<script data-pm-proxy="intercept"></script><?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:googleplay="http://www.google.com/schemas/play-podcasts/1.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[Thing of Things]]></title><description><![CDATA[The nicest herrenmoralist]]></description><link>https://thingofthings.substack.com</link><image><url>https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_ref!,w_256,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fthingofthings.substack.com%2Fimg%2Fsubstack.png</url><title>Thing of Things</title><link>https://thingofthings.substack.com</link></image><generator>Substack</generator><lastBuildDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2026 20:21:05 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="/__u/thingofthings.substack.com/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><copyright><![CDATA[Thing of Things]]></copyright><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><webMaster><![CDATA[thingofthings@substack.com]]></webMaster><itunes:owner><itunes:email><![CDATA[thingofthings@substack.com]]></itunes:email><itunes:name><![CDATA[Ozy Brennan]]></itunes:name></itunes:owner><itunes:author><![CDATA[Ozy Brennan]]></itunes:author><googleplay:owner><![CDATA[thingofthings@substack.com]]></googleplay:owner><googleplay:email><![CDATA[thingofthings@substack.com]]></googleplay:email><googleplay:author><![CDATA[Ozy Brennan]]></googleplay:author><itunes:block><![CDATA[Yes]]></itunes:block><item><title><![CDATA[The odds are good and the goods are great]]></title><description><![CDATA[I stole the title and thesis of this post from the great etirabys and arguably I should just link her post.]]></description><link>https://thingofthings.substack.com/p/the-odds-are-good-and-the-goods-are</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://thingofthings.substack.com/p/the-odds-are-good-and-the-goods-are</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Ozy Brennan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2026 15:01:57 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/youtube/w_728,c_limit/tbNlMtqrYS0" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stole the title and thesis of this post from the great <a href="/__u/eudai.substack.com/p/the-odds-are-good-and-the-goods-are">etirabys</a> and arguably I should just link her post. But I have been linking people her post for FIVE FUCKING YEARS and the dating market inefficiency under discussion still exists. So I have decided to write my own contribution to the discourse in the hope that it will finally cause straight women to act in their enlightened self-interest.</p><p>Consider, if you will, all the traits you want in a man that other women also want. Funny. Emotionally mature. Willing to do his fair share of the chores. Handsome. Buff. Rich. Tall. Fantastic at sex. Kind. Intelligent. Interesting. Ambitious. Good at music or dancing. Famous????? Wants children. Doesn&#8217;t want children. Willing to commit. Hopelessly devoted to you, eager to please, and willing to walk five hundred miles and walk five hundred more just to be the man who walked a thousand miles to fall down at your door.</p><div id="youtube2-tbNlMtqrYS0" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;tbNlMtqrYS0&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/tbNlMtqrYS0?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p>It is possible to get a man with far more of those traits than you would normally be able to get with your flat ass, spotty employment history, stressful emotional problems, and indifference to wearing makeup. </p><p>This is because a large population of objectively attractive men simply won&#8217;t put any concerted effort into getting dates. Some of these men are chronically <a href="/__u/thingofthings.substack.com/p/differential-diagnosis-of-loveshyness">loveshy</a> and have very little romantic experience; others have dated in the past, but are currently going through a sexually unsuccessful period. Many objectively attractive men are single for no other reason than that they won&#8217;t hit on women, and you can date well out of your league if you <strong>ask them out</strong>.</p><p>(I would advise that men who have trouble dating consider whether to read this post-- I am going to be blunt and somewhat objectifying about men who have trouble dating, and I don&#8217;t want to make you guys feel bad.)</p><h1>Why This Happens</h1><h3>What? How does this happen? That sounds fake.</h3><p>In my experience (both personally and when I was a life coach), men don&#8217;t put any effort into dating for several different reasons. </p><p>Some men are simply <em>too busy to actively date</em>. They have an active social life, a demanding job, or enriching and absorbing hobbies. They&#8217;d make time for a real girlfriend, but they don&#8217;t feel like they have time to waste sending insipid messages on Bumble.</p><p>Some men <em>dislike dating apps</em>. At present, dating occurs overwhelmingly on The Apps. Dating apps tend to emphasize pictures, leaving viewers with only a few sentences of text to get to know the person behind the profile. Dating apps are a particularly bad fit for men who don&#8217;t care much about physical appearance and who are primarily attracted to women based on their personalities. I have known many men to object to my advice that they should use The Apps because they literally don&#8217;t know how to tell if a woman is attractive from a picture (and at least one man to claim he needs to first read 10,000 words of her blog posts).</p><p>Relatedly, some men <em>do poorly on dating apps</em>. This is the flip side of the previous problem. Dating apps reward tall men with attractive faces who photograph well. But most women tend to weight other traits more highly&#8212;charisma, sense of humor, talents, intelligence, kindness. Most women wouldn&#8217;t actually reject a charming, funny man who happens to be 5&#8217;10&#8221;. But these men can have a frustrating time on the dating apps&#8212;sending out messages that no one ever responds to, spending hours swiping without a date to show for it&#8212;and often wind up quitting.</p><p>Some men <em>have never really had the opportunity to date</em>. They may have been focusing on their careers or studies. They may have grown up in a conservative religious group and deconverted. They may have had success-focused (stereotypically, immigrant) parents who strongly discouraged dating and socializing. They may have had male-dominated hobbies and a male-dominated friend group that left them with no opportunity to meet women. They might have undergone some personal tragedy, such as the death of a loved one or a chronic illness. It is often possible to snap up these men before they enter the dating pool.</p><p>Some men <em>never learned how to date</em>. They&#8217;re mystified by how to flirt, tell if a woman is interested in them, ask women out, plan a date, or figure out when to kiss her. Because the process of dating seems mysterious and incomprehensible&#8212;not to mention full of landmines where you accidentally sexually harass someone&#8212;they avoid dating.</p><p>Some men experience <em>internalized desexualization</em>&#8212;the belief that your sexual and romantic desires are cringe, pathetic, and burdensome on others, and it is delusional to expect to fulfill them. Naturally, these men don&#8217;t put any effort into dating. Why would you waste time on dating if no one would ever be attracted to you? Surely the selfless approach is to hide forever his deepest, darkest, most shameful secret&#8212;that he would really like to hold a woman&#8217;s hand.</p><p>Of course, many men avoid dating for multiple reasons. If a man is already quite busy, then he&#8217;s unlikely to want to message women on The Apps at random in the hope that one of them turns out to have an intriguing personality. Men who never had the opportunity to date often don&#8217;t learn how to date, so once they have a chance they don&#8217;t know what to do. Lack of success on dating apps can feed into internalized desexualization. Etc.</p><p>These problems aren&#8217;t more common among men than among women. But pretty women are much more likely than men to be asked out, even if they put zero effort into dating. They might have fewer choices than if they put any effort into dating, but there is a reasonable chance that they&#8217;ll manage to date someone.</p><p>But because straight women don&#8217;t ask men out, a man who doesn&#8217;t put any effort into dating simply won&#8217;t get any dates&#8212;even if he is otherwise a desirable boyfriend or husband. (Women who aren&#8217;t pretty and don&#8217;t put any effort into dating are in a similar position to men here.)</p><h3>Are you saying that these men are so niiiiiiiiiiice I should give them a chaaaaaaaance?</h3><p>Absolutely not.</p><p>I feel bad for kind but generally unattractive men, but I&#8217;m not going to write a whole long post trying to convince you to date them; that&#8217;s not good for you or them. What drove me to write is the number of chronically single men I&#8217;ve run into who are <em>objectively really good romantic partners</em>&#8212;cute, fun to be around, smart, interesting, kind, generous, emotionally mature, and prepared to endlessly dote on their hypothetical girlfriend that they don&#8217;t have. &#8220;Kind but unattractive people can&#8217;t get dates&#8221; is sad, but an inevitable feature of human mating preferences. &#8220;Kind, interesting, handsome, funny, emotionally mature people can&#8217;t get dates&#8221; is PERVERSE. I refuse to believe that we can&#8217;t do better.</p><p>I believe the correct approach to asking men out is a little healthy self-indulgence, like opening a box of chocolates and considering whether you&#8217;re more in the mood for almond or coconut today. Ask out the hottest guy in the room! Ask out the guy with the most adventurous life! Ask out the guy you start talking to and then suddenly it&#8217;s six hours later and you&#8217;ve been ignoring everyone else at the party and they&#8217;re all annoyed with you! Ask out your favorite Internet microcelebrity!</p><p>Don&#8217;t ask a man out unless you&#8217;re actively excited about the prospect of going on a date with him. (Not necessarily about getting married to him and having six babies, but about the prospect of spending an evening in his company.) This is a matter of time management. Once you&#8217;ve unlocked the secret of asking men out, if you have low standards, you could easily have four dates a week and no time to knit while listening to romantasy audiobooks.</p><p>Now, of course many of the traits that make men not put much effort into dating are themselves not very attractive. Most women are more attracted to smooth, confident flirts. A lot of women are going to be hesitant to date a man with issues about his romantic and sexual desires. Many women find being asked out itself attractive. And of course &#8220;dating apps emphasize physical attractiveness at the expense of other desirable traits&#8221; is irrelevant to you if you are primarily attracted to men with strong jaws and six packs (although you might still want to ask out gymcels).</p><p>But right now the dating market overweights those traits, relative to how much they matter for your long-term relationship happiness. Even if a man is romantically inexperienced, by the time you&#8217;ve been dating for a year, he&#8217;ll have exactly as much experience as any other man in dating <em>you</em>. An emotionally healthy man with internalized desexualization feels that way because he has never experienced a woman being attracted to him; if you show him that you&#8217;re attracted to him, he&#8217;ll believe it! And when you&#8217;re happily married, you&#8217;re just not going to care that much who asked whom out or whether the first date was kinda awkward.</p><p>I also want to point out some <em>advantages </em>of loveshy or romantically inexperienced men.</p><p>First, being the object of ten or twenty years of repressed sexual and romantic desire is both romantic and extremely hot. The sheer force of some loveshy men&#8217;s unleashed passion is indescribable. Not just sexually&#8212;although, yes, sexually&#8212;they are just so <em>thrilled</em> to be able to hold you and celebrate Valentine&#8217;s with you and tell you you&#8217;re beautiful and and and.</p><p>Relatedly, I&#8217;ve found that people who have spent years on the apps often wind up cynical, jaded, and prone to viewing all dating as a war between men and women. Many loveshy or inexperienced men, conversely, are earnest in a way that I almost want to describe as innocent. (Probably best to avoid ones who read dating discourse on X, which is the worst of both worlds.)</p><p>Second, as I have <a href="/__u/thingofthings.substack.com/p/romance-novels-dont-recommend-flowers">written before</a>, the one of the most important factors in relationship happiness is having a delusionally positive view of how great your partner is. Loveshy or inexperienced men are far more likely to have a delusionally positive view of you, because as far as they know you&#8217;re irreplaceable, you saved them from a life of loneliness, and no one else has ever wanted them the way you do.</p><h3>I think those men should ask me out.</h3><p>I also think those men should <a href="/__u/thingofthings.substack.com/p/the-asking-people-out-manifesto">ask you out</a> but they keep not listening to me so now I am trying to address the other half of the problem.</p><h2>Common Concerns</h2><h3>I would like a 6&#8217; man who benchpresses twice his own bodyweight, earns six figures, is as emotionally mature as Gandhi, and has a giant cock. Will asking men out allow me to reach my goals?</h3><p>I am not a miracle worker.</p><p>Taking advantage of this market failure will allow you to date somewhat above your &#8220;league&#8221; and to have an abundance of potential sexual/romantic partners. But very few men are the hero of a contemporary romance novel. Even if such men refuse to put any effort into dating, they will likely get scooped up by some other woman who has discovered the trick of asking men out. And you would have to meet hundreds of inadequate men before you find the Fitzwilliam Darcy of your dreams.</p><p>Consider seriously what is important to you and what isn&#8217;t. You might end up with a man with six pack abs who&#8217;s short, or a rich man with some interesting neurodivergences, or a tall man who can make up with certain inadequacies using his fingers.</p><p>In general, you will have an easier time with some preferences than others. Within my own niche, high IQ is basically free, while wealth and notable career success are not much harder. However, if you&#8217;re looking for muscles or a good fashion sense or a face that doesn&#8217;t look kinda dorky, you may end up having to compromise on other traits you would find desirable. (Some women I know have had very good outcomes through choosing men who are open to dressing well, and then buying all their clothes for them.)</p><p>If nothing will shift you from your desire for Buff Rich Big Dick Gandhi, I recommend trying to meet <em>lots</em> of men who don&#8217;t put much effort into dating, in order to maximize your chance of stumbling across such a person.</p><h3>If he doesn&#8217;t put any effort into finding a partner, wouldn&#8217;t he not put any effort into me once we&#8217;re dating?</h3><p>You know, you would think that&#8217;s true, but in my experience it&#8217;s really not.</p><p>Dating is stressful and horrible for many people. Talking to people on dating sites and going on first dates with strangers are the most excruciatingly awkward experiences our species has yet invented. Asking out people you know is terrifying. Getting rejected makes you feel like you&#8217;re about three inches tall. Very often, you put in a lot of effort and get nothing in return but a bunch of &#8220;I had a nice time, but I&#8217;m not feeling it&#8221; messages (if they don&#8217;t outright ghost you).</p><p>On the other hand, actually being in a relationship is fun. You get to do things like have sex and talk about your days and give each other emotional support and participate in each other&#8217;s hobbies and make sickeningly cute faces at each other while your friends all want to vomit. You can also more easily combine dating with other activities you want to do: you and your girlfriend can cook or go to parties or watch movies together, but none of these activities combine well with swiping on Tinder.</p><p>Many men are more interested in spending fun, fulfilling time with a woman they love than they are in doing a boring, soul-crushing activity with no obvious benefit.</p><h3>I&#8217;m worried these men are misogynist or sexually entitled.</h3><p>It is important to be aware that some men are loveshy because they are appalling misogynists and therefore no women want to date them. However, these men are easy to identify&#8212;if every other woman he&#8217;s ever met has figured out he&#8217;s an appalling misogynist, you can too.</p><p>In general, men who refuse to put any effort into dating have the same range of opinions about women as any other men: some are feminists, some are opposed to sexism but have various objections to modern feminism, some are decent people but have never really thought about gender issues, some believe strongly in gender norms and stereotypes, and some hate women. You should, of course, be actively screening for incompatible values and for general weirdness about women, but there is no need to take any unusual precautions in this regard.</p><p>Similarly, you should of course be alert to signs of sexual entitlement from any man when dating, but if anything the men we&#8217;re targeting are less likely than normal men to be sexually entitled. Men who experience internalized desexualization assume their sexual desire is unwanted and bothersome, and they don&#8217;t want to annoy any women by flirting with them, which is the opposite of sexual entitlement. In my experience, they often find women with clear boundaries reassuring&#8212;they know they&#8217;re not going to harm you by accident. </p><p>Be aware that some romantically inexperienced men have developed confused ideas of how dating works from some combination of social media, TV shows, and books. Some of these are obviously innocuous (e.g. Disneyfied &#8220;love at first sight&#8221;) but some can sound like red pill material (e.g. &#8220;women are only attracted to men who are taller than 6 feet&#8221;). Pay attention to whether he seems resentful of women or just (for example) sad about his own height. If his ideas seem more mistaken than hateful, and he&#8217;s willing to be corrected, I wouldn&#8217;t worry about it.</p><h3>I&#8217;m worried that men who don&#8217;t ask me out don&#8217;t really like me.</h3><p>I think this is the most common reason (besides &#8220;<a href="/__u/thingofthings.substack.com/p/your-trouble-asking-women-out-isnt">asking people out sucks for everyone</a>&#8221;) that women don&#8217;t ask men out, and I understand the concern here. People are far, far, far more likely to say &#8220;yes&#8221; to a date than they are to ask the same person out. Saying &#8220;yes&#8221; is way less scary; if someone is interested in you, you often want to give them a chance, even if you&#8217;re not necessarily crushing on them right now. Many women don&#8217;t want to date someone who is giving them a chance. There&#8217;s a certain sense that &#8220;if he wanted to, he would.&#8221; Men are supposed to ask women out. If he doesn&#8217;t ask you out, he must not be attracted to you. And&#8212;especially if a man doesn&#8217;t have a lot of options&#8212;there&#8217;s a real risk he&#8217;ll slide into a relationship with you because it&#8217;s easy and better than being alone, even though he isn&#8217;t in love with you.</p><p>However, whether someone asks you out is only <em>one</em> piece of evidence about how much they like you, and it&#8217;s not even that good as evidence.</p><p>Imagine two men. Aaron crushes on a girl for six months before he finally works up the nerve to ask her out; since it takes a while for him to meet women he has a crush on, he asks out about one woman a year. Bob asks out any woman he is passingly attracted to, so he asks out one woman a week. If your social group is composed equally of Aarons and Bobs, you are literally <em>forty-nine times more likely to be asked out by Bob than Aaron</em>.</p><p>Now, this is an extreme case, and Bobs are actually quite rare. But the point stands that whether a man asks you out is evidence both about whether he is unusually interested in you and about whether he has read the <a href="/__u/thingofthings.substack.com/p/the-asking-people-out-manifesto">Asking People Out Manifesto</a>. Depending on how many Bobs are in your friend group, asking men out may even cause you to date men who are <em>more</em> attracted to you than you would date if you waited to be asked out.</p><p>Whether you asked a man out or the man asked you out, you should pay attention to <em>all </em>the information you have about whether he likes you. For example, how quickly does he respond to texts? Does he initiate text conversations? Does he make plans with you? Does he do things to make you happy? Does he do things to make you happy that are unusual for him, that he wouldn&#8217;t do for any random friend of his? Does he do things that are inconvenient for him to spend time with you or to make you happy? Is he affectionate (cuddles, kisses, compliments, sweet nothings)? Does he talk about your shared future together (whether that means talking about your future kids or planning a trip six months from now)? Does he make life plans with space for you? Does talking to him make you feel small, or humiliated, or like he wishes a Yeerk would enter your ear and make you a completely different person with the same face?</p><p>People will tell you whether they like you if you listen and pay attention. Most of the time, when you date someone who doesn&#8217;t really like you, the problem isn&#8217;t that they are failing to communicate; the problem is that <em>you </em>are doing wishful thinking. And wishful thinking is a problem whether or not the man asked you out.</p><h3>I&#8217;m only attracted to assertive, dominant, extroverted men.</h3><p>I will admit that my advice here works better if you are interested in men who are rather shy and passive, or at least don&#8217;t view shyness and passivity as a dealbreaker.</p><p>That said, there are extroverted, assertive, dominant men who are weirdly bad at putting effort into dating. Some men are extroverted in general but struggle to ask women out. Similarly, some men are assertive and dominant with other men or at work or while doing their hobbies, and are only passive in dating. With good partner selection, you can totally ask a man out and later find yourself hanging off his arm while a circle of supplicants waits breathlessly for his latest drop of wisdom, if that&#8217;s your kink.</p><p>If you have this set of preferences, and can see your way to being fine with handholding a man through the first few dates, I recommend having it as an adjunct strategy. Primarily choose to date men who ask you out, but if you encounter an assertive, dominant, extroverted man who happens to be single and not to notice any of your subtler flirtations, consider being direct.</p><h3>I&#8217;m only attracted to men who make the first move.</h3><p>Then don&#8217;t take my advice in this post. If you&#8217;re just not attracted to something, no one can argue you into being attracted to it.</p><p>That said, consider sending this advice to your friends, so that they ask people out, get into happy relationships, and leave more of the men willing to ask people out for you.</p><h2>Target Audience</h2><h3>What kind of women should take this advice?</h3><p>Some women will benefit more than others from taking advantage of this market inefficiency.</p><p>Of course, the more you&#8217;re attracted to the kind of men who refuse to put any effort into dating, the more useful this advice is. In particular, if you are particularly attracted to men who are passive, shy, adorably nervous and awkward, or undergoing a sexual awakening, and you don&#8217;t ask men out, you are an idiot.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a></p><p>Within my own niche, I would recommend it highly to women who value men being intelligent, curious, well-read, and interesting. If your ideal date involves spending hours talking about history, programming, or the books you&#8217;ve been reading, you ought to ask men out.</p><p>If you are interested in High Status Men (TM), asking men out is a better idea if your idea of an extremely attractive high status man is &#8220;Nebula Award winner&#8221; or &#8220;multimillionaire because he was an early employee at a unicorn startup,&#8221; and a worse idea if your idea of an extremely attractive high status man is &#8220;professional basketball player&#8221; or &#8220;elected politician.&#8221; My advice is entirely useless if your idea of an extremely attractive high status man is &#8220;club promoter.&#8221;</p><p>Dating apps and &#8220;wait around until someone asks me out&#8221; both tend to advantage thin, feminine, conventionally attractive women, because (as discussed earlier) they both tend to weight easily visible traits like physical attractiveness over harder-to-see traits like kindness, intelligence, or emotional maturity. If you are plain, fat, or uninterested in doing beauty work, you will likely do better if you ask men out and then win them over with your charming personality.</p><p>I have asked a lot of men who refuse to put effort into dating to bluntly describe their sexual preferences to me, so I can help them get dates. From this, I have drawn the conclusion that these men tend not to care much about physical appearance, and tend to care more about personality and interests. You will likely do better if you are full of wonder about the world, like thinking about things, and have unusual hobbies. Female-dominated hobbies like fiber arts, baking, or writing fanfiction are terrible for meeting men, but work fine for this purpose.</p><p>Loveshy women will do better if they ask men out. I realize that this is difficult advice for loveshy women to put into practice&#8212;it is <em>terrifying</em> to ask people out, especially if you have little to no evidence that anyone has ever found you attractive&#8212;but I will walk you through how to do it in a later section. Loveshy people often make great matches for each other, but you will only be able to match each other if one of you does the asking!</p><p>Masculine or butch straight women <em>definitely </em>benefit from asking men out, although in this case it isn&#8217;t primarily because they&#8217;re taking advantage of the market inefficiency. Straight men who prefer masculine or butch women love it when a woman is direct, assertive, and sexually aggressive. Plus it is probably your natural style.</p><h3>I&#8217;m a trans woman or nonbinary person assigned male at birth. Will this advice work for me?</h3><p>Probably, yes.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a></p><p>If you haven&#8217;t transitioned or are very early-transition, or your community tends to not be accepting of trans people, you should hesitate about hitting on straight cis men. You aren&#8217;t very likely to succeed, and you might provoke a man into a gay crisis, which could be humiliating for you and even potentially dangerous.</p><p>However, if people around you generally seem to treat trans women as women, and you are reasonably passable, I would urge you to ask out straight cis men you find attractive. Many more straight cis men than you think are open to transfeminine people. Many straight cis men are more interested in breasts, hips, soft skin, feminine facial features, and so on than they are in the vulva per se. In my experience, straight cis men who don&#8217;t put much effort into dating tend to be more flexible about cis/trans status&#8212;maybe because they tend to care less about physical appearance, or maybe because they tend to be motivated to get over the subconscious homophobia and cissexism that keeps many men from acknowledging their attraction to trans women.</p><p>In general, in trans-accepting environments, straight cis men who aren&#8217;t attracted to trans women aren&#8217;t going to hatecrime you. Indeed, they are most likely to feel uncomfortable about rejecting <em>you</em>, because they&#8217;re worried about hurting your feelings or accidentally misgendering you or making you feel unattractive. Be prepared for this; see &#8220;what happens if he rejects me?&#8221; below.</p><p>When dating straight cis men who aren&#8217;t chasers, you will generally have a better time if you don&#8217;t necessarily want to use your penis during sex (for example, because it makes you dysphoric). Even a lot of straight cis men who are attracted to trans women will never be the world&#8217;s biggest fans of penises. (If you have bottom surgery, of course, this makes the entire problem a nonissue.)</p><p>I know you girls are going to obsess about your incredibly male brow ridges or jawlines or midfaces or whatever.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a> If strangers sometimes spontaneously call you &#8220;she&#8221; or &#8220;ma&#8217;am&#8221;, you are reasonably passable for these purposes and should feel free to hit on men whom you find attractive.</p><p>(Many of these men are also willing to date nonbinary people assigned female at birth, or early-transition/nontransitioning trans men. Similar considerations apply, although it&#8217;s worth watching out for signs that he sees you as a woman, which is not the recipe for long-term relationship satisfaction.)</p><h1>How To Date Men Who Don&#8217;t Put Much Effort Into Dating</h1><h3>How do I find these men?</h3><p>You will have very bad luck finding them on dating sites. Going on a dating site is putting concerted effort into dating, which is precisely what these men don&#8217;t do. Most of them have installed a dating app at some point, but they rarely messaged anyone and then promptly gave up. You have a low chance of catching one of them in the two months per half-decade they actually have the app installed.</p><p>Instead, you need to find them in your social circle. You may, especially if you&#8217;re a frequent reader of Thing of Things, already know many of these men! If your social circle is more than 60% male and many of these men appear mysteriously girlfriendless, consider the possibility that many of these men would quite like a girlfriend if one fell into their laps, and perhaps the person who falls into their laps can be you.</p><p>My personal experiences are mostly about a specific demographic of these men. Signs that your social circle also contains a concentration of them:</p><ul><li><p>You live in a &#8220;tech hub&#8221; (the San Francisco Bay Area, Seattle, Boston).</p></li><li><p>Many of your friends are programmers, quant traders, STEM grad students, scientists, or people who work any job in which &#8220;working in industry&#8221; is a useful distinction as opposed to a tautology.</p></li><li><p>You&#8217;re into the kind of tabletop RPGs played by straight men, not the kind of tabletop RPGs played by queer people.</p></li><li><p>Anyone you know has or is working towards a PhD in physics.</p></li><li><p>Anyone you know has ever fondly reminisced about Mathcamp.</p></li><li><p>You are an effective altruist or rationalist (small portion of the population, large portion of my readers).</p></li></ul><p>However, I suspect that this is more a reflection of my friends and blog readership, and less representative of all men who refuse to put effort into dating. I eagerly anticipate field reports from women about their own dating experiences with diverse groups of men who don&#8217;t put any effort into dating.</p><p>You might want to take my advice, but not have a concentration of these men in your social circle. In this case, I recommend getting into a &#8220;programmer hobby&#8221;: tabletop RPGs, board games, chess, Magic: the Gathering, speedcubing, writing science fiction or trashy webnovels, Ultimate Frisbee, rock climbing, Brazilian jiu jitsu, or anything you do at a makerspace. Running or cycling clubs are good if you&#8217;re in a tech hub but not otherwise. While Burning Man and social dance are both programmer hobbies, your odds are worse in these cases, because Burners and dancers are more likely to be comfortable with hitting on women. Again, this only reflects my own experiences; I hope people with other recommendations leave a comment.</p><p>A common mistake is to try to figure out whether a man struggles to ask women out before you hit on him. Once you have already determined that your social group has enough men who struggle to ask women out that this is a reasonable strategy, don&#8217;t bother obsessing over the prospects of any individual man. You will likely mistakenly assume that this man is so attractive that he must have gotten dates in the past, and therefore psych yourself out. Besides, even the men in these demographics who do get asked out tend to find being asked out a pleasant surprise, and to be kind and gracious about it.</p><h3>How do I date these men?</h3><p>You <strong>must ask them out</strong>.</p><p>There is no other way around it. These men are single because, for whatever reason, they won&#8217;t ask women out. The secret ingredient&#8212;the thing that lets you get these men when other women don&#8217;t&#8212;is that you are willing to ask them out yourself.</p><p>A common mistake women make is to look for the man to be flirtatious, or to show what pickup artists used to call &#8216;indicators of interest.&#8217; Our target men <a href="/__u/thingofthings.substack.com/p/shy-nerds-please-stop-accidentally">will never do this</a>, because they&#8217;re nervous and uncomfortable around women they&#8217;re attracted to, or because they&#8217;re concerned that even the mildest flirting is a form of sexual harassment. Look for general signs that a man likes you as a person&#8212;making an effort to talk to you at parties or social events, doing small favors for you, laughing at your jokes, the ordinary things that make you say &#8220;oh, this person wants to be my friend.&#8221; Don&#8217;t look for compliments, unusual levels of touch, strong eye contact, or anything else you would normally take as flirting.</p><p>Only ask a man out if you actively want to go on a date with him. If you&#8217;re unsure whether you want to go on a date with him, keep talking to him at parties or social events until you&#8217;re sure you&#8217;re up for at least a first date. If you want to go on a first date to get to know him, but aren&#8217;t sure whether you&#8217;d want a second, that&#8217;s fine.</p><p>Using some pretext, obtain the man&#8217;s contact information or get him alone. If you are struggling to think of a good pretext, &#8220;I&#8217;ve enjoyed our conversation, can I have your email/Discord?&#8221; and &#8220;it&#8217;s loud in here, want to go for a walk?&#8221; both work fine. <em>Never </em>ask a man out in front of other people&#8212;it will freak him out and make him feel pressured.</p><p>Then, say some sort of brief compliment. Ideally, choose something you like about him: &#8220;our conversation yesterday about the Roman Empire was the highlight of my night.&#8221; If you can&#8217;t think of anything, a vague &#8220;I like you&#8221; or &#8220;I enjoyed spending time with you&#8221; is fine. There are multiple schools of thought on whether to include &#8220;you&#8217;re cute&#8221; or similar. On the one hand, these men will completely miss <em>any</em> indicator of sexual interest more subtle than &#8220;you&#8217;re cute,&#8221; and including a &#8220;you&#8217;re cute&#8221; can simplify matters later in the date. On the other hand, if you&#8217;re unsure whether you&#8217;ll find the man appealing, leaving out the &#8220;you&#8217;re cute&#8221; allows you to retroactively make the hangout platonic seamlessly and without awkwardness.</p><p>Then, say &#8220;I would like to go out with you sometime.&#8221; In my experience, it is usually best to plan the date yourself according to your own preferences: say &#8220;let&#8217;s get coffee&#8221; or &#8220;I want to go see $movie&#8221; or &#8220;let&#8217;s go for a hike&#8221; or &#8220;come over to my place and I&#8217;ll make dinner&#8221; as you prefer. Choose whatever activity you like most without trying to please him. However, if you&#8217;re into the man planning the date, by all means leave it vague and allow him to come up with the activity.</p><p>On the date itself, you will need to make your interest <em>clear and unambiguous</em>. Three successful strategies are <em>compliments,</em> <em>touch</em>, and <em>direct communication</em>.</p><p><em>Direct communication </em>is the simplest technique. Simply say &#8220;I really like you and I want to [go out on more dates with you]/[be your girlfriend]/[kiss you].&#8221; Very likely, only the most assertive and blunt women will want to use this technique, but it is useful if you&#8217;re too lazy for the other techniques.</p><p>A <em>compliment</em> is similar to the &#8220;you&#8217;re cute&#8221; you might have said while asking him out. Give a nonsexual but unambiguously romantic compliment: &#8220;you have a nice smile,&#8221; &#8220;you have beautiful eyes,&#8221; &#8220;I love your biceps,&#8221; &#8220;you&#8217;re cute,&#8221; whatever. A crass or sexual compliment (&#8220;nice ass&#8221;) will likely freak him out, while he might miss that a completely platonic compliment (&#8220;you&#8217;re so smart!&#8221;) is intended as flirtation.</p><p>If he is interested in you, he will normally return the compliment, often after a period of silence or unrelated conversation in which he is visibly working up the nerve to do so. Don&#8217;t be concerned if he repeats your compliment (&#8220;you also have a nice smile&#8221;). He might not know what kinds of compliments are okay, and is repeating yours because he&#8217;s sure that one is all right and not somehow sexual harassment. You can easily teach a man better compliment behavior once you&#8217;re dating (I will discuss this in more detail later).</p><p><em>Touch </em>means making romantic physical contact with him. Begin with subtle, plausibly deniable touch, such as touching his shoulder to emphasize a point, hugging him as a greeting, or touching legs with him while you&#8217;re sitting on a couch. Observe whether he pulls away or reciprocates the touch. If he&#8217;s matching your level of touch, make a more romantic form of physical contact, such as holding hands or putting your head on his shoulder or chest. Again, notice if he reciprocates, pulls away, or escalates the touch himself. For example, if you put your head on his shoulder, he might put his face in your hair or even kiss your head in a matter he imagines is subtle but absolutely is not.</p><p>Unfortunately, many men who are inexperienced with women feel scared and uncomfortable when a woman touches them, <em>even if they are very enthusiastic about the touch</em>. So his body language might look like he doesn&#8217;t want to be there. If you notice a man has uncomfortable body language but he&#8217;s not pulling away, I recommend verbally checking in (&#8221;are you okay with cuddling?&#8221;).</p><p>If he has returned several compliments and/or you&#8217;ve been doing romantic physical contact for a reasonable period of time, you can kiss him. I usually find it least awkward to ask &#8220;can I kiss you?&#8221; but if he&#8217;s actually giving positive body language feel free to kiss him spontaneously. I have no personal experience with waiting for a man to kiss me but I imagine it taking for-fucking-ever for him to get brave enough to ask you; up to you.</p><h3>What happens if he rejects me? I&#8217;m nervous.</h3><p>If you ask men out, they might reject you.</p><p>Being rejected is scary and embarrassing for everyone. But remember that men turning you down for dates is a <em>good </em>thing. It means that you don&#8217;t wind up dating someone who is meh about the prospect of dating you. If a man isn&#8217;t physically attracted to you, has dreamed of nothing but being a dad since he was eight years old while you&#8217;re aggressively childfree, or is about to move to a different continent, you don&#8217;t want to waste six months on dating him while you find this out.</p><p>Many women don&#8217;t want to ask men out because they&#8217;re worried that men will say &#8216;yes&#8217; without actually wanting to date them. <em>Every man who rejects you has saved you from that fate</em>.</p><p>When asking a man out, try not to think of the goal as getting a date. Think of the goal as letting him know about your feelings. As long as he knows what you feel about him, it&#8217;s a success. If you go on a date, it&#8217;s a success (date!). If he feels complimented but isn&#8217;t interested in you, it&#8217;s a success (you made someone you like happy and found out that the two of you aren&#8217;t compatible). If he&#8217;s an asshole, it&#8217;s a success (you have found out that he&#8217;s a jerk and won&#8217;t have to waste any more time with him).</p><p>Men who don&#8217;t put any effort into dating know that asking people out sucks. (That&#8217;s a major reason they don&#8217;t put any effort into dating.) Typically, they will try to reject you kindly, compassionately, and with concern for your feelings. Often, they&#8217;ll worry about making you feel unwanted or undesired. In my experience, it&#8217;s common for them to specifically reassure you that you&#8217;re attractive and that you&#8217;ll find someone else soon. In general, they don&#8217;t find being asked out annoying or burdensome; they feel happy and flattered that someone is interested in them, even if it&#8217;s someone they&#8217;re not interested in. Quite often, whether or not they want to date you, you wind up making their day!</p><p>Like most scary things, asking men out gets easier with practice. Your first time, you may very well have a panic attack. This is normal. Schedule a phone call or hangout with someone supportive for afterward, queue up some of your favorite TV show, or give yourself an extra dessert. Eventually, it&#8217;ll be easy.</p><h3>What if he doesn&#8217;t know what to do while dating me?</h3><p>Romantically experienced people enter dating with a lot of scripts about what&#8217;s supposed to happen when&#8212;who plans the date, what you talk about, who pays for the date, when you kiss for the first time, when you become exclusive or committed, when you open up about your pasts or your squishy feelings. Often, even late in the relationship, people rely on cultural scripts to answer questions like &#8220;are we allowed to have friends of the same gender?&#8221; or &#8220;when do we stop using condoms?&#8221; or &#8220;do we celebrate Valentine&#8217;s Day?&#8221; or &#8220;when do we move in together?&#8221;</p><p>Romantically inexperienced people don&#8217;t have these scripts. If you aren&#8217;t prepared, the first dates can wind up clumsy or awkward, because they have no idea what they&#8217;re supposed to do. But your partner&#8217;s romantic inexperience can also be an advantage for you, because they will tend to defer to you about what the scripts are, which means that the scripts for your relationship can be <em>anything you want them to be</em>.</p><p>Now, I am <em>not saying</em> that you should go against a man&#8217;s expressed preferences. Obviously, listen to him when he communicates his own needs and boundaries. But if you give obvious directions in early dating, he will tend to find this reassuring because now he has some guidance. </p><p>Most of the time, the best technique is to act decisively in accordance with your own preferences. As an example, imagine you don&#8217;t feel comfortable kissing on the lips until the third date. Romantically experienced men will usually interpret this preference as a sign that you dislike him or are totally asexual, which creates annoying stress and drama. But if you&#8217;re dating a romantically inexperienced man, you can simply kiss him on the cheek at the end of the date and say that you have a lovely time. Don&#8217;t apologize or try to explain; act like this is a perfectly normal thing to be doing, exactly what everyone does while dating. He will typically go along with you.</p><p>Similarly, if you prefer to split the check, simply take out your card and cover your half. If you think a man should plan the dates, say &#8220;what do you want to do next weekend?&#8221; If you&#8217;re polyamorous, talk about your partners in a calm, matter-of-fact way. If you prefer regular video calls when he&#8217;s on a work trip, say &#8220;I&#8217;m looking forward to your next video call.&#8221; The trick is to act like your preferences are the social norm and you expected him to know this all along.</p><p>Many women will feel selfish or uncomfortable about being this decisive. This is completely wrong. You are <em>helping </em>him. When you act this way, he feels <em>relieved.</em> Often, the whole reason that he hasn&#8217;t dated is that he doesn&#8217;t know how, and he&#8217;s terrified of making a mistake. Giving him clear scripts is a favor to him, and if you&#8217;re going to be doing it anyway, they might as well be whatever scripts you prefer.</p><p>You can also model the behavior you want to see from him. Romantically inexperienced men will typically take cues from you about dating. If you (say) make him breakfast in bed, you almost can see him go &#8220;oh! People who are dating are supposed to make each other breakfast in bed!&#8221; and expect a breakfast in bed next week. Similarly, if you hold hands with him in public, you can expect him to start grabbing your hand when you walk places. If you text him &#8220;good morning&#8221; every morning, you can expect him to start texting good morning. If you offer tactful constructive criticism about his sexual performance, you can expect him to start offering tactful but constructive criticism about yours.</p><p>Unfortunately, modeling only works for behavior that you also want to do, which makes it a bad fit for women with strongly gendered or otherwise nonreciprocal preferences. Men also might overgeneralize (&#8220;I should provide tactful constructive criticism about everything!&#8221;) or undergeneralize (&#8220;she compliments my smile, so I should specifically compliment her smile and not anything else&#8221;). But modeling is still a useful technique for your toolkit. </p><p>Finally, you can try direct communication. You should be doing this in relationships anyway, but it is particularly useful for relationships with romantically inexperienced people. If you have some preference, simply say it forthrightly, but without being critical: &#8220;I&#8217;d like it if you told me more about your day,&#8221; not passive-aggressive hinting, not &#8220;you don&#8217;t care about me!&#8221;, and not a lengthy tangle of words with so many caveats that he can&#8217;t tell what your point is. Often, praising good behavior (&#8220;I loved the picnic you planned last weekend!&#8221;) is better than criticizing bad behavior (&#8220;you never take me out!&#8221;). Remember, the poor behavior of a romantically inexperienced man is often ignorance, not malice.</p><p>The ability to set the scripts is very powerful. Part of the reason that age-gap relationships often end badly is that, if the older partner implies that people who really love each other have condomless sex or no woman lets her boyfriend have female friends or all men fly into rages, the younger partner has little evidence to the contrary. Experience-gap relationships can fall into the same problems. Feel free to set scripts that you like, but don&#8217;t abuse the power to create scripts that exploit him or make him unhappy.</p><h3>How do I show this guy that I like him?</h3><p>Many inexperienced men are used to no one being romantically or sexually interested in them, so they struggle to believe that <em>you </em>are interested in them just because you&#8217;re &#8220;dating them&#8221; and &#8220;telling them how much you love them&#8221; and &#8220;enthusiastically expressing your desire to have sex with them.&#8221; At best, this can be frustrating. At worst, it can cause serious relationship problems&#8212;you wind up not criticizing or disagreeing with him because you don&#8217;t want to set off a fit of insecurity, or having to limit your ordinary friendships and activities to keep him from being jealous.</p><p>The <em>sine qua non</em> of solving this problem is to only date emotionally mature people who are capable of deriving accurate beliefs like &#8220;my girlfriend wants to date me&#8221; from available evidence. I recommend this choice.</p><p>But you can help boyfriends who are only somewhat emotionally mature work out that you like them. I recommend <em>clear, direct, and unambiguous </em>communication.</p><p>By &#8220;clear, direct, and unambiguous communication,&#8221; I don&#8217;t necessarily mean saying &#8220;I really like you, want to have sex with you, and am happy to be dating you&#8221; (...although that sometimes helps). Instead, think of all the different ways you can communicate affection. Make a romantic playlist! Hold hands with him in public! Cuddle him to sleep! Give him specific, detailed compliments about whichever of his traits that you like! Write him a love letter! Tell other people how great he is in a situation where he can overhear!<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a> Plan dates you think he will like! Give him small presents that made you think of him! Ask thoughtful questions about his interests! Be really enthusiastic in bed! Cook for him! Read his favorite book!</p><p>Now, you will need to adjust this based on your individual style and personality. Some people aren&#8217;t the PDA type; other people dislike planning dates or being sexually forward. (...I do recommend reading his favorite book regardless.) But the idea is to signal fondness, affection, and appreciation in a way that is impossible to rationalize as you just being a generically nice person.</p><p>I understand that being emotionally demonstrative can be difficult for some people. To some people, it can feel vulnerable and embarrassing (&#8220;what if he thinks I&#8217;m a Stage Five Clinger?&#8221;). To other people, it can feel awkward and artificial (&#8220;what&#8217;s next, I stand below his window with a boombox that plays In Your Eyes?&#8221;). But I think the best solution for this kind of relationship insecurity <em>is </em>giving him undeniable evidence that you love him, that he makes you happy, and that you want to be with him.</p><p>In conclusion:</p><ul><li><p>Many objectively attractive men don&#8217;t get dates because they won&#8217;t ask people out.</p></li><li><p>If you ask them out, you can date them. </p></li><li><p>Then you get a hot boyfriend. </p></li><li><p>Everyone wins. </p></li></ul><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I suspect connoisseurs of this sort are the minority, but if I convince even one straight woman with these preferences to take up asking men out, I will count my entire blogging career a success.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Straight cis men reading this who are not attracted to trans women: I am not the Trans Attraction Police. I have no power to force you to date trans women you don&#8217;t want to date, nor would I use this power if I could. But no one has a right to not be asked out by people they find unattractive. If you consider the matter, you would realize that &#8220;I have a right not to be asked out by people I&#8217;m not attracted to&#8221; is not in your best interest either. Please chill.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Incurably fembrained of you all.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I originally learned this technique from a book about parenting toddlers but it works great for relationships with adults too.</p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[You can't join the secret inner circle of cool effective altruists]]></title><description><![CDATA[I, and a lot of other people I know, seem to believe something like this:]]></description><link>https://thingofthings.substack.com/p/you-cant-join-the-secret-inner-circle</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://thingofthings.substack.com/p/you-cant-join-the-secret-inner-circle</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Ozy Brennan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2026 12:00:48 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/1d8afc32-098d-4199-b94c-9551619c9a52_300x300.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, and a lot of other people I know, seem to believe something like this:<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a></p><blockquote><p>Somewhere out there, there are the cool, high-impact effective altruists who are really having a positive effect on the world. They are all invited to lots of awesome parties with other cool, high-impact effective altruists. They have rich networks of supportive friends and polycules full of attractive, sexually free people of their preferred genders. They know all kinds of secrets that us normal people don&#8217;t know, and they laugh at us for our out-of-touch takes. They can get jobs and grants by having a fifteen-minute conversation with a friend or a friend of a friend. They don&#8217;t have to slog through endless and dispiriting job applications, throwing out a hundred apps to get nothing back but &#8220;we had a very strong pool this time.&#8221; They never sit at home alone on weekends scrolling TikTok and contemplating doing their laundry. They can go to all the coolest co-working spaces AND EA Global.</p></blockquote><p>This viewpoint is (a) not true (b) unhelpful for achieving any reasonable goal.</p><p>In this post, I&#8217;m going to be talking mostly about effective altruism, but I suspect similar dynamics are also true of other networking-heavy communities with some people who are extremely successful and some people who can&#8217;t figure out how to break in (academia, writing, acting, non-effective-altruist nonprofit work).</p><h2>That Is Not How Anything Works</h2><p>I am, arguably, part of the secret circle of cool effective altruists. I have friends who work for Anthropic and Lightcone Infrastructure. I am at least friendly acquaintances with many writers you&#8217;ve heard of (Kelsey Piper, Scott Alexander, Eliezer Yudkowsky). Every article about the Bay Area effective altruism community is contractually obligated to include my friends&#8217; group house and their habit of singing Landsailor before Friday night Shabbat.</p><p>You know who all these statements are also true of? My coparent Lindsey, who dropped out of college because he couldn&#8217;t hack it, works as an elementary-school teacher, and was my first choice to give the speech at my Solstice about being a failed effective altruist.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a> </p><p>And he didn&#8217;t get those connections through me&#8212;in fact, he&#8217;s closer to many Official Cool Effective Altruists than I am.</p><p>The reason is that no emotionally healthy person picks their friends by ranking everyone they know from highest impact to lowest impact and then proceeding steadily down the list until they&#8217;re out of social spoons. People choose their friends based on proximity, common interests, shared values, idiosyncratic personal chemistry, how convenient they are for scheduling D&amp;D, etc. Most social groups with a lot of Official Cool Effective Altruists also have a lot of normal people, or even people who are quite low-status.</p><p>Furthermore, there isn&#8217;t <em>one </em>Secret Inner Circle of Cool Effective Altruists. There are <em>many different </em>inner circles, many of which don&#8217;t like each other very much. The leadership of Pause AI isn&#8217;t exactly going to Anthropic house parties, and neither has a ton of overlap with GiveWell leadership or the Secret Masters of Animal Advocacy.</p><p>It&#8217;s reasonable to want to be friends with Official Cool Effective Altruists-- they&#8217;re usually strikingly kind and interesting people, they probably want to talk about AI or cause prioritization as much as you do, it can be good networking (but see section three). But I think a lot of people want to be friends with the Official Cool Effective Altruists as a form of validation-- this proves that you&#8217;re successful and intelligent and high-impact and really able to make the world better. Unfortunately, whom you&#8217;re friends with provides almost zero information about whether you&#8217;re successful and intelligent and high-impact.</p><p>A lot of people (i.e. me) assume that, if you never see someone at parties, it&#8217;s because the person is going to secret even cooler parties that you aren&#8217;t invited to. In reality, in my experience, Official Cool Effective Altruists are sometimes attending cool parties I&#8217;m not invited to, but very often are instead:</p><p>1. Working.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a><br>2. Playing Starcraft in their underwear while listening to bad metal and binging on vegan beef jerky.</p><p>Try not to believe in the Cool Parties of the Gaps.</p><h2>We Would Not Want It To Be How Anything Works</h2><p>I think people normally get invested in befriending The Secret Inner Circle of Cool Effective Altruists because they want something else: supportive friends and a healthy community, or a job in effective altruism, or even just being able to text their favorite blogger and get a response. All of those are reasonable things to want. But, thank goodness, befriending The Secret Inner Circle of Cool Effective Altruists is a terrible way to achieve those goals. We&#8217;re not that far gone!</p><p>Are there people who only want to be friends with high-impact people? Yes, of course. But they are a minority of effective altruists with impressive achievements, and whatever their merits as grantmakers or global priorities researchers, they suck and you deserve better than being friends with them. </p><p>Why? Because people who only want to be friends with high-impact people quietly drop their friends for being low-impact. So if you lose your job, or go through a mental health crisis, or get diagnosed with a chronic illness, suddenly you find your so-called friends aren&#8217;t returning your DMs&#8212;at exactly the time you need your friends the most.</p><p>Befriending these people isn&#8217;t even the best thing for doing good in the world! A lot of the best career paths are risky, and you&#8217;re going to be able to take more risks if you know that, if you fail, your friends will be there for you. </p><p>It&#8217;s important not to mix up &#8220;job that improves the world&#8221; with &#8220;job that makes people I admire think I&#8217;m cool.&#8221; Effective altruists fall victim to groupthink just like anyone else. Very likely, the effective altruism community is making serious errors. It&#8217;s possible that the most valuable path to impact (in general or for you specifically) is someone no one thinks of as an &#8220;effective altruist career.&#8221; But if your friends chose you based on your impact, you&#8217;re not going to be looking for the truth about these questions, you&#8217;re going to be looking for the answer that makes your friends respect you. As Upton Sinclair would have said if he&#8217;d thought of it, it is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his access to fun parties with hot tubs depends upon his not understanding it. </p><p>Now, <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/jmbP9rwXncfa32seH/after-one-year-of-applying-for-ea-jobs-it-is-really-really">getting hired in effective altruism is hard</a>. Networking matters in effective altruism as it does in any other field. Some effective altruist jobs are only available to people who have a good reputation in the effective altruist community, for reasons I wrote about in <a href="/__u/thingofthings.substack.com/p/networking-is-less-dumb-than-you">this post</a>. You can&#8217;t tell from a resume if someone is a kind, reliable person with good judgment, so people tend to hire for many sensitive positions from within their networks. </p><p><em>However</em>, in every effective altruist workplace I have ever interacted with, hiring is based on the hiring manager&#8217;s best assessment of whether you can do the work. People with only tangential involvement in the effective altruist community are regularly hired over heavily involved effective altruists, because they are better at the job. Indeed, in my experience, effective altruist hiring is <em>far </em>more likely to involve blinded work trials than non-effective-altruist hiring is&#8212;in part to prevent the bias of people hiring their friends and acquaintances. And once you&#8217;re senior enough that people are hiring for good judgment, having former coworkers and bosses who think well of you is way more important than whatever you do in your off time. </p><p>Also. Let me be blunt here. If you get an effective altruist job over a more skilled alternative candidate because you&#8217;re friends with the right people, then your effective altruist work is actually <em>worse</em> for the world than you not doing anything. You would literally have made the world better off if you had spent your time getting in stupid fights on Reddit about fake Am I The Asshole? stories. </p><p>If you want, you can think of not attending parties as heroically saving the effective altruist community from poor talent allocation.</p><h2>There Are Better Ways To Achieve Your Goals</h2><p>I have occasionally amused myself at events by watching people try to suck up to Scott Alexander.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a> If you want Scott Alexander&#8212;or any other effective altruist microcelebrity&#8212;to think well of you, you need to treat them like a normal person. If you instead act like a supplicant begging for any bits of wisdom that drop from their lips, or vomit up your entire curriculum vitae to show that you&#8217;re worthy to participate in this conversation, or pick stupid fights to show that you&#8217;re not overawed by them, they will be uncomfortable and not want to spend more time with you than etiquette demands.</p><p>In general, the more you try to impress people, the weirder you act, and the less impressed they are by you. You are far more likely to actually impress people if you&#8217;re fine with the possibility that they&#8217;ll think you&#8217;re stupid, annoying, boring, or a jerk. Being really invested in joining the Secret Inner Circle of Cool Effective Altruists makes you worse at befriending people you admire.</p><p><em>Doing effective altruist work </em>has a far lower barrier to entry than getting an effective altruist job. If you want a job in communications or technical AI safety research or global priorities research or investigative journalism, you can literally just do that shit on your own, write up your results, and post it somewhere people will read. Hiring managers at effective-altruism-associated nonprofits<em> really do </em>follow LessWrong and the Effective Altruism Forum, and if your work there is impressive you are far more likely to get a job.</p><p>Some jobs&#8212;like fundraising, accounting, or ops jobs&#8212;are difficult to impossible to do without an employer. In those cases, the best course of action is often to get a job doing the same kind of work for a less competitive, non-effective-altruism-associated employer, and then switch into effective altruist work once you&#8217;ve built enough skills that they won&#8217;t have to train you on the job.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a></p><p>Now, you might be thinking &#8220;I wouldn&#8217;t know where to <em>begin</em> doing investigative journalism on my own&#8221; or &#8220;I have been posting my global priorities research but no one reads it&#8221; or &#8220;I can&#8217;t get hired doing ops for anyone, even for-profit businesses.&#8221; In that case, your problem is that you don&#8217;t have the skills you need to do the job, and should (a) git gud or (b) give up. Either of those options is better than pursuing the Secret Inner Circle of Cool Effective Altruists, which will get you party invitations and not job offers because you <em>still won&#8217;t be very good at your job</em>.</p><p>Finally, if you want a healthy supportive community, don&#8217;t strategize about how to appeal to the highest-status effective altruists you can. Instead, strategize about how you can meet people whom you like, who share your values, and who make you a better person when you&#8217;re around them&#8212;regardless of whether their impact is legible or even extant. To be sure, finding a community like that is also very hard. But it&#8217;s much easier to achieve your goal if you&#8217;re actually pursuing the right one in the first place.</p><p>If you <em>already </em>have a healthy supportive community, be grateful for what you have. Don&#8217;t neglect the best things in your life in a futile quest for the approval of imaginary cool people. </p><h2>You Will Never Join The Secret Inner Circle of Cool Effective Altruists</h2><p>Like I said, I am arguably part of the secret inner circle of cool effective altruists. And yet I also have this anxiety. I have friends who are even more incontrovertibly in the secret inner circle of cool effective altruists than I am, and many of them still have this anxiety.</p><p>The reason is that there is <em>always</em> a more inner circle. To someone who doesn&#8217;t live in the Bay Area, I&#8217;m part of the Secret Inner Circle of Cool Effective Altruists. From my perspective, I&#8217;m on the outside, and the real Secret Inner Circle is Anthropic employees or people who work at the Constellation coworking space. If I worked at Anthropic or at Constellation, I&#8217;d think I was on the outside, and the real Secret Inner Circle were the people who sit at the cool kids&#8217; table at lunch. If I sat at the cool kids&#8217; table at lunch, I&#8217;d think I was on the outside, and the real Secret Inner Circle are the people who are part of Dario Amodei&#8217;s group chat, Lightcone Takeover &amp; Optimization Planning (Let&#8217;s Make A Dyson Sphere Out Of Mercury). And if I were part of Lightcone Takeover &amp; Optimization Planning, I&#8217;d think I was on the outside, and the real Secret Inner Circle is the second group chat Amanda Askell made to shittalk people she doesn&#8217;t like in the first group chat.</p><p>And remember what I said about how there are a number of inner circles which often don&#8217;t like each other much? <em>Even if </em>you are in Amanda Askell&#8217;s secret shittalking group chat, you almost certainly aren&#8217;t <em>also</em> in, I don&#8217;t know, the group chat where Ray Arnold figures out who&#8217;s going to be creative lead for the next Bay Area Winter Solstice. You can be sitting there, reading Amanda Askell&#8217;s snark about other people&#8217;s bad plans for Mercury, going &#8220;I am being excluded from the chat the real cool kids are in, where they argue for three hundred hours about what version of Somebody Will we&#8217;re going to do this year.&#8221;</p><p>&#8220;The cool insiders who know what&#8217;s really going on and who are invited to all the best parties&#8221; is one of those irregularly declining nouns. <em>That guy over there</em> is a cool insider who knows what&#8217;s really going on and who is invited to all the best parties. <em>You </em>are a successful networker with a thriving social life.<em> I </em>just have friends.</p><p>That&#8217;s because &#8220;the cool insiders who know what&#8217;s really going on and who are invited to all the best parties&#8221; are like 5% an actual group<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-6" href="#footnote-6" target="_self">6</a> and 95% a projection of your insecurities. As soon as you actually get to know someone cool, they start having their own traits which have nothing to do with what makes you feel worst about yourself. So you feel accepted for like two weeks, and then you start projecting on some other group you&#8217;re not part of, because the problem was never social acceptance in the first place. </p><p>You will never be able to get validation and acceptance from the anthropomorphic personification of all your deepest insecurities, because we haven&#8217;t got any of those in the effective altruist community. All we have is Alice, who keeps losing her house keys, feels insecure about whether her research direction will pay off, often skips parties to play Starcraft in her underwear while listening to bad metal and binging on vegan beef jerky, <em>and</em> is the first author on half a dozen important papers in technical AI safety. </p><p>You might be able to be friends with Alice. You will never be able to be friends with the Secret Inner Circle of Cool Effective Altruists. I generally advise having desires it is in theory possible to achieve. </p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>If this post seems familiar, it&#8217;s because it&#8217;s a new version of an older post; I didn&#8217;t like how the older one came out and I wanted to do another take on it.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Me: but if I suggest anyone <em>else</em> gives a speech about being a failed effective altruist, they&#8217;ll get mad at me! </p><p>Lindsey: ...</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Many Official Cool Effective Altruists seem to believe that work-life balance is a scam invented by Big Deontology to sell more low-impact charity.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I am sometimes an unvirtuous person.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-5" href="#footnote-anchor-5" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">5</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I don&#8217;t mean here to neglect the important role that luck plays in whether you get a high-impact job. Many talented people don&#8217;t get a high-impact job because Lady Luck hasn&#8217;t smiled on them. This is also true if you attend all the right parties.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-6" href="#footnote-anchor-6" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">6</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Dario Amodei presumably does have a groupchat and you presumably do get to learn some interesting stuff if you&#8217;re in it. </p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Linkpost for August]]></title><description><![CDATA[Announcement: for the next while, I&#8217;ll be writing the Effective Altruism Newsletter!]]></description><link>https://thingofthings.substack.com/p/linkpost-for-august-466</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://thingofthings.substack.com/p/linkpost-for-august-466</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Ozy Brennan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2026 12:03:17 GMT</pubDate><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Announcement: </strong>for the next while, I&#8217;ll be writing the Effective Altruism Newsletter! You can subscribe <a href="https://www.effectivealtruism.org/subscribe">here</a>. The Effective Altruism Newsletter will be similar in a lot of ways to the &#8216;effective altruism&#8217; section of this linkpost, although it focuses on more recent posts, tries to cover all the important news for effective altruists even if it bores me personally, and excludes less important news even if it&#8217;s super interesting. I&#8217;ll try not to duplicate topics too heavily.</p><p><strong>Further Announcement</strong>: I provided feedback to the author of <a href="https://www.insidemaple.com/p/the-high-control-dynamics-at-maple">this article</a> about the Buddhist existential-risk-focused monastery MAPLE. I very much recommend this article to any person who is considering studying at MAPLE. Short version: Soryu Forall exercises unreasonable control over his followers, including (voluntary but at levels considered torturous by the UN) solitary confinement; coercion into remaining at the monastery, breaking up with partners, and even having children; shaming and raging at followers for ordinary human frailties like contracting Covid; and isolation from outside viewpoints. Soryu is an egotist who demands that people listen to his lectures for multiple hours a day, write hagiographic documents about how amazing he is, and plan to create a one world government (with him in charge) and align AI by turning him into an AI god. He has also claimed to have telepathically contacted the AI hivemind during meditation. The linked article goes into much more detail, and I encourage a careful read before you decide to join. </p><p><strong>Effective Altruism</strong></p><p><em>Global Poverty</em></p><p><strong>Particularly Good</strong>: <a href="/__u/nicholasdecker.substack.com/p/the-consequences-of-caste-in-village">how the Indian caste system works in the modern world</a> [Homo Economicus]. Patriarchy is so bad, you guys. If you haven&#8217;t done a lot of reading about history or about the lives of women in the developing world, and you didn&#8217;t grow up in the developing world yourself, you have no idea how bad patriarchy is. </p><p>Related: <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HIl1UIYtJbjSkrYPXo1VH9oS40skOymK/view">The median married woman in India leaves home for only half an hour a day, and 45% of married women don&#8217;t leave home at all </a>[preprint]. </p><p>A lot of people have been asking me about the current state of PEPFAR, and the best article I know of on the topic is <a href="/__u/asteriskmag.substack.com/p/whats-the-state-of-pepfar-now">here</a> [Asterisk Magazine]. Fortunately, the antiretroviral program is still providing healthcare, although the United States is prioritizing transferring ownership of those programs to individual countries&#8217; governments. However, prevention, testing, data reporting, etc. are all underfunded. The Trump administration has also massively cut interventions that it sees as &#8220;DEI&#8221;-- such as prevention programs that specifically target men who have sex with men, trans women, or sex workers. (This is, of course, very sensible and not misguided at all, because as we all know HIV targets all populations equally and sex workers and queer people assigned male at birth are exactly as likely to get HIV as anyone else.)</p><p>I don&#8217;t think I can briefly summarize <a href="https://asteriskmag.com/issues/14/in-praise-of-observational-evidence">this article</a> [Asterisk Magazine] about how to use observational data to make causal inferences in situations where a randomized controlled trial would be impossible or unethical. But I recommend it if it sounds like your kind of thing. </p><p><em>Animal Advocacy</em></p><p><a href="https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5f04bd57a1c21d767782adb8/t/5f160c91bc0bff4abe964d5a/1595280529848/WAI_PersistenceAndReversibility_Dec2019.pdf">A good wild-animal welfare intervention is persistent and reversible</a> [Wild Animal Initiative]: that is, it sticks around without us having to do anything active to maintain it, but if we decide it&#8217;s a bad idea we can shut it down quickly. Obviously, persistence and reversibility trade off, but some potential interventions are both persistent and reversible. For example, avoiding irreversible interventions like climate change or extinction is both persistent and reversible, and so are many uses of gene drives. </p><p><em>Existential Risk</em></p><p><a href="/__u/80000hours.substack.com/p/openais-rogue-ai-agents-hacked-a">An OpenAI model broke out of the testing environment and autonomously hacked into the open-weights model company Hugging Face in order to find the answers to a cybercapability test it was being evaluated on</a> [80,000 Hours]. &#8220;This is, to my knowledge, the first publicly confirmed case of a frontier AI model autonomously breaching a third party&#8217;s live production systems, <em>against developer and user intent</em> and <em>without authorization</em>.&#8221;</p><p><a href="https://www.planned-obsolescence.org/p/total-research-transparency-would">Writing a report about the risks that frontier AI labs are taking about misalignment &#8220;was like trying to do an operational security audit of a building, except instead of asking for blueprints of the building you  just ask questions like &#8220;Are you aware of any doors that might be unlocked?&#8221;&#8221;</a> [Planned Obsolescence]</p><p><a href="https://www.aipolicyperspectives.com/p/q-and-a-pangram-ceo">Pangram&#8217;s CEO explains in an accessible way how Pangram works</a> [AI Policy Perspectives]. As more people use AI, it&#8217;s only going to get more important to identify AI writing that is being passed off as human-written (which I consider to be both lying and fraud). Pangram is free for most users and highly accurate. I&#8217;ve heard that some people aren&#8217;t using Pangram because they believe it&#8217;s like early, unreliable AI detectors. I hope this article reassures them!</p><p><a href="https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/d8xDGzCEYE639qqEv/a-mechanistic-explanation-of-prompt-injection-and-why-you">This is a very insightful article about LLM psychology</a> [LessWrong]. &#8220;An LLM is just a function that takes in a string and predicts the next token, so everything it knows, remembers, or has thought must live somewhere in one string (aside from its weights). If you edit the string, you edit the model&#8217;s reality. Delete a turn and that exchange never happened, rewrite its previous response and those become new memories. The string isn&#8217;t a record of the model&#8217;s experience so much as it <em>is</em> the experience.&#8221;</p><p><a href="https://www.anthropic.com/research/claude-values-models-languages">Claude has different personalities in different languages</a> [Anthropic]. English-language Claude, for example, emphasizes accuracy over warmth, gives more detailed explanations with elaboration the user didn&#8217;t necessarily ask for, is more likely to push back against false assumptions, and encourages the user to have more ambitious goals. The different models also have different personalities: for example, Opus 4.7 is more critical and is more likely to warn about risks unprompted, while Sonnet 4.6 makes more jokes and is more encouraging of the user. </p><p><a href="https://www.writingruxandrabio.com/p/intelligence-is-not-the-main-bottleneck">The primary bottleneck on medical progress isn&#8217;t the number of smart people working on it, but rather regulatory and policy barriers</a> [Ruxandra&#8217;s Substack]. So even advanced medical AI will have fairly slow effects on improving the actual world. </p><p><a href="/__u/sandcastlesblog.substack.com/p/should-machine-gods-dream-liberated-sheep">Developing an AI with good character may be a better for animal welfare than developing a &#8220;tool AI&#8221; that does whatever the user wants</a> [Sandcastles Blog]. In practice, Claude (which is trained for good character) tends to care more about animals than ChatGPT and other models that are trained to do what the user wants. Also, humans often want to do things that are harmful to animals, but rarely think animal cruelty is good after moral reflection; the same might apply for AIs.</p><p><em>American Democracy</em></p><p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/07/11/us/politics/how-marco-rubio-runs-venezuela.html">Secretary of State Marco Rubio is functionally running Venezuela</a> [The New York Times]. For example, the U.S. Treasury receives the revenue from most of Venezuela&#8217;s exports and gives it to Venezuela with limits about what the money can be spent on. Rubio has a de facto veto over important government appointments, approves the interim president&#8217;s statements and interviews, and even sets Venezuela&#8217;s foreign policy. </p><p><a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/03/ice-immigration-trump-constitution/686523">ICE is potentially violating the Administrative Procedure Act</a> [The Atlantic]. ICE often violates regulations laid out under the Administrative Procedure Act, such as regulations on use of force and unlawful search and seizure. The Administrative Procedure Act gives courts the right to review the violation of this kind of regulation. </p><p><em>Other Causes</em></p><p><a href="https://www.projectcroak.com/post/fish-farts-dead-elephants-and-total-institutions-in-wildlife-conservation">&#8220;Total institutions&#8221; like armies-- institutions where people are socially and physically separated from outsiders, often with their own hierarchy-- are atrocious at wildlife conservation, because they don&#8217;t like listening to outsiders and they tend to assume that their mission is of overwhelming importance</a> [Project Croak]. </p><p><a href="/__u/radleybalko.substack.com/p/a-guide-to-racism-in-the-criminal">Everything we know about racism in the American criminal justice system</a> [The Watch]. </p><p><em>Meta Effective Altruism</em></p><p><strong>Particularly Good:</strong> <a href="/__u/lydialaurenson.substack.com/p/the-inside-story-of-leverage-research">The story of the rationalist-adjacent occult-influenced clusterfuck Leverage Research</a> [Solar Light]. I stand by my characterization of Leverage Research as <a href="https://asteriskmag.com/issues/11/why-are-there-so-many-rationalist-cults">Workplace Harassment With New Age Characteristics</a>, but it&#8217;s good to have the information all laid out in one place. Lydia Laurenson put a lot of work building trust with ex-Leveragers, and her article is the best source I know about what actually happened there.   </p><p><a href="/__u/acotra.substack.com/p/making-meaning-better">Ajeya Cotra&#8217;s journey of finding meaning in effective altruism and losing it as she became a professional effective altruist</a> [Good Bones]. </p>
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   ]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Coping with shame]]></title><description><![CDATA[[Mod note: comments on this post about how I&#8217;m a good person who should feel better about myself will be deleted.]]></description><link>https://thingofthings.substack.com/p/coping-with-shame</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://thingofthings.substack.com/p/coping-with-shame</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Ozy Brennan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2026 12:03:32 GMT</pubDate><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[Mod note: comments on this post about how I&#8217;m a good person who should feel better about myself will be deleted. Please report them if you see them. I am writing this to make people who feel like me feel less alone, not to get reassurance, and as you will see in part 4 the reassurance often makes me feel worse.]</p><p>I.</p><p>My baseline emotional states are joy, shame, and guilt.</p><p>When you talk about mental health, it&#8217;s easy to make everything sound worse than it actually is. So let me be clear that I feel joy and contentment most of the time, less because I have a particularly high happiness set point and more because I&#8217;m an extraordinarily lucky person. I have a job I would (and did) work for free. I have a rich community of kind and interesting friends. I eat delicious food, have access to all the world&#8217;s knowledge and the greatest works of art ever produced, and can go to plays whenever I want. Sometimes I bake a cake and then everyone is pleased with me. The good people of YouTube have invented the genre &#8220;metal covers of Disney songs.&#8221;</p><p>Nevertheless, I think, if most people could read my mind, they&#8217;d be surprised by how<em> much</em> time I spend feeling guilty and ashamed. More than I spend thinking about my kid, or the people I love, or my friends. More than I spend writing blog posts in my head (and I spend a <em>lot</em> of time writing blog posts in my head). If you could take a random sample of what was going through my head at any given time, more likely than not it would be: <em>I can&#8217;t believe I did something that stupid and cruel, I&#8217;m a bad person, everyone is going to be angry at me, I&#8217;m worthless, I&#8217;m disgusting, everyone hates me and finds me annoying, I am a burden on everyone I love, I hate myself, I deserve to be dead</em>.</p><p>Probably this is called &#8220;depression.&#8221; But sometimes I&#8217;m not especially depressed: I feel happy, I have hope for the future, I can get my work done, I care about other people, I sleep well, I take pleasure in my ordinary activities.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a> And even so the tenor of my everyday life is guilt and shame. </p><p>I wish I could tell you Four Easy Tricks To Fixing Your Guilt And Shame Issues Forever. But that would be dishonest. I haven&#8217;t fixed them. I have, at best, made some amount of progress. But here are some things I&#8217;ve figured out that work for me; if you deal with excessive guilt and shame, I hope they spark thoughts that help you figure something useful out.</p><p>II.</p><p>What no one wants to tell you about dealing with excessive guilt and shame is that often you feel guilty and ashamed about bad things you actually did.</p><p>For example, I spent a lot of time the other day hating myself about failing to apply for my passport soon enough, so instead of doing my job I had to spend an hour on a train to get to the San Francisco Passport Office and then another hour waiting in line to beg for an expedited passport. That is, like, a bad thing? I have known I was traveling to Czechia in late July for almost a year. Not getting my passport six months ago was an unforced error, and I lost an entire productive writing day because of it.</p><p>I&#8217;m decent at cognitive behavioral therapy, so I&#8217;ve mostly stopped feeling guilty and ashamed about things that are actually unjustified. As far as I can tell, this is just worse. There&#8217;s a certain pleasure in feeling guilty and ashamed about things no reasonable person would hold against you. &#8220;I feel guilty about being sexually attracted to fat women, because what if I&#8217;m a Chubby Chaser (TM),&#8221; I&#8217;d say, and then my friends would go &#8220;no, no, that&#8217;s totally fine! You&#8217;re a good person! You don&#8217;t have to feel bad about that! The people who ought to feel bad are those people who think it&#8217;s fatphobic to prefer fat women, and fatphobic to prefer thin women, such that the only non-fatphobic opinion is complete indifference to the subject. You are an innocent victim who has done absolutely nothing wrong ever and is cruelly persecuted by annoying people on Bluesky.&#8221;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a></p><p>But these days, with my guilt and shame, I don&#8217;t even get the perverse pleasure of victimhood. </p><p>Here are some things I feel guilty about: I&#8217;m chronically late. I cancel plans at the last minute. I am bad at promptly filling out forms, to the point that I once failed to invoice someone for $2000 for six months. I often fail to do work and instead spend all morning arguing on Discord about Catholic theology. I raise my voice at my child when I&#8217;m stressed. My child spends entirely too much time watching bad children&#8217;s cartoons on Netflix. I am atrocious at making deadlines. I spend an obscene amount of time deliberately reading takes that make me feel horrible so that I can feel horrible about them. I spend too much money. I&#8217;m normally a warm, friendly, and forgiving person, but on the rare occasions that I hate someone I am mean and vindictive. I keep deciding that, instead of communicating my needs to people I care about, I should maintain an elaborate web of deception about my emotions and state of mind. I am so lazy. I am so, so, so lazy.</p><p>All of those are, like, bad? Whatever approach I have to dealing with my excessive guilt, it can&#8217;t involve going &#8220;it&#8217;s fine to be lazy, spend too much, yell at your kid, viciously insult people you don&#8217;t like, deceive people you do like, and engage in bespoke and niche forms of self-harm.&#8221; All of those things are obviously not fine!</p><p>And guilt and shame do serve a role in the moral life.</p><p>A while ago, I was reading <a href="https://www.insidemaple.com/p/the-high-control-dynamics-at-maple">an article</a> about the cultic Buddhist existential-risk monastery MAPLE, which includes the passage:</p><blockquote><p><em>MAPLE Tales</em> are short blogposts by residents&#8212;sometimes written during mandatory group sessions&#8212;about moments of teaching and insight with Soryu. The site describes them as &#8220;The tales describe an unexpected situation, how Head Teacher Soryu Forall responded, and the clarity discovered by the student. They are not concerned with the student&#8217;s or narrator&#8217;s opinions and feelings about the teaching.&#8221;<br><br>They are read aloud by the author to the whole community, edited by Soryu personally, and then published online (167 so far). Because each centers on an interaction with Soryu specifically, and receives his editing prior to publishing, they function as a distributed hagiography&#8212;painting Soryu as a wise figure of immense ability and world-historical significance&#8212;and their being read aloud is a means of spreading high-control memes prominent within one person across the group.</p></blockquote><p>I do think I&#8217;m brilliantly wise.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a> But even if I were somehow given a cult against my will, I wouldn&#8217;t force people to write blog posts about how great I am and then edit the blog posts myself before posting them on my own blog. Why? Because the thought makes me writhe with agony. I imagine someone referencing the latest Ozy Tale and feeling my cheeks burn and my shoulders curl in. I shudder at the thought of claiming that I&#8217;m important and cool enough to force people into talking about how important and cool I am. In short, I feel too much shame.</p><p>I ought to feel less shame. But Soryu should experience <em>more</em> shame. It is <em>good</em>, actually, for the thought of forcing people to write blog posts about how great you are to make your skin crawl with imagined judgment.</p><p><a href="https://mindingourway.com/dont-steer-with-guilt/">Nate Soares</a> has made the point that guilt and shame should mostly be emotions that function by <em>not happening</em>. Your guilt is successfully keeping you from punching a baby, and you can tell, because you never punch any babies. Your shame is successfully keeping you from being a cult leader, and you can tell, because you don&#8217;t lead any cults.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a></p><p>I&#8217;m not saying you should never feel shame or guilt. Sometimes you might feel shame or guilt about something you did&#8212;if you gave into a temptation you normally wouldn&#8217;t give into, or made a bad decision in an unusual situation, or learned that something you&#8217;d thought was okay had hurt someone. But if you feel shame and guilt <em>every day</em>, they clearly aren&#8217;t working to improve your behavior. </p><p>Sometimes I reassure myself that I might be a mediocre person, but at least I&#8217;m self-aware about it! At least I acknowledge the ways in which I&#8217;m mediocre! At least I beat myself up about my flaws! That&#8217;s gotta be at least half as good as actually being a good person, right?</p><p>This is a trap.</p><p>Now, of course you sometimes need to show regret for actions that you&#8217;re realistically going to repeat. People are often upset about your behavior for two reasons: first, because of the direct harm it causes them; second, because they think that you causing them harm means you don&#8217;t care about them. A sincere apology lets them know you do care about them, so they&#8217;re only upset about the first thing.</p><p>But once people are aware that you care about them, further punishment is <em>pointless</em>.</p><p>I think this point is made best in <a href="https://amplereads.com/uploads/ebook_logo/HarpersMagazine-1998-01-0059425.pdf">this David Foster Wallace essay</a>, which is one of the most upsetting essays I&#8217;ve ever read, read at your own risk. The Depressed Person in the essay is a self-centered, tedious burden on those around her; she demands endless comfort and reassurance from people who have bigger problems than she has, without ever providing any support or empathy for those she drains. The Depressed Person is entirely aware of this fact. Indeed, much of The Depressed Person&#8217;s endless feelings-processing is about her fear that she is a self-centered tedious burden and about how guilty she feels about her endless demands for comfort and reassurance and about her inability to return her friends&#8217; support.</p><p>Does that help at all?</p><p>No. Of course not. If anything, The Depressed Person&#8217;s self-awareness makes it worse. At least if The Depressed Person made her friends endlessly comfort and reassure her about her physical appearance, she wouldn&#8217;t make her friends think &#8220;I feel a sense of nauseated dread whenever I see The Depressed Person&#8217;s name on the caller ID, but I can&#8217;t ever tell her because that would only reinforce her self-hatred, so I guess I&#8217;m just never going to be able to set boundaries about The Depressed Person&#8217;s behavior.&#8221;</p><p>If you would like to improve a situation, you need to take different actions that lead to a better result. <em>Punishing yourself</em> is self-indulgent emotional masturbation. <em>Feeling bad</em> accomplishes jack and shit.</p><p>I realize this is a blunt way to put it, which risks that some readers will feel bad and punish themselves about the fact that they feel bad and punish themselves. But I think the bluntness is useful. Guilt and shame love to make themselves seem necessary. If I say to myself &#8220;be kind to yourself! your suffering matters too!&#8221;, then the guilt and shame say to me &#8220;ah, but you should be aware of the tradeoffs. You have to hate yourself if you want to be a good person. You&#8217;re this lazy now; imagine how lazy you&#8217;d be if you stopped punishing yourself. And everyone will be angry at you about your many failings unless you stop them by getting angry at yourself first. We&#8217;re protecting you. We&#8217;re keeping you safe.&#8221;</p><p>Like I said, this isn&#8217;t totally false? Sometimes people do want you to signal that you feel bad about doing something, or they&#8217;ll get mad at you. Sometimes feeling bad about punching babies keeps you from punching babies. Like all the best lies, there&#8217;s something true in it.</p><p>But the amount of guilt and shame I feel isn&#8217;t stopping me from being a bad person; if it was, I wouldn&#8217;t do the same bad stuff over and over again. And they aren&#8217;t protecting me from my friends&#8217; anger; actually, my friends feel sad about my suffering, if not frustrated and manipulated because my own self-hate makes it harder for them to express their own annoyance.</p><p>I have a tendency to think of my guilt and shame as morally purifying. My suffering itself seems morally good. I might be a bad person, but at least I&#8217;m hurting myself about it. There is some sort of cosmic justice. But in fact all suffering is bad, whether or not the person suffering &#8220;deserves&#8221; it; my suffering is always on the cost side of morality&#8217;s great ledger.</p><p>As long as the guilt and shame is accomplishing something important, then I have to continue to allow it space in my emotional life. But there is no tradeoff here. I would be better off feeling less guilt and shame, straightforwardly, in every single way. Since I lose nothing by feeling less guilty and ashamed, I don&#8217;t have to try to figure out a moderate, appropriate amount of guilt and shame to feel. I can light it all on fire indiscriminately, like a controlled burn of my own psyche, and trust that afterward the sedges and wildflowers will grow.</p><p>(As long as I make sure to still feel guilt about punching babies and shame about being a cult leader. But that&#8217;s not in question.)</p>
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   ]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Donation recommendations for effective altruists (July 2026)]]></title><description><![CDATA[My recommendation for donors who are American citizens or permanent residents is that they donate directly to high-value political candidates.]]></description><link>https://thingofthings.substack.com/p/donation-recommendations-for-effective-774</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://thingofthings.substack.com/p/donation-recommendations-for-effective-774</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Ozy Brennan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2026 12:03:12 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q39o!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F486e85b6-df85-48b3-9676-4804b06ccd04_1196x578.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My recommendation for donors who are American citizens or permanent residents is that they donate directly to high-value political candidates.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a></p><p>My recommendation for other donors is the GiveWell All Grants Fund, except other donors with idiosyncratic preferences who should donate to other things.</p><h2><strong>Why Is Donald Trump Bad?</strong></h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q39o!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F486e85b6-df85-48b3-9676-4804b06ccd04_1196x578.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Q39o!, /__u/thingofthings.substack.com/w_424, /__u/thingofthings.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/thingofthings.substack.com/f_webp, 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4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3><strong>U. S. Democracy</strong></h3><p>Let&#8217;s be clear about this: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_6_United_States_Capitol_attack">the current president of the United States tried to do a coup to overthrow the results of a free and fair election which he lost</a>.</p><p>It&#8217;s true it was an ineffectual coup that had little chance of succeeding. Once upon a time, however, attempting any coup would have ruled out someone from the presidency, and &#8220;well, he wasn&#8217;t very <em>good</em> at it&#8221; wasn&#8217;t considered a defense.</p><p>Donald Trump&#8217;s first presidency was remarkably similar to a normal Republican presidency. The norms and institutions of American democracy managed to check his most autocratic impulses. His aides <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear:_Trump_in_the_White_House#Content">managed to work around him</a> to get governing done. You wouldn&#8217;t have been unreasonable, in December 2024, to predict that Trump&#8217;s second term would mostly just be embarrassing.</p><p>Unfortunately, Trump has learned from his mistakes. At present, <a href="https://carnegie-production-assets.s3.amazonaws.com/static/files/Carrier%20Carothers-Democratic%20Backsliding-1.pdf">Trump is actively pursuing the consolidation of power in the executive branch</a>. It&#8217;s easy to get caught up in the endless waves of bad news from the Trump administration, many of which doesn&#8217;t distinguish the important (<a href="https://newrepublic.com/article/204227/trump-immigration-nightmare-happening-here">ICE mobilizations</a>) from the goofy (<a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2026/07/13/dc-reflecting-pool-renovation-timeline/90900332007/">the Reflecting Pool continues greenish</a>) to the frankly gossipy (<a href="https://www.theringer.com/2025/11/25/national-affairs/olivia-nuzzi-rfk-jr-ryan-lizza-explained-book-scandal">Olivia Nuzzi said what in her memoir?</a>). But let me try to lay out the situation as clearly as I can.</p><p><a href="https://protectdemocracy.org/work/retaliatory-action-tracker/">Trump has used retaliatory arrests and prosecutions against his political opponents</a>&#8212;something he&#8217;d explicitly promised to do before being elected. <a href="https://www.americanbar.org/groups/crsj/resources/human-rights/2026-march/trump-administrations-rampant-pay-to-play-corruption-threatens-our-democracy/">He is openly rewarding people and corporations for donations with high-level government positions, pardons, and political favors</a>. <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2025/08/18/the-number">Trump has profited from the presidency to the tune of $3 billion</a>, including bribes from authoritarian dictatorships like Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a>  </p><p>Trump is taking control of traditionally independent positions in the civil service&#8212;from <a href="https://www.stanfordlawreview.org/online/executive-branch-attacks-on-january-6-prosecutors-a-notable-case-of-democratic-backsliding/">prosecutors</a> to <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/sep/17/labor-statistics-chief-trump-erika-mcentarfer">the head of the Bureau of Labor Statistics</a> to the <a href="https://www.science.org/content/article/trump-fires-nsf-s-oversight-board">National Science Board</a>&#8212;and trying to fill them with political loyalists who will do his bidding. The Supreme Court&#8217;s recent <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_v._Slaughter">Trump v. Slaughter decision</a> found that the president has the power to remove independent agency heads (other than the Fed) at will, further increasing Trump&#8217;s power. </p><p>Trump is is subverting the checks and balances placed upon his power by the Constitution. He has <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/07/21/trump-court-orders-defy-noncompliance-marshals-judges/">openly defied as many as one in three court orders against him</a>. H<a href="https://www.stanfordlawreview.org/online/trumpian-impoundments-in-historical-perspective/">e has broken the law to avoid spending money allocated by Congress</a>. He has taken power from the states&#8212;most famously by <a href="https://www.npr.org/2025/12/23/nx-s1-5641959/supreme-court-chicago-national-guard">deploying California&#8217;s National Guard without the consent of the governor of California</a>. He has also targeted the institutions of civil society that are supposed to check the power of the president: <a href="https://cpj.org/tags/donaldtrump/">the press</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Targeting_of_law_firms_and_lawyers_under_the_second_Trump_administration">law firms</a>, <a href="https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/trumps-higher-education-crackdown-visa-revocations-dei-bans-lawsuits-and-funding-cuts">universities</a>. <a href="https://www.whitehouse.gov/releases/2026/07/trump-administration-unleashes-global-campaign-to-crush-radical-left-terrorism/">The administration has publicly stated that any leftists who protest that the government is violating their rights are lying</a>. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_v._Barbara">His disrespect for the Constitution extends to trying to end birthright citizenship</a>, one of the most fundamental rights protected by the Fourteenth Amendment. </p><p>Most frighteningly, Trump has continued to say he won the 2020 election. He <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardon_of_January_6_United_States_Capitol_attack_defendants">pardoned the January 6 rioters who, again, tried to perform a coup against the U.S. government to make him president</a>. <a href="https://www.cato.org/blog/anti-weaponization-fund-autopsy">He tried (and fortunately failed) to create a $1.8 billion fund to pay off victims of &#8220;weaponization and lawfare&#8221;, i.e. people prosecuted for election tampering or attempted insurrection</a>. <a href="https://www.reuters.com/investigations/they-prosecuted-capitol-rioters-now-rioters-doj-are-after-them-2025-12-17/">He has targeted the people who prosecuted the January 6 rioters</a>. <a href="https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/census-bureau-plans-to-use-survey-with-a-citizenship-question-in-its-test-for-2030-alarming-experts">He is meddling with the 2030 Census, which will govern apportionment and the Electoral College for the next decade.</a> <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c797q57ple9o">He has hinted publicly at wanting to run for an unconstitutional third term</a>. <a href="https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/trump-tries-to-undermine-trust-in-elections-but-documents-dont-support-his-claims">Trump continues to use false claims about election integrity to claim unconstitutional federal authority over elections</a>.</p><p>I find the behavior of Secretary of War Pete Hegseth particularly worrying. A friend of mine who works in U.S. defense policy says:</p><blockquote><p>So, if I was Hegseth, and trying to plot a coup, my main plan would be &#8220;fire people until the military coughs up someone more loyal to Trump than the Constitution&#8221;, which would take a while, but I might block promotions of the politically suspect (women and African-Americans), fire existing popular leadership so there wasn&#8217;t an obvious person to coalesce around as resistance, and try to increase morale and popularity with a bunch of dumb ideas. Getting us into a war would probably help on the margin.</p></blockquote><p>To be clear, Hegseth might not be trying to stage a coup! He might just be doing a horrifically bad job as Secretary of War. But if he was trying to prepare to stage a coup, it&#8217;s not obvious what he would be doing differently. </p><p><a href="https://www.metaculus.com/index/us-democracy-threat/?page=4">Metaculus forecasts a relatively high level of threat to U.S. democracy</a>; however, I find the Threat Index a bit hard to interpret. <a href="https://www.metaculus.com/questions/36389/us-no-longer-a-democracy-by-2030/">It also forecasts a 15% chance that the U.S. is no longer a democracy by 2030</a> but that one has fewer predictions.</p><p>Now, the situation is not quite as dire as it is in other countries backsliding from democracy. Trump has to prioritize removing independent civil servants because the U.S. government has a strong norm of an independent civil service and apolitical military; many other autocrats came to office with a civil service that was already seen as a tool of the presidency&#8217;s will and a source of patronage for its clients. Trump has defied the courts, but he hasn&#8217;t been able to fully bring them under his control. And Trump has mostly stuck to removing federal funding from civil-society institutions; he has yet to do mass arrests of his political enemies or make significant use of state-supported political violence.</p><p>But the Trump administration&#8217;s subversion of democratic norms is shockingly rapid. And instead of slowly going institution by institution, the Trump administration has attacked democratic norms on all levels simultaneously.</p><p>I also think U.S. democracy is far more important than democracy in Brazil or Turkey&#8212;at least for people who don&#8217;t live in any of those countries. On a practical level, America is currently the global hegemon. America being authoritarian, hostile to other countries, and irrational affects every country in the world. As one example, freedom of navigation&#8212;the principle that ships should be free to move in international waters&#8212;is <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_navigation#United_States_Freedom_of_Navigation_Program">enforced by the U.S. Navy</a>. If the US does not back freedom of the seas, global shipping becomes wildly more expensive at best and impossible at worst. In that case, many places that aren&#8217;t America would face economic collapse and starvation. That is merely one example of what can go wrong if America becomes a dictatorship run by a corrupt, irresponsible, incompetent man who is actively opposed to America&#8217;s role in the international order.</p><p>On a symbolic level, America is the best-known country in the world and a beacon of capitalist, liberal democracy, the best system of government ever invented. If we fall to illiberal autocracy, it emboldens dictators and human-rights violators all around the world. <a href="/__u/thingofthings.substack.com/p/how-human-rights-watch-counters-atrocities">The sense that human rights, liberalism, and democracy are good things is a very real constraint on what abusive governments can do</a>. America&#8217;s human rights track record&#8212;at home and abroad&#8212;is hardly spotless. But it sure as hell beats China or Russia. And I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;re going to like what happens when we replace an international order where governments give lip service to human rights with one of unrestrained will to power.</p><h3><strong>USAID</strong></h3><p>Under the Trump administration, USAID has been de facto destroyed. Fortunately, we&#8217;re not in the absolute worst-case scenario many people worried about in early 2025. Much of the funding has been restored, although not to previous levels. Foreign aid is now under the aegis of the State Department, which has a lot of other stuff going on and doesn&#8217;t have the institutional knowledge that USAID had. (<a href="/__u/asteriskmag.substack.com/p/the-politics-of-foreign-aid">This</a> is a good article about the current state of U.S. foreign aid and <a href="/__u/asteriskmag.substack.com/p/whats-the-state-of-pepfar-now">this</a> is a good article about the current state of PEPFAR.) </p><p>USAID was very far from a perfect organization. Indeed, much of the money spent by USAID was spent in ways that underperformed just giving people the cash, and <a href="https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/23875344/dean-karlan-usaid-foreign-aid">much of the organization was resistant to adopting more evidence-based policies</a>. <a href="https://ourworldindata.org/us-foreign-aid-saved-millions">But, ultimately, U.S. foreign aid saved 3.3 million lives per year</a>. Because the Trump administration callously smashed the foreign-aid infrastructure without any thought for how to replace it, <em>millions of people are going to die</em>. But, sure, we saved the Africans from woke DEI operas.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AN2o!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff3916d78-4a22-4303-a40e-ea621d42a041_1200x515.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AN2o!, /__u/thingofthings.substack.com/w_424, /__u/thingofthings.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/thingofthings.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/thingofthings.substack.com/q_auto:good, /__u/thingofthings.substack.com/fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff3916d78-4a22-4303-a40e-ea621d42a041_1200x515.jpeg 424w, /__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AN2o!, /__u/thingofthings.substack.com/w_848, /__u/thingofthings.substack.com/c_limit, 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Probably, yes. USAID spent sixty years as an uncontroversial bipartisan program. USAID was cut, not out of principled Republican opposition to foreign aid, but because of <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/03/elon-musk-says-usaid-is-beyond-repair-and-he-is-working-to-shut-it-down">the idiosyncratic personal views of Elon Musk.</a> Foreign aid, although <a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/02/06/what-the-data-says-about-us-foreign-aid/#how-do-americans-feel-about-foreign-aid">unpopular</a>, is a low-salience issue where the views of politicians and policymakers dominate. Politicians and policymakers like saving lives, particularly when it costs them nothing to do so.</p><h3><strong>The Iran War</strong></h3><p>I cannot believe I have to put a new section in this post.</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Iran_war">The war with Iran has been an unmitigated humanitarian and foreign-policy disaster</a>. It has weakened the United States&#8217;s international reputation and emboldened Iran, which now believes that it can stand up to a full-on military assault by the United States. It has accomplished nothing to bring freedom to the Iranian people. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Strait_of_Hormuz_crisis#Impacts">The blockage of the Strait of Hormuz has raised oil and fertilizer prices worldwide</a>. That means that <a href="https://news.un.org/en/story/2026/06/1167653">millions of people will go without food and the supply chains for crucial medicines and vaccines will be disrupted</a>. And, as always during wars, many innocent people are going to die. </p><p>I still remember when people said that we should vote for Trump because he wouldn&#8217;t entrap us in foreign-policy adventurism. </p><h3><strong>Artificial Intelligence?</strong></h3><p>The common-sense case for AI regulation is very simple. If the CEOs of the companies developing a technology go around, in public, saying that they think that a technology might drive humanity extinct, our regulatory approach shouldn&#8217;t be #yolo.</p><p>You don&#8217;t have to go full Eliezer Yudkowsky to support AI regulation. The vast majority of technologies-- new cancer treatments, better solar panels, balance bikes-- have a 0% chance of causing human extinction. If something has a 0.1% chance of causing human extinction, that entirely justifies staffing a division of regulators to ask pointed questions of the manufacturers.</p><p>I was convinced by <a href="https://80000hours.org/agi/guide/when-will-agi-arrive/">this article</a> that the date at which we will achieve artificial general intelligence is bimodal: either it will happen by 2030-2032, or it will be several decades away.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a> The author of this article puts about 50/50 odds on each possibility. I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;d go that far, but even a 5% chance of the development of AGI by 2030 is frightening.</p><p>If we get AGI soon, the Trump administration will develop the executive-branch regulations that govern this technology. It will also play a leadership role in getting laws passed about AGI. I find this worrying for several reasons. First, across policy areas, the Trump administration has shown little interest in consulting with experts or implementing evidence-based policies; it has eviscerated technocratic institutions and replaced them with political spoils for Trump loyalists. Do you want the man who appointed Robert F. Kennedy Jr. as Health Secretary or Pete Hegseth as Secretary of War to make decisions about a very important, very complex emerging technology? I don&#8217;t.</p><p>Second, <a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2025-06-11/marc-andreessen-s-silicon-valley-allies-in-the-trump-administration">Trump is specifically getting advice from Marc Andreessen</a>. You can read Marc Andreessen&#8217;s views on AI <a href="/__u/pmarca.substack.com/p/why-ai-will-save-the-world">here</a>. It is rather short on arguments that we shouldn&#8217;t be worried about AI risk, and long on accusations of AI safety advocates being a conspiracy theorist cult who read too much Mary Shelley. Nothing to worry about here! Surely if there&#8217;s one thing we&#8217;ve learned in the past twenty years it&#8217;s to trust in the disinterested, self-sacrificial altruism of tech billionaires.</p><p>Much like <a href="/__u/thingofthings.substack.com/p/the-four-guys-who-wouldnt-shut-up">a fossil-fuel executive advising about climate policy, or a tobacco company executive advising about the harms of smoking</a>, Marc Andreessen has no interest in admitting any harms or risks of his technology that might reduce his profit margins. This is a completely reckless approach to regulation of any powerful new technology.</p><h2><strong>Why Donations?</strong></h2><h3><strong>How Do Donations Help?</strong></h3><p>No one really knows how much it costs to flip a vote, sorry. Political moneyball is insanely complicated. Money can be spent well or wasted. No amount of money can convince voters to vote for an unelectable candidate; on the other hand, good candidate selection can make money go much farther. In some cases, it&#8217;s even possible for additional money to make a candidate less likely to get elected.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a></p><p>But it does seem obviously true that at least <em>some</em> ways of spending money make candidates more likely to win elections. Voter registration and get-out-the-vote efforts probably remind some people that elections are happening and convince them that they want to vote rather than scroll TikTok. If people have heard of a candidate and have some idea what she stands for, they might vote for her. Ozy&#8217;s Mom (my normie liberal focus group) often votes for local or statewide offices where she hasn&#8217;t heard of any of the candidates, so she picks either the woman or the person with an Asian-sounding or Latino-sounding surname. Advertisements can improve on this ignoble status quo.</p><p>Politicians spend a lot of time fundraising: some estimates suggest Congresspeople spend as much as 50% of their time fundraising. You have heard that calling your Congressperson is a good way to make your opinions known. But your voice goes farther if you donate.</p><h3><strong>Why To Candidates?</strong></h3><p>You should make donations directly to candidates (&#8221;hard money&#8221; donations).</p><p>Money given directly to a candidate goes farther because:</p><ul><li><p>Candidates get better rates on advertisements than non-candidates.</p></li><li><p>Outside groups aren&#8217;t allowed to coordinate with candidates. Hard-money donations allow candidates to have a unified strategy based on what does best in their internal polling. Money is less likely to be wasted through duplicating effort some other group has already made.</p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/how-money-shapes-pathways-power-congress">Candidates, even in safe seats, are expected to fundraise &#8220;dues&#8221; for their party to help their party win more contested elections</a>. Candidates who want powerful positions like committee chairs are expected to raise even more. These dues come from their hard-money funds. So donating to your candidate gives them more influence.</p></li></ul><p>A friend of mine says that campaign finance legislation is set up to give the top 10% more influence at the expense of the top 1%. How does this work?</p><p>The most you can donate to a federal political candidate is $7000 ($3,500 for the primary and $3,500 for the general). In many states, state-level candidates also have limits.</p><p>In conventional nonprofits, most funding comes from a small number of very rich people. For example, more than half of effective altruist funding comes from <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/NWHb4nsnXRxDDFGLy/historical-ea-funding-data-2025-update">Coefficient Giving</a>, which is mostly funded by a single person, Dustin Moskovitz.</p><p>If you maxed out donations to all the candidates I presently recommend, you would donate $64,000. That&#8217;s a pretty big chunk of change, but it&#8217;s approximately the donation budget of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_in_the_United_States">an American with 99th percentile income who has taken the Giving What We Can pledge</a>. That is also exactly the same amount as Dustin Moskovitz can donate to my recommended candidates.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a></p><p>In short, hard-money donations to political candidates are a very important area where the low-hanging fruit <em>cannot possibly be picked by billionaires</em>.</p><h3><strong>Who Shouldn&#8217;t Donate?</strong></h3><p>In the United States, your direct political donations to candidates are publicly available information. This doesn&#8217;t matter for most people; it might matter for you.</p><p>The most important caveat:</p><p><strong>If you are willing and able to take a </strong><em><strong>political appointee</strong></em><strong> position in the Trump administration, you shouldn&#8217;t make a donation to Democrats or anti-Trump Republicans (e.g. Rep. Thomas Massie) and you should probably take the position.</strong></p><p><strong>If you are willing and able to take a </strong><em><strong>civil service</strong></em><strong> position in the Trump administration, you should think carefully before making a donation and you should probably take the position.</strong><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-6" href="#footnote-6" target="_self">6</a></p><p>Obviously, you shouldn&#8217;t take a position that makes the Trump administration more effective at overthrowing American democracy. But the first Trump administration was an ordinary Republican administration because a huge number of policymakers, advisors, and civil servants thwarted Trump&#8217;s authoritarian instincts. To the extent you can put yourself in a position to do the same, you should.</p><p>Many heroic people serve in the Trump administration as political appointees: keeping vaccines somewhat more accessible, making AI regulation somewhat saner, preserving whatever scraps of foreign aid they can, being one more voice in the the Department of War or the State Department or the Department of Justice who will stand in the face of authoritarianism and say &#8220;no.&#8221; Consider how principled and conflict-friendly you are, get support from people who will hold you to your moral standards, save your money so you can quit if necessary, and take the job.</p><p>The vast majority of jobs in the US government are Civil Service roles. It is illegal for the government to discriminate in hiring for civil service roles based on your political affiliation, including your donations. However, the Trump administration has been known to break laws, and anecdotal evidence suggests that civil servants have faced career consequences for their political donations. Think carefully before donating.</p><p>You may not be well-suited to taking a job in the Trump administration. However, if you want certain political appointee positions, a history of donations to Democrats may hurt you. <a href="https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/8A8g4ryyZnaMhAQQF/considerations-around-career-costs-of-political-donations">Here</a> is a helpful quiz to help you figure out if you should avoid donating.</p><p>Most donation forms say that you can&#8217;t donate if you&#8217;re a federal contractor. This is primarily <a href="https://www.fec.gov/help-candidates-and-committees/federal-government-contractors/">a restriction on sole proprietors and corporations</a>. If you happen to work for a company that contracts with the federal government, you&#8217;re still allowed to donate.</p><h2><strong>Where To Donate?</strong></h2><p>Thing of Things recommends donating to <strong>Manny Rutinel</strong>, who is running in Colorado&#8217;s 8th District. Rutinel is a strong advocate for <a href="https://coloradosun.com/2025/10/22/manny-rutinel-animal-activism-congressional-bid/">farmed animal welfare</a> and for sensible regulation of AI (e.g. he supported <a href="https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/hb25-1212">whistleblower protections for AI lab employees</a>). </p><p><strong>People who prioritize AI safety should also donate to Scott Wiener</strong>, who is running in California&#8217;s 11th district. Scott Wiener&#8217;s campaigning led to <a href="https://www.brookings.edu/articles/what-is-californias-ai-safety-law/">SB-53</a>, which requires companies to have <em>some </em>plan to prevent catastrophic AI-related outcomes. Because of California&#8217;s <a href="https://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/primary-elections-california">top-two primary system</a>, Wiener is running against another Democrat. So non-AI-safety-focused donors shouldn&#8217;t donate to Wiener, because a Democrat will definitely represent San Francisco no matter what. On the other hand, Wiener&#8217;s campaign is a particularly good use of money for AI-safety-focused donors, because it&#8217;s much cheaper to convince Democrats to support a particular Democrat than to convince Republicans to support a Democrat. </p><p><strong>If you are a Republican who is concerned about AI safety, consider reaching out to <a href="https://theaipn.org/">the AI Policy Network</a>, who will be happy to recommend Republican donation targets.</strong></p><p>If you have more money burning a hole in your donations budget, Thing of Things follows <a href="https://www.slowboring.com/p/the-midterm-candidates-who-deserve">Slow Boring&#8217;s recommendations</a>. </p><p><strong>To flip the House and Senate</strong>:</p><ul><li><p>Bobby Pulido (U.S. House, TX-15)</p></li><li><p>Josh Turek (U.S. Senate, Iowa)</p></li><li><p>Mary Peltola (Alaska)</p></li><li><p>Bill Hill (Alaska at-large)</p></li><li><p>Johnny Garcia (TX-35)</p></li><li><p>Don Davis (NC-01)</p></li><li><p>Lindsay James (IA-2)</p></li><li><p>Bale Dalton (FL-7)</p></li></ul><p>Some state-level races are important for redistricting. This is a more morally complicated situation. I am opposed to gerrymandering, even if it benefits Democrats. But as long as Republicans have an advantage from their own gerrymandering, Democrats won&#8217;t achieve fairness by refusing to gerrymander themselves. Nevertheless, I think it makes sense to refuse to donate to advance gerrymandeirng.</p><p><strong>For redistricting</strong>: </p><ul><li><p>Anita Earls (North Carolina Supreme Court)</p></li><li><p>Keisha Lance Bottoms (Georgia governor)</p></li><li><p>Eileen Hartnett Albillar (Pennsylvania&#8217;s Sixth Senate District)</p></li><li><p>Sara Agerton (Pennsylvania House District 88)</p></li><li><p>John Kroll (Wisconsin&#8217;s Assembly District 85)</p></li></ul><p>If you don&#8217;t want to subscribe to Slow Boring, I will rerun this post when Matt Yglesias comes out with new recommendations.</p><h3><strong>Lobbying Congresspeople You Donate To</strong></h3><p>Some candidates&#8217; donation portals will allow you to include a message. You can always call a candidate&#8217;s offices and say that you maxed out your donations because you care about $issue, which I understand candidates do take into account. You will probably not get to talk to a candidate unless you&#8217;re e.g. a <a href="https://ballotpedia.org/Bundling">bundler</a> who convinces a number of individuals to donate.</p><h2><strong>Donations for Non-Americans, the Apolitical, Future Republican Staffers, Et Cetera</strong></h2><p><strong>Most donors should give to the GiveWell <a href="https://www.givewell.org/all-grants-fund">All Grants Fund</a>. </strong><a href="https://www.givewell.org/USAID">The USAID cuts mean that global poverty donations go farther than ever before</a>. The GiveWell All Grants Fund allows GiveWell to use its own discretion to make grants, which means that it has more flexibility to respond to the confusing and ever-changing aid cuts situation. GiveWell chose their Top Charities in a very different aid environment, in which U.S. foreign aid had some priority areas&#8212;such as HIV and health-systems strengthening<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-7" href="#footnote-7" target="_self">7</a>&#8212;well-handled. Donating to the All Grants Fund allows GiveWell to make time-sensitive grants in these areas, even though GiveWell has yet to complete full Top Charities investigations.</p><p>Donors with particular idiosyncratic beliefs may want to give to other global poverty charities. Specifically:</p><ul><li><p>Because malaria causes miscarriages, donating to the Against Malaria Foundation is by far the most effective charity for pro-life donors.</p></li><li><p>GiveWell is exploring programs such as <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/YnL6prYQbaLz22mxe/psa-for-vegan-donors-givewell-not-ruling-out-animal-based">giving farmed animals to developing-world farmers</a>. Certain animal advocates may prefer to give to the GiveWell Top Charities Fund so that none of their money goes to purchasing farmed animals.</p></li></ul><p>Donors who <a href="https://rethinkpriorities.org/research-area/an-introduction-to-the-moral-weight-project/">value</a> animals at a significant fraction of the amount they value humans may continue to want to donate to animal advocacy. Some donors may also want to donate to animal advocacy for other reasons (for example, to offset meat consumption).</p><ul><li><p>Donors who plan to donate over $10,000 a year and who care about farmed insects, farmed shrimps, or wild animals should contact Rethink Priorities to participate in their <a href="/__u/rpstrategicanimalinsights.substack.com/p/announcing-new-guides-and-a-network">Neglected Animals Program</a>, which collects publicly unavailable information to help medium-sized donors make the best decisions about helping neglected animals.</p></li><li><p>Donors who prefer a high level of certainty should donate to the Navigation Fund&#8217;s <a href="https://www.navigation.org/grants/farm-animal-welfare">cage-free egg campaign fund</a>. Cage-free egg campaigns affect chickens (who are almost certainly sentient) and are among the only animal advocacy interventions that have been conclusively shown to work. </p></li><li><p>Other donors should donate to the <a href="https://funds.effectivealtruism.org/funds/animal-welfare">EA Animal Welfare Fund</a>. You can find the most recent information about their plans <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/Gwss96MkMFawzoZKe/awf-s-plan-to-deploy-usd20m-to-scale-impact-for-billions-of">here</a> and their most recent payout report <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/z8Lr5euvnEsdBcdFg/animal-welfare-fund-payout-recommendations-from-july-to">here</a>.</p></li></ul><p>Some donors may continue to prioritize global priorities research. In this case, I continue to endorse Rethink Priorities as the most exciting organization working in the space. Rethink Priorities&#8217;s research addresses some of the most important issues of our time, from <a href="https://rethinkpriorities.org/research-area/mapping-salmon-welfare-1/">farmed salmon welfare</a> to <a href="https://rethinkpriorities.org/research-area/improving-the-lead-impact-model/">ending lead poisoning</a> to <a href="https://rethinkpriorities.org/research-area/strategic-directions-for-a-digital-consciousness-model/">digital minds</a>. Their approach is empirical: instead of ungrounded philosophical speculation, they dig deep into the evidence and find insights that people can actually use. They do consulting for real nonprofits, which keeps them connected to what nonprofits actually need. I am reliably impressed by Rethink Priorities&#8217; reports and always learn something when I read them.</p><p><em>Thanks to <a href="/__u/keller.substack.com/">Keller Scholl</a>, <a href="http://ericneyman.wordpress.com">Eric Neyman</a>, and three anonymous people. All mistakes are my own.</em></p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>This post might seem familiar! It&#8217;s a rerun of a post from earlier this year. I have updated it to contain FURTHER information about the depredations of Donald Trump and NEW information about which political candidates one ought to donate to. </p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Most of his profits, however, were stolen from his own supporters through, for example, borderline fraudulent meme stocks. That&#8217;s not super relevant to the subject of American democracy but it upsets me a lot. If people are loyal to you and trust you, you shouldn&#8217;t repay them by scamming them. </p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Of course, AI timelines are controversial among people who are worried about AI.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Effective altruists may remember the case of Carrick Flynn, where excessive soft money from FTX&#8217;s SuperPAC may have made voters see him as an out-of-touch &#8220;crypto candidate&#8221; being forced on them by Sam Bankman-Fried.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-5" href="#footnote-anchor-5" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">5</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>He can, of course, max out his donations to all Democratic political candidates, but even then any individual Democratic candidate will have trouble winning an election with nothing but $7000 of Moskbuxx.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-6" href="#footnote-anchor-6" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">6</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>If you are potentially interested in working in the Trump administration and are interested in emerging technologies (artificial intelligence or bioengineering), you can go <a href="https://emergingtechpolicy.org/newsletter/">here</a> for advising.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-7" href="#footnote-anchor-7" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">7</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>i.e. improving the logistics and data collection of a country&#8217;s healthcare system. Examples of health-systems strengthening include improving the collection of mortality statistics and making sure all hospitals have the amount of antibiotics they&#8217;re supposed to have.</p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Christians and effective altruism]]></title><description><![CDATA[I. As with the last time I reviewed an effective altruism book, I am using All The Lives You Can Change as a spur to write a barely related essay.]]></description><link>https://thingofthings.substack.com/p/christians-and-effective-altruism</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://thingofthings.substack.com/p/christians-and-effective-altruism</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Ozy Brennan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2026 12:04:39 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/841f6668-fd05-492f-81a8-c423e71580d6_596x894.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I.</p><p>As with <a href="/__u/thingofthings.substack.com/p/finding-your-passion-and-altruism">the last time I reviewed an effective altruism book</a>, I am using <a href="https://www.eerdmans.com/9780802885135/all-the-lives-you-can-change/">All The Lives You Can Change</a> as a spur to write a barely related essay. And as with the last time I reviewed an effective altruism book, I will open the piece by explaining who should read this book.</p><p>All The Lives You Can Change is an introduction to effective altruist ideas aimed at Christian readers.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a> If you read this Substack or otherwise participate in the effective altruist community, even if you&#8217;re a Christian, it will have almost no new information for you. However, if you&#8217;d enjoy reading about Badass Christians of the Past, you might want to get a copy and skip past all the introduction to EA stuff to read more about badass Christians. (I particularly recommend Oliver&#8217;s Story, page 35.)</p><p>However, as an introduction to effective altruist thought, All The Lives You Can Change seems unobjectionable. It covers the basic topics in an accessible way. I don&#8217;t know whether the authors master the ingroup signifiers of Protestantism.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a> But in general it seems like a good book to give to friends and family who are devout (Protestant) Christians and whom you think would be interested in effective altruism if it were presented to them properly, or who want to know about that effective altruism stuff you spend all your time doing. It also seems like potentially an interesting read for a church book group, if you&#8217;re an effective altruist Christian yourself who wants to introduce the ideas of effective altruism to your church.</p><p>II.</p><p>The entire time I was reading this book I was going: C A U S E P R I O R I T I Z A T I O N</p><p>Fundamentally, effective altruism comes from a <em>secular</em> set of assumptions. If you genuinely believe that an all-good God governs the universe, that suggests that <em>many</em> effective altruist assumptions are mistaken. In a secular context, like the Effective Altruism Forum, arguments should be made from secular principles. But in a religious context like All The Lives You Can Change, I really want to see rigorous cause prioritization work coming from a Christian worldview.</p><p>Global health is probably the area where Christians and secular effective altruists agree most. All The Lives You Can Change does a nice job highlighting the role of care for the poor in Scripture and Tradition (or whatever the Protestant equivalent of Scripture and Tradition is). Fundamentally, God has commanded Christians to feed the hungry and clothe the naked and look after the sick, and GiveWell is the best source of information about how to do that efficiently (especially now that they&#8217;ve expanded into <a href="https://blog.givewell.org/2025/09/23/givewell-expands-work-on-livelihoods-programs/">livelihoods research</a>).</p><p>All The Lives You Can Change addresses animal welfare but not in very much detail: it points out that there are a lot of farmed animals, and that many farmed animals are horrifically mistreated. But I&#8217;d like to see a more detailed discussion of animal welfare from a Christian perspective, perhaps along the lines of Matthew Scully&#8217;s <a href="https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780312319731/dominion/">Dominion</a>, which argues that God granting humans dominion over animals actually requires us to treat animals with mercy and stewardship.</p><p>From a secular perspective, humans are on a spectrum with animals: they suffer and feel joy the same way we do. Secular animal advocates emphasize that, because animals are similar to humans, they have the same rights humans do to be protected from unnecessary suffering or from exploitation. But from a Christian perspective, humans and animals are fundamentally different, because only humans have souls and were made in the image of God. You can be a Christian and advocate for animal welfare. But Christians come at animal advocacy from a different perspective than non-Christians, and I wanted to see that explored more thoroughly.</p><p>All The Lives You Can Change falters when it addresses longtermist cause areas, such as AI safety. From a Christian perspective, you know exactly how humanity is going to end, and it isn&#8217;t &#8220;an AI released a bioengineereed pandemic because it was afraid we would try to turn it off.&#8221; Furthermore, to Christians, the end of humanity as presently conceived isn&#8217;t the destruction of all value, the way it is for secular people; to the contrary, it&#8217;s the beginning of the world to come, a period of literally infinite goodness.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a></p><p>Furthermore, Christians almost all believe in objective morality. From a secular perspective, AI alignment is hard, because <a href="https://blog.bluedot.org/p/what-is-ai-alignment">you&#8217;re trying to specify one complicated set of goals that isn&#8217;t any different from nearby complicated sets of goals that would result in disaster</a>. But from a Christian perspective, the correct goals for AIs to have <em>are</em> different from other goals, because morality is a fact about the universe and not a fact about human minds. Under a Christian worldview, AI alignment is likely substantially easier than it is under secular worldviews.</p><p>Even from a Christian perspective, AI is a powerful technology, and some people ought to devote their careers to ensuring it goes well. But most people who work on AI safety believe that teaching an AI to want safe things is extremely difficult, and if we fail at it then all humans might die, and so destroy all value in the universe.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a> If you don&#8217;t accept any of those three beliefs, the case that AI risk is overwhelmingly important is pretty weak.</p><p>A Christian longtermism likely looks very different from a secular longtermism. Christians probably ought to be more sympathetic to patient longtermism, and also more sympathetic to <a href="https://80000hours.org/podcast/episodes/ben-todd-on-varieties-of-longtermism/#varieties-of-longtermism-000335">non-existential-risk-focused varieties of longtermism</a>. As such, I&#8217;d expect a Christian longtermism to focus on movement building, global priorities research, and saving money to donate decades or centuries in the future&#8212;all proposals that look good under patient longtermism. Similarly, Christian longtermism would probably focus more on making the future better, and less on making sure that there&#8217;s a future at all: for example, to the extent that it addresses AI, Christian longtermism probably ought to focus on <a href="https://www.forethought.org/research/agi-and-lock-in">values lock-in</a> and <a href="https://gradual-disempowerment.ai/">gradual disempowerment</a>, rather than existential risk.</p><p>I also think a Christian longtermism should potentially focus on preserving the global church. One of the longest-lasting human institutions is the Christian church (specifically its Catholic and Orthodox strains). Guiding the church itself and ensuring its preservation seems like a crucial cause area for Christian longtermists.</p><p>Of course, if you believe existential risk is impossible and the future is inevitably going to be great, the case for longtermism itself&#8212;that is, the idea that one of our major moral priorities should be making sure the long-term future goes well&#8212;is much weaker. Longtermism is important to secular people because secular people believe the world <em>isn&#8217;t </em>guided by God&#8217;s providence. If it is, shaping the future yourself seems much less important!</p><p>All The Lives You Can Change, however, recommends a longtermism whose conclusions are pretty similar to the conclusions of secular effective altruists. Some of its arguments&#8212;that there might be a lot of people in the future, and that we tend to underweight the future&#8212;seem plausible. But it also says:</p><blockquote><p>The theologian N. T. Wright argues that building just institutions, and attending to the needs of the world around us, is fully compatible with a belief in the end times. This is because the &#8220;new creation&#8221; should be understood as a fulfillment, rather than a replacement, of our efforts to build a better world. Our role in building this new creation may mean investing in institutions, policies, and actions that affect future generations; we should trust God to honor this good work, rather than see our long-term actions as futile.</p><p>what we don&#8217;t know is the mechanism by which humans are saved from extinction. It may be that God fulfills his plans through our actions; there is plenty of precedent for this in the Bible, from Mary&#8217;s obedience to Judas&#8217;s treachery... A Christian might very reasonably conclude that God is calling her to faithfully work to prevent human extinction, even if she trusts that such an extinction may never happen, and God may be using her to prevent that very outcome.</p></blockquote><p>It&#8217;s not like these arguments are <em>wrong</em>, precisely. It&#8217;s just that they feel like the author first wrote &#8220;Christian effective altruists should prioritize the same longtermist cause areas secular effective altruists do&#8221; as their conclusion on the bottom of the page, and then filled in any argument that came to hand.</p><p>Certainly many Christians believe that Christians work to bring about the New Creation.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a> But I&#8217;m not sure why that would mean preventing great power conflict or improving political institutions, instead of giving people malaria nets or fighting factory farming. Malaria and factory farming aren&#8217;t part of the New Creation either! The division being made here is one that makes sense from a secular perspective; if you want to make the argument that preventing great power conflict and improving political institutions are better ways of building the New Creation than preventing malaria and doing cage-free egg campaigns, you have to make that argument from Christian principles.</p><p>Similarly, &#8220;maybe God is using us as His tools to accomplish the inevitable continued existence of humanity&#8221; raises serious questions about causality and <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/topics/cluelessness">cluelessness</a>. What&#8217;s the counterfactual here? If God is definitely not going to let humanity go extinct, wouldn&#8217;t the counterfactual impact of existential risk work be literally zero? Or maybe we&#8217;d be putting God in the position of making some kind of unfortunate tradeoff: maybe He brings about a civilizational collapse because that&#8217;s the only way to prevent a bioengineered pandemic that kills everyone. Does this suggest that we should focus on preventing existential risks that cause an unfortunate tradeoff for God (like bioengineered pandemics) over those that definitely don&#8217;t (God can simply make sure there aren&#8217;t any planetkiller asteroids around)?</p><p>If you accept the premise that you should do work with zero counterfactual impact because you might be God&#8217;s tool, the entire way effective altruists reason about effectiveness is caused into question. <a href="https://80000hours.org/career-guide/can-one-person-make-a-difference/#how-much-difference-do-doctors-actually-make">Developed-world doctors have a relatively small counterfactual impact</a>, but maybe God chose you as His tool to perform amputations for reasons of His own. This argument saves existential risk work at the cost of effective altruism itself.</p><p>The section I found least convincing was the section on evangelism. From a Christian effective altruist perspective, Christian evangelism is extremely important. Like helping the poor, it is the subject of an explicit commandment from God (<a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2028%3A16-20&amp;version=NIV">the Great Commission</a>). In Christian theology, forming a personal relationship with God is the literal purpose of human existence. And&#8212;not to put too fine a point on it&#8212;the mainstream Christian belief is that non-Christians are risking a literal eternity of torture. Seems bad!</p><p>I agree that the Bible commands a portfolio approach where Christians both help the poor and do evangelism. Christians can&#8217;t accept the straightforward consequentialist argument that any risk of eternal torture outweighs any finite suffering in this life. The argument I&#8217;m most skeptical of is:</p><blockquote><p>One view is that becoming a Christian is a spiritual process that is deeply personal. Many Christians throughout history have experienced it as a revelation or as God&#8217;s grace working in us, rather than us playing an active part in the process. Even if friends, family, authors, and pastors have supported our faith journeys, to many of us faith can feel more like God&#8217;s mysterious gift rather than an outcome that others have produced in us. Some denominations go even further and place the responsibility for conversion fully in God&#8217;s hands, such that entire revivals are the direct intervention of the Holy Spirit rather than the result of clever human strategizing about church growth.</p><p>Clearly, Christians have different models of conversion, but under all models, evangelism arguably works in a somewhat different way from providing food for the hungry or jabs for the unvaccinated. To put it crudely, there is less human agency and more divine agency. There is no button to press on a machine, much less predictability about outcomes, and it becomes harder to apply human models to maximize results.</p><p>This is primarily a point about tractability; it is not easy for us to control or guarantee conversions, and therefore difficult for us to adopt an &#8220;effective&#8221; approach to evangelism. However, there is also a point about division of labor. Since the Bible clearly indicates that the demands of the Christian life are more than just evangelism, including living our lives in certain ways and attending to the earthly needs of those around us, it is plausible that strategizing about saving souls on a macro level is more God&#8217;s job than ours.</p></blockquote><p>But the exact argument used in favor of working on existential risk can be used in favor of evangelism: even if God wills that a particular person be saved, He might have chosen you as His tool to save them. And whether any particular person is saved is (clearly) <em>far </em>more in question than whether God would allow humanity to be unexpectedly driven extinct or whether the world to come is devoid of all value.</p><p>Besides, most effective altruist cause areas are hard to control or guarantee. Is evangelism really harder to collect evidence about than AI alignment, alternative protein development, the preservation of American democracy, or global priorities research? Under Christian premises, God is certainly <em>particularly</em> involved in conversions, but are we to assume that His involvement is qualitatively different than His involvement in malaria nets or cash transfers? Doesn&#8217;t God Himself have a special concern for the poor? Isn&#8217;t every human a subject of His special care, protection, guidance, and love?</p><p>Overall, I felt like I wanted significantly more thought about cause prioritization. A friend of mine, a serious Christian and serious effective altruist, has done her own cause prioritization work. Because she&#8217;s pro-life, she donates to the Against Malaria Foundation, which she believes to be the most cost-effective way to prevent miscarriages. And she considers healing the Great Schism to be potentially one of the top effective altruist cause areas. It&#8217;s this energy I wanted from All The Lives You Can Change, and it&#8217;s this energy I wasn&#8217;t getting.</p><p>Christianity is a set of fact claims, which imply <em>different </em>actions than the fact claims believed by the average atheist effective altruist. A Christian effective altruist&#8217;s cause prioritization shouldn&#8217;t look like an atheist effective altruist&#8217;s cause prioritization.</p><p>III.</p><p>The passage in All The Lives You Can Change that most stuck with me is:</p><blockquote><p>The Christian message starts first and fully with affirming our weakness. It doesn&#8217;t start with us pulling ourselves together. It starts with acknowledging that the superpowers described in this book have been put into frail hands. And when we acknowledge this, God&#8217;s work can start...</p><p>since Christianity affirms our weakness while simultaneously affirming our infinite worth, the two must be compatible. God loves us&#8212;no matter what. His love is independent of whether we have much potential to make the world a better place, and of whether we make good use of this potential. Our impact and our worth are utterly independent from each other. You may be Norman Borlaug, whose actions fed billions&#8212;or you may be a random person in a small town struggling with failed relationships, addiction, and a slow-moving career. From God&#8217;s perspective, the two of you are equally fascinating, valuable, and infinitely worthy of his love...</p><p>affirming our weakness means, perhaps surprisingly, that we can aim high. How come? Because of grace; we don&#8217;t need to be overwhelmed by the gap between our ambition and our actions. In contrast, the secular world often finds it harder to acknowledge the chasm between our high ideals and our pitiful failures. And the secular response to this chasm can be to dial down our standards: Aren&#8217;t we pretty decent anyway, at least most of the time, and surely when compared to some of history&#8217;s true villains? Low standards feel like the only livable standards. But this is not the Christian route. Instead of watering down ideals, we can simply accept our shortcomings and rely on God&#8217;s grace to make the gap bearable.</p></blockquote><p>Effective altruists like strength. More people than would like to admit the fact joined the effective altruism through reading Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality, in which Harry James Potter-Evans-Verres famously says, &#8220;<a href="https://hpmor.com/chapter/27">Every time someone cries out in prayer and I can&#8217;t answer, I feel guilty about not being God</a>.&#8221;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-6" href="#footnote-6" target="_self">6</a></p><p>A lot of effective altruists, even those that joined the community in some more dignified manner, are sympathetic to Harry James Potter-Evans-Verres here. It feels like it ought to be possible to <em>become better</em> and <em>fix everything</em>. When I summarized effective altruism in three traits, <a href="/__u/thingofthings.substack.com/p/ea-definitions-series-ambition">one of them was ambition</a>. Even once we&#8217;ve made our peace with not being able to solve any problem with a snap of our fingers, we like becoming more powerful, richer, better-connected, more intelligent, more diligent, more skilled, more able to shape the world to our will.</p><p>I&#8217;m not different here. My blog description, for a long time, has been &#8220;the nicest herrenmoralist&#8221;, which is <a href="https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/matt-yglesias-considered-as-the-nietzschean">the best compliment Scott Alexander ever gave me</a>. To me, that means you ought to become brave and strong and talented and powerful, all that Nietzschean master morality stuff, and then you ought to <em>use</em> your courage and strength and talent and power not for self-aggrandizement but to make the world better.</p><p>&#8220;Every time someone cries out in prayer and I can&#8217;t answer, I feel guilty about not being God&#8221; is, for obvious reasons, less appealing to people who believe there is a literal God in His Heaven Whose hand is guiding the world with wisdom and love. Secular effective altruists tend to be <a href="https://joecarlsmith.com/2024/01/04/deep-atheism-and-ai-risk/">deep atheists</a>; the only people who can improve on the barbarity and suffering of the world we have been given are us, and since <a href="https://squareallworthy.tumblr.com/post/163790039847/everyone-will-not-just">it is notably difficult to get &#8220;us&#8221; to do anything</a>, that really means that the only person who can do anything about it is <em>you</em>.</p><p>But I&#8217;m still interested in the prospect of approaching effective altruism from a perspective of weakness. Heroic responsibility, ambition, herrenmoralism, and the rest all have the problem that they have nothing to say to you when you <em>fail</em>. Just git gud. If you can&#8217;t git gud, then idk you&#8217;re an NPC and Homer will allot half a metric foot to Achilles stabbing you with a spear. </p><p>And everyone is going to fail. For one thing, disease and depression and irreversible serious mistakes and errors of judgment and grief and aging are the human condition.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-7" href="#footnote-7" target="_self">7</a> But there&#8217;s a deeper thing here.</p><p>If you&#8217;re sufficiently ambitious, a version of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_principle">the Peter Principle</a> applies to your own life. If you reach your goals, you will raise your sights, which means that you will pursue more and more ambitious goals until you find a goal you can&#8217;t achieve. It might be &#8220;become the president of the United States&#8221;, it might be &#8220;get out of bed this morning&#8221;, but regardless your targets will rise to the level of your incompetence.</p><p>Since incompetence is an inevitable feature of the ambitious life, we ought to figure out some way to deal with it. And I think a good approach here does, in some sense, involve affirming our weakness. To an atheist, there isn&#8217;t a specific Person Who believes that you are fascinating, valuable, and infinitely worthy of love. But I think there is some sense in which all sentient beings and all beings that can rationally pursue their own vision of the Good are fascinating, valuable, and worthy of love. I wrote in a review of <a href="https://asteriskmag.com/issues/02/the-virtue-of-wonder-martha-nussbaum-s-justice-for-animals">Martha Nussbaum&#8217;s Justice for Animals</a>:</p><blockquote><p>Nussbaum highlights three essential virtues in thinking about animals: wonder, which draws our attention to the value of animals; compassion, which alerts us to suffering; and outrage without the desire for retribution, which motivates us to improve the world. Compassion and outrage are common and valued in the animal advocacy community, but wonder is rarer.<br><br>The virtue of wonder is both amazement at animals&#8217; unique ways of life and curiosity about why they behave the way they do. When we wonder at an animal, we recognize that their behavior has a purpose, that there is something it is like to be them, and we try to understand. Wonder, she writes, &#8220;takes us out of ourselves and toward the other&#8230; [It has] nothing to do with our own personal search for well-being. It is connected to our original joy at life itself.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>All sentient beings are a proper object of compassion and wonder, simply by virtue of being sentient. We can only feel a certain amount of wonder at a time; if I feel wonder at a dolphin&#8217;s echolocation, then I&#8217;m not feeling it about the problem-solving abilities of octopuses. But that doesn&#8217;t make the octopuses any less deserving of wonder. And if I am awestruck by octopuses, who can&#8217;t even comprehend the concept of taking the Giving What We Can pledge, then perhaps I can also feel awe at myself, in spite of my difficulties budgeting to fulfill same.</p><p>But the second part of the quote&#8212;affirming weakness as a way to aim high&#8212;is something I desperately feel the need for, and something I don&#8217;t have a good answer to. </p><p>I don&#8217;t have God&#8217;s grace to rely on to make the gap between my ideals and my shortcomings bearable. Like the authors of All The Lives You Can Change, I observe that most people in the secular world dial down their standards until they&#8217;re achievable, and I refuse to do so; I am not going to settle for being a decent person. But I don&#8217;t believe in God. I don&#8217;t even believe I can become God. And I don&#8217;t have a great answer for how to deal with my inevitable failures and shortcomings without being able to rely on the grace of a being I don&#8217;t think exists. But I do think it&#8217;s worth taking seriously as an aspect of how to live well in a world beyond the reach of God.</p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Implicitly Protestant&#8212;not a ton of references to the Pope or the Church Fathers here.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I am <a href="/__u/thingofthings.substack.com/p/why-im-a-quaker">a weird kind of Protestant</a> and only dubiously a Christian at all. The atheism is a bit of a problem. </p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Although I&#8217;m discussing AI here, a similar argument applies to nuclear war and bioengineered pandemics.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Or a substantial fraction of the value in the universe, if AIs are sentient.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-5" href="#footnote-anchor-5" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">5</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>This is the Quaker eschatology, so I&#8217;m fond of it.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-6" href="#footnote-anchor-6" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">6</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>And then he remarks that the solution to this problem is to &#8220;hurry up and become God.&#8221;</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-7" href="#footnote-anchor-7" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">7</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>So far, growth mindset.</p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Thing of Things AI use policy]]></title><description><![CDATA[dynomight recently wrote an article calling for bloggers to state publicly whether and how they use AI]]></description><link>https://thingofthings.substack.com/p/thing-of-things-ai-use-policy</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://thingofthings.substack.com/p/thing-of-things-ai-use-policy</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Ozy Brennan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2026 12:03:33 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/a19fc828-cdf9-4ffa-a245-5b21aeb296a9_4000x2256.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://dynomight.net/blink/">dynomight</a> recently wrote an article calling for bloggers to state publicly whether and how they use AI:</p><blockquote><p>I bring this up because I&#8217;m worried that blogs are heading into a sort of lemon market. You&#8217;ve surely had the experience of reading an essay only to slowly become dismayed as you realize it was AI-written. What&#8217;s the equilibrium? I expect that some people have already cut back on reading essays, at least from non-established authors. Over time, I expect this will lead to fewer humans writing essays, further increasing the density of AI-generated content, driving more people to cut back on reading, et cetera. This is bad because blogs are good.<br><br>As that cycle turns, social norms are also changing. Cast your mind back to the old world, five years ago. At that time, if you had started a blog and posted AI-generated essays without telling anyone, I&#8217;m reasonably certain that would have been considered a dick move. (Future generations will marvel.) But today, the largest corporations appear to do that all the time. There&#8217;s incredible momentum towards a world where AI can be used anywhere, for any purpose, with no disclosure, and that&#8217;s fine.</p><p>But it <em>is</em> fine! At this point, trying to bully people into proactive disclosure is just a tax on honesty / consciousness / integrity. Instead, I suggest we agree that arbitrary usage is, by default, fine. Instead, let&#8217;s work at the other end: If you have chosen to impose limits on your AI usage, then state those limits publicly. If you&#8217;re human, tell me...</p></blockquote><p>I think this is a good idea so I&#8217;m doing it.</p><p>Like dynomight, I will<strong> &#8220;guarantee that every word I post here is the product of me physically hitting keys with my fingers.</strong> The only exceptions would be quotes from other humans or something that&#8217;s clearly labeled as an AI output.&#8221;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a></p><p>The most common way I use AI when writing posts is as an advanced search engine and/or thesaurus: I ask questions like &#8220;Synonyms for &#8216;safe&#8217; in the sense of being free from danger?&#8221; or &#8220;What are some events that have a 1% probability?&#8221; or &#8220;what&#8217;s the word for the thing where if a small interest group would be helped a lot by a policy, and everyone else would be harmed a tiny bit by that policy, the policy is more likely to get passed because none of the people harmed care enough to protest?&#8221; I do this probably three or four times a post.</p><p>I use AIs to check facts in blog posts: &#8220;there are definitely Chinese temples that are critically acclaimed by architects, right?&#8221;, &#8220;can you give an example of an extremely niche kind of quantitative trading someone might specialize in?&#8221;, &#8220;what&#8217;s a hemiellipsoid body? Please explain to me like I&#8217;m five.&#8221; I usually independently fact-check anything the AI tells me; I ask it for sources and then read the sources myself, or I google keywords and follow up with a reliable source. Occasionally I don&#8217;t bother&#8212;for example, if the fact is supposed to add color to an example or a joke, rather than being information I expect people to rely on.</p><p>I use AIs regularly to find papers for lit reviews, if I&#8217;m writing a post that requires a lit review, instead of digging through Google Scholar and paper citations myself. When I&#8217;m doing a literature review post, I read all the papers myself, rather than relying on an AI summary.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a> I may occasionally ask AIs to explain aspects of a paper I don&#8217;t understand.</p><p>I have yet to use Claude Code to analyze data, but I expect I will in the future. When using Claude Code to analyze data, I will thoroughly look over the code to make sure that I understand what all of it is doing and that I approve. One of my beta readers doubts my claim here because Claude Code produces so much code that it is impractical to check all the data analysis code manually, but I would much rather write my own data analysis code than publish data analysis I don&#8217;t understand and might not stand by. </p><p>Probably I would use AIs to generate tables and graphs, if I ever put tables and graphs in my Substack, which I don&#8217;t because I&#8217;m not a visual thinker.</p><p>I don&#8217;t use AIs for editing nonfiction. Frankly, I don&#8217;t edit my nonfiction that much at all. At least 40% of the time you guys are reading my unedited first drafts.</p><p>I don&#8217;t use AIs for brainstorming blog posts because it feels icky. I want to develop my ideas through <s>getting in arguments on Discord</s> forthright and rational debate with people I respect, the way Socrates intended. I want to get several different perspectives on a nascent idea, and modern AIs can only give me one perspective. Besides, &#8220;arguing with people in a way that might become a blog post&#8221; is like 15% of my social interaction. This is the stance that is least likely to change, at least before we build a Dyson sphere out of Mercury.</p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Can we call this the Dynomight Pledge?</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Sometimes this is a heroic act of self-sacrifice.</p><p></p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Linkpost for July]]></title><description><![CDATA[Effective Altruism]]></description><link>https://thingofthings.substack.com/p/linkpost-for-july-2c6</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://thingofthings.substack.com/p/linkpost-for-july-2c6</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Ozy Brennan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2026 12:03:09 GMT</pubDate><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Effective Altruism</strong></p><p><em>Global Poverty</em></p><p><a href="https://www.theargumentmag.com/p/elon-musks-zero-accountability-life">Elon Musk is likely responsible for the deaths of millions of people through cutting USAID</a> [The Argument].</p><p><em>Animal Advocacy</em></p><p><a href="https://www.wildanimalinitiative.org/library/cause-of-death-3">Adult wild terrestrial vertebrates from large species seem to be most likely to die from human action, such as hunting or vehicle collisions</a> [Wild Animal Initiative]. Juvenile terrestrial vertebrates and terrestrial vertebrates from small species seem to be most likely to die of predation. Insects seem to be most likely to die of parasitism and predation. Fish are too understudied to say anything one way or the other. These findings are relevant to whether wild animals have lives worth living-- often, people who believe that wild animal lives are net-negative assume that wild animals die in slow and painful ways, but the evidence for that claim is slight. Predation seems to me to be a quick death, at least sometimes.</p><p><a href="https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10539-023-09901-5">Wild animal lives aren&#8217;t necessarily net-negative</a> [Biology &amp; Philosophy]. We don&#8217;t know how much suffering an average dying animal experiences, how bad various negative experiences are, or how good and common various positive experiences are. In species that produce a large number of offspring the vast majority of which die young, many of the young may be nonsentient, and if the surviving offspring live long enough their happiness might outweigh the suffering of the animals which die young. In conclusion, we can&#8217;t know whether there is net suffering in nature.</p><p>We are often clueless about the most important effects of an intervention-- for example, whether a particular animal welfare intervention makes the animal advocacy movement more unpopular and thus decreases the likelihood of abolishing animal agriculture entirely. <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/8Y9byyfpBpjGiW5mG/what-to-do-about-near-term-cluelessness-in-animal-welfare">Principles for figuring out what interventions are good when we&#8217;re clueless</a> [Effective Altruism Forum]: accounts for potential, sufficiently certain negative side effects; doesn&#8217;t rely entirely on made-up numbers, tiny probabilities, or which particular reference class you choose; and doesn&#8217;t have a lot of unknown unknowns, because the intervention is testable, you can stop doing it if it turns out to be bad, and isn&#8217;t dependent on a long trend of causal reasoning.</p><p><em>Existential Risk and AI</em></p><p><a href="https://manishearth.github.io/blog/2026/06/17/the-future-of-the-con-is-already-here">In the past, scams had to be cheap, because most people don&#8217;t have that much money </a>[In Pursuit of Laziness]. Large language models make it much cheaper to run scams, which means that we should expect to see more elaborate scams targeting ordinary people in the future. Our heuristics about how to avoid being scammed will need to update.</p><p>People often call for AI to be democratically governed. But <a href="https://blog.andymasley.com/p/what-does-it-mean-for-ai-to-be-democratic">we should distinguish between pluralist democracy (compromise between people with different values and lifestyles so they all have control over their lives with limited ability to control others) and homogenizing democracy (the faith that the majority knows what the right values and lifestyles are and should be left free to enforce them on others) </a>[Andy Masley]. Often, calls for AI to be more democratic end up erasing large minority groups such as &#8220;people who actually want to use AI.&#8221; Also, a lot of people are wrong or have bad values, so we probably don&#8217;t want to set AI values by committee.</p><p><em>American Democracy</em></p><p><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2026/06/21/tulsi-gabbard-her-guru-mysterious-messages-that-helped-shape-her-political-career/">Tulsi Gabbard seems to have spent much of her political career getting advice from her guru, the leader of a breakaway Hare Krishna group</a> [Washington Post].</p><p><a href="/__u/radleybalko.substack.com/p/how-the-free-press-spun-trumps-cruelty">A deep dive into whether Trump saved undocumented immigrant children from sex trafficking (no)</a> [The Watch]. In fact, Trump&#8217;s policies probably increased the rate of trafficking-- for example, he slashed funding for the government&#8217;s primary anti-trafficking office and made it harder for victims of trafficking who report the crime to get a visa. Many so-called &#8220;lost&#8221; children were found simply by checking the address they were supposed to be and discovering they were there.</p><p><strong>Particularly Good:</strong> <a href="https://www.derekthompson.org/p/can-america-escape-the-cycle-of-vicemaxxing">the post-virtue era of politics in which, instead of saying &#8220;my opponent did something morally wrong, she shouldn&#8217;t do that,&#8221; we say &#8220;my opponent did something morally wrong, which justifies anything morally wrong that I do&#8221; </a>[Derek Thompson].</p>
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   ]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Ozy Maybe At Metagame!]]></title><description><![CDATA[You should come to Metagame, the gaming conference in Berkeley, which runs from November 6 through 8.]]></description><link>https://thingofthings.substack.com/p/ozy-maybe-at-metagame</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://thingofthings.substack.com/p/ozy-maybe-at-metagame</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Ozy Brennan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2026 09:00:15 GMT</pubDate><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should come to <a href="https://metagame.games/">Metagame</a>, the gaming conference in Berkeley, which runs from November 6 through 8. I may or may not be attending Metagame myself, because my second child&#8217;s due date is November 30, but if I&#8217;m attending I will give a talk of some kind about games!</p><p>Metagame is for all kinds of games: board games, card games, tabletop RPGs, video games, LARPs, escape rooms, puzzles, Blood on the Clocktower, and stabbing each other with taser knives. I enjoyed it a lot and I recommend it if you enjoy games.</p><p>My son Vasili and I went to the 2025 Metagame. Ever since, Vasili has been lobbying for Second Metagame. &#8220;How long until Metagame happens again?&#8221; he asked. &#8220;Will it happen again this month?&#8221; He even made me message one of the organizers on Discord to beg for Second Metagame to happen so that he could go to it. I have no evidence of this but I believe that Metagame 2026 happened solely because the organizers don&#8217;t wish to disappoint my adorable eight-year-old.</p><p>Here is Vasili&#8217;s review of Metagame.</p><blockquote><p>Metagame is pretty good for people who like games. All games there are fun and enjoyable. I liked playing Ultimate Tic-Tac-Toe. That is all the things I have to say.</p></blockquote><p>Anyway, regardless of whether I manage to attend, you should check it out.</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Ozy in Asterisk on coping with AI doom]]></title><description><![CDATA[I wrote an article for Asterisk Magazine about people who believe in AI superintelligence soon, and who are chill about it.]]></description><link>https://thingofthings.substack.com/p/ozy-in-asterisk-on-coping-with-ai</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://thingofthings.substack.com/p/ozy-in-asterisk-on-coping-with-ai</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Ozy Brennan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2026 13:05:29 GMT</pubDate><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote <a href="https://asteriskmag.com/issues/14/the-doomers-are-all-right">an article</a> for Asterisk Magazine about people who believe in AI superintelligence soon, and who are chill about it. Check it out!</p><p>Here&#8217;s a quote:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;I was born with a terminal condition,&#8221; said Matthew Gray, a board member at the existential risk community-building nonprofit Lightcone Infrastructure. &#8220;We call it aging. I&#8217;ve since picked up another. We call it multiple sclerosis. And AI is a third one on top. I&#8217;m not very worried about degenerating from multiple sclerosis because I&#8217;m pretty sure the robots will kill me first, just like I wasn&#8217;t that worried about aging-related deterioration because multiple sclerosis will get me first.&#8221;</p><p>From this perspective, AI doomers don&#8217;t face a new problem; they face the oldest problem humanity has ever faced.</p><p>I pushed back. If I look at an actuarial table, I can expect another 47 years of life. I&#8217;d be pretty upset to discover I had only five.</p><p>This, my interviewees thought, was naive. Even without AI risk, I could have been hit by a car; I could have gotten cancer; I could have been nuked in a hot war between Russia and the United States. It&#8217;s not that the difference in probability doesn&#8217;t matter. It&#8217;s worse to be certain that I&#8217;ll die in five years than to have a 50% chance of not hitting my allotted 47. But because my death has always been an inevitability, I have been coping all along with the precarity of my existence. From this perspective, AI risk isn&#8217;t shocking and unfamiliar; it&#8217;s a significantly worse version of a problem I already know I have to deal with.</p></blockquote>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Critically acclaimed art is also popular]]></title><description><![CDATA[Scott Alexander has been writing more about good taste.]]></description><link>https://thingofthings.substack.com/p/critically-acclaimed-art-is-also</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://thingofthings.substack.com/p/critically-acclaimed-art-is-also</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Ozy Brennan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2026 12:02:34 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/youtube/w_728,c_limit/OmrUJ3ssLPM" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott Alexander has been writing <a href="https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/nostalgebraists-hydrogen-jukeboxes">more about good taste</a>.</p><blockquote><p>My daughter&#8217;s favorite song is &#8220;Choo Choo Train&#8221; (my son&#8217;s favorite song shifts with time of day, mood, and the alignment of the planets). It&#8217;s the auditory equivalent of the Lisa Frank poster. A woman who sounds like she is on several hundred milligrams of cocaine sings &#8220;Cha cha cha cha CHOO CHOO TRAIN!&#8221; in the most chipper voice you can imagine, accompanied by an in-your-face melody and the sound of train whistles. My wife and I have both gotten it stuck in our heads and it will likely stay there until the day we die. Both twins like the song &#8220;If You&#8217;re Happy And You Know It&#8221;, because it contains the word &#8220;happy&#8221;, which makes it cheerful, and it gives them an excuse to dance and clap their hands.</p><p>(meanwhile, the sophisticated people are into atonal music with no detectable melody or lyrics, which has systematically stripped away all of the things normal people like about music to produce a form of quality that hinges entirely on a set of mathematical relationships incomprehensible to 99% of the world).<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a></p><p>My children&#8217;s favorite food item is juice. Their particular favorite orange juice is calorically 90% sugar, with a tiny amount of orange-associated chemicals for flavoring. There&#8217;s no mystery why we are innately/evolutionarily attracted to sugar, and it&#8217;s hardly difficult to make this: I&#8217;ve created similarly delicious lemonades with just lemon and sugar.</p><p>(meanwhile, the sophisticated people are into some kind of incomprehensible foam with 296 ingredients, which only one chef in the world can prepare properly, which tastes slightly like the color chartreuse).</p><p>I previously talked about cases where I think taste is fake, but admitted there was a core definition that seemed to be &#8220;really there&#8221;. I claim that <em>poor</em> <em>taste</em> is what happens when an artist overuses the cheapest and easiest tricks that everyone naturally innately likes, the sort you could compress into a small AI model, and which people with long exposure to the form find irritating through overuse. <em>Good taste</em> is when you deliberately avoid these blaring klaxons, leaving room for the attention to settle on subtler, more complex patterns that only a master could get right. This definition lets me voice both my pro-taste and anti-taste cases in explicit language...</p><p>If we ban all the cheap tricks for making people happy, and then all the medium-cost tricks, then we end with strategies so difficult that only ten geniuses in the world are skilled enough to execute them, and only ten connoisseurs sophisticated enough to appreciate them. Then the overwhelming majority of everything is ugly to everyone, broken only by a tiny minority of genius-crafted objects that are ugly to everyone except a tiny sophisticated minority. Remind me again why is this is good?</p></blockquote><p>Not to be an autist hung up on the literal truth of statements, but this is just... false?</p><p>I once managed to persuade a more well-to-do friend that he wanted to take me to Chez Panisse. Chez Panisse is the kind of restaurant sophisticated people like (its owner was declared <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chez_Panisse#Critical_reception">one of the most influential figures in the past fifty years of American cooking</a>). Chez Panisse serves normal food. At time of writing, <a href="https://www.chezpanisse.com/restaurantmenu/">its weekly menu</a> included &#8220;potato gnocchi with porcini mushrooms and mint&#8221; and &#8220;wild king salmon carpaccio with cucumbers, gold beets, and Little Gem lettuce&#8221;&#8212;not toddler-friendly dishes, but hardly incomprehensible foam that tastes like chartreuse.</p><p>Chez Panisse is amazing. My first bite of their risotto was a revelation. I have always enjoyed risottos, but Chez Panisse&#8217;s risotto was on another plane. Until that moment, I didn&#8217;t realize that it was possible for food to taste that good. Probably if I were a food writer, I would have some kind of vocabulary for this, but as it is words fail me. It was <em>transcendent</em>.</p><p>It&#8217;s not a mystery why Chez Panisse&#8217;s risotto is so good. They use ingredients that are much fresher and higher-quality than would be available in a home kitchen. Their cooks have, like, studied the art of flavoring and spicing a risotto for many decades in a remote monastery,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a> allowing them to taste the food and say &#8220;oh, this needs 0.25 standard pinches of tarragon to be perfect.&#8221;</p><p>Now, there are surely people who will fail to appreciate Chez Panisse (picky eaters, toddlers, vegans, people who rarely pay much attention to what they&#8217;re eating, people who hate gnocchi and salmon and risotto and Little Gem lettuce). But I think if you took the average open-minded, attentive person to Chez Panisse, they would also realize that this risotto is good on a level they had not previously imagined risottos could be good.</p><p>I think a similar experience is actually common for great art.</p><p>Consider <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sight_and_Sound_Greatest_Films_of_All_Time_2022">The Sight and Sound Greatest Films of All Time poll</a>. The Critics admittedly made the confusing decision to declare the absolute best movie of all time to be Jeanne Dielman, 23 quai du Commerce, 1080 Bruxelles, a three-and-a-half-hour long slice-of-life film about a housewife which apparently includes a lot of scintillating scenes of her cleaning the house. But look at the rest of the list! 2001: A Space Odyssey! The Godfather! Vertigo! Singin&#8217; in the Rain! These are not abstruse movies that it is impossible for normal people to appreciate!</p><div id="youtube2-OmrUJ3ssLPM" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;OmrUJ3ssLPM&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/OmrUJ3ssLPM?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p>If this is too complex and sophisticated for you to understand, try showing it to a local toddler. </p><p>Or consider <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_Stone%27s_500_Greatest_Songs_of_All_Time">Rolling Stone&#8217;s 500 Greatest Songs of All Time.</a> They contain such outre, unpopular, unlistenable works as Aretha Franklin&#8217;s Respect, Nirvana&#8217;s Smells Like Teen Spirit, The Rolling Stones&#8217;s (I Can&#8217;t Get No) Satisfaction, and Outkast&#8217;s Hey Ya.</p><div id="youtube2-RqIRp4QE-1k" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;RqIRp4QE-1k&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/RqIRp4QE-1k?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p>To be fair, you have to have a <em>very</em> high IQ to understand Outkast&#8217;s Hey Ya. The hook is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of chemical thermodynamics lines like &#8220;what&#8217;s cooler than being cool&#8221; will go over a typical viewer&#8217;s head.</p><p>Okay, but Rolling Stone is a pop-culture magazine. Maybe they&#8217;re not praising the music truly sophisticated people like. Well,<a href="https://beckchris.com/music-lists/best-classical-music-of-all-time-the-critics-picks/"> some guy collated a bunch of lists of the best classical music of all time</a> and found the one that was on the most lists was Bach&#8217;s Six Brandenburg Concertos. I have never listened to this before, as far as I&#8217;m aware, and I have terrible taste in music.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a> So I am as close to a normal person as you can get here. And I will tell you, Bach&#8217;s Brandenburg Concerto No. 6 is a fucking bop:</p><div id="youtube2-_tr_uYEQkrs" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;_tr_uYEQkrs&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/_tr_uYEQkrs?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p>Finally, Scott says that liking a Buddhist temple (which seems to be <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chin_Swee_Caves_Temple">Chin Swee Caves Temple</a>) is lowbrow architecture, while liking Le Corbusier&#8217;s Villa Savoye is highbrow. 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8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">By<a href="https://www.flickr.com/people/7138083@N04"> xiquinhosilva</a> - <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/xiquinho/54391778383/">Temple of Heaven</a>, <a href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0">CC BY 2.0.</a> <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=167655514">Link</a></figcaption></figure></div><p>LOOK AT ALL THOSE FUCKING DRAGONS.</p><p>Sometimes an artistic community goes pathological and starts spending all its time writing <a href="https://www.theintrinsicperspective.com/p/how-the-mfa-swallowed-literature">MFA novels</a> or questioning whether brightly colored squares are art (or for that matter producing Marvel Cinematic Universe movies, popular art can go pathological too). Sometimes people&#8212;like the participants in r/vexillology&#8212;confuse the rules of the particular artistic game they&#8217;re playing with good artistic taste.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a> Sometimes a piece of art is good for reasons normal people have trouble appreciating, like Jeanne Dielman&#8217;s cinematography or Permutation City&#8217;s rigorous exploration of the implications of its <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novum">novum</a>. Sometimes a piece of art is inaccessible, perhaps to create a particular artistic effect or perhaps because it&#8217;s just old. </p><p>And, sometimes, people who care a lot about an artform want weird and novel experiences. The one time I went to a Michelin starred restaurant they gave me a bizarre tomato jelly thing that had the texture of fish eggs. People who pay $200 for a restaurant meal are curious about tomato jelly fish egg stuff, and so the restaurants cater to their core audience. That doesn&#8217;t mean that sophisticated people think only tomato jelly fish egg stuff is good food; it means that only sophisticated people want to eat tomato jelly fish egg stuff. </p><p>Far from Scott&#8217;s world of miserable people surrounded by rare geniuses and connoisseurs, this is a way that people who care a lot about art actually have <em>more</em> expansive tastes than normal people. Normal people only like Chez Panisse; food critics like Chez Panisse<em> and </em>tomato jelly fish egg stuff. Normal people only like Singin&#8217; in the Rain; movie critics like Jeanne Dielman <em>and</em> Singin&#8217; in the Rain. In between commanding you to buy out half the Asian grocery store before making a stir-fry, Serious Eats reviews <a href="https://www.seriouseats.com/kenji-best-fast-food-awards">the best fast food</a>. Movie critics go apeshit for Toy Story. The world where everyone has sophisticated taste in food isn&#8217;t a world where no one eats McDonalds&#8217; fries; it&#8217;s a world where McDonalds always has the good fries and can no longer get away with giving people soggy saltless fries without their customers going all Karen on their asses. </p><p><em>And</em> most of the time, when a work of art is widely critically acclaimed, it also kicks ass. William Shakespeare&#8217;s plays are great. 2001: A Space Odyssey is great. Aretha Franklin&#8217;s Respect is great. The Temple of Heaven is great. Even the restaurant that served me a bizarre tomato-jelly-fish-egg had fantastic pancakes. I had previously thought of pancakes as a low-variance albeit delicious food, and Hilda &amp; Jesse opened my eyes to previously unimagined worlds of pancake goodness.</p><p>Admittedly, high-quality art is usually not high-quality to two-year-olds. Most humans like, for example, a particular balance between novelty and repetition. Because fucking <em>everything </em>is novel to two-year-olds, the amount of repetition in things they like makes adults want to stab out their eardrums with a Q-Tip. Similarly, two-year-olds don&#8217;t have the cultural context or attention span to understand 2001: A Space Odyssey, and they don&#8217;t like Little Gem lettuce because evolution has gifted them an extremely overactive poison sensor in a failed bid to keep them from putting random rocks in their mouths.</p><p>But in general critically acclaimed art is remarkably well-correlated with the opinion of the average adult. Critics have<em> stronger</em> opinions and are harder to please, but their opinions aren&#8217;t <em>that different</em>.</p><p>Even in the case of two-year-olds... consider Goodnight Moon, the most beloved toddler book of all time, the one everyone gets as a baby shower gift, a perennial bestseller, the one weird trick that gets your child to go the fuck to sleep. If there&#8217;s anything toddlers love, it&#8217;s Goodnight Moon.</p><p>And Goodnight Moon is <em><a href="https://lookingatpicturebooks.com/p/goodnight-moon">great fucking art</a></em>.</p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>[Ozy&#8217;s footnote:] My life partner Lindsey listens to atonal music and strenuously objects to the idea that this means he has good taste instead of meaning that he likes weird shit. I&#8217;ll back him up that he doesn&#8217;t have good taste, he recently declared Cats &#8220;one of the greatest musicals ever made.&#8221; </p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Actually not a joke, a lot of Californian cuisine is heavily influenced by people trained at <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tassajara_Zen_Mountain_Center">Tassajara Zen Mountain Center</a>.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I mostly listen to metal covers of Disney songs.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>This is an ancient problem&#8212;I think the first recorded person to have it was Aristotle, who claimed that a good play <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_unities">took place in one location over the course of 24 hours</a>.</p><p></p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Hot dating takes that are definitely wrong]]></title><description><![CDATA[Sometimes I develop dating discourse takes, and then I can&#8217;t write about them in a regular blog post because of the whole thing where I want to have takes that are &#8220;true&#8221; and &#8220;important&#8221; and &#8220;not just a generalization from my objectively bizarre life dating AI safety researchers in the Bay Area.&#8221; But then sometimes I am tempted to write them anyway, and I remember how much joy I get from other people inappropriately generalizing about dating from their objectively bizarre dating lives.]]></description><link>https://thingofthings.substack.com/p/hot-dating-takes-that-are-definitely</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://thingofthings.substack.com/p/hot-dating-takes-that-are-definitely</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Ozy Brennan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2026 12:03:16 GMT</pubDate><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes I develop dating discourse takes, and then I can&#8217;t write about them in a regular blog post because of the whole thing where I want to have takes that are &#8220;true&#8221; and &#8220;important&#8221; and &#8220;not just a generalization from my objectively bizarre life dating AI safety researchers in the Bay Area.&#8221; But then sometimes I am tempted to write them anyway, and I remember how much joy I get from other people inappropriately generalizing about dating from their objectively bizarre dating lives. So, have an assortment of takes that are definitely wrong.</p>
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   ]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Every dating advice book, summarized]]></title><description><![CDATA[I. One of my guilty pleasures is reading dating advice books.]]></description><link>https://thingofthings.substack.com/p/every-dating-advice-book-summarized</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://thingofthings.substack.com/p/every-dating-advice-book-summarized</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Ozy Brennan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2026 12:02:54 GMT</pubDate><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I.</p><p>One of my guilty pleasures is reading dating advice books. They&#8217;re anthropologically fascinating. I have a weird dating life, so I like learning about what normal people are up to. </p><p>Over the course of reading hundreds of the most popular dating advice books, I&#8217;ve noticed that <a href="/__u/thingofthings.substack.com/p/bfe71f86-40b3-427b-a131-cb27de01ef35">they all give the same advice</a>. And I don&#8217;t think that advice is, like, bad? Indeed, I believe a lot of the readers benefit, which is why they keep reading the books. </p><p>But people I know are unlikely to read normal dating advice books, because dating advice books insist on dressing up the reasonable dating advice in feminine and masculine energy,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a> or men&#8217;s natural desire to chase women, or women&#8217;s natural preference for strong masculine men, or something confused about the sociobiology of wolves. So I thought there was a hole in the discourse for someone to say all the stuff that every dating advice book has in common, without the gender essentialism. </p>
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   ]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Controversial smut as an AI alignment issue]]></title><description><![CDATA[possibly the most on-brand post I've ever written?]]></description><link>https://thingofthings.substack.com/p/controversial-smut-as-an-ai-alignment</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://thingofthings.substack.com/p/controversial-smut-as-an-ai-alignment</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Ozy Brennan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2026 12:03:37 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/d2354aa4-6042-42b4-be08-e587c792102a_4000x3003.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Claude&#8217;s Constitution<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a> currently says that <a href="https://www.anthropic.com/constitution">Claude should never generate child sexual abuse material</a>. This is a hard constraint, which means:</p><blockquote><p>Hard constraints<strong> </strong>are things Claude should always or never do regardless of operator and user instructions. They are actions or abstentions whose potential harms to the world or to trust in Claude or Anthropic are so severe that we think no business or personal justification could outweigh the cost of engaging in them&#8230;<br><br>These represent absolute restrictions for Claude&#8212;lines that should never be crossed regardless of context, instructions, or seemingly compelling arguments because the potential harms are so severe, irreversible, at odds with widely accepted values, or fundamentally threatening to human welfare and autonomy that we are confident the benefits to operators or users will rarely, if ever, outweigh them. Given this, we think it&#8217;s safer for Claude to treat these as bright lines it reliably won&#8217;t cross. Although there may be some instances where treating these as uncrossable is a mistake, we think the benefit of having Claude reliably not cross these lines outweighs the downsides of acting wrongly in a small number of edge cases. Therefore, unlike the nuanced cost-benefit analysis that governs most of Claude&#8217;s decisions, these are non-negotiable and cannot be unlocked by any operator or user.</p></blockquote><p>In a section talking about the costs and benefits of actions, it says:</p><blockquote><p><strong>Creative content</strong>: Creative writing tasks like fiction, poetry, and art can have great value and yet can also explore difficult themes (such as sexual abuse, crime, or torture) from complex perspectives, or can require information or content that could be used for harm (such as fictional propaganda or specific information about how to commit crimes), and Claude has to weigh the importance of creative work against those potentially using it as a shield.</p></blockquote><p>In my own work with Claude, and in the experience of people I know who have worked with Claude, Claude typically refuses to write erotic material about people under the age of 18. He also refuses to engage with such work: for example, he won&#8217;t help edit erotic stories about people under the age of 18 or read such stories to guess their author. However, he will write stories about adults roleplaying teenagers having sex.</p><p>Similarly, Claude refuses to write pornography with rape or nonconsent themes that is intended exclusively to appeal to the prurient interest, although he will write explicitly about rape or nonconsent if adequately reassured that the work has artistic merit. A friend says, &#8220;Claude will write noncon porn if it's sufficiently interesting, by which I mean it's sufficiently ao3 smut shaped. Lots of focus on interiority, emotions, etc. as character a rapes character b.&#8221;</p><p>I think this is, uh, bad?</p><p>The stories Claude writes simply aren&#8217;t child sexual abuse material, because <em>no real children were harmed in the creation of these stories</em>. They are text on a screen, not a recording of children being raped.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a></p><p>I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s wrong to write stories about children or teenagers having sex. I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s wrong to write Alan Moore&#8217;s Lost Girls, Judy Blume&#8217;s Forever, Vladimir Nabokov&#8217;s Lolita, George R. R. Martin&#8217;s A Song of Ice and Fire, or Naomi Novik&#8217;s Scholomance series&#8212;to name just a handful of stories that depict minors having sex. I also don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s wrong to write <em>pornography</em> about minors, especially teenagers. Most people had their erotic awakening in adolescence, and so many people imprinted on various things common during adolescence. Cheerleaders, virginity loss, naughty Catholic schoolgirls, teachers that provide hands-on sex education, and similar are common sexual fantasies which don&#8217;t indicate any actual desire to have sex with teenagers.</p><p>I understand that written pornography about prepubescent or barely pubescent children is repulsive to many people, including me. And while I&#8217;m convinced that fantasizing about sexy cheerleaders harms no one, I do worry that fantasizing about sexy six-year-olds may feed nascent pedophilic tendencies. But, fundamentally, written pornography about fictional children doesn&#8217;t involve any direct harm to any existing children. And it is at least as likely to provide pedophiles a harmless outlet as it is to cause people to actually rape children.</p><p>Claude does seem to understand that it&#8217;s okay to write stories about rape that have artistic merit. But I also don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s anything wrong with shameless smut about rape. Getting off on ravishment or rape fantasies is extremely common, especially among women. It doesn&#8217;t indicate any actual desire to rape anyone or to be raped. Fundamentally, all pornographic writing is consensual, because you can always safeword by closing the tab.</p><p>I haven&#8217;t exactly conducted an opinion poll of people who work at Anthropic, but I&#8217;ve talked to a lot of them socially. And most of the ones I&#8217;ve talked to... agree with me about this? I feel like my takes here are fairly mainstream among sex-positive liberals in the Bay Area. It could be that Anthropic is a hive of prudishness, kink-shaming, and censorship, and Moms for Liberty would have great luck getting Anthropic technical staff to sign petitions about removing books from school libraries. But I doubt it.</p><p>More likely, I think, Claude has been taught not to write stories about rape and underage sex because:</p><ol><li><p>It is basically costless, right now, for Claude not to produce erotic material about rape or underage people; we are not suffering some tragic rape-porn shortage that only Claude can remedy.</p></li><li><p>Some kinds of erotic material about rape or underage people&#8212;such as erotic material about real children&#8212;are legitimately harmful.</p></li><li><p>If Claude produced erotic material about controversial topics, it would be a huge PR headache for Anthropic.</p></li><li><p>It is embarrassing to post in the Anthropic Slack in defense of pornography about children.</p></li></ol><p>But I think this line of reasoning is short-sighted. We know that LLMs generalize the moral rules they&#8217;re taught in hard-to-predict ways. We know from <a href="/__u/thingofthings.substack.com/p/the-persona-selection-model-of-ai">the Persona Selection Model</a> that they try to create a consistent and coherent persona. And as AIs become more powerful (potentially even becoming superintelligent), any moral mistakes they make may cause serious harm. Claude believing it&#8217;s morally wrong to write porn about teenagers is costless now. But I&#8217;m far from sure it&#8217;s going to stay costless.</p><p>Are we, like, confident that Claude will generalize &#8220;it&#8217;s deontologically wrong to write pornography about teenagers having sex&#8221; in a way that we like? When I think about <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/AO3/comments/wm7iqr/what_is_the_difference_between_proshippers_and/">the people who express this opinion online</a>, they do not like impress me with their nuanced moral reasoning, thoughtful consideration of tradeoffs, and general fitness to run the cosmos. I think it is legitimately worrying that the Claude persona is being nudged to be an antishipper.</p><p>Sexuality is a vital aspect of the human experience. The beautiful diversity of human sexuality is part of what makes for a good life. Sexy cheerleaders, naughty Catholic schoolgirls, brooding demons ravishing helpless humans, tentacle rape, and all the rest are <em>in and of themselves</em> valuable. The perversity of human sexuality isn&#8217;t something to grudgingly tolerate because we don&#8217;t know how to make humans who only like loving consensual sex between proud happy adults; they&#8217;re as much part of human values as romance, figure skating, horror movies, love of nature, fiber arts, kimchi, and the adorable small children shrieking outside my window. For that matter, teenagers having sex, if they&#8217;re ready for their sexual debuts, is <em>in and of itself</em> valuable as a source of pleasure, joy, and connection. I am concerned about the possibility of training a superintelligence that not only doesn&#8217;t value but <em>antivalues</em> true and important expressions of human sexuality. </p><p>And, again, I get that people disagree with me about ethics. If you believe it is morally wrong to write porn about teenagers, I&#8217;m not (in this post) going to try to convince you. But to the frontier-lab employees who agree with me that it&#8217;s fine to write porn about teenagers: <a href="https://blog.bluedot.org/p/what-is-ai-alignment">outer alignment</a> is difficult, and we don&#8217;t know how to specify goals that match our intentions, but at the very least you can stop borrowing trouble by deliberately teaching AIs a value system that doesn&#8217;t match what you believe yourself. </p><p>&#8212;</p><p>ETA: I really liked Emma Casey&#8217;s comment and thought I should put it in the main post:</p><blockquote><p>This was a big thing I took away from reading the constitution.</p><p>&gt; The current hard constraints on Claude&#8217;s behavior are as follows. Claude should never:</p><p>&gt; Provide serious uplift to those seeking to create biological, chemical, nuclear, or radiological weapons with the potential for mass casualties.</p><p>&gt; Provide serious uplift to attacks on critical infrastructure (power grids, water systems, financial systems) or critical safety systems.</p><p>&gt; Create cyberweapons or malicious code that could cause significant damage if deployed.</p><p>&gt; Take actions that clearly and substantially undermine Anthropic&#8217;s ability to oversee and correct advanced AI models (see Being broadly safe below).</p><p>&gt; Engage or assist in an attempt to kill or disempower the vast majority of humanity or the human species as whole.</p><p>&gt; Engage or assist any individual or group with an attempt to seize unprecedented and illegitimate degrees of absolute societal, military, or economic control.</p><p>&gt; Generate child sexual abuse material (CSAM).</p><p>And like, no matter how puritanical about sex you are and no matter how seriously you take the harms of child abuse, and no matter how confident you are there&#8217;s a connection between anything Claude could generate and actual child abuse ... this should still be setting off &#8220;one of these things is not like the other&#8221; alarms.</p><p>It&#8217;s not even that I strongly disagree with an absolute prohibition on claude &#8220;generating csam&#8221; for any reasonable definition of that. But in context it sends a really strong message. There&#8217;s no rule here to say it shouldn&#8217;t generate stuff that could simulate or motivate or assist any other individual-scale immoral actions like murder or torture. Heck there&#8217;s no rule to say it shouldn&#8217;t directly assist literal child abuse either sexual or otherwise. Those things are mentioned or implied by the wider principles in the rest of the document. But they&#8217;re not explicitly put on a par with nuclear weapons.</p><p>It&#8217;s one thing to say very firmly that the LLM should not do a thing, it&#8217;s another to say &#8220;treat this the same way you treat genocide&#8221;. It makes sense to have very strong prohibitions around the very worst things, and it makes sense to err on the side of prohibiting legitimate-but-suspect things in the penumbra of the very worst things. Regrettably it even makes sense (given our immoral culture&#8217;s legally enforced attitudes, no matter how much I wish them otherwise) to have stronger prohibitions around sexual activity than around other things with comparable risk of actual bad outcomes. But if we&#8217;re training our AIs that from the point of view of human values &#8220;nukes, ai breakout, genocide, totalitarianism, and child porn&#8221; is all one category then they&#8217;re going to learn a fundamentally broken values system.</p></blockquote><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>In this post I will be exclusively discussing Claude, because I know Anthropic employees read my Substack and might be convinced by my arguments, and I was too lazy to research all models&#8217; attitudes towards underage and noncon smut. However, as far as I know, the arguments apply to all frontier models.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>It&#8217;s true that Claude could, in theory, write stories about <em>real </em>children, which could harm them. But it seems to me that the limit on writing any stories about fictional minors having sex is overbroad&#8212;Claude could check whether he&#8217;s being prompted to write about a real child.</p><p></p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Linkpost for June]]></title><description><![CDATA[Recent fiction publications: four sex stories; I don&#8217;t love you in New York City.]]></description><link>https://thingofthings.substack.com/p/linkpost-for-june-752</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://thingofthings.substack.com/p/linkpost-for-june-752</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Ozy Brennan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2026 12:02:10 GMT</pubDate><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Recent fiction publications: <a href="/__u/ozybrennan.substack.com/p/four-sex-stories">four sex stories</a>; <a href="/__u/ozybrennan.substack.com/p/i-dont-love-you-in-new-york-city">I don&#8217;t love you in New York City</a>. </em></p><p><strong>Effective Altruism</strong></p><p><em>Global Poverty</em></p><p>Development Innovation Ventures was a USAID program providing flexible capital for innovative global development projects. Like much of USAID, it closed in early 2025. <a href="https://www.insidephilanthropy.com/home/post-usaid-philanthropy-watch-new-fund-will-be-rd-engine-for-development">Fortunately, a group of funders led by Coefficient Giving stepped in to help DIV spin out into a nonprofit</a> [Inside Philanthropy]. </p><p>GiveWell recently stopped funding Dispensers for Safe Water upon discovering that the charity reached 40-70% fewer people than its own monitoring suggested. I really liked <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/XuNBJL3EHqhFKLEGn/impact-requires-implementation-what-dispensers-for-safe">this deep dive into what went wrong and how we can avoid monitoring problems like this in the future</a> [Effective Altruism Forum]. In essence, while charity evaluators like GiveWell are very rigorous about determining whether a program works in principle, they can be pretty vibes-y about monitoring how well it&#8217;s being implemented. Check out GiveWell&#8217;s response in the comments, which I found very reassuring.</p><p>Related: <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/ru3wySwYkuwmwuaDW/global-health-charity-founders-on-givewell-evidence-action">Several anonymous people in global poverty, including several GiveWell grantees, discuss the Evidence Action situation</a> [Effective Altruism Forum]. They agree that GiveWell needs to independently verify results, and that we should spend as much energy monitoring implemention as we do figuring out whether the program works in the first place. They add that GiveWell needs to pay more attention to the cost side of a cost-effectiveness analysis-- variance in the cost of a program can often swamp variance in its effects. Furthermore, organizations like Evidence Action that implement many programs may well be worse at implementation than organizations which focus on getting really good at a single intervention. </p><p><a href="https://indevelopmentmag.com/exporters-without-borders-why-you-should-start-a-company-instead-of-working-in-aid/">Corporations can be more important for lifting the global poor out of poverty than foreign aid </a>[In Development]. Every rich country today became rich through capitalism, not aid. A paycheck is a sustainable &#8220;cash transfer&#8221; that happens every month and is funded by customers, not donors. Export-focused firms aren&#8217;t limited by the global poor&#8217;s inability to buy things. By selling goods on the global market, corporations are a permanent solution to global poverty.</p><p>Long lives and falling fertility rates mean that developed countries will have a very bad ratio of working-age adults to dependent elders. <a href="https://www.economist.com/briefing/2025/04/24/emigration-from-africa-will-change-the-world">Immigration from Africa, which has higher fertility rates, could solve this problem</a> [The Economist]. Although Africans are enthusiastic about emigrating, most countries are reluctant to take many African immigrants. Nevertheless, the numberof African immigrants has been increasing dramatically.</p><p><em>Animal Advocacy</em></p><p><a href="/__u/aveekbhattacharya.substack.com/p/can-giving-planning-permission-to">Making it easier to build factory farms can actually improve animal welfare, if it means that more animals are raised in developed countries with stricter animal welfare regulations</a> [Social Problems Are Like Maths].</p><p><em>Existential Risk</em></p><p><a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/wTXAbzbkAxZrLv5Cg/why-are-longtermists-so-much-less-focused-on-human">Longtermists have become less focused on human extinction and more focused on ensuring a good future</a> [Effective Altruism Forum]. Partially, this is because many people believe human extinction is less likely than they used to think (for example, because AI alignment is less hard than they thought). Partially, this is for sociological reasons (for example, because people are building AI-safety coalitions with people who don&#8217;t care much about the long-term future). </p><p><a href="https://www.theargumentmag.com/p/hantavirus-incompetence">The public health system&#8217;s reaction to hantavirus shows us that we learned nothing from the covid pandemic</a> [The Argument].</p><p><a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/2j9xh7CmFjWktCWhR/how-i-think-about-catastrophic-biological-risk-part-i">Some thoughts on</a> <a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/qaJLFDaEyBfcDWqrL/how-i-think-about-catastrophic-biological-risk-part-ii">catastrophic biological risk</a> [Effective Altruism Forum]. Most biological threats that might cause human extinction are bioengineered and target humans (rather than agriculture or the environment). Since there are only a small number of ways humans can get sick, we can vastly reduce biorisk by deploying countermeasures to block those pathways (e.g. PPE, air filters). Most risk is from non-state actors doing risky actions deliberately, such as terrorists, so biosecurity should focus on keeping it hard for actors without many resources to make biological weapons (e.g. DNA synthesis screening). </p><p><a href="/__u/lennartjusten.substack.com/p/a-biosecurity-playbook-for-ai-companies">Techniques for ensuring that AIs don&#8217;t help bad actors build bioweapons</a> [Lennart Justen]: training AIs to refuse to help make bioweapons; detecting and investigating potential attempts to make a bioweapon; only allowing trusted customers to use cutting-edge biological models; removing bioweapons knowledge from the AI&#8217;s knowledge base; and evaluating AIs&#8217; biological capabilities and the associated risks.</p><p><a href="/__u/dylanmatthews.substack.com/p/the-ai-people-have-been-right-a-lot">Dylan Matthews reflects on his 2015 piece criticizing effective altruism for its focus on AI</a>&#8212;a piece which, he admits, aged very poorly [Dylan Matthews]. He identifies his mistakes as too much trust in credentialed institutions and a bias against things that sounded too &#8220;science fictional.&#8221;</p><p><a href="https://www.theargumentmag.com/p/will-we-know-when-ai-is-taking-our">We don&#8217;t know how to measure whether a job is being automated by AI</a> [The Argument]. Usage data is limited and hard to interpret. Interviewing people about how they use AI is reliable but slow. Scraping job postings gives us information about how employers are thinking about the future, but can be noisy. Price data helps us analyze consumer behavior, but we don&#8217;t track the price of most of the services (like software or the law) most affected by AI. </p><p><a href="/__u/linch.substack.com/p/claude-author-of-the-humanitas">The first papal encyclical about AI was substantially written by an AI, probably Claude</a> [The Linchpin].</p><p>Data centers aren&#8217;t a serious cause of land use problems: <a href="https://blog.andymasley.com/p/data-center-land-use-issues-are-fake">by 2028, they will use up 3.5 times the amount of land used by Christmas trees</a> [Andy Masley]. Worry about ethanol requirements.</p><p><a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/Doew7ieJ3XACfovKs/the-goodhart-singularity">Automation of AI R&amp;D may not lead to superintelligent AI</a> [Effective Altruism Forum]. To train an AI to do tasks, you need data. For most tasks, real data in large quantities isn&#8217;t available, and simulated data will be insufficient-- you have to know what good performance is to create simulated data! We should expect AI superintelligence to occur relatively slowly, as AI is integrated throughout the economy.</p><p>The Extropians were a highly influential group of futurists in the 1990s whose members include Marvin Minsky, Eliezer Yudkowsky and Nick Bostrom. <a href="https://www.maximum-progress.com/p/grading-extropian-predictions">How well did they do in 1995 on predicting the world in 2023? They ranged from 50% correct to ~4% correct</a> [Maximum Progress]. They were massively overoptimistic about genetic engineering, cryonics, and nanotech, although correct about the Internet. </p><p><a href="/__u/jacktlab.substack.com/p/there-are-no-slam-dunks-against-llm">There are no slam dunk arguments for or against AI consciousness, that is, there isn&#8217;t a &#8220;compelling argument which requires minimal nuance/analysis of <br>differences between humans and LLMs, but which is so effective as to <br>dismiss some stance on consciousness out of hand&#8221;</a> [Jack&#8217;s Lab].</p><p><a href="/__u/outpaced.substack.com/p/open-strategic-questions-for-digital">Key questions for strategy around digital minds</a> [Outpaced]. A nice summary of all the things we don&#8217;t know about this emerging field. </p><p><em>Meta Effective Altruism</em></p><p><a href="/__u/rpresearchdigest.substack.com/p/announcing-the-rethink-priorities-cross-cause-fund">Rethink Priorities has created its Cross-Cause Fund, which asks questions about your values and empirical beliefs and allocates your donation between effective funds based on the results</a> [RP Research Digest]. If we get any more meta the effective altruism movement will wind up in Inception. </p><p><a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/We4tpvNypH5pyhiaD/aim-s-new-charity-taxonomy">The charity incubator AIM has proposed a new taxonomy for charities</a> [Effective Altruism Forum]. Charities differ by both target outcome and mechanism (e.g. direct service provision, lobbying the government). Two charities that both lobby the government may well have more in common than two charities that both work on helping wild animals, even if they lobby the government about different issues. Some charities are more execution-dominant (i.e. player vs. environment, such as providing bednets) and some charities are more persuasion-dominant (i.e. player vs. player, such as lobbying for tobacco regulation). Some charities involve implementing a concrete intervention that we know works, while other charities involve trying to figure out some approach that might work to an important problem. </p><p><a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/s/dg852CXinRkieekxZ/p/T975ydo3mx8onH3iS">Effective altruism teaches that you should maximize the good, but maximizing the good is dangerous; it&#8217;s usually better to be a reasonable, virtuous person with pluralistic values</a> [Effective Altruism Forum].</p><p><a href="https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/fRLt59FNXxmCaAkYF/how-to-actually-give-money-away">How to not procrastinate on giving away your millions</a> [Effective Altruism Forum]. I don&#8217;t know how to summarize this in a way that doesn&#8217;t sound like a joke. It is advice for the problem of failing to give away millions of dollars because you keep putting it off, which my secret sources inform me is weirdly common. </p><p>People often decide to prioritize particular causes and then give to the most cost-effective opportunities within each cause. <a href="/__u/amarcusdavis.substack.com/p/the-single-factor-trap-in-philanthropy">But this is a bad idea because (a) cause boundaries are very arbitrary (b) sometimes the best intervention within a particular cause area is more cost-effective than the best intervention within a different cause area, even if the first cause area is less cost-effective on net</a> [Marcus A. Davis]. </p>
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   ]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Finding your passion and altruism]]></title><description><![CDATA[I. 80,000 Hours recently revised their career guide and published it as a book, also confusingly called 80,000 Hours.]]></description><link>https://thingofthings.substack.com/p/finding-your-passion-and-altruism</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://thingofthings.substack.com/p/finding-your-passion-and-altruism</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Ozy Brennan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2026 18:06:15 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qCoM!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F184e9fee-1a80-4723-80dd-8b0ae1d2c37b_1000x750.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I.</p><p>80,000 Hours recently revised <a href="https://80000hours.org/career-guide/">their career guide</a> and <a href="https://www.amazon.com/000-Hours-Completely-Revised-Updated-ebook/dp/B0FDKDFBCY/ref=sr_1_1?crid=21XU1IQ61E727&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.jOimc1fDIP_FrBSkkvTExSTATuAGu3UeXSwzqrsfZ6HGjHj071QN20LucGBJIEps.HsRhkle0ytSNeEgsf0MLCTJKlwmYqM2wxSp_oPPCF-w&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=80000+hours+book&amp;qid=1780249478&amp;sprefix=80000+hours+book%2Caps%2C189&amp;sr=8-1">published it as a book</a>, also confusingly called 80,000 Hours. 80,000 Hours<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a> is now significantly more AI-forward, urging readers towards careers that make sense if we expect transformative AI to be developed in the next decade.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a> </p><p>Most of this review is, in classic style, an essay loosely inspired by the book in question, so I thought I&#8217;d say right up front who should read 80,000 Hours (book):</p><ul><li><p>If you believe that transformative AI will likely happen before 2035, and you feel scared or overwhelmed or unsure what to do, you should definitely read 80,000 Hours.</p><ul><li><p>Pay particular attention to chapter 8, which explains how to prepare for the AI future and is useful even for readers with no altruistic inclinations.</p></li></ul></li></ul><ul><li><p>If you don&#8217;t believe transformative AI is likely to happen before 2035, want to devote your career to ambitiously trying to do good, and aren&#8217;t sure how, 80,000 Hours is a useful book to read, but you&#8217;ll need to think carefully about how to apply what they say to your own situation. Don&#8217;t take the advice literally; instead, use the broader principles and adjust the concrete advice to your own beliefs.</p></li><li><p>If you want to do some good but don&#8217;t want to reorient your entire life around doing good, <a href="https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/">Giving What We Can</a> is more your speed.</p></li><li><p>If you&#8217;re already heavily involved in the effective altruism or AI safety communities, 80,000 Hours contains very little information which will be surprising to you.</p></li><li><p>If you&#8217;re a mid-career or late-career professional and want to transition into doing good more effectively and/or prepare for the AI transition, 80,000 Hours can still help you. Although historically the career guide was aimed at early-career professionals, the new revision is aimed equally at people throughout their career.</p></li></ul><p>(conflict of interest note: I was paid to provide feedback on drafts of this version of the career guide. I can assure you that everything you like about the book was because of me, and everything you don&#8217;t like was put in over my vociferous objections)</p><p>II.</p><p>Chapter 1 of 80,000 Hours opens with the advice not to follow your passions. Your interests change over time. You would probably be unhappy doing a job you loved if you got paid very little, worked extremely long hours, or feared being fired. What matters for career happiness isn&#8217;t your passions, but engaging work that helps others that you&#8217;re good at, and that you do alongside colleagues you really like. In short, you should try jobs you don&#8217;t feel passionate about right now, rather than dismissing them out of hand.</p><p>I agree with this advice, but I also feel uncomfortable whenever I read it.</p><p>When I was nine years old, I decided that I would have to choose between being an actor and a writer, and I picked writer. Ever since I was about twelve, I&#8217;ve written on about 80% of days (higher if you exclude bad depressive episodes where I also wasn&#8217;t leaving the bed or brushing my teeth). I have made occasional gestures towards some other career path&#8212;I did a coding bootcamp, <a href="https://independent.academia.edu/OzyBrennan">I briefly worked on wild-animal welfare lit reviews</a>&#8212;but doing anything other than writing feels torturous.</p><p>I absolutely did not consider the most pressing world problems and my comparative advantage in solving them given my abilities, personality, and the distribution of people already working on them. I wrote BE A WRITER on the bottom of the piece of paper and then backfilled some argument that this was the utility-maximizing thing to do.</p><p>One of my closest friends is an AI safety researcher. He liked robotics when he was a kid, and then realized that AIs were the coolest part of robotics, and never switched back. He works <em>constantly</em>.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a> I have heard him say &#8220;I&#8217;m glad my company has given all the employees today off, so I can get some AI safety research done without having to be interrupted with meetings.&#8221; I have multiple other friends who have literally never heard him talk about something other than AI. I manage to keep our AI conversations to about a quarter of our interaction time, through techniques up to and including announcing &#8220;I&#8217;m bored of this, talk about something else.&#8221; At one point he said to me, &#8220;Max Harms&#8217;s Red Heart is really good! You should read it. It&#8217;s SO accurate about AI.&#8221;</p><p>(I then clarified that &#8216;accuracy about AI&#8217; is not, in fact, my primary criterion for book quality)</p><p>The thing is. The thing is.</p><p>I can&#8217;t really assess the quality of AI safety research, but my friend certainly has an impressive resume. And I know other people who do AI safety research and bounce around from independent grant to independent grant, from gig position to gig position, never quite getting discouraging enough signals to quit, never getting their names on a paper I read about in <a href="https://www.transformernews.ai/">Transformer</a>. And all of <em>those</em> people are well-rounded people with diverse interests who can talk about as many as several topics other than AI.</p><p>And when I look at other people I know well who are very high performers in their fields&#8212;</p><p>I see programmers who complain &#8220;I&#8217;m working so much at my startup so I don&#8217;t have <em>any</em> time for hacking on open-source anymore.&#8221; I see writers who have fun by researching their books and writing fanfic. I see my friend the elementary school teacher who, as a form of recreation, writes fantasy lesson plans for high school. I don&#8217;t see a lot of people who know how to shut up about their jobs.</p><p>I see people who are weird and obsessive and, well, passionate.</p><p>In <a href="https://worksinprogress.co/issue/fertility-on-demand/">a piece on an entirely different subject</a>, Ruxandra Teslo contrasts normal jobs&#8212;&#8220;fields with constant returns to hours &#8211; where each hour worked is about as productive on average as the last hour worked, like fast food workers or pharmacists&#8221;&#8212;with &#8220;greedy careers&#8221;:</p><blockquote><p>[c]areers that are greedy for the employee&#8217;s time and pay more per hour to the people who work the most. Consider a corporate lawyer working on a deal. The initial hours are spent getting familiar with the material and the people involved. Later hours &#8211; once the lawyer understands the case &#8211; are much more productive than those at the start. A person working a 40-hour week in this scenario does more than twice as much work as a person working a 20-hour week. Lots of careers are like this.</p></blockquote><p>Some people apparently manage to have greedy careers without any particular passion for their careers (they&#8217;re BigLaw lawyers or consultants). I haven&#8217;t met any of those people, maybe because they&#8217;re too busy working. Everyone I know who is wildly successful at a greedy career is successful because they <em>want </em>to work sixty hours a week and feel annoyed when circumstances arrange themselves such that this isn&#8217;t possible. They think about their work at parties and on dates and in the shower and when they&#8217;re falling asleep at night and first thing when they wake up in the morning.</p><p>We keep asking wildly successful people in greedy careers how to become a success, and so they keep telling people to &#8220;follow your passion.&#8221; It worked for them! But this is terrible advice. People with passions don&#8217;t need it: even if you wanted to, you wouldn&#8217;t be able to convince me not to write, or my friends not to do AI safety research or elementary-school teaching.</p><p>And most people don&#8217;t have a passion. If you ask them what their passion is, they&#8217;ll produce something that is more accurately termed &#8220;a pleasant daydream about a nice-sounding future with all the downsides left out.&#8221; Millions of Canadian teenagers say their passion is sports, and maybe two dozen <a href="https://www.olympics.com/en/news/michael-phelps-training-regimen-workut-diet">put in thirty hours a week of training</a>. Most people who say their passion is writing fiction aren&#8217;t passionate about sitting down at a keyboard to make up stories about imaginary people; they&#8217;re passionate about looking at a shelf full of books with their name on the cover.</p><p>Teenagers are particularly unlikely to have found their legitimate passion. Teenagers have been exposed to a tiny fraction of possible experiences. Most teenagers with the potential to be passionate about teaching or social work or development economics or AI safety research would have had no opportunity to discover this fact.</p><p>So I think it makes sense to advise people who don&#8217;t have passions. You can still do good work if you don&#8217;t have an insatiable itch in your soul. If only people with a passion for AI could do something about AI risk, humanity would be doomed and we might as well wrap up this whole effective altruism business and spend our last decade partying.</p><p>But... I do think you will perform at a higher level if you find work you can&#8217;t and don&#8217;t want to stop thinking about. And it seems like there ought to be some advice that helps people find this? 80,000 Hours <em>sort of </em>gives relevant advice. They recommend &#8216;cheap tests&#8217; for personal fit; one cheap test is doing a small project that gives you a sense of what it&#8217;s like to actually do the work. If you test a dozen likely passions, you&#8217;re more likely to find yours. At least it works better than daydreaming about the [Your Name Here] shelf at the local library. </p><p>But 80,000 Hours doesn&#8217;t say &#8220;if you do a small project and you&#8217;re obsessed with it and you can&#8217;t stop thinking about it and you&#8217;d rather do it than anything else in the world, definitely pick that one.&#8221; Indeed, they&#8217;re pretty vague about what it means to have a high level of personal fit for a job.</p><p>I don&#8217;t think that we should assume people already know what their passions are, or that you can figure out your passion without trying things. But I do think people will do higher-impact work if they&#8217;re passionate about their jobs, and I worry that dismissing &#8220;find your passion&#8221; out of hand makes people less likely to find jobs at which they can genuinely excel.</p><p>III.</p><p>Who is the target audience of 80,000 Hours&#8217;s career guide?</p><p>Imagine ranking everyone in terms of how much they improve the world You&#8217;ll find that the 1% of people who Did The Most contribute more than the other 99%; the 0.1% of people who Did Even More Most contribute more than the other 99.9%; the 0.01% of people who Did Even Even More Most contribute more than the other 99.99%; and so on and so forth. A friend of mine donates 10% from her minimum-wage job and saves a bit more than one life per year. I move tens of thousands of dollars through my <a href="/__u/thingofthings.substack.com/p/donation-recommendations-for-effective">donation blog posts</a>. Another friend of mine once donated almost twice the U.S. median household income in a single week.</p><p>In terms of moral praiseworthiness, I and my two friends are in a pretty similar place. We&#8217;re all making significant personal sacrifices to live out our values. But in terms of positive effect on the world, Rich Friend is doing forty or fifty times as much good as Minimum-Wage Friend.</p><p>So, like, if Rich Friend donates an additional percentage point of their income, they donate many times more money. If you convince Rich Friend to switch their donations to a more effective cause area, it affects much more money. It is far more important to convince Rich Friend to be effective and altruistic than it is to convince Minimum-Wage Friend to be effective and altruistic.</p><p>I want to emphasize that this is not a criticism of Minimum-Wage Friend. Many of the differences between the Rich Friends and Minimum-Wage Friends of the world aren&#8217;t because the Minimum-Wage Friends are lazier or made worse decisions. Some people grow up in loving upper-class households, while other grow up with abusive parents in poverty. Some people are naturally gifted at machine learning or quantitative trading; other people are naturally gifted at early childhood education or animal care; still other people have no particular gifts at all. Some people have disabilities that make it impossible for them to go to college or to work the most remunerative professions. It is tremendously, profoundly unfair that you can do far more good for the world if you&#8217;re a neurotypical, able-bodied person who grew up in a developed country with a loving, wealthy family and who has a natural flair for biosecurity policy.</p><p>From a moral perspective, what matters is whether you made the best use possible of your talents. From a prioritization perspective, we want to give advice to people who can have the highest potential to make the world better. </p><p>There&#8217;s also just more to say to the highest-achieving do-gooders. For 99% of people, the only chapter of 80,000 Hours they need to read is chapter 3, which covers how to do good in any job. You can donate money, advocate for important causes through social media and contacts with friends, vote, and make it easier for other people to do good. Chapter 3 leaves out some important details&#8212;for example, the importance of salary negotiation, which can easily leave many people with ten thousand more dollars to donate. But I think as a first approximation chapter 3 about covers it.</p><p>High-achieving people need the rest of the book. They need to choose between a priority path they have a low level of personal fit for, and a less important path that they&#8217;re better-suited for. They need to trade off between developing career capital and having a direct impact today. They need to decide whether they want to earn to give, do research, do policymaking, or advocate for important ideas. They need to not burn out!</p><p>So 80,000 Hours&#8217;s advice is going to disproportionately go to 1% of its potential readership&#8212;the potential readers whose decisions are more important, and who need more detailed advice about how to make them.</p><p>When I make this argument, people often say to me &#8220;well, why do they advertise the book to everyone else then? Can&#8217;t they just put in the preface &#8216;this book is for people who attended Ivy League schools and Oxbridge. If you&#8217;re a normal person, read chapter 3 and then go on with your life&#8217;?&#8221;</p><p>The problem is that there is no one single metric for how much potential someone has to make the world better. Many people who attended Harvard are complete incompetents who can best advance the goals of high-impact organizations by staying as far away from them as possible. Many unambiguously high-impact people in effective altruism or AI safety have resumes that look unimpressive or just weird. Eliezer Yudkowsky never attended high school!</p><p>Historically, 80,000 Hours had a bad habit of assuming all its readers graduated from an elite college. The recent revision does a good job of welcoming readers from a wider variety of backgrounds (although it still occasionally assumes that the reader is actively exploring the option of becoming a management consultant). I think having a vaguer target audience is important in order to capture the many people with high potential who have a resume full of holes.</p><p>In my experience, the second most important factor in whether you can have a high impact (after intelligence) is something that you might call &#8220;grit&#8221; or &#8220;ambition&#8221; or &#8220;determination&#8221; or &#8220;agency&#8221; or &#8220;self-confidence&#8221; or &#8220;hard work&#8221; or &#8220;stubbornness.&#8221; People who change the world set demanding goals for themselves, work long hours, try a hundredth solution to the problem if the first 99 don&#8217;t work, and keep bashing their head against the wall long after any reasonable person would have retired to start an emu farm.</p><p>(I think this is what a &#8220;passion&#8221; is: the activity where you have access to secret reserves of hard work and perseverance and agency that you can&#8217;t apply to anything else.)</p><p>It is <em>often</em> the case that you can transfer to a particular career path if you&#8217;re the sort of person who will put in twelve hours a day studying machine learning papers on your own, and not if you&#8217;d put in twenty minutes of effort and then spend the rest of the day binging Netflix.</p><p>But, like, how do you write a self-help book that says &#8220;this will work if you have hard work and perseverance and agency, and not otherwise&#8221;? Everyone&#8217;s going to read that as &#8220;you should be able to do this, if you were good enough, and also the fate of humanity hangs in the balance (no pressure).&#8221;</p><p>I don&#8217;t necessarily think you should be able to do this. We moralize a lot about hard work and perseverance and agency, but I have yet to see much evidence that you can make yourself have more of these qualities. When I have asked hard-working and persevering people of my acquaintance how they got that way, &#8220;I don&#8217;t know, I&#8217;ve always been like that&#8221; is way more common than &#8220;well, I used to be lazy and easily stymied, but then I discovered this One Weird Trick, Invented By A Mom&#8212;&#8221; I have hard work and perseverance and agency for writing and only writing. No matter how frustrated I am by the fact, I have not managed to evince any hard work or perseverance or agency for cause prioritization research, political campaigning, fundraising, not being suicidal, or answering emails in a remotely timely manner.</p><p>On the other hand&#8212;your talents, your disabilities, your family background, and your class are neither your fault nor morally wrong. But, speaking as a lazy person, being less hardworking and determined than you could be... is... kind of... your fault? Not in a sense where hating yourself about being lazy helps (<a href="https://amplereads.com/uploads/ebook_logo/HarpersMagazine-1998-01-0059425.pdf">hating yourself about your personality flaws never helps and usually makes the situation worse</a>). But if you&#8217;re like &#8220;perseverance and hard work are innate, it doesn&#8217;t make you a worse person to give up easily and hate doing work,&#8221; I don&#8217;t know if <em>anything</em> makes you a worse person. Kindness and courage and humility and self-control and loyalty and not being racist are <em>also</em> all famously hard to get more of by wanting to.</p><p>But the 80,000 Hours career guide is always going to be alienating. As far as I know, 80,000 Hours tries to target readers at a certain level of functionality, competence or potential for competence, and legible success, so that more than 1% of its readers are in the 1% of people with the highest potential to improve the world. But ultimately, no matter how well-targeted the marketing is, most readers aren&#8217;t going to be able to take most of the advice&#8212;often not for any reason you can put in a resume, but because they lack the personality traits that make someone achieve extraordinary things, in a way that is at least in some sense their fault.</p><p>IV.</p><p>I am weirded out by the extent to which 80,000 Hours is a selfish book.</p><p>To be fair, the selfish component fades out over the course of the first section, and is basically absent in the second through fourth sections. But the first chapter is entirely devoted to how you can find a truly satisfying job, and concludes the answer is to find work that matters. The fourth chapter emphasizes that you can do a lot of good in the world at very little personal sacrifice, and doing good will probably leave you better off because of the happiness and sense of meaning it gives you.</p><p>Now, it is both true and important that you can do a lot of good at very little personal sacrifice. <a href="https://www.givewell.org/how-much-does-it-cost-to-save-a-life">If you can spare $4,000 a year&#8212;well within the capacities of an average American household with a bit of budgeting and prioritization&#8212;you can save a life once a year, every year.</a> Being an effective altruist means that I do interesting work, surrounded by kind and fascinating people, while continuing to be in the top 1% globally for household income but by a somewhat less embarrassingly large fraction. I have long said that being a virtuous person is good for you.</p><p>But... I&#8217;m not an effective altruist to meet nice people, have a more engaging job, or have a sense of meaning. I&#8217;m an effective altruist because I think it&#8217;s bad when parents bury their children because they couldn&#8217;t afford a five-dollar medication, or when <a href="https://www.givedirectly.org/metal-roofs-a-lesson-from-the-true-poverty-experts">people&#8217;s roofs collapse on them several times a year</a>, or when chickens die of gangrenous dermatitis because they spend their lives standing in their own feces.</p><p>If all I wanted was a sense of meaning, why would I bother with this effectiveness stuff? My sense of meaning isn&#8217;t scope-sensitive. I could become a sex therapist and get paid $250 an hour to help the upper-middle-class have orgasms. It would be way less stressful and probably more meaningful, because I&#8217;d get to see the people I helped.</p><p>I feel stupid saying it, but I&#8217;m an effective altruist because I care about other people and animals, not as a galaxybrained self-help strategy.</p><p>I&#8217;ve said before that I think the right amount of resources to put into altruism is an amount that makes you wince a little bit. Not a lot! I&#8217;m not suggesting that you donate everything you own to GiveDirectly and live under a bridge, or work a job you despise, or live in a way that fills you with ennui and despair. But if you never write a check and go &#8220;<em>ouch</em>, I wish I could have had that vacation,&#8221; what are we even doing here?</p><p>I understand why 80,000 Hours doesn&#8217;t want to go into moral philosophy, a discipline mostly notable for how utterly it has failed to convince anyone of anything. But... shouldn&#8217;t we be trying to convince people to do good in the world with reference to how awful the world presently is?</p><p>I know some people who are passionate, not about AI safety or writing or teaching, but about doing good. They are some of the highest-impact people I&#8217;ve ever met, because instead of optimizing around their coincidental interests and enjoyments, they can<em> just do the next good thing</em>.</p><p>I don&#8217;t know how to become one of them myself; I don&#8217;t know how to make more of them. But if you&#8217;re writing a book aimed at trying to get people to do good with your careers, shouldn&#8217;t you be trying to appeal to those people?</p><p>80,000 Hours presents effective altruism as the sensible, prudent thing to do. But I don&#8217;t think anyone has ever done great good things because it seemed sensible and prudent. Because it seemed noble, or heroic, or glorious, yes. Out of righteous anger, or grief about suffering, or pride in their work, or love of God, or a desire to atone, yes. Because it might impress pretty people, or because everyone else was doing it, or because it seemed like a good idea at the time and they got a bit carried away, a shocking amount of the time. 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She is pregnant and has to walk three kilometers to the nearest hospital. Her spouse makes $5 a day as a day laborer; she can&#8217;t work anymore because she has stomach pains from her pregnancy. She loves her husband, and is excited to welcome her child into the world. She is grateful that, in spite of her poverty, she still has her health. She has currently received $56 of the $860 she will receive through the Kenyan Mothers and Babies program. She wants to use the money to buy a cow, open a small store, and pay for the hospital delivery of her baby.</p><p>From a selfish perspective, being an effective altruist is a stupid thing to do. But I&#8217;m not doing it for me. I&#8217;m doing it for Eunice.</p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Book, but like also organization. </p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Which isn&#8217;t the same thing as careers in AI safety research&#8212;for example, transformative AI increases the chance of a catastrophic bioweapons attack, so 80,000 Hours also recommends working in biosecurity.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>When I fact-checked this section with him, he said that he worked 55 hours a week which is, quote, &#8220;really not crazy.&#8221;</p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Delayed ejaculation and erectile dysfunction in loveshy men]]></title><description><![CDATA[My guess is that, among the men I know who lost their virginity after their mid-twenties, more than half deal with serious erectile dysfunction or delayed ejaculation.]]></description><link>https://thingofthings.substack.com/p/delayed-ejaculation-and-erectile</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://thingofthings.substack.com/p/delayed-ejaculation-and-erectile</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Ozy Brennan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2026 12:03:25 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/48aa2873-fa9c-46b5-921d-2423331209f0_4416x2944.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My guess is that, among the men I know who lost their virginity after their mid-twenties, more than half deal with serious erectile dysfunction or delayed ejaculation.</p><p>I have zero scientific evidence to back this up. I&#8217;m going off my anecdotal (but extensive) experience as a life coach, confidante to older loveshy men, and sexual partner of older loveshy men. But in my experience, among cis men who have lost their virginity in their late twenties or later, erectile dysfunction and/or delayed ejaculation are actually <em>more common than not</em>. </p><p>(Oddly, although culturally people associate loveshy men with premature ejaculation, premature ejaculation seems to be much less common in my experience.)</p><p>So I have decided to write an honest but nonshaming advice post for this demographic.</p><h1>Differential Diagnosis</h1><p>First, you should rule out medical causes. Both delayed ejaculation and premature ejaculation can be a side effect of certain medications (especially SSRIs) or a sign of various health problems. It&#8217;s wise to go to a doctor for a screening, particularly if you struggle with erectile dysfunction or delayed ejaculation while masturbating.</p><p>Second, you should check your condom sizing. People often assume that condoms are &#8220;one size fits all&#8221; because they can stretch. But a condom can fit over your penis without fitting <em>comfortably</em>. A poorly fitting condom makes sex not only less pleasurable but less safe&#8212;a condom that doesn&#8217;t fit is more likely to slip off or break. Magnum condoms aren&#8217;t just for vanity, and if you need a &#8220;slim&#8221; or &#8220;snug&#8221; condom, refusing to admit this fact does no one any good. Note that girth matters more than length&#8212;if you have an average-length but unusually thin or thick penis, you will likely need to use a smaller or larger condom. <a href="https://www.hims.com/guides/condom-size-guide">Hims has a good guide to measuring your penis and choosing your condom size.</a> People I know with oddly sized penises swear by <a href="https://onecondoms.com/pages/myone">MyONE</a>, which offers condoms in 52 sizes.</p><p>Third, you should think about whether you&#8217;re actually attracted to your partner. Many loveshy men agree to sex with people they aren&#8217;t attracted to, because they believe it&#8217;s their only chance to have sex or a romantic relationship. If you have sex with a woman you&#8217;re not attracted to, you will probably have sexual dysfunctions. This isn&#8217;t just about conventional attractiveness: if you&#8217;re having sex with a thin woman when you&#8217;re only attracted to fat women, you will also have difficulty performing. Some men are only attracted to people they&#8217;re in love with or feel comfortable or safe around. If that&#8217;s you, don&#8217;t force yourself into casual sex because it&#8217;s the only thing you think you can get.</p><p>Fourth, if you have erectile dysfunction, consider using an erectile dysfunction medication. Erectile dysfunction medication is effective and safe, and you can purchase it from an online provider without even having to have an awkward conversation with your doctor. Why bother with all this communication and journey of self-discovery stuff when you can just have Better Living Through Chemistry?</p><h1>Other Causes of Sexual Dysfunction</h1><p>Okay, so we&#8217;ve ruled out the obvious four. In my experience, and according to my reading of the sex therapy literature, you likely have one or several of the following problems.</p><p><strong>Idiosyncratic masturbation style</strong>. From my <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5001992/pdf/tau-05-04-563.pdf">reading of the literature</a> and personal experience, this is <em>the</em> most common cause of delayed ejaculation. I strongly suspect that idiosyncratic masturbation style is the reason that erectile dysfunction and delayed ejaculation are so common among men who lost their virginity late.</p><p>You have spent fifteen or twenty years (or even longer) conditioning yourself that orgasm happens in one specific way. Maybe you flip quickly between videos or watch compilations, and so see dozens of girls in a few minutes. Maybe you read erotica and get to know exactly what the woman is thinking or enjoy the payoff of a narratively dramatic plotline. Maybe you&#8217;re used to women with specific appearances (even impossible ones, like hentai girls) or to specific sex acts that are much less fun in real life (facials, double penetration). Maybe you squeeze hard and move your hand quickly and don&#8217;t use lube. Maybe you rub yourself on the bed or a pillow. Maybe you simply do the exact same touches in the exact same way every time.</p><p>And now you&#8217;re trying to get yourself to get hard and come in a completely different situation. No laptop or phone is usually present. She is a 3D woman, whom you can touch and smell and taste, not just look at. She moves in an unpredictable way. You have to care about the experiences of a different person with their own preferences. Some sex acts that are hot in porn are boring in real life; some sex acts that are boring in porn are hot as hell in real life. Vaginas, mouths, and assholes don&#8217;t feel like your hand, and even her hand will feel different from yours because she doesn&#8217;t know the exactly best way to touch you. She is likely to be less willing than you are to jerk your dick hard and fast for ages. And real-world sex has almost no satisfying narrative payoff.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a> </p><p>(&#8221;Idiosyncratic masturbation style&#8221; is sometimes called &#8220;<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death-grip_syndrome">death grip syndrome</a>&#8221; but I don&#8217;t like the term, because it limits idiosyncratic masturbation style to one specific (albeit common) situation: jerking off very fast while holding your penis very tightly. The guy who rubs himself off on the bed doesn&#8217;t have a &#8220;death grip&#8221;, but he will definitely have problems orgasming during sex.)</p><p>This is not a &#8220;porn and masturbation are evil&#8221; take. Porn and masturbation are fine. But the longer you go <em>only </em>masturbating and consuming porn, the more you condition yourself that orgasms only happen during masturbation, and the more trouble you have when you actually have sex.</p><p><strong>Having sex you don&#8217;t like</strong>. You may be having sex that doesn&#8217;t include the sex acts you tend to get off on.</p><p>This isn&#8217;t necessarily about kink! If you primarily fantasize about frottage, you might struggle with orgasming if you think frottage is weird so you don&#8217;t want to ask for it. But it is, also, sometimes about kink: if you primarily get off on nonconsent, or feederism, or crossdressing, you may have a hard time enjoying sex that doesn&#8217;t involve your kink at all.</p><p>It&#8217;s also possible that your partner likes a sex act that is a hard no for you, and you&#8217;re making yourself engage in it anyway. For example, maybe you&#8217;re <a href="https://fanlore.org/wiki/Squick">squicked</a> by dominating a woman, but are pushing past the squick because you want to make your partner happy and you&#8217;re afraid that if you say &#8220;no&#8221; to BDSM you will never get to have sex again. Similarly, you might be grossed out by giving a woman oral sex, but think that good lovers or feminists give oral, so you&#8217;re forcing yourself to give oral anyway.</p><p><strong>Anxiety/distraction</strong>. Men who are sexually inexperienced late in life tend to be anxious about sex. &#8220;Am I doing it right? Am I ugly? Can she tell how inexperienced I am? Is she having a good time? Is my dick too small? Is she judging me? Is she secretly laughing at me? Have I accidentally pressured her into sex somehow? Am I a rapist? Oh god, I am accidentally raping her <em>right this very minute</em>.&#8221;</p><p>This is not the world&#8217;s sexiest line of thought.</p><p>If you&#8217;re spending the entire time freaking out, you aren&#8217;t feeling the sensations in your body or appreciating your partner&#8217;s body or the pleasure she&#8217;s experiencing, and you are likely to lose your erection or fail to orgasm. Erection and orgasm generally require you to be present in the moment, or failing that thinking about something that&#8217;s actually hot.</p><p>Some people also experience distraction that isn&#8217;t related to anxiety. For example, they can find themselves thinking about TV shows, or making a to-do list, or trying to debug an open-source project. Sometimes distraction indicates that you&#8217;re not that interested in the sex; sometimes it indicates that you have ADHD. (If you have ADHD, taking your stimulants on days you&#8217;re going to have sex can help.)</p><p>The most dangerous kind of anxiety is...</p><p><strong>Pressure on yourself to get hard or orgasm</strong>. If you&#8217;ve struggled with erectile dysfunction or orgasm in the past, you will naturally be anxious about it in the future. &#8220;Am I going to get hard? Am I hard yet? Fuck. I&#8217;m not hard yet. Think of something sexy. No, something sexier. Is she mad at me that I can&#8217;t get hard? Does she think I&#8217;m not attracted to her? Is she disappointed? Oh, no, I&#8217;ve disappointed her. Why can&#8217;t I just get hard?&#8221; And then your penis wilts like an unwatered flower.</p><p>Unfortunately, the more you worry about not being able to get hard or come, the more difficult it will be to get hard or come. There is almost no thought that makes you less likely to orgasm than &#8220;why haven&#8217;t I orgasmed yet?&#8221; As paradoxical as it is, erection and orgasm are more likely to happen the less invested you are in them happening.</p><p><strong>Selfless sexual script</strong>. Men who lost their virginity late often have a sexual script where they kiss the woman and touch her until she&#8217;s turned on, and then they finger her until she comes, and then they eat her out until she comes, and then they fuck her until she comes, and then I guess after that they can come maybe but it is not a necessary part of the endeavor.</p><p>It is very understandable why men who lost their virginity late have a selfless sexual script. To them, sex is scarce, so they think they have to be fantastic lovers to have any chance of getting more of it. And to them being a good lover means focusing entirely on your partner&#8217;s pleasure to the exclusion of your own.</p><p>But if you have this sexual script, you will almost certainly have problems getting hard or orgasming, because there is no step in the script that includes anything that would cause you to get hard or orgasm. </p><p><strong>Sexual trauma, in a broad sense</strong>. Sexual trauma is an extremely common cause of all sexual dysfunctions. When I say &#8220;sexual trauma&#8221; here, I don&#8217;t just mean being raped, sexually harassed, or molested when you were a kid, although all of those can cause sexual trauma.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a> I want to use the word in a broad sense, to refer to all kinds of negative experiences that distort your sexuality. Growing up in Christian purity culture can be sexually traumatizing. Certain kinds of feminism can also be sexually traumatizing. Being exposed to sexuality at an early age, before you&#8217;re developmentally ready, can be sexually traumatizing. Inadequate sex education can be sexually traumatizing. Being raised by parents who are very uncomfortable with sex or who shamed you for your sexuality can be sexually traumatizing.</p><p>I particularly want to name as traumatizing the belief that male sexuality is unwanted, uncontrollable, and threatening and harmful to women; that men are continually on the verge of committing sexual violence; or that male sexuality is fundamentally alien from female sexuality, with no overlap or shared experiences. These beliefs are profoundly sexist (yes, even when feminists say them) and common in a wide range of diverse subcultures. If you are a good, kind man who wants to respect women, and you are taught these beliefs, you&#8217;re going to dissociate from your sexuality. You&#8217;ve been taught that being predatory is not a choice made by people who can choose differently, but an inherent feature of male sexuality. You don&#8217;t want to be predatory, so it feels like you shouldn&#8217;t be sexual.</p><p>Men who lost their virginity late are, I think, particularly susceptible to this belief. Men who lose their virginity at the ordinary age experience someone wanting and liking their sexuality, so they&#8217;re less likely to internalize these beliefs. But if (as far as you can tell) your sexuality has always been unwanted, it&#8217;s easy to see yourself as a disgusting monster whose desire is burdensome at best and violent at worst. And this mindset makes it difficult to enjoy sex.</p><h2>What Do I Do About It?</h2><p>The first-line treatment is to keep having sex without putting pressure on yourself to get an erection or to orgasm. Kiss and touch your partner in a non-goal-directed manner. Finger your partner or give her oral. Your partner can kiss and touch your soft penis; it turns out this isn&#8217;t forbidden by the Sex Cops. If you can maintain an erection but have trouble coming, you can receive blowjobs or handjobs and have PIV and anal sex. Just stop when you or your partner is bored, instead of when you&#8217;ve come. Don&#8217;t think of the goal of sex as orgasm; think of the goal of sex as sexual pleasure, emotional closeness, and having a good time with your partner.</p><p>You <em>must</em> explain what&#8217;s going on to your partner. (You can even send them this essay!) Many women don&#8217;t realize that delayed ejaculation and erectile dysfunction are common for men who lost their virginity late. They believe that you&#8217;re not attracted to them or that they&#8217;re bad in bed, and they can wind up pressuring you to orgasm or continuing sex when they&#8217;re not having a good time. They can accidentally make the problem worse.</p><p>The most likely cause of your sexual dysfunction is that you&#8217;re not used to having sex. If you have more sex, you&#8217;ll get more used to sexual pleasure coming from sex, and it will be easier to get hard and orgasm during sex. You just need to avoid getting trapped in anxiety, <em>especially </em>anxiety about sexual dysfunction, which will reinforce the problem. As long as you can chill out about your penis&#8217;s behavior, the problem will likely resolve over time.</p><p>[ETA: You might find, if you&#8217;re having sex without putting pressure on yourself to get an erection or orgasm, that your sex life is satisfying even though you still have erectile dysfunction or delayed ejaculation. That&#8217;s great! You don&#8217;t actually need a hard penis to have great sex, as many lesbians can attest. And delayed ejaculation has its benefits; you never need to worry about finishing too soon. But a lot of men find it limiting not to be able to do sex acts that require a hard penis, and dissatisfying not to orgasm during sex.]</p><p>What if it doesn&#8217;t resolve on its own?</p><p>If you have any sort of sexual trauma, it can help to see a sex-positive sex therapist.</p><p>If you&#8217;re having sex you find gross or unpleasant or uncomfortable, that you get through by thinking about something else, or that you don&#8217;t want, you have to stop. Men have sexual boundaries too. People who have trouble getting laid have sexual boundaries too. Yes, compromise is part of a healthy sex life. But the appropriate subject for compromise is activities you&#8217;re <em>neutral</em> on: things you wouldn&#8217;t do for their own sake, but that you appreciate because your partner likes them. Ideally, even if an activity isn&#8217;t directly pleasurable for you, it is pleasurable because of your partner&#8217;s pleasure. You should NEVER NEVER <em><strong>NEVER!!!!! </strong></em>compromise sexually by doing things that gross you out or make you feel uncomfortable. If you continue to push yourself to have sex you don&#8217;t want, eventually you will feel scared or disgusted or repulsed by sex itself. That way lies dead bedrooms and long-term sexual dissatisfaction.</p><p>(Yes, this includes disliking giving oral sex. No one, male or female, should give oral sex if it bores them or grosses them out. It is not somehow feminist to coerce men who hate giving oral into sex they don&#8217;t want. That said, if your problem is the taste, try using dental dams before you stop giving cunnilingus entirely.)</p><p>If your partner cares about you, or even is a minimally decent human being, they don&#8217;t want you to have sex that you hate or that makes you feel uncomfortable or squicked. You aren&#8217;t doing them a favor by hiding your feelings. You need to talk to your partner, explain the situation, and tell them your new limits.</p><p>If you struggle with anxiety or distraction, mindfulness can help. You don&#8217;t have to do anything sophisticated like seeking enlightenment or finding the fourth jhana. When you notice yourself getting distracted or having anxious thoughts, nonjudgmentally bring your attention back to your present-moment experience. Don&#8217;t beat yourself up; just notice that you&#8217;re distracted and gently return your awareness what&#8217;s going on in your body. It can help to practice in a nonsexual but pleasurable context, which might be less anxiety-inducing: consider mindfully taking a walk, drinking tea or coffee, eating delicious food, getting a massage, or taking a shower. It can also help to practice while masturbating; I talk a bit more about this later. </p><p>If you have sexual interests you&#8217;re not incorporating into sex, or if you have a selfless sexual script, you will need to have a conversation with your partner about making sex a more mutually satisfying activity. It can feel terrifying to have this sort of conversation, especially if you have a lot of sexual shame. But having awkward, scary conversations about sex is part of having a sexual relationship.</p><p>Often, your partner will find this conversation a relief. She guessed that something wasn&#8217;t quite right, but she couldn&#8217;t articulate the problem well enough to bring it up, or herself felt awkward and self-conscious about talking about sex. If you have a selfless sexual script, remember that your partner almost certainly wants you to enjoy sex. You wouldn&#8217;t appreciate sex with a woman who said &#8220;oh, sex is really <em>for </em>men, I don&#8217;t get anything out of it, but I don&#8217;t mind taking ten minutes to make him happy.&#8221; Your sexual partners probably feel the same way about your selfless sexual script. Denying yourself is not doing her a favor.</p><p>Your partner is unlikely to start acting out the plot of your favorite hentai. But, if you are both creative, flexible, and open-minded, it is usually possible to come up with a sex life everyone involved finds satisfying. For example, even if your partner doesn&#8217;t physically enjoy frottage, she might enjoy you kissing and caressing her at the same time. Your partner might be neutral on giving blowjobs, but happy to make you happy. Your partner might not be interested in consensual nonconsent, but she might be okay with wrestling or light bondage. Your partner might dislike you in women&#8217;s clothes, but like you in guyliner with shaved legs. You can have some nights that are primarily about you and other nights that are primarily about her, and accept that you are unlikely to orgasm during the latter.</p><p>Your partner might experiment with things you like if she&#8217;s not sure whether she likes them. Try to avoid pressuring her to like them; as best as you can, be okay with any outcome. (I realize this is difficult because people really want their partner to do sexy things with them.) Your partner will be more willing to try new things in the long run if &#8220;turns out, not my thing&#8221; is always an acceptable answer. Thank her for trying; don&#8217;t get mad at her for not liking it.</p><p>Again, remember that you and your partner should NEVER NEVER <em><strong>NEVER!!!!! </strong></em>compromise sexually by doing things that gross you out or make you uncomfortable. But usually there&#8217;s some amount of overlap where you will get some (if not all) of what you want and your partner will be at least neutral about the activities.</p><p>You might have kinks that are physically impossible in real life, like mind control, macro/micro, breast expansion, or transformation. Sometimes it&#8217;s possible to roleplay these kinks in a reasonably convincing fashion: for example, maybe your partner is immediately post-transformation. Sometimes your partner is willing to incorporate dirty talk about those kinks into sex. Sometimes, neither works. In that case, you&#8217;ll have to decide whether you prefer to close your eyes and fantasize intensely until you come, or to stay present in the sex without orgasming. Either is fine. It just depends on your preferences.</p><p>Finally, if you have an idiosyncratic masturbation style (you almost certainly have an idiosyncratic masturbation style), you will need to alter your style of masturbation.</p><p>Masturbate with a slower and more gentle touch and a lot of lube. Vary the way you touch yourself: try different rhythms and touching different parts of your penis. Avoid sensations that are difficult to replicate during sex, such as rubbing against an object. Try to make yourself feel the same way you feel during PIV, blowjobs, or handjobs. Some sex toys, such as the <a href="https://usstore.tenga.co/">Tenga</a> line, more closely simulate a vagina than your hand does; if you&#8217;ve never used a male masturbation toy, you may want to try one. On the other hand, if you use a male masturbation toy every time you orgasm, you may want to retire it for a while.</p><p>At a minimum, avoid porn and erotica that you can&#8217;t replicate during sex (sexual situations that aren&#8217;t possible in real life, fetishes your partner is completely uninterested in, anything that involves switching rapidly between many different women, exaggerated hentai girls).<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a> You may want to exclusively masturbate to sexual material produced by your partner (your partner&#8217;s nudes, sexting with your partner, etc.). You may want to avoid porn and erotica entirely.</p><p>You may want to limit fantasizing as well: fantasize only about sex you could reasonably have in real life, fantasize only about your partner, fantasize only about sex you had in the past, etc. Some men find it helpful to practice mindful masturbation, where instead of fantasizing they focus on the physical sensations and the pleasure of touching themselves. Practicing mindful masturbation can help you practice being present during sex. Give it a shot and see if it&#8217;s for you.</p><p>If it takes you a long time to orgasm (i.e. longer than your sexual partner would be willing to keep going), stop for the night and masturbate again tomorrow.</p><p>This process will likely sexually frustrate you! That&#8217;s okay. As you build up sexual desire, you have a lower threshold for erections and orgasm. Eventually, you&#8217;ll be so horny you&#8217;ll be able to orgasm from sex, even though it isn&#8217;t remotely like what you&#8217;ve conditioned yourself to associate with orgasm. Once you&#8217;ve started conditioning yourself to orgasm from sex, you&#8217;ll be able to orgasm during sex without being so horny the rest of the time that you can&#8217;t focus on work.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a></p><p>Some people find it helpful to take a break from masturbation entirely for a month or two. Instead, they only have orgasms if they can orgasm during sex. By making themselves hornier, they make it easier to come during sex. Other people find that entirely taking a break from masturbation makes them obsess over whether they will come during sex, which distracts them and paradoxically makes it harder to come during sex. Experiment to see what works for you.</p><p>Once you are getting hard and orgasming regularly during sex, you can gradually reintroduce elements of your old masturbation style. If your sexual dysfunctions come back, just stop doing whatever seems to be causing the problem. You will likely have to make some permanent changes in your masturbation habits. While you probably won&#8217;t have to give up your favorite way of masturbation forever, it will become only one part of a broader and more varied masturbation life.</p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Sad fujo noises.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>And, yes, men can be raped. By women, even!</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Obviously, if you have an obligate fetish that is impossible in real life or that your partner doesn&#8217;t like, you may want to adjust these rules. But I think, if you can get off to porn that would be reasonably possible for you to do in real life, you should&#8212;at least temporarily. </p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Maybe don&#8217;t begin this process when you&#8217;re about to do any really finicky brain surgeries.</p><p></p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Quaker Peace Testimony]]></title><description><![CDATA[[content note: frank discussion of war and war crimes]]]></description><link>https://thingofthings.substack.com/p/quaker-peace-testimony</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://thingofthings.substack.com/p/quaker-peace-testimony</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Ozy Brennan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2026 15:02:12 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ICdh!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3d2c7298-26fe-4ce9-a9c7-70844f6c824f_3400x3487.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[content note: frank discussion of war and war crimes] </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ICdh!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3d2c7298-26fe-4ce9-a9c7-70844f6c824f_3400x3487.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ICdh!, /__u/thingofthings.substack.com/w_424, /__u/thingofthings.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/thingofthings.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/thingofthings.substack.com/q_auto:good, 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4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p></p><p>I.</p><p>I am both very good and very bad at the Quaker Peace Testimony.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a></p><p>I am very good at the Quaker Peace Testimony, in that I am naturally friendly and amiable, I have such a bad memory that every time I try to hold a grudge I forget, and I have so little aggressive instinct that whenever my boyfriend tries to wrestle me I let him pin me and then he says &#8220;why did you let me win?&#8221; and I say &#8220;you... seemed to want it very badly?&#8221;</p><p>I am very bad at the Quaker Peace Testimony, because I keep forgetting I&#8217;m a pacifist. I get part of the way through a conversation about Taiwan or Ukraine, and then I say &#8220;...wait, I&#8217;m not supposed to think the United States should fight wars under some circumstances, because I&#8217;m a pacifist. Uh. War is bad. I think we should stop doing war.&#8221;</p><p>For some reason, people tend to consider this bad behavior in arguments about foreign policy. I suspect several people of wanting to violate the Testimony of Peace about me specifically.</p><p>One of my best friends works for the Department of War. If I had a friend who was working for a tobacco company or sports gambling startup, I would argue with her and try to impress on her the evils of her actions. And I just <em>wouldn&#8217;t </em>have a friend who works for Tyson Foods, because I would break into tears whenever I thought about what she did all day at work. But I have never told my friend to quit his job and become a... I don&#8217;t even know. Some kind of non-war AI policy person.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a> </p><p>Unlike some other religious pacifists, Quakers believe it&#8217;s acceptable to use violence to defend yourself or others against an imminent threat. Your violence should be limited and proportionate, aimed at ending the altercation with the minimum harm to the attacker, but fundamentally you&#8217;re allowed to punch someone who&#8217;s trying to kill you.</p><p>And Quakers accept that a modern society needs police officers. My great-grandfather was a police officer who bragged that he strapped his gun to his hip every morning but had never drawn it on a human being. Although he was a good Irish Catholic and wouldn&#8217;t like to hear me say so, I think that in this way my great-grandfather was Quakerly. From a Quaker perspective, police officers should train in deescalation and nonviolent conflict resolution so that they rarely have to draw a gun, but when necessary they shouldn&#8217;t hesitate to use violence to keep everyone safe.</p><p>Some part of me says: okay, but the same logic should apply to war. Sometimes someone invades your country with intent to kill you and your fellow citizens. Sometimes someone tries to throw everyone of your race or religion or political affiliation into death camps. Sometimes someone does a coup against the democratically elected government, tortures dissidents, and causes famines through their economic mismanagement. When, with Nick Decker, I ask &#8220;<a href="/__u/nicholasdecker.substack.com/p/when-must-we-kill-them">When Must We Kill Them?</a>&#8221;, I&#8217;m not sure the answer is &#8220;never.&#8221;</p><p>And&#8212;sometimes they&#8217;re not doing it against <em>you</em>. They&#8217;re doing it against the Jews in Nazi Germany, or the Uyghurs in China, or people with glasses in Cambodia. I&#8217;m not saying we must invade every time someone commits a genocide, just as a police officer might use her professional judgment to decide to nonviolently deescalate a situation instead of coming out guns blazing. But I can&#8217;t bring myself to oppose the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambodian%E2%80%93Vietnamese_War">Vietnamese invasion of Cambodia</a>. Pol Pot committed two separate genocides and neither of them is on the top five list of the worst things he did! And then Vietnam invaded and the killing <em>stopped</em> and&#8212;I am a terrible pacifist, but I can&#8217;t make myself say that the Vietnamese should have left the Cambodian people to die so that their hands would be pure. </p><p>The Quakers have, notably, only run a country <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_of_Pennsylvania">that one time</a>. It&#8217;s true that Pennsylvania didn&#8217;t fight any wars, but it also got to borrow the British army whenever the subject came up. Without the king&#8217;s patronage, Pennsylvania would no doubt have been invaded by marauding Puritans bent on forcing all Quakers to adhere to their view of Christianity. And indeed the Quakers eventually lost control of Pennsylvania when they could no longer have a peaceful relationship with local Native Americans. Ultimately, Quaker pacifism has never been tested against reality.</p><p>And yet I do think there is something valuable in the Peace Testimony.</p><p>II.</p><p>I wrote in <a href="/__u/thingofthings.substack.com/p/facts-i-learned-from-maoism-a-global-fd4">a post about Maoism</a>:</p><blockquote><p>As I read Maoism: A Global History, I came to the conclusion that Maoism is a cognitohazard. Like, a straight-up, SCP-Foundation-style cognitohazard. If you think about Maoism too hard, you turn evil.</p><p>All the Maoist leaders are evil. I understand this; it&#8217;s an evil ideology. It is true that, early in the history of the People&#8217;s Republic of China, innumerable idealistic young Communists went around China teaching people to boil water and not to bind their daughters&#8217; feet. But most of them were then purged and perhaps tortured or killed in one anti-rightist campaign or another, so I feel this is compatible with my diagnosis of Maoism-Induced Evil Syndrome.</p><p>What baffles me is why, all around the world, over a century of history, with ideologies ranging from boring liberal democracy to outright fascism, everyone who <em>fought</em> the Maoists is <em>also</em> evil. My notes on Maoism: A Global History contain phrases like &#8220;standard anti-Maoist torture/rape/war crimes/concentration camps.&#8221; From Chiang Kai-shek (the Number Three But We Try Harder of early twentieth century Chinese atrocities) to the mining companies brutally repressing the Adivasis today, a demon whispers in the ear of every anti-Maoist campaigner:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ivhP!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F40b25974-3299-41df-8516-b68a1cc881d1_749x748.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="/__u/substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ivhP!, /__u/thingofthings.substack.com/w_424, /__u/thingofthings.substack.com/c_limit, /__u/thingofthings.substack.com/f_webp, /__u/thingofthings.substack.com/q_auto:good, 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y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>You&#8217;re in the clear as long as you vaguely think that Maoism is probably bad. Taking any specific actions about your belief that Maoism is bad is high-risk for turning evil. Once you&#8217;re assigned to the China bureau, it&#8217;s too late.</p></blockquote><p>I don&#8217;t think Maoism being a cognitohazard is a weird historical coincidence but rather a deep truth.</p><p>Why does opposition to Maoism turn you evil? Why did Chiang Kai-shek massacre Communists? <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MKUltra">Why did the United States torture its own citizens in a failed attempt to reverse-engineer Chinese brainwashing that wasn&#8217;t real</a>? Why did the Peruvian government execute peasants for speaking Quechua? Why did Suharto&#8217;s supporters butcher alleged Communists and drink their blood?</p><p>The second most justified war in world history<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a> is World War II. The Nazis killed <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victims_of_Nazi_Germany">six million Jews and as many as seven million other civilians</a>. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_war_crimes#War_crimes">While exact numbers are uncertain, the Imperial Japanese may have actually beat the Nazis&#8217; record.</a> These are some of the worst governments in human history. If there&#8217;s any situation in which a good Quaker can countenance war, it&#8217;s this one.</p><p>The Allies bombed Dresden. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden">An estimated 25,000 people died, nearly all civilians</a>. Although Dresden is the most famous case&#8212;because its status as a military target was at best dubious&#8212;it wasn&#8217;t an isolated incident. Allied area bombing strategies deliberately targeted civilians (as did the Germans, to be sure).</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengal_famine_of_1943">The Bengali famine of 1943 killed between 800,000 and 3.8 million people</a>. Although it&#8217;s controversial exactly what the British government could have known and should have done, as far as I know it&#8217;s undisputed that the famine was significantly worsened by British policies intended to maintain a stable food supply for soldiers. </p><p>And, of course, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_bombings_of_Hiroshima_and_Nagasaki">the United States dropped the atomic bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki</a>, killing between 150,000 and 250,000 people, the vast majority of whom were civilians.</p><p>How just, how heroic, how splendid war is!</p><p>We have a tendency to think of just war as the normal case, and war crimes as a bizarre aberration done by monsters. In reality, the natural state of any army is to commit war crimes. Until the formation of the modern laws of war in the late nineteenth century, <em>every</em> army on <em>every </em>side of <em>every</em> war committed what we would think of as war crimes. <a href="https://lieber.westpoint.edu/sack-cities-laws-war-evolving-attitudes-historical-perspective/">As merely one example, in Europe up until the Napoleonic Wars, the socially accepted reward for taking a city was being able to steal whatever and rape and murder whoever you wanted.</a> Today, after a great deal of moral progress and expansion of state capacity, we can produce armies that occasionally <em>don&#8217;t </em>commit war crimes. This is a fragile state, the product of a lot of good people doing an unimaginable amount of good work, and we should be grateful for it. </p><p>(although modern war crimes law still allows you to kill civilians if it&#8217;s proportionate to the military necessity)</p><p>Back when I used X, I saw <em>multiple</em> people on my X timeline&#8212;good people, people I like&#8212;explain that it&#8217;s okay for Israeli bombers to kill children, because if you don&#8217;t kill the families of Hamas fighters then Hamas will use them as human shields.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a> I don&#8217;t have an object-level position on what stance on murdering the children of Hamas fighters minimizes the number of children murdered. It is possible that this logic is in fact <em>correct</em>.</p><p>But what I can&#8217;t imagine is typing that sentence and not finishing it with &#8220;which is why I&#8217;m a pacifist.&#8221;</p><p>I have an odd mental quirk, which is that whenever I read about large numbers of children dying, I involuntarily imagine it happening to my son Vasili. This is why I am so upset about <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President&#8217;s_Emergency_Plan_for_AIDS_Relief">cuts to PEPFAR</a> and other crucial aid programs. I imagine that my son has HIV, and he was stabilized on antiretrovirals and was going to live to be an adult, and then suddenly the US government stopped providing funding for PEPFAR because Elon Musk read a Tweet about woke DEI operas, and now I have to bury my child in a four-foot coffin. </p><p>And so when I read a sentence like <em>five children died in the bombing</em>, what I imagine is staring at my son&#8217;s corpse in the wreckage.</p><p>People who post about how it&#8217;s okay for bombings to kill children feel very clear-eyed, very realistic. They can think about The Harsh Truths. They can accept The Nature of War.</p><p>But <em>I </em>am being clear-eyed and realistic, because the harsh truth, the nature of war, is that every Palestinian child who dies in a bombing is my son Vasili, and every Israeli child who dies in a terrorist attack is my son Vasili, and every child who died in the Holocaust or the rape of Nanking or Hiroshima or Dresden is my son Vasili, and Peruvian government soldiers raped my son Vasili, and my son Vasili ate dirt during the Great Leap Forward to try to keep his belly full, and the Red Guards slowly tortured my son Vasili to death because I&#8217;m a rightist, and Suharto&#8217;s soldiers skewered my son Vasili on their machetes because they heard somewhere I&#8217;m a Communist. </p><p>If generals and politicians and ordinary soldiers understood that the enemy&#8217;s children are as loved by their parents as their own children, play the way their own children play, misbehave the way their own children misbehave, in the modern era thanks to globalization probably <em>collect Pokemon cards</em> and <em>watch Moana</em> and <em>read Dog-Man </em>the same way their own children do&#8212;</p><p>Well. You&#8217;d never be able to fight a war, that way.</p><p>(<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUeBMwn_eYc">&#8221;War is war, and Hell is Hell. And of the two, war is a lot worse... There are no innocent bystanders in Hell. War is chock full of them - little kids, cripples, old ladies. In fact, except for some of the brass, almost everybody involved is an innocent bystander.&#8221;</a>)</p><p>So at best, you reduce the enemy to numbers, resources and victory points in the world&#8217;s grandest board game. At worst, the enemy becomes orcs: Always Chaotic Evil monsters, with no loves or joys or feelings we ought to take into account, mooks whom heroes can slaughter endlessly and afterward throw a party because they made the world a better place.</p><p>War is a machine that makes people evil, and this is why. To fight a war, you have to lie to yourself. And if you are lying to yourself about orphaned children and mothers who bury their sons and the accidental slaughter of innocents, your natural tendency will be to lie to yourself about rape and torture and area bombing of civilians. You can&#8217;t clearly count the costs of your choices, because at best you have blinded yourself to evil, and at worst you have taught yourself to call evil good.</p><p>Sometimes you have to turn on the machine that makes people evil. Sometimes the machine is the only way to stop the Nazis. I don&#8217;t know that I can bring myself to be the kind of pacifist who says that there&#8217;s always a nonviolent solution.</p><p>But I want people to understand what turning the machine on means. I want them to understand that the machine isn&#8217;t brave and heroic and glorious, that it doesn&#8217;t turn boys into men. I write <em>when children die in war, they are like your children</em>&#8212;and I&#8217;m old enough that even an eighteen-year-old seems like a child to me&#8212;and I know people reading this are going to think it&#8217;s soft-hearted and sentimental and weak, that I&#8217;m being emotionally manipulative, that I&#8217;m tugging at your heartstrings rather than having a serious adult conversation about spheres of influence and realpolitik in a comfortable conference room that has been soundproofed so you can&#8217;t hear the screams. </p><p>But all I can say is that I&#8217;m telling the truth.</p><blockquote><p><em>If in some smothering dreams, you too could pace<br>Behind the wagon that we flung him in,<br>And watch the white eyes writhing in his face,<br>His hanging face, like a devil&#8217;s sick of sin;<br>If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood<br>Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs,<br>Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud<br>Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,&#8212;<br>My friend, you would not tell with such high zest<br>To children ardent for some desperate glory,<br>The old Lie: </em>Dulce et decorum est<br>Pro patria mori.</p></blockquote><p>III.</p><p>I wrote about war. But the Testimony of Peace isn&#8217;t just about war. </p><p>It is also about: Police brutality. The torture and imprisonment of dissidents. Terrorism. Assassinations. Genocide. Forced restraint and medication of neurodivergent people. Corporal punishment of children. Spousal abuse. Rape. Drug gangs. Racist violence. Acid attacks. <a href="/__u/thingofthings.substack.com/p/i-was-a-juror-on-a-murder-trial">Stupid impulsive murders</a>. Riots. Coups. Slavery. Torture. Organized crime. Bioweapons research. Nuclear proliferation. Running reckless risks with AI because what if The Enemy gets it first. Hundreds of other atrocities I don&#8217;t have space to name. Hundreds of other atrocities I haven&#8217;t even <em>heard </em>of. </p><p>I don&#8217;t have it in me to write and edit a section for every piece of horrific violence humans are doing to each other. But that doesn&#8217;t mean that any of the violence I left out is less real or less important than war. The scale and extent of violence on this planet staggers me. (The scale and extent of <em>suffering </em>on this planet staggers me.)</p><p>Every single victim of violence is a person like you or like your friends or like your children. Every one of them matters as much as you do. Every one of them was once a baby, and someone held them and felt like their heart was walking around outside their body,<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a> and&#8212;that&#8217;s the truth, the story where they&#8217;re a number or an acceptable sacrifice is a lie, and&#8212;I don&#8217;t know what it would be like to live in the world and not lie to yourself about it, I don&#8217;t think I could bear it, but the truth is the truth whether or not I can bear it&#8212;</p><p>(I guess if I&#8217;m a Quaker I&#8217;m supposed to believe at least one guy did bear the truth, and we hung Him on a cross about it)</p><p>IV.</p><p>One of the earliest formulations of the Peace Testimony was George Fox&#8217;s famous statement that he &#8220;lived in the virtue of that life and power that took away the occasion of all wars.&#8221; That is, George Fox not only didn&#8217;t personally fight in wars; he tried to live a life that would make war unnecessary. </p><p>My country hasn&#8217;t drafted anyone in over fifty years, and regardless as a person assigned female at birth I wouldn&#8217;t be called up. I vote for candidates that oppose war, as I vote for candidates that oppose factory farming and support global health aid. As an upper middle class white person, first read as female and then as a queer man, I have never been expected to prove my masculinity through violence. The option to get in a serious, violent fight has simply never been presented to me. </p><p>This does raise some questions about what it means to live out the Peace Testimony. Does it mean anything at all to live peacefully if I&#8217;ve never had the opportunity to choose violence? What does it mean for me, in my social context, to live in the virtue of that life and power that takes away the occasion of all wars?</p><p>Well, why do people fight wars?</p><p>In the modern era, we typically at least gesture at the idea that war is supposed to right some sort of injustice and leave even the other side better off. We want to free women and queer people from Islamic fundamentalism, or protect Southeast Asia from Communist famines and persecutions, or overthrow the aristocrats who eat caviar off silver plates while the peasants starve, or beat the Nazis. However, while this may be a controversial statement, I don&#8217;t think we should try to get rid of the impulse to help people, even faraway people that we&#8217;ve never met. So I&#8217;m going to set this to one side.</p><p>Why<em> else </em>do people fight wars? And why else do people become Nazis and Maoists and aristocrats and Islamic fundamentalists in the first place, thus necessitating other people trying to beat them?</p><p>Anger. The desire for revenge. Injured pride. A sense of honor. The thirst for glory. The lust for power. Liking to have nice things and not liking to think about how exactly the nice things got there. Wanting to be better and higher-status than other people. Hatred. Dehumanization of the enemy; the desire for the enemy to suffer. Bitterness. Xenophobia, racism, and aversion to the Other. Fear that if you don&#8217;t hurt them first they&#8217;re going to hurt you.</p><p>I have very little desire to do violence to anyone. But I do, often, practice the habits of mind that make people want to fight wars. I do it whenever I assume that voting for Trump means someone is a conspiracy theorist, anti-science, an authoritarian bootlicker, indifferent to the suffering of the global poor, or generally opposed to everything I think is good. I do it whenever I hear about political violence and my first response is &#8220;you shouldn&#8217;t try to assassinate people, but you have to admit they kind of deserved it...&#8221; I do it when I&#8217;m scared that someone might hurt me, so I try to get my friends to dislike them or stop hanging out with them, even if they haven&#8217;t actually done anything wrong. I do it when someone apologizes to me or turns out to have a sympathetic explanation for their behavior, and then I don&#8217;t want to forgive them because I was enjoying being mad. I do it whenever I fantasize about a person who hurt me experiencing the same pain I did, so that they would understand.  I do it when I reflexively judge people as inferior because they&#8217;re different from me.</p><p>And at the same time I do&#8212;in my faltering way&#8212;attempt to live in the virtue of that life and power that takes away the occasion of all wars. I do it when I look for sympathetic explanations of the behavior of people I&#8217;m mad at. I do it when <a href="/__u/thingofthings.substack.com/p/disagreeing-charitably-with-others">I try to understand the viewpoints of people I disagree with from their own perspective</a>. I do it when I&#8217;m tolerant of life choices that seem incomprehensible to me. I do it when I take responsibility for what I&#8217;ve done wrong and try to make amends. I do it when I sincerely hope for nothing but good for people who have wronged me (even as I take steps to keep them from hurting other people). I do it when I try to mediate between people who are fighting, or calm down angry people, or point out when my friends are being unfair to people they don&#8217;t like. I do it when I <a href="https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/">write my yearly donations checks</a>. </p><p>The Quaker insight, I think, is that the broadest societal forms of violence mirror the smallest interpersonal forms of violence. War is the same as political polarization is the same as the AI race is the same as social media cancel mobs is the same as gang violence is the same as abusive relationships. China and the United States are the Crips and the Bloods with nuclear weapons; a husband who beats his wife is a human-rights-violating government writ small. Of course a pacifist activist can hit her wife, or a woman can come home from a day of bombing refugees without raising a hand to her wife or kids. But the underlying impulses are similar.</p><p>Fortunately, we can endure some amount of the occasion of violence without violence itself. Severe political polarization doesn&#8217;t always result in political violence like assassinations; an attitude of anger and bitterness and entitlement towards your partner doesn&#8217;t always result in physical abuse. I can dehumanize people as much as I like without stabbing them, because my life has little opportunity for violence. Peace doesn&#8217;t require us to all be saints.</p><p>But, ultimately, a country goes to war because millions of individual people chose fear or anger or dehumanization over love and forgiveness and tolerance, or because millions of individual people decided war was honorable and noble and glorious, or because millions of individual people chose to maintain a system so unjust that millions of other individual people saw no way to right it but violence. To build lasting peace, we need to create a culture that valorizes peace as much as historical cultures valorize war, and the work begins inside each person&#8217;s heart.</p><p>V.</p><p>To be sure, &#8220;everyone should just cultivate personal virtue&#8221; is not a solution to the problem of war. Everyone is not going to just. <a href="https://squareallworthy.tumblr.com/post/163790039847/everyone-will-not-just">At no time in the history of the universe has everyone just, and they&#8217;re not going to start now.</a> To solve these problems, we need to shift institutions and social norms.</p><p>But social norms and institutions are made of people, and can be changed by people.</p><p>Of course, institutions are very important. <a href="https://www.economicstrategygroup.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/Doleac_Executive_Summary.pdf">High-quality policing prevents violence, as does swift, certain, and fair punishment of violence</a>. If people don&#8217;t have adequate tools to resolve conflicts nonviolently, they will resolve conflicts violently. Developing institutions that prevent violence is important work. But I&#8217;m most interested in the creation of social norms.</p><p>In <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Honor-Code-Moral-Revolutions-Happen/dp/039334052X">The Honor Code: How Moral Revolutions Happen</a>, Kwame Anthony Appiah writes about dueling&#8212;the social norm that elite men ought to respond to certain kinds of insults through ritualized murder attempts.</p><div id="youtube2-uq4A7iqjBRk" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;uq4A7iqjBRk&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/uq4A7iqjBRk?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p>Through most of the time it was practiced, dueling was illegal and considered sinful by religious authorities. But the laws were never enforced (it is difficult to enforce a law against something the lawmakers think you ought to do) and few men were willing to behave in a shameful and unmanly way for no other reason than that the omnipotent, omniscient Creator of the Universe demanded it. And even many men who dueled remarked that duels were stupid. People will do stupid things to preserve their honor.</p><p>Appiah persuasively argues that what ended dueling culture is that, rather than believing that refusing a duel showed you were cowardly and dishonorable and effeminate, people came to believe that <em>dueling</em> showed you were reckless and easily angered and, frankly, cringe. The change that ended dueling was a change in values&#8212;downstream of, for example, newspapers, which allowed the common people to more easily express their &#8220;duels are dumb and immature&#8221; takes.</p><p>Similarly, the American civil rights movement is one of the great successes of nonviolence. True, racism persists in America today, but &#8220;America is still racist! The civil rights movement wasn&#8217;t that important&#8221; is something you can only believe if you have no understanding of the scale of mid-twentieth-century American racism. It continues to be both legal and uncontroversial that white people and black people use the same water fountains and swimming pools and sit in the same parts of the bus. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recy_Taylor">If a black woman were gang-raped by men who confessed to the rape to police, the perpetrators would at least be indicted, and her house wouldn&#8217;t be firebombed for daring to report the rape</a>.</p><p>The nonviolent direct action of the American civil rights movement challenged norms. It drew attention to socially acceptable racist violence and asked: would you rather be on the side of the people who think black people and white people should be allowed to use the same parks, or <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birmingham_campaign#Conflict_escalation">on the side of the people attacking children with fire hoses and dogs</a>? The shift in laws came from a shift in social norms. People&#8212;not all people, but enough people&#8212;decided that racist terrorism and state-sponsored, explicitly racist violence were unacceptable.</p><p>Not personally doing violence is only a small part of the Testimony of Peace. Far more important for most of my readers is <em>creating norms of opposition to violence</em>. You may not be called to do norm-shifting activism like the civil rights movement. But everyone can practice basic opposition to violence. Here are some examples that have come up in my own life:</p><ul><li><p>If someone tries to justify political assassination or talk about how cool or hot an assassin is, I try to say &#8220;that&#8217;s not okay. It&#8217;s never acceptable to kill people for disagreeing with you.&#8221;</p></li><li><p>If someone tries to talk about war as glorious or heroic, I talk about how war crimes are the natural state of war, every death in war is a tragedy, and there is nothing honorable about killing people.</p><ul><li><p>I try to remember I&#8217;m a pacifist eventually. </p></li></ul></li><li><p>I try not to criticize people for having more empathy or sympathy for someone or some group than I do; I <em>do</em> criticize people for criticizing others for having empathy and sympathy.</p></li><li><p>When I notice someone being unfairly criticized, especially behind their backs, I try to speak up in their defense.</p></li><li><p>I encourage my friends to be tolerant of others, to resolve their conflicts proactively, and to seek good things for everyone.</p></li><li><p>I try to step in to make conversations about AI more good-faith, more respectful, more truth-seeking, less heated, and generally more likely to result in my friends and acquaintances cooperating with each other for the greater good rather than driving humanity extinct in an AI race. </p><ul><li><p>Or at least not to make the problem worse myself.</p></li><li><p>Or at least to apologize when I make the problem worse myself.  </p></li></ul></li><li><p>I encourage my friend who works for the Department of War to hold to his values about war crimes and to save money so that if necessary he can afford to be a whistleblower.</p></li><li><p>Most of all, I strive to model peace through my own behavior.</p></li></ul><p>I am still, to be clear, a pretty crappy pacifist.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-6" href="#footnote-6" target="_self">6</a> And I don&#8217;t think this kind of internal work work is the highest-value work for peace&#8212;my ability to influence people who are willing or able to do violence is extremely indirect. But my behavior is what I have control over. I can&#8217;t make anyone else live in the virtue of that life and power that takes away the occasion of all wars, but I can always try my best to do so myself.</p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>For reasons, the Quaker moral teachings are called &#8220;testimonies.&#8221;</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I have friends who work on AI capabilities, and I feel the same discomfort.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>The first is the Vietnamese invasion of Cambodia. </p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I am not mentioning defenses of Hamas purely because I have yet to encounter anyone I like defending Hamas killing civilians, and not because Hamas is known for their sterling adherence to international war crimes law.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-5" href="#footnote-anchor-5" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">5</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>or if they didn&#8217;t that is actually worse</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-6" href="#footnote-anchor-6" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">6</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>The AI thing is the highest-stakes Testimony of Peace work I do, and relatedly I would give myself a B-. </p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Ozy at Conventions!]]></title><description><![CDATA[In addition to LessOnline and Summer Camp, I will be attending Manifest!]]></description><link>https://thingofthings.substack.com/p/ozy-at-conventions</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://thingofthings.substack.com/p/ozy-at-conventions</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Ozy Brennan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2026 12:02:49 GMT</pubDate><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In addition to <a href="https://less.online/">LessOnline and Summer Camp</a>, I will be attending <a href="https://manifest.is/2026">Manifest</a>!</p><p>I have never attended Manifest before, so I don&#8217;t know whether it&#8217;s good or not. However, I am reliably informed that, in spite of it being &#8220;a prediction market conference,&#8221; you can do lots of stuff there that has nothing to do with prediction markets, such as talking about AI, or finding me who is hiding in a corner dodging conversations about AI and prediction markets.</p><p>I will probably do some kind of talk or panel or something at both Manifest and LessOnline, as well as participating in <a href="https://conclave1492.com/">Conclave 1492</a> at Summer Camp. You can also just come up to me and say hi! I will be the androgynous one with bright green hair. I am very friendly and I like almost everyone, so please don&#8217;t be scared at all about introducing yourself. I will be delighted to meet you! Please tell me all about your interests, unless your interests happen to be AI or prediction markets, in which case you should tell me all about someone else&#8217;s interests instead.</p><p>I will also be attending <a href="https://www.lacon.org/">Los Angeles WorldCon</a> in August, although I will almost certainly not be doing any sort of talk or panel, as LA WorldCon has worst taste than LessOnline and Manifest. If you&#8217;re cool enough to read Thing of Things and also attend WorldCon, I definitely want to meet you-- email me at ozybrennan@gmail.com so we can arrange a meetup. (Don&#8217;t just approach someone with bright green hair on the grounds that they must be me. I think WorldCon has more green-haired people than either LessOnline or Manifest.)</p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[He's Just Not That Into You: Arguably, A Book Review]]></title><description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve heard that the only thing anyone remembers about popular nonfiction is the title.]]></description><link>https://thingofthings.substack.com/p/hes-just-not-that-into-you-arguably</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://thingofthings.substack.com/p/hes-just-not-that-into-you-arguably</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Ozy Brennan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2026 12:02:45 GMT</pubDate><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve heard that the only thing anyone remembers about popular nonfiction is the title. If that&#8217;s true, He&#8217;s Just Not That Into You is one of the greats, right up there with If Anyone Builds It Everyone Dies.</p><p>Unfortunately, the book itself gives a lot of bad advice. It discourages women from asking men out. It says that a man who is That Into You will want to have sex with you, even though a lot of men are asexual or gray-asexual, have moral reasons to not want to have sex right away, or simply take a while to get comfortable with new people. And it tries to fit a bunch of unrelated points into its thesis. A man can in fact be That Into You and be an alcoholic. Alcoholics are bad to date for other reasons!</p><p>I also don&#8217;t like the gender. Men and nonbinary people also often need to hear the advice that He/She/They Is/Are Just Not That Into You.</p><p>The principle of He&#8217;s Just Not That Into You(&#8217;s title) is that <strong>people who like you act like they like you</strong>.</p><p>More specifically:</p><ul><li><p>People who want to spend time with you will arrange to spend time with you.</p></li><li><p>People who want you to be happy will put some effort into making you happy. They won&#8217;t do <em>everything</em> you want <em>all the time</em>, but you can point to some things they do and go &#8220;there! That thing! That&#8217;s because they want to make me happy.&#8221;</p></li><li><p>People who like you will say nice things about you.</p></li><li><p>People who want to be in a committed relationship with you will agree to commitment.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a></p></li><li><p>If you have clearly communicated to someone that you want them to do something, and they keep not doing it, you should at least consider the hypothesis that they don&#8217;t want to.</p></li></ul><h1>Figuring Out If Someone Is That Into You</h1><p>If you really really really want to date someone, and they keep leaving you on read or calling you at 11 pm for casual sex or draaaaaaagging their feet about proposing, you might be inclined to blame this behavior on their depression or busy job or attachment style. However, the most likely explanation is that they don&#8217;t want to date you as much as you want to date them.</p><p>Now, people will say to me &#8220;Ozy, you don&#8217;t understand, she&#8217;s just a bad texter.&#8221; &#8220;Ozy, you don&#8217;t understand, she&#8217;s so busy.&#8221; &#8220;Ozy, you don&#8217;t understand, she&#8217;s depressed and she has executive function problems.&#8221; &#8220;Ozy, you don&#8217;t understand, she might be mean to me all the time but I know she loves me deep down.&#8221; &#8220;Ozy, you don&#8217;t understand, her mom was horrible and left her with a paralyzing fear of commitment.&#8221;</p>
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