:01:39 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/youtube/w_728,c_limit/vrkNSCqLk6Y" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salut,</p><p>&#537;i bine te-am reg&#259;sit, cu &#238;nt&#226;rziere din cauza a dou&#259; conferin&#539;e care mi-au cerut toat&#259; energia de &#238;nceput de prim&#259;var&#259;. La <a href="http://thepowerofstorytelling.org/">The Power of Storytelling</a> am fost &#238;n echipa de organizare, iar la <a href="https://hhc2026.vfairs.com/en/?fbclid=IwY2xjawRB7ZtleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFyRzlwYVlNRGN4UlZGdTlNc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHgpwfUOQEcxu3elG9tGGJ0yXyss0xtRFV1ZeAx99hVyWQmGiRsa6708i3i5U_aem_GBOVHnZz2dTwrXzCN3jQIg">aceast&#259; conferin&#539;&#259; interna&#539;ional&#259; de </a><em><a href="https://hhc2026.vfairs.com/en/?fbclid=IwY2xjawRB7ZtleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFyRzlwYVlNRGN4UlZGdTlNc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHgpwfUOQEcxu3elG9tGGJ0yXyss0xtRFV1ZeAx99hVyWQmGiRsa6708i3i5U_aem_GBOVHnZz2dTwrXzCN3jQIg">health humanities</a></em><a href="https://hhc2026.vfairs.com/en/?fbclid=IwY2xjawRB7ZtleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFyRzlwYVlNRGN4UlZGdTlNc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHgpwfUOQEcxu3elG9tGGJ0yXyss0xtRFV1ZeAx99hVyWQmGiRsa6708i3i5U_aem_GBOVHnZz2dTwrXzCN3jQIg"> din US</a> voi vorbi m&#226;ine despre transport ca determinant al s&#259;n&#259;t&#259;&#539;ii &#238;n Rom&#226;nia.</p><p>Suntem &#238;nainte de Pa&#537;te, a&#537;a c&#259; &#238;ncerc s&#259; vin cu o veste bun&#259; &#537;i mai multe recomand&#259;ri de citit/ascultat/v&#259;zut. Recunosc c&#259; nu &#238;nt&#226;mpl&#259;tor am c&#259;utat mai mult&#259; lini&#537;te &#238;n edi&#539;ia asta. Aprilie e o perioad&#259; mai ciudat&#259; pentru mine.</p><p>Simt mult&#259; fragilitate, pentru c&#259; &#238;n aprilie acum &#537;ase ani am primit diagnosticul care a schimbat modul &#238;n care tr&#259;iesc &#537;i m&#259; uit la via&#539;&#259;. &#206;n aprilie anul acesta am &#238;ncheiat o colaborare profesional&#259; important&#259;, iar &#238;n jur v&#259;d c&#259; lumea r&#259;m&#226;ne f&#259;r&#259; joburi &#537;i oportunit&#259;&#539;ile sunt tot mai rare. Vine ziua mea, deci iar un bilan&#539;, vreau, nu vreau. Am citit &#537;i <a href="https://hotnews.ro/dupa-ce-pacientii-s-au-plans-ca-nu-mai-au-acces-de-luni-de-zile-la-analize-decontate-furnizorii-de-servicii-medicale-confirma-o-scadere-semnificativa-a-volumului-de-investigatii-2211990">m&#259;rturia unui t&#226;n&#259;r</a> cu o boal&#259; cronic&#259; extrem de serioas&#259;, care de patru luni nu reu&#537;e&#537;te s&#259; fac&#259; un RMN gratuit dup&#259; ce s-au schimbat regulile pentru pacien&#539;ii din programele MONITOR. &#536;i &#537;tiu c&#259; asta m&#259; a&#537;teapt&#259; &#537;i pe mine cur&#226;nd.</p><p>&#536;i apropo de cum &#539;i se schimb&#259; via&#539;a, <a href="https://youtube.com/shorts/vrkNSCqLk6Y?si=6jumoijUwAvtM-ru">am &#238;nregistrat acest mesaj</a> la o &#238;nt&#226;lnire a <a href="https://www.facebook.com/rabdareoptimismzambet">Asocia&#539;iei Roz</a>, care sus&#539;ine pacien&#539;ii cu cancer &#537;i extinde discu&#539;ia despre s&#259;n&#259;tate &#537;i boal&#259; c&#259;tre tineri (aici eram la Facultatea de Filosofie):</p><div id="youtube2-vrkNSCqLk6Y" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;vrkNSCqLk6Y&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/vrkNSCqLk6Y?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p>Chiar cred c&#259; boala nu este niciodat&#259; doar a noastr&#259;, chiar dac&#259; noi suntem cei care o ducem, &#537;i cu asta trebuie s&#259; facem pace &#8211; &#537;i noi, &#537;i cei de l&#226;ng&#259; noi.</p><p>Ca s&#259; &#238;nchei m&#259;rturisirea despre aprilie: dac&#259; sim&#539;i&#539;i c&#259; munca mea conteaz&#259; &#537;i vre&#539;i s&#259;-mi face&#539;i un cadou, pute&#539;i alege un abonament pl&#259;tit la Foaia de observa&#539;ie: 7 EUR/lun&#259;, 80 EUR/an sau 150 EUR/an, ca membru fondator &#8211; sunt sumele din care platforma Substack &#537;i procesatorul de pl&#259;&#539;i Stripe &#238;&#537;i re&#539;in comisioanele, &#537;i pentru care eu pl&#259;tesc impozit. Mi-am propus o &#539;int&#259; de 10 abonamente &#238;n urm&#259;toarea lun&#259;.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Apas&#259; aici ca s&#259; &#238;&#539;i faci un abonament pl&#259;tit. Dac&#259; ai unul deja, &#238;&#539;i mul&#539;umesc.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p></p><blockquote><p>&#536;i mai e ceva: voi scrie despre <a href="https://asociatiacompas.ro/">Asocia&#539;ia COMPAS</a> &#537;i munca fantastic&#259; pe care o face pentru consolidarea &#537;i profesionalizarea navigatorilor de pacien&#539;i, &#238;n paralel cu crearea primului registru de navigatori din Rom&#226;nia &#537;i cu rezolvarea a zeci de cazuri pe lun&#259;. Dac&#259; tu sau cineva drag a trecut prin cancer &#537;i ar fi avut nevoie de un ghid prin tot parcursul bolii, de la g&#259;sit second opinion &#537;i servicii de kinetoterapie sau nutri&#539;ie, la l&#259;muriri despre concediul medical, te rog scrie-mi. Sunt curioas&#259; cum v-a&#539;i descurcat singuri &#537;i ce solu&#539;ii a&#539;i g&#259;sit p&#226;n&#259; la urm&#259;.</p></blockquote><div><hr></div><h2>Primul centru reziden&#539;ial post-cur&#259; pentru tratamentul adic&#539;iilor</h2><p>Trec acum la un lucru care m-a bucurat mult &#238;n perioada asta, pentru c&#259; e o izb&#226;nd&#259; &#238;ntr-un domeniu despre care to&#539;i vorbesc, dar pu&#539;ini fac: s-a deschis la Bucure&#537;ti primul centru reziden&#539;ial de tratament post-cur&#259; &#238;n adic&#539;ii pentru adul&#539;i. </p><p>E de stat, e gratuit, &#537;i e f&#259;cut cu viziune. Iat&#259; ce am sim&#539;it s&#259; scriu &#238;n ziua aceea:</p><p>&#8222;Lumea lor se destram&#259;, a&#537;a c&#259; &#238;ncerc&#259;m s&#259; reconstruim acest ora&#537; intern &#238;mpreun&#259;&#8221;, i-a explicat dr. Eugen Hriscu ministrului Alexandru Rogobete desenele realizate de artistul Arpi Rezi la <a href="https://cetttsfantulstelian.ro/">Centrul de Evaluare &#537;i Tratament al Toxicodependen&#539;elor pentru Tineri &#8222;Sf. Stelian&#8221;</a>.</p><p>Vorbea despre tinerii adul&#539;i cu dependen&#539;e, pentru care de acum exist&#259; primul centru <em>reziden&#539;ial</em> de tratament gratuit &#238;ntr-un spital de stat, amenajat printr-o colaborare care, &#238;n mai pu&#539;in de doi ani, a &#238;nregistrat a doua victorie: un spital de stat care are deschidere de a &#238;nv&#259;&#539;a &#537;i ambi&#539;ie de a &#238;nfrunta birocra&#539;ia, un ONG care mut&#259; mun&#539;ii &#537;i-apoi &#238;i aranjeaz&#259; la loc, <a href="https://www.zidebine.ro/">Asocia&#539;ia Zi de BINE</a>, &#537;i o echip&#259; de speciali&#537;ti de la ceea ce eu consider cea mai competent&#259; clinic&#259; privat&#259; de tratament al adic&#539;iilor, <a href="https://atelier-psy.ro/">Atelier PSY</a>, care a venit cu expertiza.</p><p>&#8222;Sf. Stelian&#8221; interneaz&#259; &#537;i trateaz&#259; adul&#539;i cu dependen&#539;e de 13 ani, dar numai &#238;n fazele acute, adic&#259; 7-10 zile. Vin de obicei &#238;n sevraj, uneori adu&#537;i de familie &#537;i pleac&#259; dup&#259; ce nu mai sunt considera&#539;i un pericol pentru ei sau pentru ceilal&#539;i. Doar c&#259;, &#238;n lipsa unui program de recuperare &#537;i sprijin pe termen lung, mul&#539;i recad.</p><p>Centrul CREAATIV va oferi exact bucata asta lips&#259; de tratament post-cur&#259; de o lun&#259;, pentru care p&#226;n&#259; acum cine &#238;&#537;i permitea pl&#259;tea c&#226;teva mii de lei &#238;ntr-un centru privat mai mult sau mai pu&#539;in competent, iar cine nu &#8211; nu.</p><p>CREAATIV &#238;nseamn&#259;, de fapt, un etaj &#238;n cadrul acestui spital, care a fost re-amenajat complet: cinci rezerve cu baie proprie, cabinete de terapie individual&#259; &#537;i de grup, o sal&#259; pentru recuperare fizic&#259;, un atelier pentru ergoterapie colectiv&#259; (adic&#259; terapie ocupa&#539;ional&#259;), o buc&#259;t&#259;rie comun&#259; &#537;i, cel mai important, un program terapeutic integrat pentru pacien&#539;i &#537;i un program de formare de un an pentru echipa medical&#259; &#537;i auxiliar&#259;.</p><div class="image-gallery-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;gallery&quot;:{&quot;images&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/38fcc6c7-1d4f-43e4-ba73-b8671368ef44_2048x1365.jpeg&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/4cd6449d-c1b5-43d7-9f9f-0aadce6098b3_1280x853.jpeg&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/a82e84de-f92d-4937-b585-613a1b820925_1280x854.jpeg&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9b5d8f4e-cfc5-4682-8b71-8f5a32f732c2_2048x1365.jpeg&quot;}],&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;Foto: Asocia&#539;ia Zi de BINE&quot;,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;staticGalleryImage&quot;:{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/6f715f52-4084-4c29-9bc9-483db9c642a2_1456x1456.png&quot;}},&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true}"></div><p><br>Da, cinci locuri pot p&#259;rea pu&#539;ine, dar &#238;nseamn&#259; 50 de intern&#259;ri pe an, iar capacitatea poate cre&#537;te p&#226;n&#259; la 100. Planul e ca p&#226;n&#259; &#238;n 2030 s&#259; existe cinci <a href="https://www.zidebine.ro/proiecte/creaativ/">centre CREAATIV</a> &#238;n &#539;ar&#259;.</p><p>&#8222;Imaginea c&#259; pacien&#539;ii dependen&#539;i nu vor s&#259; se trateze e gre&#537;it&#259;&#8221;, a mai spus dr. Hriscu, coordonatorul &#537;tiin&#539;ific al programului de recuperare, care a implementat acela&#537;i model &#537;i la <a href="https://spitalulvoila.ro/">Spitalul de Psihiatrie Voila</a> acum doi ani. Aici e primul centru CREAATIV &#8211; de data asta pentru minori &#8211;, f&#259;cut tot cu Zi de Bine.</p><p>Pe la Voila au trecut 200 de copii, iar rata de reinternare a fost de doar 15%. Centrul se sus&#539;ine acum integral din bugetul spitalului &#537;i Ministerul a aprobat o cre&#537;tere a personalului. Pentru c&#259;, iat&#259;, nu doar nevoia e mare, ci &#537;i capacitatea de r&#259;spuns.</p><p>Despre Voila &#537;i &#8222;Sf. Stelian&#8221; ve&#539;i mai auzi, &#537;i tot n-ar fi suficient.</p><p>Eu vreau s&#259; mai adaug c&#259; Zi de BINE &#537;i echipa de speciali&#537;ti creat&#259; &#238;n jurul proiectului lucreaz&#259; cu viziune: nu &#8222;doar&#8221; c&#259; amenajeaz&#259; saloane &#537;i vin cu abord&#259;ri diferite, ci creeaz&#259; &#238;n paralel un lan&#539; &#238;ntreg, de la un program <em>peer to peer education</em> pentru liceeni (<a href="https://www.zidebine.ro/proiecte/kit-keep-in-touch/">KIT - Keep in touch</a>), la tratament (<a href="https://www.zidebine.ro/proiecte/creaativ/">centrele CREAATIV</a>) &#537;i sprijin pe termen lung (<a href="https://www.zidebine.ro/proiecte/re-creativ/">centrul RE.creativ, &#238;n Bucure&#537;ti</a>), la <a href="https://adictiiadolescenti.zidebine.ro/retea/">o re&#539;ea na&#539;ional&#259; de 500 de speciali&#537;ti</a> &#238;n s&#259;n&#259;tate mintal&#259;, pe care &#238;i formeaz&#259; &#537;i &#238;i aduce la un numitor comun, iar asta e vital.</p><p>&#536;i mai e ceva ce n-am scris atunci, pe 16 martie, c&#226;nd s-a deschis, pentru c&#259; nu eram sigur&#259;. Dar am confirmat &#238;ntre timp: la conferin&#539;a de pres&#259; de inaugurare, l&#226;ng&#259; toate oficialit&#259;&#539;ile, de la ministru la Prima Doamn&#259; Mirabela Gr&#259;dinaru, cei de la Zi de BINE i-au prezentat &#537;i pe me&#537;terii care au renovat saloanele &#537;i au cobor&#226;t tone de moloz &#238;n spate patru etaje. </p><p>Au trecut pe l&#226;ng&#259; mine c&#226;nd ie&#537;eam &#537;i-am crezut c&#259; sunt fo&#537;ti pacien&#539;i, bucuro&#537;i de reu&#537;ita vindec&#259;rii. Dar erau trei b&#259;rba&#539;i care lucreaz&#259; de ani de zile cu asocia&#539;ia, &#537;i at&#226;ta m&#226;ndrie c&#226;t&#259; lucea &#238;n ochii lor eu n-am v&#259;zut de mult.</p><p>Ce vreau s&#259; spun cu asta: cineva care pre&#539;uie&#537;te &#537;i scoate &#238;n fa&#539;&#259; munca unor oameni simpli, care, aparent, fac o meserie banal&#259; &#238;n marea economie a proiectului, merit&#259; respectul, &#238;ncrederea &#537;i sprijinul nostru (<a href="https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fredirectioneaza.ro%2Fzi-de-bine%2F%3Ffbclid%3DIwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAYnJpZBExckc5cGFZTURjeFJWRnU5TXNydGMGYXBwX2lkEDIyMjAzOTE3ODgyMDA4OTIAAR4bIsCPHjBSLemFM2wY4a9EzI485HTDr_Y3zICOGyD0uY-KUEjskbWjusIXrQ_aem_t5DH4JEDW8Vfs-dsHEcmGw&amp;h=AT6dW3AybNaPTThWIXIB3HDSVLwjx8R_eWYNAVMEr2zqwTqFRaxk38m8nMPE6CJ8g9BZqFinPGgoVK4c7dYiAE7F4m4pyQOCOi_-6LjP0zekbpqweyYozpbKCrs-I14egOoWIhZudQpX0zvidHPjUiurSQu4ACeVBJk&amp;__tn__=R%5d-R&amp;c%5b0%5d=AT7voZHT517rw8yON2Dp64uAr2rpiujOHIXFf4xwYuvgkQwzv5L_hJF60cEl8oKKgUCTAC9ZcJbvoq493-Oq90Ixbv8FyhmmHSlA70R6F7z0zOSKeNvLj40W_Nx-UTEnGAPoMAxxSuzet_lhyGvpEy5f91iTmkwzjC7qiReWjejVNhsqobZ-gCLQnhF8rQg">aici po&#539;i s&#259; sus&#539;ii Zi de BINE cu cei 3,5%</a> din impozitul pe care oricum &#238;l pl&#259;te&#537;ti la stat).</p><div class="captioned-button-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/p/cum-folosim-ai-ul-cand-mergem-la?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="CaptionedButtonToDOM"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">&#536;tii pe cineva c&#259;ruia i-ar fi de folos aceste informa&#539;ii? Trimite-i articolul. </p></div><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/p/cum-folosim-ai-ul-cand-mergem-la?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/cum-folosim-ai-ul-cand-mergem-la?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p></div><p></p><div><hr></div><h2>Prima zi de concediu medical &#8211; tot nepl&#259;tit&#259;</h2><p>Am &#238;ns&#259; &#537;i dou&#259; ve&#537;ti proaste &#537;i nu vreau s&#259; trec peste ele:</p><ul><li><p><a href="https://tvrinfo.ro/proiect-amanat-din-lipsa-avizelor-fara-exceptii-la-plata-unei-zile-de-concediu-medical/">prima zi de concediu medical r&#259;m&#226;ne f&#259;r&#259; plat&#259;</a> pentru acele categorii pe care ministrul S&#259;n&#259;t&#259;&#539;ii s-a l&#259;udat c&#259; le va scuti (pacien&#539;ii din Programele Na&#539;ionale de S&#259;n&#259;tate, cei &#238;n spitalizare de zi sau continu&#259; &#537;i femeile &#238;n risc maternal, &#238;n concediu de maternitate sau care &#238;ngrijesc un copil bolnav) &#8211; <a href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/cnas-spune-ceva-pacientilor-si-altceva">am scris edi&#539;ia trecut&#259;</a> despre asta.</p><p>Ministerul a f&#259;cut &#238;ntr-adev&#259;r o propunere de Ordonan&#539;&#259; de Urgen&#539;&#259;, dar ea nu a primit avize de la trei mini&#537;tri, a&#537;a c&#259; &#8222;r&#259;m&#226;ne cum am stabilit&#8221;. </p><p>Mai mult, e vorba de <strong>prima zi din </strong><em><strong>fiecare certificat de concediu medical</strong></em>, nu din fiecare episod de boal&#259; (de exemplu, tu faci o opera&#539;ie la um&#259;r pentru care ai nevoie de repaos o lun&#259;: prime&#537;ti un certificat pentru statul &#238;n spital, unul pentru dou&#259; s&#259;pt&#259;m&#226;ni &#537;i &#238;nc&#259; unul c&#226;nd mergi la control, deci trei zile nepl&#259;tite).</p></li><li><p>Pacien&#539;ii din programele MONITOR vor putea face <strong>un RMN/an peste plafon doar pentru un segment</strong> (&#8222;o por&#539;iune&#8221;), nu pentru tot ce ar avea nevoie, ceea ce e un nonsens &#8211; nici asta nu s-a schimbat. </p><p>Concret, un pacient cu scleroz&#259; multipl&#259; trebuie s&#259; fac&#259; anual un RMN cerebral, de coloan&#259; cervical&#259; &#537;i coloan&#259; toracal&#259;, pe care p&#226;n&#259; acum le f&#259;cea odat&#259;, dar din 2026 va putea face peste plafon, adic&#259; imediat, doar RMN-ul cerebral. Pentru restul prime&#537;te trimitere, dar va a&#537;tepta fonduri luni de zile. &#536;i pacien&#539;ii, &#537;i clinicile care fac RMN &#238;n contract cu Casa au cerut &#238;n ultimele dou&#259; luni revenirea la regula veche, dar nimic.</p></li></ul><div><hr></div><p>Iar dac&#259; ai ajuns p&#226;n&#259; aici, te las cu ni&#537;te lucruri utile &#537;i pl&#259;cute, de consumat (intelectual) p&#226;n&#259; la edi&#539;ia viitoare:</p><p>&#128204; <a href="https://www.facebook.com/traian.mihaescu/posts/pfbid0sYqSM9MKcbRzm5m3bYXoEegTdWFSqzJhDWQZUX2AWWaqCU4BbYvPUvFTQ6KbUcHHl">Ghid despre cum s&#259; folose&#537;ti AI-ul &#238;nainte de vizita la medic</a>. Nu, nu pentru diagnosticare, ci ca un &#8222;partener &#238;n g&#226;ndire&#8221;, pentru a-&#539;i ordona informa&#539;ia &#537;i a-&#539;i clarifica &#238;ntreb&#259;rile pe care s&#259; le adresezi. Scris de un medic rom&#226;n, prof. univ. dr. Traian Mih&#259;escu.</p><div class="file-embed-wrapper" data-component-name="FileToDOM"><div class="file-embed-container-reader"><div class="file-embed-container-top"><image class="file-embed-thumbnail" src="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!C_PH!,w_400,h_600,c_fill,f_auto,q_auto:best,fl_progressive:steep,g_auto/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fac46c622-92ed-4051-8a0e-774059a71283_442x484.png"></image><div class="file-embed-details"><div class="file-embed-details-h1">Ghid AI pacien&#539;i</div><div class="file-embed-details-h2">3.63MB &#8729; PDF file</div></div><a class="file-embed-button wide" href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/api/v1/file/fd8e7dbe-df2e-41f8-a3c2-3677626abd32.pdf"><span class="file-embed-button-text">Download</span></a></div><div class="file-embed-description">Ghid despre cum s&#259; folose&#537;ti AI-ul &#238;nainte &#537;i dup&#259; o vizit&#259; la medic, realizat de prof. dr. Traian Mih&#259;escu, UMF &#8222;Gr. T. Popa&#8221;, Ia&#537;i.</div><a class="file-embed-button narrow" href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/api/v1/file/fd8e7dbe-df2e-41f8-a3c2-3677626abd32.pdf"><span class="file-embed-button-text">Download</span></a></div></div><p></p><p>&#128204; <a href="https://www.facebook.com/LucianNegoitaPsihoterapeut/posts/pfbid022bMJCoMpbPooQapKmLhLeFvoT2KWx3RoKJAWwu6bq7Tuh8AdzzykoqP7FuTnRaySl">La ce s&#259; fii atent, &#238;n rela&#539;ie cu psihologul/psihoterapeutul t&#259;u</a> (<a href="/__u/open.substack.com/pub/sorana/p/diferenta-dintre-un-psiholog-si-un?r=8k6pm&amp;utm_campaign=post&amp;utm_medium=web">am explicat aici diferen&#539;a</a> dintre ei). De exemplu, vezi dac&#259; are tendin&#539;a s&#259; te judece sau dac&#259; nevoile tale sunt minimizate. O completare de la mine: ca s&#259; verifici dac&#259; cel din fa&#539;a ta e psiholog, mergi pe site-ul Colegiul Psihologilor, <a href="https://www.copsi.ro/index.php/registre">Registre / Registrul Unic al Psihologilor, Partea I</a>, iar dac&#259; e psihoterapeut &#8211; pe <a href="https://psihoterapie-federatie.ro/membrii-frp/registrul-psihoterapeutilor/">site-ul Federa&#539;iei Rom&#226;ne de Psihoterapie</a>.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p>&#128204; <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR03fiRw3Aw">Neuro&#537;tiin&#539;a rela&#539;iilor s&#259;n&#259;toase</a> &#8211; un interviu cu psihologa &#537;i psihoterapeuta C&#259;t&#259;lina Dumitrescu, pe care eu o g&#259;sesc cea mai limpede voce ca s&#259; explice ultimele evolu&#539;ii &#238;n psihologie &#537;i nu numai. Aici, de exemplu, explic&#259; de ce nu e suficient s&#259; repar&#259;m rela&#539;ia cu mama, tata, cu femininul sau masculinul din noi, ci trebuie s&#259; &#238;n&#539;elegem pu&#539;in&#259; neurofiziologie. Face&#539;i-v&#259; cadou de Pa&#537;te <em><a href="https://carturesti.ro/carte/pretul-libertatii-4810632404">Pre&#539;ul libert&#259;&#539;ii</a></em>, ultima ei carte, despre rela&#539;ia dintre libertate, societate &#537;i s&#259;n&#259;tate mintal&#259;.</p><p>&#128204; <a href="https://theconversation.com/the-5am-myth-why-waking-early-wont-make-you-more-successful-276031?utm_medium=email&amp;utm_campaign=Europe%20Newsletter%20-%203693637771&amp;utm_content=Europe%20Newsletter%20-%203693637771%20CID_0cb325f818194505b55c94cfed44e704&amp;utm_source=campaign_monitor_europe&amp;utm_term=The%205am%20myth%20why%20waking%20early%20wont%20make%20you%20more%20successful">Nu ai mai mult succes dac&#259; te treze&#537;ti cu noaptea &#238;n cap</a>, &#238;n ciuda a ce v&#259; spun cei din <a href="https://voxa.ro/audiobooks/the-5-am-club?srsltid=AfmBOopE2gWrox5yrptUWXpUWKaTnFO0YipEPwRQkqrf5tadgfHrpRnD">cluburile 5 AM</a>, pe care cu to&#539;ii i-am invidiat la un moment dat. Mult mai util este s&#259;-&#539;i &#238;n&#539;elegi propriul ritm &#537;i s&#259; lucrezi cu el, nu &#238;mpotriva lui. (Am g&#259;sit articolul &#238;n <a href="/__u/andreearosca.substack.com/">newsletter-ul Andreei Ro&#537;ca</a>, la care v&#259; &#238;ndemn s&#259; v&#259; abona&#539;i pentru doza s&#259;pt&#259;m&#226;nal&#259; de g&#226;ndire critic&#259;.)</p><p>&#128204; <a href="https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20260130-is-it-really-possible-to-bank-sleep-for-later?at_campaign_type=owned&amp;at_medium=emails&amp;at_objective=awareness&amp;at_ptr_type=email&amp;at_ptr_name=salesforce&amp;at_campaign=healthfix&amp;at_email_send_date=20260204&amp;at_send_id=4541140&amp;at_link_title=https%3a%2f%2fwww.bbc.com%2ffuture%2farticle%2f20260130-is-it-really-possible-to-bank-sleep-for-later&amp;at_bbc_team=crm&amp;at_audience_id=219516479">Cum recuper&#259;m somnul pierdut?</a> Se pare c&#259; nu-l recuper&#259;m, dar unele studii arat&#259; c&#259; ar fi posibil s&#259; dormim &#8222;&#238;n avans&#8221;. <a href="https://www.bustle.com/wellness/olympians-sleep-tips-winter-olympics-jet-lag-naps-melatonin?utm_medium=email&amp;utm_source=ten_tabs&amp;utm_campaign=&amp;position=10&amp;category=fascinating_stories&amp;scheduled_corpus_item_id=a1dbf5f0-7ef3-426a-822a-59319c6a2e30&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bustle.com%2Fwellness%2Folympians-sleep-tips-winter-olympics-jet-lag-naps-melatonin">Plus 12 sfaturi despre somn</a> de la sportivi olimpici &#537;i <a href="https://www.popsci.com/health/best-sleep-position/?utm_medium=email&amp;utm_source=ten_tabs&amp;utm_campaign=&amp;position=8&amp;category=fascinating_stories&amp;scheduled_corpus_item_id=499e8635-fdaa-437c-a513-ea2dd7a958b6&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.popsci.com%2Fhealth%2Fbest-sleep-position%2F">cele mai bune pozi&#539;ii</a> pentru dormit.</p><p>&#128204; <a href="https://www.health.com/is-coffee-bad-for-your-teeth-7488391#msdynmkt_trackingcontext=f06523d1-8012-4062-963a-1c11ec450000">Cum (&#537;i c&#226;nd) s&#259; bei cafea f&#259;r&#259; s&#259;-&#539;i p&#259;tezi din&#539;ii</a>. Un pont: cu paiul.</p><p>&#128204; <a href="https://med.stanford.edu/news/insights/2025/12/supplements-five-myths-worth-busting.html?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email">5 mituri despre suplimentele alimentare, de la Stanford</a>. Pe majoritatea le cunoa&#537;te&#539;i, dar nu cred c&#259; &#537;tia&#539;i c&#259; nu tot surplusul de vitamine se elimin&#259; prin urin&#259;. Unele &#8222;se adun&#259;&#8221; &#238;n organism &#537;i d&#259;uneaz&#259;.</p><p>&#128204; <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/interactives/aging-in-place/">Cum s&#259;-&#539;i adaptezi fiecare camer&#259; din cas&#259;</a>, odat&#259; cu v&#226;rsta, ca s&#259; o faci mai sigur&#259;. Unele lucruri sunt evidente, precum un scaun de du&#537; sau bare pentru sus&#539;inere ca s&#259; te ajute s&#259; te ridici, altele mai pu&#539;in: renun&#539;&#259; la covoare &#537;i chiar la pragurile de la u&#537;i, dac&#259; po&#539;i, rearanjeaz&#259; dulapurile din buc&#259;t&#259;rie astfel &#238;nc&#226;t s&#259; nu trebuiasc&#259; s&#259; te apleci sau urci pe scaun.</p><p>&#128204; Secretul fericirii? Sigur, calitatea rela&#539;iilor, dar, mai exact, <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/10/well/lyubomirsky-reis-how-to-feel-loved.html?unlocked_article_code=1.LlA.GhLr.Ic9BP_F2CA5r&amp;smid=url-share&amp;utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email">sentimentul de a fi iubit</a>.</p><p><em>&#128204; <a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/7FxvBwvcu1lfhJSVAdJuTq?si=0D5glJ2CRI-ChKahwWvyWQ">The Bravest Souls</a></em>, o melodie compus&#259; de talentata Krrysopher special pentru conferin&#539;a The Power of Storytelling, a c&#259;rei tem&#259; a fost &#8221;<em>Hope [is a choice]</em>&#8221; (speran&#539;a e o alegere).</p><p>Mul&#539;umesc, pe cur&#226;nd!</p><p>Sorana</p><p></p><p><em>Foaia de observa&#539;ie este o publica&#539;ie sus&#539;inut&#259; de <a href="https://www.ppcenergy.ro/cine-suntem/">PPC</a>.</em></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[CNAS spune ceva pacienților și altceva clinicilor]]></title><description><![CDATA[&#537;i cum r&#259;m&#226;ne cu concediul medical]]></description><link>https://sorana.substack.com/p/cnas-spune-ceva-pacientilor-si-altceva</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://sorana.substack.com/p/cnas-spune-ceva-pacientilor-si-altceva</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Sorana Stănescu]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2026 05:01:12 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HE7u!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcd338488-6236-40be-9b4c-4b0389e01a6e_1668x1076.heic" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salut &#537;i bine ne-am reg&#259;sit &#238;n aceast&#259; zi a c&#226;rti&#539;ei care este februarie!</p><p>&#206;ntr-o societate care &#238;&#537;i respect&#259; cet&#259;&#539;enii, edi&#539;ia de azi nu ar trebui s&#259; existe. Pentru c&#259; tot ce fac e s&#259; explic ni&#537;te modific&#259;ri &#537;i r&#259;zg&#226;ndiri la modific&#259;ri care afecteaz&#259; milioane de oameni &#537;i care, pentru c&#259; nu au fost g&#226;ndite p&#226;n&#259; la cap&#259;t, au creat haos at&#226;t printre pacien&#539;i, c&#226;t &#537;i printre clinici &#537;i laboratoare.</p><p>Vorbim despre:</p><ol><li><p>ce &#238;nseamn&#259; acel unic RMN sau CT pe care cei din programele MONITOR &#238;l mai pot face peste plafon;</p></li><li><p>cui &#238;i va fi pl&#259;tit&#259; prima zi de concediu medical (CM) &#537;i cui nu, dup&#259; ce Guvernul s-a r&#259;zg&#226;ndit;</p></li><li><p>cum po&#539;i avea concediu medical dac&#259; e&#537;ti freelancer</p></li></ol><p>iar la final am dou&#259; recomand&#259;ri &#8211; de ascultat &#537;i de participat.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share Foaia de observa&#539;ie&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Share Foaia de observa&#539;ie</span></a></p><h2><strong><br>Bulib&#259;&#537;eala cu biletele de trimitere pe MONITOR</strong></h2><p><strong>MONITOR = </strong>programe prin care unii pacien&#539;i cronici, cu boli extrem de severe (M2 - cancer, M3 - diabet, M4 - boli cardiovasculare, M5 boli rare, M6 - neurologice, M7 - cerebrovasculare &#537;i M8 - boal&#259; cronic&#259; renal&#259;) aveau din 2021 ni&#537;te &#8222;facilit&#259;&#539;i&#8221; &#238;n plus fa&#539;&#259; de restul asigura&#539;ilor: acces la toate investiga&#539;iile necesare bolii lor peste plafon, &#238;n cinci zile de c&#226;nd le solicitau. (<a href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/investigatii-in-5-zile-pentru-unii">Am scris despre ele aici</a>, mai demult.)</p><p><strong>Doar c&#259;, de la 1 ianuarie:</strong></p><ul><li><p>Doar pacien&#539;ii cu cancer (adic&#259; MONITOR 2) mai au toate aceste drepturi.</p></li><li><p>Cei din MONITOR 3-8 fac <em>o singur&#259; investiga&#539;ie de &#238;nalt&#259; performan&#539;&#259; sau medicin&#259; nuclear&#259; pe an</em> (CT, RMN, angiografie sau scintigrafie), <em>peste plafon</em>, teoretic &#238;n termen de cinci zile (vezi mai jos de ce spun &#8222;teoretic&#8221;). Iar dac&#259; au nevoie de o a doua, primesc bilet, dar trebuie s&#259; g&#259;seasc&#259; clinic&#259; sau spital cu fonduri, la fel ca toat&#259; lumea.</p></li><li><p>Idem pentru restul investiga&#539;iilor paraclinice (analize, ecografii): cei din MONITOR 3-8 fac doar dac&#259; furnizorul are fonduri &#238;n luna respectiv&#259;. Dac&#259; nu, caut&#259; unul care are.</p></li></ul><p><a href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/interviu-presedintele-cnas-despre">Justificarea pe care mi-a dat-o</a> pre&#537;edintele Casei Na&#539;ionale de Asigur&#259;ri luna trecut&#259; a fost c&#259; m&#259;sura a avut sens doar &#238;n perioada pandemiei &#537;i c&#259; &#238;i &#8222;discrimina negativ&#8221;, &#238;i &#8222;sacrifica&#8221; (cuvinte folosite de el) pe cei cu afec&#539;iuni acute, care trebuiau s&#259; a&#537;tepte &#537;i de multe ori s&#259; pl&#259;teasc&#259; din buzunar.</p><blockquote><p>Pentru mine, ca pacient pe MONITOR, s&#259; &#537;tiu c&#259; puteam face acele investiga&#539;ii imediat, f&#259;r&#259; s&#259; caut clinici cu fonduri, era o mare, mare lini&#537;te. Acum mi se pare c&#259; sunt &#238;ntr-o competi&#539;ie cu toat&#259; lumea ca s&#259; g&#259;sesc un loc, timp &#238;n care afec&#539;iunea mea poate avansa.</p></blockquote><p>Dincolo de (in)echitatea sau moralitatea acestei m&#259;suri, nici ea nu a fost g&#226;ndit&#259; &#537;i implementat&#259; p&#226;n&#259; la cap&#259;t.</p><ol><li><p>&#206;n primul r&#226;nd, de&#537;i CNAS a anun&#539;at <a href="https://cnas.ro/2025/10/09/informare-noutatile-care-vor-fi-introduse-prin-proiectul-legii-pentru-stabilirea-unor-masuri-in-domeniul-sanatatii-declarata-constitutionala-de-ccr/">&#238;ntr-un comunicat de pres&#259;</a> c&#259; se p&#259;streaz&#259; acel termen de 5 zile pentru un RMN/CT pe an, iar surse din conducerea CNAS mi-au confirmat, nu am g&#259;sit modificarea asta &#238;n nicio lege. &#536;i n-au g&#259;sit-o nici clinicile private care au contract cu Casa &#8211; drept urmare, unele au decis c&#259; vor p&#259;stra acest termen de cinci zile doar pentru pacien&#539;ii cu cancer.</p><p>Mai mult, am &#537;i un r&#259;spuns <strong>de la CNAS</strong> care transmite unui furnizor c&#259; cele 5 zile se p&#259;streaz&#259; doar pentru cancer. </p><p>Deci una spune oamenilor care au nevoie de RMN &#537;i alta furnizorilor care fac RMN-ul.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HE7u!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcd338488-6236-40be-9b4c-4b0389e01a6e_1668x1076.heic" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HE7u!, /__u/sorana.substack.com/w_424, /__u/sorana.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/sorana.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/sorana.substack.com/q_auto:good, 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<strong>Consecin&#539;a</strong>: pacien&#539;ii cu boli cronice sunt lovi&#539;i de dou&#259; ori.</p></li><li><p>S-a decis c&#259; se va deconta peste plafon doar o investiga&#539;ie, dar nu exist&#259; niciun sistem prin care statul (sau clinicile) s&#259; verifice dac&#259; pacientul &#8222;&#537;i-a consumat&#8221; acea investiga&#539;ie.</p><p>Spune asta tot CNAS &#238;ntr-un r&#259;spuns transmis unui furnizor, cu men&#539;iunea c&#259; se va putea din var&#259;, odat&#259; cu noua platform&#259; informatic&#259;:</p></li></ol><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z9FT!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F568566a2-38c9-422a-9f01-b67b244e5f81_2056x272.heic" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z9FT!, 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/__u/sorana.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/sorana.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/sorana.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/sorana.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F568566a2-38c9-422a-9f01-b67b244e5f81_2056x272.heic 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><blockquote><p>Practic, eu a&#537; putea face un prim RMN pe Monitor peste plafon, dar dup&#259; &#537;ase luni &#238;i spun altui medic c&#259; n-am f&#259;cut &#537;i primesc <strong>iar</strong> bilet, fac <strong>iar</strong> RMN. Nici spitalele sau clinicile nu au de unde s&#259; &#537;tie dac&#259; eu am mai f&#259;cut sau nu, mi le vor face, iar dup&#259; un timp, risc&#259; s&#259; nu le fie decontate de Cas&#259; &#537;i s&#259; r&#259;m&#226;n&#259; cu pierderea.</p></blockquote><p><strong>Consecin&#539;a </strong>pentru pacien&#539;i: unele clinici ignor&#259; de tot c&#259; biletele sunt pe MONITOR 3-8 &#537;i fac RMN-uri doar dac&#259; au fonduri.</p><ol start="4"><li><p>Un RMN/CT pe an peste plafon &#238;nseamn&#259; o regiune, un segment, nu mai multe.</p><p>Cazul meu: trebuie s&#259; fac RMN cerebral, de coloan&#259; cervical&#259; &#537;i toracal&#259; = 3 segmente. Dar voi primi: un BT pentru RMN cerebral pe care &#238;l voi putea face peste plafon, deci, teoretic, repede, &#537;i &#238;nc&#259; un BT &#8222;obi&#537;nuit&#8221;, pentru celelalte dou&#259;, pe care o s&#259;-l fac c&#226;nd vor fi bani.</p></li></ol><p><strong>Consecin&#539;a</strong>: oamenii vor face investiga&#539;ii imagistice incomplete, le vor am&#226;na sau chiar vor renun&#539;a, or la afec&#539;iunile cronice, tocmai asta era ideea monitoriz&#259;rii: s&#259; vezi dac&#259; &#539;i-au ap&#259;rut leziuni cerebrale noi sau c&#226;t de mult s-au mai &#238;ngustat arterele, de exemplu, ca s&#259; &#238;&#539;i modifici tratamentul.</p><p><strong>&#536;i se vede deja &#238;n cifre</strong>: Patronatul Furnizorilor de Servicii Medicale PALMED a spus c&#259; &#238;n ianuarie s-au f&#259;cut pe MONITOARELE 3-8 cu 47% mai pu&#539;ine investiga&#539;ii imagistice fa&#539;&#259; de ultimul trimestru din 2025.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Dac&#259; &#238;&#539;i sunt de folos aceste informa&#539;ii, sus&#539;ine Foaia de observa&#539;ie cu un abonament pl&#259;tit.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h4><strong>De unde &#537;tiu toate astea?</strong></h4><p>Din comunicarea PALMED &#537;i pentru c&#259; am sunat la &#537;ase clinici mari, expun&#226;nd situa&#539;ia mea: RMN pe MONITOR, trei segmente, prima investiga&#539;ie din an.</p><ul><li><p>Doar trei &#537;tiau noile reglement&#259;ri &#537;i m-ar fi putut programa &#238;n 2-3 s&#259;pt&#259;m&#226;ni peste plafon pentru un segment, iar pentru restul &#8211; &#238;n vreo dou&#259; luni.</p></li><li><p>Al&#539;ii au spus c&#259; doar pacien&#539;ii cu cancer mai pot face peste plafon. S&#259; sun pe 20 ale lunii, c&#226;nd se deschid program&#259;rile pentru luna urm&#259;toare, dar a&#537;teptarea e de dou&#259;-trei luni.</p></li><li><p>Dac&#259; ar fi s&#259; pl&#259;tesc: &#238;ntre 2.700 &#537;i 4.400 de lei.</p></li></ul><p>&#536;i nu doar furnizorii de servicii medicale au interpretat noile prevederi astfel &#238;nc&#226;t s&#259; se protejeze, ci &#537;i Casele Jude&#539;ene de S&#259;n&#259;tate. Aflu c&#259; se fac controale &#238;n &#539;ar&#259; &#537;i c&#259; regulile se aplic&#259; diferit. &#536;i furnizorii, &#537;i Casele a&#537;teapt&#259; clarific&#259;ri de la CNAS. Au trecut aproape dou&#259; luni.</p><p>&#536;i nu doar c&#259; nu exist&#259; comunicare, dar acolo unde exist&#259;, uneori e &#537;i gre&#537;it&#259;. De exemplu, pe 17 februarie, CJAS C&#259;l&#259;ra&#537;i <a href="https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=pfbid0pCrSP6ZYTJ8UCkf6qJGR64NofbXwKWkwXu2jrjTd99RFEYDR5Krfu53ksx8ktWktl&amp;id=61586575242960">posta pe Facebook</a> c&#259; Toate investiga&#539;iile pe Toate MONITOARELE se fac &#238;n 5 zile &#8211; asta sigur nu mai e valabil.</p><p><em>*Vreau s&#259; subliniez c&#259; nu sus&#539;in RMN-uri &#537;i CT-uri pentru orice, oric&#226;nd, uneori inutil. Nevoia e strict justificat&#259; medical. 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C&#226;t s&#259; trecem prin finalul &#259;sta de iarn&#259;. </figcaption></figure></div><p></p><h2><strong>Prime&#537;ti sau nu banii pentru prima zi de concediu medical?</strong></h2><p>&#206;nainte de a discuta orice despre concediul medical, vreau s&#259; l&#259;muresc c&#259; el nu vine la pachet cu statutul de asigurat &#8222;la stat&#8221;. CM &#8222;<em>by default</em>&#8221; au doar angaja&#539;ii, c&#259;rora li se re&#539;in bani din salariu pentru asta (CAM - contribu&#539;ie asiguratorie de munc&#259;).</p><p><strong>Cei care nu sunt salaria&#539;i trebuie:</strong></p><ol><li><p>s&#259;-&#537;i declare veniturile (ex: din chirii sau drepturi de autor) prin declara&#539;ia unic&#259; &#537;i s&#259; pl&#259;teasc&#259; contribu&#539;ia la s&#259;n&#259;tate (CASS)</p></li><li><p>s&#259; &#238;ncheie <em>separat</em> un contract cu Casa de Asigur&#259;ri de S&#259;n&#259;tate (<a href="https://cas.cnas.ro/casgj/contract-de-asigurare">vezi model aici</a>)</p></li><li><p>s&#259; pl&#259;teasc&#259; 1%/lun&#259; din &#8222;<a href="https://cnas.ro/2023/03/15/comunicat-modificari-ale-asigurarii-pentru-concedii-si-indemnizatii-pe-baza-de-contract-incheiat-cu-casa-de-sanatate/">venitul ales</a>&#8221;, care e obligatoriu minimum un salariu minim brut pe economie (4.050 de lei) &#537;i maximum trei.</p></li></ol><blockquote><p><strong>IMPORTANT:</strong></p><p>Inclusiv pacien&#539;ii cu cancer, dac&#259; nu sunt angaja&#539;i, trebuie s&#259; fac&#259; asta.</p><p>Nu po&#539;i s&#259; &#238;nchei doar contract pentru CM, e obligatoriu s&#259; pl&#259;te&#537;ti &#537;i CASS.</p><p>Ca s&#259; prime&#537;ti indemniza&#539;ia de CM trebuie s&#259; fi cotizat 6 luni &#238;n ultimele 12.</p></blockquote><p>Sunt sigur&#259; c&#259; a&#539;i v&#259;zut c&#259; de la 1 februarie prima zi de concediu medical nu mai este pl&#259;tit&#259;, &#238;n urma unei <a href="https://legislatie.just.ro/Public/DetaliiDocumentAfis/306237">Ordonan&#539;e de Urgen&#539;&#259;</a> publicate &#8211; c&#226;nd altc&#226;ndva &#8211; dec&#226;t pe 31 decembrie, sub pretextul (n-o s&#259; zic &#8222;argumentul&#8221;) c&#259; ar limita concediile fictive date pentru pun&#539;ile de s&#259;rb&#259;tori, f&#259;c&#226;nd astfel economii la buget.</p><p>Realitatea este &#238;ns&#259; c&#259; Rom&#226;nia cheltuie&#537;te pentru concediile medicale de nou&#259; ori mai pu&#539;in dec&#226;t media statelor UE, a calculat &#537;i a explicat <a href="https://www.avocatnet.ro/articol_71082/Cat-se-cheltuie-in-Romania-pe-concedii-medicale-02-din-PIB-adic%C4%83-mult-sub-media-european%C4%83.html">Radu Stochi&#539;a aici.</a></p><p>Modificarea afecteaz&#259; pe toat&#259; lumea &#8211; &#537;i pe tine, care r&#259;ce&#537;ti o dat&#259; pe an, dar &#537;i pe femeile &#238;n risc maternal, pe cei care &#238;ngrijesc un copil sau un adult bolnav &#537;i pe bolnavii cu boli cronice, care au nevoie s&#259; mearg&#259; constant la analize, s&#259;-&#537;i ridice sau s&#259;-&#537;i fac&#259; tratamentul.</p><blockquote><p>Dau exemplu cazul meu: merg lunar la spital ca s&#259;-mi iau tratamentul, deci jum&#259;tate de zi nemuncit&#259;, care ar trebui s&#259; se traduc&#259; &#238;ntr-o zi de concediu medical, dac&#259; n-a&#537; fi freelancer &#537;i nu mi-a&#537; face singur&#259; programul. (Sunt fericit&#259; c&#259; stau la 30 de minute de spital, dar mul&#539;i vin din alte jude&#539;e, pentru c&#259;, pentru unele boli, tratamentele nu se pot ridica de la orice spital, ci doar de c&#226;teva centre specializate, deci ei sigur trebuie s&#259;-&#537;i ia concediu).</p><p>P&#226;n&#259; anul trecut puteam lua pentru trei luni, deci mai pu&#539;ine zile de CM/an, dar, pentru c&#259; nu sunt bani, spitalele trebuie s&#259;-&#537;i dr&#259;muiasc&#259; altfel bugetele, deci eu merg de trei ori mai des, asistentele fac de trei ori mai des documentele pentru internare de zi, aglomera&#539;ia e mai mare &#537;i tot a&#537;a.</p><p>Adaug &#537;i c&#259; tratamentul de dinainte 1. Avea efecte adverse care f&#259;ceau munca imposibil&#259; cel pu&#539;in o zi dup&#259; administrare &#537;i 2. Trebuia s&#259;-l fac de dou&#259; ori pe lun&#259;. Deci cel pu&#539;in 4 zile de CM/lun&#259; x 12 = 48 de zile/an. Nu, nu mi-am luat acele zile fie pentru c&#259; m-am &#238;n&#539;eles cu angajatorul &#537;i am recuperat altfel, fie pentru c&#259; am lucrat pe cont propriu &#537;i, din nou, am recuperat altfel. Dar ambele cazuri sunt un lux.</p></blockquote><p>Ca s&#259; &#238;n&#539;elegi modific&#259;rile, cite&#537;te <a href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/concediul-medical-cine-cum-cat">o edi&#539;ie trecut&#259;</a> despre <em>care</em> medici pot s&#259; acorde <em>c&#226;t </em>CM &#537;i <em>cum</em> e el pl&#259;tit. Am detaliat &#537;i ni&#537;te situa&#539;ii particulare, precum ce faci dac&#259; ai fost tratat &#238;n str&#259;in&#259;tate.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Aboneaz&#259;-te ca s&#259; prime&#537;ti &#238;n fiecare lun&#259; astfel de informa&#539;ii relevante. </p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h2><strong>Ce s-a schimbat la 1 februarie:</strong></h2><ul><li><p>Dac&#259; ai nevoie de 3 zile, iei banii pentru 2, dac&#259; ai nevoie de 10, iei banii pentru 9 &#537;i tot a&#537;a. Iar dac&#259; ai nevoie de una singur&#259;, evident, nu mai e&#537;ti pl&#259;tit deloc. <a href="https://hotnews.ro/simulare-cati-bani-va-pierde-un-angajat-caruia-nu-i-se-mai-plateste-prima-zi-de-concediu-medical-masura-intra-in-vigoare-la-1-februarie-2161917">Hotnews</a> a calculat ce &#238;nseamn&#259; asta: cu 59 de lei mai pu&#539;in pentru un CM de max. 7 zile pentru cineva cu salariul minim pe economie sau 141 pentru cineva cu salariul mediu, &#537;i suma tot cre&#537;te.</p></li><li><p>Mai mult dec&#226;t at&#226;t, prima zi de concediu va fi nepl&#259;tit&#259; pentru <em>fiecare certificat de concediu medical</em>, nu pentru fiecare episod boal&#259; &#8211; concret, medicul de familie, primul la care te duci pentru o boal&#259; &#8222;obi&#537;nuit&#259;&#8221; (s&#259; zicem grip&#259;), e obligat s&#259; &#238;&#539;i dea concediul frac&#539;ionat: &#238;nt&#226;i 4 zile, apoi, dac&#259; nu te-ai f&#259;cut bine, mai mergi o dat&#259; pentru &#238;nc&#259; 3, maximum c&#226;t poate el s&#259; dea.</p></li></ul><blockquote><p>E o m&#259;sur&#259; introdus&#259; &#238;n 2021, tocmai pentru a mai limita concediile &#8222;umflate&#8221;, pentru mai mult dec&#226;t ar fi fost nevoie. Deci 7 zile &#238;n total, dar 2 certificate de CM, deci 2 zile nepl&#259;tite, adic&#259; 2 x 59 de lei pentru cineva cu salariul minim.</p></blockquote><h2>Ce se va schimba &#8222;la loc&#8221;:</h2><p>La presiunea absolut justificat&#259; a oamenilor &#537;i asocia&#539;iilor de pacien&#539;i, pe 6 februarie Ministerul S&#259;n&#259;t&#259;&#539;ii a pus <a href="https://ms.ro/media/documents/OUG_compl._OUG_91_2025_site.pdf">&#238;n transparen&#539;&#259; decizional&#259;</a> o alt&#259; Ordonan&#539;&#259; de Urgen&#539;&#259; care o modific&#259; pe cea din decembrie &#537;i care mai face pu&#539;in&#259; dreptate:</p><ol><li><p>prima zi va fi din nou pl&#259;tit&#259;:</p></li></ol><ul><li><p>femeilor &#238;ns&#259;rcinate sau &#238;n risc maternal &#537;i celor care &#238;ngrijesc un copil bolnav;</p></li><li><p>celor &#238;n &#238;n spitalizare de zi (care pleac&#259; acas&#259; &#238;n aceea&#537;i zi, dup&#259; analize &#537;i tratament) &#537;i spitalizare continu&#259; (interna&#539;i peste noapte);</p></li><li><p>bolnavilor cu boli cronice din Programele Na&#539;ionale de S&#259;n&#259;tate (ex: diabet, cancer, boli neurologice, ortopedie).</p></li></ul><p>2. prima zi va r&#259;m&#226;ne nepl&#259;tit&#259; <em>doar pentru primul certificat</em> &#238;n cadrul aceluia&#537;i episod de boal&#259;. Deci pentru gripa de 7 zile de mai sus, &#8222;doar&#8221; 1 zi nepl&#259;tit&#259;.</p><p><strong>Motivul: &#8222;corectarea urgent&#259; a unor efecte neinten&#539;ionate&#8221;.</strong></p><p>Chiar dac&#259; OUG-ul va trece &#537;i se vor corecta aceste prevederi, m&#259; sperie u&#537;urin&#539;a cu care deciden&#539;ii fac &#537;i desfac ni&#537;te m&#259;suri care ne afecteaz&#259; pe to&#539;i &#537;i non&#537;alan&#539;a cu care revin asupra lor.</p><p>Nu po&#539;i s&#259; faci o asemenea modificare f&#259;r&#259; s&#259; te g&#226;nde&#537;ti la toate categoriile afectate, ca dup&#259; 5(!) zile de la intrarea &#238;n vigoare s&#259; vii cu modificare la modificare pentru &#8222;corectarea urgent&#259; a unor efecte neinten&#539;ionate&#8221;.</p><p>Crede&#539;i-m&#259;, nu e vreo subtilitate care le-a &#8222;sc&#259;pat&#8221; aici. Orice om care calculeaz&#259; salariile la final de lun&#259; &#238;ntr-o firm&#259; putea &#537;ti cine &#537;i cu c&#226;t va fi afectat. Iar faptul c&#259; n-au explicat &#537;i &#8222;detaliul&#8221; cu o zi nepl&#259;tit&#259;/certificat de concediu medical mi se pare de-a dreptul meschin, pentru c&#259; tocmai asta e o informa&#539;ie pe care nu o &#537;tie toat&#259; lumea.</p><p>&#536;tiu c&#259; iar sun&#259; a dezn&#259;dejde newsletter-ul &#259;sta. Nu asta vreau, evident, ci &#238;ncerc s&#259; explic de unde vin toate confuziile &#537;i gre&#537;elile &#537;i ce trebuie s&#259; &#537;tii ca pacient (uneori &#537;i ca medic, c&#259; nici unora dintre ei nu le e clar), c&#226;nd mergi s&#259;-&#539;i faci investiga&#539;iile.</p><div><hr></div><h3>&#536;i acum, ni&#537;te recomand&#259;ri:</h3><p><strong><a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrou2J0YKGTfs9JUxnWWK00CBe3wjuQco">Podcastul Prea S&#259;rac</a></strong>, g&#259;zduit de fosta mea coleg&#259; de la DoR, Andreea V&#238;lcu. O serie de 6 episoade despre ce &#238;nseamn&#259; s&#259; tr&#259;ie&#537;ti cu prea pu&#539;in, despre bani &#8211; ca emo&#539;ie, nu ca matematic&#259; &#8211;, despre ru&#537;inea de a fi s&#259;rac, despre cum ajungi s&#259; faci datorii ca s&#259; &#238;nchizi alte datorii &#537;i despre cum banii au devenit o oglind&#259; &#238;ntr-un sistem, teoretic, meritocratic. Sunt pove&#537;ti ale unor oameni ca noi &#537;i situa&#539;ii prin care cu to&#539;ii am trecut cel pu&#539;in o dat&#259;. Asculta&#539;i toate episoadele &#537;i recomanda&#539;i-l &#537;i prietenilor. </p><p><strong><a href="https://www.thepowerofstorytelling.org">The Power of Storytelling</a></strong> (PoS), 21-22 martie, Bucure&#537;ti. Mi-e greu s&#259; descriu aceast&#259; conferin&#539;&#259; interna&#539;ional&#259; la organizarea c&#259;reia lucrez de la prima edi&#539;ie, din 2011. E construit&#259; &#238;n jurul storytelling-ului ca mod de a explora realit&#259;&#539;i sociale, politice sau artistice complicate, &#238;n domenii diverse, de la jurnalism &#537;i film, la art&#259; &#537;i activism. </p><p>A adus la Bucure&#537;ti peste 80 de invita&#539;i, unii dintre ei premia&#539;i cu Pulitzer, Emmy sau Peabody Award, iar<a href="https://www.thepowerofstorytelling.org/speakers/"> </a><em><a href="https://www.thepowerofstorytelling.org/speakers/">lineup</a></em><a href="https://www.thepowerofstorytelling.org/speakers/">-ul de acum</a> e absolut special. Dincolo de toate &#238;ns&#259;, PoS e un spa&#539;iu din care ie&#537;i cu speran&#539;&#259; &#537;i &#238;ncredere &#238;n ceilal&#539;i &#537;i &#238;n lume, pentru c&#259;, &#238;n cele din urm&#259;, speran&#539;a e o alegere (<em>hope is a choice</em>) &#8211; aceasta e ideea cu care am &#238;ncheiat edi&#539;ia de anul trecut &#537;i pe care am construit anul acesta. Are loc doar o dat&#259; pe an &#537;i mai avem <a href="https://eventbook.ro/other/register-the-power-of-storytelling-2026">mai pu&#539;in de 50 de locuri</a>.<br></p><p><em>Foaia de observa&#539;ie este o publica&#539;ie sus&#539;inut&#259; de <a href="https://www.ppcenergy.ro/cine-suntem/">PPC</a>.</em></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[[INTERVIU] Președintele CNAS despre schimbările în asigurarea de sănătate la 1 ianuarie]]></title><description><![CDATA[Ri&#537;ti s&#259;-&#539;i popreasc&#259; contul dac&#259; nu pl&#259;te&#537;ti CASS]]></description><link>https://sorana.substack.com/p/interviu-presedintele-cnas-despre</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://sorana.substack.com/p/interviu-presedintele-cnas-despre</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Sorana Stănescu]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2026 05:01:19 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Si5q!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6c71c78f-b3a0-4f7d-83d3-6b7d6e9dc035_2274x1922.heic" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salut!</p><p>&#537;i bine te-am reg&#259;sit la prima edi&#539;ie din acest an!</p><p>Avem lucruri importante de clarificat, pentru c&#259; de la 1 ianuarie au intrat &#238;n vigoare ni&#537;te schimb&#259;ri care afecteaz&#259; c&#226;teva zeci de mii de pacien&#539;i cronici, dar care ar trebui, &#238;n opinia pre&#537;edintelui CNAS, s&#259; fie benefice pentru restul cet&#259;&#539;enilor.</p><p>Concret, dac&#259; e&#537;ti s&#259;n&#259;tos &#537;i vrei s&#259;-&#539;i faci ni&#537;te analize de rutin&#259; sau ai o afec&#539;iune acut&#259; &#537;i trebuie s&#259;-&#539;i faci urgent analize (de exemplu, ai o infec&#539;ie urinar&#259;), ar trebui s&#259; g&#259;se&#537;ti mult mai u&#537;or locuri, pentru c&#259; ace&#537;ti pacien&#539;i cu boli cronice nu mai au acces prioritar. Poate nu te numeri printre cei afecta&#539;i &#8211; eu da, &#537;i e foarte probabi s&#259; ai &#537;i tu &#238;n familie pe cineva care este.</p><p>Redau mai jos interviul cu pre&#537;edintele CNAS luat alalt&#259;ieri, o ocazie rar&#259; (dac&#259; nu chiar singura, dar nu a&#537; vrea s&#259; gre&#537;esc) &#238;n care a vorbit despre aceste modific&#259;ri, plus altele care ar urma, precum eliminarea plafoanelor la analize spre sf&#226;r&#537;itul anului.</p><p>&#206;ncep cu un soi de &#8222;glosar&#8221; de termeni, ca s&#259; fie mai clar despre ce vorbim. &#536;i o variant&#259; TL;DR, dac&#259; nu ai timp s&#259; cite&#537;ti tot.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Aboneaz&#259;-te ca s&#259; prime&#537;ti &#238;n fiecare lun&#259; astfel de informa&#539;ii utile, gratuit.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p></p><h2>GLOSAR</h2><p><strong>Asigurat </strong>= cel care pl&#259;te&#537;te contribu&#539;ia la s&#259;n&#259;tate (CASS) sau intr&#259; &#238;ntr-una dintre categoriile exceptate de la plat&#259;: persoanele cu handicap (nu pl&#259;tesc CASS doar pentru indemniza&#539;ia de handicap, dar dac&#259; au alte venituri, pl&#259;tesc pentru acelea); copiii; studen&#539;ii &#537;i cei care provin din sistemul de protec&#539;ie a copilului p&#226;n&#259; la 26 de ani; cei cu pensii sub 3.000 de lei; gravidele.</p><p><strong>Pachet minimal de servicii</strong> = acoper&#259; urgen&#539;e, boli cu poten&#539;ial endemo-epidemic (ex: COVID-19), pachetul de preven&#539;ie (vezi <a href="https://cnas.ro/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Ghidul-asiguratului-editia-3.pdf">Ghidul asiguratului</a> pag. 9), sarcina &#537;i lehuzia. Nu cuprinde vaccinuri &#537;i medicamente gratuite sau compensate, analize altele dec&#226;t cele de preven&#539;ie, consulta&#539;ii la specialist gratuite. Beneficiaz&#259; &#537;i cei asigura&#539;i, &#537;i neasigura&#539;ii.</p><p><strong>Pachet de baz&#259;</strong> = asigurarea &#8222;complet&#259;&#8221;: medic de familie, ambulatoriu, spital, medicamente, dispozitive medicale, &#238;ngrijiri la domiciliu/paliative, vaccinuri gratuite sau compensate, servicii conexe (psihologice, kinetoterapie, fizioterapie, logopedie).</p><p><strong>Furnizor</strong> (pentru analize sau imagistic&#259;: CT, RMN etc.) = nu doar clinici private, ci &#537;i ambulatoriile spitalelor publice.</p><blockquote><p>IMPORTANT: <a href="https://simsass.cnas.ro/informatii-furnizori">Aici g&#259;se&#537;ti furnizori &#238;n contract cu Casa</a>, pe jude&#539;, dar nu vezi &#537;i dac&#259; mai au fonduri.</p></blockquote><p><strong>Program Na&#539;ional de S&#259;n&#259;tate (PNS)</strong> = programe pentru tratarea &#537;i monitorizarea unor boli cu impact asupra popula&#539;iei, din punct de vedere al poverii bolii &#537;i num&#259;rului foarte mare de persoane afectate (ex: diabet, cancer, boli cardiovasculare, rare sau neurologice.<a href="https://cnas.ro/programe-nationale-de-sanatate-curative/"> Lista complet&#259; e aici</a>). Dac&#259; aveai una dintre ele, deveneai automat asigurat complet, indiferent dac&#259; pl&#259;teai CASS sau nu.</p><p><strong>Programe MONITOR</strong> = programe prin care unii pacien&#539;i cronici, cu boli extrem de severe (deja asigura&#539;i, pentru c&#259; erau &#238;n PNS), aveau ni&#537;te facilit&#259;&#539;i &#238;n plus: acces la investiga&#539;ii peste plafon, &#238;n cinci zile de c&#226;nd le solicitau. (<a href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/investigatii-in-5-zile-pentru-unii">Am scris despre ele aici</a>, mai demult.) Sunt 8 &#8222;MONITOARE&#8221;:</p><p>M 1 &#8211; COVID-19</p><p>M 2 &#8211; oncologie</p><p>M 3 &#8211; diabet</p><p>M 4 &#8211; boli cardiovasculare</p><p>M 5 &#8211; boli rare</p><p>M 6 &#8211; boli neurologice</p><p>M 7 &#8211; boli cerebrovasculare</p><p>M8 &#8211; boala cronic&#259; renal&#259;</p><div><hr></div><h2><strong>Baza legal&#259; pentru modific&#259;rile care au intrat &#238;n vigoare la 1 ianuarie:</strong></h2><ol><li><p><a href="https://legislatie.just.ro/Public/DetaliiDocument/306212">Un Ordin comun emis de CNAS &#537;i Ministerul S&#259;n&#259;t&#259;&#539;ii</a> &#238;n 30 decembrie (da, 2025) &#537;i publicat &#238;n Monitorul Oficial pe 31 decembrie, despre care CNAS a comunicat explicit de abia pe 9 ianuarie (<a href="https://cnas.ro/2026/01/09/comunicat-serviciile-de-care-beneficiaza-de-la-1-ianuarie-2026-persoanele-inscrise-in-programele-nationale-de-sanatate/">aici</a> &#537;i <a href="https://cnas.ro/2026/01/09/comunicat-serviciile-din-pachetul-de-baza-care-completeaza-programele-nationale-de-sanatate-modul-de-efectuare-decontare-a-spitalizarilor-de-zi-si-a-analizelor-de-tip-monitor/#_ftn1">aici</a>).</p><p>Schimb&#259;rile cele mai importante, despre PNS, au fost anun&#539;ate pe repede-&#238;nainte &#238;n iulie, odat&#259; cu primul pachet de m&#259;suri de austeritate, apoi au fost am&#226;nate pentru 1 ianuarie. &#206;n august-decembrie nu s-a auzit nimic despre ele. </p><p>Eu am scris &#238;n <a href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/cine-ramane-fara-asigurare-la-1-ianuarie?fbclid=IwY2xjawPUVPxleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETE1OG1jbHZqM3Z6RHhpMnExc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHpCyW9oEwSfAIv2Rg8tiyk9E5SiyAzob63d0DbZae2-JUVrldUtUYDkM8Qa2_aem__Uy-RIXDoTdUEswEZEq0nQ">edi&#539;ia din 17 decembrie</a> despre asta, apoi am re-confirmat informa&#539;ia &#537;i am scris <a href="https://www.facebook.com/sorana.stanescu/posts/pfbid0QxXPPfuAWFbbGpXtjfqmFq2Lm7A8a7nDdJEKtyhBKucp8w39pAvGBif2DGX5SiHHl">pe Facebook aici</a>, dou&#259; zile mai t&#226;rziu.</p></li><li><p><a href="https://legislatie.just.ro/Public/DetaliiDocument/303706">O lege din 24 octombrie 2025</a>, despre care &#238;mi asum s&#259; spun c&#259; CNAS nu a comunicat deloc &#8211; nici pe site, nici pe FB, nici &#238;n vreo conferin&#539;&#259; de pres&#259;.</p><p>Asocia&#539;iile de pacien&#539;i pe care le-am consultat spun c&#259; au mai auzit c&#226;te ceva &#238;n spa&#539;iul public, dar nu pe cale oficial&#259;. Ba mai mult, CNAS <a href="https://cnas.ro/2025/10/09/informare-noutatile-care-vor-fi-introduse-prin-proiectul-legii-pentru-stabilirea-unor-masuri-in-domeniul-sanatatii-declarata-constitutionala-de-ccr/">a dat un comunicat &#238;nainte s&#259; intre &#238;n vigoare legea</a>, &#238;n care a vorbit despre unele modific&#259;ri &#238;n favoarea pacien&#539;ilor, dar <em>nimic </em>despre modific&#259;rile pe MONITOR, care urmau s&#259; limiteze accesul pacien&#539;ilor.</p></li></ol><h2><strong>Rezumatul modific&#259;rilor:</strong></h2><ul><li><p>Pentru pacien&#539;ii din Programele de S&#259;n&#259;tate (PNS) <em>care sunt asigura&#539;i</em> (fie pl&#259;tesc, fie sunt &#238;ntr-una din categoriile exceptate, de mai sus) nu se schimb&#259; nimic.</p></li><li><p>Pacien&#539;ii din PNS (cu excep&#539;ia oncologie, HIV/SIDA &#537;i tuberculoz&#259;) care nu pl&#259;tesc CASS sau nu fac parte din categoriile exceptate r&#259;m&#226;n asigura&#539;i doar pentru afec&#539;iunea din PNS, p&#226;n&#259; la vindecarea ei. Adic&#259; primesc consulta&#539;ii la medicul de familie &#8211; <em>doar </em>pentru prescrierea tratamentului lor; consulta&#539;ii &#537;i investiga&#539;ii <em>doar </em>pentru boala lor &#238;n spitalizare de zi sau continu&#259;, peste plafon; servicii conexe, re&#539;ete compensate &#537;i dispozitive medicale <em>doar </em>pentru boala lor.</p><p>&#206;n plus, au acces la pachetul minimal, la fel ca cei neasigura&#539;i. Nu mai primesc vaccinuri gratuite sau compensate &#537;i nici medicamente compensate pentru alte afec&#539;iuni.</p></li><li><p>Pacien&#539;ii cu cancer, HIV/SIDA &#537;i tuberculoz&#259; r&#259;m&#226;n asigura&#539;i complet, p&#226;n&#259; la vindecarea afec&#539;iunii, chiar dac&#259; nu pl&#259;tesc CASS.</p></li><li><p>Doar pacien&#539;ii cu cancer (adic&#259; MONITOR 2) vor mai putea face <em>orice</em> investiga&#539;ii peste plafon, &#238;n termen de cinci zile lucr&#259;toare de la solicitare (ca p&#226;n&#259; acum).</p></li><li><p>Cei din celelalte programe MONITOR:</p></li></ul><blockquote><ol><li><p>fac o singur&#259; investiga&#539;ie de &#238;nalt&#259; performan&#539;&#259; pe an (CT, RMN, angiografie sau scintigrafie), peste plafon, &#238;n termen de cinci zile de la solicitare (ca p&#226;n&#259; acum, <em>dar doar una</em>). Dac&#259; au nevoie de o a doua, primesc bilet, dar trebuie s&#259; g&#259;seasc&#259; clinic&#259; sau spital cu fonduri, la fel ca toat&#259; lumea.</p></li><li><p>Fac restul investiga&#539;iilor paraclinice (analize, ecografii) la fel ca toat&#259; lumea, dac&#259; furnizorul are fonduri. Dac&#259; nu, caut&#259; unul care are.</p></li></ol></blockquote><ul><li><p>&#206;n continuare vor face investiga&#539;ii peste plafon cei cu suspiciune oncologic&#259;, gravidele &#537;i cei cu bilete de preven&#539;ie (asigura&#539;i &#537;i neasigura&#539;i).</p></li></ul><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Si5q!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6c71c78f-b3a0-4f7d-83d3-6b7d6e9dc035_2274x1922.heic" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Si5q!, /__u/sorana.substack.com/w_424, /__u/sorana.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/sorana.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/sorana.substack.com/q_auto:good, 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S&#259;n&#259;t&#259;&#539;ii, toat&#259; lumea trebuie s&#259; fie asigurat&#259; &#8211; asta &#238;nseamn&#259; c&#259;, dac&#259; omul nu e &#238;ntr-una dintre categoriile exceptate de la plat&#259; (le-am enumerat mai sus), trebuie s&#259; pl&#259;teasc&#259; &#8222;asigurarea la s&#259;n&#259;tate&#8221;, adic&#259; CASS-ul. </p><p>&#536;i aici intr&#259;m noi to&#539;i care pl&#259;tim deja ca salaria&#539;i &#537;i/sau pentru alte venituri (din chirii, drepturi de autor etc.), dar intr&#259; &#537;i cei care ar trebui s&#259; pl&#259;teasc&#259;, pentru c&#259; au venituri, dar nu le declar&#259; (ex: cineva care munce&#537;te la negru sau tr&#259;ie&#537;te din banii trimi&#537;i din str&#259;in&#259;tate de familie).</p><blockquote><p>Ace&#537;tia din urm&#259; ar trebui s&#259; pl&#259;teasc&#259; asigurarea minim&#259; de 2.430 de lei pe an &#537;i ar deveni asigura&#539;i complet.</p></blockquote><p>&#206;n opinia pre&#537;edintelui CNAS, modific&#259;rile corecteaz&#259; dou&#259; situa&#539;ii nefire&#537;ti:</p><ol><li><p>Cei care au nevoie s&#259;-&#537;i monitorizeze o boal&#259; grav&#259; nu mai pot face analize peste plafon &#537;i &#238;n termen de cinci zile, ca p&#226;n&#259; acum, &#537;i asta va da acces celor care nu g&#259;seau locuri.<br><br><em>&#206;n opinia mea, e doar o justificare. Nu ei erau cauza pentru care sistemul nu putea acoperi toate cererile. Realitatea e c&#259; nevoile (acute &#537;i cronice) sunt tot mai mari, analizele/resursele sunt tot mai scumpe, se fac ni&#537;te abuzuri: unii fac analize des &#537;i c&#226;teodat&#259; inutil, iar al&#539;ii nu apuc&#259; deloc, iar sistemul pur &#537;i simplu e dep&#259;&#537;it. Faptul c&#259; ni&#537;te zeci de mii de oameni vor avea acces mai limitat nu rezolv&#259; inechitatea din sistem</em>.<br></p></li><li><p>Pacien&#539;ii cu boli cronice din PNS care nu pl&#259;tesc asigurare vor mai fi trata&#539;i gratuit doar pentru boala lor principal&#259;, nu &#537;i pentru altele sau pentru cele care deriv&#259; din boala de baz&#259;, ca p&#226;n&#259; acum. Sunt 26.000 de oameni care, spune el, au sigur o surs&#259; de venit &#537;i ar trebui s&#259; pl&#259;teasc&#259; m&#259;car acei 2.430 de lei pe an.<br><em><br>Aici tind s&#259; &#238;i dau dreptate. 2.430 de lei pe an e un fel de ofert&#259;: pl&#259;te&#537;ti la nivelul salariului minim pe &#537;ase luni, dar e&#537;ti asigurat 12, a&#537;a s-a ajuns la suma asta. Riscam s&#259; fie mult, mult mai mult de plat&#259;.</em></p><p><em>&#536;i cred c&#259; nu e o sum&#259; mare, raportat la beneficiile pe care le aduce. M&#259; g&#226;ndesc a&#537;a: 1.800 de lei vaccinul HPV pentru o femeie de 25 de ani + ni&#537;te analize de baz&#259; o dat&#259; pe an, care cost&#259; integral 150-200 de lei + un consult oftalmologic la privat = &#259;ia sunt banii.</em></p><p><em>Cu dou&#259; condi&#539;ii: s&#259; le fie u&#537;or oamenilor s&#259; pl&#259;teasc&#259; (nu prin Declara&#539;ia Unic&#259;, ca acum, care e un co&#537;mar &#537;i pentru cei alfabetiza&#539;i digital) &#537;i s&#259; poat&#259; pl&#259;ti &#238;n mai multe tran&#537;e, a&#537;a cum propune &#537;i Rozalina Lep&#259;datu, pre&#537;edinta Asocia&#539;iei Pacien&#539;ilor cu Afec&#539;iuni Autoimune.</em></p><p><em>Acum po&#539;i pl&#259;ti &#238;n dou&#259; tran&#537;e: 608 lei ini&#539;ial &#537;i restul p&#226;n&#259; la 26 mai anul urm&#259;tor, or e greu pentru oamenii cu venituri foarte reduse s&#259; pl&#259;teasc&#259; banii &#259;&#537;tia odat&#259;. A&#537;a c&#259;: 1. Nu vor pl&#259;ti, deci nu vor mai fi asigura&#539;i, iar statul nu va &#238;ncasa acei bani la care sper&#259; &#537;i 2. Oamenilor le vor fi poprite conturile &#537;i vor fi executa&#539;i silit (am confirmat ieri cu ANAF).</em></p></li></ol><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Dac&#259; vrei s&#259; m&#259; sus&#539;ii ca Foaia de observa&#539;ie s&#259; devin&#259; jobul meu principal, f&#259;-&#539;i un abonament pl&#259;tit. </p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><div><hr></div><h2><strong>Interviu cu pre&#537;edintele CNAS, conf.  univ. dr. Hora&#539;iu-Remus Moldovan<br></strong></h2><p><strong>&#10145;&#65039; De ce a&#539;i ajuns la concluzia c&#259; e nevoie de aceste modific&#259;ri pe Programele Na&#539;ionale, respectiv pe MONITOR?</strong></p><p>Investiga&#539;iile de tip MONITOR func&#539;ioneaz&#259; doar din perioada pandemiei &#537;i au fost un r&#259;spuns de criz&#259; atunci. &#536;i-au &#238;ndeplinit scopul pentru care au fost create.</p><div class="pullquote"><p>Au, &#238;ntr-adev&#259;r, o component&#259; pozitiv&#259; pentru unii bolnavi, dar am ajuns &#238;n acela&#537;i timp s&#259; sacrific&#259;m o alt&#259; patologie, la fel de important&#259;, &#537;i anume patologiile acute, care au ajuns pe planul doi.</p></div><p>Adic&#259;, total contra naturii, cazurile acute nu mai erau o prioritate pentru furnizorii de servicii de laborator, pentru c&#259; aveau obliga&#539;ia s&#259; preia &#238;n cinci zile aceste investiga&#539;ii de tip MONITOR, care, dup&#259; cum le spune numele, se adreseaz&#259; pacien&#539;ilor cu boli cronice, care nu sunt urgen&#539;e, care pot fi programate &#238;n termenul rezonabil de valabilitatea biletului de trimitere. Am trecut de pandemie, gata, am dep&#259;&#537;it acel moment &#537;i trebuie s&#259; revenim &#238;ntr-un fel la normalitate.</p><p>O colecistit&#259;, o infec&#539;ie urinar&#259;, o pneumonie, un sindrom vertiginos acut sau tot ceea ce &#238;nseamn&#259; patologia acut&#259; pe zona medical&#259; &#537;i chirurgical&#259; au avut de suferit din cauza acestei reglement&#259;ri, care n-a avut numai efecte benefice, a avut &#537;i acest efect advers.</p><p><strong><br>&#10145;&#65039; Cum a&#539;i m&#259;surat efectul advers?</strong></p><p>Noi suntem &#238;n permanent&#259; discu&#539;ie cu furnizorii de servicii, at&#226;t la nivel na&#539;ional, dar mai ales la nivel local. Casele de asigur&#259;ri de s&#259;n&#259;tate discut&#259; periodic cu furnizorii. O dat&#259; cu raport&#259;rile de sf&#226;r&#537;it de lun&#259; vine &#537;i feedback-ul din partea lor: &#8222;Nu merge o anumit&#259; chestiune, nu func&#539;ioneaz&#259; bine un anumit mecanism&#8221;.</p><p>Feedback-urile astea s-au acumulat pe parcursul anilor &#537;i a trebuit s&#259; facem ceva ca pacien&#539;ii acu&#539;i s&#259; nu mai sufere, p&#259;str&#226;nd &#238;n acela&#537;i timp, ca &#537;i &#238;n ultimii 25 de ani, deschise op&#539;iunile pentru diagnosticul &#537;i monitorizarea pacien&#539;ilor cu boli cronice.<br></p><p><strong>&#10145;&#65039; Atunci, mai degrab&#259;, nu vorbim de un deficit al sistemului?</strong></p><p>Noi &#238;ntr-un fel discrimin&#259;m negativ pacien&#539;ii acu&#539;i, pentru c&#259; au ajuns de multe ori s&#259; scoat&#259; banii din buzunar. Pentru c&#259; nu aveau timp s&#259; a&#537;tepte.<br></p><p><strong>&#10145;&#65039; De acum, pacien&#539;ii neasigura&#539;i dintr-un PNS vor fi trata&#539;i doar pentru boala de baz&#259;, dar e neclar ce &#238;nseamn&#259; asta. De exemplu, ni&#537;te infec&#539;ii recurente ca urmare a unui tratament imunosupresor intr&#259; &#238;n categoria tratamentul bolii de baz&#259;?</strong></p><p>Programele de S&#259;n&#259;tate au fost create pentru acele medicamente, materiale &#537;i dispozitive scumpe &#537;i extrem de scumpe. Programe de S&#259;n&#259;tate &#238;nseamn&#259; cheltuielile scumpe. Orice caz, orice patologie de baz&#259; poate s&#259; fie complicat&#259;, &#537;i pentru aceste complica&#539;ii exist&#259; pachetul de baz&#259; de servicii, de la medicul de familie, p&#226;n&#259; la ambulatoriu &#537;i spital.<br></p><p><strong>&#10145;&#65039; Pentru care pacientul trebuie s&#259; fie asigurat, adic&#259; fie s&#259; pl&#259;teasc&#259; CASS, fie s&#259; fac&#259; parte dintr-o categorie exceptat&#259;.</strong></p><p>Da. Dar exist&#259; un num&#259;r relativ mic de oameni, aproximativ 26.000 de pacien&#539;i &#238;nscri&#537;i &#238;n Programele Na&#539;ionale care nu au &#537;i calitatea de asigurat, care nu au o surs&#259; de venit. Dar ei pot s&#259; se asigure voluntar.</p><div class="pullquote"><p>Nu sunt pacien&#539;i care au un handicap, pentru c&#259; atunci ar fi pe handicap. Nu sunt cazuri sociale, pentru c&#259;, dac&#259; ar fi fost, ar fi primit indemniza&#539;ii sociale &#537;i ar fi fost asigura&#539;i. Deci fac parte din categoria pacien&#539;ilor care, totu&#537;i, tr&#259;iesc cumva, au o surs&#259; de venit, dar nu s-au asigurat.</p></div><p>Pentru aceste complica&#539;ii, pacien&#539;ii neasigura&#539;i au o rezolvare: dac&#259; au nevoie de o internare de urgen&#539;&#259;, o vor primi. Dac&#259; au nevoie de o prezen&#539;&#259; la camera de gard&#259;, se rezolv&#259; la camera de gard&#259;, iar dac&#259; au nevoie doar de medic de familie pentru complica&#539;ii, beneficiaz&#259; de pachetul minimal extins.<br></p><p><strong>&#10145;&#65039; Asta &#238;nseamn&#259;, de fapt, doar consulta&#539;ii la medicul de familie, corect?</strong></p><p>Da.<br></p><p><strong>&#10145;&#65039; Dar nu pot primi un bilet de trimitere pentru analize &#537;i nici re&#539;et&#259; compensat&#259;.</strong></p><p>Nu, pentru c&#259; ar trece la nivel de servicii (n.r. pentru care ar trebui s&#259; pl&#259;teasc&#259; CASS).</p><p>Adic&#259; sunt ni&#537;te pacien&#539;i care ar putea s&#259;-&#537;i fac&#259; o asigurare minim&#259;, pentru c&#259;, teoretic, cel pu&#539;in, au o surs&#259; de venit.</p><p>Nu a fost decizia Casei de Asigur&#259;ri de S&#259;n&#259;tate, a fost o lege &#238;n Parlament ca asigur&#259;rile sociale de s&#259;n&#259;tate din Rom&#226;nia s&#259; fie obligatorii, adic&#259; toat&#259; lumea trebuie s&#259; contribuie.<br></p><p><strong>&#10145;&#65039; V&#259; referi&#539;i la Legea S&#259;n&#259;t&#259;&#539;ii?</strong></p><p>Absolut. Deci, asigurarea pentru s&#259;n&#259;tate nu este op&#539;ional&#259;, este obligatorie. Iar pentru cei care nu &#238;&#537;i pot permite, au un handicap, copii, elevi, studen&#539;i, cazurile sociale &#537;i a&#537;a mai departe, statul acoper&#259; aceast&#259; asigurare.<br></p><p><strong>&#10145;&#65039; Cum a&#539;i comunicat toate aceste modific&#259;ri care au intrat &#238;n vigoare destul de abrupt?</strong></p><p>Nu a fost abrupt. Practic, de o jum&#259;tate de an exist&#259; aceast&#259; modificare care a fost prorogat&#259; tocmai ca pacien&#539;ii s&#259; aib&#259; timp s&#259; se asigure. Am prezentat aceste modific&#259;ri &#238;mpreun&#259; cu Ministrul S&#259;n&#259;t&#259;&#539;ii &#238;nc&#259; din iulie anul trecut.<br></p><p><strong>&#10145;&#65039; Dup&#259; care jum&#259;tate de an nu s-a mai auzit nimic.</strong></p><p>Nu v&#259; sup&#259;ra&#539;i, dar a fost o comunicare. Noi avem extrem de multe lucruri pe care le facem &#537;i pe care le comunic&#259;m. Nu putem &#238;n fiecare zi s&#259; comunic&#259;m acela&#537;i lucru.<br></p><p><strong>&#10145;&#65039; Despre schimb&#259;rile pe MONITOARE din octombrie, din legea 163, cum a&#539;i comunicat?</strong></p><p>Dvs. a&#539;i aflat de lucrurile acestea?<br></p><p><strong>&#10145;&#65039; Da, dar eu sunt jurnalist.</strong></p><p>Deci am comunicat, a ajuns informa&#539;ia la dumneavoastr&#259;.<br></p><p><strong>&#10145;&#65039; Acum unde pot afla oamenii mai mult despre aceste modific&#259;ri?</strong></p><p>De la medicul curant. (n.r. Medicii pe care eu i-am consult sunt &#238;n continuare nel&#259;muri&#539;i, iar asta reiese &#537;i din discu&#539;iile din spa&#539;iul public.)<br></p><p><strong>&#10145;&#65039; Revenind la restr&#226;ngerea investiga&#539;iilor de tip MONIOR, &#238;nseamn&#259; c&#259; de acum &#238;nainte oamenii cu bilete pentru afec&#539;iuni acute nu vor mai a&#537;tepta, pentru c&#259; s-au eliberat &#8222;locurile&#8221;?</strong></p><p>Asta este o alt&#259; problem&#259;. Par&#539;ial, aceast&#259; presiune (n.r. a locurilor) indus&#259; tot de noi, de Casa de Asigur&#259;ri de S&#259;n&#259;tate, a disp&#259;rut. Sau s-a diminuat, pentru c&#259; am p&#259;strat pentru pacien&#539;ii oncologici aceast&#259; prioritate, tot din considerentul c&#259; ei au o problem&#259; acut&#259;.</p><p>Dar mai avem &#238;nc&#259; o problem&#259;: a plafoanelor de la laboratoare. Cauzeaz&#259; nemul&#539;umiri profunde din partea pacien&#539;ilor, &#537;i &#537;tim asta. Am avut &#238;n urm&#259; cu mul&#539;i ani aceea&#537;i problem&#259; la medicamente, c&#226;nd existau plafoane la farmacie.</p><p>La un moment dat, CNAS a ajuns la concluzia c&#259; trebuie s&#259; fac&#259; ceva, &#537;i acel ceva a &#238;nsemnat eliminarea plafoanelor de la farmacie.</p><p>Cred c&#259; singura solu&#539;ie pe care o avem acum pentru a rezolva definitiv aceast&#259; problem&#259; a accesului pacien&#539;ilor la laborator &#238;n timp util este s&#259; elimin&#259;m plafoanele de la laborator.<br></p><p><strong>&#10145;&#65039; E fezabil a&#537;a ceva?</strong></p><p>Desigur c&#259; aceast&#259; eliminare trebuie s&#259; se fac&#259; av&#226;nd un buget finit. Niciun sistem de s&#259;n&#259;tate din lume nu este nelimitat. &#536;i atunci, exist&#259; reguli. La fel, c&#226;nd s-au ridicat plafoanele de la farmacie, s-au introdus reguli de prescriere a medicamentelor, iar asta e una dintre op&#539;iunile la care ne g&#226;ndim serios: s&#259; existe ni&#537;te reguli foarte clare de prescriere a celor aproximativ 100 de analize de laborator pe care ast&#259;zi Casa le deconteaz&#259;.</p><p>Nu e nevoie s&#259;-&#539;i faci colesterolul &#537;i trigliceridele fiecare s&#259;pt&#259;m&#226;n&#259;, c&#259; ele nu se modific&#259;. Le faci o dat&#259; la trei luni.<br></p><p><strong>&#10145;&#65039; C&#226;t de frecvente sunt aceste situa&#539;ii, c&#226;t de mare era abuzul?</strong></p><p>Eu sunt practician &#537;i vin cu 20 de ani de activitate &#238;n spital &#537;i &#238;n ambulatoriul de specialitate.</p><p>Este o practic&#259; curent&#259; pe care v-o confirm&#259; marea majoritate a medicilor &#537;i a laboratoarelor, deci nu cred c&#259; cineva poate s&#259; contrazic&#259; c&#259; nu este un fenomen. Este, &#537;i trebuie reglementat ca pacientul s&#259; beneficieze de aceste servicii c&#226;nd are nevoie, pentru c&#259; nu e corect ca un pacient s&#259;-&#537;i fac&#259; de 10 ori colesterolul &#238;ntr-un an, iar altul s&#259; nu poat&#259; nici m&#259;car o dat&#259; pe an.</p><p>Comisiile de specialitate (n.r. din Minister), Colegiul Medicilor vor avea un rol foarte important s&#259; prioritizeze analizele medicale, conform ghidurilor de practic&#259; interna&#539;ionale &#537;i na&#539;ionale. &#536;i asta nu e foarte complicat, vrem s&#259; o facem &#238;n urm&#259;toarele luni, astfel &#238;nc&#226;t cel pu&#539;in &#238;n a doua jum&#259;tate a anului s&#259; elimin&#259;m plafoanele.</p><p>&#536;i mai avem un mecanism pe care vrem s&#259;-l implement&#259;m: bugetarea global&#259; &#8211; mai &#238;nt&#226;i &#238;n ceea ce prive&#537;te analizele de laborator &#537;i, dac&#259; va avea succes cum a avut &#238;n alte &#539;&#259;ri, atunci pe multe alte paliere de servicii medicale.</p><p>Bugetarea global&#259; este un mecanism de finan&#539;are foarte corect din punct de vedere medical &#537;i economic, adoptat de multe sisteme de asigur&#259;ri de s&#259;n&#259;tate, inclusiv de asigur&#259;ri<em> sociale</em> de s&#259;n&#259;tate. Presupune garantarea accesului pacientului la servicii medicale &#537;i &#238;n acela&#537;i timp securizarea bugetului unei entit&#259;&#539;i, adic&#259;, &#238;n cazul nostru, Fondul Na&#539;ional Unic de Asigur&#259;ri Sociale de S&#259;n&#259;tate (n.r. bugetul alc&#259;tuit din contribu&#539;iile noastre la s&#259;n&#259;tate, din care se pl&#259;tesc serviciile medicale).</p><p>&#206;n &#539;&#259;rile unde exist&#259; bugetare global&#259;, la finalul anului au loc negocieri pentru bugetul anului urm&#259;tor, la nivelul fiec&#259;rei specialit&#259;&#539;i din ambulatoriu: medicina intern&#259; are acest buget, alergologia are acest buget, etc. Bugetul se construie&#537;te pe criterii foarte clare: istoric, adresabilitatea pacien&#539;ilor, nevoile pe care le putem studia din analiza ultimilor ani &#537;i proiec&#539;ie pe urm&#259;torii cinci ani.<br></p><p><strong>&#10145;&#65039; Ce trebuie s&#259; se &#238;nt&#226;mple ca s&#259; ajungem &#537;i noi acolo, dincolo de actualizarea ghidurilor? </strong></p><p>Noi trebuie s&#259; facem primul pas la nivel legislativ, &#537;i lucr&#259;m &#238;n aceste zile la o propunere legislativ&#259; cu care s&#259; mergem &#238;mpreun&#259; cu Ministerul S&#259;n&#259;t&#259;&#539;ii c&#259;tre Guvern, apoi c&#259;tre Parlament, ca s&#259; introducem conceptul de bugetare global&#259;.<br></p><p><strong>&#10145;&#65039; Ce se schimb&#259; pentru pacient?</strong></p><p>Pentru pacient se schimb&#259; un lucru esen&#539;ial: nu va mai avea niciodat&#259; u&#537;a &#238;nchis&#259; la laboratorul de analize medicale.</p><p>Acest lucru trebuie, bine&#238;n&#539;eles, cuplat cu acele reguli de prescriere, bazate pe ghidurile medicale, &#238;n care definim ce analize po&#539;i s&#259; faci &#537;i cu ce frecven&#539;&#259;, alte seturi de analize pe care le faci la un interval mai mare de timp.<br></p><p><strong>&#10145;&#65039; Nu exist&#259; deja aceste reguli clare?</strong></p><p>Nu.</p><div class="captioned-button-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/p/interviu-presedintele-cnas-despre?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="CaptionedButtonToDOM"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">&#536;tii pe cineva c&#259;ruia &#238;i sunt de folos aceste informa&#539;ii? Trimite-i aceast&#259; edi&#539;ie.</p></div><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/p/interviu-presedintele-cnas-despre?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/interviu-presedintele-cnas-despre?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p></div><div><hr></div><p>Recunosc c&#259; pe mine schimb&#259;rile astea m-au bulversat &#537;i m&#259; fac s&#259;-mi pierd un pic &#238;ncrederea &#238;n dimensiunea <em>social&#259;</em> a sistemului nostru de s&#259;n&#259;tate. Dac&#259; a&#539;i citit newsletter-ul &#259;sta, &#537;ti&#539;i c&#259; am l&#259;udat mereu Programele Na&#539;ionale &#537;i MONITOR drept o m&#226;n&#259; &#238;ntins&#259; celor afecta&#539;i pe via&#539;&#259; de ni&#537;te boli pe care sigur nu &#537;i le-au dorit &#537;i de care, &#238;n mare m&#259;sur&#259;, nu sunt responsabili.</p><p>Dar &#537;tiu la fel de bine c&#259; &#238;n sistem se fac abuzuri, se cheltuiesc bani nes&#259;buit &#537;i c&#259; ne-am &#238;ntins mai mult, mult mai mult dec&#226;t ne &#539;ine plapuma. &#536;i c&#259; de undeva trebuie s&#259; t&#259;iem &#537;i din alt&#259; parte s&#259; punem la loc.</p><p>Tenta&#539;ia e s&#259; ne ar&#259;t&#259;m unii pe al&#539;ii cu degetul: pacien&#539;ii &#238;ntre ei, oamenii s&#259;n&#259;to&#537;i &#537;i pl&#259;titori de CASS &#8211; pe cei care nu pl&#259;tesc CASS, autorit&#259;&#539;ile &#8211; pe cet&#259;&#539;eni, opozi&#539;ia &#8211; pe cei la putere &#537;i tot a&#537;a. To&#539;i caut&#259; un vinovat. De un lucru sunt sigur&#259; &#238;ns&#259;: nimeni nu vrea r&#259;ul celuilalt, dar e greu s&#259; vezi asta c&#226;nd te sim&#539;i nedrept&#259;&#539;it. &#536;i to&#539;i cei de mai sus se simt nedrept&#259;&#539;i&#539;i, &#238;n felul lor.</p><p>Percep&#539;ia fiec&#259;ruia e adev&#259;rul fiec&#259;ruia, &#537;i asta nu po&#539;i s-o schimbi. Dar un lucru ar fi trebuit cu siguran&#539;&#259; f&#259;cut diferit: toate modific&#259;rile acestea ar fi trebuit justificate, comunicate, explicate &#537;i para-explicate, &#537;i preg&#259;tite &#238;nainte s&#259; intre &#238;n vigoare. Pentru c&#259; ce sim&#539;im acum e &#238;nc&#259; o &#8222;noaptea, ca ho&#539;ii&#8221;. &#536;i ce a ie&#537;ti bun dup&#259; <em>noaptea ca ho&#539;ii</em> e discutabil.</p><p><em>Le mul&#539;umesc mult surselor mele care mereu au disponibilitate s&#259; m&#259; ajute s&#259; desc&#226;lcesc subiecte complicate: vicepre&#537;edinta CNAS dna. Larisa Mezinu-B&#259;lan, dr. Raluca Zoi&#539;anu, dr. Sandra Alexiu.</em></p><div><hr></div><p><em><strong>Con&#539;inut sus&#539;inut de PPC</strong></em></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Cine rămâne fără asigurare la 1 ianuarie ]]></title><description><![CDATA[&#537;i 10 h&#259;r&#539;i pe s&#259;n&#259;tate]]></description><link>https://sorana.substack.com/p/cine-ramane-fara-asigurare-la-1-ianuarie</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://sorana.substack.com/p/cine-ramane-fara-asigurare-la-1-ianuarie</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Sorana Stănescu]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2025 05:00:19 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ptzu!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F60e40f0f-eac6-482a-816e-984ea530719c_3790x3790.heic" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salut</p><p>&#537;i bine te-am reg&#259;sit la ultima edi&#539;ie din acest an. Prilej ca s&#259; m&#259; bucur de c&#226;teva  momente de recunoa&#537;tere a Foii de observa&#539;ie, dar &#537;i ca s&#259; vedem ce am descoperit &#238;n 2025 despre sistemul de s&#259;n&#259;tate &#537;i la ce s&#259; ne a&#537;tept&#259;m &#238;n 2026.</p><p>Am &#537;i un reminder foarte important pentru cei care sunte&#539;i &#238;ntr-un <a href="/__u/open.substack.com/pub/sorana/p/ce-sunt-programele-nationale-de-sanatate?r=8k6pm&amp;utm_campaign=post&amp;utm_medium=web&amp;showWelcomeOnShare=false">Program Na&#539;ional de S&#259;n&#259;tate</a> &#537;i nu pl&#259;ti&#539;i &#8222;asigurarea&#8221; (CASS-ul), ni&#537;te complet&#259;ri de informa&#539;ii despre psiho-oncologi de la Ministerul S&#259;n&#259;t&#259;&#539;ii (am a&#537;teptat cinci s&#259;pt&#259;m&#226;ni pentru un r&#259;spuns) &#537;i ni&#537;te recomand&#259;ri pentru tihn&#259; emo&#539;ional&#259; &#238;n s&#259;pt&#259;m&#226;nile care vin. </p><p>Zic &#8222;tihn&#259;&#8221; pentru c&#259; eu sunt dintre aceia care s-ar bucura dac&#259; m&#226;ine ar fi direct 15 ianuarie. Am aflat c&#259; e voie s&#259; g&#226;nde&#537;ti &#537;i a&#537;a &#537;i e perfect &#238;n regul&#259; dac&#259; &#537;i tu faci la fel.</p><p>&#206;ncep cu o veste bun&#259;: am g&#259;sit o companie care va sponsoriza Foaia de observa&#539;ie timp de un an. Compania este <a href="https://www.ppcenergy.ro/cine-suntem/">PPC</a>, unul dintre principalii furnizori de energie din Rom&#226;nia, &#537;i &#8222;am g&#259;sit&#8221; e impropriu spus, ei m-au g&#259;sit pe mine &#537;i au &#238;ncredere &#238;n rezultatele &#537;i impactul acestui newsletter. Le sunt profund recunosc&#259;toare &#537;i m&#259; voi str&#259;dui ca la anul s&#259; explic subiecte cel pu&#539;in la fel de importante &#8211; &#537;i<em>, by default</em>, &#238;nc&#226;lcite &#8211;, ca &#238;n 2025.</p><p>Ce se schimb&#259; pentru voi &#537;i pentru con&#539;inut? Nimic. PPC e unul dintre acei foarte rari &#537;i pre&#539;io&#537;i parteneri care ofer&#259; f&#259;r&#259; s&#259; a&#537;tepte ceva &#238;n schimb. Altceva dec&#226;t relevan&#539;&#259; &#537;i impact.</p><p>C&#226;t despre abonamentele pl&#259;tite &#8211; am nevoie &#238;n continuare de ele, pentru c&#259;, &#238;mpreun&#259; cu sus&#539;inerea PPC, &#238;mi vor permite s&#259; fac din Foaia de observa&#539;ie principalul meu &#8222;job&#8221;. Adic&#259; nu voi mai fi nevoit&#259; s&#259; lucrez &#238;n alte proiecte pl&#259;tite &#537;i voi avea mai mult timp &#537;i energie ca s&#259; citesc &#537;i mai multe legi, s&#259; trimit &#537;i mai multe solicit&#259;ri de informa&#539;ii &#537;i s&#259; merg la mai multe evenimente &#537;i traininguri pe s&#259;n&#259;tate.</p><p>&#536;i, nu &#238;n ultimul r&#226;nd, aceast&#259; predictibilitate financiar&#259; care vine din abonamente &#537;i sponsorizare &#238;mi vor permite s&#259; merg pe teren &#238;n &#539;ar&#259;, ceea ce nu am f&#259;cut &#238;n ultimele 18 luni, &#537;i s&#259; p&#259;strez gratuit tot con&#539;inutul, o ambi&#539;ie personal&#259; &#238;n contradictoriu cu multe sfaturi pe care le-am primit.</p><p>&#206;n acest grup select de parteneri pe termen lung &#8211; voi &#537;i PPC &#8211; este &#537;i Asocia&#539;ia MEDIA DOR, al&#259;turi de care am f&#259;cut DoR &#537;i DoR Live &#537;i lucrez &#238;n continuare la conferin&#539;a <a href="https://www.thepowerofstorytelling.org/">The Power of Storytelling</a> (urm&#259;toarea edi&#539;ie e <a href="https://eventbook.ro/event/search?term=the+power+of+storytelling">&#238;n martie</a>). F&#259;r&#259; ei, PPC probabil nu ar fi ajuns la mine, &#537;i f&#259;r&#259; ei nu a&#537; fi avut curajul s&#259; &#238;ncep Foaia de observa&#539;ie acum trei ani.</p><p>&#536;i mai sunt c&#226;teva lucruri pentru care simt c&#259; nu sunt suficient de recunosc&#259;toare, &#537;i pentru care nici nu m&#259; bucur &#238;ndeajuns: am ajuns la 10.000 de abona&#539;i, dintre care 100 &#8211; pl&#259;titori, &#238;n mod organic. Comisia European&#259; m-a ales s&#259; fiu un vector <a href="https://www.instagram.com/s/aGlnaGxpZ2h0OjE4MDg2MDU5NzAyNjc3NzEy?story_media_id=3652094937960307511&amp;igsh=bTR4dzYzZTFidjU4">&#238;ntr-o campanie de promovare</a> a screening-ului de cancer de s&#226;n. Departamentul de S&#259;n&#259;tate Public&#259; al Universit&#259;&#539;ii Babe&#537; Bolyai <a href="https://www.facebook.com/DepartamentulDeSanatatePublica/photos/-youre-invited-to-our-next-guest-lecturewhy-and-how-health-specialists-should-ta/1231938505645152/">m-a invitat s&#259; le vorbesc studen&#539;ilor</a>. Voi scrie un capitol &#238;ntr-o carte de <em>global humanities </em>coordonat&#259; de Universit&#233; de Montr&#233;al. &#536;i se lucreaz&#259; la un studiu privind integrarea &#238;n sistem a navigatorilor de pacien&#539;i &#238;n s&#259;n&#259;tatea mamei &#537;i a copilului, dup&#259; ce <a href="https://arnis.ong/">ARNIS</a> a citit aici despre aceast&#259; nou&#259; profesie &#537;i a format o prim&#259; genera&#539;ie de navigatori. (Dac&#259; lucrezi &#238;n s&#259;n&#259;tatea mamei &#537;i a copilului, completeaz&#259;, te rog, <a href="https://msu.co1.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_6iofzdaVqJ8aGOO?fbclid=IwY2xjawOmhqlleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFmb0NwV0s3bnl2VnBlNUVOc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHrnwkirq2TKGSD8KhjdZdEIm9C-LEmQOG0W1aCWNXw4EBGvj8cuM1idPMcnE_aem_0JCOeHPJpNfuhZFDjbmoSw">acest chestionar</a> p&#226;n&#259; la finalul anului.)</p><p>&#536;i acum, informa&#539;ii utilitare:</p><h2><strong>Unii pacien&#539;i cu boli cronice pierd asigurarea complet&#259;</strong></h2><p>Dac&#259; e&#537;ti &#238;ntr-un Program Na&#539;ional de S&#259;n&#259;tate &#8211; PNS (ex: diabet, boli neurologice, boli rare &#8211; <a href="/__u/open.substack.com/pub/sorana/p/ce-sunt-programele-nationale-de-sanatate?r=8k6pm&amp;utm_campaign=post&amp;utm_medium=web&amp;showWelcomeOnShare=true">am scris aici mai mult</a>) &#537;i NU pl&#259;te&#537;ti contribu&#539;ii la s&#259;n&#259;tate, de la 1 ianuarie r&#259;m&#226;i asigurat doar pentru afec&#539;iunea &#8222;de baz&#259;&#8221;, adic&#259; pentru aceea pentru care ai fost inclus &#238;n Program, nu &#537;i pentru alte afec&#539;iuni, a&#537;a cum se &#238;nt&#226;mpl&#259; acum.</p><p>Asta &#238;nseamn&#259; c&#259; <strong>vei primi tratamentul &#537;i investiga&#539;iile doar pentru boala ta &#8222;principal&#259;&#8221;</strong>, nu &#537;i pentru altele. &#206;nc&#259; nu exist&#259; o list&#259; <em>public&#259;</em> a investiga&#539;iilor aferente fiec&#259;rei boli incluse &#238;n Programe, dar se lucreaz&#259; la ea.</p><p>Exemplu: dac&#259; eu am o boal&#259; neurologic&#259; pentru care iau un tratament care-mi afecteaz&#259; sistemul imunitar, &#537;i nu contribui &#238;n niciun fel la s&#259;n&#259;tate, de la 1 ianuarie voi primi &#238;n continuare tratamentul &#537;i voi face doar analizele sau investiga&#539;iile necesare pentru acea boal&#259; &#8222;de baz&#259;&#8221; (ex: RMN anual de monitorizare).</p><p>Doar c&#259;, dac&#259; fac infec&#539;ii repetate tocmai pentru c&#259; sistemul meu imunitar e sl&#259;bit, nu voi mai primi antibiotic gratuit/compensat, a&#537;a cum se &#238;nt&#226;mpl&#259; acum, chiar dac&#259; infec&#539;iile sunt cauzate, indirect, tot de boala de baz&#259;.</p><h4><strong>Excep&#539;ii:</strong></h4><ul><li><p>pacien&#539;ii cu cancer, cei cu HIV/SIDA &#537;i cei cu tuberculoz&#259; r&#259;m&#226;n asigura&#539;i integral, ca p&#226;n&#259; acum, indiferent dac&#259; pl&#259;tesc CASS sau nu;</p></li><li><p>pacien&#539;ii care sunt &#238;ntr-un PNS &#537;i au<em> &#537;i</em> certificat de handicap r&#259;m&#226;n asigura&#539;i integral, pentru c&#259; certificatul &#238;&#539;i d&#259; dreptul la asigurare complet&#259;, dar trebuie s&#259; duci tu o copie a certificatului la Casa Jude&#539;ean&#259; de S&#259;n&#259;tate c&#259;reia &#238;i apar&#539;ii, astfel &#238;nc&#226;t s&#259; apari &#238;n sistemul informatic &#537;i ca persoan&#259; cu handicap, &#537;i ca asigurat PNS. Institu&#539;iile nu comunic&#259; &#238;ntre ele.  </p><p><br>(<em>Aten&#539;ie</em>: dac&#259; ai certificat de handicap &#537;i <em>singurul</em> t&#259;u venit e indemniza&#539;ia de handicap, e&#537;ti asigurat complet &#537;i nu pl&#259;te&#537;ti CASS <em>pentru acea indemniza&#539;ie</em>. Dar dac&#259; ai <em>&#537;i alte </em>venituri pe l&#226;ng&#259; indemniza&#539;ia de handicap: salariu, pensie peste 3.000 de lei, chirii etc., pentru acestea trebuie s&#259; pl&#259;te&#537;ti CASS).</p></li></ul><div class="captioned-button-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/p/cine-ramane-fara-asigurare-la-1-ianuarie?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="CaptionedButtonToDOM"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Ai pe cineva care ar trebui s&#259; &#537;tie despre aceast&#259; modificare? Trimite-i newsletter-ul.</p></div><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/p/cine-ramane-fara-asigurare-la-1-ianuarie?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/cine-ramane-fara-asigurare-la-1-ianuarie?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p></div><p></p><p>Modificarea face parte din primul pachet de m&#259;suri de austeritate din var&#259;. Ar fi trebuit s&#259; intre &#238;n vigoare la 1 august &#537;i s&#259;-i excepteze doar pe pacien&#539;ii cu cancer, doar ei ar fi r&#259;mas asigura&#539;i complet. A fost &#238;ns&#259; am&#226;nat&#259; pentru 1 ianuarie (conform  <a href="https://legislatie.just.ro/Public/DetaliiDocument/301334">OG nr. 12/8 august 2025 art. VI</a>, &#238;ntr-o limb&#259; rom&#226;n&#259; &#238;ntortocheat&#259;).</p><p>&#8222;E un element de dreptate &#537;i echitate social&#259;, f&#259;r&#259; s&#259; afect&#259;m beneficiile pe care le au oamenii pentru boala grav&#259;&#8221;, a declarat &#238;n var&#259; pre&#537;edintele CNAS. Judeca&#539;i voi.</p><p>De atunci, nici CNAS, nici Ministerul nu au mai vorbit despre asta, de&#537;i afectate vor fi zeci de mii de persoane. Pe final de &#238;ns&#259;, a ap&#259;rut &#238;n transparen&#539;&#259; decizional&#259; <a href="https://cnas.ro/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/ALL-12.12.2025-Proiect-modif.-O-1857_441-in-aplic.-Lg.-163-site.pdf">un ordin de ministru</a> care confirm&#259; c&#259; modificarea va intra &#238;n vigoare &#537;i adaug&#259; alte dou&#259; categorii care r&#259;m&#226;n asigurate full: cei cu HIV/SIDA &#537;i cei cu tuberculoz&#259;. </p><h4><strong>Ce ri&#537;ti?</strong> </h4><p>S&#259; te duci pe 5 ianuarie cu un bilet de trimitere emis &#238;nainte de 31 decembrie, pentru ni&#537;te analize gratuite care nu au leg&#259;tur&#259; cu boala ta &#537;i s&#259; apari ca neasigurat &#238;n sistem, deci s&#259; nu le po&#539;i face. </p><p>Acelea&#537;i analize pe care pe 31 decembrie le-ai putea face gratuit.</p><h4><strong>Ce trebuie s&#259; faci:</strong></h4><p>Ca s&#259; fii asigurat complet de la 1 ianuarie ar trebui s&#259; depui <a href="https://static.anaf.ro/static/10/Anaf/Declaratii_R/declaratie_unica.html">Declara&#539;ia Unic&#259;</a> la ANAF (Capitolul II, Sec&#539;iunea 1 din D212), prin care te asiguri voluntar, apoi s&#259; pl&#259;te&#537;ti imediat 2.430 de lei (sau o prim&#259; tran&#537;&#259;, de 607 lei &#537;i restul p&#226;n&#259; la 25 mai). Pentru siguran&#539;&#259;, trebuie s&#259; duci/trimi&#539;i TU dovada pl&#259;&#539;ii la Casa de S&#259;n&#259;tate de care apar&#539;ii, pentru c&#259;, surpriz&#259;, informa&#539;ia nu se transmite automat de la ANAF la Cas&#259;, ori se transmite cu &#238;nt&#226;rziere.</p><p>Mi-e team&#259; c&#259; asta va fi &#238;nc&#259; o modificare publicat&#259; &#238;n Monitorul Oficial pe 30 decembrie, &#537;i despre care toat&#259; lumea va t&#259;cea m&#226;lc, pentru c&#259; nu e ceva cu care s&#259; te lauzi politic. A&#537;a c&#259; e mai bine s&#259; fii preg&#259;tit.</p><p><em>Aten&#539;ie: reamintesc c&#259; modificarea te prive&#537;te doar dac&#259; e&#537;ti &#238;n PNS &#537;i nu pl&#259;te&#537;ti deloc CASS. Dac&#259; pl&#259;te&#537;ti, nu te afecteaz&#259;.</em></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><div><hr></div><h2><strong>C&#226;&#539;i psiho-oncologi exist&#259; acum</strong></h2><p>Edi&#539;ia trecut&#259; am scris despre <a href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/de-ce-avem-nevoie-de-psiho-oncologi">nevoia de a avea psiho-oncologi</a> &#537;i cum po&#539;i deveni unul, &#537;i aici e o situa&#539;ia dublu- absurd&#259;:</p><ol><li><p>Po&#539;i face un curs de patru luni = 6-8 weekenduri online, f&#259;r&#259; practic&#259; &#238;n spital, sau un curs de un an, cu practic&#259; obligatorie &#238;n spital (da, sunt echivalente, se pare. Voi pe care l-a&#539;i face?).</p></li><li><p>Pentru programul de un an, Ministerul S&#259;n&#259;t&#259;&#539;ii &#537;i Colegiul Psihologilor nu s-au &#238;nt&#226;lnit ca s&#259; fac&#259; curricula necesar&#259;, de&#537;i au avut trei ani pentru asta. Deci singura variant&#259; r&#259;m&#226;ne cea de program de patru luni.</p></li></ol><p>Dup&#259; ce am publicat, mi-a r&#259;spuns &#537;i Ministerul S&#259;n&#259;t&#259;&#539;ii, cu date de la Colegiul Psihologilor, date pe care Colegiul &#238;mi spusese luna trecut&#259; c&#259; nu le are: sunt 389 de psihologi care au f&#259;cut programul de patru luni &#537;i 8 care au dovedit c&#259; au lucrat cel pu&#539;in un an cu pacien&#539;i oncologici (experien&#539;&#259; care echivaleaz&#259; cu formarea).</p><p>Nu exist&#259; un registru care s&#259; &#238;i reuneasc&#259; pe to&#539;i.</p><p>Cei opt lucreaz&#259; &#238;n spitale/sec&#539;ii de oncologie din &#539;ar&#259;, iar ceilal&#539;i &#8211; cel mai probabil &#238;n cabinetul privat. Unii dintre ei activeaz&#259; &#537;i &#238;n asocia&#539;ii care mai organizeaz&#259; grupuri de suport &#238;n spitalele de oncologie.</p><p>Cum e &#238;n alte &#539;&#259;ri &#537;i cum ar fi benefic pentru pacien&#539;i? S&#259; fie forma&#539;i minimum un an, cu stagii obligatorii de practic&#259; &#238;n spital, iar apoi s&#259; lucreze &#238;n spital, parte a echipei medicale care &#238;ngrije&#537;te pacientul.</p><div><hr></div><h2><strong>10 h&#259;r&#539;i esen&#539;iale f&#259;cute de ONG-uri + alte proiecte</strong></h2><p>Pentru c&#259; vreau s&#259; &#238;ncheiem anul cu speran&#539;&#259;, am f&#259;cut o list&#259; cu proiecte ale ONG-urilor din s&#259;n&#259;tate (sau asocia&#539;iilor de pacien&#539;i), care func&#539;ioneaz&#259; ca instrumente pentru noi to&#539;i. Nu m-am uitat la proiecte punctuale, precum dotarea cu aparatur&#259; a spitalului X, ci la resurse care agreg&#259; informa&#539;ie altfel indisponibil&#259; &#537;i o dau mai departe. V&#259; mul&#539;umesc celor care mi-a&#539;i trimis<a href="https://www.facebook.com/sorana.stanescu/posts/pfbid02QHWxYz48YXKoc9VxXHWmcagZzN2fDdUXraj7v2LievEgq3yA4tjdLy3rpZcPcmydl"> sugestii pe Facebook</a>. Acestea sunt doar c&#226;teva, urm&#226;nd s&#259; fac un articol separat care s&#259; le indexeze pe toate :</p><p><strong>&#127479;&#127476;&#128205;<a href="https://www.facebook.com/asociatia.compas?__cft__%5b0%5d=AZYe5nMP_86Dp9o0SWteOvZ4Vl4unoY-v63PIhqIDmpAcvwU1GhQZZ9lLSxEpA5YRUdYtgyKqOYwkmnpdyxkrhKHU3CBBwWMG11Ut8lW9BDFUkB1fhN39h_MvH8AqkjO5OfnJlJCvkhZW3zaaMRfTzoa6Yq8kk62wGhfuqU-bEljDCit3qudL5C9tPKvVmJpqPw&amp;__tn__=-%5dK-R">Asocia&#539;ia C.O.M.P.A.S.</a></strong> a f&#259;cut <a href="https://asociatiacompas.ro/navigatori-pacienti/">un registru al navigatorilor de pacien&#539;i</a>, cu speciali&#537;ti care te pot ajuta s&#259; g&#259;se&#537;ti medici, tratamente sau o a doua opinie pentru mai multe afec&#539;iuni. Iar &#238;mpreun&#259; cu Funda&#539;ia Metropolis opereaz&#259; <a href="https://www.fundatiametropolis.ro/navicare/despre/">NaviCare</a>, un sistem &#238;n care prime&#537;te &#537;i navigheaz&#259; cazuri oncologice gratuit.</p><p><strong>&#127479;&#127476;&#128205;<a href="https://www.facebook.com/zidebine.ro?__cft__%5b0%5d=AZYe5nMP_86Dp9o0SWteOvZ4Vl4unoY-v63PIhqIDmpAcvwU1GhQZZ9lLSxEpA5YRUdYtgyKqOYwkmnpdyxkrhKHU3CBBwWMG11Ut8lW9BDFUkB1fhN39h_MvH8AqkjO5OfnJlJCvkhZW3zaaMRfTzoa6Yq8kk62wGhfuqU-bEljDCit3qudL5C9tPKvVmJpqPw&amp;__tn__=-%5dK-R">Asociatia ZI de BINE</a></strong> a creat o re&#539;ea na&#539;ional&#259; de profesioni&#537;ti cu abilit&#259;&#539;i &#238;n s&#259;n&#259;tate mintal&#259;, care pot oferi suport familiilor cu minori cu adic&#539;ii. Ei au primit o formare de baz&#259; &#238;n psihologia adic&#539;iilor de la o echip&#259; de speciali&#537;ti condus&#259; de psihiatrul Eugen Hriscu (au fost 200 &#238;n prima serie &#537;i &#238;nc&#259; 300 s-au &#238;nscris &#238;n a doua serie). Peste 100 dintre ei se reg&#259;sesc <a href="https://adictiiadolescenti.zidebine.ro/retea/">&#238;ntr-o hart&#259; care se actualizeaz&#259; constant</a>.</p><p><strong>&#127479;&#127476;&#128205;<a href="https://www.facebook.com/FABCRomania?__cft__%5b0%5d=AZYe5nMP_86Dp9o0SWteOvZ4Vl4unoY-v63PIhqIDmpAcvwU1GhQZZ9lLSxEpA5YRUdYtgyKqOYwkmnpdyxkrhKHU3CBBwWMG11Ut8lW9BDFUkB1fhN39h_MvH8AqkjO5OfnJlJCvkhZW3zaaMRfTzoa6Yq8kk62wGhfuqU-bEljDCit3qudL5C9tPKvVmJpqPw&amp;__tn__=-%5dK-R">Federa&#539;ia Asocia&#539;iilor Bolnavilor de Cancer din Rom&#226;nia</a></strong> a lansat <a href="http://imedico.ro/?fbclid=IwY2xjawOs3wxleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETAwRGI1WGFscmpIRkdvdWNwc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHp1qy5IKYloGBARWCH3Oy1571ZznsGDK68zCXN7KpNXgLVaog7qsQ0MOoiYu_aem_RySnROqUaJ719gbhfk58qg">iMedico.ro</a>, o aplica&#539;ie &#238;n care vezi clinicile unde po&#539;i face mamografii gratuit, &#238;n toat&#259; &#539;ara.</p><p><strong>&#127479;&#127476;&#128205;<a href="https://www.facebook.com/CoalitiaCOPAC?__cft__%5b0%5d=AZYe5nMP_86Dp9o0SWteOvZ4Vl4unoY-v63PIhqIDmpAcvwU1GhQZZ9lLSxEpA5YRUdYtgyKqOYwkmnpdyxkrhKHU3CBBwWMG11Ut8lW9BDFUkB1fhN39h_MvH8AqkjO5OfnJlJCvkhZW3zaaMRfTzoa6Yq8kk62wGhfuqU-bEljDCit3qudL5C9tPKvVmJpqPw&amp;__tn__=-%5dK-R">COPAC - Coali&#539;ia Organiza&#539;iilor Pacien&#539;ilor cu Afec&#539;iuni Cronice din Rom&#226;nia</a></strong> a f&#259;cut:</p><ul><li><p>o hart&#259; cu <a href="https://www.copac.ro/harta-furnizorilor-de-servicii-medicale-oncologice-de-stat-sau-privat-din-romania-2/">centrele de oncologie</a> publice &#537;i private din &#539;ar&#259;;</p></li><li><p>o hart&#259; cu <a href="https://www.copac.ro/harta-unitatilor-de-gastroenterologie-din-romania/#info">unit&#259;&#539;ile de gastroenterologie</a>;</p></li><li><p>mai multe ghiduri despre vaccinare: <a href="https://www.copac.ro/primele-vaccinuri-ale-bebelusului/">pentru copii</a>, pentru <a href="https://www.copac.ro/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/ghid_vaccinare_pacienti_boli_cronice_v2.pdf">bolnavi cronici</a>.</p></li></ul><p>&#127479;&#127476;&#128205;<strong><a href="https://www.asc.ro/">Asocia&#539;ia pentru S&#259;n&#259;tatea Creierului</a></strong> a creat mai multe h&#259;r&#539;i:</p><ul><li><p><a href="https://www.asc.ro/AVC/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAYnJpZBExZm9DcFdLN255dlZwZTVFTnNydGMGYXBwX2lkEDIyMjAzOTE3ODgyMDA4OTIAAR6IxoHou3ItaOikgZT7t-W-GOhb40Wq9aSJ2gysJSRBWiVAB1gpKn5ouDbn5A_aem_k4Ap0PGdwSWO7INo0y6nmQ">centre pentru tratamentul AVC-ului</a> (50 de centre care fac tromboliz&#259;, dintre care 13 fac &#537;i trombectomie, dou&#259; proceduri care, efectuate &#238;n maximum 4,5, respectiv 6 ore, asigur&#259; cea mai bun&#259; recuperare);</p></li><li><p><a href="http://www.asc.ro/scleroza-multipla">centre acreditate pentru tratamentul sclerozei multiple</a> &#8211; 25 (boala nu se poate diagnostica &#537;i trata &#238;n orice spital);</p></li><li><p><a href="http://www.asc.ro/parkinson">centre de excelen&#539;&#259; &#238;n diagnosticarea &#537;i tratamentul bolii Parkinson</a> &#8211; 24;</p></li><li><p><a href="http://www.asc.ro/migrena">hart&#259; cu 70 de neurologi exper&#539;i &#238;n migren&#259;</a> (lista se actualizeaz&#259; continuu).</p></li></ul><p>&#127479;&#127476;&#128205;<strong><a href="https://www.estuar.org/">Funda&#539;ia Estuar</a> </strong>a creat <a href="https://hartasanatatiimintale.ro/">hartasanatatiimintale.ro</a>, o platform&#259; care indexeaz&#259; servicii de s&#259;n&#259;tate mintal&#259; gratuite pentru adul&#539;i.</p><p>&#9742;&#65039; <strong><a href="https://www.facebook.com/peditel.ro/?locale=ro_RO">Peditel 1791</a></strong>. Singurul serviciu gratuit de telemedicin&#259; pediatric&#259;, disponibil non-stop. Din str&#259;in&#259;tate po&#539;i apela +40312272270.</p><p>&#128216; <strong><a href="https://www.facebook.com/translatingforhumanity?locale=ro_RO">Translating for Humanity</a></strong> ofer&#259; traduceri medicale pro-bono celor care au nevoie de tratament &#238;n str&#259;in&#259;tate.</p><p>&#129490; <strong><a href="https://www.asociatiamagic.ro/despre-noi">Asocia&#539;ia Magic</a></strong> deruleaz&#259; 12 proiecte de sprijin pentru copii cu boli grave &#537;i familiile lor, de la tabere, la colete lunare cu produse sau transport la spital pentru cei care nu &#537;i-l permit &#537;i risc&#259; s&#259; abandoneze tratamentul (<a href="https://asociatiamagic.ro/sofer-de-suflet?_gl=1*1bt627f*_gcl_au*NTUxODE5NTAyLjE3NjU4MDI4NTU.">&#536;ofer de suflet</a> mi se pare unul dintre cele mai inovatoare &#537;i facile moduri &#238;n care po&#539;i ajuta).</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Dac&#259; vrei s&#259; prime&#537;ti &#238;n continuare gratuit astfel de informa&#539;ii, sus&#539;ine Foaia de observa&#539;ie cu un abonament pl&#259;tit.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h2><strong><br>G&#226;nduri de final de an</strong></h2><p>Dac-ar fi s&#259; g&#259;sesc o etichet&#259; comun&#259; tuturor subiectelor despre care am scris anul &#259;sta, respectiv o etichet&#259; comun&#259; institu&#539;iilor care guverneaz&#259; s&#259;n&#259;tatea noastr&#259;, aceea ar fi &#8222;nu e treaba noastr&#259;&#8221;.</p><p>Nu e treaba noastr&#259;, a CNAS, s&#259; &#238;&#539;i spunem pa&#537;ii ca s&#259; completezi declara&#539;ia unic&#259; &#537;i s&#259; pl&#259;te&#537;ti CASS, c&#226;nd &#539;i-ai pierdut asigurarea odat&#259; cu m&#259;surile de austeritate. Noi doar &#238;&#539;i spunem c&#259; trebuie s-o faci.</p><p>Nu e treaba noastr&#259;, ANAF, s&#259; &#238;&#539;i spunem c&#259;, dup&#259; ce reu&#537;e&#537;ti &#238;ntr-un final s&#259; o completezi, trebuie s&#259; duci dovada la Cas&#259;, pentru c&#259; institu&#539;iile nu comunic&#259; &#238;ntre ele.</p><p>Nu e treaba noastr&#259;, a Colegiului Psihologilor (CoPsi), s&#259; &#539;inem o evident&#259; a psihologilor care lucreaz&#259; prin Casa de asigur&#259;ri, pentru c&#259; sunt independen&#539;i &#537;i n-avem de unde s&#259; &#537;tim.</p><p>Dar nici a noastr&#259;, a Casei, pentru c&#259; serviciile psihologice nu sunt servicii medicale, ci &#8222;conexe&#8221;.</p><p>Sau, de&#537;i e treaba noastr&#259;, a CoPsi, n-o facem &#8211; cum ar fi controale &#238;n teren, pentru care nu avem metodologie, pe care tot noi trebuia s-o elabor&#259;m.</p><p>Sau nu e treaba noastr&#259;, a Ministerului, c&#259; sec&#539;ii &#238;ntregi se &#238;nchid din lips&#259; de medici sau c&#259; n-ai medic de gard&#259; &#238;n neurologie &#238;n Spital Jude&#539;ean, dar &#8222;noi construim spitale&#8221; &#537;i &#8222;&#238;ncrederea ne face bine&#8221;.</p><p>Dup&#259; cum nu e nici treaba noastr&#259;, a unora dintre oncologi, s&#259; le spunem pacien&#539;ilor toate drepturile pe care le au, precum servicii psihologice decontate sau 45 de zile de concediu medical pentru un &#238;nso&#539;itor.</p><p>Acest &#8222;nu e treaba noastr&#259;&#8221; mi se pare cea mai d&#259;un&#259;toare meteahn&#259; a sistemului medical, pe care numai om cu om o putem schimba. Cu dorin&#539;&#259;, viziune &#537;i voin&#539;&#259;, pentru c&#259; nici la facultate nu se &#238;nva&#539;&#259;, nici &#238;n vreo fi&#537;&#259; de post nu e.</p><p>Dar nu vreau nici s&#259; m&#259; prefac c&#259; noi, cet&#259;&#539;enii, bolnavi sau s&#259;n&#259;to&#537;i, am face tot ce e treaba noastr&#259;. Am rev&#259;zut de cur&#226;nd filmul <em>Moartea domnului L&#259;z&#259;rescu</em>, pentru c&#259; s-au &#238;mplinit 20 de ani de la lansare &#537;i revista Films in frame m-a invitat <a href="https://www.filmsinframe.com/ro/editorial/ar-mai-fi-murit-azi-domnul-lazarescu/">s&#259; reflectez</a> la ce s-a schimbat. Mi-am dat seama c&#259; filmul &#259;sta nu e doar despre nep&#259;sarea unor medici, pe care sistemul o permite, ci e despre Rom&#226;nia toat&#259;, care nu s-a schimbat prea mult &#238;n timpul &#259;sta.</p><p>Despre Rom&#226;nia care bea, &#537;i se m&#226;ndre&#537;te cu asta. Despre Rom&#226;nia &#238;n care &#537;i azi se moare &#238;n accidente de ma&#537;in&#259; mai mult dec&#226;t &#238;n orice alt&#259; &#539;ar&#259; din Europa. Despre Rom&#226;nia care se auto-medicheaz&#259; cu non&#537;alan&#539;&#259;, dar care crede tot mai pu&#539;in &#238;n vaccinuri &#537;i medicina bazat&#259; pe dovezi. Despre Rom&#226;nia &#238;n care murim pentru c&#259; fum&#259;m prea mult, respir&#259;m aer prost &#537;i nu mergem la medic la timp (da, &#537;i pentru c&#259; nu ne permitem sau nu avem acces, dar, s-o recunoa&#537;tem, &#537;i pentru c&#259; am&#226;n&#259;m p&#226;n&#259; ne doare).</p><p>2026 va fi un an greu &#537;i &#238;n s&#259;n&#259;tate. &#536;i autorit&#259;&#539;ile centrale, &#537;i managerii de spitale vor &#238;ncerca s&#259; reduc&#259; cheltuieli peste tot unde se poate, de la renegocieri de tarife la calitatea m&#226;nc&#259;rii. Tot mai mul&#539;i oameni vor r&#259;m&#226;ne f&#259;r&#259; asigurare de s&#259;n&#259;tate pentru c&#259; &#238;&#537;i vor pierde jobul. Costul la analize &#537;i consulta&#539;ii &#238;n privat va cre&#537;te. &#536;i asta doar cu datele pe care le avem acum, f&#259;r&#259; s&#259; lu&#259;m &#238;n calcul vreo majorare de TVA sau reducerea bugetului S&#259;n&#259;t&#259;&#539;ii.</p><p>Nu inten&#539;ionez s&#259; v&#259; sperii, dar vreau s&#259; fim preg&#259;ti&#539;i, at&#226;t c&#226;t se poate. De aceea, sfatul meu e s&#259; planifica&#539;i mai bine &#537;i s&#259; ave&#539;i r&#259;bdare. Pentru analize uzuale sau controale periodice, lua&#539;i-v&#259; din timp biletele de trimitere &#537;i face&#539;i-v&#259; program&#259;ri, merge&#539;i la laboratoare la &#238;nceputul lunii, c&#226;nd sunt fonduri, dar consulta&#539;i &#537;i <a href="https://simsass.cnas.ro/informatii-furnizori">lista tuturor furnizorilor &#238;n contract cu Casa</a> din ora&#537;ul vostru &#8211; de multe ori, sunt clinici mai mici sau laboratoare mai pu&#539;in cunoscute care au fonduri p&#226;n&#259; la finalul lunii.</p><p>&#536;i nu uita&#539;i de <a href="https://cnas.ro/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Ghidul-asiguratului-editia-3.pdf">Ghidul Asiguratului</a>, de pachetul de analize de preven&#539;ie pe care le pute&#539;i face gratuit &#537;i dac&#259; nu sunte&#539;i asigurat, peste plafon, de <a href="https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=847670700887894&amp;set=pb.100069349143702.-2207520000&amp;type=3">vaccinurile </a>&#537;i <a href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/ce-s-a-schimbat-daca-vrei-sa-mergi">serviciile stomatologice gratuite sau compensate</a> la care ave&#539;i dreptul (ex: o consulta&#539;ie + o plomb&#259; + un detartraj, anual). Sau de cabinetele stomatologice &#537;colare/universitare, unde copiii &#537;i studen&#539;ii pot merge gratuit &#8211; aici <a href="https://assmb.ro/article/lista-cabinetelor-stomatologice-din-unit-ile-de-inv-mant-preuniversitar-i-universitar-de-stat-din-municipiul-bucure-ti">lista pentru Bucure&#537;ti</a>.</p><p>Nu vreau totu&#537;i s&#259; &#238;ncepem anul f&#259;r&#259; s&#259; recunoa&#537;tem &#537;i lucrurile bune care s-au f&#259;cut, de la dot&#259;ri &#238;n multe spitale, la analize gratuite de preven&#539;ie, de monitorizare a unor boli cronice &#537;i &#238;n caz de suspiciune oncologic&#259;, &#537;i pentru asigura&#539;i, &#537;i pentru neasigura&#539;i, peste plafon, la vaccinuri compensate sau gratuite pentru categorii vulnerabile, la medicamente noi &#537;i scumpe pentru boli foarte grave (dac&#259; vrei mai multe motive de speran&#539;&#259;, <a href="/__u/substack.com/inbox/post/169434465?r=5uvyk8&amp;utm_campaign=post&amp;utm_medium=web&amp;showWelcomeOnShare=false&amp;fbclid=IwY2xjawOb0uBleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFmb0NwV0s3bnl2VnBlNUVOc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHrM1evFArvfdxoIjHyzC3b3FKuXCS0UsyQG6a0Hc3Hxg4ugl3LgqVaIET2BB_aem_oCUSCKiwRhpPaCoIl7Nn_Q&amp;triedRedirect=true">mergi aici</a> sau recite&#537;te lista cu proiectele ONG-urilor, de mai sus).</p><p>La nivel macro exist&#259; progrese, chiar dac&#259; la nivel individual experien&#539;ele pot fi foarte diferite, &#537;i &#537;tim c&#259; percep&#539;ia fiec&#259;ruia e adev&#259;rul fiec&#259;ruia. Doi pacien&#539;i cu aceea&#537;i boal&#259; pot avea experien&#539;e complet diferite, chiar &#238;n interiorul aceluia&#537;i spital &#8211; &#537;i tocmai aleatoriul &#259;sta trebuie s&#259; dispar&#259;.</p><p>Nu &#537;tiu s&#259; spun dac&#259; azi domnul L&#259;z&#259;rescu ar mai fi plimbat la patru spitale, ignorat c&#226;nd &#238;&#537;i descrie simptomele &#537;i pe alocuri bruscat, sau dac&#259; ar fi din prima investigat am&#259;nun&#539;it &#537;i operat pe loc. Ambele variante mi se par egal posibile. Calitatea &#238;ngrijirii &#238;n Rom&#226;nia &#238;nc&#259; depinde de noroc &#537;i de rela&#539;ii, dar dac&#259; mai mul&#539;i dintre noi ne vom face &#8222;treaba noastr&#259;&#8221; &#537;i institu&#539;iile &#238;&#537;i vor face &#8222;treaba lor&#8221;, c&#226;nd vom ajunge de v&#226;rsta domnului L&#259;z&#259;rescu, aleatoriul n-ar trebui s&#259; mai existe.</p><div><hr></div><h2>Pentru vacan&#539;&#259;, cu &#537;i f&#259;r&#259; zah&#259;r</h2><p>&#536;tiu c&#259; recomand&#259;ri de filme &#537;i c&#259;r&#539;i pentru perioada care urmeaz&#259; sunt multe pe net, a&#537;a c&#259; pe final, singura mea urare e &#8222;&#238;ng&#259;duie-te!&#8221;. Mi-a zis-o o prieten&#259; mai demult &#537;i n-am uitat. Iar dac&#259; &#238;&#539;i trebuie &#537;i argumente, cite&#537;te <a href="https://www.huffpost.com/entry/invisible-day-anxiety-stress-relief_l_68d3f1cfe4b0f19864accfe0?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email">acest articol</a> despre a-&#539;i lua zile invizibile, departe de &#537;tiri, de telefon &#537;i de oameni, dac&#259; asta &#238;&#539;i face bine.</p><p>Cu inten&#539;ie &#537;i f&#259;r&#259; vin&#259; d&#259;-&#539;i ce ai nevoie, pentru c&#259; nimeni altcineva n-o s&#259;-&#539;i dea. Unii o numesc &#8222;zi invizibil&#259;&#8221;, al&#539;ii &#238;i spun chiar &#8222;<em><a href="https://axeut.r.ag.d.sendibm3.com/mk/mr/sh/1t6AVsd2XFnIGGox4blgqM36p87f2k/4UlcbAYXhD_V">garbage time</a></em>&#8221;, dar &#238;n comun au fix asta: &#8222;&#238;ng&#259;duie-te!&#8221;.</p><p>&#536;i, &#238;ntr-o perioad&#259; &#238;n care e at&#226;ta presiune s&#259; fii cu familia (am scris mai demult despre <em><a href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/daca-sarbatorile-si-familia-te-streseaza?r=8k6pm&amp;utm_campaign=post&amp;utm_medium=web&amp;triedRedirect=true">family burnout</a></em>), <a href="/__u/open.substack.com/pub/estherperel/p/letters-from-esther-thanksgiving?r=8k6pm&amp;utm_medium=ios">Esther Perel vorbe&#537;te</a> despre familia pe care o co-creezi &#537;i o alegi.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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bine nu</a>. Dar &#238;ncearc&#259; s&#259; schimbi 3 dintre aceste <a href="/__u/everydayhealthtips.substack.com/p/harvards-new-health-bombshell-its?utm_source=multiple-personal-recommendations-email&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;triedRedirect=true">15 micro-obiceiuri care ne stric&#259; s&#259;n&#259;tatea</a>, &#537;i pe care nici nu le percepem ca obiceiuri. Unele sunt evidente, precum a-&#539;i verifica telefonul &#238;nainte de a te da jos din pat, altele &#8211; mai pu&#539;in: a-&#539;i verifica telefonul &#238;n mers sau a ignora micro-stresori precum email-uri necitite sau dezordine pe birou.</p><p>&#536;i, totu&#537;i, dou&#259; recomand&#259;ri de suflet de la mine:</p><ol><li><p>F&#259; cadou celor dragi ceva g&#259;tit de tine, de la fursecuri la mix pentru ciocolat&#259; cald&#259; sau <em>orange wine</em>. E original, mai ieftin &#537;i mai simplu dec&#226;t s&#259; alergi prin magazine. <strong><a href="https://www.mealplanning.ro/p/cadou-advent-de-cadouri-foodie-17">24 de re&#539;ete</a> </strong>de la prietena Georgiana Ilie, &#238;n newsletterul Meal Planning.</p></li><li><p>A ap&#259;rut <strong><a href="https://www.scena9.ro/revista">revista Scena9</a> </strong>&#8211; un obiect editorial pe h&#226;rtie, cu supra-tema Ce ascundem, &#238;n care am scris &#537;i eu un articol despre Ce ascundem c&#226;nd vine vorba de propria s&#259;n&#259;tate (inclusiv despre propria <em>mea</em> s&#259;n&#259;tate). O <a href="https://www.scena9.ro/magazin/revista-scena9-7">po&#539;i comanda aici</a>. Iar p&#226;n&#259; pe 15 martie po&#539;i vizita &#537;i <a href="https://www.scena9.ro/revista/expozitie-2">o expozi&#539;ie</a> construit&#259; &#238;n jurul revistei, &#238;n care m&#259; vei (re)g&#259;si &#537;i pe mine.</p></li></ol><p>V&#259; mul&#539;umesc. S&#259; ne citim s&#259;n&#259;to&#537;i &#238;n 2026!</p><p>Sorana</p><p><em><strong>Con&#539;inut sus&#539;inut de PPC</strong></em></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[De ce avem nevoie de psiho-oncologi ]]></title><description><![CDATA[&#537;i c&#226;nd e bine s&#259; facem teste genetice]]></description><link>https://sorana.substack.com/p/de-ce-avem-nevoie-de-psiho-oncologi</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://sorana.substack.com/p/de-ce-avem-nevoie-de-psiho-oncologi</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Sorana Stănescu]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2025 05:01:04 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/6fea6fca-b851-4b0e-b4b4-3a1cbbf6c239_5836x3883.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salut &#537;i bine te-am reg&#259;sit!</p><p>&#206;n edi&#539;ia asta vorbim despre psiho-oncologi: ce sunt, ce fac, de ce conteaz&#259; aceast&#259; specializare, de ce persoanele cu cancer au nevoie de un tip aparte de &#238;ngrijire psihologic&#259;, dar &#537;i care sunt reglement&#259;rile &#238;n vigoare. E un subiect la care lucrez <em>on and off</em> din august, de c&#226;nd Ministerul S&#259;n&#259;t&#259;&#539;ii <a href="https://www.facebook.com/MinisterulSanatatii/posts/ministrul-s%C4%83n%C4%83t%C4%83%C8%9Bii-alexandru-rogobete-ast%C4%83zi-la-propunerea-ministerului-s%C4%83n%C4%83t%C4%83%C8%9B/1159315719575662/">a anun&#539;at cu emfaz&#259;</a> c&#259; pacien&#539;ii oncologici vor putea face consiliere psihologic&#259; gratuit (lucru care era deja valabil).</p><p>&#206;n timpul &#259;sta, obsesia mea de a &#238;n&#539;elege normele &#238;n vigoare a fost confirmat&#259; de <a href="https://pressone.ro/exclusiv-peste-20-de-ani-de-impostura-doctorul-cristian-andrei-cel-mai-mediatizat-psihoterapeut-al-romaniei-practica-fara-atestat-acuzatii-de-hartuire-sexuala-in-cabinet">dezv&#259;luirile despre dr. Cristian Andrei</a>, care a profesat 20 de ani ca psihoterapeut f&#259;r&#259; s&#259; aib&#259; vreo formare &#238;n psihoterapie (care e obligatorie) &#537;i care e acuzat c&#259; a avut rela&#539;ii sexuale cu paciente &#8211; &#537;i &#259;sta cred eu c&#259; ar trebui s&#259; fie p&#259;catul capital, or discursul public pare c&#259; a alunecat &#238;n zona &#8222;avea sau n-avea certificat de la Colegiul Psihologilor (CoPsi)&#8221;, &#238;ntr-o &#539;ar&#259; &#238;n care oricum nu &#238;n&#539;elegem diferen&#539;ele dintre un psiholog clinician &#537;i un psihoterapeut (<a href="/__u/open.substack.com/pub/sorana/p/diferenta-dintre-un-psiholog-si-un?r=8k6pm&amp;utm_campaign=post&amp;utm_medium=web&amp;showWelcomeOnShare=true">am explicat aici</a>), &#537;i cu at&#226;t mai pu&#539;in &#8211; legisla&#539;ia.</p><p>At&#226;ta timp c&#226;t persist&#259; confuzia &#537;i ignoran&#539;a, vor persista &#537;i impostura &#537;i abuzul.</p><p>Reversul medaliei e supra-reglementarea, &#8222;s&#259; ne acoperim cu h&#226;rtii&#8221;, &#238;ns&#259; <strong>nimeni nu asigur&#259; &#537;i nu verific&#259; calitatea serviciilor psihologice oferite</strong> (<a href="/__u/open.substack.com/pub/sorana/p/editie-extra-lamuriri-de-la-colegiul?r=8k6pm&amp;utm_campaign=post&amp;utm_medium=web&amp;showWelcomeOnShare=true">mi-a confirmat pre&#537;edintele Colegiului Psihologilor</a>! acum dou&#259; s&#259;pt&#259;m&#226;ni) &#537;i nu se &#238;ntreab&#259;, dup&#259; cum vom vedea mai jos, dac&#259; 5-6 weekenduri pe Zoom sunt suficiente ca s&#259; preg&#259;te&#537;ti un psiholog &#238;ntr-o specializare care, paradoxal, la noi nu exist&#259; oficial (psiho-oncologia), pentru o profesie care nici ea nu e recunoscut&#259; oficial (cea de psiho-oncolog), &#238;ntr-o lume &#238;n care num&#259;rul oamenilor cu cancer cre&#537;te rapid &#537;i nevoia de suport psihologic e imens&#259;.</p><p>Iar &#238;n partea a doua, un articol despre<strong> un tip de testare genetic&#259; ce ne-ar putea da informa&#539;ii pre&#539;ioase</strong> despre s&#259;n&#259;tatea noastr&#259; viitoare.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/p/de-ce-avem-nevoie-de-psiho-oncologi?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/de-ce-avem-nevoie-de-psiho-oncologi?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><h2><strong>De unde am plecat</strong> </h2><p>La final de august, Ministerul S&#259;n&#259;t&#259;&#539;ii a anun&#539;at c&#259; de la 1 iulie 2026, doar psihologii cu formare &#238;n psiho-oncologie vor mai putea oferi servicii decontate pacien&#539;ilor cu cancer <em>&#238;n contract cu Casa</em> &#537;i c&#259; formarea trebuie s&#259; fie de minimum 4 luni &#537;i 110 ore. (Da, &#238;n baza asigur&#259;rii de s&#259;n&#259;tate po&#539;i beneficia de unele servicii psihologice, dar procesul e foarte complicat, iar psihologii nu fac contract <em>direct</em> cu Casa, ci prin intermediul unui medic &#8211; <a href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/ce-s-a-schimbat-daca-vrei-sa-mergi?r=8k6pm">am scris aici</a>.)</p><p>Despre psihologii care lucreaz&#259; &#8222;cu plat&#259;&#8221; nu se specific&#259; nimic.</p><p>E o cerin&#539;&#259; necesar&#259;, mai ales c&#226;nd la mijloc sunt bani publici, spun psihologi cu experien&#539;&#259; cu care am vorbit, dar f&#259;cut&#259; pe genunchi, pentru c&#259;: </p><ol><li><p>niciodat&#259; 4 luni nu vor fi suficiente ca s&#259; ob&#539;ii asemenea competen&#539;e; </p></li><li><p>e nevoie de preg&#259;tire clinic&#259; &#238;n sec&#539;ii de oncologie, sub &#238;ndrumarea unui medic, ca s&#259; &#238;n&#539;elegi cu adev&#259;rat problematica unui pacient cu cancer &#537;i </p></li><li><p>un psiho-oncolog trebuie s&#259; fac&#259; parte din <em>echipa</em> care &#238;ngrije&#537;te pacientul (oncolog, chirurg, radioterapeut, ideal &#537;i nutri&#539;ionist, kinetoterapeut), ca s&#259;-i &#537;tie evolu&#539;ia &#537;i provoc&#259;rile, iar asta e mai greu-spre imposibil s&#259; fac&#259; dac&#259; lucreaz&#259; la el &#238;n cabinet, ci ar trebui s&#259; fie &#238;n spitalul (de stat sau privat) unde se trateaz&#259; pacientul.</p></li></ol><h2><strong>Cum difer&#259; serviciile psihologice oferite unui pacient cu cancer?</strong></h2><p>Cancerul e o criz&#259; existen&#539;ial&#259;, disruptiv&#259;, iar pacientul trebuie sus&#539;inut s&#259; se adapteze la noua realitate, care vine cu nevoi particulare, mi-au spus to&#539;i psihologii cu care am vorbit.</p><p>Sunt femei cu cancer de s&#226;n care &#238;nt&#226;rzie sau refuz&#259; chimioterapia pentru c&#259; nu vor s&#259;-&#537;i piard&#259; p&#259;rul. Pacien&#539;i cu cancer pulmonar care se lupt&#259; cu stigm&#259; &#537;i vinov&#259;&#539;ie c&#259; s-au &#238;mboln&#259;vit din cauza comportamentului propriu. Pacien&#539;i cu cancer de colon care folosesc colostom&#259; (materiile fecale trebuie evacuate prin abdomen, &#238;ntr-un recipient), &#537;i care sufer&#259; un proces de izolare social&#259;.</p><p>Se adaug&#259; teama de a-&#537;i pierde jobul sau rela&#539;ia de cuplu, se acutizeaz&#259; eventuale probleme psihiatrice anterioare, mi-a dat exemplu Ramona Schenker, de la Centrul de Oncologie &#8222;Sf. Nectarie&#8221;, din Craiova, care s-a format &#238;n psiho-oncologie timp de un an &#238;n Italia, &#238;n 2011 (formare care nu e recunoscut&#259; &#238;n Rom&#226;nia).</p><p>&#206;n plus, medica&#539;ia vine cu tot felul de reac&#539;ii adverse, probleme de memorie sau g&#226;ndire, de aceea e esen&#539;ial ca psiho-oncologul s&#259; fie &#238;n spital &#537;i fac&#259; parte din echipa medical&#259;, ca s&#259; &#238;n&#539;eleag&#259; implica&#539;iile tratamentului, evolu&#539;ia &#537;i prognosticul pacientului.</p><p>Sprijinul psihologic trebuie s&#259; se concentreze pe prezent, nu pe trecut &#537;i pe chestiuni profunde, de personalitate sau comportament, care &#539;in de psihoterapie. &#536;i trebuie s&#259; adreseze teama de moarte, c&#226;nd &#8211; &#537;i dac&#259; &#8211; pacientul este preg&#259;tit.</p><h2><strong>Cum e acum?</strong></h2><p>&#206;n momentul &#259;sta, ca s&#259; lucreze cu un pacient cu cancer, un psiholog nu e obligat s&#259; aib&#259; formare &#238;n psiho-oncologie, indiferent c&#259; lucreaz&#259; cu Casa sau nu.</p><p>Psiho-oncologia nu se studiaz&#259; &#238;n facultate obligatoriu (exist&#259; doar c&#226;teva cursuri op&#539;ionale, la Universitatea &#8222;Spiru Haret&#8221; din Bucure&#537;ti, la Universitatea &#8222;Babe&#537; Bolyai&#8221; din Cluj, urmeaz&#259; la Universitatea &#8222;Dun&#259;rea de Jos&#8221;, din Gala&#539;i), dar psihologii, ca &#537;i medicii &#537;i profesorii, trebuie, prin lege, s&#259; &#238;nve&#539;e continuu &#537;i s&#259; &#238;ntruneasc&#259; un anumit num&#259;r de credite/an ca s&#259; continue s&#259; profeseze. </p><p>Pentru asta merg la cursuri &#537;i conferin&#539;e care trebuie s&#259; fie acreditate de Colegiul Psihologilor.</p><p>&#206;n Rom&#226;nia exist&#259; din 2017 c&#226;teva programe de formare de psiho-oncologie acreditate &#8211; &#238;nt&#226;mpl&#259;tor sau nu, tot de patru luni &#8211;, la care se &#238;nscrie cine vrea. Acum sunt dou&#259; astfel de programe (le g&#259;se&#537;ti pe site-ul Colegiului, la <a href="https://www.copsi.ro/index.php/registre">Registre furnizori</a>, B &#8211; Asocia&#539;ii, C &#8211; partea a III-a), de&#537;i eu am g&#259;sit &#537;i un al treilea care pretinde c&#259; e acreditat, &#537;i despre care pre&#537;edintele CoPsi, Edmond Cracsner, nu &#537;tia.</p><blockquote><p>I-am sunat &#537;i au spus c&#259; sunt &#238;n proces de re-acreditare, &#8222;a fost o ne&#238;n&#539;elegere&#8221; ultima dat&#259; c&#226;nd au depus dosarul &#537;i &#8222;nu se pune problema s&#259; nu se acrediteze p&#226;n&#259; &#238;ncep &#238;n ianuarie&#8221;.</p></blockquote><p>E neclar &#238;ns&#259; cine i-a format pe ace&#537;ti formatori &#537;i de ce la noi sunt doar de patru luni, c&#226;nd &#238;n majoritatea &#539;&#259;rilor europene &#539;in cam un an &#537;i implic&#259; obligatoriu practic&#259; &#238;n spitale.</p><p><strong>La noi, programele de 4 luni &#238;nseamn&#259;, 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class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Aboneaz&#259;-te, ca s&#259; prime&#537;ti lunar informa&#539;ii esen&#539;iale. Aboneaz&#259;-te cu plat&#259;, dac&#259; vrei s&#259; &#537;i sus&#539;ii misiunea Foii de observa&#539;ie.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h2><strong><br>Formarea &#238;n psiho-oncologie devine obligatorie</strong></h2><p><strong>&#128467;&#65039; &#206;n 2023</strong> s-a aprobat <a href="https://ms.ro/media/documents/Planul_Na&#539;ional_de_Combatere_&#537;i_Control_al_Cancerului_RIQiTXG.pdf">Planul Na&#539;ional de Combatere a Cancerului</a>, un fel de strategie care venea cu multe reglement&#259;ri la pachet, printre care &#537;i <a href="https://legislatie.just.ro/public/DetaliiDocument/275110">Ordinul 3.303 al Ministrului S&#259;n&#259;t&#259;&#539;ii</a>, care reglementa psiho-oncologia: cine &#537;i cum se putea specializa, ce servicii putea oferi, laolalt&#259; cu alte specifica&#539;ii clare &#537;i necesare pacientului: c&#226;te &#537;edin&#539;e gratuite poate primi &#238;ntr-o lun&#259;, ce scop au, c&#259; &#537;i familia poate beneficia, c&#259; se pot finan&#539;a &#537;i grupuri de terapie &#537;i de suport (sunt diferite).</p><p>Pasul urm&#259;tor ar fi fost s&#259; se evalueze nevoia de psiho-oncologi &#238;n &#539;ar&#259; &#537;i s&#259; se creeze posturi, mi-a explicat Ramona Schenker, care a lucrat la scrierea Ordinului din 2023.<br></p><p><strong>&#128467;&#65039; &#206;n 2024, </strong>ca urmare a OM-ului din 2023, <strong>a devenit obligatoriu</strong> ca psihologii care ofer&#259; servicii decontate pacien&#539;ilor cu cancer, &#238;n baza contractului cu Casa, <strong>s&#259; fac&#259; o formare &#238;n psiho-oncologie</strong>. Obliga&#539;ia ar fi trebuit s&#259; intre &#238;n vigoare la 1 iulie anul &#259;sta, 2025 (<a href="https://cnas.ro/.../comunicat-de-la-1-iulie-vor-fi.../">aici comunicat de pres&#259; CNAS din iunie 2024</a>), dar a fost am&#226;nat&#259; cu un an (asta Ministerul n-a mai precizat &#238;n anun&#539;ul din var&#259;).</p><blockquote><p><strong>Formarea ar fi trebuit s&#259; fie mult mai strict&#259; dec&#226;t ce exista &#8222;pe pia&#539;&#259;&#8221;</strong>: adic&#259; minimum un an, cu practic&#259; obligatorie &#238;n sec&#539;ii de oncologie, hematologie, onco-pediatrie, radioterapie. </p><p>&#206;n plus, ar fi putut s&#259; devin&#259; psiho-oncologi &#537;i cei care <em>lucrau deja de cel pu&#539;in un an</em> cu pacien&#539;i cu cancer, &#238;n acelea&#537;i sec&#539;ii de mai sus sau &#238;n ambulatoriu, la stat &#537;i la privat. </p><p>Tematica de preg&#259;tire ar fi trebuit f&#259;cut&#259; de Ministerul S&#259;n&#259;t&#259;&#539;ii &#537;i Colegiul Psihologilor.</p></blockquote><p>Toate &#8211; reglement&#259;ri de bun-sim&#539;, &#238;n interesul pacientului &#537;i aliniate la ce se &#238;nt&#226;mpl&#259; &#8222;afar&#259;&#8221;.</p><p><strong>Doar c&#259;:</strong></p><ul><li><p>OM-ul acesta nu a avut &#537;i norme de aplicare, deci nu s-a aplicat niciodat&#259;.</p></li><li><p>Acea tematic&#259; de preg&#259;tire n-a fost f&#259;cut&#259; niciodat&#259;, pentru c&#259; cele dou&#259; institu&#539;ii: Colegiul &#537;i Ministerul nu s-a a&#537;ezat la mas&#259;. Colegiul n-ar fi r&#259;spuns solicit&#259;rii de trei ori, spun surse care au lucrat la OM. </p><p>Am &#238;ncercat s&#259; verific informa&#539;ia: Ministerul S&#259;n&#259;t&#259;&#539;ii nu mi-a r&#259;spuns, iar pre&#537;edintele Colegiului, care era &#238;n func&#539;ie <em>&#537;i la momentul acela</em>, mi-a spus sec:</p><blockquote><p>&#8212; Nu s-au &#238;nt&#226;lnit. Comisiile respective nu s-au &#238;nt&#226;lnit astfel &#238;nc&#226;t s&#259; pun&#259; la punct aceast&#259; tematic&#259;.</p><p>&#8212; &#536;i e &#259;sta un motiv suficient ca s&#259; l&#259;s&#259;m &#238;n aer?</p><p>&#8212; Eu nu v&#259; spun c&#259; este un motiv suficient. Eu spun c&#259; lucrul acesta n-a fost spus &#238;n practic&#259;. Nu vreau s&#259; g&#259;sesc vinova&#539;i.</p><p></p></blockquote></li></ul><div><hr></div><p><strong>&#11015;&#65039; </strong><em>Scroll down pentru articolul despre testele de genetic&#259;.</em></p><div><hr></div><p><strong><br>&#128467;&#65039; Arc peste timp, nu s-a &#238;nt&#226;mplat nimic &#238;n doi ani</strong>, 2023-2025, iar formare &#238;n psiho-oncologie au f&#259;cut doar cei care au vrut, 4 luni. </p><p>C&#226;nd am &#238;ntrebat c&#226;&#539;i sunt, totu&#537;i, ace&#537;tia, pre&#537;edintele CoPsi a fost evaziv &#537;i a recunoscut c&#259; <strong>nu exist&#259; un registru al psiho-oncologilor</strong> &#537;i c&#259; nici nu ar fi oportun&#259; crearea lui, at&#226;ta timp c&#226;t nu exist&#259; o defini&#539;ie a cine e psiho-oncolog &#8211; &#537;i cel cu formarea de 8 ore, &#537;i cel cu 4 luni.</p><p>Bunul-sim&#539; &#537;i matematica ne spun c&#259; e vorba de c&#226;teva sute, dac&#259; adun&#259;m to&#539;i absolven&#539;ii celor trei &#8222;&#537;coli&#8221; de patru luni.</p><p>Pe de alt&#259; parte, psihologi <em>angaja&#539;i</em> &#238;n sec&#539;ii de oncologie, radioterapie sau hematologie din spitale care lucreaz&#259; cu Casa (deci nu psihologului &#8222;spitalului&#8221;, care merge &#238;n toate sec&#539;iile, ci care lucreaz&#259; <em>doar</em> cu pacien&#539;i cu cancer) ar fi doar 8, mi-a spus Ramona Schenker. </p><p>N-am putut verifica independent aceast&#259; informa&#539;ie, iar pre&#537;edintele Cracsner a infirmat num&#259;rul, dar nici nu a avansat altul &#238;n interviul recent.</p><h2><strong><br>&#128467;&#65039; &#206;n 2025 s-a schimbat modificarea</strong></h2><ol><li><p><strong>&#206;nt&#226;i &#238;n august</strong>, prin <a href="https://sgg.gov.ro/1/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/HG-63.pdf">Hot&#259;r&#226;rea de Guvern pe care am men&#539;ionat-o</a> &#238;nc&#259; din intro, care prevedea c&#259; formarea &#238;n psiho-oncologie avea s&#259; fie de minimum 110 ore (4 luni), nu de un an. Deci anula, practic, OM-ul din 2023, dup&#259; ce Colegiul ar fi transmis Casei c&#259; nu exist&#259; psihologi forma&#539;i un an.<br>De ce patru luni? Pentru c&#259; asta era oferta. At&#226;ta durau cele mai lungi cursuri acreditate de Colegiu, cele dou&#259; existente, mi-a spus pre&#537;edintele Cracsner: </p><blockquote><p>&#8212; Aceasta este oferta la momentul &#259;sta. <strong>Nu pot s&#259; spun dac&#259; patru luni sunt suficiente sau nu, nu am cercet&#259;ri &#238;n domeniul &#259;sta</strong>. Nu noi, Colegiul, impunem furnizorilor de formare ce anume s&#259; fac&#259;. Dac&#259; va veni oferta aceea de 12 luni, foarte bine, o vom aproba pe aceea.<br>&#8212; Sunt suficiente patru luni, adic&#259; 6-8 weekenduri?</p><p>&#8212; Trebuie s&#259; plec&#259;m de la premisa urm&#259;toare: un psiholog clinician are o formare de cinci ani, plus form&#259;ri complementare diverse, ani de zile.</p><p>Deci, ideea care se vehiculeaz&#259; c&#259; n-au preg&#259;tire, c&#259; n-au cuno&#537;tin&#539;e teoretice, din start trebuie exclus&#259;. <br>Acum, strict pe specialitate <em>(n.r. psiho-oncologie)</em>, preg&#259;tirea aceasta depinde. Nu sunt &#238;n momentul de fa&#539;&#259; &#238;n m&#259;sur&#259; s&#259; v&#259; spun c&#226;t ar trebui s&#259; fie. Dac&#259; ne uit&#259;m &#238;n exterior, vom vedea c&#259; sunt modalit&#259;&#539;i diferite. Deci e chestiune de decizie p&#226;n&#259; la urm&#259;.</p></blockquote></li><li><p><strong>Apoi &#238;n octombrie</strong> s-a schimbat iar, prin <a href="https://legislatie.just.ro/public/DetaliiDocument/303551">alt Ordin de Ministru</a>, care, din punctul meu de vedere, cuprinde un nonsens: vor fi certifica&#539;i ca psiho-oncologi:</p></li></ol><ul><li><p>Cei care fac formare de <em>cel pu&#539;in un an</em>, care cuprinde practic&#259; &#238;n sec&#539;iile sus-men&#539;ionate (art. 2.2.a), pentru care din nou Ministerul &#537;i Colegiul trebuie s&#259; fac&#259; o tematic&#259; (deci prevederea din 2023), dar &#537;i</p></li><li><p>Cei care fac formarea de <em>4 luni</em>, f&#259;r&#259; vreo men&#539;iune despre practic&#259; (art. 2.2.b) &#8211; prevederea din var&#259;.</p></li></ul><p><strong>Deci formarea de un an devine echivalent&#259; cu formarea de patru luni, &#537;i pentru c&#259; de un an nu avem &#238;nc&#259;, mergem &#238;nainte cu 4 luni.</strong></p><p>Se vor &#238;nt&#226;lni de data asta comisiile CoPsi &#537;i MS? Nu &#537;tim. La mijloc de noiembrie, dup&#259; o lun&#259; de la emiterea noului Ordin, Colegiul nu trimisese &#238;nc&#259; nicio cerere de a se &#238;nt&#226;lni (&#8222;urmeaz&#259; cur&#226;nd&#8221;, mi s-a spus), &#537;i nici nu primise una de la MS.</p><p><em>*** &#206;n plus, fa&#539;&#259; de 2023, s-a scos men&#539;iunea c&#259; devin psiho-oncologi automat cei care lucrau deja de cel pu&#539;in un an cu pacien&#539;i oncologici &#8211; lor li s-ar fi echivalat experien&#539;a, cu formarea &#8211; e vorba de cei 8, de&#537;i e posibil s&#259; fie mai mul&#539;i.</em></p><p><em>Pre&#537;edintele CoPsi nu &#537;tia de eliminarea asta, dar mi-a spus c&#259; ea va r&#259;m&#226;ne totu&#537;i &#238;n vigoare. El a reclamat &#537;i c&#259; CoPsi nu a fost fost consultat c&#226;nd s-au f&#259;cute ordinele, &#238;n 2023 &#537;i 2025, &#537;i c&#259; le-a v&#259;zut doar c&#226;nd erau &#238;n transparen&#539;&#259; decizional&#259;.</em></p><div class="captioned-button-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/p/de-ce-avem-nevoie-de-psiho-oncologi?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="CaptionedButtonToDOM"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Dac&#259; &#537;tii pe cineva c&#259;ruia i-ar fi de folos aceste informa&#539;ii, trimite-i newsletter-ul.</p></div><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/p/de-ce-avem-nevoie-de-psiho-oncologi?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/de-ce-avem-nevoie-de-psiho-oncologi?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p></div><h2><strong>Pentru pacien&#539;i, greul va deveni &#537;i mai greu, dar calitatea ar trebui s&#259; creasc&#259;</strong></h2><p>Adev&#259;rata piedic&#259;, pe care autorit&#259;&#539;ile n-au &#238;nl&#259;turat-o (valabil&#259; pentru toat&#259; lumea, nu doar pentru cei cu cancer), e c&#259; &#8222;birocra&#539;ia&#8221; ca s&#259; ajungi la un psiholog care lucreaz&#259; decontat e foarte complicat&#259; (<a href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/ce-s-a-schimbat-daca-vrei-sa-mergi?r=8k6pm">am scris aici despre asta</a>), sunt foarte pu&#539;ini &#537;i nici pe aceia nu &#537;tii unde &#238;i g&#259;se&#537;ti.</p><p>C&#226;nd am &#238;ntrebat mai demult de ce nu face aceast&#259; list&#259;, CNAS mi-a spus c&#259; psihologii nu ofer&#259; servicii medicale, ci &#8222;conexe&#8221; (a&#537;a e, conform legii), deci nu e treaba autorit&#259;&#539;ilor <em>din s&#259;n&#259;tate</em> s&#259; fac&#259; asta, iar Colegiul Psihologilor mi-a spus c&#259; nu e responsabilitatea lui, c&#259; psihologii lucreaz&#259; independent, &#238;n practic&#259; privat&#259; &#537;i ar fi imposibil s&#259; afle cine lucreaz&#259; &#537;i cu statul (vezi &#537;i interviul cu pre&#537;edintele Cracsner, <a href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/editie-extra-lamuriri-de-la-colegiul">aici</a>).</p><p>Andi C&#226;rlan, pre&#537;edintele asocia&#539;iei de navigatori de pacien&#539;i <a href="https://www.facebook.com/asociatia.compas">C.O.M.P.A.S</a>., el &#238;nsu&#537;i bolnav de cancer, mi-a descris acest traseu: &#8222;&#206;ntre dou&#259; runde de chimioterapie &#537;i &#537;ase v&#259;rs&#259;turi, omul trebuie s&#259;-&#537;i fac&#259; o programare la psihiatru sau oncolog, ca s&#259; fie evaluat dac&#259; are nevoie de psiho-oncolog, dup&#259; care s&#259; g&#259;seasc&#259; o clinic&#259; care lucreaz&#259; cu Casa, pentru c&#259; psihologii nu lucreaz&#259; <em>direct</em> cu Casa, s&#259;-&#537;i fac&#259; o programare &#537;i s&#259; se duc&#259; la psihologul disponibil, nu la cel pe care &#238;l alege. E un proces inuman.&#8221;</p><p>A&#537;adar, dac&#259; p&#226;n&#259; acum s&#259; g&#259;se&#537;ti un psiholog care lucreaz&#259; cu Casa &#238;nsemna s&#259; cau&#539;i acul &#238;n carul cu f&#226;n, de acum &#238;nainte, s&#259; g&#259;se&#537;ti un psiho-oncolog care lucreaz&#259; cu Casa va &#238;nsemna s&#259; cau&#539;i acul cu carul cu f&#226;n legat la ochi, &#238;n timp ce duci b&#259;t&#259;lia vie&#539;ii tale. De aceea e at&#226;t de important ca ei s&#259; fie &#238;n spitale.</p><p>Din fericire, &#238;n mai toate Institutele de Oncologie din &#539;ar&#259; exist&#259; grupuri de suport gratuite (cum sunt cele ale <a href="https://www.facebook.com/FABCRomania?locale=ro_RO">Federa&#539;iei Asocia&#539;iilor Bolnavilor de Cancer</a>, prin <a href="https://www.facebook.com/oncomultisuport?locale=ro_RO">Onco Multi Suport</a>, sau ale <a href="https://restartlaviata.ro/sanatate/#section1">Asocia&#539;iei Restart la Via&#539;&#259;</a>) &#8211; sunt resurse disponibile imediat, dar limitat &#537;i intermitent, or cancerul e o b&#259;t&#259;lie de ani de zile.</p><p><strong>&#10084;&#65039; Esen&#539;ial:</strong> dac&#259; tocmai ai primit un diagnostic de cancer &#537;i nu &#537;tii ce s&#259; faci mai departe (nu doar &#238;n materie de sprijin psihologic, ci &#238;n tot traseul t&#259;u medical), apeleaz&#259; la <a href="https://asociatiacompas.ro/despre/">Asocia&#539;ia C.O.M.P.A.S</a>., care reune&#537;te navigatori medicali <em>califica&#539;i</em> ce ofer&#259; servicii gratuite. Ei, spre deosebire de institu&#539;iile statului, au &#537;i <a href="https://asociatiacompas.ro/navigatori-pacienti/">un registru pe ora&#537;e</a>, care se actualizeaz&#259; constant.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wG5g!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F28248fec-de8d-4a89-9dc6-98a30bd5f9a4_5836x3883.heic" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wG5g!, /__u/sorana.substack.com/w_424, /__u/sorana.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/sorana.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/sorana.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/sorana.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F28248fec-de8d-4a89-9dc6-98a30bd5f9a4_5836x3883.heic 424w, 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ar&#259;t &#238;nc&#259; un lucru care nu e cum ar trebui, ci ca s&#259; &#537;tii c&#259;, dac&#259; ai cancer, ai dreptul la sprijin psihologic gratuit, c&#259; ar fi bine s&#259; cau&#539;i un psiholog care are experien&#539;&#259; &#537;i preg&#259;tire &#238;n psiho-oncologie, c&#259; el ar trebui s&#259; &#539;in&#259; leg&#259;tura constant cu echipa medical&#259;, c&#259; ar trebui s&#259; accep&#539;i ajutorul celui din spital, dac&#259; exist&#259;, &#537;i dac&#259; totu&#537;i alegi pe altcineva, s&#259; lucra&#539;i pe nevoile tale din prezent, pe &#8222;aici &#537;i acum&#8221;, nu pe chestiuni profunde, de comportament, personalitate etc., potrivite pentru alt moment al vie&#539;ii. &#536;i c&#259; e perfect normal ca nevoile &#537;i temerile tale de azi s&#259; nu fie acelea&#537;i de ieri sau de m&#226;ine.</p><p>Iar dac&#259; nu e&#537;ti &#238;n situa&#539;ia asta, a&#537; vrea s&#259; &#537;tii c&#259; e &#238;nc&#259; nevoie de profesionalizare &#537;i reglementare a profesiei de psiholog &#537;i c&#259; se &#238;ncearc&#259;, dar prima care trebuie s&#259; vrea &#537;i s&#259; fac&#259; asta e breasla &#238;ns&#259;&#537;i, din interior spre exterior. </p><p>&#536;i c&#259;, a&#537;a cum psiho-oncologul trebuie s&#259; lucreze cu medicul curant, institu&#539;iile la v&#226;rf trebuie s&#259; se a&#537;eze la treab&#259;, nu doar s&#259; fac&#259; legi: Colegiul Psihologilor cu Ministerul S&#259;n&#259;t&#259;&#539;ii, cu CNAS, cu mediul academic (ca psiho-oncologia s&#259; se studieze la facultate), cu spitale (pentru a face practic&#259;) &#537;i cu institute de afar&#259;, care fac asta de ani buni.</p><p>Altfel, acum suntem &#238;n urm&#259;toarea situa&#539;ie: avem c&#226;teva sute de psihologi care au f&#259;cut &#537;i pl&#259;tit un curs teoretic, online, de patru luni, care nu au unde lucra &#238;n spitale, a&#537;a c&#259; vor lucra din cabinet, probabil pe mai mul&#539;i bani dec&#226;t o &#537;edin&#539;&#259; obi&#537;nuit&#259;, iar oamenii, din disperare, se vor duce.</p><p>Unii vor face, probabil, o treab&#259; decent&#259;, dar al&#539;ii risc&#259; s&#259;-i destabilizeze pe unii pacien&#539;i, afla&#539;i deja &#238;n cel mai vulnerabil moment al vie&#539;ii lor.</p><p><em><strong>Le mul&#539;umesc mult </strong>celor care au avut r&#259;bdare s&#259; m&#259; ajute s&#259; &#238;n&#539;eleg subiectul &#259;sta: Ramona Schenker, Corina Ionescu, Raluca B&#238;rzu, C&#259;t&#259;lina Dumitrescu, Andi C&#226;rlan.</em></p><p><em>&#536;i le mul&#539;umesc mai pu&#539;in Colegiului Psihologilor, care nu mi-a r&#259;spuns la o solicitare de informa&#539;ii 60 de zile, &#537;i Ministerului S&#259;n&#259;t&#259;&#539;ii, de la care, dup&#259; 27 de zile, &#238;nc&#259; a&#537;tept.</em></p><div><hr></div><h1>Ce ne poate spune un text genetic de screening</h1><p>Auzim tot mai des despre teste genetice care pot indica riscul de a dezvolta anumite boli sau care pot identifica anumite muta&#539;ii genetice, mai ales &#238;n cazul cancerelor.</p><p>Esen&#539;ial de clarificat ar fi c&#259;: exist&#259; teste genetice de screening, respectiv de diagnostic, fiecare cu rolul lor; nici unele, nici altele nu &#238;nseamn&#259; c&#259; <em>sigur </em>vom face acea boal&#259; pentru care am descoperit o predispozi&#539;ie sau o muta&#539;ie, &#537;i &#238;n niciun caz nu ar trebui s&#259; facem aceste teste din proprie ini&#539;iativ&#259;, chiar dac&#259; unele sunt disponibile f&#259;r&#259; trimitere, ci doar &#238;n urma unui consult la specialist. </p><p>Iar odat&#259; ce avem rezultatele, e nevoie de un nou consult, de data asta cu un medic genetician, pentru c&#259;, uneori, acela&#537;i rezultat poate indica probabilit&#259;&#539;i diferite la pacien&#539;i diferi&#539;i.</p><p>Geneticianul e cel care le interpreteaz&#259; &#238;n context personal &#537;i familial &#537;i poate face recomand&#259;ri pentru pa&#537;ii urm&#259;tori &#537;i, eventual, pentru testarea rudelor de gradul I (p&#259;rin&#539;i, fra&#539;i, copii).</p><p>MedLife a dezvoltat <a href="https://www.medlife.ro/comunicat-de-presa/medlife-lanseaza-longevity-100-primul-si-cel-mai-amplu-program-de-testare">proiectul Longevity100+</a>, care permite secven&#539;ierea genomic&#259; prin Low-Pass Whole Genome Sequencing (LP-WGS), o metod&#259; de secven&#539;iere a &#238;ntregului genom la o rezolu&#539;ie sc&#259;zut&#259;. Longevity100+ a debutat cu o etap&#259; pilot, iar &#238;n prima parte a anului viitor va fi disponibil &#537;i publicului larg.</p><p>Este <strong>un test genetic de screening care va oferi dou&#259; tipuri de informa&#539;ii</strong>: dac&#259; avem o predispozi&#539;ie genetic&#259; pentru vreuna dintre cele mai frecvente 75 de boli cronice, de la diferite tipuri de cancer la afec&#539;iuni metabolice, cardiovasculare, neurologice, autoimune sau gastrointestinale, &#537;i dac&#259; avem unele particularit&#259;&#539;i legate de stilul de via&#539;&#259;, activitate fizic&#259; sau odihn&#259;, asupra c&#259;rora ar trebui s&#259; intervenim tocmai ca s&#259; nu dezvolt&#259;m una dintre afec&#539;iunile de mai sus.</p><p>&#8222;Longevity 100+ ne arat&#259;, printre altele, dac&#259; avem anumite predispozi&#539;ii care ne fac s&#259; nu metaboliz&#259;m eficient vitamina D sau B, dac&#259; r&#259;spundem bine la cafein&#259;, dac&#259; avem o rezisten&#539;&#259; mai bun&#259; sau o recuperare mai bun&#259; dup&#259; un anumit tip de exerci&#539;iu fizic, fa&#539;&#259; de altul, ori dac&#259; avem nevoie de nou&#259; ore de somn, fa&#539;&#259; de cele &#537;ase din prezent&#8221;, exemplific&#259; dr. Monica Stoian, medic primar genetic&#259; medical&#259; la Centrul Personal Genetics, parte a Grupului MedLife. </p><p>&#206;n cazul vitaminei D, foarte important&#259; &#238;n multe procese metabolice &#537;i &#238;n imunitate, testul va ar&#259;ta dac&#259; o metaboliz&#259;m bine &#8211; dac&#259; nu, e nevoie s&#259; supliment&#259;m mai mult dec&#226;t popula&#539;ia general&#259;, inclusiv cu vitamina K2, care o ajut&#259; s&#259; se asimileze, explic&#259; medicul.</p><p>Testul <strong>evalueaz&#259; riscul nostru relativ de a face o anumit&#259; boal&#259;</strong> &#238;n raport cu popula&#539;ia din regiunea noastr&#259;: va ar&#259;ta, de exemplu, un risc de 2,5 ori mai mare de a face diabet, dec&#226;t popula&#539;ia general&#259;, ceea ce este un indicator pentru cum ar trebui s&#259; se modifice stilul de via&#539;&#259;. </p><p>Dac&#259; persoana respectiv&#259; &#539;ine glicemia &#537;i indicele de mas&#259; corporal&#259; sub control &#537;i elimin&#259; zah&#259;rul, de exemplu, &#238;n timp, acest risc va r&#259;m&#226;ne la fel &#8211; nu va sc&#259;dea, dar nici &#8222;nu se va materializa&#8221;.</p><p>&#8222;Predispozi&#539;ie &#238;nseamn&#259; acumularea mai multor gene care ar putea conduce la o anumit&#259; situa&#539;ie&#8221;, spune dr. Stoian, &#8222;de aceea scopul acestor test&#259;ri este s&#259; ne cunoa&#537;tem bagajul genetic, ca s&#259; putem interveni cu factorii de mediu, s&#259; facem ni&#537;te ajust&#259;ri. Aceste teste ajut&#259; oamenii s&#259;-&#537;i dea seama c&#259; a fi s&#259;n&#259;to&#537;i depinde &#537;i de ei &#537;i de alegerile pe care le fac &#238;n fiecare diminea&#539;&#259;&#8221;.</p><p>&#206;n mod interesant, explic&#259; dr. Stoian, rezultatele testului de screening ar trebui reevaluate la cinci ani sau mai t&#226;rziu &#238;n cursul vie&#539;ii, pentru c&#259; &#238;ntre timp pot ap&#259;rea descoperiri &#537;tiin&#539;ifice care s&#259; aduc&#259; informa&#539;ii noi &#537;i s&#259; influen&#539;eze deciziile de stil de via&#539;&#259;.</p><p>Testul nu va c&#259;uta, &#539;intit, muta&#539;ii ale anumitor gene, ca s&#259; contribuie la stabilirea diagnosticului sau, &#238;n unele cazuri, la un tratament personalizat &#8211; acelea sunt testele diagnostice &#8211;, ci <strong>va analiza ADN-ul nostru &#238;n compara&#539;ie cu ADN-ul de referin&#539;&#259;</strong>.</p><p>Rezultatele testului de screening nu trebuie s&#259; influen&#539;eze decizia de a avea copii, subliniaz&#259; dr. Stoian. Nici m&#259;car un test genetic diagnostic nu ne conduce automat la decizia asta, pentru c&#259; ast&#259;zi exist&#259; alte teste genetice, care se fac &#238;nainte de concep&#539;ie sau &#238;nainte de implantarea embrionului (dac&#259; vorbim de fertilizare in vitro), care pot ghida aceast&#259; decizie.</p><p>&#206;nainte de testare, fiecare persoan&#259; va trebui s&#259; completeze un chestionar, iar dup&#259; &#8211; va avea consultul cu medicul genetician, care va corela toate aceste informa&#539;ii &#537;i va lua &#238;n calcul &#537;i rezultatul altor investiga&#539;ii medicale, dac&#259; exist&#259;. El e cel care va recomanda consulturi ulterioare la specialist, dac&#259; e cazul, &#238;n niciun caz nu decidem singuri ce investiga&#539;ii avem nevoie.</p><p>&#8222;Scopul acestui test este preven&#539;ia &#537;i &#238;mputernicirea oamenilor pentru a lua anumite m&#259;suri&#8221;, spune dr. Stoian. &#8222;Unele &#539;in de stilul de via&#539;&#259;, altele &#8211; de a face anumite evalu&#259;ri medicale pe care poate nu prea ne vine s&#259; le facem, dar pe care, &#238;n aceste condi&#539;ii, le vom face.&#8221;</p><p><em>Articol sus&#539;inut de MedLife.</em></p><div><hr></div><p>&#536;tiu, a fost o edi&#539;ie lung&#259; &#537;i grea. Ne revedem &#238;n decembrie, cu ni&#537;te evalu&#259;ri &#537;i prognoze &#537;i, promit, &#537;i cu ceva mai <em>light</em>. Poate chiar <em>fun</em>. </p><p>Mul&#539;umesc,</p><p>Sorana</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[[Ediție extra] Lămuriri de la Colegiul Psihologilor]]></title><description><![CDATA[despre ce este &#537;i nu este un psihoterapeut]]></description><link>https://sorana.substack.com/p/editie-extra-lamuriri-de-la-colegiul</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://sorana.substack.com/p/editie-extra-lamuriri-de-la-colegiul</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Sorana Stănescu]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2025 05:01:52 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EUKy!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F35eb46f8-7b4e-42fa-a617-0689c39a4aff.heic" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salut!</p><p>Dup&#259; <a href="https://pressone.ro/o-cariera-de-abuz-alte-7-femei-il-acuza-pe-medicul-cristian-andrei-de-abuzuri-sexuale-relatarile-se-intind-pe-o-perioada-de-peste-20-de-ani">dezv&#259;luirile recente din pres&#259;</a>, conform c&#259;rora psihiatrul Cristian Andrei ar fi profesat 20 de ani ca psihoterapeut, f&#259;r&#259; s&#259; fi f&#259;cut o &#537;coal&#259; de formare, &#537;i ar fi avut rela&#539;ii sexuale cu mai multe dintre pacientele sale, au reap&#259;rut o serie de &#238;ntreb&#259;ri despre cine &#537;i &#238;n ce condi&#539;ii poate profesa ca psiholog, respectiv psihoterapeut, care sunt responsabilit&#259;&#539;ile &#537;i limitele fiec&#259;ruia, cine are nevoie de o diplom&#259;/un atestat &#537;i de unde &#238;l ob&#539;ine.</p><p>La unele dintre aceste &#238;ntreb&#259;ri am r&#259;spuns <a href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/diferenta-dintre-un-psiholog-si-un">&#238;ntr-un articol de anul acesta</a>, iar pe altele i le-am adresat ieri, 13 noiembrie, <strong>pre&#537;edintelui <a href="http://www.copsi.ro/">Colegiului Psihologilor</a> (CoPsi), institu&#539;ia care reglementeaz&#259; profesia</strong>, Edmond Cracsner.</p><p>R&#259;spunsurile lui au clarificat unele aspecte, dar au &#537;i ridicat altele, care mie &#238;mi indic&#259; c&#259; CoPsi (&#537;i breasla, &#238;n general) nu &#238;&#537;i asum&#259; responsabilitatea complet&#259; fa&#539;&#259; de noi, pacien&#539;ii (sau clien&#539;ii &#8211; denumirile variaz&#259;), iar asta, dup&#259; cum vedem, las&#259; loc abuzurilor.</p><p>&#536;i c&#226;t timp va exista neclaritate, vor exista &#537;i impostura &#537;i abuzul.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><h2>Uite ce trebuie s&#259; &#537;tii &#238;nainte s&#259; cite&#537;ti interviul:</h2><ol><li><p>Ca s&#259; devin&#259; <strong>psiholog practicant</strong>, un absolvent de Psihologie trebuie s&#259; &#238;&#537;i ia un atestat de liber&#259; practic&#259; de la Colegiul Psihologilor &#537;i minimum un an s&#259; lucreze sub supervizarea unui psiholog senior (acesta nu st&#259; cu el &#238;n cabinet, dar &#238;l mentoreaz&#259;, &#238;n &#537;edin&#539;e individuale &#537;i de grup, analizeaz&#259; &#238;mpreun&#259; cazuri mai grele etc.), plus 100 de ore de dezvoltare personal&#259;. De abia dup&#259; aceea devine autonom &#537;i poate &#238;nainta &#238;n &#8222;grad&#8221;.</p></li><li><p>Psihologii se pot specializa &#238;ntr-una din specializ&#259;rile: psihologie clinic&#259;; consiliere psihologic&#259;; psihoterapie; psihologia muncii &#537;i organiza&#539;ional&#259;; psihologie educa&#539;ional&#259;, consiliere &#537;colar&#259; &#537;i voca&#539;ional&#259;; psihologia aplicat&#259; &#238;n servicii; psihologia transporturilor; psihologie aplicat&#259; &#238;n domeniul securit&#259;&#539;ii na&#539;ionale sau psihologie judiciar&#259;. (Detalii &#8211; <a href="https://legislatie.just.ro/Public/DetaliiDocumentAfis/248536">&#238;n aceste norme</a>.)</p></li><li><p>Exist&#259; mai multe trepte care &#238;&#539;i indic&#259; c&#226;t de &#8222;senior&#8221; e psihologul: practicant sub supervizare sau autonom, specialist &#537;i principal, fiecare av&#226;nd competen&#539;e, responsabilit&#259;&#539;i &#537;i limit&#259;ri diferite. Descrierea detaliat&#259; a competen&#539;elor pentru fiecare specialitate &#537;i nivel e &#238;n <a href="https://legislatie.just.ro/Public/DetaliiDocumentAfis/229367">aceste norme din 2019</a>.</p></li><li><p><strong>Psihoterapeut</strong> poate deveni nu doar un psiholog, ci &#537;i un psihiatru sau un absolvent de teologie, filozofie, asisten&#539;&#259; social&#259;, psihopedagogie dup&#259; ce face un program de formare de lung&#259; durat&#259; (adic&#259; o &#537;coal&#259; de psihoterapie de minimum trei ani, de diferite tipuri: cognitiv comportamental&#259;, integrativ&#259;, psihanalitic&#259; etc.) &#537;i o perioad&#259; de supervizare de minimum doi ani, plus 250 de ore de dezvoltare personal&#259;.<br>&#206;n Rom&#226;nia, psihoterapia nu se studiaz&#259; la facultate.</p></li><li><p><strong>Dac&#259; e&#537;ti asigurat la s&#259;n&#259;tate, ai dreptul &#537;i la unele servicii psihologice gratuite, </strong>dac&#259; medicul t&#259;u specialist curant &#238;&#539;i recomand&#259; asta (&#537;i nu e valabil pentru toate afec&#539;iunile, dar pentru destul de multe &#8211; <a href="https://cnas.ro/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Binder1-5.pdf">aici, la pagina 137</a>). <br>Dar sistemul este incredibil de greoi, psihologii care fac asta sunt foarte pu&#539;ini, &#537;i num&#259;rul de &#537;edin&#539;e/client este limitat. </p><p>Piedica cea mai mare e c&#259; psihologul nu poate &#238;ncheia contract direct &#8222;cu Casa&#8221;, ci cu un medic care are, la r&#226;ndul lui, contract cu Casa, pentru c&#259; serviciile psihologice nu sunt considerate servicii medicale, ci &#8222;conexe actului medical&#8221; (e formularea mea preferat&#259; din toat&#259; legaleza sistemului medical).</p></li><li><p><strong>Ca s&#259; verifici dac&#259; psihologul sau psihoterapeutul la care vrei s&#259; mergi chiar e ceea ce pretinde</strong>, du-te pe site-ul CoPsI / Registre / Registrul Unic al Psihologilor (R.U.P.) / R.U.P. Partea I &#8211; atestate de liber&#259; practic&#259; &#537;i descarc&#259; fi&#537;ierul.</p></li></ol><blockquote><p>DOAR C&#258; <strong>mul&#539;i medici care au f&#259;cut formare &#238;n psihoterapie &#537;i practic&#259; psihoterapia nu sunt &#238;n acest registru, pentru c&#259; nu le-a fost clar c&#259; trebuie s&#259; se &#238;nscrie &#238;n Colegiul Psihologilor, ei nefiind... psihologi.</strong></p><p>Pe de alt&#259; parte, exist&#259; <a href="https://www.psihoterapie.ro/">Federa&#539;ia Na&#539;ional&#259; a Psihoterapeu&#539;ilor</a> (FRP), un ONG umbrel&#259;, care reune&#537;te toate &#537;colile de formare acreditate (de Colegiul Psihologilor), care are &#537;i ea <a href="https://www.psihoterapie.ro/registre/">un registru, al psihoterapeu&#539;ilor</a>. </p><p>Numai c&#259; acesta nu e recunoscut &#8222;oficial&#8221;, FRP nefiind o autoritate na&#539;ional&#259; cu atribu&#539;ii de reglementare &#8211; <a href="https://www.copsi.ro/images/files/dosare/2.1._Proiect_-_Regulamentul_de_organizare_si_functionare_interna_al_CPR_ROFI_propunere_echipa_desemnata_varianta_initiala.pdf">doar Colegiul este</a>. (O men&#539;iune: nu &#238;nseamn&#259; c&#259; to&#539;i din registrul &#259;sta &#537;i practic&#259;, ci doar c&#259; au absolvit o &#537;coal&#259; de formare &#238;n psihoterapie. Valabil &#537;i pentru cei de la CoPsi.)</p><p>De curiozitate, <strong>am suprapus cele dou&#259; tabele &#8211; cel de la CoPsi &#537;i cel de la FRP &#8211;, ca s&#259; v&#259;d c&#226;&#539;i psihiatri-psihoterapeu&#539;i se reg&#259;sesc &#238;n ambele </strong>(zic psihiatri, dar pot fi &#537;i asisten&#539;i sociali etc., dup&#259; cum am explicat mai sus), practic c&#226;&#539;i au &#537;tiut/au vrut s&#259; se &#238;nscrie &#537;i la Colegiu.</p><p>&#129345; Dac&#259; AI nu a gre&#537;it, e vorba de 156.</p><p>156 din peste 61.000 &#238;n lista Colegiului, respectiv peste 1.200 &#238;n registrul FRP.</p><p>Un num&#259;r at&#226;t de mic mie &#238;mi arat&#259; c&#226;t de mult&#259; neclaritate exist&#259; &#238;n breasl&#259;. Nu vreau s&#259; zic nep&#259;sare sau condescenden&#539;&#259;, sigur sunt &#537;i acestea pe alocuri, dar confuzie &#8211; sigur.</p></blockquote><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Foaia de observa&#539;ie este proiectul meu jurnalistic independent. Este &#537;i va r&#259;m&#226;ne gratuit. Dac&#259; vrei s&#259;-i sus&#539;ii misiunea, &#238;&#539;i po&#539;i face un abonament pl&#259;tit.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h2>&#536;i acum, uite punctele cheie din interviul cu pre&#537;edintele Colegiului Psihologilor, </h2><p>dar merit&#259; s&#259; &#238;l cite&#537;ti &#238;n &#238;ntregime:</p><ul><li><p><strong>Ca un medic psihiatru s&#259; practice psihoterapia, nu e suficient s&#259; fac&#259; o &#537;coal&#259; de formare, ci trebuie s&#259; fac&#259; &#537;i ni&#537;te cursuri universitare &#537;i s&#259; se &#238;nscrie la Colegiul Psihologilor.</strong></p></li><li><p>Un psiholog, respectiv un medic psihiatru, se poate denumi psihoterapeut &#537;i poate profesa ca atare doar dup&#259; ce a f&#259;cut primii doi ani din &#537;coala de formare &#238;n psihoterapie (care de obicei dureaz&#259; patru) &#537;i dup&#259; ce &#537;i-a depus dosarul la CoPsi. P&#226;n&#259; atunci e ilegal s&#259; se prezinte ca psihoterapeut &#537;i s&#259; ofere servicii, chiar dac&#259; a &#238;nceput formarea.</p></li><li><p>CoPsi nu verific&#259; calitatea serviciilor oferite de psihologi &#537;i psihoterapeu&#539;i, pentru c&#259; nu are nici metodologie, nici echipe &#238;n teren.</p></li><li><p>Un psiholog poate profesa ca practicant sub supervizare, adic&#259; prima treapt&#259;, pe via&#539;&#259;, pentru c&#259; nu exist&#259; o perioad&#259; maxim&#259; &#8211; Colegiul a vrut s&#259; schimbe asta, dar n-a mers p&#226;n&#259; la cap&#259;t. E ca &#537;i cum un absolvent de medicin&#259; ar r&#259;m&#226;ne pe via&#539;&#259; rezident (compara&#539;ia &#238;mi apar&#539;ine).</p></li><li><p>Colegiul nu crede c&#259; e responsabilitatea lui s&#259; &#539;in&#259; o eviden&#539;&#259; a psihologilor care &#8222;lucreaz&#259; cu Casa&#8221;, adic&#259; unde putem merge gratis, &#238;n baza asigur&#259;rii de s&#259;n&#259;tate.</p><p></p></li></ul><h2><br>Interviul, pe larg, editat pentru claritate:</h2><p><strong>&#10145;&#65039; Cum &#238;i pot identifica oamenii pe psihoterapeu&#539;ii care au alt&#259; formare la baz&#259;, dec&#226;t psihologia? Ce trebuie s&#259; scrie &#238;n dreptul lor?</strong></p><p>&#206;n Registrul Unic al psihologilor din Rom&#226;nia exist&#259; psihologi care au <em>atestat</em> &#238;n psihoterapie, &#537;i sunt persoane cu alte specialit&#259;&#539;i, &#238;n dreptul c&#259;rora se men&#539;ioneaz&#259; &#8222;competen&#539;&#259; &#238;n...&#8221;. Competen&#539;&#259; &#238;n psihoterapie, &#238;n cazul &#259;sta (n.r. coloana J din tabel). </p><p>&#206;n psihoterapie pot ob&#539;ine competen&#539;&#259; &#537;i persoane care au alte specializ&#259;ri, specificate &#238;n <a href="https://legislatie.just.ro/Public/DetaliiDocument/64016">HG 788/2005</a>, care aprob&#259; normele de aplicare a <a href="https://legislatie.just.ro/Public/DetaliiDocument/52375">legii 213/2004</a> (n.r. cea care reglementeaz&#259; profesia), &#537;i anume: medici psihiatri (exclusiv psihiatri), teologi, asisten&#539;i sociali, filozofi, pedagogi.</p><p>Pentru asta, trebuie s&#259; &#238;ndeplineasc&#259; ni&#537;te criterii. Unul dintre criterii este c&#259;, dac&#259; nu au &#8211; &#537;i de regul&#259; nu au &#8211; toate disciplinele cerute pentru accesul &#238;n psihoterapie, s&#259; urmeze obligatoriu prin studii universitare un pachet de discipline, &#238;n general legate de psihologie, fundamentele psihologiei, psihodiagnoz&#259;, psihologia dezvolt&#259;rii.</p><p><strong><br>&#10145;&#65039; Deci pur &#537;i simplu se &#238;nscriu la facultate &#537;i iau doar cursurile acelea?</strong></p><p>Da. Se pot &#238;nscrie la facult&#259;&#539;ile de psihologie, fie la un program de licen&#539;&#259;, fie la masterat, nu conteaz&#259;, dar s&#259; aib&#259; absolvite disciplinele respective cu credite universitare.</p><p><strong><br>&#10145;&#65039; &#536;i asta &#238;nainte de a &#238;ncepe &#537;coala de formare &#238;n psihoterapie? Sau pot merge &#238;n paralel?</strong> </p><p>Pachetul de discipline le este necesar c&#226;nd vin s&#259; acceseze profesia, adic&#259; &#238;&#537;i depun la Colegiu dosarul pentru a ob&#539;ine competen&#539;&#259; &#238;n psihoterapie, &#238;n supervizare, care este prima treapt&#259; pentru toate specializ&#259;rile. Pot s&#259; le studieze &#238;nainte sau &#238;n acela&#537;i timp cu formarea de baz&#259;.</p><p>Pot s&#259; depun&#259; dosarul <em>dup&#259; primii doi ani </em>de formare ini&#539;ial&#259; (&#238;n psihoterapie de regul&#259; exist&#259; dou&#259; module de formare), dac&#259; au pachetul de discipline absolvit &#537;i un certificat de la furnizorul de formare acreditat. <strong>Altfel nu au acces, chiar dac&#259; au &#238;nceput formarea.</strong></p><p>Al doilea modul este cel de supervizare, care dureaz&#259; un an, un an jum&#259;tate, doi ani sau chiar mai mult. Depinde de furnizorul de formare &#537;i de metodologia fiec&#259;rei metode practice de profesare a psihoterapiei.</p><p><strong><br>&#10145;&#65039; &#536;i odat&#259; ce psihoterapeutul cu alt&#259; formare la baz&#259; a depus la Colegiu dosarul, el va ap&#259;rea &#238;n Registru ca av&#226;nd competen&#539;&#259; &#238;n psihoterapie, s&#259; zicem cognitiv-comportamental&#259;, treapta sub supervizare?</strong></p><p>Da. De atunci poate &#238;ncepe s&#259; profeseze. Doar din momentul acela poate s&#259; se considere psihoterapeut.</p><p><strong><br>&#10145;&#65039; Cineva care nu a depus dosarul la Colegiu &#537;i automat nu apare &#238;n registru ca av&#226;nd competen&#539;&#259; &#238;n psihoterapie?</strong></p><p>Nu poate practica profesia. E valabil pentru toate specialit&#259;&#539;ile.</p><p><strong><br>&#10145;&#65039; Chiar dac&#259; a f&#259;cut &#537;coala de formare &#238;n psihoterapie?</strong></p><p>Chiar dac&#259; a f&#259;cut &#537;coala de formare. F&#259;r&#259; un atestat de la Colegiu, nu poate practica. Asta &#238;nseamn&#259; practic&#259; nelegal&#259; a profesiei.</p><p><strong><br>&#10145;&#65039; Care sunt sanc&#539;iunile?</strong></p><p>Colegiul nu poate da sanc&#539;iuni pentru cei care nu sunt membri ai Colegiului.</p><p>Dar dac&#259; ne autozesiz&#259;m sau cineva ne semnaleaz&#259; o astfel de situa&#539;ie, formul&#259;m pl&#226;ngere penal&#259; pentru practica nelegal&#259; a profesiei. &#536;i avem nenum&#259;rate cazuri &#238;n care am f&#259;cut-o.</p><p><strong><br>&#10145;&#65039; Nici m&#259;car un psiholog </strong><em><strong>deja &#238;nregistrat</strong></em><strong> la Colegiu, care a &#238;nceput &#537;coala de formare &#238;n psihoterapie, dar nu &#537;i-a depus dosarul dup&#259; cei doi ani, nu se poate prezenta &#537;i vinde serviciile ca psihoterapeut?</strong></p><p>Sub nicio form&#259; nu poate oferi servicii.</p><p><strong><br>&#10145;&#65039; &#536;ti&#539;i c&#259; sunt mul&#539;i care fac asta, care &#238;&#537;i fac publicitate ca fiind psihoterapeu&#539;i?</strong></p><p><strong>Nu.</strong></p><p>Nu cunosc, dar cert este c&#259; nu au dreptul s&#259; fac&#259; acest lucru &#238;n perioada de formare. &#206;n perioada de supervizare, da. Supervizarea e &#537;i ea o activitate formativ&#259;, dar &#537;i de practic&#259; controlat&#259;, care dureaz&#259; un an pentru toate specialit&#259;&#539;ile &#537;i mai mult pentru consiliere &#537;i psihoterapie (n.r. indiferent ce e&#537;ti la baz&#259;).</p><p><strong><br>&#10145;&#65039; Sunt &#537;i psihologi care apar &#238;n registru ca practicant &#238;n diferite specialit&#259;&#539;i, sub supervizare din 2010-2011. Au trecut 14 ani &#537;i ei sunt tot &#238;n supervizare. De ce se poate asta?</strong></p><p>Pentru c&#259; nu a existat o interdic&#539;ie a profesiei. Da, sunt unele situa&#539;ii de genul &#259;sta.</p><p>&#206;n norme se specific&#259; foarte clar c&#259; trecerea de la o treapt&#259; profesional&#259; la cealalt&#259;, sau de la un grad profesional la altul (n.r. &#8222;grad&#8221; &#238;nseamn&#259; sub supervizare sau autonom), se realizeaz&#259; dup&#259; minim 5 ani, dar nu exist&#259; o limit&#259; maxim&#259;. La un moment dat, Colegiul a intervenit &#537;i a spus c&#259; &#238;n 10 ani ar trebui s&#259; treci la urm&#259;toarea treapt&#259;, &#238;n caz contrar, va trebui s&#259; iei procesul de la cap&#259;t. Avem un proiect de lege &#238;n sensul &#259;sta, de modificare a legii 213. </p><p><strong><br>&#10145;&#65039; Dar neav&#226;nd aceast&#259; limit&#259; maxim&#259;, dac&#259; legea nu se schimb&#259;, pot profesa a&#537;a p&#226;n&#259; la pensie?</strong></p><p>Pot profesa sub supervizare &#238;n dou&#259; condi&#539;ii: 1. &#206;n permanen&#539;&#259; s&#259; aib&#259; contract de supervizare. Dac&#259; nu, practic&#259; nelegal profesia. &#536;i 2. Trebuie s&#259; practice aceast&#259; profesie &#238;ntr-o form&#259; legal&#259; de exercitare a profesiei.</p><p>&#536;i noi avem stipulate &#238;n Hot&#259;r&#226;rea de Guvern trei modalit&#259;&#539;i de practicare a profesiei: cabinet individual, cabinet asociat, societate civil&#259; profesional&#259; de psihologie.</p><p>Iar pentru anumite structuri, pentru anumite entit&#259;&#539;i, cum sunt entit&#259;&#539;i ale statului, autorit&#259;&#539;i, poli&#539;ie, armat&#259;, CJRAE (n.r. Centrele Jude&#539;ene de Resurse &#537;i Asisten&#539;&#259; Educa&#539;ional&#259;, care reunesc logopezii, consilierii &#537;colari, profesorii de sprijin etc.), Direc&#539;iile de asisten&#539;&#259; social&#259;, spitale, <a href="https://legislatie.just.ro/Public/DetaliiDocument/79529">Hot&#259;r&#226;rea 1/2006</a> vine cu o nou&#259; form&#259; de exercitare, &#537;i anume structura de psihologie. Pentru c&#259; autorit&#259;&#539;ile respective nu au structura &#238;n organigrama lor cabinet individual, cabinet asociat etc. &#536;i atunci orice denumire de &#8222;birou&#8221;, &#8222;sec&#539;ie&#8221;, &#8222;laborator&#8221;, etc., a primit aceast&#259; denumire generic&#259; de &#8222;structur&#259; de psihologie&#8221;.</p><p>Da, po&#539;i r&#259;m&#226;ne &#238;n supervizare <em>&#224; la longue</em> &#238;n momentul de fa&#539;&#259;.</p><p>Dar ca s&#259; treci la urm&#259;toarea treapt&#259;, dup&#259; 1-2 ani (n.r. din cei maximum cinci), ar trebui, &#238;n mod firesc, <em>s&#259; vrei</em> s&#259;-&#539;i ob&#539;ii autonomia. Pentru c&#259; altfel vei fi obligat, dac&#259; practici, s&#259; ai contract de supervizare cu un supervizor. Or contractul &#259;sta se pl&#259;te&#537;te. &#536;i s&#259; pl&#259;te&#537;ti ani de zile un supervizor, mi se pare absurd. Adic&#259; nu mai ai niciun beneficiu, munce&#537;ti doar ca s&#259; pl&#259;te&#537;ti supervizorului.</p><p>&#536;i, pe de alt&#259; parte, pu&#539;in probabil, ca fiind &#238;n supervizare <em>&#224; la longue</em>, s&#259; te po&#539;i promova &#238;n rela&#539;ia cu clientul. Un client va fi destul de rezervat, at&#226;ta timp c&#226;t nu ai toate competen&#539;ele, pentru c&#259;, pe trepte &#537;i grade profesionale, sunt &#537;i ele defalcate, nu po&#539;i face orice.</p><p><strong><br>&#10145;&#65039; Cum verifica&#539;i calitatea serviciilor oferite de membrii Colegiului, de psihologi?</strong></p><p>Colegiul are standarde de calitate cu privire la modul &#238;n care se organizeaz&#259; &#537;i func&#539;ioneaz&#259; forma de exercitare a profesiei.</p><p><strong><br>&#10145;&#65039; Concret, cum face asta?</strong></p><p>Verificarea se face &#238;n baza dosarului prin care se deschide &#537;i se &#238;nregistreaz&#259; forma de exercitare a profesiei la Colegiu.</p><p><strong><br>&#10145;&#65039; &#536;i ulterior se face &#238;n baza dosarului de trecere &#238;ntr-o treapt&#259; superior&#259;?</strong></p><p>Permanent avem acest control. Bine, asta e o modalitate de a face controlul, pentru c&#259; avem &#537;i control profesional. Care, din p&#259;cate, nu a func&#539;ionat, e adev&#259;rat.</p><p><strong><br>&#10145;&#65039; Ce &#238;nseamn&#259; control profesional? &#206;n teren?</strong></p><p>&#206;n teren. Ar trebui s&#259; avem echipe de control &#238;n teren, &#238;n conformitate cu normele Colegiului. &#536;i, din nefericire, controlul &#259;sta profesional nu a fost executat.</p><p><br>&#10145;&#65039; <strong>De ce?</strong></p><p>Din varii motive. &#206;n primul r&#226;nd c&#259; <strong>nu exist&#259; o metodologie de control</strong>, &#238;n momentul de fa&#539;&#259;. </p><p><br>&#10145;&#65039; <strong>Cine trebuie s&#259; o elaboreze?</strong></p><p>Avem alte modalit&#259;&#539;i de control, dar nu, efectiv, echipe care s&#259; verifice pe teren, cum sunt, de exemplu, echipele de control de la Ministerul Transporturilor, pentru siguran&#539;a circula&#539;iei, inclusiv &#238;n cabinetele de psihologie autorizate de Ministerul Transporturilor. Sau s&#259; vin&#259; DSP (n.r. Direc&#539;ia de S&#259;n&#259;tate Public&#259;) la cabinetul care are contract cu Casa.</p><p>Da, din p&#259;cate lucrul &#259;sta nu s-a realizat. Este un minus al activit&#259;&#539;ii noastre. Problema asta a fost de num&#259;rat&#259; ori ridicat&#259;, dar nu s-a g&#259;sit o solu&#539;ie.</p><p>&#206;ncerc&#259;ri de-a lungul timpului au fost. Chiar eu, c&#226;nd eram pre&#537;edintele filialei teritoriale Bucure&#537;ti, am ini&#539;iat un astfel de control &#238;n 10 entit&#259;&#539;ii de psihologie: cinci din structurile de securitate, unde controlul a fost executat, &#537;i cinci din mediul privat, cabinete individuale. Unde nu s-a putut realiza pentru c&#259; nu s-a perfectat &#238;n&#539;elegerea &#238;ntre cel controlat &#537;i cei care au controlat.</p><p><strong><br>&#10145;&#65039; Ce &#238;nseamn&#259; c&#259; &#8222;nu s-a perfectat &#238;n&#539;elegerea&#8221;?</strong></p><p>Nu s-au &#238;nt&#226;lnit, la data, ora &#537;i locul stabilite.</p><p><strong><br>&#10145;&#65039; Da, dar cabinetul are un program de func&#539;ionare, nu?</strong></p><p>&#206;mi pare r&#259;u, este trist lucrul &#259;sta, <strong>din p&#259;cate nu avem un control eficient, ca s&#259; nu spun altfel.</strong></p><p><strong><br>&#10145;&#65039; Dar dac&#259; ne-am dori s&#259; avem, &#238;n ce ar costa metodologia aceasta din teren de verificare a calit&#259;&#539;ii, la cabinet?</strong></p><p>De la aspectele de respectare a metodologiei, a normelor de etic&#259; &#537;i de deontologie profesional&#259;, p&#226;n&#259; la faptul c&#259; exist&#259; registre de eviden&#539;&#259;, intr&#259;ri, ie&#537;iri, eliberare de rapoarte. Deci, o eviden&#539;&#259; a tuturor actelor psihologice eliberate de psiholog.</p><p>Apoi, registrul de timbre, faptul c&#259; rapoartele au plecat c&#259;tre beneficiar timbrate pentru anumite zone: munc&#259;, transporturi, securitate, psihologie clinic&#259;. &#206;n psihoterapie nu se aplic&#259;.</p><p>Apoi, faptul c&#259; se p&#259;streaz&#259; &#238;n condi&#539;ii optime arhiva.</p><p><br>&#10145;&#65039; <strong>Deci un control mai degrab&#259; administrativ.</strong></p><p>&#536;i administrativ, dar &#537;i profesional, efectiv. Modul &#238;n care &#238;&#537;i desf&#259;&#537;oar&#259; activitatea.</p><p><strong><br>&#10145;&#65039; Comisia de control ar asista la o &#537;edin&#539;&#259; de consiliere?</strong></p><p>Nu, nu este &#238;n atributul comisiei de control astfel de chestiuni. P&#226;n&#259; la urm&#259;, rela&#539;ia direct&#259; &#238;ntre psiholog &#537;i beneficiar nu trebuie asistat&#259;, dec&#226;t cu acordul celui care prime&#537;te serviciile psihologice.</p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/p/editie-extra-lamuriri-de-la-colegiul?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/editie-extra-lamuriri-de-la-colegiul?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><p><br>&#10145;&#65039; <strong>Unde pot g&#259;si oamenii o eviden&#539;&#259; a psihologilor care lucreaz&#259; cu Casa?</strong></p><p>Colegiul nu are o eviden&#539;&#259;.</p><p><strong><br>&#10145;&#65039; De ce nu are? Ar putea s&#259; aib&#259;?</strong></p><p>Este o chestiune privat&#259;, personal&#259;, a psihologului dac&#259; &#238;ncheie contractul cu Casa. Nu avem o obliga&#539;ie legal&#259; &#238;n sensul acesta.</p><p><strong><br>&#10145;&#65039; Dar ar fi un beneficiu pentru pacien&#539;i, clien&#539;i, cum vrem s&#259;-i numim.</strong></p><p>Da, dar &#238;n condi&#539;iile date, nu este obligativitatea Colegiului.</p><p>Am putea face o eviden&#539;&#259; s&#259; zic, grosier&#259;, pentru c&#259; atunci c&#226;nd &#238;ncheie contractul cu Casa, pentru a declara la Direc&#539;ia de S&#259;n&#259;tate Public&#259; acel cabinet &#537;i a-l &#238;nregistra, au nevoie de o adeverin&#539;&#259; de la Colegiu. Deci &#238;n baza acestei adeverin&#539;e, am putea face o eviden&#539;&#259;, dar nu avem certitudinea c&#259; cei c&#259;rora le-am eliberat adeverin&#539;a vor &#537;i face contract.</p><p><strong><br>&#10145;&#65039; Pe de alt&#259; parte, Casa spune &#8222;psihologii sunt furnizori de servicii conexe, nu medicale, nici treaba noastr&#259; nu este s&#259; facem eviden&#539;a asta&#8221;.</strong></p><p>Da, dar orice cabinet &#238;nregistrat la DSP, &#238;l g&#259;sim la DSP. &#536;i orice contract este &#238;nregistrat la Cas&#259;...</p><p><strong><br>&#10145;&#65039; Numai c&#259; &#238;ntre Colegiu, care spune &#8222;nu e responsabilitatea noastr&#259;&#8221;, &#537;i Cas&#259;, care spune acela&#537;i lucru, omul r&#259;m&#226;ne la mijloc.</strong></p><p>De ce? &#206;l direc&#539;ioneaz&#259; medicul specialist. Dac&#259; o persoan&#259; vrea s&#259; beneficieze de servicii psihologice decontate de cas&#259;, nu se poate duce direct la psiholog (n.r. are nevoie de un bilet de trimitere de la un medic de anume specialit&#259;&#539;i, iar medicul respectiv are contract cu unul sau mai mul&#539;i psihologi).</p><p><strong><br>&#10145;&#65039; &#536;i medicul de unde &#537;tie ce psiholog ar vrea s&#259; lucreze cu Casa, unde-i g&#259;se&#537;te?</strong></p><p>Este o chestiune de cerere &#537;i ofert&#259; pe pia&#539;a muncii. Dac&#259; psihologul dore&#537;te s&#259; presteze servicii prin contract cu Casa, se adreseaz&#259; unui medic. Are lista cu specialit&#259;&#539;ile medicale (n.r. care pot da bilet de trimitere) &#537;i bate la u&#537;a medicului. &#8222;Ave&#539;i nevoie de serviciile mele?&#8221; Medicul spune &#8222;da&#8221;, ok, facem contract &#238;n sensul &#259;sta. 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isPermaLink="false">https://sorana.substack.com/p/unde-poti-face-mamografii-gratuit</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Sorana Stănescu]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2025 05:00:56 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!znuV!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa522e9b7-5c0a-4de6-a45b-2277d06c3ca6_907x700.heic" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salut,</p><p>&#537;i bine te-am reg&#259;sit, &#238;n alt anotimp (mie nu-mi plac deloc toamna &#537;i iarna, sper s&#259; trecem u&#537;or peste). De la ultima edi&#539;ie, am fost la <a href="https://www.rfi.fr/ro/podcasturi/s%C4%83n%C4%83tatea-fm/20251008-foaia-de-observa%C8%9Bie-sau-cum-s%C4%83-navighezi-mai-u%C8%99or-%C3%AEn-sistemul-medical-rom%C3%A2nesc">o emisiune la RFI</a> &#537;i la s&#259;rb&#259;torirea a 20 de ani a <a href="https://publichealth.ro/">Departamentului de S&#259;n&#259;tate Public&#259;</a> de la Universitatea &#8222;Babe&#537;-Bolyai&#8221;, din Cluj, unde le-am vorbit studen&#539;ilor despre responsabilitatea de a interac&#539;iona cu presa &#537;i de a ie&#537;i &#238;n comunitate. </p><p>Acolo mi-a venit &#537;i ideea de a face un Ghid al Neasiguratului &#537;i un Ghid al Corporatistului (pe cel <a href="https://cnas.ro/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Ghidul-asiguratului-editia-3.pdf">al Asiguratulu</a>i l-a f&#259;cut CNAS) &#8211; a&#539;i fi interesa&#539;i?</p><p>Azi avem o serie de informa&#539;ii utilitare, cu focus pe mamografii &#8211; c&#226;nd sunt recomandate, unde &#537;i cum le po&#539;i face gratuit, pentru c&#259; octombrie este luna con&#537;tientiz&#259;rii cancerului de s&#226;n. Iar la final &#8211; c&#226;teva recomand&#259;ri pentru timpul liber &#537;i dou&#259; bilete cadou la spectacol.</p><h2><strong>Vaccinul gripal</strong> </h2><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/sorana.stanescu/posts/pfbid02vePYh5D1F8ST2wqrjC8T8KpyLKi8qFtkt7hg5L6CcfaJgkHHWveRNLJNeEKAjmWGl">Am scris detaliat pe Facebook</a>, reiau aici doar informa&#539;iile pe care nu le primi&#539;i de la televizor (nu pentru c&#259; jurnali&#537;tii ar fi r&#259;u-inten&#539;iona&#539;i, ci pentru c&#259; sunt detalii pe care mul&#539;i nu le &#537;tiu):</p><p>1. Ca s&#259; primi&#539;i re&#539;et&#259; gratuit&#259; sau compensat&#259; 50% (<a href="https://insp.gov.ro/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/Anexa.pdf">dac&#259; v&#259; &#238;ncadra&#539;i</a>), &#537;i ave&#539;i &#238;ntre 19 &#537;i 65 de ani, <strong>trebuie s&#259; fi&#539;i asigura&#539;i</strong> (fie c&#259; sunte&#539;i salaria&#539;i, c&#259; &#8222;pl&#259;ti&#539;i din m&#226;n&#259;&#8221;, c&#259; sunte&#539;i co-asigurat sau &#238;ntr-un Program Na&#539;ional de S&#259;n&#259;tate etc.).</p><blockquote><p>&#9888;&#65039; Dac&#259; sunte&#539;i un adult *<strong>neasigurat</strong>*, nu primi&#539;i re&#539;et&#259; gratuit&#259; sau compensat&#259; (cu excep&#539;ia gravidelor &#537;i pensionarilor, care sunt asigura&#539;i &#8222;<em>by default</em>&#8221;).</p></blockquote><p>2. Re&#539;eta compensat&#259; sau gratuit&#259; o pute&#539;i lua de la <em>orice medic</em> &#238;n contract cu Casa, nu doar de la medicul de familie.</p><p>3. Pute&#539;i face vaccinul nu doar la medicul de familie, ci &#537;i la un medic &#8222;vaccinator&#8221; (adic&#259; pediatru, infec&#539;ionist, epidemiolog sau de orice alt&#259; specialitate, dac&#259; a f&#259;cut un anume curs &#537;i, nu, nu exist&#259; o list&#259; undeva). Sau la unele farmacii care s-au autorizat pentru asta, <em>dac&#259; ai mai f&#259;cut acest vaccin &#238;n trecut</em>. A&#537;tept&#259;m o list&#259; de la Ministerul S&#259;n&#259;t&#259;&#539;ii, de&#537;i mi-au spus unii cititori c&#259; au f&#259;cut asta deja &#238;n farmacie.</p><h2><strong><br>Vaccinul HPV </strong></h2><p>De luna asta, nu doar femeile, ci &#537;i b&#259;rba&#539;ii &#238;ntre 19 &#537;i 26 de ani pot face vaccinul HPV gratuit (p&#226;n&#259; acum, gratuit era doar pentru ambele sexe p&#226;n&#259; la 18 ani &#537;i pentru femei p&#226;n&#259; la 26). De la 26 la 45 de ani, e compensat 50% pentru femei.</p><blockquote><p>&#9888;&#65039; Ca &#537;i la vaccinul gripat, trebuie s&#259; fii asigurat(&#259;) ca s&#259; prime&#537;ti gratuit sau compensat.</p><p>&#9888;&#65039; 26, respectiv 45 de ani &#238;nseamn&#259; 27 de ani f&#259;r&#259; o zi, respectiv 46 de ani f&#259;r&#259; o zi.</p></blockquote><h2><strong><br><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fv8Bv2NkYlc">10 lucruri esen&#539;iale despre mamografie</a></strong></h2><p>De la <em>C&#226;t dureaz&#259;?</em>, <em>Pentru ce tip de &#539;esut este util&#259;?</em>, <em>Care e diferen&#539;a &#238;ntre mamografia 2D &#537;i cea cu tomosintez&#259;?</em>, p&#226;n&#259; la <em>Doare?</em>. Am f&#259;cut <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fv8Bv2NkYlc">un interviu</a> cu dr. Carmen Lisencu, de la Institutul Oncologic din Cluj, unul dintre cei mai buni senologi de la noi.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Foaia de observa&#539;ie este &#537;i va r&#259;m&#226;ne gratuit&#259;, dar asta &#238;nseamn&#259; ca eu s&#259; fac alte proiecte pl&#259;tite. Dac&#259; vrei s&#259; sus&#539;ii misiunea newsletter-ului, f&#259;-&#539;i un abonament pl&#259;tit.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h2><br><strong>Cum po&#539;i s&#259; faci mamografie gratuit</strong></h2><p>La &#238;nceputul anului am scris <a href="/__u/open.substack.com/pub/sorana/p/cum-sa-ti-depistezi-riscul-de-cancer?r=8k6pm&amp;utm_campaign=post&amp;utm_medium=web&amp;showWelcomeOnShare=true">despre screeningul</a> pentru cancerul de s&#226;n, pentru care nu avem un program na&#539;ional organizat, dar avem investiga&#539;ii decontate (ecografie, mamografie 2D &#8211; pentru ambii s&#226;ni!) &#537;i pentru femeile asigurate, <em>&#537;i neasigurate</em>, astfel:</p><p><strong>&#206;n pachetul de Preven&#539;ie</strong>, <em>doar dac&#259; nu ai simptome</em> (vezi detalii &#238;n <a href="https://cnas.ro/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Ghidul-asiguratului-editia-3.pdf">Ghidul Asiguratului</a>, pagina 12):</p><blockquote><ul><li><p>&#537;i ecografie, &#537;i mamografie anual, pentru femeile de 18-49 de ani cu risc &#238;nalt de a face cancer de s&#226;n</p></li><li><p>doar mamografie o dat&#259; la 2 ani, pentru femeile de 50-69 de ani.</p></li></ul></blockquote><p><strong>&#206;n pachetul de investiga&#539;ii pentru Suspiciune Oncologic&#259;</strong> (pe bilet trebuie marcat &#8222;SO&#8221;) &#8211; <em>dac&#259; medicul de familie sau specialistul depisteaz&#259; ni&#537;te semne </em>care ar putea indica un cancer, &#238;&#539;i d&#259; bilet de trimitere pentru spital, unde ai dreptul s&#259; faci toate investiga&#539;iile necesare &#537;i s&#259; ai un diagnostic <a href="https://www.politicidesanatate.ro/pachete-standardizate-pentru-diagnosticul-oncologic-tipuri-de-cancere-incluse-si-servicii-oferite-de-medici/">&#238;n maximum 28 de zile</a>.</p><p><strong>Dac&#259; ai simptome &#537;i e&#537;ti asigurat&#259;</strong>, indiferent de v&#226;rst&#259;, medicul de familie &#238;&#539;i d&#259; trimitere c&#259;tre specialist (oncolog, chirurg, ginecolog &#8211; to&#539;i cu competen&#539;&#259; &#238;n senologie imagistic&#259;), care decide dac&#259; ai nevoie de ecografie &#537;i/sau mamografie, cu/f&#259;r&#259; biopsie.</p><h3><strong>Esen&#539;ial:</strong></h3><ul><li><p>Investiga&#539;iile din pachetele de Preven&#539;ie &#537;i Suspiciune Oncologic&#259; se fac <a href="https://cnas.ro/2025/01/23/informare-analizele-si-investigatiile-medicale-decontate-peste-valoarea-de-contract/">peste plafon</a>, adic&#259; indiferent dac&#259; mai sunt sau nu &#8222;bani de la Cas&#259;&#8221; &#238;n luna respectiv&#259;. Doar c&#259; &#8211; &#537;i asta e marea ironie a sistemului rom&#226;nesc &#8211; nu prea ai unde s&#259; faci mamografia de preven&#539;ie (&#238;&#539;i spun mai jos cum afli unde se fac). </p></li><li><p>&#9888;&#65039; Pentru mamografie <strong>ai nevoie de recomandare</strong> scris&#259; de la medicul de familie/ginecolog/oncolog &#8211; fie c&#259; e un bilet de trimitere ca s&#259; faci gratuit, fie c&#259; e o scrisoare medical&#259; simpl&#259;, dac&#259; medicul nu e &#238;n contract cu Casa, nu te &#238;ncadrezi la Preven&#539;ie sau Suspiciune Oncologic&#259; sau dac&#259; vrei s&#259; faci cu plat&#259;. Dar nu po&#539;i intra pe u&#537;a clinicii s&#259; ceri pur &#537;i simplu o mamografie.</p></li><li><p>O ecografie de s&#226;n po&#539;i face &#537;i f&#259;r&#259; trimitere.</p></li></ul><p><strong>Men&#539;iune:</strong> &#537;i mamografia cu tomozintez&#259; (a&#537;a numita &#8222;3D&#8221;) este gratuit&#259;, dar numai dac&#259; ai deja un diagnostic de cancer de s&#226;n.</p><p><em>De &#537;tiut: exist&#259; ni&#537;te <a href="https://cancer-screening-and-care.jrc.ec.europa.eu/en/ecibc/european-breast-cancer-guidelines?topic=84&amp;usertype=59&amp;filter_11=181&amp;updatef2=0">standarde europene</a> pentru programe de screening organizate la nivelul unei &#539;&#259;ri, care spun c&#259; mamografia ar trebui s&#259; &#238;nceap&#259; la 45 de ani. &#538;&#259;rile UE sunt &#238;ns&#259; libere s&#259; aleag&#259; dac&#259; urc&#259; sau coboar&#259; acest interval, &#238;n func&#539;ie de popula&#539;ie &#537;i capacitatea de screening &#537;i diagnostic. La noi, pentru femeile asimptomatice &#537;i f&#259;r&#259; risc &#238;nalt, se face de la 50 de ani.</em></p><p><em>La nivel individual &#238;ns&#259;, cred c&#259; ai auzit &#537;i tu c&#259; mul&#539;i medici recomand&#259; s&#259; &#238;ncepi mamografiile la 40 de ani. &#536;tiu, e confuzant. Ce vreau s&#259; spun e s&#259; vorbe&#537;te cu medicul de familie sau ginecolog despre investiga&#539;ia cea mai potrivit&#259; pentru tine, &#238;n func&#539;ie de v&#226;rst&#259;, starea de s&#259;n&#259;tate &#537;i istoricul familial (dac&#259; mama sau bunica ta au avut cancer de s&#226;n, riscul t&#259;u e mai mare dec&#226;t al popula&#539;iei obi&#537;nuite).</em></p><h2><strong><br>Unde faci o mamografie gratuit?</strong></h2><p><a href="https://fabc.ro">Federa&#539;ia Asocia&#539;iilor Bolnavilor de Cancer</a> (FABC) a lansat s&#259;pt&#259;m&#226;na trecut&#259; <strong><a href="https://app.imedico.ro/#/harta-mamografii">iMedico</a></strong>, o aplica&#539;ie &#238;n care po&#539;i vedea spitalele &#537;i clinicile private unde po&#539;i face mamografie gratuit, &#238;n fiecare jude&#539;. Nu po&#539;i vedea, din p&#259;cate, &#537;i dac&#259; mai au fonduri &#238;n luna respectiv&#259; (CNAS n-a g&#259;sit &#238;nc&#259; un sistem prin care s&#259; transparentizeze aceast&#259; informa&#539;ie), dar prime&#537;ti num&#259;rul de telefon, cu apelare direct din aplica&#539;ie, &#537;i adresa, care &#539;i se deschide &#238;n Maps.</p><blockquote><p>&#536;tiu c&#259; pare simplu &#8211; &#537;i e, din punct de vedere tehnic (au fost vreo 200 de ore de munc&#259; &#537;i a costat c&#226;teva mii de euro) &#8211;, dar nici m&#259;car aceste informa&#539;ii nu erau publice p&#226;n&#259; acum. Iar a trebuit s&#259; fac&#259; o organiza&#539;ie de pacien&#539;i, cu finan&#539;are din pharma, treaba statului.</p></blockquote><p>Ce admir la aceast&#259; ini&#539;iativ&#259; e c&#259; FABC nu a luat de bun excel-ul publicat de vicepre&#537;edinta CNAS &#238;n prim&#259;var&#259; (&#238;n premier&#259;, &#537;i nu pe site-ul CNAS, nici m&#259;car pe pagina de Facebook), care cuprindea aceste clinici, ci a sunat la toate ca s&#259; verifice.</p><p>A&#537;a a aflat c&#259; &#238;n 2024, &#238;n cinci jude&#355;e (C&#259;l&#259;ra&#351;i, Giurgiu, Ialomi&#355;a, V&#226;lcea, Vrancea) nu s-a f&#259;cut nicio mamografie sau ecografie mamar&#259; gratuit, prin Cas&#259;, ceea ce arat&#259; c&#259; nu sunt furnizori &#238;n contract (din varii motive: uneori nu exist&#259; mamograf, alteori nu exist&#259; medic care s&#259; le interpreteze sau, pur &#537;i simplu, &#8222;priva&#539;ii&#8221; nu &#8222;au cump&#259;rat&#8221; acest serviciu de la Cas&#259;). </p><div 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/__u/sorana.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/sorana.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/sorana.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/sorana.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa522e9b7-5c0a-4de6-a45b-2277d06c3ca6_907x700.heic 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 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Sursa: FABC</figcaption></figure></div><p>&#206;n altele &#8211; de&#537;i ap&#259;rea c&#226;te un furnizor &#8211;, aflau c&#259;, de fapt, nu lucreaz&#259; cu Casa, culmin&#226;nd cu Br&#259;ila, unde pe list&#259; exist&#259; un cabinet individual, dar care nu e de g&#259;sit pe net/ la telefon.</p><p>Acum, pentru aplica&#539;ie, FABC va primi de la CNAS lista furnizorilor ori de c&#226;te ori se actualizeaz&#259; &#537;i va continua s&#259; ofere mentenan&#539;&#259; aplica&#539;iei. </p><p></p><div class="image-gallery-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;gallery&quot;:{&quot;images&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/29249b58-da68-4395-b95d-6a17f432a46f_1206x1206.jpeg&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/78966be7-5a94-4625-a39e-15ea01e9a83a_1206x1206.jpeg&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/c5adc3c9-ca6c-47be-a70d-078a6973655b_1161x1161.jpeg&quot;}],&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;A&#537;a arat&#259; interfa&#539;a aplica&#539;iei.&quot;,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;staticGalleryImage&quot;:{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/4b8af53a-b847-4b08-a406-0c74b3686473_1456x474.png&quot;}},&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true}"></div><p><br>Din p&#259;cate, dup&#259; doar o s&#259;pt&#259;m&#226;n&#259; de func&#539;ionare, FABC a primit feedback de la femeile care au &#238;ncercat s&#259; se programeze c&#259; mul&#539;i furnizori pun piedici: fie nu fac program&#259;ri prin telefon, fie au oprit pur &#537;i simplu program&#259;rile pentru c&#259; nu fac fa&#539;&#259;. </p><blockquote><p>Po&#539;i desc&#259;rca aplica&#539;ia din Google Play, <a href="https://apps.apple.com/us/app/imedico/id6752703121">Apple Store</a> sau <a href="https://app.imedico.ro/#/harta-mamografii">po&#539;i merge pe site</a> (apas&#259; mereu pe &#8222;Pasul urm&#259;tor&#8221;).</p></blockquote><p><strong>Util: dac&#259; g&#259;se&#537;ti un spital sau o clinic&#259; care apar &#238;n contract cu Casa, dar refuz&#259; s&#259; &#238;&#539;i fac&#259; o mamografie pe bilet de Preven&#539;ie sau Suspiciune Oncologic&#259; (care se fac peste plafon), <a href="https://cnas.ro/raporteaza-un-furnizor/">sesizeaz&#259; aici</a>.<br><br>&#9888;&#65039; Ecografii mamare gratuite &#537;i consulta&#539;ie pentru femeile neasigurate &#537;i cu venituri sub 3.500 de lei/lun&#259; </strong>se pot face &#238;n Bucure&#537;ti, la <a href="https://www.fundatiainovatiisociale.ro/policlinica-baba-novac">Policlinica Social&#259; Baba Novac</a>.<strong> </strong>Ca s&#259; verifice c&#259; nu e&#537;ti asigurat&#259;, <a href="https://siui.casan.ro/asigurati/">folosesc site-ul Casei</a>, iar ca s&#259; ar&#259;&#539;i tu c&#259; ai venituri sub acest prag &#238;&#539;i trebuie o adeverin&#539;&#259; de la ANAF sau de la locul de munc&#259;. Locurile sunt limitate, dar &#238;n acest moment exist&#259; disponibilitate. Ini&#539;iativa face parte din <a href="https://ancora.pescurt.org">Ancora - Al&#259;turi de tine</a>, un program de preven&#539;ie &#537;i depistare precoce a cancerului de s&#226;n, al Asocia&#539;iei Pe Scurt.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Am 100 de abona&#539;i care sprijin&#259; financiar newsletter-ul. Ai vrea s&#259; fii al 101-lea? Dac&#259; e&#537;ti deja, &#238;&#539;i mul&#539;umesc.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p> </p><h2><strong>Dou&#259; clarific&#259;ri de la CNAS </strong></h2><p>Dup&#259; ultimele edi&#539;ii, &#238;n care am vorbit despre schimb&#259;rile din sistemul de asigur&#259;ri (<a href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/cum-te-afecteaza-reducerile-din-sanatate?r=8k6pm">aici</a> &#537;i <a href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/ce-sunt-programele-nationale-de-sanatate?r=8k6pm">aici</a>), am cerut ni&#537;te clarific&#259;ri de la CNAS, respectiv:</p><ul><li><p>Dac&#259; e&#537;ti neasigurat &#537;i nu ai venituri, dar ai fost &#238;ncadrat &#238;ntr-un Program Na&#539;ional de S&#259;n&#259;tate (ai diabet, o boal&#259; rar&#259;, neurologic&#259;, insuficien&#539;&#259; hepatic&#259; &#8211; vezi lista la pagina 42 din Ghid), devii automat asigurat, dar <strong>trebuie Tu s&#259; ceri o adeverin&#539;&#259;</strong> de la medicul curant, care atest&#259; &#238;nscrierea &#238;n Program &#537;i s-o duci / s-o trimi&#539;i la Casa Jude&#539;ean&#259; de S&#259;n&#259;tate. Informa&#539;ia nu se transmite automat.</p></li><li><p>Acela&#537;i lucru dac&#259; ai primit un certificat de handicap &#8211; tu trebuie s&#259; duci / trimi&#539;i o copie la Cas&#259;.</p></li><li><p>De acum, Casele Jude&#539;ene de S&#259;n&#259;tate au o zi pe s&#259;pt&#259;m&#226;n&#259; program cu publicul p&#226;n&#259; la 18, tocmai ca s&#259; po&#539;i depune astfel de adeverin&#539;e &#8211; mergi pe site, la Contact/Program de lucru cu publicul.</p></li></ul><div><hr></div><h2><strong>Resurse </strong></h2><p><strong><a href="https://oncorcp.codeoftalent.com/registration/ONCO-7546?fbclid=IwY2xjawNfT9dleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETF5czJiQVpZeDdpMm1pd3duAR4g1uZ1-UA1b1BmzVu0qnqD5_del7KdbzWP-2nr7YDAfZwNC2Cb9RZUGQa4hg_aem_9MuInGDUWaZCTM3uvCTdOA">OncoRCP</a>, </strong>o platform&#259; educa&#539;ional&#259; pentru pacien&#539;ii cu cancer, care explic&#259; traseul (medical &#537;i emo&#539;ional) &#537;i r&#259;spunde unor &#238;ntreb&#259;ri pe care ace&#537;tia nu &#537;i le pun uneori, pentru c&#259; nu se g&#226;ndesc &#238;nc&#259; la ele, a explicat Andi C&#226;rlan, navigator de pacien&#539;i &#537;i el &#238;nsu&#537;i pacient cu cancer: De ce e nevoie de un kinetoterapeut &#238;n timpul chimioterapiei? sau Ce alte consulturi medicale ar trebui s&#259; faci, odat&#259; ce ai primit diagnosticul?. (C&#226;nd v&#259; face&#539;i cont, ignora&#539;i codul acela de pe <a href="https://oncorcp.codeoftalent.com/registration/ONCO-7546?fbclid=IwY2xjawNfT9dleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETF5czJiQVpZeDdpMm1pd3duAR4g1uZ1-UA1b1BmzVu0qnqD5_del7KdbzWP-2nr7YDAfZwNC2Cb9RZUGQa4hg_aem_9MuInGDUWaZCTM3uvCTdOA">homepage</a>). Andi a filmat clipurile video &#238;n timpul propriului tratament cu chimioterapie.</p><p><strong><a href="https://compasulpacientului.ro/">C.O.M.P.A.S.</a> </strong>Andi este &#537;i pre&#537;edintele nou-&#238;nfiin&#539;ate asocia&#539;ii C.O.M.P.A.S., care &#238;&#537;i propune integrarea navigatorilor de pacien&#539;i &#238;n sistemul medical din Rom&#226;nia. (Despre ce rol au ace&#537;tia <a href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/navigatorii-de-pacienti-potentiala?r=8k6pm">am scris mai demult aici</a>, iar cu Andi vom vorbi &#238;ntr-o edi&#539;ie viitoare.) Ca s&#259; primeasc&#259; gratuit ajutorul unui navigator, o persoan&#259; diagnosticat&#259; cu cancer trebuie s&#259; contacteze proiectul <a href="https://www.fundatiametropolis.ro/navicare/?fbclid=IwY2xjawNvDedleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETF5czJiQVpZeDdpMm1pd3duAR59LBCrIuQtngnxrgd_dVl6rMMgVWFFv_7IjULHSSDHLsr5i6QcvBKxghj46A_aem_Al81CBS5ibRKJ7Ap4Qvn-Q">Navicare</a>. &#206;n cur&#226;nd, C.O.M.P.A.S. va publica &#537;i un registru al navigatorilor din Rom&#226;nia &#537;i o cerere de navigare, tot gratuit, pe site-ul propriu, deci &#539;ine&#539;i-l aproape.</p><p><strong><a href="https://assmb.ro/stirea/915">Unde arunci medicamentele expirate &#238;n Bucure&#537;ti</a>. </strong>De ceva timp, nu mai po&#539;i duce medicamentele expirate la farmacie, ci doar la spitale, &#238;ntr-un un anumit program. <a href="https://assmb.ro/stirea/915">Vezi aici lista</a> pentru Bucure&#537;ti (nu sunt toate spitalele, dar majoritatea da).</p><p><strong><a href="https://www.mealplanning.ro/p/un-template-de-meniu-ieftin-si-bun">Meniu ieftin &#537;i corect, construit cu un medic &#238;n nutri&#539;ie.</a> </strong>Fosta mea coleg&#259; de la DoR, Georgiana Ilie, are de c&#226;&#539;iva ani <a href="https://www.mealplanning.ro">un newsletter s&#259;pt&#259;m&#226;nal</a> care te ajut&#259; s&#259;-&#539;i faci meniul &#238;n avans pe o s&#259;pt&#259;m&#226;n&#259; &#537;i s&#259; te &#238;ncadrezi &#238;ntr-un buget rezonabil. <a href="https://www.mealplanning.ro/p/un-template-de-meniu-ieftin-si-bun">Aici</a> a creat unul &#238;n parteneriat cu un medic &#238;n diabet &#537;i nutri&#539;ie, adaptat schimb&#259;rilor de sezon &#537;i de pre&#539;uri.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Aboneaz&#259;-te ca s&#259; prime&#537;ti &#238;n fiecare lun&#259; astfel de informa&#539;ii.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><div><hr></div><h2>Recomand&#259;ri + bilete cadou</h2><p><strong><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4GvhFBUDNg">Prea S&#259;rac</a></strong>. E o serie audio de 6 episoade, despre ce &#238;nseamn&#259; s&#259; tr&#259;ie&#537;ti cu lipsuri &#537;i despre impactul &#537;i ru&#537;inea care vin odat&#259; cu asta. E f&#259;cut de c&#226;&#539;iva dintre fo&#537;tii mei colegi de la DoR, iar gazda este Andreea V&#238;lcu, de la a c&#259;rei <a href="https://www.dor.ro/sa-fii-sarac-e-o-rusine/">poveste personal&#259;</a> a pornit totul &#8211; &#537;i garantez c&#259;, Andreea fiind Andreea, e mai amuzant dec&#226;t &#539;i-ai putea imagina, dar asta nu &#238;nseamn&#259; c&#259; nu te r&#226;c&#226;ie pe interior. Am ascultat primul episod la un loc cu vreo 80 de oameni, care au aplaudat peste 1 minut la final. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4GvhFBUDNg">Aici e primul episod</a> (&#238;l g&#259;se&#537;ti &#537;i &#238;n orice aplica&#539;ie de podcasting).</p><p><strong><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCjWH5Rndto">Politic&#259; la minut</a>, </strong>cu R&#259;zvan Petri &#537;i Vlad Adamescu, doi politologi tineri <a href="https://www.instagram.com/politicalaminut/">care au explicat</a> mai bine ca nimeni al&#539;ii ce ni s-a &#238;nt&#226;mplat (politico-electoral-social) &#238;n ultimul an. Podcastul e g&#259;zduit de Recorder, iar primul episod r&#259;spunde la &#238;ntrebarea: Sunt muncitorii str&#259;ini un pericol pentru Rom&#226;nia? P.S. e un podcast cu bibliografie la final, <em>just sayin</em>&#8217;.</p><p><strong><a href="https://eventbook.ro/other/bilete-oamenii-dreptatii-2025-bucuresti">Oamenii Drept&#259;&#539;ii</a></strong>, 15 noiembrie, Bucure&#537;ti. E un spectacol de live storytelling pe care &#238;l recomand cu dou&#259; m&#226;ini &#537;i care are loc doar o dat&#259; pe an. Prin puterea pove&#537;tilor personale &#537;i a momentelor artistice diferite (teatru, muzic&#259; live), pe scen&#259; se construiesc spa&#539;ii de conversa&#539;ie &#537;i de dialog interior, pe subiecte precum justi&#539;ie, etic&#259;, migran&#539;i, inegalitate social&#259;, siguran&#539;a femeilor, dreptul la educa&#539;ie &#537;i altele. <a href="https://eventbook.ro/other/bilete-oamenii-dreptatii-2025-bucuresti">Bilete sunt aici</a>.</p><blockquote><p><em>Am &#537;i eu dou&#259; bilete de dat cadou, primilor doi care dau reply la acest mail &#537;i &#238;mi recomand&#259;, la r&#226;ndul lor, un film, o carte sau un spectacol.</em></p></blockquote><p><strong><a href="/__u/www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;source=web&amp;rct=j&amp;opi=89978449&amp;url=https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D_r_CtqC5-18&amp;ved=2ahUKEwjawb6K3auQAxXN_rsIHSY6B6UQtwJ6BAgyEAI&amp;usg=AOvVaw2WiLmnAPXcYc-ynsoJYC5t">TATA</a></strong>, pe HBO Max &#537;i &#238;n c&#226;teva cinematografe din &#539;ar&#259; (&#238;nc&#259;). Un documentar despre o jurnalist&#259; din Moldova, &#238;nstr&#259;inat&#259; de tat&#259;l ei plecat la munc&#259; &#238;n Italia, care descoper&#259; c&#259; acesta era abuzat de angajatori. &#206;ncearc&#259; s&#259;-l ajute, iar asta redeschide r&#259;nile trecutului, marcat de violen&#539;&#259; acas&#259; &#8211; e povestea familiei ei, dar &#537;i a unei &#238;ntregi genera&#539;ii.</p><p>Mul&#539;umesc, ne citim luna viitoare. Nu uita&#539;i de biletele la Oamenii Drept&#259;&#539;ii!</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Cele mai importante informații din ultimul an]]></title><description><![CDATA[&#537;i o aniversare]]></description><link>https://sorana.substack.com/p/cele-mai-importante-informatii-din</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://sorana.substack.com/p/cele-mai-importante-informatii-din</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Sorana Stănescu]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2025 04:02:56 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-HWT!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0b33a122-5f2f-4b64-9d7e-f8d46ff30b4e_5869x3913.heic" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salut!</p><p>Bine te-am g&#259;sit la aniversarea de trei ani a Foii de observa&#539;ie. &#8222;Nu &#537;tiu cum, nu &#537;tiu pe unde&#8221; s-au dus, vorba c&#226;ntecului, dar m&#259; bucur. C&#226;nd am &#238;nceput, nu mi-am propus o durat&#259; de via&#539;&#259; &#537;i nici obiective m&#259;surabile (&#537;tiu, poate ar fi trebuit, ve&#539;i spune unii). Nu-mi imaginam ce poate deveni Foaia de observa&#539;ie, la c&#226;&#539;i oameni va ajunge &#537;i cu ce folos.</p><p>&#206;n timpul &#259;sta, mul&#539;i cititori mi-au spus c&#259;, datorit&#259; newsletter-ului, au reu&#537;it s&#259;-&#537;i fac&#259; RMN-uri f&#259;r&#259; plat&#259;, analize gratuit prin programul de Preven&#539;ie, au mers la psiholog sau au aflat informa&#539;ii vitale pentru un p&#259;rinte cu cancer. Mi-au scris &#537;i medici tineri, care au aflat despre schimb&#259;ri birocratice care &#238;i afecteaz&#259; &#238;n munca de zi cu zi. </p><p>Cea mai mare mul&#539;umire e un &#8222;Mul&#539;umesc, nu &#537;tiam c&#259;&#8230;&#8221;.</p><p>C&#226;nd scriu asta, suntem 9.751 de abona&#539;i, dintre care 92 &#8211; pl&#259;titori. Cu vreo 20 mai mult dec&#226;t luna trecut&#259;, c&#226;nd v-am spus c&#259; mi-a&#537; dori s&#259; ajung la 100 la aceast&#259; aniversare. V&#259; mul&#539;umesc tuturor care v-a&#539;i f&#259;cut un abonament pl&#259;tit &#8211; nu sunt doar bani, e &#238;ncrederea pe care simt c&#259; mi-o acorda&#539;i, ca s&#259; merg &#238;nainte. </p><p>92 e un num&#259;r &#238;ncurajator, dar &#537;tiu c&#259; nu e b&#259;tut &#238;n cuie &#8211; sunt &#537;i cititori care nu-&#537;i prelungesc abonamentul sau care r&#259;m&#226;n f&#259;r&#259; bani pe cardul pe care l-au setat pentru plat&#259;. E &#8222;o situa&#539;ia &#238;n dinamic&#259;&#8221;, dup&#259; cum ar spune Raed Arafat.</p><p>Edi&#539;ia asta facem un pic de recapitulare, pentru c&#259; &#537;i eu simt nevoia s&#259; pun la un loc cele mai importante informa&#539;ii utilitare din ultimul an, iar luna viitoare revenim &#8222;la normal&#8221;.</p><p>&#206;n ultimul an am scris despre:</p><ul><li><p><a href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/patru-lucruri-pe-care-nu-le-stiai">Ce trebuie s&#259; faci dac&#259; vrei s&#259; &#238;&#539;i schimbi medicul de familie</a> (deruleaz&#259; p&#226;n&#259; la final)</p></li><li><p><a href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/analize-si-ecografii-gratuite-pentru">Ce drepturi au femeile gravide</a></p></li><li><p><a href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/cum-sa-ti-depistezi-riscul-de-cancer">Cum s&#259;-&#539;i depistezi riscul de cancer</a></p></li><li><p><a href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/nou-lista-psihologilor-care-lucreaza">Lista spitalelor care au psiholog &#537;i a clinicilor de psihologie</a> care lucreaz&#259; cu Casa  (aten&#539;ie: datele sunt valabile la 31 ianuarie, &#238;ntre timp e posibil s&#259; mai fi ap&#259;rut sau disp&#259;rut nume de pe list&#259;)</p></li><li><p><a href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/diferenta-dintre-un-psiholog-si-un">Diferen&#539;ele dintre un psiholog &#537;i un psihoterapeut</a></p></li><li><p><a href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/si-adultii-fac-vaccinuri">Vaccinuri pentru adul&#539;i &#537;i nu numai</a></p></li><li><p><a href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/avem-doar-13-specialisti-pentru-politicile">Ce &#238;nseamn&#259; s&#259; construie&#537;ti programe de screening &#238;n Rom&#226;nia</a> </p></li><li><p><a href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/cum-te-afecteaza-reducerile-din-sanatate">Cum te afecteaz&#259; m&#259;surile de austeritate impuse la 1 august &#537;i de ce sistemul de s&#259;n&#259;tate e nesustenabil</a></p></li><li><p><a href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/ce-sunt-programele-nationale-de-sanatate">Ce se &#238;nt&#226;mpl&#259; cu persoanele neasigurate</a> din Programele Na&#539;ionale de S&#259;n&#259;tate</p></li></ul><div class="captioned-button-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/p/cele-mai-importante-informatii-din?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="CaptionedButtonToDOM"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Dac&#259; &#537;tii pe cineva c&#259;ruia i-ar fi de folos aceste informa&#539;ii, trimite-i articolul.</p></div><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/p/cele-mai-importante-informatii-din?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/cele-mai-importante-informatii-din?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p></div><p></p><h2><strong>&#536;i ni&#537;te lucruri punctuale pe care le-am aflat sau clarificat &#238;mpreun&#259;</strong></h2><h3><strong><a href="/__u/open.substack.com/pub/sorana/p/patru-lucruri-pe-care-nu-le-stiai?r=8k6pm&amp;utm_campaign=post&amp;utm_medium=web&amp;showWelcomeOnShare=false">Despre vaccinul gripal</a>:</strong></h3><ol><li><p>&#536;i unii adul&#539;i &#238;l pot cump&#259;ra la pre&#539; redus (<a href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/patru-lucruri-pe-care-nu-le-stiai">vezi &#238;n articol cine</a>).</p></li><li><p>Ob&#539;ii re&#539;eta compensat&#259; nu doar de la medicul de familie, ci de la orice medic &#238;n contract cu Casa de Asigur&#259;ri.</p></li><li><p>Anul trecut puteai s&#259; te vaccinezi &#537;i &#238;n unele farmacii &#8211; de v&#259;zut dac&#259; va fi la fel &#537;i acum.</p></li><li><p>Exist&#259; un vaccin mai puternic, doar pentru cei de peste 60 de ani. <a href="https://www.formaremedicala.ro/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/Material-medici-vaccinarea-antigripala-diferentiata-SNMF.pdf">Mai multe detalii aici.</a></p></li></ol><h3><br><strong><a href="/__u/open.substack.com/pub/sorana/p/analize-si-ecografii-gratuite-pentru?r=8k6pm&amp;utm_campaign=post&amp;utm_medium=web&amp;showWelcomeOnShare=false">O gravid&#259;</a>:</strong></h3><ol><li><p>E automat asigurat&#259;, chiar dac&#259; nu pl&#259;te&#537;te contribu&#539;ia la s&#259;n&#259;tate (CASS).</p></li><li><p>Are dreptul la o serie de consulta&#539;ii &#537;i investiga&#539;ii gratuite (de s&#226;nge, ecografii), unele acordate de medicul de familie, altele &#8211; de obstetrician.</p></li><li><p>Poate face analize &#537;i &#8222;dac&#259; s-a terminat plafonul&#8221;.</p></li><li><p>Nu &#238;i trebuie bilet de trimitere pentru consulta&#539;ia trimestrial&#259; la ginecolog &#537;i pentru investiga&#539;ii de monitorizare a sarcinii &#238;n regim de internare de zi, <em>&#238;n ambulatoriu.</em></p></li><li><p>Se poate duce la orice maternitate, clinic&#259; sau cabinet individual de obstetric&#259;-ginecologie &#238;n contract cu Casa, indiferent unde locuie&#537;te.</p></li></ol><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-HWT!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0b33a122-5f2f-4b64-9d7e-f8d46ff30b4e_5869x3913.heic" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-HWT!, /__u/sorana.substack.com/w_424, /__u/sorana.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/sorana.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/sorana.substack.com/q_auto:good, 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/__u/sorana.substack.com/w_1456, /__u/sorana.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/sorana.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/sorana.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/sorana.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0b33a122-5f2f-4b64-9d7e-f8d46ff30b4e_5869x3913.heic 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Luni am avut ocazia s&#259; vorbesc despre 3 ani de Foaia de observa&#539;ie &#238;n cadrul evenimentului <em>Cum am f&#259;cut</em>, al Asocia&#539;iei Media DOR. Foto: Tudor Pan&#259; </figcaption></figure></div><h3><br><strong><a href="/__u/open.substack.com/pub/sorana/p/cum-sa-ti-depistezi-riscul-de-cancer?r=8k6pm&amp;utm_campaign=post&amp;utm_medium=web&amp;showWelcomeOnShare=false">Screening cancer</a>:</strong></h3><ol><li><p>Investiga&#539;ia de screening pentru cancerul de s&#226;n este mamografia &#537;i se face o dat&#259; la 2 ani, &#238;ntre 50 &#537;i 69 de ani, gratuit &#537;i peste plafon, cu bilete de trimitere pe Preven&#539;ie. (&#206;n afara acestor v&#226;rste, o faci cu plat&#259; sau cu bilet de trimitere, dac&#259; sunt fonduri &#238;n luna respectiv&#259;, adic&#259; nu ai prioritate.)</p></li><li><p>Investiga&#539;ia de screening pentru cancerul de col este testarea HPV. Trebuie s&#259; o fac&#259; femeile &#238;ntre 25 &#537;i 64 de ani, o dat&#259; la cinci ani, &#238;mpreun&#259; cu un test Babe&#537;-Papanicolau.</p></li><li><p>Pentru cancerul de colon, femeile &#351;i b&#259;rba&#539;ii &#238;ntre 50 &#537;i 74 de ani trebuie s&#259; fac&#259; testul FIT o dat&#259; la doi ani (e un test din scaun care depisteaz&#259; eventuale s&#226;nger&#259;ri).</p></li><li><p>Pentru cancerul de prostat&#259; exist&#259; <a href="https://www.scumc.ro/psa-antigen-specific-prostatic/">PSA</a>-ul, un test foarte simplu &#537;i ieftin, din s&#226;nge, pe care b&#259;rba&#539;ii asimptomatici de peste 50 de ani &#238;l pot face decontat o dat&#259; la trei ani ca parte a pachetului de analize preven&#539;ie (vezi <a href="https://cnas.ro/ghidul-asiguratului/">Ghidul Asiguratului, pag. 15</a>).</p></li></ol><h3><br><a href="/__u/open.substack.com/pub/sorana/p/diferenta-dintre-un-psiholog-si-un?r=8k6pm&amp;utm_campaign=post&amp;utm_medium=web&amp;showWelcomeOnShare=false">(C&#226;teva) Diferen&#539;e dintre un psiholog &#537;i un psihoterapeut</a>:</h3><ol><li><p>Un absolvent de Psihologie nu e automat psiholog, ci doar... absolvent de Psihologie.</p></li><li><p>Un psiholog nu are voie, legal, s&#259; fac&#259; psihoterapie, dac&#259; nu a f&#259;cut (sau e &#238;n curs de a face) o &#537;coal&#259; de formare &#238;n psihoterapie. Deci un psiholog nu e automat &#537;i psihoterapeut.</p></li><li><p>Psihologii &#537;i psihoterapeu&#539;ii au competen&#539;e diferite.</p></li><li><p>C&#226;nd intri &#238;ntr-o rela&#539;ie terapeutic&#259;, <strong>psihologul sau psihoterapeutul este obligat s&#259; &#238;&#539;i dea un contract de prest&#259;ri servicii psihologice &#238;n care specific&#259; ce anume ofer&#259;</strong> &#537;i num&#259;rul de &#537;edin&#539;e; un acord de consim&#539;&#259;m&#226;nt informat (ca la medic), iar dup&#259; fiecare sesiune trebuie s&#259; prime&#537;ti factur&#259;.</p></li><li><p>Ca s&#259; verifici dac&#259; psihologul sau psihoterapeutul la care vrei s&#259; mergi chiar e ceea ce pretinde, du-te pe site-ul CoPsI / Registre / Registrul Unic al Psihologilor (R.U.P.) / R.U.P. Partea I &#8211; atestate de liber&#259; practic&#259; &#537;i descarc&#259; fi&#537;ierul.</p></li><li><p>Consilierul pentru dezvoltare personal&#259; e specialist &#238;n resurse umane, nu &#238;n s&#259;n&#259;tate mintal&#259;.</p></li></ol><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Articolele din Foaia de observa&#539;ie sunt &#537;i vor r&#259;m&#226;ne gratuite &#537;i accesibile oricui, dar un abonament pl&#259;tit m&#259; ajut&#259; s&#259; &#238;i acord mai mult timp &#238;n fiecare lun&#259;.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h3><a href="/__u/open.substack.com/pub/sorana/p/si-adultii-fac-vaccinuri?r=8k6pm&amp;utm_campaign=post&amp;utm_medium=web&amp;showWelcomeOnShare=false">Vaccinare</a>:</h3><ol><li><p>Nu e obligatorie &#238;n Rom&#226;nia &#8211; exist&#259; doar scheme recomandate. Dar este de ne-negociat, din punctul meu de vedere.</p></li><li><p>E un proces pe tot parcursul vie&#539;ii &#8211; pentru unele vaccinuri e nevoie de rapeluri, iar altele au ap&#259;rut recent, deci sigur nu le-am f&#259;cut &#238;n copil&#259;rie.</p></li><li><p>Vaccinurile sunt gratuite pentru copii &#537;i compensate sau gratuite pentru unii adul&#539;i din grupe de risc. Rom&#226;nia are <a href="https://cnas.ro/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/Tip-de-vaccin.pdf">o schem&#259; chiar generoas&#259; de compensare</a>.</p></li><li><p>Chiar dac&#259; e&#537;ti un adult s&#259;n&#259;tos, e bine s&#259; reiei ni&#537;te vaccinuri, pentru c&#259; imunitatea scade odat&#259; cu v&#226;rsta.</p></li><li><p>Vaccinul nu protejeaz&#259; doar &#238;mpotriva bolii imediate, ci &#537;i a poten&#539;ialelor complica&#539;ii care pot ap&#259;rea &#238;n viitor.</p></li><li><p>Re&#539;et&#259; pentru un vaccin compensat sau gratuit po&#539;i lua de la orice medic &#238;n contract cu Casa, nu doar de la medicul t&#259;u de familie, iar de f&#259;cut &#8211; po&#539;i s&#259;-l faci la un medic vaccinator (medic de familie, epidemiolog, de boli infec&#539;ioase, pediatru sau orice alt medic care are atestat de vaccinologie). Nu, nu exist&#259; o list&#259;.</p></li></ol><h3><br><a href="/__u/open.substack.com/pub/sorana/p/cum-te-afecteaza-reducerile-din-sanatate?r=8k6pm&amp;utm_campaign=post&amp;utm_medium=web&amp;showWelcomeOnShare=false">C&#226;teva schimb&#259;ri de la 1 august</a>:</h3><ol><li><p>Dac&#259; au pensie mai mare de 3.000 de lei, pacien&#539;ii oncologici pensionari pl&#259;tesc 10% CASS pentru ce dep&#259;&#537;e&#537;te aceast&#259; valoare, ca orice al&#539;i pensionari.</p></li><li><p>Persoanele cu handicap pl&#259;tesc CASS dac&#259; au &#537;i alte venituri dec&#226;t indemniza&#539;ia de handicap sau dac&#259; pensia dep&#259;&#537;e&#537;te 3.000 de lei.</p></li><li><p>Dac&#259; ai avut o persoan&#259; co-asigurat&#259; &#238;n baza venitului t&#259;u, de la 1 august trebuie s&#259; pl&#259;te&#537;ti 2.430 lei/an CASS pentru ea. Trebuie tu s&#259; depui declara&#539;ia, s&#259; pl&#259;te&#537;ti &#537;i apoi s&#259; anun&#539;i Casa, nu a&#537;tepta s&#259; prime&#537;ti vreo &#238;n&#537;tiin&#539;are de la ANAF. Po&#539;i avea maximum trei persoane co-asigurate (so&#539;ul/so&#539;ia &#537;i p&#259;rin&#539;ii) &#537;i e obligatoriu ca ele s&#259; nu aib&#259; venituri. </p><div><hr></div></li></ol><p>&#536;i, la final, c&#226;teva lucruri bune pe care le-a f&#259;cut &#8222;statul&#8221;. Sigur sunt mai multe, dar astea mi s-au p&#259;rut evidente:</p><ul><li><p>De la 1 octombrie, <a href="https://lege5.ro/Gratuit/ge3tanjtgayta/ordonanta-nr-12-2025-pentru-modificarea-si-completarea-legii-nr-95-2006-privind-reforma-in-domeniul-sanatatii-precum-si-a-unor-acte-normative-in-domeniul-sanatatii">vaccinul HPV va fi gratuit</a> pentru fete &#537;i b&#259;ie&#539;i &#238;ntre 11 &#537;i 26 de ani, nu doar p&#226;n&#259; la 18. Femeile de 26-45 de ani pot s&#259; &#238;l cumpere compensat 50%. (Din nou, re&#539;et&#259; po&#539;i  lua de la orice medic &#238;n contract cu Casa, nu doar de la medicul de familie.)</p></li><li><p>Site-urile Caselor de S&#259;n&#259;tate au fost &#238;n sf&#226;r&#537;it actualizate &#537;i acum po&#539;i c&#259;uta furnizorii care lucreaz&#259; cu Casa din jude&#539;ul t&#259;u, &#238;n func&#539;ie de ceea ce cau&#539;i (analize/imagistic&#259;/stomatolog etc.) &#8211; pe homepage, mergi &#238;n dreapta, la Hart&#259; furnizori. Nu, nu afi&#537;eaz&#259; &#537;i dac&#259; mai sunt fonduri.</p></li><li><p>A extins programul ambulatoriilor p&#226;n&#259; la ora 20 (valabil din 8 septembrie, deci de v&#259;zut dac&#259; toat&#259; lumea aplic&#259;).</p></li><li><p>A mai inclus pe lista celor care pot merge <em>&#238;n ambulatoriu</em> f&#259;r&#259; bilet de la medicul de familie pe cei cu HIV/SIDA, hemofilie &#537;i talasemie. O serie de alte boli <a href="https://cnas.ro/2022/05/23/comunicat-ridicare-formularele-tipizate-utilizate-in-sistemul-de-asigurari-sociale-de-sanatate/">erau deja incluse</a>.</p></li></ul><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><div><hr></div><p>Foaia de observa&#539;ie e newsletterul meu, dar nu l-a&#537; putea face niciodat&#259; singur&#259;.</p><p>Vreau s&#259; le mul&#539;umesc c&#226;torva persoane care &#238;mi sunt surse constante: dr. Raluca Zoi&#539;anu, dr. Sandra Alexiu, dr. Carmen Ungurean, Larisa Mezinu-B&#259;lan, dr. Marius Ungureanu &#537;i tuturor celor care mi-au explicat, m-au corectat &#537;i mi-au dat &#238;ncrederea lor.</p><p>&#536;i le mul&#539;umesc fo&#537;tilor mei colegi de la DoR &#8211; periodic discut&#259;m despre jurnalismul f&#259;cut de unul singur &#537;i cum/dac&#259; l-am putea face &#8222;mai&#8221; &#238;mpreun&#259;. </p><p>&#536;i ei au c&#226;te un newsletter la care v&#259; recomand s&#259; v&#259; abona&#539;i, pentru perspective &#537;i informa&#539;ie pe care nu le ve&#539;i g&#259;si &#238;n alt&#259; parte: Cristian Lup&#537;a (<em><a href="https://draftfour.ghost.io/author/cristian-lupsa/">Draft Four</a></em>, despre jurnalism &#537;i dileme de via&#539;&#259; &#537;i de munc&#259;), Georgiana Ilie (<em><a href="https://www.mealplanning.ro">Meal Planning</a></em>, pentru super-re&#539;ete &#537;i ca s&#259;-&#539;i eficientizezi timpul &#537;i bugetul &#238;n buc&#259;t&#259;rie), Anca Iosif (<a href="/__u/remediu.substack.com/">Re:Mediu</a>, despre natur&#259; &#537;i natura uman&#259;), Oana Sandu (<a href="/__u/dincolodetacere.substack.com/">Dincolo de t&#259;cere</a>, pentru cea mai profund&#259; &#537;i analitic&#259; &#238;n&#539;elegere a violen&#539;ei domestice &#238;n Rom&#226;nia), Andreea Giuclea (<a href="/__u/povestidinsport.substack.com/">Pove&#537;ti din Sport</a>, despre sport &#537;i confruntarea cu tine &#238;nsu&#539;i), Vlad Dumitrescu (<em><a href="/__u/onlinebrew.substack.com/">Online Brew</a></em>, despre <em>internet culture</em>). </p><p>Nu &#238;n ultimul r&#226;nd, le mul&#539;umesc Carlei Lungu&#539;i &#537;i Andreei V&#238;lcu, care sunt mereu acolo s&#259; &#238;ncurajeze &#537;i s&#259; pun&#259; um&#259;rul, &#537;i prietenilor care au citit textele &#238;nainte de a le trimite, ca s&#259; nu-mi scape erori de logic&#259; sau de ortografie.</p><p>Mul&#539;umesc, pe luna viitoare!</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Ce sunt Programele Naționale de Sănătate]]></title><description><![CDATA[&#537;i alte explica&#539;ii despre t&#259;ieri &#537;i asigur&#259;ri]]></description><link>https://sorana.substack.com/p/ce-sunt-programele-nationale-de-sanatate</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://sorana.substack.com/p/ce-sunt-programele-nationale-de-sanatate</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Sorana Stănescu]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2025 04:01:02 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VaF4!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1e163c8e-3b2c-49b2-a12f-61872efcc5b1_2758x3334.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salut!</p><p>Bine v-am reg&#259;sit la final de var&#259; (m&#259; doare sufletul c&#226;nd spun asta, cred c&#259; &#537;i pe unii dintre voi). </p><p>&#206;n primul r&#226;nd, v&#259; mul&#539;umesc pentru aten&#539;ia cu care a&#539;i citit &#537;i a&#539;i dat mai departe <a href="/__u/open.substack.com/pub/sorana/p/cum-te-afecteaza-reducerile-din-sanatate?r=8k6pm&amp;utm_campaign=post&amp;utm_medium=web&amp;showWelcomeOnShare=false">edi&#539;ia de luna trecut&#259;</a>, e una dintre cele mai populare &#537;i cele mai comentate, ceea ce &#238;mi arat&#259;, iar, c&#226;t&#259; nevoie e de explica&#539;ie clar&#259;, transparent&#259; &#537;i la timp (ca idee, CNAS a dat un comunicat detaliat despre aceste schimb&#259;ri <a href="https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=pfbid0vpxAfKLkmEj3TXzmWNk8GYYy1jNzxALk8m5ipEKan4VPSBPL3PhEsjhtQNu5H95Kl&amp;id=100069349143702">vineri seara, pe 1 august</a>, &#238;n ziua &#238;n care intrau deja &#238;n vigoare).</p><p>Luna asta continu&#259;m cu clarific&#259;ri despre schimb&#259;rile din asigur&#259;rile de s&#259;n&#259;tate &#537;i cu detalii despre Programele Na&#539;ionale de S&#259;n&#259;tate (PNS), despre care &#537;tiu c&#259; majoritatea a&#539;i auzit prima dat&#259; luna trecut&#259;, ca &#537;i cum ar fi o informa&#539;ie banal&#259;. </p><blockquote><p><em>&#536;i acum, o m&#259;rturisire: voi continua s&#259; trimit Foaia de observa&#539;ie, dar e tot mai greu s-o sus&#539;in financiar din alte proiecte, ceea ce se &#238;nt&#226;mpl&#259; de trei ani &#238;ncoace.</em></p><p><em>Edi&#539;ia de luna trecut&#259; a fost echivalentul unei s&#259;pt&#259;m&#226;ni de lucru, ca num&#259;r de ore, &#537;i, pentru prima dat&#259;, am avut curiozitatea s&#259; v&#259;d c&#226;t &#8222;am &#238;ncasat&#8221; din newsletter pentru aceast&#259; s&#259;pt&#259;m&#226;n&#259;: vreo 650 de lei brut, &#238;nainte de comisioanele procesatorului de pl&#259;&#539;i &#537;i de impozitul pe venit pe care &#238;l voi pl&#259;ti (e o medie ob&#539;inut&#259; &#238;mp&#259;r&#539;ind venitul anual la nr. de s&#259;pt&#259;m&#226;ni). Deci vreo 620 de lei, net, cred. </em></p><p><em>Compar&#226;nd cu un salariu lunar de, s&#259; zicem, 6.500 de lei net (cam a&#537;a e &#238;n pres&#259;, dac&#259; ai noroc), pentru aceea&#537;i s&#259;pt&#259;m&#226;n&#259; de lucru a&#537; fi primit 6.500/4 = 1.625 de lei, deci de vreo 2,5 ori mai mult.</em></p><p><em>Sunte&#539;i 9.600 de abona&#539;i &#537;i 76 dintre voi ave&#539;i &#537;i abonament pl&#259;tit. Adic&#259; mai pu&#539;in de 1 din 100.</em></p><p><em>M&#259; cople&#537;e&#537;te &#238;ncrederea cu care m&#259; credita&#539;i &#8211; o v&#259;d &#238;n genul de &#238;ntreb&#259;ri pe care le primesc &#537;i &#238;n comentariile care &#238;nso&#539;esc share-urile. &#536;i, da, Foaia de observa&#539;ie e unul dintre cele mai citite newslettere din Rom&#226;nia, pe locul 9, dac&#259; lu&#259;m &#238;n considerare <a href="https://sidestack.io/directory/language/ro">acest ranking</a> al Substack, <a href="https://www.favikon.com/blog/top-substack-influencers-romania?fbclid=IwdGRjcAMQZgZleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHoGw5kE8BeITB4cFmD4ds6GrOcTLnpYf6OlP9lJkBQL71MMLE1E6EqcwiMIt_aem_St27w6ArqMsYbPRkGjk_yA#7-sorana-stanescu-or-foaia-de-observatie">iar eu &#8211; unul dintre primii 10 influenceri, dac&#259; am da crezare acestui top</a>.</em></p><p><em>Dar vreau s&#259; fiu c&#226;t se poate de transparent&#259; &#238;n privin&#539;a costurilor &#537;i a veniturilor, altfel n-o s&#259; putem niciodat&#259; valoriza o munc&#259; at&#226;t de volatil&#259; precum cea din pres&#259; sau din industriile culturale. </em></p><p><em>Am spus c&#259; articolele mele vor r&#259;m&#226;ne gratuite &#537;i a&#537;a va fi, mi-am asumat c&#259; voi face acest mic act de serviciu public, pentru c&#259; asta cred c&#259; trebuie s&#259; fac&#259; presa. Mai ales acum, c&#226;nd au loc at&#226;tea schimb&#259;ri &#238;n s&#259;n&#259;tate, pe care prea pu&#539;ini dintre noi le &#238;n&#539;eleg, dar care ne afecteaz&#259; pe to&#539;i. &#536;i pe tine, chiar dac&#259; e&#537;ti s&#259;n&#259;tos &#537;i ai abonament la o clinic&#259; privat&#259;. </em></p><p><em>Dar c&#226;t timp pot s&#259; aloc newsletter-ului depinde &#238;n mare parte de c&#226;t&#259; lini&#537;te financiar&#259; am &#8211; de c&#226;&#539;i bani intr&#259; totu&#537;i din newsletter, de c&#226;te alte proiecte am, ce munc&#259; presupun ele &#537;i ce resurse aduc. Aproape fiecare lun&#259; e o ecua&#539;ie cu mai multe necunoscute, &#238;n aceast&#259; carier&#259; precar&#259; de freelancer &#238;n Rom&#226;nia, pe care mi-am ales-o.</em></p><p><em>&#536;tiu, nu m&#259; oblig&#259; nimeni s&#259; fac newsletter-ul &#537;i nici s&#259;-l fac gratuit. Dar at&#226;ta timp c&#226;t asta am decis &#537;i at&#226;ta timp c&#226;t voi sunte&#539;i aici, ce vreau s&#259; spun e c&#259;: 1. A&#537; vrea s&#259; &#537;ti&#539;i costurile de timp &#537;i munc&#259; pe care le presupune &#537;i 2. Dac&#259; v&#259; permite&#539;i s&#259; sus&#539;ine&#539;i misiunea pe care mi-am asumat-o, pentru mine ar fi o garan&#539;ie &#238;n plus c&#259; Foaia de observa&#539;ie va continua.</em></p><p><em><strong>Luna viitoare newsletter-ul &#238;mpline&#537;te 3 ani, &#537;i ce cadou frumos ar fi s&#259; ajung la 100 de abona&#539;i sus&#539;in&#259;tori.</strong></em></p><p><em>Variantele de abonament sunt: 7 EUR/lun&#259;, 80 EUR/an sau membru fondator, de 150 EUR/an &#8211; bani pe care &#238;i declar la ANAF &#537;i pentru care pl&#259;tesc taxe. Dac&#259; e&#537;ti deja abonat pl&#259;titor, &#238;&#539;i mul&#539;umesc. Iar dac&#259; vrei s&#259; devii unul, apas&#259; butonul &#259;sta:</em></p></blockquote><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Sprijin&#259; Foaia de observa&#539;ie cu un abonament pl&#259;tit.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p></p><p>&#536;i acum, revenim. &#206;ncep cu c&#226;teva &#238;ntreb&#259;ri esen&#539;iale, pe care le-am primit dup&#259; edi&#539;ia de data trecut&#259;:</p><h3><strong>1. Pacien&#539;ii oncologici pensionari pl&#259;tesc CASS?</strong></h3><p>Da, dac&#259; au pensie mai mare de 3.000 de lei, pl&#259;tesc 10% pentru ce dep&#259;&#537;e&#537;te aceast&#259; valoare, ca orice al&#539;i pensionari. Confuzia vine din declara&#539;iile repetate ale ministrului S&#259;n&#259;t&#259;&#539;ii &#537;i ale pre&#537;edintelui CNAS, care au spus c&#259; &#8222;pacien&#539;ii oncologici nu pl&#259;tesc CASS&#8221;. Se refereau doar la pacien&#539;ii oncologici <strong>care nu au venituri</strong>, &#537;i care, prin prisma bolii, sunt asigura&#539;i automat.</p><p>Casa Na&#539;ional&#259; de Pensii (CNPP) a clarificat asta <a href="https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=1159110272919822&amp;set=a.245211510976374">pe Facebook</a>.</p><p>(&#536;i eu, ca toat&#259; presa, am preluat ini&#539;ial aceast&#259; informa&#539;ie gre&#537;it&#259; luna trecut&#259;. Am &#238;ntrebat la CNAS dup&#259; ce o cititoare cu pensie mai mare de 3.000 de lei m-a &#238;ntrebat cum afl&#259; CNPP c&#259; ea are cancer, deci nu ar trebui s&#259; pl&#259;teasc&#259; contribu&#539;ia. R&#259;spunsul: nu are de ce s&#259; afle, pl&#259;te&#537;te oricum.)<br></p><h3><br><strong>2. Persoanele cu handicap pl&#259;tesc CASS?</strong></h3><p>Da, dac&#259; au &#537;i <em>alte venituri</em> dec&#226;t indemniza&#539;ia de handicap sau dac&#259; pensia dep&#259;&#537;e&#537;te 3.000 de lei.</p><p>Din nou, cei doi au spus c&#259; &#8222;persoanele cu handicap nu pl&#259;tesc CASS&#8221;. Ar fi trebui s&#259; spun&#259; &#8222;nu pl&#259;tesc CASS pentru indemniza&#539;ia de handicap&#8221;. Tot Casa Na&#539;ional&#259; de Pensii, tot <a href="https://www.facebook.com/CNPP.ro/posts/pfbid0Q3UMi24a8TT4XNdp3vWB5d7VeNvWpFhfGAjq4dLjiQFfywyD97rztbV9EEYJqVghl">pe Facebook</a>.</p><p>Mi-a confirmat &#537;i Ministerul Muncii &#238;ntr-o solicitare trimis&#259; s&#259;pt&#259;m&#226;na trecut&#259;: &#8222;persoanele cu handicap datoreaz&#259; contribu&#539;ia de asigur&#259;ri sociale de s&#259;n&#259;tate pentru <em>toate veniturile impozabile prev&#259;zute la art. 155 Cod Fiscal</em> (salarii, pensii, activit&#259;&#539;i independente, drepturi de proprietate intelectual&#259;, cedarea folosin&#539;ei bunurilor, activit&#259;&#539;i agricole, investi&#539;ii &#537;i alte surse de venit&#8221;.</p><p></p><h3><strong>3. Cum se calculeaz&#259; pensia, dac&#259; pl&#259;tesc &#537;i impozit, &#537;i CASS?</strong></h3><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=1147667490730767&amp;set=a.245211510976374">Idem, CNPP</a>: din ce dep&#259;&#537;e&#537;te 3.000 de lei se scade &#238;nt&#226;i CASS de 10%, iar din ce r&#259;m&#226;ne se mai scade impozitul, tot de 10%.</p><p>&#536;i asta pentru c&#259; CASS e considerat&#259; cheltuial&#259; deductibil&#259;. </p><h3><strong><br>4. Cum se calculeaz&#259; indemniza&#539;ia de cre&#537;tere a copilului, dup&#259; introducerea CASS de 10%?</strong></h3><p>(O cititoare m&#259; &#238;ntreba dac&#259; cei 10% se scad din media veniturilor din ultimii 2 ani, care stau la baza calcului indemniza&#539;iei, medie care poate fi mai mare dec&#226;t plafonul instituit de stat, de 8.500 de lei.)</p><p>Nu, cei 10% se scad din suma lunar&#259; pe care a&#539;i luat-o p&#226;n&#259; acum. Dac&#259; lua&#539;i 2.000 de lei, sunt 10%*2.000 de lei. Dac&#259; erau 8.500, sunt 10%*8.500.</p><h3><strong><br>5. &#206;mi trimite ANAF vreo &#238;n&#537;tiin&#539;are, ca s&#259; pl&#259;tesc pentru persoana pe care am avut-o co-asigurat&#259; gratuit p&#226;n&#259; acum?</strong></h3><p>Nu. Dac&#259; nu am spus-o suficient de clar luna trecut&#259;: dac&#259; a&#539;i avut so&#539;ul sau p&#259;rin&#539;ii f&#259;r&#259; venituri co-asigura&#539;i (gratuit) p&#226;n&#259; la 1 august, de acum va trebui s&#259; pl&#259;ti&#539;i 2.430 de lei/an pentru ei &#537;i s&#259; face&#539;i voi demersurile pentru asta, adic&#259; s&#259; depune&#539;i declara&#539;ia unic&#259; D212 &#238;n Spa&#539;iul Privat Virtual sau la ghi&#537;eu &#537;i s&#259; pl&#259;ti&#539;i. (Pot face &#537;i ei asta, &#238;n nume propriu, &#537;i atunci trebuie s&#259; pl&#259;teasc&#259; ei.) </p><p>N-o s&#259; primi&#539;i acas&#259; nicio &#8222;h&#226;rtie&#8221; c&#259; trebuie s&#259; pl&#259;ti&#539;i.</p><p>Mai mult, dac&#259; n-a&#539;i f&#259;cut &#238;nc&#259; asta, face&#539;i-o c&#226;t mai repede &#537;i duce&#539;i dovada la Casa Jude&#539;ean&#259; de S&#259;n&#259;tate, ca s&#259; nu r&#259;m&#226;n&#259; respectiva persoan&#259; neasigurat&#259; &#537;i s&#259; nu-&#537;i poat&#259; lua re&#539;eta lunar&#259;, de exemplu (sfat pe care l-am primit de la CNAS).</p><p>Informa&#539;iile de la ANAF la Casa de S&#259;n&#259;tate se transmit de abia la finalul lunii, a&#537;a, c&#259; dac&#259; nu a&#539;i depus D212 la &#238;nceputul lui august, &#537;i face&#539;i asta la 1 septembrie, co-asiguratul risc&#259; s&#259; r&#259;m&#226;n&#259; neasigurat p&#226;n&#259; se actualizeaz&#259; informa&#539;ia.</p><p><em>Bine de &#537;tiut: <a href="https://www.avocatnet.ro/articol_70031/CASS-10-Cine-pierde-calitatea-de-asigurat-f&#259;r&#259;-plat&#259;-&#537;i-cine-o-p&#259;streaz&#259;-R&#259;spunsuri-la-cele-mai-frecvente-intreb&#259;ri.html">avocanet.ro au mai r&#259;spuns la astfel de chestiuni punctuale</a>. Sunt corecte, mai pu&#539;in punctul 15, despre pacien&#539;ii din Programele Na&#539;ionale de S&#259;n&#259;tate (PNS), care s-a schimbat (da, deja).</em></p><div class="captioned-button-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/p/ce-sunt-programele-nationale-de-sanatate?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="CaptionedButtonToDOM"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">&#536;tii pe cineva c&#259;ruia i-ar fi de folos aceste informa&#539;ii? 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M-a f&#259;cut s&#259; m&#259; &#238;ntreb &#238;n c&#226;te feluri poate statul avea grij&#259; de cet&#259;&#539;enii lui.</figcaption></figure></div><p></p><h2><strong>Ce sunt Programele Na&#539;ionale de S&#259;n&#259;tate</strong></h2><p>Sunt ni&#537;te... programe:</p><ol><li><p><strong>care vizeaz&#259; chestiuni de s&#259;n&#259;tate public&#259;</strong>, precum programul na&#539;ional de vaccinare, prevenirea &#537;i controlul unor boli transmisibile precum HIV/SIDA sau tuberculoz&#259;, transplantul. Sunt 13 la num&#259;r &#537;i sunt finan&#539;ate de Minister.</p></li><li><p><strong>care ofer&#259; cadrul pentru tratarea &#537;i monitorizarea unor boli cu impact asupra popula&#539;iei</strong>, din punct de vedere al poverii bolii &#537;i num&#259;rului foarte mare de persoane afectate (diabet, cancer, boli cardiovasculare, rare sau neurologice, endometrioz&#259; &#8211; da, exist&#259; de anul trecut, vorbim &#238;ntr-o edi&#539;ie viitoare). Sunt 16 &#537;i sunt finan&#539;ate &#238;n principal de CNAS. <a href="https://ms.ro/ro/minister/organizare/programe-na%C8%9Bionale-de-s%C4%83n%C4%83tate/">Lista lor complet&#259; e aici</a>.</p></li></ol><p>Marele avantaj al PNS-urilor curative (lista a doua de mai sus) e <em>c&#259; nu trebuie s&#259; pl&#259;te&#537;ti CASS</em> ca s&#259; prime&#537;ti tratament &#537;i servicii medicale odat&#259; ce ai una dintre aceste boli foarte grave. Practic, o persoan&#259; neasigurat&#259;, odat&#259; ce are cancer sau o boal&#259; rar&#259;, devine asigurat&#259; pentru orice serviciu medical (&#238;nc&#259;), indiferent dac&#259; era sau nu asigurat&#259; &#238;nainte. </p><p>Acesta este, cred eu, unul dintre cele mai importante beneficii ale sistemului nostru social de s&#259;n&#259;tate, pentru c&#259; toate aceste boli presupun tratamente &#537;i monitoriz&#259;ri extrem de scumpe &#537;i, de cele mai multe ori, &#537;i complica&#539;ii, unele date chiar de tratament.</p><p><em><a href="https://cnas.ro/programe-nationale-de-sanatate-curative/">Cite&#537;te aici despre fiecare program</a> &#537;i ce criterii de includere/excludere exist&#259;.</em></p><p><strong>Cum afli dac&#259; e&#537;ti &#238;ntr-un Program de S&#259;n&#259;tate?</strong> Medicul curant ar trebui s&#259; &#238;&#539;i spun&#259;, &#238;n momentul &#238;n care devii eligibil, &#537;i tot el ar trebui s&#259; &#238;&#539;i spun&#259; c&#226;nd &#8222;ai ie&#537;it&#8221; din Program, adic&#259; atunci c&#226;nd boala ta se consider&#259; vindecat&#259; (din p&#259;cate, tu nu po&#539;i afla singur, online). </p><p>Evident, majoritatea acestor boli sunt pe via&#539;&#259;, dar altele pot fi considerate vindecate, cum ar fi afec&#539;iunile din PNS de Ortopedie (fracturi, de exemplu) sau Oncologie.</p><h3><strong>Schimbarea care s-a schimbat</strong></h3><p>Luna trecut&#259;, autorit&#259;&#539;ile au spus c&#259; pacien&#539;ii din PNS care nu pl&#259;tesc CASS, mai pu&#539;in cei cu cancer, vor r&#259;m&#226;ne asigura&#539;i doar pentru acele tratamente &#537;i servicii medicale necesare trat&#259;rii bolii lor &#8222;de baz&#259;&#8221;, <em>dac&#259; nu &#238;ncep s&#259; pl&#259;teasc&#259; CASS</em>. Practic, se restr&#226;ngea semnificativ &#8222;avantajul&#8221; pe care l-am explicat mai sus.</p><p>Modificarea ar fi &#238;nsemnat, de exemplu, c&#259; o persoan&#259; cu diabet care nu are venituri &#537;i nu pl&#259;te&#537;te CASS (deci acel minim de 2.430 de lei/an) n-ar mai fi putut merge gratuit la un consult oftalmologic sau la o ecografie, pentru c&#259; ele nu &#539;in strict de... diabet (de&#537;i diabetul d&#259; complica&#539;ii oftalmologice). Ar fi fost una dintre schimb&#259;rile cu cel mai mare impact asupra celor mai vulnerabili pacien&#539;i (vreo 60.000) &#537;i i-ar fi &#238;nnebunit pe medici, cu siguran&#539;&#259;.</p><p>La o s&#259;pt&#259;m&#226;n&#259; dup&#259; ce au anun&#539;at modificarea &#537;i au dat &#537;i un Ordin de ministru, &#238;n Guvern s-a stabilit c&#259; <strong>cei din PNS r&#259;m&#226;n totu&#537;i asigura&#539;i pentru tot, ca p&#226;n&#259; acum, p&#226;n&#259; la finalul anului</strong>, tocmai ca s&#259; mai dea ni&#537;te timp oamenilor s&#259;-&#537;i rezolve situa&#539;ia. Detalii &#238;n articolul <a href="https://hotnews.ro/o-noua-schimbare-la-categoriile-exceptate-de-la-plata-asigurarii-de-sanatate-guvernul-s-a-razgandit-la-o-luna-de-la-luarea-deciziei-2041198">Hotnews, aici</a>.</p><h3><strong>Ce trebuie s&#259; faci tu &#238;n situa&#539;ia asta?</strong></h3><p>De&#537;i e stupid, informa&#539;ia c&#259; tu e&#537;ti &#238;n PNS nu ajunge neap&#259;rat automat de la medicul t&#259;u la Casa de S&#259;n&#259;tate. A&#537;a c&#259;:</p><ul><li><p>Dac&#259; e&#537;ti &#238;n PNS &#537;i pl&#259;te&#537;ti &#537;i CASS (pentru c&#259; e&#537;ti angajat sau ai alte venituri), e&#537;ti asigurat &#238;n primul r&#226;nd &#238;n baza statutului t&#259;u de angajat, &#537;i a&#537;a apare &#537;i &#8222;&#238;n sistem&#8221; (po&#539;i s&#259; vezi pe un bilet de trimitere sau pe o re&#539;et&#259; compensat&#259; ce categorie apare bifat&#259;). Deci am zice c&#259; nu conteaz&#259; foarte mult dac&#259; Casa &#537;tie c&#259; e&#537;ti &#537;i &#238;n PNS sau nu.</p></li><li><p>Dar dac&#259; e&#537;ti &#238;n PNS &#537;i &#539;i-ai pierdut statutul de asigurat pe care &#238;l aveai p&#226;n&#259; acum (de exemplu, erai co-asigurat), <em>vrei s&#259; &#537;tie Casa</em> c&#259; e&#537;ti &#238;n PNS, ca s&#259; devii asigurat &#238;n baza acestui fapt (p&#226;n&#259; la finalul anului, dup&#259; cum am zis mai sus). Pentru asta trebuie s&#259; ceri medicului t&#259;u curant (aten&#539;ie! nu medicului de familie, ci specialistului care te are &#238;n eviden&#539;&#259;) o adeverin&#539;&#259; c&#259; e&#537;ti &#238;nregistrat &#238;n PNS, pe care s&#259; o trimi&#539;i la Casa Jude&#539;ean&#259;, ca s&#259; apari &#8222;&#238;n sistem&#8221;.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Dac&#259; vre s&#259; prime&#537;ti lunar, gratuit, astfel de informa&#539;ii, aboneaz&#259;-te. Iar dac&#259; vrei s&#259; m&#259; aju&#539;i s&#259; dedic mai mult timp newsletter-ului, f&#259;-&#539;i un abonament pl&#259;tit.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p></p></li></ul><h3>F&#259;r&#259; bilet de trimitere</h3><p>Un alt &#8222;avantaj&#8221; pe care <strong>unii pacien&#539;i din PNS &#238;l au e nu c&#259; le mai trebuie bilet de trimitere (BT) de la medicul de familie atunci c&#226;nd merg &#238;n ambulatoriu la un medic </strong><em><strong>specialist care trateaz&#259; boala lor </strong></em>&#8211; <a href="https://cnas.ro/2022/05/23/comunicat-ridicare-formularele-tipizate-utilizate-in-sistemul-de-asigurari-sociale-de-sanatate/">celebra Anex&#259; 13</a> la Contractul Cadru, biblia care guverneaz&#259; cum se acord&#259; serviciile medicale acoperite de stat. Practic, dac&#259; ai una dintre bolile din Anex&#259;, nu-&#539;i mai trebuie BT c&#226;nd mergi &#238;n ambulatoriu.</p><p>Luna asta <a href="https://www.facebook.com/MinisterulSanatatii/posts/pfbid0RLVwhFZjvJHVZFmfVb9TUw68zd8H1ZUKVwQARCLby7rjnodRFq4resKq6prQ2StJl">s-au mai ad&#259;ugat c&#226;teva afec&#539;iuni</a> pe lista asta. Anexa 13 nu a fost, efectiv, actualizat&#259;, ci &#238;ntr-un alt<a href="https://legislatie.just.ro/Public/DetaliiDocumentAfis/300526"> ordin de ministru</a> apare men&#539;iunea c&#259; &#8222;<em>unii </em>pacien&#539;ii cu afec&#539;iuni cronice care sunt &#238;nrola&#539;i &#238;n <em>anumite</em> programe na&#539;ionale de s&#259;n&#259;tate&#8221; nu mai au nevoie de BT &#238;n ambulatoriu.</p><p>Dintre ele, majoritatea existau deja &#238;n Anexa 13 (diabet, boli rare, tuberculoz&#259;). Noi sunt HIV/SIDA, hemofilie, talasemie &#537;i sindromul de izoimunizare Rh pentru femei. De aici, alt&#259; confuzie: pacien&#539;ii cronici care &#537;tiau deja asta spun: &#8222;nu e o nicio noutate&#8221;, iar cine aude prima dat&#259; spune: &#8222;wow, ce debirocratizare se &#238;nt&#226;mpl&#259; &#238;n s&#259;n&#259;tate&#8221;.</p><div><hr></div><h2><em>Ce ascunzi despre s&#259;n&#259;tatea ta?</em></h2><p><em>&#536;tiu c&#259; mul&#539;i dintre noi ascundem unele aspecte legate de s&#259;n&#259;tatea noastr&#259;, fie pentru a-i proteja pe cei dragi, fie din ru&#537;ine, fie din teama de a fi stigmatiza&#539;i, da&#539;i afar&#259; de la serviciu, de a ne pierde prietenii. Propria s&#259;n&#259;tate e prin excelen&#539;&#259; o chestiune intim&#259;, dar modul &#238;n care vorbim despre ea e profund cultural, iar Rom&#226;nia e &#539;ara &#238;n care &#238;n continuare &#8222;e ru&#537;ine&#8221; s&#259; ai tuberculoz&#259;, demen&#539;&#259;, problem&#259; de s&#259;n&#259;tate mintal&#259; &#537;i multe altele.</em></p><p><em>Vreau s&#259; scriu despre asta &#8211; ce ascundem, de ce &#537;i cui; n-o s&#259; am r&#259;spunsuri, dar vreau s&#259; ne g&#226;ndim &#238;mpreun&#259; la asta. </em></p><p><em>Va fi un articol mai amplu &#537;i vreau s&#259; vorbesc cu c&#226;t mai mul&#539;i care sunte&#539;i &#238;n situa&#539;ia asta &#8211; sau poate sunte&#539;i cei c&#259;rora li s-a ascuns. Pentru orice detalii a&#537; decide s&#259; folosesc v&#259; voi cere, evident, acordul, dar &#238;n prim&#259; faz&#259; vreau doar s&#259; vorbim. Pute&#539;i da un reply aici sau la <a href="mailto:sorana@substack.com">sorana@substack.com</a>. Mul&#539;umesc!</em></p><div><hr></div><p>La final, c&#226;teva articole mai lume&#537;ti, de la BBC (&#238;n englez&#259;):</p><ul><li><p><a href="https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20250814-can-you-catch-diseases-from-toilet-seats?at_campaign_type=owned&amp;at_medium=emails&amp;at_objective=awareness&amp;at_ptr_type=email&amp;at_ptr_name=salesforce&amp;at_campaign=healthfix&amp;at_email_send_date=20250820&amp;at_send_id=4432992&amp;at_link_title=https%3a%2f%2fwww.bbc.com%2ffuture%2farticle%2f20250814-can-you-catch-diseases-from-toilet-seats&amp;at_bbc_team=crm">C&#226;t de periculoase sunt toalete publice</a>, care e conduita corect&#259; &#537;i de ce s&#259; nu intri cu telefonul mobil (&#238;n general, la baie).</p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20250815-these-scientists-say-they-can-diagnose-health-problems-by-smelling-your-body?at_campaign_type=owned&amp;at_medium=emails&amp;at_objective=awareness&amp;at_ptr_type=email&amp;at_ptr_name=salesforce&amp;at_campaign=essentiallisttu&amp;at_email_send_date=20250819&amp;at_send_id=4432212&amp;at_link_title=https%3a%2f%2fwww.bbc.com%2ffuture%2farticle%2f20250815-these-scientists-say-they-can-diagnose-health-problems-by-smelling-your-body&amp;at_bbc_team=crm">Unele boli schimb&#259; mirosul corpului nostru</a> &#537;i pot fi astfel identificate chiar &#238;nainte s&#259; &#238;nceap&#259; s&#259; se manifeste.</p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.bbc.com/audio/play/m002grrb?at_campaign_type=owned&amp;at_medium=emails&amp;at_objective=awareness&amp;at_ptr_type=email&amp;at_ptr_name=salesforce&amp;at_campaign=healthfix&amp;at_email_send_date=20250820&amp;at_send_id=4432992&amp;at_link_title=https%3a%2f%2fwww.bbc.com%2faudio%2fplay%2fm002grrb&amp;at_bbc_team=crm">Chiar e r&#226;sul cel mai bun medicament?</a> Ne spune neuro&#537;tiin&#539;a r&#226;sului.</p></li></ul><p>Mul&#539;umesc, &#8222;ne vedem&#8221; &#238;n septembrie!</p><p>Sorana</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Cum te afectează reducerile din Sănătate]]></title><description><![CDATA[&#8222;Nu t&#259;iem bani de la pacien&#539;i.&#8221; Doar &#8222;se rea&#537;az&#259; sistemul&#8221;.]]></description><link>https://sorana.substack.com/p/cum-te-afecteaza-reducerile-din-sanatate</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://sorana.substack.com/p/cum-te-afecteaza-reducerile-din-sanatate</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Sorana Stănescu]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2025 04:01:31 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HAPA!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F28667236-8c9b-4dbf-a881-40c1fc9cdfc3_2828x2196.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salut!</p><p>Sper c&#259; ai trecut cu bine prin valul de c&#259;ldur&#259; recent. &#536;i sper c&#259; vom trece cu to&#539;ii cu bine peste valurile de scumpiri &#537;i de t&#259;ieri care urmeaz&#259;. Despre asta vorbim &#537;i noi &#8211; despre schimb&#259;rile din s&#259;n&#259;tate care ne vor afecta pe to&#539;i, de ce am ajuns aici &#537;i cum &#238;&#537;i fur&#259; statul c&#259;ciula c&#226;nd spune c&#259; &#8222;sistemul e nesustenabil&#8221;.</p><p>Iar dac&#259; erai confuz, ca mine, dac&#259; aceste m&#259;suri au devenit lege sau &#238;nc&#259; se discut&#259;, vreau s&#259; diferen&#539;iem &#238;ntre:</p><ul><li><p>M&#259;surile care au fost adoptate &#8211; chiar vinerea trecut&#259; a fost promulgat&#259; <a href="https://legislatie.just.ro/public/DetaliiDocument/300022">Legea 141/2025</a>. <a href="https://www.cdep.ro/pls/proiecte/upl_pck2015.proiect?idp=22474">Aici tot istoricul ei (a&#537;a numitul &#8222;pachet 1&#8221;).</a></p></li><li><p>M&#259;suri care au fost anun&#539;ate, dar nu &#238;nc&#259; asumate de Guvern &#238;n fa&#539;a Parlamentului (a&#537;a numitul &#8222;pachet 2&#8221;).</p></li></ul><p>Iar la final, c&#226;teva 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De la 1 septembrie pl&#259;te&#537;ti asigurare de s&#259;n&#259;tate, dac&#259;:</strong></h4><p>Ai fost co-asigurat, adic&#259; tu nu aveai (sau nu declarai venituri), dar erai asigurat automat prin so&#539;ul/so&#539;ia/copilul t&#259;u adult, care pl&#259;teau contribu&#539;ia la s&#259;n&#259;tate (CASS). &#206;n situa&#539;ia asta sunt 650.000 de oameni, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ehz4GR4OQWg">a spus pre&#537;edintele CNAS pe 3 iulie.</a></p><blockquote><p><strong>Cum faci asta?</strong></p><p>Va trebui s&#259; pl&#259;te&#537;ti o sum&#259; fix&#259; de 2.430 de lei /an, prin <a href="https://static.anaf.ro/static/10/Anaf/Declaratii_R/declaratie_unica.html">declara&#539;ia unic&#259; D212</a>, fie online, prin <a href="https://www.anaf.ro/anaf/internet/ANAF/servicii_online/inregistrare_utilizatori/!ut/p/a1/jZBRT8JADMc_iw97ZC0jLOjblMhGJBHUMO5luZHudsm4W7rTRT69N57EKNintvn9-28LAnIQRn5oJZ22RjZDLeIiHadxGs2i5SK5RYwRN_P5o89w7IHddwDTNeJ6ep9tpotnD8T_0-MfkeA1_fIc-OH_OhkMIl49rBSIVrp6pE1lIc8Mk9KdY8lUtMSdlYaKSh_1nmAL4trUy8Bw9gm4cJdfXDW2PP14l5hyMvMbMlXExOE7-3btXNvdBRhg3_ehslY1FO7tIcDfJLXtHOTnJLSHt_z4VL1kI1F-9snNFzfRbN4!/dl5/d5/L2dBISEvZ0FBIS9nQSEh/">Spa&#539;iul Privat Virtual</a>, fie la o agen&#539;ie fiscal&#259;. Prima tran&#537;&#259; e 607,5 lei &#537;i o pl&#259;te&#537;ti c&#226;nd depui, iar diferen&#539;a &#8211; p&#226;n&#259; la 25 mai anul viitor. <strong>Asigurarea intr&#259; &#238;n vigoare c&#226;nd depui declara&#539;ia &#537;i e valabil&#259; un an. </strong></p><p>(CNAS spune c&#259; &#537;i cel cu venituri, care te asigura p&#226;n&#259; acum, ar putea depune D212 &#238;n numele t&#259;u, dar mie din call center-ul ANAF nu mi-au dat aceast&#259; variant&#259;. Pare c&#259; CNAS &#537;i ANAF trebuie s&#259; se pun&#259; de acord.)</p><p><strong>E obligatoriu s&#259; te asiguri, dac&#259; nu vrei s&#259; pl&#259;te&#537;ti </strong>consulta&#539;iile, investiga&#539;iile &#537;i medicamentele care sunt gratuite sau se compenseaz&#259;.</p><p><strong>De ce suma asta?</strong> </p><p>Este pragul minim pentru a fi asigurat la s&#259;n&#259;tate conform Codului Fiscal &#537;i reprezint&#259; 10% din 6 salarii minime brute pe economie.</p><p><strong>FOARTE IMPORTANT</strong>: </p><ol><li><p><strong>&#206;n august e&#537;ti &#238;nc&#259; asigurat &#238;n baza &#8222;vechii asigur&#259;ri&#8221;</strong>, adic&#259; a statutului de co-asigurat;</p></li><li><p>Dac&#259; &#238;n august nu ai depus aceast&#259; declara&#539;ie (&#537;i, evident, n-ai pl&#259;tit prima tran&#537;&#259;), de la 1 septembrie nu mai e&#537;ti asigurat, deci nu-&#539;i vei putea lua medicamentele compensate din farmacie &#537;i nu vei putea face ni&#537;te analize/consulta&#539;ii cu bilet de trimitere, chiar dac&#259; el/re&#539;eta sunt &#238;nc&#259; valabile;</p></li><li><p>Informa&#539;iile de la ANAF ajung la CNAS doar la sf&#226;r&#537;itul fiec&#259;rei luni, practic atunci se actulizeaz&#259; statutul t&#259;u de asigurat/neasigurat. A&#537;a c&#259; recomandarea e <strong>s&#259; depui declara&#539;ia asta c&#226;t mai la &#238;nceputul lunii</strong>, ca s&#259; nu te treze&#537;ti la 1 septembrie c&#259; nu e&#537;ti asigurat. </p><p>Iar dac&#259; depui dup&#259; 1 septembrie &#537;i ai nevoie de servicii medicale tot &#238;n septembrie, trebuie s&#259; trimi&#539;i o copie a declara&#539;iei depuse &#537;i dovada pl&#259;&#539;ii la Casa Jude&#539;ean&#259; de S&#259;n&#259;tate, ca s&#259; opereze manual modificarea, mi-a explicat vicepre&#537;edinta CNAS, Larisa Mezinu-B&#259;lan. </p></li><li><p>Nu po&#539;i reveni asupra declara&#539;iei: dac&#259; &#238;ntre timp te angajezi sau &#238;ncepi s&#259; ai alte venituri pentru care pl&#259;te&#537;ti CASS, &#259;&#537;tia 2.430 de lei tot trebuie s&#259; &#238;i pl&#259;te&#537;ti. Nu, nu am auzit nic&#259;ieri &#238;n spa&#539;iul public informa&#539;ia asta, mi-au spus c&#226;nd am sunat la call center (recomand: 031.403.91.60).</p></li></ol></blockquote><h4><strong><br>B. De la 1 august pl&#259;te&#537;ti 10% contribu&#539;ii la s&#259;n&#259;tate (&#537;i nu pl&#259;teai p&#226;n&#259; acum), dac&#259;:</strong></h4><ol><li><p>Ai pensie mai mare de 3.000 de lei. Vei pl&#259;ti 10% pentru ce dep&#259;&#537;e&#537;te acest prag de  3.000 de lei &#8211; 1,9 milioane de oameni.</p><p><strong>IMPORTANT:</strong> e valabil pentru to&#539;i pensionarii care primesc pensie, indiferent dac&#259; au cancer sau alte boli cronice severe. </p></li><li><p>Prime&#537;ti o form&#259; de ajutor social &#8211; 323.000.</p></li><li><p>E&#537;ti &#537;omer (adic&#259; e&#537;ti &#238;nregistrat la Agen&#539;ia de Ocupare a For&#539;ei de Munc&#259;, nu doar c&#259; nu ai serviciu) &#8211; 44.000 de persoane.</p></li><li><p>E&#537;ti &#238;n concediu de cre&#537;tere a copilului (acei doi ani dup&#259; na&#537;tere).</p></li><li><p>E&#537;ti &#238;n concediu de acomodare dup&#259; adop&#539;ie.</p></li></ol><p>&#206;n ultimele dou&#259; categorii sunt 127.000 de oameni.</p><blockquote><p><strong>Clarificare</strong>: &#8222;pl&#259;te&#537;ti&#8221; &#238;nseamn&#259;, de fapt, c&#259; &#8222;prime&#537;ti&#8221; cu 10% mai pu&#539;in. Banii se re&#539;in la surs&#259;, tu nu trebuie s&#259; faci nimic. </p></blockquote><p><strong>Practic, &#238;n acest moment, to&#539;i oamenii care au o form&#259; de venit, de la salariu, la pensie, la venituri din chirii, drepturi de autor, la vreo form&#259; de sprijin financiar din partea statului pl&#259;tesc CASS 10%. </strong></p><p><strong>Nota bene: </strong>Po&#539;i oric&#226;nd verifica dac&#259; &#8222;&#238;n sistem&#8221; apari ca asigurat sau nu <a href="https://siui.casan.ro/asigurati/">la acest link</a>. </p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Foaia de observa&#539;ie este proiectul meu independent, f&#259;r&#259; un finan&#539;ator &#537;i f&#259;r&#259; publicitate. Dac&#259; vrei s&#259; m&#259; aju&#539;i s&#259; documentez astfel de subiecte, te rog f&#259;-&#539;i un abonament pl&#259;tit.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h4><strong><br>C. De la 1 august prime&#537;ti mai pu&#539;ini bani pentru concediul medical (CM)</strong></h4><p>De vreun an jumate, &#238;ncep&#226;nd cu fostul premier Ciolacu, concediile medicale au fost ar&#259;tate cu degetul ca aceast&#259; gaur&#259; neagr&#259; &#238;n care se duc banii &#539;&#259;rii.</p><p>Ba c&#259; sunt date fictiv, ba c&#259; se acord&#259; mai multe zile dec&#226;t ar fi nevoie, dar, &#238;n afara unor medici care au fost sanc&#539;iona&#539;i punctual, retorica asta n-a fost confirmat&#259; la scar&#259; larg&#259;. </p><p>Ba mai mult, <a href="https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=pfbid02tfpR7jvLsZKq733gyzxGCK541ErgQqb2KygsxKJZsiUSRiWNRE1XUbMC17mpjX7vl&amp;id=100069349143702">CNAS a ar&#259;tat</a> c&#259; cele mai multe zile au fost &#8222;consumate&#8221; de oamenii cu cancer, de gravide &#537;i de cei cu fracturi. Iar modul de acordare se &#238;n&#259;sprise deja din 2021, deci nu e chiar simplu s&#259; &#238;&#539;i iei concediu medical &#8211; am explicat pe larg <a href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/concediul-medical-cine-cum-cat">&#238;ntr-o edi&#539;ie anterioar&#259;</a>.</p><p>Cert e c&#259; de acum, &#8222;banii de concediu medical&#8221; vor fi &#537;i mai pu&#539;ini pentru cei care au o &#8222;boal&#259; obi&#537;nuit&#259;&#8221; &#8211; codul 01, adic&#259; majoritatea:</p><ul><li><p>55% pentru CM de p&#226;n&#259; la 7 zile</p></li><li><p>65% pentru CM de 8-14 zile</p></li><li><p>75% peste 15 zile</p></li></ul><p>P&#226;n&#259; acum, pentru boal&#259; obi&#537;nuit&#259; era un singur prag, de 75%.</p><p><strong>IMPORTANT:</strong> <a href="https://lege5.ro/gratuit/ha2dcnzt/cod-de-indemnizatie-de-asigurari-sociale-de-sanatate-ordin-125-2006?dp=gi4dmnjtgi2de">tot ce se pl&#259;tea &#238;nainte cu 100%</a> (urgen&#539;ele, cancerul, SIDA) r&#259;m&#226;n la 100%, a spus ministrul S&#259;n&#259;t&#259;&#539;ii, Alexandru Rogobete.</p><p><strong>Calculul se face a&#537;a</strong>: 55% * valoarea medie a unei zile de munc&#259; (calculat&#259; pe ultimele 6 luni) * num&#259;rul de zile <strong>lucr&#259;toare</strong> de CM (doar zilele lucr&#259;toare se pl&#259;tesc), din care se scad contribu&#539;iile sociale de 25% &#537;i, de anul trecut, &#537;i contribu&#539;iile la s&#259;n&#259;tate de 10%.</p><p><em>Am &#238;ncercat ni&#537;te matematic&#259; &#537;i sper s&#259; nu fi gre&#537;it. Dac&#259; sunt printre voi exper&#539;i &#238;n payroll, v&#259; rog corecta&#539;i-m&#259;. </em></p><ul><li><p><em>la 31 iulie, pentru cineva cu 5 zile lucr&#259;toare de CM &#537;i valoarea unei zile de munc&#259; de 200 de lei, indemniza&#539;ia ar fi fost: 75%*(200*5) = 750 lei, minus 25%*750, minus 10%*750 = 487,5 lei. </em></p></li><li><p><em>la 1 august, calculul e 55%*(200*5) = 550 lei, minus 25%*550, minus 10*550 = 357,5.  Deci cu 130 de lei mai pu&#539;in. </em></p><p></p><div class="captioned-button-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/p/cum-te-afecteaza-reducerile-din-sanatate?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="CaptionedButtonToDOM"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Dac&#259; &#537;tii pe cineva c&#259;ruia i-ar fi de folos aceste informa&#539;ii, trimite-i articolul. </p></div><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/p/cum-te-afecteaza-reducerile-din-sanatate?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/cum-te-afecteaza-reducerile-din-sanatate?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p></div><p><br></p></li></ul><h4><strong>D. Dac&#259; e&#537;ti pacient cronic &#238;ntr-un <a href="https://cnas.ro/programe-nationale-de-sanatate-curative/">Program Na&#539;ional de S&#259;n&#259;tate</a> (cum ar fi diabet, boli rare, boli neurologice, HIV/SIDA), &#537;i nu pl&#259;te&#537;ti contribu&#539;ii, r&#259;m&#226;i asigurat doar pentru &#8222;boala de baz&#259;&#8221;, nu &#537;i pentru alte afec&#539;iuni</strong></h4><p>S&#259; explic: cei care aveau aceste afec&#539;iuni &#537;i &#238;ndeplineau ni&#537;te criterii de includere &#238;n Program (severitate a bolii, evolu&#539;ie etc.) erau asigura&#539;i <em>by default</em> la toate serviciile medicale, indiferent dac&#259; cotizau sau nu. &#206;n plus, toate bolile astea presupun ni&#537;te tratamente &#537;i monitoriz&#259;ri foarte scumpe, pe care nu &#539;i le-ai permite.</p><p>Asta, recunosc, mi s-a p&#259;rut una dintre bilele albe ale sistemului nostru so-ci-al de s&#259;n&#259;tate. S&#259; sus&#539;ii ni&#537;te oameni &#238;ntr-o c&#259;l&#259;torie de boal&#259; (c&#259; asta &#238;nseamn&#259; o afec&#539;iune cronic&#259;), pentru care de cele mai multe ori nu sunt vinova&#539;i, &#537;i pe care, cu siguran&#539;&#259;, nu &#537;i-au dorit-o. E &#537;i cazul meu.</p><p>Ei, de acum, <strong>cei care nu pl&#259;tesc contribu&#539;ia la s&#259;n&#259;tate (cei 2.430 de lei din buzunar sau mai mult, &#238;n func&#539;ie de venit), vor mai fi asigura&#539;i doar pentru boala &#8222;de baz&#259;&#8221; (adic&#259; investiga&#539;ii, tratament, dispozitive medicale), nu &#537;i pentru altele care nu au leg&#259;tur&#259; cu boala de baz&#259;.</strong></p><p>Pare de bun sim&#539;. P&#226;n&#259; la un punct.</p><p>Problema e c&#259; <strong>&#8222;boala de baz&#259;&#8221; sau, mai r&#259;u, tratamentul ei, pot da multe complica&#539;ii, iar &#8222;legiuitorii&#8221; nu au stabilit ce intr&#259; &#537;i ce nu &#238;n boala de baz&#259;</strong>, dar &#537;tiu c&#259; se lucreaz&#259; la asta. E cazul, de fapt, al celor mai severe &#537;i r&#259;sp&#226;ndite boli, ca diabetul, dar &#537;i al celor sistemice, autoimune (lupus, scleroz&#259; multipl&#259; etc.), care pot afecta toate organele &#537;i pot da orice simptome.</p><p>A exemplificat foarte clar dr. Sandra Alexiu &#238;ntr-un r&#259;spuns pe care <a href="https://www.facebook.com/sorana.stanescu/posts/pfbid0JztUjRmvt2hLpvssA7YFCe1drCoeSMmZJrATnJyvwLq7NnUT21s8V9TYhiRjAc9ul">mi l-a dat pe Facebook</a>: &#8222;Unui pacient cu diabet &#238;i dau gratuit doar antidiabeticele? Statina<em> (n.r. scade colesterolul</em>) nu o ia compensat, pentru c&#259; nu e asigurat dec&#226;t pe diabet? &#206;i pot face glicemia &#537;i hemoglobina glicozilat&#259;, dar nu &#238;i pot face creatinina?&#8221;.</p><p>Unde mai pui c&#259; unele tratamente obligatorii scad imunitatea &#537;i pot da tot felul de infec&#539;ii, care &#537;i ele au nevoie de analize &#537;i tratament. Deci pentru o infec&#539;ie urinar&#259; repetat&#259;, cauzat&#259; de tratamentul imunosupresor, omul nu va mai putea face analize &#537;i primi antibiotic gratuit dac&#259; nu pl&#259;te&#537;te CASS.</p><p>Dac&#259; v&#259; &#238;ntreba&#539;i c&#226;&#539;i astfel de pacien&#539;i din programele de s&#259;n&#259;tate nu pl&#259;tesc CASS, e vorba de 58.000, care ar fi putut s&#259; aib&#259;, la r&#226;ndul lor, co-asigura&#539;i (<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ehz4GR4OQWg">a spus-o pre&#537;edintele CNAS, Hora&#539;iu Moldovan, pe 3 iulie</a>). Pe l&#226;ng&#259; ei sunt mul&#539;i, ca mine, care cotizeaz&#259;, pentru c&#259; sunt angaja&#539;i sau au alte venituri &#8211; pentru ei nu se schimb&#259; nimic.</p><p>Ce economie face statul cu cei 58.000 nu &#537;tiu. Nu au anun&#539;at vreo sum&#259; &#537;i nici nu &#537;tiu cum s-ar putea calcula. &#8222;Dar e un element de dreptate &#537;i echitate social&#259;&#8221;, a spus Moldovan, &#8222;f&#259;r&#259; a le afecta beneficiile pentru boala grav&#259;&#8221;.</p><p>&#536;i &#8222;nu t&#259;iem bani de la pacien&#539;i&#8221;, a spus &#537;i ministrul S&#259;n&#259;t&#259;&#539;ii <a href="https://www.facebook.com/guv.ro/videos/1044594200807744">pe 21 iulie</a>. Doar &#8222;se rea&#537;az&#259; sistemul&#8221;.</p><p>Explica&#539;ia b&#226;jb&#226;it&#259; de Guvern pentru modificarea asta e c&#259; &#238;n ultimii ani au intrat tot mai mul&#539;i oameni &#238;n Programe, dintre care unii nu-&#537;i fac tratamentele de baz&#259;, dar fac alte investiga&#539;ii, deci, probabil, abuzeaz&#259;.</p><div><hr></div><p><strong>IMPORTANT:</strong></p><ul><li><p><strong>Dac&#259; e&#537;ti pacient oncologic </strong>ai &#238;n continuare dreptul la orice investiga&#539;ii/tratamente necesare, ca &#537;i p&#226;n&#259; acum, peste plafon, nu doar pentru &#8222;boala de baz&#259;&#8221; (practic, e singura categorie de pacien&#539;i &#238;ntr-un Program de S&#259;n&#259;tate care nu e afectat&#259; de modificarea de mai sus). </p></li><li><p><strong>R&#259;m&#226;n valabile investiga&#539;iile pentru Suspiciune Oncologic&#259;</strong>, introduse &#238;n 2024, prin care &#537;i cei asigura&#539;i, &#537;i cei neasigura&#539;i pot face toate investiga&#539;iile necesare pentru diagnosticare, peste plafon (<a href="https://cnas.ro/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Ghidul-asiguratului-editia-3.pdf">vezi Ghidul Asiguratului</a>).</p></li><li><p><strong>R&#259;m&#226;n valabile pachetele de preven&#539;ie</strong>, ceea ce, iar, e esen&#539;ial (vezi tot &#238;n Ghid ce cuprind). </p></li></ul><p>Ultimele dou&#259; puncte le-am confirmat ieri cu CNAS. </p><div><hr></div><h4><strong>&#536;i acum c&#226;teva m&#259;suri (adic&#259; promisiuni) anun&#539;ate, dar nelegiferate:</strong></h4><ul><li><p>Ministrul a spus c&#259; se va prelungi programul &#238;n ambulatorii p&#226;n&#259; la ora 20:00 (acum e, &#238;n general, p&#226;n&#259; la 13:00.</p></li><li><p>Se lucreaz&#259; la o platform&#259; de program&#259;ri online, prin care te-ai putea programa oriunde &#238;n &#539;ar&#259; (asta po&#539;i &#537;i acum, dar nu ai o situa&#539;ie centralizat&#259;). Din toamn&#259; ar trebui s&#259; vezi deja pentru analize &#537;i imagistic&#259;, a spus Moldovan &#238;n conferin&#539;&#259;. (&#206;ns&#259; CNAS promite digitalizarea sistemului de ani &#537;i ani de zile.)</p></li><li><p>&#206;n trei ani nu ar trebui s&#259; mai pl&#259;tim la privat coplata pentru un serviciu rambursat de CNAS (de exemplu, pentru o opera&#539;ie pe care o po&#539;i face &#537;i la stat, &#537;i la privat, aici trebuie s&#259; pl&#259;te&#537;ti o diferen&#539;&#259; substan&#539;ial&#259;, pe l&#226;ng&#259; ce deconteaz&#259; statul).</p></li><li><p>Un medic care lucreaz&#259; cu Casa &#238;n ambulatoriu &#238;&#537;i va putea deschide cabinet, tot &#238;n contract cu Casa, &#238;n zone unde nu exist&#259;.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Toate articolele sunt &#537;i vor r&#259;m&#226;ne gratuite, pentru c&#259; astfel de informa&#539;ie e esen&#539;ial&#259;. Dar ele presupun zile &#238;ntregi de documentare &#537;i scris. Sus&#539;ine-mi demersul cu un abonament pl&#259;tit.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div></li></ul><div><hr></div><h2><strong>De ce toate t&#259;ierile astea &#8211; 4 motive</strong></h2><ul><li><p><strong>Pentru c&#259; sistemul medical nu e sustenabil</strong>, &#537;i asta o spun to&#539;i speciali&#537;tii &#238;n <em>health economics</em>: p&#226;n&#259; acum contribuiau 6 milioane de oameni &#537;i beneficiau aproape 17 &#8211; inclusiv copiii &#537;i pensionarii, categoriile cele mai numeroase. (Sigur, despre pensionari e corect s&#259; spunem c&#259; au contribuit deja toat&#259; via&#539;a.) </p></li></ul><blockquote><p>De acum, cu toate aceste noi categorii, ar trebui s&#259; avem 10 milioane de contributori. 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c&#259; se irosesc sau se cheltuiesc bani abuziv</strong>, de exemplu din modul &#238;n care se finan&#539;eaz&#259; spitalele. Adic&#259; statul &#238;&#537;i fur&#259; singur c&#259;ciula:</p></li></ul><blockquote><p>o Spitalele primesc bani &#238;n func&#539;ie de nivel (c&#226;t de dezvoltate &#537;i specializate sunt), de num&#259;rul de paturi, de gradul de ocupare a paturilor, de diagnosticele pacien&#539;ilor. E o ecua&#539;ie complicat&#259;, &#238;n care, evident, e bine s&#259; ai c&#226;t mai multe paturi, c&#226;t mai ocupate, &#537;i diagnostice c&#226;t mai complexe. Nimeni nu vrea s&#259; piard&#259; paturi, pentru c&#259; s-ar desfiin&#539;a sec&#539;ii &#537;i s-ar da afar&#259; oameni.</p><p>Mai mult, nici costurile astea nu sunt reale, pentru c&#259; nu prea &#537;tim s&#259; le calcul&#259;m &#8211; mai exact, sunt mai mici dec&#226;t cele reale. <strong>&#8222;Nu &#537;tim c&#226;t cost&#259; o apendicit&#259;&#8221;,</strong> a spus pre&#537;edintele CNAS, &#537;i a&#537;a e. &#8222;Dar vom &#537;ti peste un an&#8221;, pentru c&#259; spitalele vor fi obligate s&#259; raporteze costurile reale.</p><p>Nu adun&#259;m &#238;n mod real c&#226;t la sut&#259; din timp a alocat echipa medical&#259; unui pacient, cu gradul de folosire a aparaturii, cu toate materialele sanitare necesare, &#537;i tot a&#537;a, p&#226;n&#259; la cur&#259;&#539;enie &#537;i lift. Ci folosim de 20 de ani un sistem complicat, numit DRG, cump&#259;rat din Australia. (<a href="https://www.drg.ro/caracteristici_drg.html">Dac&#259; vrei s&#259; nu &#238;n&#539;elegi nimic, cite&#537;te aici.</a>)</p><p>o Pentru c&#259; o internare continu&#259; (adic&#259; stai peste noapte &#238;n spital) e mai bine pl&#259;tit&#259; dec&#226;t o internare de zi (adic&#259; faci doar consulturi &#537;i investiga&#539;ii &#537;i pleci acas&#259; la pr&#226;nz), iar o internare de zi e pl&#259;tit&#259; mai bine dec&#226;t o consulta&#539;ie &#238;n <a href="https://cnas.ro/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/pachet-de-baza-si-PNCC_asistenta-ambulatorie_specialitati-clinice.pdf">ambulatoriu</a> (fostele policlinici), evident c&#259; spitalele &#8222;trag&#8221; s&#259; aib&#259; c&#226;t mai multe intern&#259;ri continue.</p><p>Ca idee, dac&#259; un medic te consulta &#238;n ambulatoriu, spitalul primea doar vreo 30-40 de lei, iar de la 1 august &#8211; un pic mai mult. Da, aceea&#537;i consulta&#539;ie pentru care la privat pl&#259;te&#537;ti 300 de lei sau mai mult.</p><p>o <em><a href="https://www.tempdev.com/blog/2023/01/09/what-is-upcoding-in-medical-billing/">Upcoding</a></em> al diagnosticelor &#8211; simplific foarte mult, dar: unele diagnostice sunt pl&#259;tite mai bine dec&#226;t altele &#537;i, cu c&#226;t pacientul e mai bolnav, cu c&#226;t complexitatea cazului cre&#537;te, deci statul pl&#259;te&#537;te mai bine. &#536;i atunci, uneori, &#238;n raport&#259;ri unele diagnostice sunt u&#537;or &#8222;exacerbate&#8221;.</p><p>Un exemplu clasic: irita&#539;ia din cauza scutecului, la copii, sau steatoza hepatic&#259; (&#8222;ficatul gras&#8221;), la adul&#539;i, cresc complexitatea cazului (indiferent de motivul pentru s-a prezentat omul). &#536;i atunci, mul&#539;i au &#537;i irita&#539;ie, respectiv ficat gras. Asta nu &#238;nseamn&#259; c&#259; tu vei primi un diagnostic gre&#537;it sau c&#259; &#539;i se va spune c&#259; ai o boal&#259; mai grav&#259; dec&#226;t ai, de fapt, dar &#537;i aceste diagnostice complementare &#238;&#539;i vor ap&#259;rea pe biletul de externare.</p><p>o Intern&#259;ri fictive &#8211; oameni care apar ca interna&#539;i, dar nu sunt, pentru care statul pl&#259;te&#537;te. Aici vorbim direct de fraud&#259; &#537;i de acum medicii care fac asta vor fi da&#539;i afar&#259;, spune Rogobete.</p><p><strong>Practic, ca s&#259; supravie&#539;uiasc&#259;, spitalele sunt obligate s&#259; abuzeze de mecanismul de finan&#539;are, pe care tot statul l-a creat</strong>, &#537;i pe care reforma Bolojan promite s&#259; &#238;l schimbe.</p><p>Ca idee, uite cum se cheltuiesc banii din S&#259;n&#259;tate:</p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!I6B3!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F788ae2c6-a4b9-4007-9912-ea42f8fde4bd_1302x868.heic" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!I6B3!, /__u/sorana.substack.com/w_424, /__u/sorana.substack.com/c_limit, 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cre&#537;terile din vara asta (curent, TVA, accize la benzin&#259;). Toate materialele sanitare, medicamentele etc. s-au scumpit constant &#238;n ultimii ani. (Da, &#537;i salariile medicilor au crescut, dar cre&#537;terile nu sunt pl&#259;tite din contribu&#539;iile tale la s&#259;n&#259;tate, ci de Ministerul S&#259;n&#259;t&#259;&#539;ii. Tot bani publici sunt, dar vreau s&#259; fac men&#539;iunea asta.)<br></p></li><li><p><strong>Pentru c&#259; toate cheltuielile au crescut, dar &#8222;statul&#8221; nu a &#539;inut pasul la rambursare </strong>&#238;n cele mai multe cazuri &#8211; adic&#259; pl&#259;tea unui spital sau unui laborator c&#226;t pl&#259;tea &#537;i acum cinci ani pentru acela&#537;i serviciu (sau pu&#539;in mai mult, dar insuficient). E unul dintre motivele pentru care foarte, foarte greu g&#259;se&#537;ti s&#259; faci &#238;n privat o ecografie gratuit &#8211; pentru c&#259; statul deconteaz&#259; pentru ele mult sub costul real. </p><p>&#536;i atunci, ca s&#259; se echilibreze c&#226;t de c&#226;t, statul: 1. a redus num&#259;rul celor puteau merge la medic gratuit (vezi mai sus) &#537;i 2. ar trebui acum s&#259; pl&#259;teasc&#259; mai bine serviciile pe care le deconteaz&#259;, tocmai ca s&#259; creasc&#259; accesul.</p></li></ul><p>*<em>Dac&#259; te intereseaz&#259; o analiz&#259; mult mai riguroas&#259; a cheltuielilor cu S&#259;n&#259;tatea, respectiv cu spitalele, cite&#537;te <a href="/__u/substack.com/home/post/p-169036169">aceast&#259; edi&#539;ie din Portavocea</a>, newsletter-ul lui Radu Stochi&#539;a, cercet&#259;tor &#238;n politici de munc&#259;. El arat&#259; chiar c&#259; au sc&#259;zut pu&#539;in costurile cu spitalele.</em></p><div><hr></div><p>Nu sunt naiv&#259;. </p><p>&#206;mi dau seama c&#259; a asigura s&#259;n&#259;tate gratis tuturor nu se poate &#537;i c&#259; p&#226;n&#259; acum, ca &#238;n mai toate sectoarele, am tr&#259;it pe datorie, iar CNAS va trebui s&#259; vin&#259; cu foarte multe reglement&#259;ri &#537;i clarific&#259;ri, la care &#537;tiu c&#259; lucreaz&#259;. Nu po&#539;i redresa un sistem doar reduc&#226;nd costuri, f&#259;r&#259; a colecta mai mul&#539;i bani (v&#259; sun&#259; cunoscut?).</p><p>Cu toate acestea, m&#259; &#238;ntreb dac&#259;:</p><p><strong>E moral </strong>s&#259; iei de la mamele care &#238;&#537;i cresc copiii, &#238;ntr-o &#539;ar&#259; care 1. pretinde c&#259; sus&#539;ine natalitatea &#537;i 2. nu are suficiente cre&#537;e de stat, astfel &#238;nc&#226;t femeile s&#259; se &#238;ntoarc&#259; mai repede la munc&#259;?</p><p>Nu.</p><p><strong>E moral </strong>s&#259; iei de la un pacient cu o boal&#259; cronic&#259;, care nu are venituri &#537;i mai are &#537;i complica&#539;ii din cauza bolii &#537;i chiar a tratamentului? </p><p>Nu.</p><p><strong>E &#238;ns&#259; moral </strong>s&#259; fentezi statul, c&#226;t de rom&#226;ne&#537;te po&#539;i, &#537;i s&#259; nu pl&#259;te&#537;ti contribu&#539;ii de niciun fel, dar s&#259; a&#537;tep&#539;i, &#537;i s&#259; folose&#537;ti, gratis toate serviciile publice? Nu vreau s&#259;-i pun la zid, dar m&#259; g&#226;ndesc la to&#539;i me&#537;terii pe care &#238;i chem&#259;m s&#259; ne zugr&#259;veasc&#259;, la mecanicii auto c&#259;rora &#537;i noi prefer&#259;m s&#259; le d&#259;m cash, ca s&#259; nu mai pl&#259;tim TVA la service, la &#8222;forma&#539;iile&#8221; pe care le chem&#259;m s&#259; c&#226;nte la nunt&#259;. &#536;i astea sunt exemplele cele mai la &#238;ndem&#226;n&#259;, &#8222;<em>petty cash</em>&#8221;, probabil.</p><p>Nu.</p><p><strong>E normal</strong> ca o bun&#259; parte a clasei de mijloc, cu salarii bune, deci &#537;i contribu&#539;ii decente, s&#259; se simt&#259; nedrept&#259;&#539;it&#259; c&#259; pl&#259;te&#537;te &#238;n privat analize &#537;i consulta&#539;ii pentru c&#259; nu g&#259;se&#537;te loc la stat?</p><p>Da.</p><p>Partea mai complicat&#259; e c&#259; toate aceste adev&#259;ruri co-exist&#259; &#537;i, ca oameni, ne e foarte greu s&#259; integr&#259;m nuan&#539;e &#537;i s&#259; privim &#537;i din perspectiva celorlal&#539;i, &#537;i cu at&#226;t mai mult a &#8222;sistemului&#8221;. Iar nuan&#539;ele tind s&#259; fie cu at&#226;t mai neglijate &#238;n situa&#539;ii de criz&#259;, cum e acum, c&#226;nd trebuie s&#259; scoatem bani de undeva cu orice pre&#539;.</p><p>&#536;i, da, &#238;n buna tradi&#539;ie rom&#226;neasc&#259;, multe decizii se iau plec&#226;nd de la suspiciunea c&#259; cineva fur&#259;: fur&#259; la concedii medicale, fur&#259; la analize inutile, fur&#259; la program, fur&#259; nedeclar&#226;ndu-&#537;i venitul. Cu to&#539;ii &#537;tim pe cineva care a f&#259;cut toate astea sau am f&#259;cut-o chiar noi, &#537;i tot ne sim&#539;im nedrept&#259;&#539;i&#539;i.</p><p>N-am o concluzie &#537;i nici o solu&#539;ie, dar m&#259; &#238;ntorc la ceva ce a zis psihiatrul Eugen Hriscu la o conferin&#539;&#259; luna trecut&#259;: <strong>&#8222;Regulile func&#539;ioneaz&#259; doar dac&#259; le respect&#259;m to&#539;i&#8221;.</strong></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/p/cum-te-afecteaza-reducerile-din-sanatate?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/cum-te-afecteaza-reducerile-din-sanatate?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><p><em>Le mul&#539;umesc mult pentru clarific&#259;ri, respectiv ajutor la calcule, doamnelor: Larisa Mezinu-B&#259;lan, vicepre&#537;edinte CNAS, dr. Raluca Zoi&#539;anu &#537;i colegei mele, Alexandra Iva&#537;cu.</em></p><div><hr></div><h2>Utilitare:</h2><p><strong><a href="https://www.instagram.com/reel/DLubGDKPjQn/?igsh=MXd5NzVoeDJ5N3h2Zg%3D%3D">C&#259;pu&#537;e.</a> </strong>Cea mai bun&#259; explica&#539;ie pe care eu am v&#259;zut-o despre pericolul mu&#537;c&#259;turii, cum se scot corect &#537;i de ce primele 36 de ore sunt cruciale. </p><p>&#536;i nu, nu exist&#259; vaccin &#238;mpotriva Bolii Lyme, pe care c&#259;pu&#537;a o poate transmite, e un mit care circul&#259; de c&#226;&#539;iva ani. Dar exist&#259; vaccin &#238;mpotriva encefalitei provocate de c&#259;pu&#537;&#259;, o boal&#259; neurologic&#259; la fel de periculoas&#259;. &#536;i pentru adul&#539;i, &#537;i pentru copii. <a href="/__u/open.substack.com/pub/sorana/p/si-adultii-fac-vaccinuri?r=8k6pm&amp;utm_campaign=post&amp;utm_medium=web&amp;showWelcomeOnShare=false">Am scris aici</a>.</p><p><strong><a href="https://ms.ro/ro/contact/formular-raportare-hrana-in-spitale/">M&#226;ncarea din spitale</a>. </strong>Dac&#259; e&#537;ti nemul&#539;umit, &#238;i po&#539;i comunica Ministerului, prin acest formular. Noul ministru, a c&#259;rui ini&#539;iativ&#259; este, nu a zis &#238;ns&#259; &#537;i ce se poate schimba. Bugetul pentru hrana unui bolnav e, prin lege, 22 de lei pe zi (sau 33 pentru copii, oameni cu diabet, cancer sau transplant).</p><p><strong>Nurofenul &#537;i &#537;ofatul.</strong> MS a publicat <a href="https://www.ms.ro/ro/lista-medicamentelor-autorizate-%C3%AEn-rom%C3%A2nia-care-con%C8%9Bin-substan%C8%9Be-ce-pot-prezenta-efecte-psihoactive-%C8%99i-pot-afecta-capacitatea-de-a-conduce-autovehicule/">lista medicamentelor cu substan&#539;e psihoactive</a> care pot influen&#539;a capacitatea de a conduce, adic&#259; acelea care ne-ar putea trimite la &#238;nchisoare dac&#259; se aprob&#259; vreodat&#259; <a href="https://www.cdep.ro/pls/proiecte/upl_pck2015.proiect?idp=22316">legea abuziv&#259;</a>. Deocamdat&#259; a trecut de Senat &#537;i e &#238;n <em>stand by</em> la Camer&#259;. Criminologul Vlad Zaha <a href="https://shorturl.at/6MHZm">explic&#259;</a>.</p><p>S&#259; ne citim s&#259;n&#259;to&#537;i luna viitoare!</p><p></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Avem doar 13 specialiști pentru politicile de screening]]></title><description><![CDATA[Deciden&#539;ilor trebuie s&#259; le vinzi visul &#537;i standardele.]]></description><link>https://sorana.substack.com/p/avem-doar-13-specialisti-pentru-politicile</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://sorana.substack.com/p/avem-doar-13-specialisti-pentru-politicile</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Sorana Stănescu]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2025 04:01:04 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hiAm!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8730a1a2-2cfd-4732-a699-35c7535c475c_1200x800.heic" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salut,</p><p>Edi&#539;ia asta e un pic mai tehnic&#259;, dar cred ca e important&#259; ca s&#259; &#238;n&#539;elegem de c&#226;t&#259; voin&#539;&#259; &#537;i de c&#226;te piese de puzzle e nevoie ca s&#259; construie&#537;ti politici publice &#238;n Rom&#226;nia. &#206;n cazul &#259;sta &#8211; un program de screening popula&#539;ional pentru cancer (despre investiga&#539;iile propriu-zise &#537;i cum le po&#539;i accesa <a href="/__u/open.substack.com/pub/sorana/p/cum-sa-ti-depistezi-riscul-de-cancer?r=8k6pm&amp;utm_campaign=post&amp;utm_medium=web&amp;showWelcomeOnShare=false">am scris aici)</a>.</p><p>Recunosc c&#259; &#537;i eu am plecat dintr-un &#8222;loc comun&#8221;, ca s&#259;-l numesc a&#537;a. Am crezut c&#259; ce lipse&#537;te e eterna digitalizare, adic&#259; softuri complicate construite de IT-i&#537;ti de&#537;tep&#539;i pe bani mul&#539;i. Am gre&#537;it. Am descoperit o realitate mult mai complex&#259;, dar &#537;i un exemplu c&#259; se poate: Slovenia.</p><p>De&#537;i &#238;mi plac puzzle-urile de genul &#259;sta, o s&#259; descriu aici varianta un pic mai scurt&#259; &#537;i te invit s&#259; cite&#537;ti <a href="/__u/open.substack.com/pub/sorana/p/screeningul-pentru-cancer-in-romania?r=8k6pm&amp;utm_campaign=post&amp;utm_medium=web&amp;showWelcomeOnShare=false">articolul complet aici</a>. Iar la final am mai multe recomand&#259;ri &#537;i ve&#537;ti bune pentru tine.</p><h2><strong>Unde suntem?</strong></h2><p>Pe primul loc &#238;n UE la decese din cauze (adic&#259; boli) tratabile &#537;i pe antepenultimul &#8211; din cauze ce ar fi putut fi prevenite.</p><p>Dintre acestea, cancerul este a doua cauza&#774; principala&#774; de deces, dupa&#774; bolile cardiovasculare, &#238;n condi&#539;iile &#238;n care (unele tipuri de) cancer sunt singurele afec&#539;iuni pentru care se poate face screening (am explicat <a href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/cum-sa-ti-depistezi-riscul-de-cancer">tot aici</a> care sunt criteriile).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2IKN!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F269262f6-ef0c-4974-ab6b-bdb60a13557b_2450x1158.heic" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div 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prevenibil&#259;</strong>, cancerul de col uterin. Tocmai de aceea, Organiza&#539;ia Mondial&#259; a S&#259;n&#259;t&#259;&#539;ii (OMS) &#537;i-a propus &#238;n 2020 eliminarea lui ca problem&#259; de s&#259;n&#259;tate public&#259;, iar pentru asta, fiecare &#539;ar&#259; ar trebui s&#259; &#238;ndeplineasc&#259; <a href="https://insp.gov.ro/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Analiza-de-situatie-cancer-de-col-uterin-2024.pdf">c&#226;teva &#539;inte p&#226;n&#259; &#238;n 2030:</a></p><ul><li><p>90% din fetele p&#226;n&#259; &#238;n 15 ani s&#259; fie vaccinate HPV;</p></li><li><p>70% din femeile de 35-45 de ani s&#259; participe la screening;</p></li><li><p>90% din femeile cu cancer sau leziuni pre-canceroase s&#259; aib&#259; acces la tratament, inclusiv paliativ &#8211; ni&#537;te &#539;inte care mi se par imposibil de atins pentru noi.</p></li></ul><p>Spre compara&#539;ie, noi avem cam <a href="https://hotnews.ro/cifrele-ingrozitoare-despre-care-statul-nu-vorbeste-desi-romania-ofera-unul-dintre-cele-mai-generoase-programe-de-vaccinare-impotriva-cancerului-din-europa-cele-mai-recente-date-socheaza-1938231">8% popula&#539;ie vaccinat&#259; HPV</a> (de&#537;i &#537;i cifrele astea sunt discutabile) &#537;i doar 30% dintre femei care s&#259; fi f&#259;cut screening pentru cancerul de col (<a href="https://www.oecd.org/content/dam/oecd/ro/publications/reports/2023/02/eu-country-cancer-profile-romania-2023_b7601b86/20726aa6-ro.pdf">conform unui raport al Comisiei Europene &#537;i OECD pe 2023</a>), unde 30% reprezint&#259; declara&#539;iile femeilor, pentru c&#259; date centralizate nu avem.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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nici ca &#539;ar&#259;, de&#537;i preven&#539;ia este cea mai cost-eficace m&#259;sur&#259;, matematic. Investi&#539;iile &#238;n preven&#539;ie &#238;ncep s&#259; se vad&#259; dup&#259; (doar) 4-6 ani.</p><p>O component&#259; a preven&#539;iei este screeningul, care &#238;nseamn&#259; c&#259; persoane s&#259;n&#259;toase, f&#259;r&#259; simptome, fac anumite investiga&#539;ii &#238;n mod regulat, pentru a depista riscul sau probabilitatea unei afec&#539;iuni: mamografie, test FIT (descoper&#259; hemoragii &#238;n materiile fecale) sau testare HPV. </p><p>Pot s&#259; fac&#259; testele respective pe cont propriu (caz &#238;n care vorbim de <strong>screening &#8222;oportunist&#8221;</strong>) sau &#238;n cadrul unui program na&#539;ional organizat (&#537;i atunci vorbim de s<strong>creening &#8222;popula&#539;ional&#8221;</strong>, care nu &#238;nseamn&#259; doar c&#259; vizeaz&#259; <em>toate</em> persoanele eligibile, ci c&#259; se respect&#259; <a href="https://cancer-code-europe.iarc.fr/index.php/ro/12-modalitati/screeningul/3620-ghiduri-europene-pentru-asigurarea-calitatii-in-screeningul-pentru-cancer">ni&#537;te criterii de calitate</a> foarte clare, stabilite de Consiliul Uniunii Europene &#238;n 2023, cum ar fi metodele &#537;i tipul de aparate folosite, dar &#537;i nivelul de instruire a medicilor).</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Foaia de observa&#539;ie este proiectul meu independent, f&#259;r&#259; un finan&#539;ator &#537;i f&#259;r&#259; publicitate. Dac&#259; astfel de analize &#539;i se par importante, sus&#539;ine-m&#259; cu un abonament pl&#259;tit.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h2><strong>Unde suntem la capitolul screening</strong></h2><p>Nu avem programe popula&#539;ionale &#238;n vigoare, dar <strong>investiga&#539;iile pentru cele trei tipuri de cancer pentru care se poate face screening (de col, de s&#226;n &#537;i colorectal) sunt acoperite de Casa de S&#259;n&#259;tate, &#238;n cadrul pachetului de analize de preven&#539;ie, at&#226;t pentru asigura&#539;i, c&#226;t &#537;i pentru neasigura&#539;i</strong> (<a href="https://cnas.ro/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Ghidul-asiguratului-editia-3.pdf">detalii &#238;n Ghidul Asiguratului</a> &#537;i &#238;n <a href="/__u/open.substack.com/pub/sorana/p/cum-sa-ti-depistezi-riscul-de-cancer?r=8k6pm&amp;utm_campaign=post&amp;utm_medium=web&amp;showWelcomeOnShare=false">articolul meu</a>).</p><p>Chiar &#537;i a&#537;a, procesul e greoi &#537;i mai nimeni nu &#238;l &#537;tie: e nevoie de consult &#537;i de bilet de trimitere de la medicul de familie, program&#259;rile se ob&#539;in greu (aproape imposibil &#238;n cazul mamografiei), standardele de calitate nu sunt unitare &#537;i datele nu se centralizeaz&#259; nic&#259;ieri.</p><p><strong>Rom&#226;nia are 13(!) angaja&#539;i care se ocup&#259; de tot ce &#238;nseamn&#259; screening </strong>&#238;n cadrul Institutului Na&#539;ional de S&#259;n&#259;tate Public&#259; (INSP), institu&#539;ia responsabil&#259;: ei elaboreaz&#259; metodologii, ei particip&#259; la diferite grupuri de lucru la nivelul UE (pentru c&#259; recomand&#259;rile sunt &#238;n continu&#259; dinamic&#259;), ei se ocup&#259;, par&#539;ial, &#537;i de implementare. &#536;i tot ei ar fi responsabili de crearea unui sistem popula&#539;ional de screening &#537;i a registrelor aferente (explic mai jos).</p><p>Spre compara&#539;ie, Slovenia, una dintre &#539;&#259;rile cele mai eficiente &#238;n materie de screening din Europa, are &#238;n jur de 50 de persoane care se ocup&#259; de managementul celor trei programe: s&#226;n, col &#537;i colorect, la o popula&#539;ie mai mic&#259; dec&#226;t a Bucure&#537;tiului.</p><p>A&#537; vrea &#238;ns&#259; s&#259; subliniez c&#259; nu e vorba doar de lips&#259; de capacitate administrativ&#259;, ci de lips&#259; de voin&#539;&#259;, inclusiv politic&#259; &#537;i la nivelul sistemului sanitar. <strong>&#8222;E un proces la care trebuie s&#259; pun&#259; to&#539;i um&#259;rul&#8221;</strong>, spune dr. Carmen Ungurean, coordonator preven&#539;ie &#537;i screening la INSP.</p><div class="pullquote"><p>&#8222;C&#226;nd vorbim la conferin&#539;e, la workshop-uri, la Parlament: cancerul este o prioritate, programele de screening sunt o prioritate, Rom&#226;nia trebuie s&#259; decid&#259; dac&#259; sunt realmente o prioritate &#537;i atunci fiecare s&#259; pun&#259; um&#259;rul &#537;i s&#259; trag&#259; &#238;n aceea&#537;i direc&#539;ie.&#8221; (dr. Ungurean)</p></div><h2><strong>Ce este sistemul invitare-reinvitare?</strong></h2><p>Una dintre componente unui sistem func&#539;ional de screening este sistemul invitare-reinvitare, adic&#259; INSP s&#259; &#537;tie, cu nume &#537;i adres&#259; cine ar trebui s&#259; fac&#259; investiga&#539;iile de screening, &#238;n func&#539;ie de sex, v&#226;rst&#259; &#537;i antecedente, &#537;i s&#259;-i trimit&#259; acas&#259; o scrisoare cu o programare f&#259;cut&#259; la un centru din apropiere (nu toate spitalele ar putea face screening).</p><p>Sistemul &#259;sta exist&#259; &#238;n multe &#539;&#259;ri europene. Am beneficiat de el &#238;n 2010, c&#226;nd f&#259;ceam masteratul la Londra, &#537;i am primit la c&#259;min o astfel de scrisoare pentru testare HPV.</p><p>&#536;i de aici am plecat &#238;n documentarea mea: am fost convins&#259; c&#259;, dac&#259; rezolv&#259;m invitarea, o s&#259; avem screening. Dar mi-am dat seama repede c&#259; vorbim, de fapt, de un &#238;ntreg ecosistem, care &#238;ncepe de la infrastructura de transport &#537;i educare (at&#226;t a oamenilor, c&#226;t &#537;i a personalului medical) &#537;i merge p&#226;n&#259; la diagnosticare, tratament &#537;i monitorizare ulterioar&#259;.</p><p>&#206;n Rom&#226;nia, sistemul acesta de invitare-reinvitare tot INSP, cu cei 13 angaja&#539;i ai lui, ar trebui s&#259;-l fac&#259;.</p><p>Ar trebui s&#259; &#238;nceap&#259; cu crearea unui <strong>registru de screening</strong>, adic&#259; &#8222;baza de date &#238;n baza c&#259;reia faci scrisoarea &#537;i &#238;n care &#238;nregistrezi sistematic dac&#259; persoana s-a prezentat, ce rezultat a avut, dac&#259; a mers mai departe, dac&#259; a primit programare &#537;i p&#226;n&#259; intr&#259; &#238;n tratament&#8221;, mi-a explicat dr. Ungurean. Mai simplu, trebuie s&#259; &#537;tii cui s&#259; trimi&#539;i scrisoarea, acum &#537;i data viitoare c&#226;nd &#238;i vine r&#226;ndul.</p><p>Rom&#226;nia nu are un registru de screening la nivel na&#539;ional, are unele regionale pe hepatit&#259; &#537;i cancer colorectal, create cu ocazia unor programe de screening pilot, cu bani europeni, care au avut loc p&#226;n&#259; &#238;n 2023 (cum de s-au putut crea acestea am ar&#259;tat &#238;n <a href="/__u/open.substack.com/pub/sorana/p/screeningul-pentru-cancer-in-romania?r=8k6pm&amp;utm_campaign=post&amp;utm_medium=web&amp;showWelcomeOnShare=false">articolul pe larg</a>).</p><p>Acest registru par&#539;ial pentru cancerul colorectal e activ &#238;n continuare &#537;i a fost updatat <em>in house</em> de INSP astfel &#238;nc&#226;t s&#259; poat&#259; fi ad&#259;ugat&#259; toat&#259; popula&#539;ia eligibil&#259; a Rom&#226;niei &#537;i s&#259; poat&#259; completa &#238;n el to&#539;i furnizorii medicali, nu doar cei care au luat parte la proiectul pilot. Deci a fost preg&#259;tit, cumva, pentru o extindere na&#539;ional&#259;, &#537;i &#259;sta &#537;i a fost unul dintre scopurile proiectelor pilot.</p><div class="captioned-button-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/p/avem-doar-13-specialisti-pentru-politicile?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="CaptionedButtonToDOM"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Dac&#259; &#537;tii pe cineva interesat de acest subiect, trimite-i articolul.</p></div><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/p/avem-doar-13-specialisti-pentru-politicile?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/avem-doar-13-specialisti-pentru-politicile?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p></div><h2><strong>Ce presupune crearea unui program de screening pentru cancer?</strong></h2><p>&#206;n primul r&#226;nd, presupune crearea &#8222;flow-ului&#8221;, adic&#259; designul sistemului: care e scopul, ce trebuie s&#259; se &#238;nt&#226;mple, pe etape, cine e responsabil pentru fiecare etap&#259;, de ce resurse e nevoie, cum sunt asigurate criteriile de calitate, cum sunt analizate datele.</p><p>Din punct de vedere &#8222;tehnic&#8221;, are dou&#259; mari componente: <strong>registre na&#539;ionale</strong>, care ar cuprinde toat&#259; popula&#539;ia eligibil&#259; (sunt mai multe, pentru c&#259; ar fi unul pentru fiecare tip de cancer), &#537;i <strong>infrastructura digital&#259; necesar&#259; </strong>(adic&#259; softul/aplica&#539;ia &#238;n sine).</p><p>La r&#226;ndul lor, registrele ar trebui interconectate cu <strong>dou&#259; baze mari de date: cea popula&#539;ional&#259;</strong>, pe care o administreaz&#259; <a href="https://depabd.mai.gov.ro/">Direc&#539;ia General&#259; pentru Eviden&#539;a Popula&#539;iei</a> (ceea ce se poate, dar <strong>e nevoie de o lege</strong>), <strong>&#537;i registrul pacien&#539;ilor care au deja cancer (&#537;i care nu exist&#259;).</strong></p><blockquote><p>Chiar dac&#259; nu avem &#238;nc&#259; un registru de cancer, are sens s&#259; &#238;ncepem unul de screening, pentru c&#259; sunt multe alte lucruri de monitorizat.</p></blockquote><p>Pentru a ob&#539;ine &#537;i folosi date de la Eviden&#539;a Popula&#539;iei, e nevoie &#238;n primul r&#226;nd de o lege, mi-a explicat directorul general, chestorul C&#259;t&#259;lin Giulescu, care s&#259; detalieze necesitatea cre&#259;rii &#537;i condi&#539;iile de operare a acestor registre de screening. Adic&#259;: ce informa&#539;ii va folosi INSP, cu ce scop, cu ce limite, ce date vor veni de la Eviden&#539;a Popula&#539;iei, cine va avea acces la ele, faptul c&#259; nu e nevoie de consim&#539;&#259;m&#226;ntul persoanei pentru a fi inclus&#259; &#238;n registru &#537;i ce se &#238;nt&#226;mpl&#259; dac&#259; cineva cere radierea din registru.</p><p>Tot el mi-a confirmat c&#259; nu &#238;ncalc&#259; GDPR (de&#537;i am aflat c&#259; &#238;n ni&#537;te discu&#539;ii anterioare &#238;ntre INSP &#537;i institu&#539;ia lui, aici s-ar fi blocat lucrurile) &#537;i c&#259; ministerul de care apar&#539;ine, MAI, va sus&#539;ine proiectul de lege.</p><h2><strong>Registrul de cancer-care-nu-exist&#259;</strong></h2><p>Crearea unui registru de cancer (adic&#259; acea &#8222;list&#259;&#8221; cu to&#539;i pacien&#539;ii) <strong>e tot &#238;n responsabilitatea INSP</strong>, conform unei Hot&#259;r&#226;ri de Guvern din 2023 &#537;i ar trebui f&#259;cut cu bani din PNRR, cu scopul principal de a produce date despre inciden&#539;&#259; &#537;i supravie&#539;uirea cu cancer.</p><p>De fapt, ar fi mai multe registre: cancer, boli rare, diabet &#537;i politraum&#259;, care sunt condi&#539;ionate unul de altul &#8211; dac&#259; nu se face unul, nu se primesc banii nici pentru celelalte.</p><p>La &#238;nceputul lui 2024 s-au f&#259;cut licita&#539;ii care au fost contestate, acum se re-evalueaz&#259; ofertele, iar banii trebuie cheltui&#539;i p&#226;n&#259; &#238;n 2026 inclusiv. Conform caietului de sarcini, spitalele nu ar trebui s&#259;-&#537;i cumpere niciun alt soft &#537;i nici s&#259; angajeze oameni &#238;n plus, pentru c&#259; registrul &#537;i-ar trage singur toate datele necesare.</p><p>La INSP ar mai trebui doar codificate (introduse) manual anumite informa&#539;ii, &#537;i pentru asta ar trebui c&#226;te doi registratori pe regiune. Nici INSP nu ar trebui s&#259; mai angajeze personal suplimentar, spune dr. Ungurean, ci s&#259;-l formeze pe cel existent.</p><p>Ar fi nevoie doar de suport IT dup&#259; cei 5 ani &#238;n care firma c&#226;&#537;tig&#259;toare trebuie s&#259; asigure mentena&#539;&#259;, plus un analist de date foarte bun. Dr. Ungurean sper&#259; totu&#537;i ca, <strong>odat&#259; licita&#539;ia &#238;ncheiat&#259;, registrul de cancer s&#259; poat&#259; fi gata &#238;n 6 luni &#537;i dat &#238;n test</strong> (la cancer e mai simplu pentru c&#259; exist&#259; metodologie european&#259;, pe c&#226;nd celelalte trebuie f&#259;cute de la zero).</p><p>Ce vreau s&#259; spun e c&#259; &#537;i acest registru, de care vorbim de ani de zile, ar putea s&#259; aib&#259; &#537;anse reale de reu&#537;it&#259; dac&#259; lucrurile s-ar &#238;nt&#226;mpla c&#226;nd &#537;i cum trebuie.</p><h2><strong>Infrastructura digital&#259;</strong></h2><p>Presupun&#226;nd c&#259; avem registrele de cancer &#537;i un sistem de invitare-reinvitare, putem vorbi de &#8222;digitalizare&#8221;.</p><p>Acum, INSP are un mic departament de IT &#537;i statistic&#259; in house &#537;i c&#226;&#539;iva speciali&#537;ti IT cu care colaboreaz&#259; de mul&#539;i ani &#537;i care au &#238;n&#539;eles nevoile &#537;i particularit&#259;&#539;ile institu&#539;iei &#537;i, cel mai important, au &#238;n&#539;eles c&#259; asemenea registre nu sunt un proiect pe termen determinat, ci sunt <em>ongoing</em> &#537;i au nevoie permanent&#259; de <em>upgrade</em>.</p><p>Ei sunt cei administreaz&#259; actualele registre pe hepatit&#259; &#537;i cancer colorectal, cele din proiectele pilot.</p><p>Aici credeam eu c&#259; intervin IT-i&#537;tii, softurile complicate &#537;i banii.</p><p>Dar <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/puchiu/?originalSubdomain=ro">Radu Puchiu</a>, expert &#238;n crearea de aplica&#539;ii &#537;i platforme digitale la intersec&#539;ia dintre sectorul public &#537;i societatea civil&#259;, mi-a explicat c&#259; un asemenea sistem se poate face chiar in house, dar &#8222;tenta&#539;ia e foarte mare s&#259; pui uneltele &#238;naintea proceselor&#8221;, spune el, dup&#259; 10 ani de lucru &#238;n sectorul public. &#8222;Digitalizarea nu e despre crearea unui soft de&#537;tept, ci despre accelerare, simplificare, amplificare&#8221;.</p><p>&#206;nt&#226;i de toate, &#238;&#539;i trebuie claritate din punct de vedere legal, institu&#539;ional &#537;i la nivel de procese, trebuie s&#259; g&#226;nde&#537;ti un <em><strong>user journey</strong> </em>&#537;i &#238;&#539;i mai trebuie <strong>un anumit tip de leadership</strong>: un coordonator din interiorul INSP cu legitimitate, care s&#259; fac&#259; din asta o misiune, f&#259;r&#259; s&#259; mai aib&#259; alte atribu&#539;ii. </p><div class="pullquote"><p>&#8222;Nu poate s&#259; fie cineva care deja face 10 lucruri, i-l dau pe al 11-lea &#537;i &#238;i spun c&#259; e prioritar&#8221;, spune el. &#8222;Nu o s&#259; func&#539;ioneze a&#537;a.&#8221;</p></div><p>C&#226;t despre hosting, chestorul Giulescu sugereaz&#259; s&#259; fie pe cloudul guvernamental, gestionat de STS, &#537;i asta ar rezolva problema securit&#259;&#539;ii datelor &#537;i conectivit&#259;&#539;ii.</p><h2><strong>Criteriile de calitate &#537;i educarea medicilor</strong></h2><p>O alt&#259; <strong>pies&#259; absolut esen&#539;ial&#259; de puzzle &#238;n procesul de screening const&#259; &#238;n preg&#259;tirea continu&#259; a medicilor &#537;i asigurarea standardelor de calitate europene</strong> de care vorbeam mai sus. </p><p>Practic, un gastroenterolog ar trebui s&#259; fac&#259; colonoscopii de screening numai dac&#259; are o anumit&#259; experien&#539;&#259;, face un anumit curs &#537;i are o anumit&#259; aparatur&#259; (or acum sunt jude&#539;e &#238;ntregi unde nu po&#539;i face deloc colonoscopie).</p><p>Screeningul are o particularitate, spune dr. Ungurean, aceea c&#259; presupune &#537;i mai mult&#259; responsabilitate din punct profesional, &#537;i abilit&#259;&#539;i peste medie:</p><div class="pullquote"><p>&#8222;Screeningul trebuie s&#259; vad&#259; tumorile mici. Niciunde &#238;n lume, &#238;n timpul reziden&#539;iatului, un doctor nu este preg&#259;tit s&#259; caute tumorile mici. Tinerii speciali&#537;ti sunt &#238;nv&#259;&#539;a&#539;i s&#259; vad&#259; tumorile mari, cu at&#226;t mai mult cu c&#226;t la noi acestea se diagnosticheaz&#259; cel mai des, pentru c&#259; oamenii vin &#238;n stadii avansate de boal&#259;.&#8221;</p></div><p><strong>O mamografie de screening, de exemplu, ar trebui interpretat&#259; de doi medici care au v&#259;zut cel pu&#539;in 2.000 de mamografii pe an.</strong> &#206;n plus, toate investiga&#539;iile de screening ar trebui auditate &#8211; adic&#259; reverificate periodic &#537;i prin sondaj, ca s&#259; vezi dac&#259; rezultatele sunt corecte.</p><p>De aceea spuneam c&#259; nu orice spital poate face investiga&#539;ii de screening.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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/__u/sorana.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/sorana.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/sorana.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/sorana.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8730a1a2-2cfd-4732-a699-35c7535c475c_1200x800.heic 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 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zero).</p><p>Acum avem vreo 10 pe colonoscopie &#537;i 10 pe mamografie, spune dr. Ungurean, &#537;i ar fi suficient cam unul pe jude&#539; (unul pe s&#226;n, unul pe col, unul pe colorect), pentru capacitatea de screening pe care o avem acum.</p><p><em>***Vreau s&#259; specific c&#259; nu colonoscopia este instrumentul </em>default<em> de screening &#238;n cancerul de col, ci testul FIT, dar colonoscopia este pasul urm&#259;tor obligatoriu, dac&#259; apare vreo suspiciune la FIT.</em></p><h2><strong>Slovenia</strong></h2><p>Slovenia este unul dintre cazurile de bun&#259; practic&#259; recunoscut&#259; de OMS &#238;n materie de screening, at&#226;t din punct de vedere al ratei de participare, c&#226;t &#537;i al rezultatelor, &#537;i folose&#537;te sistemul pe care &#537;i Rom&#226;nia &#537;i l-ar dori: registre de screening, cu sistemul invitare-reinvitare &#537;i servicii accesibile &#537;i de calitate pe tot traseul, de la preven&#539;ie, la tratament &#537;i follow-up.</p><p><strong>De aproximativ 20 de ani are trei programe func&#539;ionale:</strong> pentru cancerul de s&#226;n, cervical &#537;i colorectal, fiecare cu registrul lui, &#537;i acum evalueaz&#259; introducerea a dou&#259; noi programe: pentru cancerul de pl&#259;m&#226;ni &#537;i de prostat&#259;.</p><div class="pullquote"><p>&#8222;&#206;n cancerul cervical, de la 27 de noi cazuri la 100.000 de persoane, am ajuns la 6 &#537;i trebuie s&#259; sc&#259;dem sub 4 pentru a atinge &#539;inta de eliminare a OMS&#8221;, mi-a explicat dr. Ur&#353;ka Ivanu&#353;, coordonatoarea programului de screening. &#8222;Nu &#537;tim exact c&#226;nd, acum facem calculele, dar credem c&#259; vom fi printre primii din Europa.&#8221;</p></div><p>Foarte important: <strong>screeningul a &#238;nceput regional &#537;i de abia apoi s-a extins na&#539;ional</strong>, pentru c&#259; au vrut s&#259; fie siguri c&#259; fac lucrurile cum trebuie &#537;i c&#259; acele criterii de calitate sunt respectate cu sfin&#539;enie. Doar a&#537;a ob&#539;ii date reale &#537;i relevante, respectiv &#238;ncrederea popula&#539;iei &#537;i a medicilor. Or, dac&#259; &#238;ncepi prost, &#537;ansele s&#259; te redresezi din mers sunt infime.</p><p><em><a href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/screeningul-pentru-cancer-in-romania">Mergi la articolul complet pentru detalii despre ce face bine Slovenia.</a></em></p><blockquote><p>Iar &#238;n cur&#226;nd voi publica interviuri integrale cu coordonatoarele programelor de screening pentru cancerul de col &#537;i de s&#226;n, &#537;i unul cu coordonatoarea registrului de cancer, pe care Slovenia &#238;l are de 70(!) de ani.</p></blockquote><h2><strong><br>Ar putea avea &#537;i Rom&#226;nia a&#537;a ceva?</strong></h2><p>R&#259;spunsul scurt este: da.</p><p>R&#259;spunsul mai lung este: da, dar registrele acestea sau infrastructura digital&#259; nu sunt suficiente, pentru c&#259; exist&#259; mai multe piese de puzzle: </p><ul><li><p>oamenii s&#259; &#238;n&#539;eleag&#259; ce e screeningul, de ce primesc scrisoarea aia acas&#259; &#537;i c&#259; nu &#238;i cost&#259; nimic;</p></li><li><p>INSP s&#259; impun&#259; standarde de calitate pentru efectuarea &#537;i interpretarea acestor investiga&#539;ii (practic, ar trebui s&#259; fii mai sigur de rezultat dec&#226;t dac&#259; te duci tu acum s&#259; faci o mamografie la o clinic&#259; oarecare);</p></li><li><p>s&#259; fie spitale care s&#259; poat&#259; &#537;i s&#259; vrea s&#259; intre &#238;n program (adic&#259;: aparatur&#259; la standarde, sisteme eficiente de programare, medici dispu&#537;i s&#259; se specializeze continuu &#537;i chiar s&#259; lucreze &#238;n plus); </p></li><li><p>sistemul s&#259; poat&#259; prelua imediat pentru diagnosticare &#537;i tratament oamenii cu suspiciune de cancer &#238;n urma screeningului;</p></li><li><p>(nu &#238;n ultimul r&#226;nd) oamenii s&#259; aib&#259; mijloace ca s&#259; ajung&#259;, fizic, s&#259; fac&#259; testele astea: drumuri, transport public pe care s&#259; &#537;i-l poat&#259; permite.</p></li></ul><p>E nevoie de voin&#539;&#259; conjugat&#259;, dup&#259; cum spuneam mai sus, iar pentru asta trebuie convinse anumite straturi de decizie, administrative &#537;i politice.</p><p><strong>&#8222;Practic, trebuie s&#259; le vinzi visul&#8221;, a rezumat Radu Puchiu.</strong></p><p>Visul &#537;i standardele, a&#537; ad&#259;uga eu.</p><p>Pentru c&#259;, &#238;n absen&#539;a unor registre func&#539;ionale, sub presiunea public&#259; &#537;i politic&#259; de a face screening, exist&#259; riscul ca el s&#259; se desf&#259;&#537;oare de-a valma, f&#259;r&#259; criterii de calitate &#537;i f&#259;r&#259; trasabilitate, &#537;i lumea &#8211; inclusiv personalul medical &#8211; s&#259; &#238;n&#539;eleag&#259; c&#259; a&#537;a se face.</p><p>Iar c&#226;nd unor oameni li se va spune ba c&#259; au cancer, de&#537;i nu au, ba c&#259; sunt s&#259;n&#259;to&#537;i, de&#537;i nu sunt, &#238;ncrederea tuturor se va pr&#259;bu&#537;i &#537;i nu vom reu&#537;i niciodat&#259; s&#259; salv&#259;m vie&#539;ile care ar putea fi salvate, dar&#259;mite s&#259; ne apropiem de &#539;intele dorite de OMS.</p><p><em>Material realizat &#238;n proiectul &#8222;DigITup&#8221; derulat de Centrul pentru Jurnalism Independent (CJI), cu sus&#539;inerea EDGE.</em></p><div class="captioned-button-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/p/avem-doar-13-specialisti-pentru-politicile?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="CaptionedButtonToDOM"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">&#536;tiu, n-a fost cel mai u&#537;urel articol. Dar e nevoie &#537;i de astfel de analize, ca s&#259; &#238;n&#539;elegem ce ne lipse&#537;te, dar &#537;i ce avem deja &#238;n sistem.</p></div><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/p/avem-doar-13-specialisti-pentru-politicile?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/avem-doar-13-specialisti-pentru-politicile?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p></div><div><hr></div><h3><strong>&#536;i acum recomand&#259;rile / ve&#537;tile bune pe care le promiteam la &#238;nceput:</strong></h3><ul><li><p><a href="https://instaredebine.ro/apel-de-proiecte-2025-in-stare-sa-ajut/?fbclid=IwY2xjawLAng1leHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETBwb01pcDBRbjk0T0NETFg3AR7sCDkeeP6El2zsHOXCJSC9D08zsMFl8LX9l_G7tNSfnY8Z5wiOSG-ajfu0kw_aem_YK7vE_F2kOifC0udCdGKxg">Finan&#539;&#259;ri pentru proiecte care sprijin&#259; s&#259;n&#259;tatea emo&#539;ional&#259;</a> a tinerilor din rural &#537;i ora&#537;e mici, derulate de FDSC. 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Metodologia ar trebui s&#259; se finalizeze cur&#226;nd &#537;i va fi publicat&#259; pe site-ul <a href="https://assmb.ro/">ASSMB</a>.</p></li><li><p>C&#226;te <a href="https://buletin.de/bucuresti/femeile-singure-infertile/?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email">15.000 de lei pentru 2.000 de cupluri/femei singure</a> din Bucure&#537;ti care vor s&#259; fac&#259; o procedur&#259; de fertilizare in vitro. Detalii vor veni tot de la ASSMB.</p></li><li><p><a href="https://smartliving.ro/centre-rezidentiale-pentru-dependente-romania-ce-optiuni-exista-si-cum-functioneaza/?fbclid=IwY2xjawK_Wt5leHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETBwb01pcDBRbjk0T0NETFg3AR6Y8mc9OLUdwd33-zHmtq2JEoDfbxuGoHHlcn2bFdxRgRwrNn1FE3_8UDHvjA_aem_DMwvFw2m-SzV3lfii9bjcw">O list&#259; a centrelor de tratare a adic&#539;iilor</a>, centralizat&#259; de publica&#539;ia Smart Living.</p></li></ul><p>&#127958;&#65039; &#536;i o ultim&#259; recomandare, mai &#8222;frivol&#259;&#8221;, dar super-util&#259;: <a href="https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2023/06/04/1179542293/picking-the-right-sunscreen-isnt-as-important-as-avoiding-these-6-mistakes?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email">cum s&#259; aplici corect crema de plaj&#259;</a> (&#238;n englez&#259;). Esen&#539;ial: s&#259; te dai la fiecare dou&#259; ore e mai important dec&#226;t un factor de protec&#539;ie mai mare de 30.</p><div><hr></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tV2v!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3edcf12c-e09e-4c0b-86f6-652405f35bb8_894x1140.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tV2v!, /__u/sorana.substack.com/w_424, /__u/sorana.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/sorana.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/sorana.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/sorana.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3edcf12c-e09e-4c0b-86f6-652405f35bb8_894x1140.jpeg 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tV2v!, /__u/sorana.substack.com/w_848, 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Glumesc, nici pe departe. Dar Comisia European&#259; m-a selectat ca s&#259; promovez screeningul &#238;n cancerul de s&#226;n, parte a unei <a href="https://cancer-screening.campaign.europa.eu/index_en">campanii mai largi</a><a href="https://www.facebook.com/sorana.stanescu/posts/pfbid0AfHfQ8weoGWn7YkNm5N6Dj7UzyRQow5XvUbknEFd3i51DKJ1VPtvvQFRpZjJLLq8l">. Aici o postare despre asta</a>. Vor urma &#537;i altele, plus un interviu video cu unul dintre cei mai buni senologi din Rom&#226;nia.</p><p>Mul&#539;umesc, ne citim luna viitoare.</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Screeningul pentru cancer în România, un puzzle]]></title><description><![CDATA[Am crezut c&#259; digitalizarea lipse&#537;te, dar am descoperit c&#259; trebuie s&#259; le vinzi deciden&#539;ilor visul &#537;i medicilor &#8211; standardele.]]></description><link>https://sorana.substack.com/p/screeningul-pentru-cancer-in-romania</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://sorana.substack.com/p/screeningul-pentru-cancer-in-romania</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Sorana Stănescu]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2025 12:01:56 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bAVI!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8c01e489-0d94-4b4c-9c71-944aedf8fd16_2450x1158.heic" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rom&#226;nia este pe primul loc &#238;n UE la decese din cauze care ar fi putut fi tratate &#537;i pe antepenultimul &#8211; din cauze ce ar fi putut fi prevenite. &#536;i prin &#8222;cauze&#8221; spun boli. </p><p>De exemplu, cancerul de pl&#259;m&#226;ni este &#537;i prevenibil, &#537;i tratabil, dar cancerul de s&#226;n &#8211; doar &#8222;tratabil&#8221;, pentru c&#259; nu poate fi prevenit. Adic&#259; nici nu prevenim &#537;i nu depist&#259;m la timp, &#537;i nici nu reu&#537;im s&#259; salv&#259;m vie&#539;i. Una o determin&#259; pe cealalt&#259;, p&#226;n&#259; la un punct, iar cauzele &#539;in de sistemul medical, dar &#537;i de stilul de via&#539;&#259; &#537;i de poluare &#8211; &#238;ntr-o m&#259;sur&#259; mult mai mare dec&#226;t vrem s&#259; recunoa&#537;tem.</p><p>Cu toate astea, nu facem aproape nimic pentru preven&#539;ie &#8211; nici individual, nici ca &#539;ar&#259;, de&#537;i preven&#539;ia este cea mai cost-eficace m&#259;sur&#259; &#238;n orice stat, &#537;i asta se poate calcula matematic. Investi&#539;iile &#238;n preven&#539;ie &#238;ncep s&#259; se vad&#259; dup&#259; 4-6 ani, deci e nevoie de viziune pe termen lung, de resurse &#537;i de un efort conjugat &#238;ntre institu&#539;ii, &#537;i &#238;ntre institu&#539;ii &#537;i popula&#539;ie.</p><p>O component&#259; a preven&#539;iei este screeningul, care &#238;nseamn&#259; c&#259; persoane s&#259;n&#259;toase, f&#259;r&#259; simptome, fac anumite investiga&#539;ii &#238;n mod regulat, pentru a depista riscul sau probabilitatea unei afec&#539;iuni. Pot s&#259; fac&#259; testele respective pe cont propriu (caz &#238;n care vorbim de screening &#8222;oportunist&#8221;) sau &#238;n cadrul unui program na&#539;ional organizat (&#537;i atunci vorbim de screening &#8222;popula&#539;ional&#8221;).</p><p>Dup&#259; ce <a href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/cum-sa-ti-depistezi-riscul-de-cancer">am scris aici pe larg despre investiga&#539;iile de screening</a> pentru mai multe tipuri de cancer, am vrut s&#259; v&#259;d <strong>ce ar presupune crearea &#238;n Rom&#226;nia a unui sistem de screening popula&#539;ional al cancerului</strong>, plec&#226;nd de la procedura de invitare-reinvitare, pe care multe state europene o practic&#259; (asta &#238;nseamn&#259; c&#259;, atunci c&#226;nd ajungi la v&#226;rsta eligibil&#259; pentru screening, prime&#537;ti acas&#259; o scrisoare cu recomandarea de a face investiga&#539;ia necesar&#259;, gratuit: mamografie, test FIT sau testare HPV &#537;i lista centrelor din apropiere unde s&#259; mergi). </p><p>Credeam c&#259; e o chestiune de GDPR, de bani &#537;i de sisteme informatice complicate &#238;ntre institu&#539;ii, dar am g&#259;sit o realitate mult mai complex&#259;. (Da, GDPR-ul a fost invocat &#238;n trecut de unele autorit&#259;&#539;i ca piedic&#259;, de&#537;i &#238;n nicio alt&#259; &#539;ar&#259; european&#259; nu s-a &#238;nt&#226;mplat asta.)</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bAVI!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8c01e489-0d94-4b4c-9c71-944aedf8fd16_2450x1158.heic" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bAVI!, /__u/sorana.substack.com/w_424, /__u/sorana.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/sorana.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/sorana.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/sorana.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8c01e489-0d94-4b4c-9c71-944aedf8fd16_2450x1158.heic 424w, 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/__u/sorana.substack.com/w_1456, /__u/sorana.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/sorana.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/sorana.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/sorana.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8c01e489-0d94-4b4c-9c71-944aedf8fd16_2450x1158.heic 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><a href="https://health.ec.europa.eu/document/download/1e23af78-d146-4c84-be77-690fc6044655_en?filename=2024_healthatglance_rep_en.pdf">sursa: Raport OECD 2024</a></figcaption></figure></div><h2><strong><br>Povara cancerului &#238;n Rom&#226;nia</strong></h2><p><a href="https://www.oecd.org/content/dam/oecd/ro/publications/reports/2023/02/eu-country-cancer-profile-romania-2023_b7601b86/20726aa6-ro.pdf">Cu 19% din total</a>, cancerul este a doua cauza&#774; principala&#774; de deces i&#770;n Roma&#770;nia, dupa&#774; bolile cardiovasculare, &#238;n condi&#539;iile &#238;n care (unele tipuri de) cancer sunt singurele afec&#539;iuni pentru care se poate face screening (am explicat <a href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/cum-sa-ti-depistezi-riscul-de-cancer">tot aici</a> care sunt criteriile).</p><p>Num&#259;rul celor se vor &#238;mboln&#259;vi de cancer de-a lungul vie&#539;ii cre&#537;te peste tot &#238;n lume, ceea ce &#238;nseamn&#259; ani de via&#539;&#259; pierdu&#539;i, dar &#537;i costuri enorme pentru sistemele de s&#259;n&#259;tate.</p><p>Dintre toate tipurile de cancer, <a href="https://insp.gov.ro/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/Infografic-HPV-2025-scaled.jpg">cel de col este complet prevenibil</a> &#537;i, de aceea, Organiza&#539;ia Mondial&#259; a S&#259;n&#259;t&#259;&#539;ii (OMS) &#537;i-a propus eliminarea lui ca problem&#259; de s&#259;n&#259;tate public&#259;. Pentru asta, fiecare &#539;ar&#259; ar trebui s&#259; &#238;ndeplineasc&#259; <a href="https://insp.gov.ro/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Analiza-de-situatie-cancer-de-col-uterin-2024.pdf">c&#226;teva &#539;inte p&#226;n&#259; &#238;n 2030:</a> </p><ul><li><p>90% din fetele p&#226;n&#259; &#238;n 15 ani s&#259; fie vaccinate HPV;</p></li><li><p>70% dintre femeile de 35-45 de ani s&#259; participe la screening;</p></li><li><p>90% dintre femeile cu cancer sau leziuni pre-canceroase s&#259; aib&#259; acces la tratament, inclusiv paliativ &#8211; ni&#537;te &#539;inte care mi se par imposibil de atins pentru noi.</p></li></ul><p>Spre compara&#539;ie, noi avem cam <a href="https://hotnews.ro/cifrele-ingrozitoare-despre-care-statul-nu-vorbeste-desi-romania-ofera-unul-dintre-cele-mai-generoase-programe-de-vaccinare-impotriva-cancerului-din-europa-cele-mai-recente-date-socheaza-1938231">8% popula&#539;ie vaccinat&#259; HPV</a> (de&#537;i &#537;i cifrele astea sunt discutabile) &#537;i doar 30% dintre femei care s&#259; fi f&#259;cut screening pentru cancerul de col (<a href="https://www.oecd.org/content/dam/oecd/ro/publications/reports/2023/02/eu-country-cancer-profile-romania-2023_b7601b86/20726aa6-ro.pdf">conform unui raport al Comisiei Europene &#537;i OECD pe 2023</a>), unde 30% reprezint&#259; declara&#539;iile femeilor, pentru c&#259; date centralizate nu avem.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yCBC!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd99e1f57-5620-4627-9142-700fd656dcba_1200x866.heic" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yCBC!, /__u/sorana.substack.com/w_424, /__u/sorana.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/sorana.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/sorana.substack.com/q_auto:good, 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/__u/sorana.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/sorana.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/sorana.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/sorana.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd99e1f57-5620-4627-9142-700fd656dcba_1200x866.heic 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 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data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/subscribe"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><h2><strong><br>Unde suntem la capitolul screening</strong></h2><p>Nu avem programe popula&#539;ionale &#238;n vigoare, dar <strong>investiga&#539;iile pentru cele trei tipuri de cancer pentru care se poate face screening (de col, de s&#226;n &#537;i colorectal) sunt acoperite de Casa de S&#259;n&#259;tate, &#238;n cadrul pachetului de analize de preven&#539;ie, at&#226;t pentru asigura&#539;i, c&#226;t &#537;i pentru neasigura&#539;i</strong> (<a href="https://cnas.ro/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Ghidul-asiguratului-editia-3.pdf">detalii &#238;n Ghidul Asiguratului</a>).</p><p>Chiar &#537;i a&#537;a, procesul e greoi &#537;i mai nimeni nu &#238;l &#537;tie: e nevoie de consult &#537;i de bilet de trimitere de la medicul de familie, program&#259;rile se ob&#539;in greu (aproape imposibil &#238;n cazul mamografiei), standardele de calitate nu sunt unitare &#537;i datele nu se centralizeaz&#259; nic&#259;ieri.</p><blockquote><p>Pe de alt&#259; parte, screening &#8222;popula&#539;ional&#8221; nu &#238;nseamn&#259; doar c&#259; vizeaz&#259; toate persoanele eligibile, ci c&#259; se respect&#259; <a href="https://cancer-code-europe.iarc.fr/index.php/ro/12-modalitati/screeningul/3620-ghiduri-europene-pentru-asigurarea-calitatii-in-screeningul-pentru-cancer">ni&#537;te criterii de calitate</a> foarte clare, stabilite de Consiliul Uniunii Europene &#238;n 2023, cum ar fi metodele &#537;i tipul de aparate folosite, dar &#537;i nivelul de instruire a medicilor.</p></blockquote><p>Rom&#226;nia are 13 angaja&#539;i care se ocup&#259; de tot ce &#238;nseamn&#259; screening &#238;n cadrul Institutului Na&#539;ional de S&#259;n&#259;tate Public&#259; (INSP), institu&#539;ia responsabil&#259;: ei elaboreaz&#259; metodologii de screening, ei particip&#259; &#238;n diferite grupuri de lucru la nivelul UE (pentru c&#259; recomand&#259;rile sunt &#238;n continu&#259; dinamic&#259;), ei se ocup&#259;, par&#539;ial, &#537;i de implementare. &#536;i tot ei ar fi responsabili de crearea unui sistem popula&#539;ional de screening &#537;i a registrelor aferente.</p><p>Spre compara&#539;ie, Slovenia, una dintre &#539;&#259;rile cele mai eficiente &#238;n materie de screening din Europa, are &#238;n jur de 50 de persoane care se ocup&#259; de managementul celor trei programe: s&#226;n, col &#537;i colorect, la o popula&#539;ie mai mic&#259; dec&#226;t a Bucure&#537;tiului.</p><p>A&#537; vrea &#238;ns&#259; s&#259; subliniez c&#259; nu e vorba doar de lips&#259; de capacitate administrativ&#259;, ci de lips&#259; de voin&#539;&#259;, inclusiv politic&#259; &#537;i la nivelul sistemului sanitar. &#8222;E un proces la care trebuie s&#259; pun&#259; to&#539;i um&#259;rul&#8221;, afirm&#259; dr. Carmen Ungurean, coordonator preven&#539;ie &#537;i screening la INSP.</p><div class="pullquote"><p> &#8222;C&#226;nd vorbim la conferin&#539;e, la workshop-uri, la Parlament: <em>cancerul este o prioritate, programele de screening sunt o prioritate</em>, Rom&#226;nia trebuie s&#259; decid&#259; dac&#259; sunt realmente o prioritate &#537;i atunci fiecare s&#259; pun&#259; um&#259;rul &#537;i s&#259; trag&#259; &#238;n aceea&#537;i direc&#539;ie. Lucrurile durabile se fac cu voin&#539;&#259; proprie, cu convingere &#537;i cu ata&#537;ament fa&#539;&#259; de cauza respectiv&#259;.&#8221; (dr. Ungurean)</p></div><h2><strong>Ce este sistemul invitare-reinvitare?</strong></h2><p>Tot INSP ar trebui s&#259; fac&#259; sistemul invitare-reinvitare la screening, de care vorbeam mai sus. </p><blockquote><p>De aici am plecat eu documentarea: de la convingerea c&#259;, dac&#259; am avea acest sistem, dac&#259; am &#537;ti cu nume, prenume &#537;i adres&#259; unde st&#259; fiecare om care ar trebui s&#259; fac&#259; un test de screening, nu am mai muri at&#226;t de mul&#539;i din cauza unor forme de cancer prevenibil sau tratabil &#238;n forme incipiente.</p><p>Doar c&#259; sistemul acesta, care exist&#259; &#537;i func&#539;ioneaz&#259; &#238;n alte &#539;&#259;ri, e doar o parte din tot ecosistemul de screening, mi-am dat seama repede, &#537;i ar trebui s&#259; &#238;nceap&#259; cu educa&#539;ia (popula&#539;iei, dar &#537;i a personalului medical) &#537;i s&#259; mearg&#259; p&#226;n&#259; la diagnosticare, tratament &#537;i monitorizare ulterioar&#259;.</p></blockquote><p>De exemplu, p&#226;n&#259; la a trimite o scrisoare acas&#259;, INSP ar trebui s&#259; aib&#259; <strong>un registru de screening</strong>, adic&#259; &#8222;baza de date &#238;n baza c&#259;reia faci scrisoarea &#537;i &#238;n care &#238;nregistrezi sistematic dac&#259; persoana s-a prezentat la screening, ce rezultat a avut, dac&#259; a mers mai departe, dac&#259; a primit programare &#537;i p&#226;n&#259; intr&#259; &#238;n tratament&#8221;, mi-a explicat dr. Ungurean. Mai simplu, trebuie s&#259; &#537;tii cui s&#259; trimi&#539;i scrisoarea, acum &#537;i data viitoare c&#226;nd &#238;i vine r&#226;ndul.</p><p>Rom&#226;nia nu are un registru de screening la nivel na&#539;ional, are unele regionale pe hepatit&#259; &#537;i cancer colorectal, create cu ocazia unor programe de screening pilot, cu bani europeni, care au avut loc p&#226;n&#259; &#238;n 2023. Ca idee, proiectul de registru pentru cancerul colorectal a &#238;nceput &#238;n 2020, cu pixul pe trei foi A4 pe care dr. Ungurean &#238;nc&#259; le are &#238;n cabinet.</p><p><strong>Cum s-a &#238;nt&#226;mplat?</strong> <a href="https://insp.gov.ro/2023/10/24/comunicat-de-presa-conferinta-screeningul-pentru-cancerul-colorectal/">Proiectul pilot pe cancerul colorectal</a> s-a desf&#259;&#537;urat &#238;n patru regiuni &#537;i a vizat 200.000 de oameni, dintr-un total de 2-3 milioane eligibili, cu scopul de a testa viabilitatea unui poten&#539;ial program na&#539;ional &#537;i de a &#238;ncepe aceste registre, pentru care altfel probabil c&#259; nu ar fi fost bani.</p><p>Datele au fost introduse de medicii de familie coopta&#539;i &#238;n acest program pilot (deci &#8222;de jos &#238;n sus&#8221;), iar oamenii au primit acas&#259; o scrisoare de invitare, a&#537;adar aceast&#259; metod&#259; a fost deja testat&#259; &#537;i la noi. Apoi au mers la medic s&#259; ia o trus&#259; de testare FIT (o analiz&#259; care depisteaz&#259; hemoragii &#238;n materiile fecale, investiga&#539;ia standard &#238;n screeningul acestui tip de cancer).</p><p>90% au &#537;i dus testul &#238;napoi pentru laborator, ceea ce este foarte bine, &#238;ns&#259; numai 60% au acceptat s&#259; fac&#259; colonoscopia (acolo unde testul FIT a ar&#259;tat c&#259; e nevoie), ceea ce este pu&#539;in. </p><p>&#8222;&#536;i asta &#238;n condi&#539;iile &#238;n care am avut parteneri ONG-uri care le-au explicat oamenilor de ce e bine s&#259; fac&#259; screening&#8221;, a spus dr. Ungurean, &#8222;&#537;i care i-au &#537;i transportat la spital pentru colonoscopie, ceea ce nu este un model sustenabil&#8221;.</p><p>&#8222;Pe de alt&#259; parte, ne-am dat seama <strong>c&#226;t de dependent este sistemul de screening de infrastructura de transport a Rom&#226;niei</strong>.&#8221; Trebuie s&#259; ai mijloace de transport accesibile, directe, s&#259; nu pl&#259;te&#537;ti din buzunar &#8222;la ocazie&#8221;, &#537;i tot e un efort (c&#226;nd faci colonoscopie, de exemplu, e&#537;ti sl&#259;bit pentru c&#259; nu ai avut voie s&#259; m&#259;n&#226;nci multe ore &#238;nainte, ai b&#259;ut ni&#537;te substan&#539;e ca s&#259;-&#539;i gole&#537;ti intestinele, iar la &#238;ntoarcere, e&#537;ti destul de ame&#539;it dup&#259; anestezie). Deci <strong>infrastructura e alt&#259; buc&#259;&#539;ic&#259; din puzzle-ul numit screening.</strong></p><p>Acest registru par&#539;ial pentru cancerul colorectal e activ &#238;n continuare &#537;i a fost updatat <em>in house</em> de INSP astfel &#238;nc&#226;t s&#259; poat&#259; fi ad&#259;ugat&#259; toat&#259; popula&#539;ia eligibil&#259; a Rom&#226;niei &#537;i s&#259; poat&#259; completa &#238;n el to&#539;i furnizorii medicali, nu doar cei care au luat parte la proiectul pilot.</p><p>Sistemul de invitare-reinvitare ar presupune &#537;i ni&#537;te <em>remindere</em>, dac&#259; omul nu vine: studiile arat&#259; c&#259; primul reminder cre&#537;te rata de participare cu 15 - 20%, al doilea &#8211; cu 5-6%, iar al treilea e cam inutil. &#206;n plus, dr. Ungurean ar vrea s&#259; creeze &#537;i un call center unde s&#259; prime&#537;ti informa&#539;ii &#238;n plus fa&#539;&#259; de scrisoare, pentru c&#259; <strong>&#238;n&#539;elegerea &#537;i educarea sunt cheia f&#259;r&#259; de care niciun program de screening nu va avea succes</strong>.</p><p> &#8222;Trebuie s&#259; ai ni&#537;te canale complementare &#537;i suplimentare de informare a popula&#539;iei, &#537;i &#259;sta e &#537;i el un proces&#8221;, spune ea. &#8222;Trebuie s&#259; ajungem p&#226;n&#259; &#238;ntr-acolo unde oamenii se vor sesiza singuri: <em>au trecut doi ani, nu ar trebui s&#259; primesc scrisoarea s&#259; fac testul FIT?</em>&#8221;</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Foaia de observa&#539;ie este un proiect independent, f&#259;r&#259; un finan&#539;ator &#537;i f&#259;r&#259; publicitate. Dac&#259; astfel de analize &#539;i se par importante, sus&#539;ine-m&#259; cu un abonament pl&#259;tit.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h2><strong><br>Ce presupune crearea unui program de screening pentru cancer?</strong></h2><p>&#206;n primul r&#226;nd, presupune crearea &#8222;flow-ului&#8221;, adic&#259; designul sistemului: care e scopul, ce trebuie s&#259; se &#238;nt&#226;mple, pe etape, cine e responsabil pentru fiecare etap&#259;, de ce resurse e nevoie, cum sunt asigurate criteriile de calitate, cum sunt analizate datele.</p><p>Din punct de vedere &#8222;tehnic&#8221;, are dou&#259; mari componente: <strong>registre na&#539;ionale</strong>, care ar cuprinde toat&#259; popula&#539;ia eligibil&#259; (sunt mai multe, pentru c&#259; ar fi unul pentru fiecare tip de cancer), &#537;i <strong>infrastructura digital&#259; necesar&#259; </strong>(adic&#259; softul/aplica&#539;ia &#238;n sine).</p><p>La r&#226;ndul s&#259;u, registrele ar trebui interconectate cu dou&#259; baze mari de date: cea popula&#539;ional&#259;, pe care o administreaz&#259; <a href="https://depabd.mai.gov.ro/">Direc&#539;ia General&#259; pentru Eviden&#539;a Popula&#539;iei</a> (ceea ce se poate, dar <strong>e nevoie de o lege</strong>), &#537;i registrul pacien&#539;ilor care au deja cancer (&#537;i care nu exist&#259;): &#8222;Pe de o parte, elimini din lista persoanelor eligibile pe cele deja diagnosticate&#8221;, spune dr. Ungurean. &#8222;Pe de alt&#259; parte, registrul de screening devine una din sursele de informa&#539;ii a registrului de cancer, pentru c&#259;, odat&#259; diagnostica&#539;i, oamenii ajung acolo&#8221;. </p><blockquote><p>Chiar dac&#259; nu avem &#238;nc&#259; un registru de cancer, are sens s&#259; &#238;ncepem unul de screening, pentru c&#259; sunt multe alte lucruri de monitorizat.</p></blockquote><p>Pentru a ob&#539;ine &#537;i folosi date de la Eviden&#539;a Popula&#539;iei, e nevoie &#238;n primul r&#226;nd de o lege, mi-a explicat directorul general, chestorul C&#259;t&#259;lin Giulescu, care s&#259; detalieze necesitatea cre&#259;rii &#537;i condi&#539;iile de operare ale acestor registre de screening. </p><p>Adic&#259;: ce informa&#539;ii va folosi INSP, cu ce scop, cu ce limite, ce date vor veni de la Eviden&#539;a Popula&#539;iei, cine va avea acces la date, faptul c&#259; nu e nevoie de consim&#539;&#259;m&#226;ntul persoanei pentru a fi inclus&#259; &#238;n registru &#537;i ce se &#238;nt&#226;mpl&#259; dac&#259; cineva cere radierea din registru. </p><blockquote><p>Chestorul Giulescu e de p&#259;rere c&#259; n-ar trebui s&#259; i se permit&#259;, pentru c&#259; &#238;ntr-un stat democratic reglementarea drepturilor presupune &#537;i afectarea lor &#8211; adic&#259;, dac&#259; &#238;i dai unui om dreptul la screening &#537;i tratament gratuit, n-ar trebui s&#259;-i dai dreptul s&#259; fie &#537;ters din registru. &#8222;Noi (Ministerul Afacerilor Interne) o s&#259; sus&#539;inem proiectul de act normativ&#8221;, a mai spus Giulescu.</p></blockquote><p>Nu e neobi&#537;nuit s&#259; fie nevoie de o lege pentru asta, av&#226;nd &#238;n vedere c&#259; se utilizeaz&#259; date cu caracter personal &#537;i date medicale. Toate &#539;&#259;rile care folosesc acest sistem de screening au o astfel de baz&#259; legal&#259; &#537;i nic&#259;ieri nu s-a pus problema c&#259; ar &#238;nc&#259;lca GDPR. Cea mai important&#259; &#238;ns&#259; e logica sistemului, iar asta trebuie s&#259; vin&#259; de la INSP. C&#226;t despre hosting, Giulescu sugereaz&#259; s&#259; fie pe cloudul guvernamental, gestionat de STS, &#537;i asta ar rezolva problema securit&#259;&#539;ii datelor &#537;i conectivit&#259;&#539;ii, spune el.</p><p>Din punct de vedere tehnic, e impropriu s&#259; spui c&#259; INSP &#8222;va avea acces la baza de date popula&#539;ional&#259;&#8221;, pentru c&#259; asta ar &#238;nc&#259;lca protec&#539;ia datelor. Dar anumite seturi de date pot fi gestionate &#537;i de alte autorit&#259;&#539;i publice, odat&#259; ce sunt reglementate scopul &#537;i necesitatea (deci legea de mai sus). </p><p>Concret, mi-a explicat Giulescu, INSP ar trebui s&#259; cear&#259; categorii de popula&#539;ie, cu nume &#537;i prenume, &#238;n func&#539;ie de v&#226;rst&#259; &#537;i gen &#537;i, &#238;n momentul &#238;n care chiar vrea s&#259; trimit&#259; scrisoarea de invitare, s&#259; cear&#259; &#537;i domiciliul &#8211; &#537;i asta pentru c&#259; domiciliul se tot modific&#259;. &#8222;Anumite date sunt perisabile &#537;i trebuie actualizate permanent. Dac&#259; n-ai nevoie de ele la un anumit moment, mai bine nu le &#539;ii.&#8221;</p><h2><strong><br>Infrastructura digital&#259;</strong></h2><p>Acum, INSP are un mic departament de IT &#537;i statistic&#259; in house &#537;i c&#226;&#539;iva speciali&#537;ti IT cu care colaboreaz&#259; de mul&#539;i ani &#537;i care au &#238;n&#539;eles nevoile &#537;i particularit&#259;&#539;ile INSP &#537;i, cel mai important, au &#238;n&#539;eles c&#259; asemenea registre nu sunt un proiect pe termen determinat, ci sunt <em>ongoing </em>&#537;i au nevoie permanent&#259; de upgrade. </p><p>Ei sunt cei administreaz&#259; actualele registre pe hepatit&#259; &#537;i cancer colorectal, cele din proiectele pilot.</p><p>Mult timp, c&#226;nd m&#259; g&#226;ndeam la un sistem de screening digitalizat, m&#259; g&#226;ndeam automat la ni&#537;te aplica&#539;ii informatice foarte scumpe &#537;i complicate &#537;i credeam c&#259; ele sunt solu&#539;ia, dar nu e a&#537;a, mi-a explicat <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/puchiu/?originalSubdomain=ro">Radu Puchiu</a>, expert &#238;n crearea de aplica&#539;ii &#537;i platforme digitale la intersec&#539;ia dintre sectorul public &#537;i societatea civil&#259;.</p><div class="pullquote"><p>Un asemenea sistem se poate face chiar in house, dar &#8222;tenta&#539;ia e foarte mare s&#259; pui uneltele &#238;naintea proceselor&#8221;, spune el, dup&#259; 10 ani de lucru &#238;n sectorul public. &#8222;Digitalizarea nu e despre crearea unui soft de&#537;tept, ci despre accelerare, simplificare, amplificare&#8221;.</p></div><p>&#206;nt&#226;i de toate, &#238;&#539;i trebuie claritate din punct de vedere legal, institu&#539;ional &#537;i la nivel de procese, trebuie s&#259; g&#226;nde&#537;ti un <em><strong>user journey</strong></em>, un soi de &#8222;<em>if... then</em>&#8221;, at&#226;t din punct de vedere al cet&#259;&#539;eanului (am primit scrisoarea asta, ce fac acum?), c&#226;t &#537;i al medicului &#537;i al coordonatorului programului la INSP.</p><p>&#536;i &#238;&#539;i mai trebuie <strong>un anumit tip de leadership</strong>: un coordonator din interiorul INSP cu legitimitate, care s&#259; fac&#259; din asta o misiune, f&#259;r&#259; s&#259; mai aib&#259; alte atribu&#539;ii. &#8222;Nu poate s&#259; fie cineva care deja face 10 lucruri, i-l dau pe al 11-lea &#537;i &#238;i spun c&#259; e prioritar&#8221;, spune el. &#8222;Nu o s&#259; func&#539;ioneze a&#537;a.&#8221;</p><p>Asta ar fi abordarea ca la carte, dar s-ar putea s&#259; nu fie suficient&#259;, crede Puchiu. E nevoie de <strong>un mix de instrumente &#537;i de interven&#539;ii mai agile</strong>, inclusiv <em>out of the box</em> &#8211; campanii de <em>engagement</em>, amabsadori care s&#259; promoveze &#537;i s&#259; conving&#259; oamenii, ONG-uri care deja lucreaz&#259; &#238;n teren s&#259; preia &#537;i mesajul acesta.</p><div class="captioned-button-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/p/screeningul-pentru-cancer-in-romania?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="CaptionedButtonToDOM"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">&#536;tii pe cineva interesat de aceast&#259; analiz&#259;? Trimite-i articolul.</p></div><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/p/screeningul-pentru-cancer-in-romania?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/screeningul-pentru-cancer-in-romania?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p></div><h2><strong><br>Crearea &#238;n paralel a registrului de cancer</strong></h2><p>Crearea unui registru de cancer <strong>e tot &#238;n responsabilitatea INSP</strong>, conform unei Hot&#259;r&#226;ri de Guvern din 2023 &#537;i ar trebui f&#259;cut cu bani din PNRR, cu scopul principal de a produce date despre de inciden&#539;&#259; &#537;i supravie&#539;uire cu cancer. </p><p>De fapt, ar fi mai multe registre: cancer, boli rare, diabet &#537;i politraum&#259;, care sunt condi&#539;ionate unul de altul &#8211; dac&#259; nu se face unul, nu se primesc banii nici pentru cel&#259;lalt.</p><p>La &#238;nceputul lui 2024 s-au f&#259;cut licita&#539;ii care au fost contestate, acum se re-evalueaz&#259; ofertele, iar banii trebuie cheltui&#539;i p&#226;n&#259; &#238;n 2026 inclusiv. Conform caietului de sarcini, spitalele nu ar trebui s&#259;-&#537;i cumpere niciun alt soft &#537;i nici s&#259; angajeze oameni &#238;n plus, pentru c&#259; registrul &#537;i-ar trage singur toate datele necesare. </p><p>La INSP ar mai trebui doar codificate manual anumite informa&#539;ii, &#537;i pentru asta ar trebui c&#226;te doi registratori pe regiune. Nici INSP nu ar trebui s&#259; mai angajeze personal suplimentar, spune dr. Ungurean, ci s&#259;-l formeze pe cel existent. </p><p>Ar fi nevoie doar de suport IT dup&#259; cei 5 ani &#238;n care firma c&#226;&#537;tig&#259;toare trebuie s&#259; asigure mentena&#539;&#259;, plus un <em>data analyst</em> bun. Sper&#259; totu&#537;i ca, <strong>odat&#259; licita&#539;ia &#238;ncheiat&#259;, registrul de cancer s&#259; poat&#259; fi gata &#238;n 6 luni &#537;i dat&#259; &#238;n test</strong> (la cancer e mai simplu pentru c&#259; exist&#259; metodologie european&#259;, pe c&#226;nd celelalte trebuie f&#259;cute de la zero).</p><h2><strong><br>Criteriile de calitate &#537;i educarea medicilor</strong></h2><p>O alt&#259; <strong>pies&#259; esen&#539;ial&#259; de puzzle &#238;n procesul de screening este preg&#259;tirea continu&#259; a medicilor &#537;i asigurarea standardelor de calitate europene</strong> de care vorbeam mai sus. Practic, un gastroenterolog ar trebui s&#259; fac&#259; colonoscopii de screening numai dac&#259; are o anumit&#259; experien&#539;&#259;, face un anumit curs &#537;i are o anumit&#259; aparatur&#259; (or acum sunt jude&#539;e &#238;ntregi unde nu po&#539;i face deloc colonoscopie).</p><p>Screeningul are o particularitate, spune dr. Ungurean, aceea c&#259; presupune &#537;i mai mult&#259; responsabilitate din punct profesional, &#537;i abilit&#259;&#539;i peste medie: </p><div class="pullquote"><p>&#8222;Screeningul trebuie s&#259; vad&#259; tumorile mici. Niciunde &#238;n lume, &#238;n timpul reziden&#539;iatului, un doctor nu este preg&#259;tit s&#259; caute tumorile mici. Tinerii speciali&#537;ti sunt &#238;nv&#259;&#539;a&#539;i s&#259; vad&#259; tumorile mari, cu at&#226;t mai mult cu c&#226;t la noi acestea se diagnosticheaz&#259; cel mai des, pentru c&#259; oamenii vin &#238;n stadii avansate de boal&#259;.&#8221;</p></div><p><strong>O mamografie de screening, de exemplu, ar trebui interpretat&#259; de medici care au v&#259;zut cel pu&#539;in 2.000 de mamografii.</strong> &#206;n plus, toate investiga&#539;iile de screening ar trebui auditate &#8211; adic&#259; reverificate periodic &#537;i prin sondaj, ca s&#259; vezi dac&#259; rezultatele sunt corecte.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Y3Ap!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa6fc1b2a-8f37-4ecb-81f7-da7c7a742b34_1200x800.heic" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source 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create de la zero). </p><p>Acum avem vreo 10 pe colonoscopie &#537;i 10 pe mamografie, spune dr. Ungurean, &#537;i ar fi suficient cam unul pe jude&#539; (unul pe s&#226;n, unul pe col, unul pe colorect), pentru capacitatea de screening pe care o avem acum.</p><p><em>***Vreau s&#259; specific c&#259; nu colonoscopia este instrumentul default de screening &#238;n cancerul de col, ci testul FIT, dar colonoscopia este pasul urm&#259;tor obligatoriu, dac&#259; apare vreo suspiciune la FIT.</em></p><div><hr></div><h2>Slovenia</h2><p>Slovenia este unul dintre cazurile de bun&#259; practic&#259; recunoscut&#259; de OMS &#238;n materie de screening, at&#226;t din punct de vedere al ratei de participare, c&#226;t &#537;i al rezultatelor, &#537;i folose&#537;te sistemul pe care &#537;i Rom&#226;nia &#537;i l-ar dori: registre de screening, cu sistemul invitare-reinvitare &#537;i servicii accesibile &#537;i de calitate pe tot traseul, de la screening, la tratament &#537;i follow-up.</p><p><strong>De aproximativ 20 de ani are trei programe func&#539;ionale:</strong> pentru cancerul de s&#226;n, cervical &#537;i colorectal, fiecare cu registrul lui, &#537;i acum evalueaz&#259; introducerea a dou&#259; noi programe: pentru cancerul de pl&#259;m&#226;ni &#537;i de prostat&#259;.</p><p>Screeningul pentru cancerul cervical a &#238;nceput regional &#238;n 1998 &#537;i na&#539;ional &#238;n 2003 &#537;i presupune un test Babe&#537; Papanicolau la fiecare 3 ani (urmat de alte investiga&#539;ii &#537;i tratament dac&#259; e cazul). Rata de participare a fost constant peste 70% (74% &#238;n ultimii trei ani), iar inciden&#539;a a sc&#259;zut semnificativ.</p><p><strong>&#8222;De la 27 de noi cazuri la 100.000 de persoane, am ajuns la 6 &#537;i trebuie s&#259; sc&#259;dem sub 4 pentru a atinge &#539;inta de eliminare a OMS&#8221;</strong>, mi-a explicat dr. Ur&#353;ka Ivanu&#353;, coordonatoarea programului. <strong>&#8222;Nu &#537;tim exact c&#226;nd, acum facem calculele, dar credem c&#259; vom fi printre primii din Europa.&#8221;</strong></p><blockquote><p>Dac&#259; am rezuma, sunt dou&#259; motive cheie pentru care Slovenia a reu&#537;it asta: trecerea de la screeningul oportunist (adic&#259; fiecare pe cont propriu, dac&#259; &#537;i c&#226;nd vrea, f&#259;r&#259; criterii de calitate unitare &#537;i date centralizate) la cel organizat, plus standarde de calitate extrem de &#238;nalte &#238;n prelevarea &#537;i prelucrarea probelor, astfel &#238;nc&#226;t rezultatele s&#259; fie corecte, f&#259;r&#259; fals pozitive sau fals negative, care ar face, printre altele, ca &#238;ncrederea femeilor &#537;i rata de participare s&#259; scad&#259;.</p></blockquote><p>&#8222;C&#226;nd screeningul e oportunist &#537;i nu exist&#259; niciun fel de monitorizare&#8221;, spune dr. Ivanu&#353;, &#8222;cele care &#238;l fac sunt femeile mai educate, care de obicei au &#537;i un risc mai sc&#259;zut, pe c&#226;nd cele cu risc mai mare ori nu &#238;l fac deloc, ori nu &#238;l fac regulat&#8221;.</p><p>&#536;i atunci Slovenia &#537;i-a creat legisla&#539;ia necesar&#259;, registrul de screening pe care l-a legat de cel popula&#539;ional (sincronizarea se face zilnic) &#537;i un centru de coordonare &#238;n cadrul Institutului de Oncologie Ljubljana, de care se ocup&#259; aproximativ 20 de persoane.</p><p><strong>Cum func&#539;ioneaz&#259;?</strong></p><p>&#206;n Slovenia, fiecare femeie trebuie s&#259; fie &#238;nregistrat&#259; la un medic ginecolog, a&#537;a cum suntem noi la medicul de familie. O dat&#259; la trei ani se poate duce singur&#259; pentru testare sau a&#537;teapt&#259; o scrisoare de la ginecologul ei. Dac&#259; au trecut patru ani de la ultimul test &#537;i femeia nu s-a dus, prime&#537;te o scrisoare &#8222;de la centru&#8221;, adic&#259; de la cei care coordoneaz&#259; programul.</p><p>Doar femeile asigurate pot face asta gratuit, dar 96%-97% dintre ele sunt, &#537;i <strong>to&#539;i ginecologii iau parte automat la programul de screening, nu pot refuza. </strong></p><p>Asta &#238;&#539;i asigur&#259; accesibilitate pe tot teritoriul &#539;&#259;rii, f&#259;r&#259; timpi de a&#537;teptare. Rezultatul este trecut &#238;n registrul de screening &#537;i comunicat medicului (nu direct femeii). Dac&#259; trebuie, el o sun&#259; pe femeie ca s-o cheme pentru testare HPV &#537;i, eventual, tratament.</p><p>&#8222;Dar fiecare &#539;ar&#259; trebuie s&#259; &#238;&#537;i g&#259;seasc&#259; abordarea proprie, care s&#259; fie sustenabil&#259;&#8221;, recomand&#259; dr. Ivanu&#353;. &#8222;Dac&#259; e prea scump&#259; sau nu e acceptat&#259; de oameni, atunci nu e sustenabil&#259;. Screeningul poate &#238;ncepe regional, &#238;n etape. Esen&#539;ial este standardul foarte, foarte &#238;nalt de calitate a serviciilor &#537;i monitorizarea lor.&#8221;</p><blockquote><p>&#206;n mod interesant, Slovenia nu a implementat &#238;nc&#259; recomand&#259;rile Consiliului UE din 2022, care cer ca screeningul s&#259; se fac&#259; prin testare HPV, o dat&#259; la cinci ani &#8211; pe de o parte datorit&#259; rezultatelor foarte bune ale sistemului actual &#537;i pe de alt&#259; parte, pentru c&#259; nu au vrut s&#259; fac&#259; schimb&#259;ri &#238;n pandemie, ar fi fost riscant. </p><p>Vor face trecerea, dar trebuie preg&#259;tit&#259; atent, de la licita&#539;ii publice pentru dotarea laboratoarelor, la educarea femeilor, care ar putea crede c&#259; trecerea de la trei la cinci ani &#238;nseamn&#259; c&#259; &#539;ara vrea s&#259; fac&#259; economie. 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Femeile asigurate &#238;ntre 50 &#537;i 69 de ani primesc acas&#259;, o dat&#259; la doi ani, o scrisoare cu o programare gata f&#259;cut&#259; la o mamografie cu care se pot duce direct, f&#259;r&#259; bilet de trimitere &#537;i timpi de a&#537;teptare, la unul dintre cele 19 centre disponibile.</p><p>Scrisoarea este trimis&#259; direct de la centrul de management al programului, aflat tot &#238;n cadrul Institutului de Oncologie din Ljubljana, iar <strong>rata de participare este de 77-78%</strong> (&#537;i aici e valabil standardul minim de 70%). </p><p>&#8222;Noi preg&#259;tim scrisoarea personalizat&#259;, lista de invitare, program&#259;rile, iar o firm&#259; extern&#259; face trimiterea efectiv&#259;&#8221;, mi-a explicat dr. Katja Jarm, specialist &#238;n s&#259;n&#259;tate public&#259;, care lucreaz&#259; &#238;n managementul programului de 10 ani. &#8222;Cu dou&#259; zile &#238;nainte, femeia prime&#537;te un SMS ca reminder &#537;i &#238;n viitor va putea alege cum s&#259; fie invitat&#259;: prin scrisoare, SMS, email.&#8221;</p><p>&#206;nc&#259; de la &#238;nceputul programului, toate mamografiile au fost citite de doi radiologi care nu &#537;tiu unul de interpretarea celuilalt, iar dac&#259; exist&#259; o suspiciune, intervine un al treilea &#537;i to&#539;i trei discut&#259; cazul. Ca s&#259; poat&#259; face parte din program, to&#539;i radiologii trebuie mearg&#259; constant la traininguri &#537;i s&#259; aib&#259; o experien&#539;&#259; de minimum 5.000 de mamografii citite pe an.</p><p>Toate mamografiile sunt citite &#238;n 1-3 zile, stocate &#238;n sistem, iar dac&#259; rezultatul e negativ, femeia prime&#537;te o scrisoare acas&#259;. Dac&#259; exist&#259; suspiciuni, e sunat&#259; de personalul administrativ &#537;i chemat&#259; pentru investiga&#539;ii suplimentare.</p><p>&#8222;&#206;n cadrul programului de screening, aproximativ 140.000 de femei primesc scrisoarea acas&#259;, anual&#8221;, spune dr. Jarm. </p><p>&#8222;110.000 fac mamografia &#537;i sunt descoperite 620 de noi cazuri pe an. Spre deosebire screeningul pentru cancerul de col, care poate descoperi leziuni &#238;nainte de a se transforma &#238;n cancer, noi nu putem s&#259; prevenim, putem doar s&#259; ne asigur&#259;m c&#259; boala nu se extinde prea mult. Scopul nostru nu este s&#259; prelungim supravie&#539;uirea, ci s&#259; reducem mortalitatea &#8211; adic&#259; femeile, chiar dac&#259; au cancer de s&#226;n, s&#259; nu moar&#259; din cauza asta.&#8221;</p><blockquote><p><strong>&#206;n cur&#226;nd voi publica </strong>un interviu integral cu dr.<strong> </strong>Ur&#353;ka Ivanu&#353; &#537;i dr. Katja Jarm, despre cum func&#539;ioneaz&#259; cele dou&#259; programe de screening, &#537;i unul cu coordonatoarea registrului de cancer, pe care Slovenia &#238;l are de 70(!) de ani, dr. Vesna Zadnik.</p></blockquote><p></p><div><hr></div><h2><strong>Ar putea avea &#537;i Rom&#226;nia a&#537;a ceva?</strong></h2><p>R&#259;spunsul scurt este: da.</p><p>R&#259;spunsul mai lung este: da, dar registrele acestea sau infrastructura digital&#259; nu sunt suficiente, pentru c&#259; exist&#259; mai multe piese de puzzle: oamenii s&#259; &#238;n&#539;eleag&#259; ce e screeningul, de ce primesc scrisoarea aia acas&#259; &#537;i c&#259; nu &#238;i cost&#259; nimic, INSP s&#259; impun&#259; standarde de calitate pentru efectuarea &#537;i interpretarea acestor investiga&#539;ii (practic, ar trebui s&#259; fii mai sigur de rezultat dec&#226;t dac&#259; te duci tu acum s&#259; faci o mamografie la o clinic&#259; oarecare), s&#259; fie spitale care s&#259; poat&#259; &#537;i s&#259; vrea s&#259; intre &#238;n program (adic&#259;: aparatur&#259; la standarde, sisteme eficiente de programare, medici dispu&#537;i s&#259; se specializeze continuu &#537;i chiar s&#259; lucreze &#238;n plus), sistemul s&#259; poat&#259; prelua imediat pentru diagnosticare &#537;i tratament oamenii cu suspiciune de cancer &#238;n urma screeningului &#537;i, nu &#238;n ultimul r&#226;nd, oamenii s&#259; aib&#259; mijloace ca s&#259; ajung&#259;, fizic, s&#259; fac&#259; testele astea: drumuri, transport public pe care s&#259; &#537;i-l poat&#259; permite.</p><p>E nevoie de voin&#539;&#259; conjugat&#259;, dup&#259; cum spuneam mai sus, iar pentru asta trebuie convinse anumite straturi de decizie, administrative &#537;i politice. </p><div class="pullquote"><p>&#8222;Practic, trebuie s&#259; le vinzi visul&#8221;, a rezumat Radu Puchiu. </p></div><p>Visul &#537;i standardele, a&#537; ad&#259;uga eu.</p><p>Pentru c&#259;, &#238;n absen&#539;a unor registre func&#539;ionale, sub presiunea public&#259; &#537;i politic&#259; de a face screening, exist&#259; riscul ca el s&#259; se desf&#259;&#537;oare de-a valma, f&#259;r&#259; criterii de calitate &#537;i f&#259;r&#259; trasabilitate, &#537;i lumea &#8211; inclusiv personalul medical &#8211; s&#259; &#238;n&#539;eleag&#259; c&#259; a&#537;a se face.</p><p>Iar c&#226;nd unor oameni li se va spune ba c&#259; au cancer, de&#537;i nu au, ba c&#259; sunt s&#259;n&#259;to&#537;i, de&#537;i nu sunt, &#238;ncrederea tuturor se va pr&#259;bu&#537;i &#537;i nu vom reu&#537;i niciodat&#259; s&#259; salv&#259;m vie&#539;ile care ar putea fi salvate, dar&#259;mite s&#259; ne apropiem de &#539;intele dorite de OMS.</p><p></p><p><em>Material realizat &#238;n proiectul &#8222;DigITup&#8221; derulat de Centrul pentru Jurnalism Independent (CJI), cu sus&#539;inerea EDGE</em></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Și adulții fac vaccinuri]]></title><description><![CDATA[&#537;i unde s&#259; te vaccinezi &#238;nainte de-o c&#259;l&#259;torie exotic&#259;]]></description><link>https://sorana.substack.com/p/si-adultii-fac-vaccinuri</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://sorana.substack.com/p/si-adultii-fac-vaccinuri</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Sorana Stănescu]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2025 04:00:16 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wxMV!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F797dcc48-b49c-4838-8a91-57f9778cf170_1080x1080.heic" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salut,</p><p>Edi&#539;ia asta am ales s&#259; vorbim despre vaccinare, un subiect pe c&#226;t de ne-negociabil din punctul meu de vedere, pe at&#226;t de delicat &#238;n ultimii ani. M-am concentrat pe vaccinarea adul&#539;ilor &#537;i pe recuperarea vaccinal&#259;, despre care &#537;tiu c&#259; exist&#259; prea pu&#539;ine informa&#539;ii. Cheia &#238;n care mi-ar pl&#259;cea s&#259; citi&#539;i e urm&#259;toare:</p><blockquote><p>1. <strong>Vaccinarea nu este obligatorie &#238;n Rom&#226;nia</strong>. Punct. Exist&#259; scheme recomandate, un Program Na&#539;ional de Vaccinare (PNV) care include vaccinuri gratuite, o list&#259; (foarte generoas&#259;) de compensare, exist&#259; vaccinuri suplimentare, dar nu exist&#259; o obliga&#539;ie.</p><p>2. <strong>DAR vaccinarea e o responsabilitate</strong>. Fa&#539;&#259; de propria persoan&#259;, fa&#539;&#259; de familia ta (care te va &#238;ngriji dac&#259; te &#238;mboln&#259;ve&#537;ti sau r&#259;m&#226;i cu sechele), fa&#539;&#259; de viitorii t&#259;i parteneri de via&#539;&#259;, fa&#539;&#259; de copiii t&#259;i (o mam&#259; care nu a f&#259;cut vaccinul ROR &#8211; &#238;mpotriva rujeolei, rubeolei &#537;i oreionului &#8211; nu &#238;i va transmite copilului anticorpi, care sunt cruciali &#238;nainte de v&#226;rsta de 1 an, c&#226;nd poate face vaccinul), dar &#537;i fa&#539;&#259; de to&#539;i cei din jurul t&#259;u, a c&#259;ror s&#259;n&#259;tate o po&#539;i pune &#238;n pericol, chiar dac&#259; tu treci f&#259;r&#259; repercursiuni peste o boal&#259; care ar fi putut fi prevenit&#259; prin vaccin.</p><p>G&#226;nde&#537;te-te, de exemplu, la un bebelu&#537; care e prea mic pentru vaccinare &#537;i c&#259;ruia &#238;i po&#539;i da grip&#259; sau tuse convulsiv&#259;, la m&#259;tu&#537;a ta, care are o imunitate foarte sc&#259;zut&#259; din cauza chimioterapiei &#537;i tu &#238;i dai COVID-19, la un prieten care face un tratament pe via&#539;&#259; care &#238;i sl&#259;be&#537;te sistemul imunitar (tratament imunosupresor). To&#539;i oamenii cu afec&#539;iuni cronice &#537;i imunosupresie pot face forme severe ale unor boli pe care tu le consideri &#8222;banale&#8221;. Eu sunt unul dintre ei.</p><p>3. <strong>Vaccinarea e un proces pe tot parcursul vie&#539;ii</strong>. E gre&#537;it s&#259; credem c&#259; vaccinarea are loc doar &#238;n copil&#259;rie (vorbim mai jos).</p><p>4. <strong>Vaccinarea nu te protejeaz&#259; doar de boala &#8222;imediat&#259;&#8221;, ci de posibile complica&#539;ii &#537;i sechele peste ani.</strong> De exemplu, <a href="https://insp.gov.ro/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/Pliant_Tuse_Convulsiva.pdf">tusea convulsiv&#259;</a>, care <a href="https://www.facebook.com/reel/1118404460028028">a reap&#259;rut</a> violent la bebelu&#537;i &#238;n Rom&#226;nia pentru c&#259; a sc&#259;zut vaccinarea, poate da complica&#539;ii neurologice &#537;i deficit cognitiv <em>pe via&#539;&#259;</em>. Iar <a href="https://vaccination-info.europa.eu/ro/varicela-varsatul-de-vant">varicela</a> poate cauza <a href="https://vaccination-info.europa.eu/ro/zona%20zoster">zona zoster</a>, o infec&#539;ie viral&#259; care afecteaz&#259; sistemul nervos, poate duce la orbire &#537;i care se poate activa &#537;i dup&#259; v&#226;rsta de 50 de ani.</p><p><em>Despre tusea convulsiv&#259; vreau s&#259; mai spun dou&#259; lucruri care m-au marcat, auzite de la dr. Mihai Craiu, unul dintre cei mai reputa&#539;i speciali&#537;ti pneumologi pediatri: 1. &#206;ntrebarea este nu &#8222;dac&#259;&#8221;, ci &#8222;c&#226;nd&#8221; va izbucni &#238;n Rom&#226;nia o epidemie, pentru c&#259; a sc&#259;zut mult vaccinarea &#537;i 2. Medicii sub 40 de ani nu prea recunosc boala, pentru c&#259; au &#238;nv&#259;&#539;at despre ea doar &#238;n c&#259;r&#539;i, nu au v&#259;zut-o &#238;n realitate. P&#226;n&#259; acum.</em></p><p><em>Vaccinul pentru tuse convulsiv&#259; a fost introdus &#238;n Rom&#226;nia &#238;n 1960 &#537;i acum se face &#238;n cadrul <a href="http://desprevaccin.ro/vaccinul-hexavalent/">vaccinului hexavalent</a> la bebelu&#537;i &#537;i necesit&#259; rapel din 10 &#238;n 10 ani, iar cel &#238;mpotriva varicelei &#8211; &#238;n anii &#8217;80 &#537;i se face &#238;n copil&#259;rie, dar se poate &#537;i dup&#259; aceea. Ce vreau s&#259; subliniez e c&#259; sunt vaccinuri folosite de zeci de ani, care &#537;i-au dovedit eficacitatea.</em></p></blockquote><div class="captioned-button-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/p/si-adultii-fac-vaccinuri?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="CaptionedButtonToDOM"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Sigur &#537;tii pe cineva care ar avea nevoie de informa&#539;ii despre vaccin. Trimite-i edi&#539;ia aceasta &#537;i &#238;ndeamn&#259;-l s&#259; se aboneze. </p></div><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/p/si-adultii-fac-vaccinuri?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/si-adultii-fac-vaccinuri?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p></div><p></p><h2><strong>Ce vaccinuri ar trebui s&#259; &#238;i fac copilului meu?</strong></h2><p>Exist&#259; <strong>o serie de vaccinuri </strong><em><strong>recomandate</strong></em>, incluse &#238;n <a href="https://insp.gov.ro/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/PNI-1-1.pdf">Programul Na&#539;ional de Vaccinare</a> (PNV), care sunt gratuite &#537;i se fac p&#226;n&#259; la 14 ani. Primele, &#238;mpotriva hepatitei B &#537;i tuberculozei, se fac &#238;n maternitate, apoi la medicul de familie &#8211; aten&#539;ie! nu se mai fac la &#537;coal&#259; din 2015.</p><p>Tu, ca p&#259;rinte, vei primi un SMS c&#259; se apropie momentul vaccin&#259;rii, iar medicul ar trebui s&#259; le aib&#259; pe stoc, de la Direc&#539;ia de S&#259;n&#259;tate Public&#259; - DSP. (Vreau s&#259; clarific c&#259; prime&#537;ti SMS pe num&#259;rul pe care l-ai dat &#238;n maternitate c&#226;nd s-a n&#259;scut copilul, nu e vreun Big Brother care &#537;tie telefoanele tuturor din &#539;ara asta.)</p><p>&#10145;&#65039; <a href="https://insp.gov.ro/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/Poster_Calendar_National_Vaccinare.pdf">Aici g&#259;se&#537;ti un timeline cu vaccinurile recomandate.</a></p><p>&#536;i mai exist&#259; c&#226;teva <strong>vaccinuri </strong><em><strong>suplimentare</strong></em><strong> sau </strong><em><strong>op&#539;ionale</strong></em>, pe care, <em>&#238;n cele mai multe cazuri, dar nu mereu (vezi mai jos)</em>, trebuie s&#259; le cumperi:</p><ul><li><p>&#238;mpotriva <a href="https://vaccination-info.europa.eu/ro/boala-meningococica">meningitelor meningococice</a>;</p></li><li><p><a href="https://vaccination-info.europa.eu/ro/rotavirozele">rotavirusului</a>;</p></li><li><p><a href="https://vaccination-info.europa.eu/ro/varicela-varsatul-de-vant">varicelei</a>;</p></li><li><p><a href="https://vaccination-info.europa.eu/ro/disease-factsheets/hepatitis-a">hepatitei A</a>;</p></li><li><p><a href="https://vaccination-info.europa.eu/ro/gripa">gripei</a> &#8211; se poate face de la 6 luni;</p></li><li><p><a href="https://vaccination-info.europa.eu/ro/papilomavirusul-uman-hpv">HPV</a> &#8211; se poate face de la 9 ani;</p></li><li><p><a href="https://vaccination-info.europa.eu/ro/encefalita-transmisa-de-capuse">encefalitei de c&#259;pu&#537;&#259;</a> &#8211; prin mu&#537;c&#259;tura de c&#259;pu&#537;&#259; se transmit mul&#539;i microbi, dintre care cea mai cunoscut&#259; e bacteria Borellia, care poate da boala Lyme (afecteaz&#259; sistemul nervos). &#206;mpotriva ei nu exist&#259; vaccinare, dar exist&#259; pentru un virus care produce encefalita (afecteaz&#259; tot sistemul nervos). Aten&#539;ie: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1109519451200548&amp;id=100064275116222&amp;rdid=JKmeoPKmSmxzX2pJ">Europa Central&#259; &#537;i de Est sunt hotspot-uri, spune ECDC</a>. <a href="https://mediately.co/ro/drugs/YqK2LTkZkJaWKwKOVG9BVuG3t7h/fsme-immun-0%252C5-ml-susp.-inj.-in-seringa-preumpluta">Vaccinul</a> e disponibil &#537;i la noi, at&#226;t pentru adul&#539;i, c&#226;t &#537;i pentru copii.</p></li></ul><h4><strong>Important:</strong></h4><ul><li><p>Dac&#259; un copil a f&#259;cut rujeol&#259;, rubeol&#259; sau oreion &#238;nainte de 1 an, v&#226;rsta la care se face prima doz&#259; de vaccin ROR, tot trebuie s&#259; fac&#259; vaccinul. Practic, el s-a imunizat &#238;mpotriva uneia dintre ele, dar vaccinul ap&#259;r&#259; &#238;mpotriva tuturor celor trei.</p></li><li><p>Dac&#259; a f&#259;cut varicel&#259;, care e extrem de contagioas&#259;, nu mai e nevoie de vaccin, pentru c&#259; boala ofer&#259; imunitate pe via&#539;&#259;, dar virusul r&#259;m&#226;ne cantonat &#238;n corp &#537;i exist&#259; riscul de a face zona zoster. Pe de alt&#259; parte, mi-a explicat dr. Sandra Alexiu, pre&#537;edinta Asocia&#539;iei Medicilor de Familie Bucure&#537;ti - Ilfov, dac&#259; ai f&#259;cut vaccinul &#537;i contractezi totu&#537;i boala, vei face o form&#259; foarte u&#537;oar&#259;, nu e&#537;ti contagios &#537;i nu ri&#537;ti zona zoster.</p></li></ul><p>Consult&#259; medicul de familie, ca s&#259; vezi c&#226;nd &#537;i dac&#259; vaccinurile suplimentare sunt potrivite pentru copilul t&#259;u. El &#238;&#539;i d&#259; o re&#539;et&#259;, cu care le cumperi din farmacie.</p><p>&#10145;&#65039; <a href="https://www.copac.ro/primele-vaccinuri-ale-bebelusului/">Aici g&#259;se&#537;ti un ghid pentru p&#259;rin&#539;i</a>, cu detalii despre fiecare &#238;n parte.<br></p><h2><strong>Cine pl&#259;te&#537;te vaccinul?</strong></h2><ul><li><p>Copiii sunt asigura&#539;i din oficiu, deci vaccinurile recomandate (= <em>din Programul Na&#539;ional),</em> sunt gratuite. Le fac la medicul de familie, care le procur&#259; de la DSP. Tot gratuite sunt &#537;i <a href="https://cnas.ro/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/Tip-de-vaccin.pdf">unele vaccinuri op&#539;ionale</a>, precum gripalul sau HPV, pe care &#238;ns&#259; le iei cu re&#539;et&#259; gratuit&#259; de la farmacie, nu le are medicul de familie.</p></li><li><p>Dup&#259; 19 ani, dac&#259; e&#537;ti asigurat &#537;i e&#537;ti &#238;ntr-o grup&#259; de risc (explic mai jos), po&#539;i lua din farmacie <em>unele </em>vaccinuri compensat sau gratuit, cu re&#539;et&#259;. Dac&#259; nu e&#537;ti &#238;ntr-o grup&#259; de risc, le pl&#259;te&#537;ti.</p></li><li><p>Dac&#259; nu e&#537;ti asigurat, nu prime&#537;ti reducere sau gratuitate la vaccinuri, a&#537;a cum nu prime&#537;ti re&#539;ete gratuite sau compensate pentru medicamente. (&#536;tiu cum sun&#259; asta &#8211; &#8222;capitalism&#8221;, &#8222;inechitate&#8221; etc. Vreau s&#259; spun &#238;ns&#259; c&#259; asigurat po&#539;i fi &#537;i dac&#259; nu pl&#259;te&#537;ti contribu&#539;iile &#8211; de exemplu, dac&#259; ai una dintre bolile grave incluse &#238;n <a href="https://cnas.ro/programe-nationale-de-sanatate-curative/">Programele Na&#539;ionale</a>, e&#537;ti automat asigurat, deci po&#539;i face vaccinurile gratuit.)</p></li></ul><h2><strong>Pot s&#259; &#238;mi &#238;nscriu copilul la gr&#259;dini&#539;&#259; sau la &#537;coal&#259; dac&#259; nu e vaccinat?</strong></h2><p>Da. Indiferent dac&#259; a f&#259;cut vaccinurile recomandate sau nu, ai nevoie de o adeverin&#539;&#259; de la medicul de familie ca s&#259;-l po&#539;i &#238;nscrie, dar n-o s&#259; fie respins din cauza asta.</p><p><strong>Aten&#539;ie</strong> &#238;ns&#259;: dac&#259; vrei s&#259; studieze &#238;n str&#259;in&#259;tate, sunt &#539;&#259;ri (precum SUA) care cer dovada unor vaccinuri esen&#539;iale.</p><p></p><h2><strong>Eu sau copilul meu am ratat un vaccin. Ce facem?</strong></h2><p>Pe scurt, &#238;l face&#539;i.</p><p>Se nume&#537;te &#8222;recuperare vaccinal&#259;&#8221; &#537;i ar trebui s&#259; se ghideze dup&#259; principiul &#8222;nu l&#259;s&#259;m pe nimeni &#238;n urm&#259;&#8221;, dup&#259; cum am aflat la o conferin&#539;&#259; a medicilor de familie, unde &#8222;l&#259;sat &#238;n urm&#259;&#8221; poate fi orice persoan&#259; care din diferite motive nu a f&#259;cut un vaccin sau un rapel la momentul potrivit, <em>dintre cele din PNV</em>.</p><p>Uneori e de vin&#259; refuzul sau neglijen&#539;a p&#259;rin&#539;ilor, alteori vorbim de copii care nu au fost &#238;nscri&#537;i la un medic de familie &#537;i despre care pur &#537;i simplu nu exist&#259; informa&#539;ii &#8211; &#238;n cazul &#259;sta, se consider&#259; nevaccina&#539;i &#537;i se face schema din PNV de la zero. 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17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">sursa: INSP</figcaption></figure></div><p></p><p>Dac&#259; e&#537;ti adult &#537;i vrei s&#259; faci un vaccin care nu era disponibil c&#226;nd aveai v&#226;rsta eligibil&#259;, iar acum e, se nume&#537;te c&#259; &#238;&#539;i &#8222;completezi&#8221; schema, dup&#259; cum mi-a explicat medicul Gindrovel Dumitra, coordonatorul Grupului de vaccinologie din Societatea Na&#539;ional&#259; de Medicin&#259; de Familie (SNMF). De exemplu: cel &#238;mpotriva hepatitei B, care a ap&#259;rut &#238;n Rom&#226;nia &#238;n 1995, &#537;i pe care mul&#539;i adul&#539;i de peste 40 de ani nu l-au f&#259;cut nici p&#226;n&#259; azi.</p><p>Principiile recuper&#259;rii vaccinale (tot de la conferin&#539;a medicilor de familie):</p><blockquote><p>1. Celor care &#238;nt&#226;rzie nu trebuie s&#259; li se refuze vaccinarea.</p><p>2. E &#238;ntotdeauna mai bine s&#259; te vaccinezi mai t&#226;rziu, dec&#226;t niciodat&#259;.</p><p>3. Nu am&#226;na vaccinurile restante sau scadente.</p><p>4. Majoritatea vaccinurilor pot fi f&#259;cute concomitent &#8211; adic&#259; po&#539;i face dou&#259;, chiar trei, odat&#259;, dar &#238;n membre diferite sau la distan&#539;&#259; de min. 2,5 cm (aten&#539;ie: nu se fac &#238;n fes&#259;, ca alte injec&#539;ii, ci &#238;n coaps&#259; sau &#238;n bra&#539;).</p><p>5. Nu exist&#259; &#8222;supradozaj&#8221; &#238;n vaccinare. Nu p&#259;&#539;e&#537;ti nimic dac&#259; repe&#539;i, la v&#226;rst&#259; adult&#259;, un vaccin pe care l-ai f&#259;cut &#238;n copil&#259;rie. &#536;i nu are rost s&#259; &#238;&#539;i verifici nivelul de anticorpi &#238;nainte de face sau relua un vaccin, mi-au spus to&#539;i medicii cu care am vorbit.</p></blockquote><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Dac&#259; aceste informa&#539;ii &#238;&#539;i sunt de folos, po&#539;i s&#259; &#238;mi sus&#539;ii munca printr-un abonament pl&#259;tit: 7 euro/lun&#259;, 80/an sau 150 - membru fondator.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p></p><h2><strong>Sunt un adult s&#259;n&#259;tos. Ce vaccinuri ar fi bine s&#259; fac?</strong></h2><p>Mi-a&#537; fi dorit ca r&#259;spunsul la &#238;ntrebarea asta s&#259; fie mai simplu.</p><p>Pe scurt, nu ar trebui s&#259; &#537;tii <em>tu</em>, ci medicul de familie ar trebui s&#259; te ghideze, &#238;n func&#539;ie de starea ta de s&#259;n&#259;tate &#537;i de v&#226;rst&#259;, dar &#537;i de stilul de via&#539;&#259; &#537;i contextul familial &#8211; o s&#259; repet: dac&#259; locuie&#537;ti sau interac&#539;ionezi foarte des cu un adult care a f&#259;cut un transplant, face dializ&#259;, are o imunitate foarte sc&#259;zut&#259;, are boli cronice severe sau v&#226;rst&#259; foarte &#238;naintat&#259;, ar trebui s&#259; fii la zi cu toate vaccinurile &#537;i rapelurile, pentru a-l proteja pe el, mi-a spus medicul Gindrovel Dumitra.</p><p><strong>Vaccinarea e un proces care trebuie personalizat</strong>, mi-a subliniat &#537;i dr. Alexiu. &#8222;Nu toat&#259; lumea are nevoie de toate vaccinurile, dar e bine s&#259; &#537;tim c&#259; ele exist&#259; &#537;i s&#259; ne protej&#259;m &#238;n consecin&#539;&#259;.&#8221;</p><p>Ce ar trebui s&#259; &#537;tii tu e c&#259; <em>po&#539;i face</em> vaccinuri &#537;i la v&#226;rsta adult&#259; &#537;i ai putea <em>s&#259; deschizi tu discu&#539;ia cu medicul</em>, dac&#259; nu o face el.</p><p>Iat&#259; ce vaccinuri ai putea s&#259; faci dac&#259; e&#537;ti un adult f&#259;r&#259; boli cronice (majoritatea sunt acelea&#537;i ca la copii):</p><ul><li><p><a href="http://desprevaccin.ro/vaccinul-dtpa-diftero-tetano-pertussis-acelular-adulti/">diftero-tetano-pertussis</a> (&#238;mpotriva difteriei, tetanosului &#537;i tusei convulsive) &#8211; la fiecare 10 ani, e compensat 100% pentru toat&#259; lumea;</p></li><li><p>meningococic (&#238;mpotriva meningitelor meningococice). Chiar dac&#259; la noi sunt pu&#539;ine cazuri, dr. Dumitra mi-a dat exemplul tinerilor, care, de&#537;i sunt s&#259;n&#259;to&#537;i, au activit&#259;&#539;i &#238;n colectivit&#259;&#539;i mari, c&#259;l&#259;toresc mult, locuiesc cu persoane din &#539;&#259;ri unde virusul circul&#259; mult mai mult &#537;i atunci riscul de a-l contracta e mult mai mare. <a href="https://cnas.ro/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/Tip-de-vaccin.pdf">E gratuit</a> doar pentru categoriile la risc;</p></li><li><p><a href="http://desprevaccin.ro/vaccinul-pneumococic-adulti/">pneumococic</a> (&#238;mpotriva pneumoniilor, septicemiilor). Ar fi bine s&#259;-l fac&#259; toat&#259; lumea, dar <a href="https://cnas.ro/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/Tip-de-vaccin.pdf">e gratuit</a> doar pentru categoriile la risc &#8211; vreau s&#259; subliniez c&#259; aceste categorii difer&#259; de la un vaccin la altul;</p></li><li><p><a href="http://desprevaccin.ro/vaccinul-hepatitic-b-adulti/">hepatitic B</a>. Idem;</p></li><li><p><a href="http://desprevaccin.ro/vaccinul-varicelic-adulti/">varicelic</a>. Idem;</p></li><li><p><a href="http://desprevaccin.ro/vaccinul-hepatitic-a-inactivat-adulti/">hepatitic A</a> &#8211; nu se compenseaz&#259; deloc;</p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.infohpv.ro/intrebari-frecvente/">HPV</a>. E gratuit pentru fete &#537;i b&#259;ie&#539;i &#238;ntre 11 &#537;i 26 ani &#537;i compensat 50% pentru femeile &#238;ntre 19 &#537;i 45 de ani (&#238;ntr-o edi&#539;ie viitoare vom vorbi doar despre el);</p></li><li><p><a href="http://desprevaccin.ro/vaccinul-gripal-adulti/">gripal</a>. Se face anual, pentru c&#259; tulpinile care circul&#259; difer&#259; de la un sezon la altul. <a href="https://cnas.ro/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/Tip-de-vaccin.pdf">E gratuit</a> pentru copii, gravide, v&#226;rstnici, persoane cu boli cronice &#537;i compensat 50% pentru adul&#539;ii s&#259;n&#259;to&#537;i. Am scris mai mult despre el <a href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/patru-lucruri-pe-care-nu-le-stiai?r=8k6pm">aici</a>;</p></li><li><p><a href="https://vaccination-info.europa.eu/ro/rsv">VSR - virus sinci&#539;ial respirator</a>, care e foarte periculos pentru copiii mici &#537;i v&#226;rstnici &#8211; vaccin exist&#259; doar pentru ace&#537;tia din urm&#259; &#537;i gravide, nou-n&#259;scu&#539;ii fiind proteja&#539;i prin anticorpii de la mam&#259;. Nu se compenseaz&#259;;</p></li><li><p>&#238;mpotriva encefalitei de c&#259;pu&#537;&#259; (am vorbit mai sus). Idem.</p></li></ul><p></p><h2><strong>De ce m-a&#537; vaccina, dac&#259; sunt un adult s&#259;n&#259;tos?</strong></h2><p>Dr. Alexiu mi-a explicat cel mai clar: </p><p>&#8222;&#206;n primul r&#226;nd, pentru c&#259; imunitatea e maxim&#259; p&#226;n&#259; la v&#226;rsta de adult, dup&#259; care scade. Deci, odat&#259; cu v&#226;rsta, nu doar c&#259; scade ap&#259;rarea contra bolilor prin procesul de <a href="https://www.doc.ro/sanatate/imunosenescenta-de-ce-scade-sistemul-imunitar-odata-cu-inaintarea-in-varsta">imunosenescen&#539;&#259;</a>, dar suntem mult mai vulnerabili la unele boli contagioase din cauza <em>altor </em>boli cronice pe care le facem &#238;n timp (tensiune, diabet, cancer). &#536;i atunci e bine s&#259; ne vaccin&#259;m c&#226;t avem &#238;nc&#259; un sistem imunitar suficient de puternic &#238;nc&#226;t s&#259; produc&#259; un nivel bun de anticorpi. &#206;n al doilea r&#226;nd, e bine s&#259; ne vaccin&#259;m ca s&#259; cre&#259;m imunitate de grup &#537;i s&#259; protej&#259;m persoanele vulnerabile de l&#226;ng&#259; noi.&#8221; </p><div class="pullquote"><p>&#8222;Practic, ne vaccin&#259;m &#238;mpotriva bolilor pe care le facem ca adul&#539;i, pe care le vom face ca v&#226;rstnici &#537;i pentru a-i proteja pe cei din jur (dr. Sandra Alexiu, medic de familie).&#8221;</p></div><h2><strong><br>Sunt un adult cu o boal&#259; cronic&#259;. Ce vaccinuri ar trebui s&#259; fac?</strong></h2><p>Din nou, principala recomandare e s&#259; vorbe&#537;ti cu medicul t&#259;u, pentru c&#259; sunt multe situa&#539;ii particulare &#537;i o s&#259; dau un singur exemplu: &#238;nainte de a &#238;ncepe un tratament care &#238;&#539;i va afecta sistemul imunitar, probabil va fi nevoie s&#259; reiei unele vaccinuri cu totul, ca s&#259;-&#539;i formezi titrul maxim de anticorpi posibil. Dac&#259; le-ai face dup&#259; ce ai &#238;nceput tratamentul, eficacitatea lor ar fi (mult) mai sc&#259;zut&#259;.</p><p>&#206;n egal&#259; m&#259;sur&#259;, dac&#259; ai anumite boli autoimune, e contraindicat s&#259; faci vaccinuri cu <a href="https://vaccination-info.europa.eu/ro/despre-vaccinuri/cum-actioneaza-vaccinurile">virus viu atenuat</a>.</p><p>Cert e c&#259; e gre&#537;it s&#259; crezi c&#259;, dac&#259; ai o afec&#539;iune cronic&#259;, nu e nevoie &#8211; sau, mai grav &#8211;, nu e voie s&#259; faci un vaccin. Dimpotriv&#259;. <strong>O boal&#259; cronic&#259; te plaseaz&#259; &#238;ntr-o categorie de risc &#537;i atunci vaccinarea e necesar&#259;.</strong></p><p><strong>Iar dac&#259; ai peste 65 de ani, e&#537;ti automat &#238;n categoria de risc.</strong></p><p>Din fericire, recomand&#259;rile sunt un pic mai clare dec&#226;t &#238;n cazul adul&#539;ilor s&#259;n&#259;to&#537;i. </p><p>&#10145;&#65039; <a href="https://www.copac.ro/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/ghid_vaccinare_pacienti_boli_cronice_v2.pdf">Acesta e un ghid de pus &#238;n ram&#259;</a>, f&#259;cut de Societatea de Epidemiologie &#537;i Coali&#539;ia Organiza&#539;iilor de Pacien&#539;i cu Afec&#539;iuni Cronice (COPAC). Vorbe&#537;te inclusiv de vaccinurile de dinaintea unei c&#259;l&#259;torii.<strong><br></strong></p><h2><strong><br>Vaccinuri gratuite sau compensate 50% &#537;i pentru adul&#539;i</strong></h2><p>Nu vreau s&#259; laud &#8222;sistemul&#8221;, dar vreau s&#259; subliniez c&#259; (&#537;i c&#226;nd) se &#238;nt&#226;mpl&#259; &#537;i lucruri bune: <a href="https://legislatie.just.ro/public/DetaliiDocument/274488">p&#226;n&#259; &#238;n 2023</a>, 1. Pacien&#539;ii cu boli cronice sau transplant nu aveau dreptul la vaccinuri compensate &#537;i gratuite &#537;i 2. Lista categoriilor eligibile s-a tot extins, iar vaccinul HPV e cel mai bun exemplu: la &#238;nceput, &#238;l puteau face doar fetele, gratuit, prin medicul de familie, dar erau liste de a&#537;teptare cu lunile. </p><p>Tot &#238;n 2023 el a devenit gratuit pentru fete <em>&#537;i b&#259;ie&#539;i</em> p&#226;n&#259; &#238;n 19 ani &#537;i compensat 50% pentru femeile p&#226;n&#259; &#238;n 45, iar s&#259;pt&#259;m&#226;na trecut&#259; gratuitatea s-a extins p&#226;n&#259; la 26 de ani.</p><p>&#206;n acest moment, Rom&#226;nia are <a href="https://cnas.ro/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/Tip-de-vaccin.pdf">una dintre cele mai generoase scheme de compensare</a> din Europa, a explicat recent la o conferin&#539;&#259; Doina Azoic&#259;i, pre&#537;edinta Societ&#259;&#539;ii de Epidemiologie, &#537;i nici cu stocurile nu au mai fost probleme, deci nu astea sunt cauzele pentru rata sc&#259;zut&#259; de vaccinare.</p><p>Tot ea a dat un exemplu pe care nu pot s&#259; &#238;l uit: pentru c&#259; pacien&#539;ii cu transplant de celule stem trebuie s&#259; refac&#259; toat&#259; schema de vaccinare (practic, imunitatea &#8222;se &#537;terge&#8221; odat&#259; cu transplantul), o pacient&#259; de-ale ei &#537;i-a v&#226;ndut calul, posesia cea mai de pre&#539;, ca s&#259;-&#537;i poat&#259; cump&#259;ra toate vaccinurile necesare. Era acum c&#226;&#539;iva ani, &#238;nainte de introducerea compens&#259;rii.</p><p>Da, e nevoie s&#259; faci un efort dac&#259; vrei s&#259; te vaccinezi: mergi la medic, faci un consult, iei re&#539;eta, &#238;l comanzi la farmacie, e mai greu &#238;n ora&#537;ele mici, trebuie s&#259; &#238;l pui la frigider imediat dup&#259; cump&#259;rare, dar nu e imposibil.</p><p><em>P.S. Societatea de Epidemiologie spune c&#259; &#238;ncearc&#259; s&#259; ob&#539;in&#259; compensarea &#537;i pentru vaccinul meningococic &#537;i VSR, a&#537;a cum s-a &#238;nt&#226;mplat &#238;n trecut cu HPV sau pneumococic.</em></p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Aboneaz&#259;-te ca s&#259; prime&#537;ti lunar astfel de informa&#539;ii utile.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h2><strong><br>Unde pot face vaccinul?</strong></h2><p>&#206;nainte de a r&#259;spunde, vreau s&#259; mai zic ceva ce nici eu nu &#537;tiam: <strong>re&#539;et&#259; gratuit&#259; sau compensat&#259; pentru orice vaccin poate elibera orice medic &#238;n contract cu Casa</strong>, nu doar medicul de familie, &#537;i e valabil&#259; 30 de zile. Dar pentru a decide care sunt vaccinurile potrivite pentru tine, discut&#259; cu medicul de familie.</p><p>&#536;i acum r&#259;spunsul: ar trebui s&#259; faci vaccinul la <strong>un medic vaccinator</strong> &#8211; adic&#259; medic de familie, epidemiolog, de boli infec&#539;ioase, pediatru sau orice alt medic care are atestat de vaccinologie (un curs de patru luni). Gripalul se poate face &#537;i &#238;n unele farmacii.</p><p><strong>Important:</strong> e bine s&#259; faci vaccinul (oricare) la unul dintre ace&#537;ti medici vaccinatori, din dou&#259; motive: 1. Ar putea ap&#259;rea reac&#539;ii post-vaccinale imediate &#537;i s-ar putea s&#259; fie nevoie s&#259; intervin&#259; &#537;i 2. Dac&#259; &#539;i-l face mama acas&#259;, c&#259; e asistent&#259;, ea nu-l poate introduce &#238;n Registrul Electronic Na&#539;ional de Vaccin&#259;ri (explic mai jos), deci n-o s&#259; ai istoricul complet, n-o s&#259; po&#539;i dovedi c&#259; l-ai f&#259;cut &#537;i nici statul nu te va num&#259;ra ca &#8222;vaccinat&#8221;.</p><h2><strong><br>Cum &#537;tii ce vaccinuri ai f&#259;cut?</strong></h2><p>Din p&#259;cate, dac&#259; te-ai n&#259;scut &#238;nainte de 2007, e destul de greu-spre imposibil.</p><p>Dac&#259; ai f&#259;cut &#537;coala &#238;n anii &#8217;90, probabil ai f&#259;cut toate vaccinurile recomandate, pentru c&#259; veneau s&#259; ni le fac&#259; &#238;n clas&#259;, &#537;i &#238;nc&#259; nu se g&#226;ndea nimeni s&#259; le refuze. 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C&#259;su&#539;ele reprezint&#259; vaccinurile.</figcaption></figure></div><p></p><p>Altfel, de abia &#238;n 2011 a ap&#259;rut <a href="https://legislatie.just.ro/Public/DetaliiDocumentAfis/130657">o eviden&#539;&#259; electronic&#259; a vaccin&#259;rilor</a> la nivel na&#539;ional, pentru copiii n&#259;scu&#539;i dup&#259; 2007: RENV &#8211; Registrul Na&#539;ional de Vaccinare, care a devenit obligatoriu &#537;i pentru adul&#539;i &#238;n 2022. Deci, <strong>oricine a f&#259;cut un vaccin dup&#259; 2022 la </strong><em><strong>un medic vaccinator</strong></em><strong> ar trebui s&#259; aib&#259; toate vaccinurile acolo</strong>, introduse de cel care le-a administrat.</p><p>Tu nu po&#539;i avea acces ca s&#259;-&#539;i vezi istoricul vaccinal, doar anumite categorii de personal medical au: medicii vaccinatori, direc&#539;iile de s&#259;n&#259;tate public&#259; pentru persoanele din lista medicilor din jude&#539;ul respectiv &#537;i Institutul Na&#539;ional de S&#259;n&#259;tate Public&#259;.</p><p>RENV nu este integrat cu registre de vaccinare din afara &#539;&#259;rii, dar <strong>cei care se vaccineaz&#259; &#238;n str&#259;in&#259;tate &#537;i revin &#238;n Rom&#226;nia pot &#238;nregistra aceste date &#238;n RENV, mi-a confirmat INSP</strong>.</p><h3><strong><br>Bonus:</strong></h3><p><strong>Dac&#259; c&#259;l&#259;tore&#537;ti, &#238;n special &#238;n afara Europei, s-ar putea s&#259; ai nevoie de anumite vaccinuri suplimentare</strong> sau de ni&#537;te medicamente profilactice, pentru c&#259; ai putea fi expus unor virusuri care la noi nu circul&#259;. </p><p>Te po&#539;i informa <a href="https://insp.gov.ro/centrul-national-de-supraveghere-si-control-al-bolilor-transmisibile-cnscbt/sfaturi-pentru-calatori/">de aici</a>, apoi ai nevoie de o programare la un cabinet de vaccin&#259;ri interna&#539;ionale &#8211; <a href="https://insp.gov.ro/download/cabinete-vaccinari-internationale/">lista e aici (Bucure&#537;ti &#537;i restul &#539;&#259;rii).</a></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VtHI!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa82b6ccc-ef88-4ddf-abdf-fbdb616b8e28_2841x3868.heic" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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vaccinul HPV</a></p><p>&#10145;&#65039; <a href="https://insp.gov.ro/download/cabinete-vaccinari-internationale/">Cabinete de vaccinare interna&#539;ional&#259;</a></p><p><strong>Dou&#259; grupuri de Facebook unde vei primi r&#259;spunsuri de la medici:</strong></p><p>&#10145;&#65039; <a href="https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100063642880339">Grupul de Vaccinologie al SNMF</a></p><p>&#10145;&#65039; <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/635670909795918">Vaccinuri &#537;i vaccinare</a></p><div><hr></div><p>&#536;i ultime dou&#259; g&#226;nduri de la mine: m-a&#537; bucura dac&#259; mi-ai scrie (printr-un reply la acest mail sau la <a href="mailto:sorana@substack.com">sorana@substack.com</a>) dac&#259; ai aflat ceva nou din aceast&#259; edi&#539;ie. Eu am pornit documentarea cu multe &#238;ntreb&#259;ri personale &#537;i a&#537; vrea s&#259; &#537;tiu dac&#259; &#539;i-au fost &#537;i &#539;ie de folos, &#537;i ce anume.</p><p>&#536;i, <em>off topic</em>, dac&#259; vrei s&#259; &#238;n&#539;elegi cine, cum, c&#226;t poate da c<strong>oncediu medical</strong> &#537;i cum se calculeaz&#259; banii aferen&#539;i, am povestit cu Maria Bucuria &#238;n <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyU4yFSjkEg">aceast&#259; edi&#539;ie din Starea S&#259;n&#259;t&#259;&#539;ii</a>, la care &#238;&#539;i recomand s&#259; te abonezi.</p><p>Mul&#539;umesc, pe cur&#226;nd!</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Diferențele dintre un psiholog și un psihoterapeut]]></title><description><![CDATA[&#537;i lista clinicilor unde po&#539;i face mamografii decontat]]></description><link>https://sorana.substack.com/p/diferenta-dintre-un-psiholog-si-un</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://sorana.substack.com/p/diferenta-dintre-un-psiholog-si-un</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Sorana Stănescu]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2025 04:00:58 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!g2OO!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd4b4009c-f496-4d72-97ed-e3641db3e9c5_3024x3024.heic" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salut!</p><p>Bine ne-am reg&#259;sit dup&#259; o pauz&#259; mai &#238;ndelungat&#259; dec&#226;t mi-a&#537; fi dorit, cauzat&#259; de alte proiecte &#238;n care m-am implicat &#537;i oboseala generat&#259; de ele. Sper &#238;ns&#259; ca edi&#539;ia de azi s&#259; fi meritat a&#537;teptarea. Vine &#238;n completarea celei anterioare, &#238;n care am publicat &#238;n premier&#259; <a href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/nou-lista-psihologilor-care-lucreaza?r=8k6pm">lista psihologilor &#537;i psihoterapeu&#539;ilor care lucreaz&#259; cu Casa de Asigur&#259;ri.</a></p><p>Azi vreau s&#259; l&#259;muresc ni&#537;te aspecte care &#537;i mie &#238;mi erau neclare: care e diferen&#539;a dintre un psiholog &#537;i un psihoterapeut, care sunt limitele competen&#539;ei fiec&#259;ruia, cum verific dac&#259; psihologul/psihoterapeutul meu chiar e ce spune, &#537;i nu e doar auto-intitulat, cum e reglementat&#259;, inclusiv birocratic, rela&#539;ia client - psiholog/psihoterapeut.</p><p>P&#226;n&#259; atunci &#238;ns&#259;, &#238;nc&#259; o veste bun&#259; &#537;i &#238;ndelung a&#537;teptat&#259;: CNAS a publicat<strong> lista clinicilor din toat&#259; &#539;ara unde po&#539;i face ecografii de s&#226;n &#537;i mamografii gratuit</strong>, cu bilet de trimitere de la medicul de familie. O g&#259;se&#537;ti &#238;n fi&#537;ierul de mai jos (nu, nu e &#537;i online), pe jude&#539;e, dar &#539;ine minte:</p><ul><li><p>trimiterea e valabil&#259; oriunde &#238;n &#539;ar&#259;, deci nu trebuie s&#259; mergi acolo unde locuie&#537;ti;</p></li><li><p>&#238;n tabele apar &#537;i re&#539;elele private mari, dar asta nu &#238;nseamn&#259; c&#259; &#238;n toate clinicile lor se pot face aceste investiga&#539;ii, pentru c&#259; nu toate au contract, deci sun&#259; &#238;nainte.</p></li></ul><div class="file-embed-wrapper" data-component-name="FileToDOM"><div class="file-embed-container-reader"><div class="file-embed-container-top"><image class="file-embed-thumbnail-default" src="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0Cy0!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack.com%2Fimg%2Fattachment_icon.svg"></image><div class="file-embed-details"><div class="file-embed-details-h1">List&#259; clinici ecografii de s&#226;n &#537;i mamografii decontat</div><div class="file-embed-details-h2">25.8KB &#8729; XLSX file</div></div><a class="file-embed-button wide" href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/api/v1/file/333fba3f-fb89-4ff8-af6e-f74f1802dc9b.xlsx"><span class="file-embed-button-text">Download</span></a></div><div class="file-embed-description">Sursa: Casa Na&#539;ional&#259; de Asigur&#259;ri de S&#259;n&#259;tate
*actualizare martie 2025</div><a class="file-embed-button narrow" href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/api/v1/file/333fba3f-fb89-4ff8-af6e-f74f1802dc9b.xlsx"><span class="file-embed-button-text">Download</span></a></div></div><p></p><h2>Diferen&#539;a dintre un psiholog &#537;i un psihoterapeut, &#238;n 7 puncte</h2><ol><li><p><strong>Un absolvent de Psihologie nu e automat psiholog</strong>, ci doar... absolvent de Psihologie. Ca s&#259; devin&#259; psiholog practicant trebuie s&#259; &#238;&#537;i ia un atestat de liber&#259; practic&#259; de la Colegiul Psihologilor (CoPsi) &#537;i minimum un an s&#259; lucreze sub sub supervizarea unui psiholog senior (acesta nu st&#259; cu el &#238;n cabinet, dar &#238;l mentoreaz&#259;, &#238;n &#537;edin&#539;e individuale &#537;i de grup, analizeaz&#259; &#238;mpreun&#259; cazuri mai grele etc.). De abia dup&#259; aceea devine autonom &#537;i poate &#238;nainte &#238;n &#8222;grad&#8221;.</p></li><li><p><strong>Psihoterapeut</strong> poate deveni un psiholog, un psihiatru sau un absolvent de teologie, filozofie, asisten&#539;&#259; social&#259;, psihopedagogie dup&#259; ce face un program de formare de lung&#259; durat&#259; (adic&#259; o &#537;coal&#259; de psihoterapie de minimum trei ani) &#537;i o perioad&#259; de supervizare de minimum doi ani. Cei care nu au f&#259;cut psihologie trebuie s&#259; &#238;&#537;i completeze studiile cu un pachet de discipline din psihologie.</p></li><li><p><strong>Un psiholog nu are voie, legal, s&#259; fac&#259; psihoterapie, dac&#259; nu a f&#259;cut (sau e &#238;n curs de a face) o &#537;coal&#259; de formare &#238;n psihoterapie. Deci un psiholog nu e automat &#537;i psihoterapeut, nu c&#259;de&#539;i &#238;n capcana asta.</strong></p></li><li><p>Un psiholog clinician are anumite competen&#539;e: evaluare, interven&#539;ie &#537;i consiliere psihologic&#259; primar&#259;, clar definite, &#537;i cu un num&#259;r de &#537;edin&#539;e prestabilit, &#537;i poate aplica diferite teste (ex: de personalitate, de comportament). </p><p>Spre diferen&#539;&#259;, psihoterapeutul are un num&#259;r de nelimitat de &#537;edin&#539;e, pentru c&#259; lucreaz&#259; pe chestiuni mai de profunzime, dar nu poate aplica teste &#537;i face evalu&#259;rile clinice pe care le face psihologul.</p></li><li><p>Dar, da, destul de mul&#539;i sunt &#537;i psihologi, &#537;i psihoterapeu&#539;i. Adic&#259; au terminat Psihologie, au f&#259;cut &#537;i o &#537;coal&#259; de formare &#238;n psihoterapie &#537;i au atestat de liber&#259; practic&#259; &#238;n ambele.</p></li><li><p>C&#226;nd intri &#238;ntr-o rela&#539;ie terapeutic&#259;, <strong>psihologul sau psihoterapeutul este obligat s&#259; &#238;&#539;i dea un contract de prest&#259;ri servicii psihologice &#238;n care specific&#259; ce anume ofer&#259;</strong> (ex: aplicarea de <a href="https://www.copsi.ro/index.php/metodologie-menu/metode-si-tehnici">teste psihometrice</a>, interven&#539;ii psihologice simptomatice sau pe probleme de x, y, z) &#537;i num&#259;rul de &#537;edin&#539;e; un acord de consim&#539;&#259;m&#226;nt informat (ca la medic), iar dup&#259; fiecare sesiune trebuie s&#259; prime&#537;ti factur&#259;. Dac&#259; nu prime&#537;ti oricare dintre acestea sau dac&#259; sim&#539;i c&#259; &#238;&#537;i dep&#259;&#537;e&#537;te competen&#539;ele (vezi mai jos), &#238;l <a href="https://www.copsi.ro/images/files/comisii/Formular_plangere.pdf">po&#539;i reclama la CoPsi</a>.</p></li><li><p><strong>Ca s&#259; verifici dac&#259; psihologul sau psihoterapeutul la care vrei s&#259; mergi chiar e ceea ce pretinde</strong>, du-te pe site-ul CoPsI / Registre / Registrul Unic al Psihologilor (R.U.P.) / R.U.P. Partea I &#8211; atestate de liber&#259; practic&#259; &#537;i descarc&#259; fi&#537;ierul. Sau folose&#537;te <a href="https://listapsihologi.ro/ro">acest site</a> dezvoltat de Code for Romania, care interogheaz&#259; regulat baza de date CoPsi.</p></li></ol><blockquote><p>Ce te intereseaz&#259; din tabelul CoPsi sunt specialitatea (&#238;n cazul &#259;sta &#8211; psihologie clinic&#259;, consiliere psihologic&#259; sau psihoterapie + de care psihoterapie), treapta de specializare (practicant, specialist sau principal), forma de exercitare (sub supervizare sau autonom).</p></blockquote><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Cu un abonament lunar de 7 euro sau anual, de 80, m&#259; sus&#539;ii s&#259; explic informa&#539;ii esen&#539;iale despre serviciile medicale la care ar trebui s&#259; ai acces.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p>&#536;i acum varianta mai detaliat&#259;, cu interven&#539;ii din partea lui Mugur Cium&#259;geanu, psiholog clinician &#537;i psihoterapeut, lector univ. dr. la Facultatea de Psihologie, Universitatea de Vest din Timi&#537;oara, fostul pre&#537;edinte al comisiei de psihologie clinic&#259;, consiliere &#537;i psihoterapie din CoPsi, &#537;i a Gabrielei Udrea, psiholog clinician &#537;i psihoterapeut. Ambii sunt &#537;i supervizori, deci lucreaz&#259; &#537;i cu c&#226;teva zeci de debutan&#539;i &#238;n fiecare an. Le sunt recunosc&#259;toare pentru r&#259;bdarea cu care mi-au r&#259;spuns la toate &#238;ntreb&#259;rile.<br></p><h3><strong>Ce este un psiholog?</strong></h3><p>Un absolvent de Psihologie care a primit atestatul de liber&#259; practic&#259; (care se ob&#539;ine <a href="https://www.copsi.ro/images/files/dosare/Anexa%201A%20-%20continut%20dosar%20atestare%20profesionala%20nivelul%20I_practicant%20_supervizare_clinica.pdf">printr-un dosar</a>, nu un examen de admitere &#238;n profesie), un num&#259;r unic &#537;i un cod de paraf&#259; &#238;n baza c&#259;rora poate profesa, &#537;i care s-a &#238;nscris &#238;n procesul obligatoriu de supervizare (am explicat mai sus ce &#238;nseamn&#259;), pe care trebuie s&#259; &#238;l &#537;i pl&#259;teasc&#259;. </p><p><strong>Nu exist&#259; o prob&#259; scris&#259; pentru a intra &#238;n supervizare. Din acel moment, devine psiholog </strong><em><strong>practicant</strong></em><strong> &#537;i poate s&#259; profeseze legal.</strong></p><p>&#206;n psihologia clinic&#259;, supervizarea dureaz&#259; minimum un an &#537;i minimum 100 de ore &#238;n sesiuni individuale sau de grup. &#206;n timpul &#259;sta poate avea clien&#539;i &#537;i poate face evalu&#259;ri psihologice contrasemnate de supervizor.</p><p>C&#226;nd termin&#259;, ca s&#259; devin&#259; autonom, are nevoie s&#259; dovedeasc&#259; o form&#259; legal&#259; de exercitare a profesiei (c&#259; a fost angajat sau a lucrat &#238;n cabinetul propriu) minimum un an, c&#226;t timp a fost &#238;n supervizare, de un raport favorabil din partea supervizorului, iar cei pe sistem Bologna, care au f&#259;cut facultatea &#238;n trei ani, e obligatoriu s&#259; fi terminat &#537;i masteratul &#238;n domeniul specializ&#259;rii, cei cu patru ani &#8211; nu.</p><p>Specializ&#259;rile sunt: psihologie clinic&#259;; consiliere psihologic&#259;; psihoterapie; psihologia muncii &#537;i organiza&#539;ional&#259;; a transporturilor; psihologia aplicat&#259; &#238;n servicii; psihologie educa&#539;ional&#259;, consiliere &#537;colar&#259; &#537;i voca&#539;ional&#259; &#537;i psihologia specializat&#259; &#238;n domeniul securit&#259;&#539;ii na&#539;ionale. </p><p><strong>Cei pe care noi &#238;i c&#259;ut&#259;m &#8222;c&#226;nd vrem s&#259; mergem la psiholog&#8221; sunt </strong><em><strong>clinicienii, consilierii sau psihoterapeu&#539;ii</strong></em><strong>.</strong></p><blockquote><p><strong>Un psiholog poate avea mai multe specializ&#259;ri, dar pentru fiecare trebuie s&#259; treac&#259; prin supervizare &#537;i s&#259; termine un masterat.</strong> </p></blockquote><p>Pentru fiecare specializare e nevoie de educa&#539;ie continu&#259; (ca la medici sau la profesori): minimum 10 credite obligatorii/an, unde num&#259;rul de credite e de regul&#259; echivalent cu num&#259;rul de ore (deci dintr-un curs de weekend, de 10 ore, deja ai ob&#539;inut creditele obligatorii, cu men&#539;iunea c&#259; toate aceste cursuri trebuie s&#259; fie acreditate de CoPsi).</p><p>Dup&#259; psiholog practicant, gradele urm&#259;toare sunt specialist &#537;i principal, care se ob&#539;in dup&#259; c&#226;te cinci ani vechime, cursuri, un portofoliu &#537;i un interviu. De&#537;i ar trebui s&#259; existe &#537;i un examen scris, el nu a fost &#238;nc&#259; implementat, mi-a explicat Gabriela Udrea.</p><p><strong>Toate detaliile despre atestarea profesional&#259; sunt &#238;n <a href="https://legislatie.just.ro/Public/DetaliiDocumentAfis/248536">aceste norme</a>.</strong></p><blockquote><p>Practic, cineva care a terminat facultatea dup&#259; 2008 (prima genera&#539;ie Bologna) &#537;i a &#238;nceput imediat un masterat ar trebui ca &#238;n doi ani s&#259; devin&#259; autonom. </p></blockquote><p>Aici sunt &#238;ns&#259; <strong>dou&#259; &#8222;sc&#259;p&#259;ri&#8221; &#238;n modul cum e reglementat&#259; profesia</strong>:</p><ul><li><p>Ca s&#259; dovede&#537;ti c&#259; ai lucrat un an nu trebuie s&#259; ar&#259;&#539;i contracte de prest&#259;ri servicii sau registre de clien&#539;i, ci doar c&#259; ai avut un contract de munc&#259; sau propriul cabinet func&#539;ional din punct de vedere legal (asta &#238;nseamn&#259; c&#259; po&#539;i s&#259; fi avut foarte pu&#539;ini clien&#539;i sau chiar deloc, mai ales c&#259; e&#537;ti la &#238;nceput, de aceea unii iau cazuri pro bono sau cazuri recomandate de supervizorii lor);</p></li><li><p>Nu prea te d&#259; nimeni afar&#259; din supervizare dac&#259; ai fost lene&#537; &#537;i nu &#539;i-ai f&#259;cut num&#259;rul de ore &#238;ntr-un an, mai ales &#238;ntr-un ora&#537; mai mic, unde &#537;i cererea e mai mic&#259;, de aceea vei vedea &#238;n Registrul CoPsi psihologi care apar &#238;n supervizare de prin 2011-2012. Recent, supervizorilor li s-a limitat &#238;ns&#259; num&#259;rul la 40 de superviza&#539;i pe an, deci ar trebui s&#259; fie &#238;n interesul lor s&#259; nu-&#537;i blocheze locurile mult timp.</p></li></ul><p><strong>Sunt zonele astea gri poten&#539;iale riscuri pentru clien&#539;i? </strong>Da, confirm&#259; psihoterapeuta Gabriela Udrea. &#8222;Avem o calitate sc&#259;zut&#259; a serviciilor tocmai pentru c&#259; exist&#259; unele formalit&#259;&#539;i pe care le po&#539;i bifa u&#537;or, pe c&#226;nd altele sunt f&#259;cute s&#259; fie greoaie sau eludate.&#8221; </p><p>De exemplu, unii psihologi &#238;&#537;i iau dreptul de practic&#259; pe toate specialit&#259;&#539;ile (a&#537;a numi&#539;ii psihologi &#8222;cu portofoliu complet&#8221;), intr&#259; &#238;n supervizare pentru fiecare dintre ele &#537;i profeseaz&#259; a&#537;a foarte mult timp, f&#259;r&#259; s&#259; se &#238;ntrebe nimeni de ce sunt &#238;n supervizare &#537;i dup&#259; cinci ani.</p><p>A&#537; fi foarte atent&#259; &#537;i dac&#259; specialistul pe care &#238;l cau&#539;i apare &#238;n registru ca suspendat &#8211; se poate ca informa&#539;ia s&#259; nu fie actualizat&#259; sau motivul s&#259; fie neplata cotiza&#539;iei anuale (asta e men&#539;ionat), dar tot mi se pare c&#259; spune ceva despre integritatea lui. </p><p><em>Men&#539;ionez aceste limit&#259;ri ca s&#259; te ajute &#8222;s&#259; cite&#537;ti&#8221; mai bine acel registru, experien&#539;a &#537;i limitele de competen&#539;&#259; ale celui pe care &#238;l alegi ca s&#259; intri &#238;ntr-o rela&#539;ie terapeutic&#259;.</em></p><div class="captioned-button-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/p/diferenta-dintre-un-psiholog-si-un?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="CaptionedButtonToDOM"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">E posibil s&#259; ai un prieten care se g&#226;nde&#537;te s&#259; mearg&#259; la psiholog. Trimite-i edi&#539;ia asta. </p></div><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/p/diferenta-dintre-un-psiholog-si-un?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/diferenta-dintre-un-psiholog-si-un?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p></div><h3><strong><br>Ce &#238;nseamn&#259; competen&#539;ele corespunz&#259;toare unei specialit&#259;&#539;i?</strong></h3><p>Reprezint&#259; ce <em>ar trebui s&#259; &#537;tie</em> &#537;i ce <em>ar putea s&#259; fac&#259;</em> un psiholog pe specialitatea sa. </p><div class="pullquote"><p>&#8222;C&#226;nd termin&#259;m facultatea, competen&#539;ele noastre sunt foarte de baz&#259;&#8221;, explic&#259; Mugur Cium&#259;geanu. &#8222;&#206;n&#539;elegi cum se aplic&#259; un test, ce &#238;nseamn&#259; o preg&#259;tire pentru evaluare, pentru o interven&#539;ie scurt&#259;, dar nu &#537;tim s&#259; facem mai nimic. Vine masteratul, care, &#238;ncetul cu &#238;ncetul te profesionalizeaz&#259; &#537;i &#238;&#539;i cre&#537;te nivelul de competen&#539;e specifice pentru ramura aplicativ&#259; pe care ai ales-o.&#8221;</p></div><p>Iar apoi depinde de tine s&#259; &#238;&#539;i cre&#537;ti continuu competen&#539;ele, unde asta poate &#238;nsemna &#537;i s&#259; <a href="https://www.copsi.ro/index.php/metodologie-menu/metode-si-tehnici">cump&#259;r un test</a> &#537;i s&#259; fac un curs asociat testului respectiv, &#537;i un curs despre administrarea propriului cabinet, dar &#537;i un curs despre, de exemplu, cum lucrezi cu p&#259;rin&#539;i cu probleme de s&#259;n&#259;tate mintal&#259;, ca s&#259; previi apari&#539;ia acestor probleme la copiii lor (curs pe care Cium&#259;geanu inten&#539;ioneaz&#259; s&#259; &#238;l fac&#259; &#537;i s&#259;-l acrediteze).</p><p>Descrierea detaliat&#259; a competen&#539;elor pentru fiecare specialitate &#537;i nivel e &#238;n <a 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17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Cartolin&#259; g&#226;ndit&#259; &#537;i desenat&#259; de Oana Barbonie, din pachetul <a href="https://carturesti.ro/carte/introspection-cards-4287891015">Introspection cards</a>.</figcaption></figure></div><h3><strong><br><br>Ce este un psihoterapeut?</strong></h3><p>&#206;n Rom&#226;nia, psihoterapeut devii urm&#226;nd <strong>un program de formare de minimum trei ani oferit de &#537;coli sau institute recunoscute de CoPsi, &#537;i minimum 200 de ore de supervizare</strong> individual&#259; sau de grup, &#238;n decurs de doi ani. </p><p><strong>Psihoterapia nu se studiaz&#259; la facultate.</strong></p><p>Pot s&#259; devin&#259; psihoterapeu&#539;i nu doar absolven&#539;ii de Psihologie, ci &#537;i reziden&#539;ii sau speciali&#537;tii &#238;n psihiatrie, absolven&#539;ii de teologie, psihopedagogie, asisten&#539;&#259; social&#259;, filozofie, dac&#259; &#238;&#537;i completeaz&#259; studiile.</p><p>&#536;i psihologii autonomi sau cei afla&#539;i &#238;n supervizare pot face o &#537;coal&#259; de psihoterapie &#238;n paralel, ceea ce mul&#539;i dintre ei &#537;i fac.<br></p><h3><strong><br>Ce pot face un psiholog, un consilier, respectiv un psihoterapeut?</strong></h3><p><em>Nu acela&#537;i lucru</em> este r&#259;spunsul scurt.</p><p>R&#259;spunsul mai lung, dar care merit&#259; parcurs e &#238;n <a href="https://www.copsi.ro/images/2._Ghid_Competente_de_evaluare_si_interventie_pe_specializari_CPCP_BD_-_integrat_1.pdf">acest ghid din 2022</a>.</p><ul><li><p><strong>Psihologul are dreptul s&#259; utilizeze <a href="https://www.copsi.ro/index.php/metodologie-menu/metode-si-tehnici">teste de evaluare</a> &#537;i face interven&#539;ii minime, suportive</strong> <strong>de maximum 6 &#537;edin&#539;e/simptom</strong> pentru adul&#539;ii care se prezint&#259; voluntar (adic&#259; noi). Asta nu &#238;nseamn&#259; c&#259; nu pot lucra cu o persoan&#259; mai mult de 6 &#537;edin&#539;e, ci c&#259; trebuie s&#259; fie 6 per simptom: de exemplu, 6 pentru probleme de somn, 6 pentru anxietate interpersonal&#259;, &#537;i totul trebuie s&#259; apar&#259; &#238;n contract.</p></li><li><p><strong>Consilierul psihologic poate face interven&#539;ii de p&#226;n&#259; la 20 de &#537;edin&#539;e/obiectiv terapeutic</strong> concret: probleme de via&#539;&#259; u&#537;oare, emo&#539;ionale, dar nu tr&#259;s&#259;turi &#537;i vulnerabilit&#259;&#539;i de personalitate sau patologie psihiatric&#259;. (Practic, consilierul are competen&#539;e mai extinse dec&#226;t psihologul, dar mai reduse dec&#226;t psihoterapeutul.)</p></li><li><p><strong>Psihoterapeutul poate face interven&#539;ii care dureaz&#259; ani de zile, pe obiective mai generice </strong>(ex.: schimbarea unor tipare de reac&#539;ie). Trebuie s&#259;-&#539;i spun&#259; ce metod&#259; psihoterapeutic&#259; va folosi. Nu poate aplica teste &#537;i nu poate evalua din punct de vedere clinic (ex: dac&#259; o persoan&#259; are ADHD, autism sau dificult&#259;&#539;i &#537;colare &#8211; asta face clinicianul).</p></li></ul><blockquote><p>At&#226;t psihologul, c&#226;t &#537;i consilierul pot recomanda la final continuarea &#238;n psihoterapie sau alte forme de sprijin psiho-social, dup&#259; cum psihoterapeutul poate cere unui psiholog clinician o evaluare mai aprofundat&#259; a cazului.</p></blockquote><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Aboneaz&#259;-te, dac&#259; vrei s&#259; prime&#537;ti informatii despre cum navighezi sistemul medical. Dac&#259; vrei s&#259;-mi sus&#539;ii munca, po&#539;i face un abonament pl&#259;tit.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p class="cta-caption"></p><h3><strong><br>Nu fi&#539;i clien&#539;i pasivi</strong></h3><p><em>&#8222;Am auzit c&#259; sunte&#539;i psiholog, face&#539;i-m&#259; bine.&#8221;</em></p><p>Varianta asta a func&#539;ionat ani de zile, atrage aten&#539;ia Mugur Cium&#259;geanu. &#8222;Tu te duceai aleatoriu la cineva &#537;i nemereai &#238;ntr-o direc&#539;ie sau alta.&#8221;</p><p>&#8222;Or <strong>poten&#539;ialii clien&#539;i ar trebui s&#259; &#238;n&#539;eleag&#259; nivelul de competen&#539;&#259; al psihologului</strong>&#8221;, insist&#259; el. &#8222;Iar noi ar trebui s&#259; spunem inclusiv pentru ce teste avem licen&#539;&#259; &#537;i care e nivelul nostru de expertiz&#259;. De exemplu, dac&#259; la mine vine cineva cu un p&#259;rinte suspect de demen&#539;&#259;, pot s&#259; fac o evaluare &#537;i s&#259;-i spun: nu am expertiz&#259; &#537;i nici teste de evaluare de patologie la v&#226;rstnici, dar &#238;&#539;i pot recomanda pe cineva care face asta.&#8221;</p><p>La fel cum, dac&#259; psihologul constat&#259; o depresie sever&#259;, nu are dreptul s&#259; intervin&#259;, ci trebuie s&#259; &#238;l trimit&#259; pe client la psihiatru sau psihoterapeut.</p><p>Da, e foarte greu pentru o persoan&#259; s&#259; &#238;&#537;i dea seama c&#226;nd un specialist &#238;n s&#259;n&#259;tate mintal&#259; &#238;&#537;i dep&#259;&#537;e&#537;te competen&#539;ele, admite Gabriela Udrea. Tocmai de aceea e nevoie de o mai clar&#259; reglementare a profesiei &#537;i de mai mult&#259; transparen&#539;&#259; din partea specialistului.<br><br></p><h3><strong>&#8222;Consilier/consultant de dezvoltare personal&#259;&#8221;, &#8222;mentor rela&#539;ional&#8221;, &#8222;consultant spiritual&#8221; &#537;i alte titulaturi inventate</strong></h3><p>Ca &#537;i cum tot ce am &#238;ncercat s&#259; explic p&#226;n&#259; acum nu ar fi suficient de alambicat, mai e un aspect de care trebuie s&#259; fim con&#537;tien&#539;i: &#238;n ultimii ani vedem o avalan&#537;&#259; de &#8222;speciali&#537;ti&#8221; care pretind c&#259; pot lucra cu emo&#539;iile &#537;i psihicul t&#259;u, c&#259; te pot ajuta s&#259; te reinventezi spiritual, s&#259; te vindeci de adic&#539;ii &#537;i traume, s&#259; &#238;&#539;i &#238;mbun&#259;t&#259;&#539;e&#537;ti rela&#539;iile &#537;i multe altele. </p><p>De multe ori, combin&#259; elemente minimale de psihologie cu ezoterism, misticism &#537;i pseudo-&#537;tiin&#539;&#259;, &#238;ntr-un mod extrem de periculos, care risc&#259; s&#259; ad&#226;nceasc&#259; dezechilibrul psiho-emo&#539;ional &#238;n care se g&#259;sesc cei care apeleaz&#259; la astfel de practici (poate ai auzit &#537;i tu de persoane care s-au dus &#238;n diferite retreat-uri &#537;i s-au &#238;ntors decompensate, pentru c&#259; li s-au activat diverse fobii sau traume din trecut).</p><p>Partea &#537;i mai complicat&#259; e c&#259; aceste &#8222;profesii&#8221; ori nu exist&#259;, ori nu sunt reglementate &#238;n niciun fel &#537;i nici nu pot fi trase la r&#259;spundere c&#226;nd &#238;&#537;i dep&#259;&#537;esc competen&#539;ele (neclar care sunt alea) sau fac de-a dreptul r&#259;u clien&#539;ilor. </p><p>Nici CoPsi, nici Ministerul S&#259;n&#259;t&#259;&#539;ii (&#238;n ideea c&#259; vorbim de chestiuni de s&#259;n&#259;tate mintal&#259;) nu au autoritate asupra lor.</p><p>Zona cea mai gri e, poate, <strong>consilierul pentru dezvoltare personal&#259;</strong>, care <a href="https://codcor.ro/2423-specialisti-in-domeniul-resurselor-umane-si-de-personal#consultant-dezvoltare-personala">exist&#259; &#238;n COR</a> din 2013, &#539;ine de domeniul resurselor umane, dar care nu poate intra &#238;n chestiuni de s&#259;n&#259;tate mintal&#259; sau personalitate, a&#537;a cum gre&#537;it se &#238;nt&#226;mpl&#259; uneori. </p><blockquote><p>Oricine a terminat o facultate, indiferent de specialitate, face un curs de dou&#259; zile, de multe ori online (nu exagerez, c&#259;uta&#539;i pe Google), acreditat de Ministerul Muncii &#537;i, gata, e consilier pentru dezvoltare personal&#259;. Ceea ce e &#238;n regul&#259;, at&#226;ta vreme c&#226;t r&#259;m&#226;ne &#238;n <a href="https://www.rubinian.com/produse_fise_de_post_cor.php?id=PRUFP0385">fi&#537;a postului</a>.</p></blockquote><p>A&#537;adar, recomandarea e s&#259; fi&#539;i foarte aten&#539;i pe m&#226;na cui v&#259; l&#259;sa&#539;i &#238;ngrijirea psiho-emo&#539;ional&#259;. A&#537;a cum nu te-ai duce la un doctor care nu e doctor sau la un mecanic auto care nu e mecanic, nu te duce la un psiholog care nu e psiholog sau la vreun alt &#8222;specialist&#8221; care pretinde c&#259; te vindec&#259;. Riscurile sunt mult, mult prea mari.</p><h3><strong><br>Reglement&#259;ri imediate necesare</strong></h3><ol><li><p><strong>Serviciile psihologice ar trebui s&#259; devin&#259; servicii de s&#259;n&#259;tate</strong>. </p><p>Acum, nici evaluarea &#537;i consilierea psihologic&#259;, nici psihoterapia nu sunt considerate servicii de s&#259;n&#259;tate, pentru c&#259; <a href="https://codcor.ro/2634-psihologi">&#238;n COR</a>, <strong>psihologii sunt &#238;n categoria speciali&#537;tilor din domeniul social &#537;i religios.</strong> </p><p>De aceea, ei nici nu pot intra direct &#238;n contract cu Casa de Asigur&#259;ri de S&#259;n&#259;tate, ci numai prin intermediul unui medic, un proces complicat pentru toat&#259; lumea, despre care <a href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/ce-s-a-schimbat-daca-vrei-sa-mergi?r=8k6pm">am scris aici</a>. Deci o prim&#259; schimbare, pe care &#537;i Mugur Cium&#259;geanu o sus&#539;ine, este includerea psihologilor &#238;n zona profesiilor de s&#259;n&#259;tate.<br>&#536;i nu doar c&#259; procesul e complicat, dar un psiholog care ar vrea s&#259;-l &#238;ncerce, pur &#537;i simplu nu prime&#537;te de la CoPsI niciun fel de informa&#539;ie despre cum poate face asta (nici m&#259;car pe site nu e nimic), iar Cium&#259;geanu a confirmat c&#259; trebuie s&#259; caute un medic colaborator pe Google sau prin rela&#539;ii.<br></p></li><li><p><strong>Servicii de s&#259;n&#259;tate vs. wellbeing</strong>. </p><p>&#8222;Ar trebui s&#259; fie clar c&#259; sunt dou&#259; situa&#539;ii &#238;n care putem primi ajutor, &#537;i ele ar trebui reflectate &#238;n dou&#259; tipuri de oferte de servicii&#8221;, explic&#259; Cium&#259;geanu:</p></li></ol><ul><li><p>C&#226;nd am o problem&#259; de s&#259;n&#259;tate mintal&#259; de tip diagnostic psihiatric: depresie, anxietate, probleme de alimenta&#539;ie, ajutorul psihologic (oferit de psiholog, consilier sau psihoterapeut) ar trebui s&#259; fie gratuit pentru toat&#259; lumea &#537;i inclus &#238;n asigurare.</p></li><li><p>C&#226;nd am o problem&#259; asociat&#259; vie&#539;ii obi&#537;nuite (nevoia de cre&#537;tere, autocunoa&#537;tere, suferin&#539;&#259; dup&#259; o desp&#259;r&#539;ire), nu ajung la psihiatru &#537;i nu sunt pasibil de un diagnostic, ajutorul ar trebui s&#259; fie contra-cost.</p></li></ul><p>Practic, <strong>&#537;i statul, &#537;i noi, ar trebui s&#259; diferen&#539;iem foarte clar &#238;ntre servicii de s&#259;n&#259;tate &#537;i psiho-sociale</strong> (c&#226;nd lucrezi cu o persoan&#259; cu schizofrenie care nu mai are abilitatea s&#259; pl&#259;teasc&#259; facturi, de exemplu) <strong>&#537;i cele de wellbeing</strong> &#537;i s&#259; ne asum&#259;m costurile ca atare.</p><p>Or, <strong>acum, serviciile psihologice sunt decontate pentru cei cu un diagnostic psihiatric &#537;i pentru cei cu alte probleme majore de s&#259;n&#259;tate pentru care sprijinul psihologic contribuie la vindecare sau la o calitate a vie&#539;ii mai bun&#259;</strong>, dar sistemul este incredibil de greoi, psihologii care fac asta <a href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/nou-lista-psihologilor-care-lucreaza?r=8k6pm">sunt foarte pu&#539;ini</a>, &#537;i num&#259;rul de &#537;edin&#539;e/client este limitat.</p><p>Aten&#539;ie: pentru unele afec&#539;iuni se deconteaz&#259; doar evaluare &#537;i consiliere psihologic&#259;, dar pentru altele - &#537;i psihoterapie (vezi la <a href="https://cnas.ro/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Binder1-5.pdf">pag. 138, aici</a>.)<br><br></p><h3><strong>&#206;n loc de concluzie</strong></h3><p>S&#259; lucrezi cu mintea &#537;i emo&#539;iile omului reprezint&#259; un privilegiu &#537;i o responsabiiltate, iar munca emo&#539;ional&#259; pe care psihologii/psihoterapeu&#539;ii trebuie s&#259; o fac&#259; ei cu &#238;n&#537;i&#537;i toat&#259; via&#539;a e enorm&#259;. </p><p>&#206;n plus, este o profesie &#238;n care trebuie s&#259; &#238;nve&#539;i tot timpul, pe banii t&#259;i &#8211; supervizarea, form&#259;rile &#238;n psihoterapie, cursurile, testele de evaluare cost&#259; mii de euro. Cu at&#226;t mai mult, cred, deci, c&#259; este o profesie care trebuie respectat&#259; &#8211; &#537;i de practican&#539;ii, &#537;i de beneficiarii ei &#8211; &#537;i trebuie delimitat&#259; clar de &#537;arlatani &#537;i pseudo-&#537;tiin&#539;&#259;.</p><p>Una dintre concluziile amare ale acestei document&#259;ri e c&#259; organiza&#539;ia care reglementeaz&#259; exercitarea profesiei, Colegiul Psihologilor, nu reprezint&#259; cu adev&#259;rat interesele breslei.</p><p>&#536;i asta se vede &#238;n confuzia pe care absolven&#539;ii de Psihologie trebuie s-o navigheze singuri (parcurs profesional lung &#537;i costisitor, alegerea mentorilor, a &#537;colilor &#537;i a cursurilor de formare), &#238;n e&#537;ecul din negocierea cu CNAS (nu doar c&#259; <a href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/ce-s-a-schimbat-daca-vrei-sa-mergi?r=8k6pm">procesul e complicat</a> at&#226;t pentru client, c&#226;t &#537;i pentru psiholog, dar regulile s-au &#238;n&#259;sprit &#238;n 2023, iar dac&#259; un psiholog vrea s&#259; ofere servicii decontate, CoPsi nu ofer&#259; niciun fel de ghidaj), &#238;n lipsa unui mod de asigurare &#537;i verificare a calit&#259;&#539;ii serviciilor psihologice de c&#259;tre client &#537;i, nu &#238;n ultimul r&#226;nd, &#238;n site-ul absolut disfunc&#539;ional al Colegiului.</p><p><strong>Bonus:</strong></p><ul><li><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/IsttTratamentulTraumei/posts/pfbid027DhadPjPVYg5AEXBLRABQMySkG4Fm9Nkc2HbApaQk4BoFcHbW6ZmQDX2EmGmZ8qYl">Ce &#238;nseamn&#259; un proces psihoterapeutic corect &#537;i s&#259;n&#259;tos?</a> Un articol de la Institutul pentru Studiul &#537;i Tratamentul Traumei &#537;i <a href="https://www.facebook.com/IsttTratamentulTraumei/posts/pfbid02LbXe59NLdPo3ykvDHYzVmMiYfXa9pSMr3X5sFhVHu9fiTNARWA9gsyjE2tahYcZBl">un interviu</a> cu Diana Vasile, pre&#537;edinta lui.</p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.simona-adam.ro/coach-clinician-psihoterapeut/">La coach, la psiholog sau la psihoterapeut?</a> Un articol de Simona Adam-Bercu, c&#259;reia &#238;i mul&#539;umesc pentru sprijinul &#238;n procesul de documentare.</p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.verywellmind.com/how-to-choose-the-best-type-of-therapy-for-you-6500320">Despre diferitele tipuri de psihoterapie</a> (&#238;n englez&#259;). Mi-a pl&#259;cut mult cum sunt explicate <a href="https://www.verywellmind.com/what-is-cognitive-behavior-therapy-2795747?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email">terapia cognitiv-comportamental&#259;</a> &#537;i <a href="https://www.verywellmind.com/what-is-psychoanalytic-therapy-2795467">cea psihanalitic&#259;</a>. <br></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/p/diferenta-dintre-un-psiholog-si-un?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/diferenta-dintre-un-psiholog-si-un?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p></li></ul><div><hr></div><p><strong>Bine de &#537;tiut:</strong></p><ul><li><p><a href="https://www.salvaticopiii.ro/infomama">Aplica&#539;ie rom&#226;neasc&#259;</a> pentru gravide &#537;i mame. Tot ce trebuie s&#259; &#537;tii pe parcursul sarcinii &#537;i &#238;n primul an de via&#539;&#259; a copilului.</p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.paginadepsihologie.ro/optiuneamindsight-cinci-lectii-mindsight-pentru-alegerea-terapeutului-potrivit/?fbclid=IwY2xjawJ4TGxleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETBwb01pcDBRbjk0T0NETFg3AR6kfNYmpKm6v_nDej6-SGrKDbh_BjQGiPQE7UmG4jIiwhVA97YLP7Pgs5sNhQ_aem_MEud3t8-IcWq0t-SDNDK2w">5 lec&#539;ii despre cum s&#259; &#238;&#539;i alegi terapeutul potrivit.</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.cristinalauby.ro/centrele-medicale-de-permanenta/?fbclid=IwY2xjawJwk2RleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHTRlJOk-_DgcUcO_kHHz-C2p1oBL1qPEks3Tk89IqheVXMigRRHRs8C0Ww_aem_GNqN4Fu3lXXnlXLhsNI97A">Harta centrelor de permanen&#539;&#259; din &#539;ar&#259;</a>. Acestea sunt mici unit&#259;&#539;i de primiri urgen&#539;e care func&#539;ioneaz&#259; &#238;ndeosebi &#238;n rural, noaptea, &#238;n weekenduri &#537;i de s&#259;rb&#259;tori. Creat&#259; de Cristina Lauby, gazda <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/s%C4%83n%C4%83tate-zi-de-zi-podcast/id1676389052">podcastului S&#259;n&#259;tate zi de zi</a>. </p></li><li><p><a href="https://blog.teleskop.ro/lansare-program-smart/">Program online, gratuit, pentru &#537;coli</a> despre cum recuno&#537;ti un AVC &#537;i siguran&#539;a &#238;n trafic.</p></li></ul><p>Mul&#539;umesc, ne revedem luna viitoare!</p><p>Sorana</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Nou: lista psihologilor care lucrează cu Casa în București și în țară ]]></title><description><![CDATA[plus screening pentru cancerul de prostat&#259; &#537;i biletul de trimitere pentru gravide]]></description><link>https://sorana.substack.com/p/nou-lista-psihologilor-care-lucreaza</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://sorana.substack.com/p/nou-lista-psihologilor-care-lucreaza</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Sorana Stănescu]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 26 Feb 2025 05:01:26 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jRIx!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0cb93abb-a5fd-4b94-98b3-d726a92efcd4_1080x1440.heic" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salut,</p><p>Azi avem o edi&#539;ie cu mai multe subiecte punctuale, mai degrab&#259; ni&#537;te actualiz&#259;ri &#537;i complet&#259;ri la subiecte pe care le-am documentat lunile trecute, plus ni&#537;te documente extrem de importante publicate <strong>&#238;n premier&#259;</strong>: lista spitalelor care au psihologi &#537;i a cabinetelor psihologice din Bucure&#537;ti &#537;i din &#539;ar&#259; care lucreaz&#259; cu Casa &#8211; deci unde te po&#539;i duce cu bilet de trimitere.</p><p>&#206;n Bucure&#537;ti, de exemplu, sunt 157 de cabinete, dar speciali&#537;ti sunt chiar mai mul&#539;i, pentru c&#259; &#238;n unele locuri sunt mai mul&#539;i care lucreaz&#259; cu Casa.</p><p>&#206;nt&#226;i de toate &#238;ns&#259;, vreau s&#259; v&#259; mul&#539;umesc tuturor celor v-a&#539;i abonat &#537;i celor care v-a&#539;i f&#259;cut un abonament pl&#259;tit dup&#259; <a href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/cum-sa-ti-depistezi-riscul-de-cancer?r=8k6pm">ultima edi&#539;ie</a>, despre screening-ul de cancer. Suntem cu 500, respectiv cu 6, mai mul&#539;i (&#537;i &#238;n total &#8211; peste 8.500). &#536;tiu c&#259; a contribuit &#537;i <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxSfXMbG_4E">interviul pe care mi l-a luat Maria Bucuria pentru Starea S&#259;n&#259;t&#259;&#539;ii</a> &#537;i c&#259; mul&#539;i a&#539;i venit de acolo (apropo, &#238;ntre timp a mai scos c&#226;teva episoade foarte bune, despre <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYT1Eyr3QIE">cum &#238;&#539;i convingi creierul s&#259; fac&#259; sport</a>, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO4RykZ60QM">voin&#539;&#259;</a> sau <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsjHeYgURyk">despre s&#259;n&#259;tatea femeii</a>). </p><p>V&#259; mul&#539;umesc pentru &#238;ncredere!</p><p>Iar la final, am <a href="https://forms.gle/WgvpZLtWJ7keHX9A8">un sondaj cu 5 &#238;ntreb&#259;ri</a> pe care v-a&#537; ruga s&#259; &#238;l completa&#539;i, ca s&#259; m&#259; ajuta&#539;i s&#259; dezvolt Foaia de observa&#539;ie.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Cu un abonament lunar de 7 euro sau anual, de 80, m&#259; sus&#539;ii s&#259; dezgrop informa&#539;ii vitale despre serviciile medicale la care ar trebui s&#259; ai acces.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h2><strong><br>Psihologi &#238;n contract cu Casa</strong></h2><p>Am dou&#259; documente, ambele ob&#539;inute de la Casa Na&#539;ional&#259; de Asigur&#259;ri de S&#259;n&#259;tate (CNAS) - click pe download.</p><ul><li><p><strong><a href="https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/4ld05mtw065wrrgpdzedl/Psihologi-n-contract-cu-Casa_Bucure-ti_31-ian-2025.xlsx?rlkey=sw5axpil0n6vj2n191v6ainnb&amp;dl=0">Lista unit&#259;&#539;ilor publice &#537;i private din Bucure&#537;ti</a>, cu date de contact</strong> (o s&#259; vede&#539;i c&#259; unele sunt spitale, altele sunt cabinete individuale private).</p></li><li><p><strong><a href="https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/70hwmkh9w5tfrkwrticfl/Psihiatri-psihologi-n-contract-cu-Casa_na-ional_31-dec-2024.xlsx?rlkey=jsw2yynqh5mu2e1j6jb41qfe9&amp;dl=0">Lista unit&#259;&#539;ilor publice &#537;i private din toat&#259; &#539;ara</a></strong> care au psihiatri pediatri (<em>rara avis</em>, din p&#259;cate) &#537;i psihologi &#238;n contract cu Casa, inclusiv psihiatri &#537;i psihologi care pot evalua persoanele cu dizabilit&#259;&#539;i &#238;n vederea impunerii sau ridic&#259;rii <a href="https://legislatie.just.ro/public/DetaliiDocument/261629">m&#259;surii de ocrotire</a> &#238;n instan&#539;&#259; (dac&#259; pot decide pentru ele &#238;nsele sau dac&#259; intr&#259; sub tutela statului).</p></li></ul><p><strong>Aten&#539;ie:</strong></p><ul><li><p>Sheet-ul Unit&#259;&#539;i medicale con&#539;ine o centralizare pe jude&#539;e (Bucure&#537;tiul apare la final, ca &#8222;CASMB&#8221;).</p></li><li><p>Numele efective &#537;i datele de contact sunt &#238;n sheet-ul aferent fiec&#259;rui jude&#539;.</p></li><li><p>Primul document, pentru Bucure&#537;ti, ar fi trebuit integrat &#238;n cel de-al doilea, din punctul meu de vedere, dar pentru c&#259; a&#537;a le-am primit de la Cas&#259;, a&#537;a le-am p&#259;strat &#537;i eu.</p></li></ul><div class="captioned-button-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/p/nou-lista-psihologilor-care-lucreaza?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="CaptionedButtonToDOM"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Sigur &#537;tii pe cineva care caut&#259; s&#259; fac&#259; terapie gratis. Trimite-i aceast&#259; edi&#539;ie. </p></div><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/p/nou-lista-psihologilor-care-lucreaza?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/nou-lista-psihologilor-care-lucreaza?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p></div><h2><strong>Cum mergi la psiholog f&#259;r&#259; s&#259; pl&#259;te&#537;ti</strong></h2><p>V&#259; reamintesc &#238;ns&#259; c&#259; procesul e diferit de cel obi&#537;nuit: nu iei pur &#537;i simplu un bilet de trimitere c&#259;tre psiholog, de la medicul de familie, &#537;i te programezi.</p><p>Pe scurt, e a&#537;a: consilierea psihologic&#259; nu e considerat&#259; serviciu medical, ci serviciu &#8222;conex&#8221;, a&#537;a c&#259; psihologii nu pot face singuri contract direct cu Casa de Asigur&#259;ri. Ci psihiatrii &#537;i medicii din unele specialit&#259;&#539;i care au ei &#238;n&#537;i&#537;i contract cu CAS &#238;ncheie contracte cu anumi&#539;i psihologi, trimit pacien&#539;i la ei &#238;n baza acestui contract, pacientul nu pl&#259;te&#537;te, Casa &#238;i deconteaz&#259; medicului, care &#238;i deconteaz&#259; mai departe psihologului.</p><p>Deci <strong>primul pas e s&#259; vorbe&#537;ti cu medicul de familie (MF), care, dac&#259; consider&#259; &#537;i el necesar, &#238;&#539;i d&#259; un bilet c&#259;tre psihiatru sau, dac&#259; ai o afec&#539;iune cronic&#259; sau ai avut un accident dup&#259; care te-ai recupera mai bine cu sprijin psihologic, respectivul medic specialist e cel care &#238;&#539;i d&#259; trimiterea</strong>. </p><p><a href="https://cnas.ro/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Binder1-5.pdf">Aici, la punctul 1.8.1 (pag. 138)</a>, g&#259;se&#537;ti aceste specialit&#259;&#539;i. (Am scris mai pe larg despre serviciile psihologice <a href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/ce-s-a-schimbat-daca-vrei-sa-mergi?r=8k6pm">aici.</a>)</p><p><strong>Important:</strong></p><ul><li><p>Pentru copii, procedura e aceea&#537;i.</p></li><li><p>&#206;n acela&#537;i fel po&#539;i face &#537;i ni&#537;te &#537;edin&#539;e de kinetoterapie sau logopedie (sunt considerate tot &#8222;conexe&#8221;).</p></li><li><p>Po&#539;i beneficia de serviciile conexe <strong>doar dac&#259; e&#537;ti asigurat.</strong></p></li></ul><div><hr></div><h2>Bilete de trimitere pentru gravide &#8211; c&#226;nd &#537;i unde bifezi &#8222;G&#8221;?</h2><p>Am plecat de la o &#238;ntrebare pe care mi-a trimis-o o cititoare. Spunea c&#259; medicul de familie nu bifeaz&#259; &#8222;gravid&#259;&#8221; pe biletul de trimitere, deci c&#259; nu poate face analizele peste plafon, a&#537;a cum ar avea dreptul, ci trebuie s&#259; a&#537;tepte s&#259; aib&#259; laboratorul fonduri (aici e <a href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/analize-si-ecografii-gratuite-pentru?r=8k6pm">o edi&#539;ie &#238;ntreag&#259; despre drepturile gravidelor</a>, iar acest document e un r&#259;spuns pe care mi l-a dat CNAS la mai multe &#238;ntreb&#259;ri, care reia &#238;n detaliu toate aceste drepturi).</p><div class="file-embed-wrapper" data-component-name="FileToDOM"><div class="file-embed-container-reader"><div class="file-embed-container-top"><image class="file-embed-thumbnail" src="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_400,h_600,c_fill,f_auto,q_auto:best,fl_progressive:steep,g_auto/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2662156f-00b4-4247-9c61-a7070464bccd_1760x272.png"></image><div class="file-embed-details"><div class="file-embed-details-h1">R&#259;spuns CNAS drepturi gravide_februarie 2025</div><div class="file-embed-details-h2">1.08MB &#8729; PDF file</div></div><a class="file-embed-button wide" href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/api/v1/file/0e671260-a83f-4ccb-9492-7252d5ec2dde.pdf"><span class="file-embed-button-text">Download</span></a></div><a class="file-embed-button narrow" href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/api/v1/file/0e671260-a83f-4ccb-9492-7252d5ec2dde.pdf"><span class="file-embed-button-text">Download</span></a></div></div><p></p><p>&#206;n realitate, mi-au explicat medici de familie dr. Sandra Alexiu &#537;i dr. Ciprian Vornicu, sunt dou&#259; bife pe biletul de trimitere pentru analize &#537;i consult de specialitate:</p><ol><li><p>Una e <strong>calitatea de asigurat</strong>, unde bifezi &#8222;gravid&#259;/lehuz&#259;&#8221; <em>doar dac&#259; femeia &#238;nainte era neasigurat&#259;.</em> Odat&#259; cu &#8222;statutul&#8221; de gravid&#259;, ea devine automat asigurat&#259;, de aceea trebuie s&#259; bifezi. Dac&#259; era asigurat&#259; c&#226;nd a r&#259;mas gravid&#259;, &#238;&#537;i p&#259;streaz&#259; statutul anterior: salariat, student, pensionar, deci &#537;i bifa de dinainte.</p></li><li><p>La <strong>tipul de serviciu</strong> se bifeaz&#259; &#8222;G&#8221; pentru toata lumea, indiferent ce scrie la calitatea de asigurat, iar asta e ceea ce &#238;&#539;i d&#259; dreptul s&#259; faci peste plafon &#537;i cu prioritate.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jRIx!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0cb93abb-a5fd-4b94-98b3-d726a92efcd4_1080x1440.heic" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jRIx!, /__u/sorana.substack.com/w_424, /__u/sorana.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/sorana.substack.com/f_webp, 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/__u/sorana.substack.com/w_1456, /__u/sorana.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/sorana.substack.com/f_auto, /__u/sorana.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/sorana.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0cb93abb-a5fd-4b94-98b3-d726a92efcd4_1080x1440.heic 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 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Sandra Alexiu</figcaption></figure></div><p></p></li><li><p>La cod diagnostic se trece 995 la toat&#259; lumea.</p></li><li><p><strong>Pe re&#539;ete</strong> se bifeaz&#259; la toat&#259; lumea G, ca s&#259; fie compensate 100%.</p></li></ol><div><hr></div><h2><strong><br>Dac&#259; e&#537;ti neasigurat&#259; &#537;i ai r&#259;mas &#238;ns&#259;rcinat&#259;, cum &#8222;anun&#539;i&#8221; Casa?</strong></h2><p>E una dintre &#238;ntreb&#259;rile pe care le trimisesem la CNAS &#537;i r&#259;spunsul e la pagina 9 din r&#259;spunsul de mai sus: ca s&#259; beneficiezi de drepturile de gravid&#259;, trebuie s&#259; mergi cu buletinul, &#238;n original &#537;i copie, &#537;i cu adeverin&#539;a medical&#259; c&#259; e&#537;ti gravid&#259; la Casa  Jude&#539;ean&#259; de S&#259;n&#259;tate (iar dac&#259; e&#537;ti l&#259;uz&#259; &#537;i e&#537;ti neasigurat&#259;, trebuie s&#259; duci &#537;i certificatul de na&#537;tere al copilului).</p><p>Dac&#259; nu te po&#539;i deplasa, po&#539;i transmite &#8222;prin coresponden&#539;&#259;, &#238;n copie&#8221;, iar Casa &#8222;trebuie s&#259; fac&#259; orice demers&#8221; ca tu s&#259; prime&#537;ti calitatea de asigurat (conform art. 11 <a href="https://lege5.ro/Gratuit/gmytembxg44q/ordinul-nr-1549-2018-privind-aprobarea-normelor-metodologice-pentru-stabilirea-documentelor-justificative-privind-dobandirea-calitatii-de-asigurat-precum-si-pentru-stabilirea-documentelor-necesare-atr">Ordinul pre&#537;edintelui CNAS 1549/2018</a>).</p><div><hr></div><p><br></p><h2><strong>Ce sanc&#539;iuni primesc cei care cer gravidelor bilete de trimitere, inutil?</strong></h2><p>M-au &#238;ntrebat chiar medici de familie ale c&#259;ror paciente trebuiau s&#259; duc&#259; la spital bilete pentru consult ginecologic &#537;i ecografii, de&#537;i legea spune c&#259; nu e nevoie. </p><p>Deci dac&#259; nu e nevoie, MF nu e obligat s&#259; dea, dar dac&#259; nu d&#259;, femeia nu e primit&#259; la ecografia trimestrial&#259;. Iar dac&#259; accept&#259; s&#259; dea, dincolo de timpul pierdut &#537;i de femeie, &#537;i de medic, statul pl&#259;te&#537;te &#537;i degeaba o consulta&#539;ie. Deci &#537;i abuz, &#537;i risip&#259; de bani.</p><p>CNAS mi-a r&#259;spuns a&#537;a:</p><ul><li><p>Nu sunt sanc&#539;iona&#539;i MF care dau aceste bilete de trimitere pentru c&#259; gravida chiar are dreptul la aceste servicii (pag. 7 din r&#259;spuns), &#238;ns&#259; ei pot anun&#539;a Casa de S&#259;n&#259;tate Jude&#539;ean&#259; c&#259; s-a cerut acest bilet &#238;n mod abuziv.</p></li><li><p>Furnizorii (spitalele/clinicile) care &#238;l cer &#238;ncalc&#259; Contractul Cadru &#537;i pot primi sanc&#539;iuni, de la avertisment scris (la prima constatare), la amenzi.</p></li></ul><p>De la 1 iulie 2023, CNAS a f&#259;cut controale (&#537;i la stat, &#537;i la privat) &#537;i a dat sanc&#539;iuni pentru nerespectarea contractului, dar nu spune defalcat c&#226;te au fost pentru BT cerut inutil (vezi pag. 9 din r&#259;spuns).</p><p><strong>Sfatul meu: dac&#259; e&#537;ti gravid&#259; &#537;i &#539;i se cere un BT abuziv, sesizeaz&#259; chiar tu Casa de S&#259;n&#259;tate, <a href="https://cnas.ro/raporteaza-un-furnizor/">aici</a>.</strong></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/p/nou-lista-psihologilor-care-lucreaza?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/nou-lista-psihologilor-care-lucreaza?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_content=share&amp;action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><div><hr></div><h2><strong>Teste de screening pentru cancer de prostat&#259;</strong></h2><p>Dup&#259; edi&#539;ia de luna trecut&#259;, <a href="/__u/sorana.substack.com/p/cum-sa-ti-depistezi-riscul-de-cancer?r=8k6pm">despre cum &#238;&#539;i po&#539;i depista riscul de cancer</a>, un cititor m-a &#238;ntrebat ce teste sunt disponibile pentru cancerul de prostat&#259;. M-am dus, din nou, la ghidurile interna&#539;ionale &#537;i la dr. Carmen Ungurean, coordonator preven&#539;ie &#537;i screening la <a href="https://insp.gov.ro/">Institutul Na&#539;ional de S&#259;n&#259;tate Public&#259;</a> (INSP).</p><p>Nici Rom&#226;nia, dar nici alte &#539;&#259;ri europene nu au un program na&#539;ional de screening pentru cancerul de prostat&#259;, iar <a href="https://data.consilium.europa.eu/doc/document/ST-14770-2022-INIT/en/pdf">Consiliul UE</a> nici nu recomand&#259; unul &#238;nc&#259;, &#238;n lipsa unor date clare de eficacitate &#537;i fezabilitate a costurilor.</p><p>Exist&#259; &#238;ns&#259; <strong><a href="https://www.scumc.ro/psa-antigen-specific-prostatic/">PSA</a>-ul, un test foarte simplu &#537;i ieftin, din s&#226;nge, pe care b&#259;rba&#539;ii asimptomatici de peste 50 de ani &#238;l pot face decontat o dat&#259; la trei ani ca parte a pachetului de analize preven&#539;ie</strong> (vezi <a href="https://cnas.ro/ghidul-asiguratului/">Ghidul Asiguratului, pag. 15</a>).</p><p><strong>Dac&#259; &#238;ntre test&#259;ri apar orice simptome sau dac&#259; istoricul medical &#537;i familial o cer</strong>, medicul de familie ar trebui s&#259;-&#539;i recomande s&#259; mergi la specialist, pentru consult &#537;i investiga&#539;ii mai complexe, PSA-ul nefiind un test foarte sensibil (investiga&#539;ia complementar&#259; este RMN-ul).</p><p><em>&#206;n Rom&#226;nia, cancerul de prostat&#259; se afl&#259; pe <a href="https://raportuldegarda.ro/noile-recomandari-ue-pentru-screening-in-cancerul-de-prostata/">al doilea loc</a>, dup&#259; cancerul pulmonar, &#238;n clasamentul celor mai comune tipuri de cancer la b&#259;rba&#539;i. Iar la nivel european, se estimeaz&#259; c&#259; 1 din 11 b&#259;rba&#539;i va face cancer de prostat&#259; &#238;nainte de 74 de ani.</em></p><div><hr></div><p><strong>Bonusuri:</strong></p><ol><li><p><strong>Analize gratuite</strong></p><p>&#206;n edi&#539;ia trecut&#259; semnalam c&#259; la <a href="https://www.facebook.com/universitarurgenta/posts/pfbid0GEgirVWoYjr3fUGPyNUtXzN9KrQFMcfxhLyMHbAU5KZqwo2f3bYhoxL762TXqRvXl">Spitalul Universitar de Urgen&#539;&#259; din Bucure&#537;ti</a> &#537;i la <a href="https://www.facebook.com/iocncluj/posts/pfbid01SCXRKHtBVrGyU82ZZiynzVm1VdTGfPJLVv1tHk7egAD19CkLZyPDs9RmCG6AQXMl?locale=ro_RO">Institutul Oncologic din Cluj</a> pute&#539;i face gratuit testarea PAP/HPV cu bilet de trimitere. Ulterior, am primit un mesaj de la <strong>Institutul Regional de Oncologie Ia&#537;i, ca s&#259; anun&#539;e c&#259; &#537;i ei au un <a href="https://www.facebook.com/IROIASI/posts/pfbid0FLvYKYXY4KWs3CZRxay9T3QE1HSsfmo3uoqLpv1wRHJmMuZXM259h1sNqXHMot1bl">program testare gratuit&#259; PAP &#537;i HPV</a></strong>, tot cu bilet de trimitere, tot timpul anului. &#536;i mai sunt ni&#537;te lucruri bune care se &#238;nt&#226;mpl&#259; aici:</p></li></ol><ul><li><p>Po&#539;i face &#537;i <strong>vaccinul HPV</strong>, dup&#259; ce l-ai cump&#259;rat din farmacie, cu re&#539;et&#259; de la medicul de familie sau specialist (e gratuit pentru fete &#537;i b&#259;ie&#539;i 11-18 ani &#537;i compensat 50% pentru femei &#238;ntre 19 &#537;i 45 de ani.</p></li><li><p>Dac&#259; ai un diagnostic oncologic, dar nu e&#537;ti &#238;nc&#259; &#238;n eviden&#539;a unui oncolog, <strong><a href="https://www.facebook.com/IROIASI/posts/pfbid086urVjAjhSEnFBDVfy2hr6hyMmgE5weQSuyD1h6RF4sq3YsBa1f9wogskkp1M9BAl">po&#539;i merge f&#259;r&#259; programare</a> ca s&#259; afli pa&#537;ii urm&#259;tori.</strong></p></li><li><p>Exist&#259; <strong><a href="https://www.facebook.com/IROIASI/videos/972277817737307">un grup gratuit de suport psihologic</a> </strong>pentru pacien&#539;ii cu cancer, de dou&#259; ori pe lun&#259;.<br></p></li></ul><ol start="2"><li><p><em><strong><a href="https://cloud.email.bbc.com/SixStepstoCalm_Newsletter_Signup?&amp;at_bbc_team=studios&amp;at_medium=emails&amp;at_objective=acquisition&amp;at_ptr_type=&amp;at_ptr_name=bbc.com&amp;at_format=Module&amp;at_link_origin=friend&amp;at_campaign=sscalm&amp;at_campaign_type=owned&amp;at_campaign_type=owned&amp;at_medium=emails&amp;at_objective=s4&amp;at_ptr_type=email&amp;at_ptr_name=salesforce&amp;at_campaign=sscalm&amp;at_email_send_date=20241229&amp;at_send_id=4239627&amp;at_link_title=https%3a%2f%2fcloud.email.bbc.com%2fSixStepstoCalm_Newsletter_Signup%3f%26at_bbc_team%3dstudios%26at_medium%3demails%26at_objective%3dacquisition%26at_ptr_type%3d%26at_ptr_name%3dbbc.com%26at_format%3dModule%26at_link_origin%3dfriend%26at_campaign%3dsscalm%26at_campaign_type%3downed&amp;at_bbc_team=crm">Six steps to calm</a>.</strong></em> O serie de &#537;ase email-uri trimise s&#259;pt&#259;m&#226;nal de BBC despre tehnici pentru calmarea anxiet&#259;&#539;ii, de la respira&#539;ie, la <em>self-hugging</em> &#537;i <em>tapping</em>. Nimic nou ca subiect, dar dezvoltate &#8222;pe sufletul meu&#8221;.</p></li></ol><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://sorana.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Foaia de observa&#539;ie e o publica&#539;ie independent&#259;, care nu con&#539;ine publicitate.  F&#259;-&#539;i un abonament pl&#259;tit, ca s&#259; m&#259; aju&#539;i s&#259; o &#539;in &#238;n via&#539;&#259;. Dac&#259; ai deja, f&#259; unul cadou unui prieten. </p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p></p><div><hr></div><p>Mul&#539;umesc c&#259; a&#539;i fost cu mine &#537;i ast&#259;zi. </p><p>V&#259; rog trimite&#539;i edi&#539;ia oricui ar avea nevoie de aceste informa&#539;ii &#537;i mai acorda&#539;i-mi c&#226;teva minute ca <strong><a href="https://forms.gle/WgvpZLtWJ7keHX9A8">s&#259; r&#259;spunde&#539;i la 5 &#238;ntreb&#259;ri</a> &#537;i s&#259; m&#259; ajuta&#539;i s&#259; dezvolt Foaia de observa&#539;ie &#238;ntr-un produs &#537;i mai util, &#537;i mai sustenabil financiar.</strong></p><p>Pe cur&#226;nd!</p><p>Sorana</p>]]></content:encoded></item></channel></rss>